Ducking And Covering With Line Of Fire

Clip 00:01 Whoever this killer is, one of you was their goal. We need to keep this out of the public eye You need to continue business as usual. Dave 00:16 This is the Extra Hot Grey Podcast, episode 633 for the week of September 21st, 2026. I am Grumpy Near Retiree David T. Cole, and I'm here with pending security clearance, Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 00:34 Forget you, Dad. Dave 00:35 Madam Marshall Tar Ariana. Tara 00:37 Please call me Her Majesty. Dave 00:39 And covert affair, Santiago Mille-Huber. Santiago 00:43 ACAB includes Secret Service fuck boys. Tara 00:50 Welcome to Extra Hot Great for another week joining us here. He's a drag queen in San Francisco. He tried to make us watch Dimension 20 for a canon pitch, and now that we've inducted Game Changer, he might try again, but not today. It's Santiago Mille-Huber. Welcome back. Sarah 01:07 Santiago Dave 01:08 The sword of Damocles hangs over us all. Santiago 01:11 Surprise, bitch. I bet you thought you'd seen the last of me. Tara 01:15 I just wanna say Santiago and I were tr texting yesterday and he brought up dimension twenty Dave 01:20 Yeah. Tara 01:21 and I was like, mm-hmm, because I'd already written that intro. Oh, but Santiago 01:26 Uh, I had a sneaking suspicion that you would. Dave 01:29 The ghosts of the past are coming back to haunt us. Tara 01:32 But not today. Dave 01:33 Yeah. Tara 01:33 Today we are here to talk about line of fire. Every member of the Hollingsworth family has devoted themselves to national security. Father Mike, Peter Krause, and excuse me, Peter Krause Dave 01:45 Thank you. Tara 01:46 and son Micah, Tommy O'Brien, are Secret Service agents. Mother Jane, Hope Davis, is high up in the U. S. Marshals Service Daughter Claire, Kat Cunning, is an FBI agent. Sun Russ, Taylor Bloom, just started at the DOJ.what must their dinner table conversations be like, well they'd have to have dinner together to know that's dialogue direct from the pilot. Nearly everyone has a reason to be annoyed by someone else in the family, but when Jane and Claire's latest case turns out to have implications for all the Hollingsworths, can they pull together to protect themselves and each other. The show was created by Joshua Saffron, best known for writing and producing Gossip Girl, and for running Smash in its second season after Teresa Rebeck uh left the show He did also create the FBI drama Quantico. Another executive producer is Jenna Bush Hager, daughter of former President George W. Bush. Only one episode of Line of Fire has aired so far on NBC September twenty-first. We got access to two episodes, but we'll be careful about spoilers. Let's do the chen check-in. Santiago, should our listeners watch Line of Fire? Santiago 02:55 I have seen worse entries in the copaganda genre, but this is a no for me. Tara 02:59 Sarah Sarah 03:00 Almost exactly that qualified no. It did a lot of things well though. Tara 03:04 Dave Dave 03:05 I'm always fascinated to revisit what the network drama is in 2026, but Clip 03:12 It could have been nicer. Tara 03:16 Yeah, it's a no for me too. I sort of suggested this with the idea of like, it's nice to do a network show every now and then, and it is, but you can't do it all the time. Normally we start with our guest, but I have to ask Sarah first. This seems very calculated to fit the blue blood -shaped hole in people's hearts that isn't already being filled by Boston Blue. What Did line of fire get wrong in this mission? Sarah 03:40 It's like Santiago said, like it's cross-agency national level propaganda Tara 03:47 Mm-hmm. Sarah 03:47 Also having trouble recalibrating my Hope Davisometer after Furious, because Tara 03:53 Yeah Sarah 03:55 no spoilers. Kalsa is actually less sort of blandly smug and off-putting than I almost always find him. Tara 04:05 Well, you can't get a little bit of a Sarah 04:05 here. I think it is a little bit faster paced in the dialogue and the way it's edited. It seems a little more confident and ambitious than the usual flauding pilot It got a lot done in the first couple episodes. I watched both that we had access to, but I just have a feeling once it gets to actually solving the mystery for the viewer that it's just gonna kind of unravel and go back to like revert to mean. So for what it does, I think it's good, but it's it's what it does. Like it's copaganda. Tara 04:40 Yes. It's very now that's what I call network cop Dave 04:45 Not only Tara 04:45 show. Dave 04:46 is it like copaganda, it's like multi-agency umbrella tentacles everywhere Tara 04:52 Yeah. Dave 04:52 copaganda, yeah. Tara 04:53 I will give it credit for the restraint of not having Neo Wallace Sarah 04:53 Yeah Tara 04:57 the DHS detective at the end of the pilot be like Mike's first wife or something, because I really was waiting for that and then they didn't Sarah 05:03 Yeah. Dave 05:03 It really has that Star Wars everybody's related to everybody Sarah 05:05 Yeah Dave 05:07 feel to it, yeah. Tara 05:07 Yes. Okay, Santiago, you've lived in the DMV, the greater DC Sarah 05:08 Mm-hmm. Tara 05:12 area. Were you constantly coming in contact with dedicated noble public servants like the Hollingsworths in your time there? Dave 05:19 Yeah, were ya? Santiago 05:20 Uh, I was constantly coming in contact with people who see themselves that way. Tara 05:26 Mm-hmm. Dave 05:26 Yeah, yeah. Santiago 05:27 I actually watched them twice because if I'm going to hate something, I'm going to hate it from a position of authority. Tara 05:30 Whoa. Sarah 05:32 Mm-hmm. Tara 05:33 That is above and beyond. Sarah 05:34 Relatable. Dave 05:34 Yeah. Tara 05:35 No one told you to do that. Santiago 05:36 I'm a thorough bitch, alright? Tara 05:38 Sure. Dave 05:38 Yeah. Santiago 05:38 Um I'm gonna I'm gonna start off with what I liked about this show because there was something that I liked, and that was uh the complicated family dynamic. I thought it they handled that very well. It's dysfunctional but grounded and they really nailed emotionally manipulative family relations. Tara 05:55 Mm-hmm. Santiago 05:55 It's a dynamic that I and many other people can relate to. Tara 05:58 Sure. Santiago 05:58 There's this one scene in the pilot where the two older siblings are chatting on the phone while they're working. And they're each sharing with the other their struggles with their respective parent, and then decidedly not looping in the third sibling into the call. Tara 06:14 Mm-hmm Santiago 06:15 Uh that was just so real, the way that family members make calculated choices of who they share what information with. So there's a great show buried there that just had all this propaganda stuff thrown onto it. Dave 06:30 Yeah. Santiago 06:30 But like with each of these characters and their deep-rooted and specific dynamics like It has like a like I said, the makings of a really compelling family drama that I would watch if it uh were an otherwise a cookie cutter cop mystery. Like there are so many tropes that Tara 06:43 Mm-hmm. Santiago 06:45 We've seen a thousand times. Someone's partner is murdered in episode one and the survivor throws herself into her work. Uh, the killer leaving behind a calling card that a detective covers up for personal reasons. Dave 06:56 Yeah. The officer who's too involved with his protectee. Tara 07:01 Mm-hmm. Dave 07:01 Yeah Santiago 07:02 Right. It's just been done so many times in so many more interesting ways that it felt lazy. So after watching the second episode, I thought to myself, who the fuck made this shit? And as Tara alluded to earlier, it is executive produced by Jenna Bush Hager, you know Jenna Bush, of Descended from Multiple War Criminals fame, and suddenly everything about the show made sense. Tara 07:24 Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean she didn't create it. She's a she's an EP, but she shepherded it through to being made. Santiago 07:32 Right. Sarah 07:32 Yeah Santiago 07:33 And I I read something about like the show is like Tara 07:33 So Santiago 07:35 inspired by her experiences with the Secret Service Tara 07:39 Okay, so who was she fucking? Santiago 07:39 or something. Like Tara 07:41 I guess is the next question Santiago 07:41 Uh Sarah 07:41 Yeah Santiago 07:41 that's what I thought. Who was she fucking? Dave 07:44 Yeah. Sarah 07:44 And also, does she think anyone thinks as well of her pops as I think of Chris Chalk, who, spoiler I guess, shows up in episode two Santiago 07:50 Oh my god Dave 07:51 Yeah Sarah 07:53 and I was like, oh. Thank God. The grown-ups can talk. But also, what are you doing, bro? Dave 07:57 I I agree with what you said Sarah 07:59 Yeah. Dave 08:01 about the family dynamics. My only wish is that they could have sold it better in the dialogue. Because when they actually are talking to each other, the actual words on the scripts are kind of painful to listen to as a representative of real-world conversations. Tara 08:16 Mm-hmm. Santiago 08:16 And Sarah 08:17 Yeah Santiago 08:17 every line could have been said by any character. Tara 08:20 Yes. Sarah 08:20 Yeah. Tara 08:21 I don't give Peter Krause credit for much, but his letting the show joke about Mike's bad eyesight minutes into the episode with the gigantic tech size on his phone was was pretty good. Dave 08:32 I don't think you can make it that big on his own. Like, I don't think you can actually do that on an iPhone. Like you can get it bigger, but I don't think you can make it that big. It was like Sarah 08:40 It really is like one letter at a time. Dave 08:42 Hello and it was split over two lines, you know. Sarah 08:46 It's like that onion headline that says war and R is on the second page. Dave 08:50 Yeah. Sarah 08:51 Yeah. Uh Santiago 08:53 I I would like to run through some of the rough notes that I took for episode one to give viewers an impression of my mental state throughout this episode. Peter Krause's character is displaying a level of professional ethics I simply do not believe coming from a career cop. Oh, never mind, he almost immediately asks his DOJson for an illegal favor. Hope Davis describes their family as, quote, human superheroes doing the Lord's work. Tara 09:19 I forgot that. Santiago 09:19 Secret Service Fuckboi is so coked out in the dinner scene. Tara 09:23 Mm-hmm. Sarah 09:24 Mm-hmm. Santiago 09:24 Another terrible Hope Davis line, quote, I don't believe in you, I'm sure of you. Shut the fuck up. Take a second pass at the script. Tara 09:36 Yeah. Dave 09:36 Uh I have an exciting update. I owe Sarah 09:38 Yes. Dave 09:39 line of fire an apology. You can make your text that big, as you can see right now. Somebody take a screen time of that, will you please Sarah 09:47 Uh while we're working on the visual aids in this notoriously visual medium. I will say that as always, nobody knows how to call an Uber or a Lyft or like Greek some car service name so that people aren't announcing in one scene, hey, let's get drunk, and then two scenes later, zipping off to some crime scene. I just I mean I'm sure this actually happens and Lord knows NYPD is doing it all the time. Allegedly. But come on. Like, there's not quite enough for us to pay attention to besides Them being too impaired to drive for them to be too impaired to drive. Tara 10:27 I mean, you cared about their well-being more than I did. I gave no second thought to that. Sarah 10:31 Oh, I'm not saying I cared about their well-being. Tara 10:34 Mm-hmm. Sarah 10:35 I'm just saying if the dialogue perhaps had been a little better or this had been a little less tropey, I wouldn't have had time to notice it. Dave 10:43 Speaking about the tropes, we often complain on this show, or at least point out, about whenever you have two law enforcement agencies in play, they always have to have a jurisdiction beef over who gets to lead it. Which I think, once again, if you're like, Oh, you want to take the lead in this, I can go home at five o'clock? Hey, have at it. Sarah 11:00 Yeah, seriously. Dave 11:01 I hope you get the your collar. But What they do in this show is they really shoehorn in that trope into a metaphor for the family dynamics where Eventually mother and daughter are working the same case from two different agencies, and it's almost like an Abbott and Costello routine sometimes when they're like in front of the press. or digging on each other because one wants to work the room this way and one wants to w do it another way. It was so ham fisted. Like it really was like Coyote dropping an anvil from the cliff and the anvil has white letters that says metaphor on it. Tara 11:37 Uh I also have to say n and we can freely say this because it happened in the pilot, it's not a spoiler anymore. The narrative that only Claire has the brilliant mind and will to get to the bottom of this case that everyone else just wants to close is kind of undermined by her being in a relationship with a likely covert agent Sarah 11:55 Mm Tara 11:55 for quite some time, like at least months, if not years, I believe. Sarah 11:58 -hmm Dave 11:59 Yeah. Are you talking about Claire as played by Celia Weston? Tara 12:03 Great granddaughter? Yes. Dave 12:04 Yeah. Tara 12:05 She does. Sarah 12:05 Oh my god, it really was uncanny. Tara 12:08 Yeah. Santiago 12:08 Um, can I be a pedantic for a moment? Okay, so Tara alluded to me spending some time in the DMV.there's the daughter at one point is at a crime scene in Crozet, Virginia, and then finds some evidence and goes straight to her mother who is at a gala in presumably DC. Tara 12:25 Mm-hmm. Santiago 12:26 Two and a half hours away from Crozet, the daughter walks into the gala still dripping wet from the mud. She would have dried off in two and a half hours. Tara 12:35 Yeah. Santiago 12:36 Not the show's biggest sin, but something that irked Dave 12:38 Yeah. Another Millie Hubert slam dunk. Santiago 12:39 me. Dave 12:44 Take that line of fire. Tara 12:47 It's also even if she hadn't dried off, like someone would have stopped her walking into the ballroom and like tracking m mud fucking everywhere I spent most of the first episode thinking, isn't this show more interesting if one of the kids does something outside of the family business, but then we find out one did and it actually is not more interesting. Dave 13:07 And then that really is outside the family business anyways. Tara 13:09 Yeah, yes, I suppose that's true. Santiago 13:12 They alluded to the youngest son, like, oh, you could have been an artist. So like maybe he actually did want to be an artist at one point. Tara 13:17 Mm-hmm. Hmm. I assumed that was just preparation for reveal that he's gay. Sorry. Because I feel like one of the four kids has to be, if not two. Santiago 13:30 He does have a nice set of DSLs on his face. Tara 13:35 Mike jokes about this in the pilot, but I would love to know if Secret Service agents really do have worse health insurance than Marshalls do. Because that seems like it should be the other way around. So he says that's why they're not divorced Sarah 13:46 All right. Tara 13:48 formally. Sarah 13:49 Oh, yeah. Dave 13:50 And this Santiago 13:51 And I just assumed Dave 13:52 is Santiago 13:52 they don't the government doesn't care if Secret Service agents die, because that's kind of their job. Tara 13:55 I guess. Well, I hope the real ones have much better eyesight than m Mike does, cough Santiago 13:57 To literally take the bullet. Tara 14:03 cough. Dave 14:03 Yeah, that does really seem like a disqualifying thing, doesn't it? Tara 14:06 Yeah, it does Dave 14:06 Yeah. Yeah. Sarah 14:08 I hope we also get like there's a cousin and they work also in the Treasury Department, which is where the Secret Service technically is nestled. Tara 14:16 Right Dave 14:17 Yeah. Sarah 14:17 in the chain and there's some like counterfeit thing or like someone walks through a scene and you could see that it's like the DBcooper ransom Tara 14:25 You wish Sarah 14:25 money. Santiago 14:26 Uh another pedantic moment, uh it switched from treasury to homeland security uh after 9-11. But yeah, your point stands. Clip 14:39 New fangled stories on my electric story box. Dave 14:44 It is time to go around the dial. Let's start with Tara. Tara 14:48 A raucous comedy set in the cutthroat world of collegiate Bollywood dance competitions is something you don't know you need until you get it, and it's called Best of the Best. This story is about Maya. Maitri Ramakrishn from Never Have I Ever and Anjali Priyanka Kadia, best friends since childhood. After a dance routine they do at a talent show goes viral the bad way, they both enroll at you UCLA, eager to reinvent themselves, but they each have baggage they can't leave behind. Maya has always felt inferior to Anjali, who is very beautiful and cool and makes friends easily. Anjali has struggled academically, whereas Maya is a programming brainiac as well as a creative and fearless dancer. And on the day they get moved into their dorm room, Anjali 's mother, played by Janina Gavancar Tells her that if she finds out Anjali 's been goofing off, she'll stop paying her tuition. UCLA turns out to have an extremely competitive Bollywood dance team, which both girls join. Anjali because she has a crush on the captain and Maya for personal glory. And as a connoisseur of dance movies, where a lot of them disappoint is the volume of dance sequences you see. This is not a problem here. There are five in about the first half hour, and that's before we even get to the first qualifying competition in the run up to the titular best of the best finals. All the choreography is innovative and fun, and you can tell the two leads are both excellent actors as well as dancing ringers, and then between and sometimes during the dancing scenes, you get a sweet and relatable story of female friendship during a transitional moment. The Netflix original movies I have watched vary wildly in quality, so I rarely go into them expecting to be wowed. This is probably the best of the best that I've seen this year, so suck a dick office romance For my plug, speaking of teens, I'm gonna recommend the Listen to Sassy Club. This is the club of our sister podcast, Listen to Sassy, where we are reading every issue of Sassy magazine. I believe we are over the over the halfway mark now. But if you join the club for just five dollars a month, you can get access to PDF scans of every single issue, which you really can't find anywhere else unless you decide to try to buy them yourself. So Do that, listen to Sassy dot com slash club. Dave 17:04 All right, Sandy, what do you got for us? Santiago 17:07 Well, don't sound so excited, Dave. I've got two things. Uh I'll keep the first one brief because a lot's been said about it already. I recently started and binged all of Matlock, and it is incredible. Hot take, Kathy Bates is a good actor. Tara 17:22 Oh, that matlock. Sarah 17:23 Oh Tara 17:24 Okay, yes. I thought you meant the original one. I forgot about the remake. Dave 17:26 Right. Tara 17:27 Go on. Santiago 17:28 It can get kind of repetitive like any procedural, but her performance is really complex and rich. Sarah 17:28 well Santiago 17:34 And the show is a great reminder that the Sackler family couldn't have poisoned all of us with opioids by themselves. The systems in place enabled it, and I like that the show has something to say, and I really appreciate that about it. But I mainly want to talk about Game Changer on dropout. Tara 17:49 Here we go. Santiago 17:50 Here we go. Which recently wrapped up season eight, uh, on Monday. Game Changer recently got into the canon, and I'm going to give myself partial credit for that by loosening the jar, priming the pump for uh this panel of esteemed judges to let it drop out content into the canon. Dave 18:09 It's worth just pointing out that what we're talking about is many moons ago. Santiago 18:09 Yes. Dave 18:14 We're talking years now. You wanted to make an argument for Dimension Twenty in the canon and it was so long ago that it was still just a web series on YouTube or something like that. And it was also like twenty hours long, I think, the episode. Tara 18:26 It was really long Dave 18:26 So we're like, I can't. This camp. Santiago 18:30 Totally fair. I don't envision myself pitching Dimension 20 for the canon. This might be recency bias, but this season of Game Changer had some of the most extraordinary episodes Uh like I will never forget Anna Garcia 's Feral episode long meltdown in Roulette 2, and if you've seen it, you know what I'm talking about. But what I really want to discuss is about episode six titled Noise Some Makes. It's a very meta take on their other show, Make some Noise. This is going to sound gibberish to people who've never heard of the of Dropout. But in this episode, three teams of four people have to play a psychotic version of the telephone game. First, a sketch artist is given a secret prompt. They have a minute to draw the prompt. That drawing is then given to a very reluctant production assistant, Kaylin, having the worst day of her life because she was unknowingly roped into participating. Sarah 19:22 Yeah. Santiago 19:22 She's in an isolated phone booth and has to describe that drawing to Zach Oyama. Zach, who, by the way, is being forced to listen to Smooth by Santana on a loop. He hears the prompt through the phone and then has to act it out for Lily Doo, who then has to try and guess what the original prompt was based on that whole chain and what happens in the clip you're about to hear is so miraculous it made me believe in god and that god's name is lily does Clip 19:54 Wow, is it just me and these monkeys? Oh well. Hey, we're all playing the game, right? I guess I'll go first. You guys all get behind me, okay? Alright. Jack, be nimble, Jack, be quick. You guys wanna get in, all you monkeys? I think that's pretty much it. Wow. Wow So what do you not get? Lily writing a small novella. Lily. What? Give me your heart, make it real. Or forget about it, you know? Lily, what do you think is the prompt? Man playing limbo with a group of monkeys possibly as metaphor for evolution? Guys, guys. Oh I can't believe it. Holy shit. The evolution of man diagram, but each step leans further and further back into Linda. What the fuck? I'll be honest, no part of my was thinking about evolution out Santiago 21:14 Based on Zack's narration, anyone could have guessed Monkeys playing limbo, but Lily Doo's ability to divine the deeper meaning that Zack didn't even intend to portray was a great example. Of how well the team at Dropout knows one another and understands their specific brands of comedy and how much Dropout's content across its various shows rewards devoted fans who have gotten to know the comedians. so well over the years, almost as much as they've gotten to know each other and how they think and what the prompt possibly could have been. Insane Sarah 21:48 That is Santiago 21:48 moment. Tara 21:49 Yep, it was cool. Sarah 21:49 wild. Santiago 21:50 And for my plug, Tara mentioned at the top that I am a drag queen in San Francisco. Uh give me a follow on Blue Sky and Instagram. My name is MariCone. If you don't speak Spanish, it sounds like a normal name, and if you do speak Spanish, it is a hilarious pun. I am inviting all Bay Area Dolly Parton fans to come to my show on Thursday, October 8th. It is a Dolly Parton tribute night called I Will Always Love You. It's happening at a bar called the Edge in the Castro at 10 p. m. So come on down. Dave 22:21 All right, Sarah, what do you got for us? Sarah 22:23 Whiplash I'm talking about monster colon, the Lizzie Borden story. As I said in my review on bestevidence. fyi, it's not dull. Pardon the pun. It's thought provoking. It is infuriating. It plays really loose with the few facts that we do know for sure about that day. Victims' ages and vocations are changed like way too much. It's not a shift. It's like an outright change. Floor plans are incorrect. Guardian scenes are scored with the runaways and already larded with anachronistic dialogue. Sarah Paulson is portraying Aileen Warnos. The portrayal is either tasteless or brilliant, unless it's actually both. I still haven't decided. I complained about Monster Lizzie to my spouse for a full 20 minutes. I could easily have kept going past that. But could I keep going with the four plus episodes I haven't watched yet? I'm not sure. I think that cases like this endure because of what we don't know, because we're ninety-eight percent sure that Lizzie Borden killed her parents with an axe. But those last two percentage points contain multitudes, and it's in that space that Ian Brennan and Max Winkler have a great opportunity to investigate and reimagine the case. Monster and American crime story return almost inevitably to ideas of repression, pathology, warping effects of homophobia and or racism and or misogyny. the constrictions of society, whether that's larger capital S society or the smaller societies that we form at home and in families. And broadly, this is a very worthwhile tact to take in the true crime genre. And sometimes from this creative team in the Murphy verse, the results are very moving. Season two of American Crime Story, the Menendez season of Monster or Monsters had some really thought-provoking, rueful moments. But at other times, and it's more often than not in Monster Seasons, it is misguided or off-tone or seems like it's rationalizing ghastly murders and desecration. The approach makes sense here for Lizzie Borden's story. It's easy to theorize that desperation in the face of mistreatment by her parents, shame about feelings for other women, no hope of improving her prospects by conventional means, could have created this monster and it's been theorized, in fact, but you can work in this space without straight up ignoring basic Case info that's just going to annoy semi-experts in the field. Charlie Huntum is very talented, but he's 25 years too young to play Andrew Borden. Rebecca Hall is having a blast as the incandescently twatty Abby Borden, but past that actor service, I don't understand the decision to turn a woman who, by most accounts, was an unobjectionable dumpling into a cartoonishly cruel harpy and Paulson is getting at something with Warnos 's unique Antic defiance, I think there is a compassion for this person under the distracting stunt teeth, but Like everything else in Monsters Lizzie season, the sequence and the portrayal aren't given two consecutive seconds to be still and say one thing about one thing. I have no idea whether to recommend this. I do think I am going to recommend to myself that I not review these seasons anymore because it's always the same. Jesus, calm down, write up every time. Dave 26:02 What is the conceit that brings Warnos into this story? Sarah 26:07 As far as I have watched, which is to about the halfway point, the uh Dave 26:10 No Sarah 26:12 justification they appear to be using is that when she uh when she was working as a sex worker, when she was picked up and asked, you know, small talkishly her name, she would say Dave 26:18 , Sarah 26:22 Lizzie Dave 26:23 Uh okay. Sarah 26:24 Gordon Dave 26:24 Got it. Tara 26:25 I assumed it was like the last season that we watched with the the Ed Geen where they bring in like Psycho and other serial killers that are sort of similar to the story. Dave 26:33 I also like to be called busy. Sarah 26:36 Oh Tara 26:36 I also would like to submit incandescently Twatty as a sticker Sarah 26:36 my God Tara 26:40 option, by the way. Dave 26:40 Oh, okay. Alright. Remind me after the show and I'll put that on the list. Sarah 26:46 I will do so incandescently. Dave 26:48 Mm-hmm. Sarah 26:48 Anyway, like I said, I reviewed it for best evidence. It is in the show notes. There are visual aids, don't worry, they're not as disgusting as some of the actual visuals in the show. But I'd also like to mention that we have a mutual aid vault here at Extra Hot Great. Your fellow listeners put a year of extra, extra hot great club membership in the vault. And if you are in need of it, you get a full extra episode every week, by the way, access to the Discord and much more. So you are in need of it, drop me an email at bunting at TomatoNation. com. I am happy to help And if you'd like to donate a year for your fellow listeners, please do the same. That link will be in the show notes as well. It's anonymous, it's a cinch to set up, and we would really, really love to have you. Dave 27:34 Alright, coming up on this Friday's extra extra hot grate for our club members will be talking about brothers with Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson doing their thing where they're together in the same project I assume this is exactly like true detective. I can tell because in the picture, Woody Harrelson was wearing a tie dye t shirt. If you're interested in that and you were not a member, please go to extra hot great. com slash club. We'll be talking about that and a whole lot more and coming. Soon we will be starting listener game time. So that I think will be the week after that will start. So look forward to that. And then on EHG Prime. In one week's time, we'll be talking about American Horror Story Season 13, the Spookia Season. Tara 28:17 Mm-hmm. Dave 28:17 Yeah, scary. Tara 28:18 With new guest Dave 28:19 New guest Tara 28:20 Daniel Feinberg, chief TV critic for the Hollywood Reporter. Dave 28:24 That's right, just booked right before recording. So I forgot to put it in my show notes, but that's exciting! Tara 28:29 Yep. Dave 28:36 It is time for the extra hot great cannon presenting this week Sarah D. But dig Sarah 28:42 Listen, listen, listen. It is tough to pick a single episode of Drunk History to pitch for the canon, and it's tough to pitch any episode of this show effectively, honestly, because the humor really does rely on the visual. In case you are not familiar with the premise of the show, per the Wikipedia entry, in each episode, an inebriated narrator. Joined by host Derek Waters, struggles to recount an event from history while actors enact the narrator's anecdotes and also lip-sync the dialogue. So obviously the success of any given episode or segment rests in no small part on how precisely a given actor in the reenactment can convey every uh slurred place name and juicy booze belch, so it's tough to make the case using only audio, but we'll see how tough when I talk about season five, episode seven, Drunk Mystery Drunk Mystery aired March 6, 2018, and concerns itself with unsolved mysteries. Not just the concept, the show as well. Buckle up for Derek Waters' silent movie imitation of Robert Stack in clip one. Clip 29:57 So join us tonight as we reopen these brand new historic mysteries as well as a brand new bottle of bourbon. A drunk Mystery Sarah 30:12 Well done on the music. And for the record, that's not his voice, but he is reenacting Robert Stack wearing a wig that looks like it was from some George Washington sketch in a previous episode. The drunk mysteries in question are the disappearance of Agatha Christie in 1926, the aforementioned D. B. Cooper, and the Circleville Letters. And that's the main reason I think this episode is canonworthy. Its evident fondness for the true crime genre generally and unsolved mysteries and old Bob Stack specifically. The beauty of drunk history, tackling legendary who donuts of the last century, is that it doesn't get bogged down in overly detailed crack pottery. It can't. It's only got about seven minutes to get you through the story, and it's using a drunk ass to do it. Here is a wasted Kyle Mooney giving, actually, what is pretty much the best summation of DB Cooper's enduring cultural appeal I may ever have heard. As Taryn Killam as the reenactment, Cooper spreads the appropriate amount of mustard on taking off his sunglasses, clip two. Clip 31:17 So once the plane is at 10,000 feet in the air, he straps all the cash to himself, goes to the end of the plane, opens an exit, and he's like Yeah, okay. I'm officially cool Sarah 31:40 Later, after crashing to the floor of the set, Mooney inadvertently undermines generations of relentless competence copaganda on the part of the FBI as he provides dialogue for the Cooper case agent closing the file, Clip three Clip 31:56 So after forty-five years of of trying to figure this out, the FBI in 2016 goes. I guess we didn't do it this time. our best I think we gotta say case closed you know what this is what we like to call an unsolved Guy. And then other guy was like, no, unsolved mystery. And it's like, exactly. Sarah 32:30 And in the Circleville segment, we get more love for the show from segment narrator Georgia Hardstark, clip four. Clip 32:37 So in 93, everyone's favorite show as a child that scared the ever-loving shit out of us in the best possible way, unsolved mysteries. The best. best comes to Circleville, Ohio to do a story on the letters and the possible murder and what the f is happening. Everyone's like, we couldn't believe this happened here. And then Unsolved Mysteries got a letter from the Circleville letter writer. And it said, forget Circleville, if you guys come to Circleville, you you freakos will pay. Wow. I know I think we should solve this mystery. Alright, so uh what do you think? You know who talks? Kids. You know who listens to kids? Nobody. A bus driver. Sarah 33:30 From there, the show goes into an unsolved mystery style reenactment of Their theory featuring Vanessa Bayer reenacting the role of victim and suspect Mary Gillespie again, except in the re-reenactment, she has blonde hair. And she is credited as Clarissa Mayer for playing the blonde version. So the abiding nostalgia for unsolved mysteries is one reason. The casting, of course, is another Again, in this deeply visual medium of podcasting, it's hard to describe how well Kirsten Dunce portrays Agatha Christie or how impressive it is that mister Dunst, Jesse Plemens, keeps a straight face when the paperwork described in clip five Clip 34:13 And he looks inside and there's um an expired license and a piece of paper and they say Agatha Christie. It's called vocal fry. So Sarah 34:28 It has just as many ease on the prop registration as you heard in Allison Rich 's rendition of Christy's name. And Blemmins has to perform the bits about Vocal Fry and the parts where Rich is cracking herself up so hard she's drooling an old-fashioned down her shirt. It's difficult to convey how funny it is that that notorious identicit sketch of D. B. Cooper has been modified for the episode to look like Terran Killam wearing a pair of Ray Bans drawn by a five-year-old It's hard to explain how perfect it is that Ralph Himmelsbach, the obsessed FBI agent who stuck with the Cooper case for decades, is played by Richard Real. Hey, it's that guy who's best known to me from office space, and as the prison guard who's asked whether he would care to revise his bullshit story in the fugitive. But it's not that difficult to explain why putting Georgia Hardstark, pioneer in the true crime comedy podcast space, on the drunk history couch with a bottle of pink champers, is a perfect choice for this episode And hopefully I've done an okay job explaining, even if you can't see the evidence I'm submitting, that drunk mystery has everything you'd think of when you'd think of the best episodes of the show. Big name actors lip-syncing incomprehensible narration, top comedians literally falling down drunk, burps, swears but that the episode also exemplifies the less obvious ingredients for a successful drunk history episode cocktail confidence in its own formula, an ear for what makes a segment work in a given genre, and deep knowledge of what is parodying. It's hard to do this particular kind of show justice in an audio presentation, and if I roll any more clips, I will risk Dave having a drunk Dave trauma response and voting against it. So I'm gonna let you guys discuss and hope that we will all be raising a glass to Drunk Mysteries' successful induction into the extra hot great cannon. Tara 36:26 Thank you, Sara. Santiago, you chose this from our list of submissions. Please start us off Santiago 36:32 Yeah. Uh Sarah, first of all, thank you for that wonderful presentation. I have seen several episodes of Drunk History. First of all, how appropriate is it that a drag queen is commenting on a lip syncing show? Sarah 36:45 Yeah, no Tara 36:46 Mm-hmm. Sarah 36:47 no pressure over here in the pitch seat. Santiago 36:49 Kirsten Dunce and Jesse Clemens especially nailed the lip syncing. because it's not just the the mouth movements, it's also the the subtle facial expressions that each of them are doing. They did incredible work on that front in my opinion. Where the episode fell flat for me was in the third section, the Ohio Letters one. That felt like the most thin of the three, and it was you know nowhere near on the level of like a D D Cooper mystery. I'm not very familiar with Unsolved Mystery, so I think that uh might be where I was hesitant with the reenactment portion because to my knowledge it's the first time in drunk history that the reenactment actors actually spoke scripted lines. Going into this, I was thinking of voting no, but your argument of it being an homage to to Unsolved Mysteries And that being itself thematic to drunk history um has me reconsidering. I'm currently on the fence and am curious to hear what Dave and Tara have to say I will also point out within the first two minutes of the episode they use a G-slur for Romani people Sarah 38:02 Oh yeah. Santiago 38:04 A little boy and his ethnicity has absolutely nothing to do with anything. And I was like, that's that was unnecessary. They could have taken that out. Sarah 38:11 Yeah, they should have cut that out on the on the rerun, honestly. Like what adds nothing, you're right. Tara 38:17 Yeah, I mean I assume that's a detail from the original nineteen twenties reporting, but it it's not it's not Germane. Dave 38:23 Yeah, I don't know. Tara 38:24 Yeah. Alright, I'll go next. Yeah, I th this is Santiago showing off. He's so young. He doesn't even know what Unsolved Mysteries is. Dave 38:31 Yeah, when did it start again, Sarah? Do you know off the top of your head? Sarah 38:34 Unsolved Mysteries, uh Dave 38:36 Like eighty-four or so? Sarah 38:36 mid 80s, and I think was it Orson Dave 38:37 Yeah. Sarah 38:39 Wells who was the host for a while? Like they Dave 38:40 Really? Sarah 38:41 took them a while to get to Robert Stack, too. Dave 38:42 Oh, okay. The person that was talking about like weirdly kids were into it. It's true because remind me Unsolved Mysteries also dip their toe once in a while in like cryptics and UFO stuff too, right? Tara 38:55 Mm-hmm. Dave 38:56 Like the it wasn't just true crime. Tara 38:57 Right. Dave 38:58 It was it was basically the time life books as a Sarah 39:01 Yeah, yeah. Dave 39:01 Yeah. Sarah 39:02 No, ghosts, lost Dave 39:03 Mm-hmm. Sarah 39:04 twins before you had the internet and could just, you know, Google. Dave 39:07 Because I have a memory of when the show starts. They sort of give you little vignettes of what's about to happen. I would get excited when it was like, oh fuck, it's the Bigfoot thing or aliens or some weird shit. And the kind of stories in this episode. Sorry, I it's not I know it's not my my turn, but Tara 39:24 No, go ahead, that's fine. Dave 39:25 W would be the thing I would like be bummed that that was the segments when I was a kid, but now you're like, ooh, I n I didn't know anything about this Agatha Christie thing. Anyways, that is to say that I just wanted to back up that people of a certain vintage did have a weird fascination with this show that seems to be outside of the demographics that you would assume for it. Tara 39:44 Yeah, this is Gen X shit for sure. Gen X Sarah 39:47 Yeah. Tara 39:47 bullshit, if you will, complimentary Dave 39:48 Yep. Sarah 39:49 Yeah. But like during Bigfoot, I would have been in the kitchen reloading the ice cream bowl. Like there was a little something for everyone or for no one. Tara 39:57 Mm-hmm. Hommage to the extent that they had reenactments that are bad, with people acting badly that you can hear acting badly in bad wigs, like missing their missing their mark, etc. All of that I thought was really funny for that reason like the Circleville letters story the best because it was the smallest stakes one, although someone did go to prison apparently for something he probably didn't do. And then at the end, like Derek Waters just casually offering what is a very likely scenario for who actually did it was sort of a bonus where it's like, well maybe you did solve it. Who knows? We'll never know, because probably everyone in the story is dead now. But there was also a lot to like in the performances as well, both of the narrators and the reenactors. I thought Jesse Plemens was way better than Kirsten Dunst. A lot of times I think them the reenactors like you can tell that they're mouthing along and not speaking. And they're just like overdoing it with the lip syncing, whereas Jesse Plannin's like, it really did seem like those all of that dialogue was actually coming out of him , including when he like burps or whatever. Santiago 41:13 He was the star of the episode for me. Tara 41:15 Yeah, but I think they're all very funny and very good and the idea of having this sort of unsolved mysteries frame around it is a smart way to just bring in three stories that otherwise might have been too outside their remit. So this was a great pick. And as soon as we got to the middle one, I was like, oh of course. Like obviously this was the one that Sarah's gonna pitch. Dave 41:36 Yeah. Tara 41:37 It's the law, if Dave 41:39 Sarah out of one to ten, how did they nail the unsolved mysteriosity of it all, do you think? Sarah 41:45 Overall, or just in the Dave 41:46 Yeah, overall, just like the the cadence of like the parts that speak directly to unsolved mysteries, like how well did you think they emulated it? Sarah 41:56 Pretty well. Dave 41:56 Yeah. Sarah 41:57 I thought that they did a good homage to the like you hear the music sort of like slowly ramping up in the background in certain segments that I clipped, and that's a Dave 42:04 Yeah Sarah 42:06 that's a hallmark of Unsolved Mysteries. The self important Robert Stack narration. I mean n Bless him, truly. Elliot Nest Forever in our hearts, but that sort of like stentorian and like they got the they didn't get the coat. Right? It needed to be a double-breasted trench coat that, unlike Columbo, someone actually ironed. I thought it was good because I thought it shares with unsolved mysteries the fact that like You have to get a lot of information across in a regulation network segment. And they did that efficiently with drunk people. Tara 42:46 And by the way, just to backtrack, it wasn't Orson Wells, it was Raymond Burke. Sarah 42:50 Yes, sorry. Tara 42:50 Proceed. Sarah 42:51 For some reason I always get those two confused. You're welcome, Raymond Burr. Dave 42:56 The first segment of him walking through the foggy night was like, Oh, okay, yeah, I got it. Tara 43:01 Mm-hmm. Dave 43:02 In the Agatha Christie section, there's a point where she is basically goes to a spa and she's just gonna unwind there while her story in the newspapers plays out, which made me think What if we could get an Agatha Christie murder mystery inside of Road to Wellville? Tara 43:20 Yeah. Dave 43:20 How great would that be? Sarah 43:20 Mm-hmm. Tara 43:21 Mm-hmm. Dave 43:22 Absolutely. Mr. Unpronounceable and all those guys. Love it. Tara 43:26 Yes. Dave 43:26 My old stools, sir, are gigantic and smell no more than a hot biscuit. Jesse Plum is also the VIP for me, and I just want to highlight this one thing I thought the best actual drunk moment belonged to Kyle Mooney and I clipped it for you. Clip 43:43 So where is T B Cooper? You tell me. What was that? You tell me? Don't ruin this for America for me. Dave 44:01 Don't ruin this for America for me. I think that might make it onto the soundboard. Really funny episode. The challenge with drunk history is the same challenge with like a Saturday Night Live or a Kids in the Hall. Like are all the segments good enough to get you over the the threshold of a canon? entry. I think these were all good. I never heard of the Circleville ones, but that didn't stop me from enjoying that. That one had the extra boost of doing the reenactments from the show. Which were stupid and great in that drunk history kind of way. So all three of these hit for me. So let's put it to the vote. Santiago playing the role of Sarah D. Bunting being on the fence and not giving up a hint and of how he's going to vote until it's time for the vote. Well done. A taste of her own medicine. Now it's time to say whether it's canon worthy or not. Santiago 44:53 I'm convinced. Yes, candy worthy. Dave 44:55 Fantastic Tar. Tara 44:57 Yes, for me as well. Dave 44:58 Me too, so Everybody's dancing. It's Drunk History, Season 5, Episode 7, Drunk Mystery. You are hereby inducted into the extra hot Greek canon. Clip 45:18 Americans love a winner. Yep. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. Dave 45:24 It is time for the winner and loser of the week. Sarah has this week's winner. Sarah 45:28 Well, I mean I think the winner is the listener because you're gonna play the coop there he is drop, right? Dave 45:35 Oh my god, how did I forget about that? Jesus Christ, do I still have it? Tara 45:41 You have you must. Dave 45:42 I mean, you Sarah 45:43 You must. Tara 45:43 You must. Dave 45:44 think I would Tara 45:45 Y you'd think Dave 45:51 have to do that. Clip 45:56 Take me back to the old school Cause I'm a old fool who's so cool. If you wanna get down, I'ma show you the way. There it is, let me hit you saying Coop there, yes. Sarah 46:04 Coop, there he is. Clip 46:05 Coop there, yes. Sarah 46:06 Coop there he is Clip 46:07 Coop very yes Dave 46:11 Been a while. It's been a while. Sarah 46:12 Yeah. Dave 46:13 I I feel bad that I let you down there. I that should have been on the soundboard, ready to go. Tara 46:17 Shameful. Sarah 46:17 That's okay, uh you knew I would uh force it back in. By any means necessary. I actually have an actual winner, and it's the savant Which was the Apple TV domestic terrorism drama that was yanked from its original September 2025 premiere date after Charlie Kirk's assassination. It has now been scheduled for spring 2027. I said at the end of last year on Best Evidence that I was looking forward to a couple of these. that had been removed for either merger reasons or political reasons. And uh they're both back on the schedule, the ones that I was looking out for. So that's my winner is the savant. Dave 46:57 And Loser of the Week Tar. Tara 46:58 Loser of the week is Taylor Frankie Paul. She is departing the secret lives of Mormon Wives citing, quote, disgusting end quote bullying from her co stars, although the rumor is that actually she failed a court ordered drug test related to her domestic violence charges, and that is the actual reason. So who knows, but I mean, I don't know what point there is in the show continuing without its messiest drama vector, but perhaps they will try to soldier on without her. Maybe this is a sign from the universe they should stop. Dave 47:35 Well, speaking about who knows but I don't know. Do you know what time it is? Tara 47:41 I came down. Dave 47:54 Welcome back to Game Time. This is the second of the season. Our scores are Tara with one, defending champion Sarah D. Bunting, so looking to get on the board, and Value Guest also looking to get on that board. Today we're playing the return of the TVnepo Babies from Meredith, who earns herself a free shirt of their choosing from the EHG store at thrumethods. com. In the return of the T V Nepo Babies, you will be given the names of two T V characters. The actors who play them are real life parent and child. From those two character names, you must give me four pieces of information. The two actors, and the two shows on which they appear. Total maximum four points. Keep in mind you only get one guest, Sarah, debunting. So you have two ways to tackle this. Sarah 48:43 Thank you. Dave 48:45 Run the board right away, guess as many as you can for a maximum of four, or if you just have no idea what's going on. Ask for the hint, I will give you the TV shows in question, after which you have to give me the actor's name maximum two points. Make sense? Sarah 49:00 Yeah. Dave 49:00 Let's get the steel meal situation, please, sir. Tara 49:03 Thank you, Dave. Sarah has one. I have eight. Valued guest has Eric's meal, so one. Dave 49:08 All right, let's throw it a piggy to see who is good Tara 49:09 That rolls over. Dave 49:13 first. Clip 49:16 We will start with Sarah. Dave 49:17 All right, Sarah, our value guest, then Tara. We've got 30 questions, zero Grossworth Equalizer Challenge Zones today, in the interest of time. Are we ready to play Return of the TVnepo Babies? Tara 49:30 Yeah Sarah 49:30 Yes Dave 49:30 Here's an example for you to get you on your way. Santiago 49:30 Yes Dave 49:33 Your two characters are Jed Bartlett and Charlie Harper. I want to know the first actor and the first show that actor was on, playing Jed Bartlett, and then the second actor and the second show that Charlie Harper is on. Anybody throw that answer out there. Who we got? Santiago 49:49 The West Wing Dave 49:51 Yep. Santiago 49:51 and Martin Sheen Dave 49:52 You got it. And Sarah 49:53 To an half men Dave 49:55 And Sarah 49:55 and Charlie Dave 49:56 alright, look at these shy people. Sarah 49:56 Sheen. Dave 49:57 They don't want to answer it. Yes, correct. Alright, let's start the game off properly. Sarah D. Bunting. Lee Ray Bon. Joe March. Those are your two characters. From that, figure out the actors and the shows involved. If you don't know, you're totally clueless. You can ask for a hint, and I will give you the shows. Sarah 50:19 Um well Dave 50:21 Keep in mind, maximum of four, maximum of two after the hint. Sarah 50:26 Okay, so Lee Ray Bon and Jo March, you said Dave 50:29 Joe J O March Sarah 50:32 J -O, yes. Yeah, okay, so that's um Ethan Hawk and the Lowdown is the first one, and then uh I don't know her name, but let's guess Dave 50:43 Give me the show Sarah 50:45 Little Women Dave 50:47 Okay, so one piece left if you can get it. Keep in mind, Nepo babies. Sarah 50:51 Lilyhawk? Dave 50:52 Hmm. Tara 50:54 Good guess. Sarah 50:54 Oh Dave 50:54 That's close. Sarah 50:55 well. Dave 50:55 Four letters. Mayahawk. Santiago 50:57 nej Tara 50:58 My Dave 50:58 Mayahawk. Sarah 50:58 Oh Tara 50:58 uh Sarah 50:59 my Dave 50:59 Yeah. Sarah 50:59 uh Dave 50:59 All right. Sarah 50:59 okay. Dave 51:00 Good start though. Sarah 51:00 Well Dave 51:01 Three points Tara 51:01 Three points. Okay. You get a point for each thing. Sarah 51:02 right, I'll take it Tara 51:03 Got it. Dave 51:04 Santiago, you've got Luthan Rail and Eric Northman. So we need the two actors and the two shows those characters are on. Santiago 51:10 Oh Okay, um, is this True Blood Alexander Scar 's Guard? Um, Bill Scarsgard. Dave 51:23 Alright, I got the show. Luthan Rail is from Santiago 51:26 Yes Dave 51:27 what show? That's the only piece of information you got left to answer. You have two points though. Santiago 51:31 Uh um I have no idea, Chernobyl. Tara 51:37 It's a good guess. Dave 51:38 All right, we were looking for anybody just for your shits and grins? Tara 51:42 And or Dave 51:43 Yeah, Stellan Skarsgard in Andorra. Sarah 51:46 So it's only parents and kids, right? It's not Dave 51:48 Yeah. Nepo Tara 51:49 Yep, yep, yep. Sarah 51:49 Neppo Dave 51:50 babies. Sarah 51:50 siblings, got it Dave 51:50 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. Tara. Tara 51:52 Yep Dave 51:52 Elvis Presley. Sean Dudley. Tara 51:57 Sean Dudley. Dave 51:58 Yeah. Tara 51:59 Um, give me one show. Dave 52:01 Well you get both of them. Tara 52:02 Oh, give me both shows. Dave 52:04 Okay. Tara 52:04 Jerk. Dave 52:04 You got the TV movie Elvis Tara 52:07 Mm-hmm. Dave 52:07 and the show Lodge 49 Tara 52:10 Okay, that's um the Elvis TV movie is Kurt Russell. I should have fucking guessed that. And then the other is uh Wyatt Russell. Dave 52:19 Yes, that is good for two points. Tara 52:20 his child. Dave 52:21 I had to look that up because My mother took me to see that movie in the theaters. I think in Canada it had a post Tara 52:27 Ha wow. Dave 52:28 I know in Europe it did, it was in theaters, but it must have been Canada too because I have a very strong Tara 52:30 Hm Dave 52:33 Memory of going to the Lincoln Mall Theaters and getting trapped in the Bayou Tara 52:35 Wow. Dave 52:37 Arcade and my having to get my mum to retrieve me before the show started. Santiago 52:40 How do you get trapped in an arcade? Dave 52:42 Uh because the arcade was connected to the movie by a door, but it was only one way. It was like an exit. So I went to kill time in the arcade, but I couldn't get back in, because of course you couldn't get back in, because that would be a way to sneak in. That's how they get you. Santiago 52:56 Gotcha. Dave 52:56 Sarah, Loretta Sarah 52:57 Yeah. Dave 52:58 Durkin, Marion Brooke. Sarah 53:01 I need the hint, please. Dave 53:02 All right, your shows are Only Murders in the Building. And the Gilded Age. Who are the actors? Sarah 53:11 Oh, right, shit. Um, it's Meryl Streep and Oh Witchgummer Mamie Gummer wrong gummer Santiago 53:25 It's the secret gummer. Tara 53:26 She's no gummer at all. Dave 53:27 Yeah, no gum involved. Santiago 53:28 Louisa Jacobson. Dave 53:29 Yes, that is correct. Tara 53:29 Yep Dave 53:31 Yes. Sarah 53:31 Okay Dave 53:32 All right. Santiago 53:32 The Secret Gummer. Dave 53:33 Back to Santiago. We got Connie Conehead, Ava Daniels. Santiago 53:39 Oh, okay. Um, that's Hannah Einbinder in Hacks. Dave 53:45 And Santiago 53:48 It's Saturday Night Live Dave 53:50 Three points. The actor playing Connie Conehead on Saturday Night Live. Santiago 53:56 I don't know her mother's name. Um I I don't know. Dave 54:01 Okay, anybody want that one? Santiago 54:01 I don't have it. Dave 54:02 No, no steel meal? Tara 54:03 Mm-mm. Dave 54:04 But who? Tara 54:04 Oh, Lorene Newman. Dave 54:05 Lorraine Newman is one you want it. Tara 54:10 Yeah. Dave 54:10 Paula Langley Tara 54:11 Mm-hmm. Dave 54:12 Anne Reinking Tara 54:14 Okay, that one is Margaret Qually in Fossey Verden And I'm gonna guess the other is Andy McDowell in The Way Home? Shit! Dave 54:25 No, we haven't had a sweep yet that was made, made Tara 54:28 MAID! Dave 54:28 as an I will clean your house for you. Tara 54:30 Yes, I watched it. I d Dave 54:32 All right, Sarah, Alan Brady, Michael Stivik Tara 54:32 forgot her name Sarah 54:33 Yeah. Alan Brady, Michael Stivick. Dave 54:42 Yeah. Sarah 54:42 This is gonna bug me, but I do need the hint. Dave 54:44 Oh, okay. Your shows are The Dick Van Dyke Show and All in the Family Sarah 54:51 Oh, Carl and Rob Reiner Dave 54:56 You are correct. Two points. We are back to Santiago. We have got Maya Norris Chanel number three. That is a character name. Santiago 55:06 Okay. Um Dave 55:08 Mia, Maya, not sure. Santiago 55:09 Chanel. Dave 55:10 Norris Chanel, number Santiago 55:11 Chanel number three is Dave 55:13 three. Santiago 55:13 from Scream Queens Dave 55:15 Yes, nice pull. Santiago 55:18 Um which one was Chanel number three? Dave 55:23 This is how you triangulate. He's doing the work. He's showing his work. Santiago 55:26 Yeah. I think oh god, is is it is it girly pop from Little Miss Sunshine? Um Dave 55:36 Gonna have to call in time soon. Santiago 55:38 Um, so what was the other character? I'm gonna I'm gonna start there. Dave 55:40 Me and Norris, my Noris. Santiago 55:42 Mayanoris. Dave 55:43 Yeah. Santiago 55:44 Okay. Um Dave 55:46 Got one point Santiago 55:46 I don't have it. Dave 55:47 All right, three points on the board. Nobody stealing mailing. Okay, we have Carrie Fisher in catastrophe as Norris. Chanel number three, Billy Lorde, her Santiago 55:58 Billy's Sarah 55:58 Oh, right. Santiago 55:59 Oh my god, it's the other one. Dave 55:59 daughter. Santiago 56:00 Yeah. Sarah 56:02 Right. Tara 56:02 Yep. Dave 56:02 Mike Nelson and Dan Chase Tara 56:07 Hmm. Hint Dave 56:12 Your shows are Sea Hunt Tara 56:16 Okay. Dave 56:16 and The Old Man. Who are the actors? Tara 56:20 The actors are Lloyd Bridges and Jeff Bridges Dave 56:24 Yes, ironically, Jeff Bridges is the old man. Sarah. Sarah 56:29 Yep Dave 56:30 Patty and Kathy Lane, that's your first one. Bob Newby. Sarah 56:38 Patty and Kathy Lane Dave 56:41 Yeah. Patty and Kathy Lane, and Bob Newby Actors portraying them the shows those characters are from maximum four points here. Sarah 56:50 Um newbie. Um no geez Uh all right, is the first one Patty Duke on the Patty Duke show? Dave 57:00 Two boys. Sarah 57:01 Bob New I don't actually know the show, but let's just guess. Is this Sean Aston? On Stranger Things? Dave 57:10 That 's our first sweep. Tara 57:11 Oh Dave 57:12 That's Sarah 57:12 Holy shit! Dave 57:12 four point Santiago 57:12 Yay. Dave 57:12 answer. Tara 57:13 , Dave 57:13 Nice. Sarah 57:14 Never watched any of these. Hello. Dave 57:17 Santiago, you've got Johnny Rose, Thomas Malloy. Santiago 57:22 Okay, um I'm gonna go Shits Creek, Eugene Levy, um, Dan Levy Dave 57:31 Three points Santiago 57:32 Uh and what was what was Dave 57:34 Thomas Malloy Santiago 57:36 Thomas Malloy, um what other show was Dan Levy in? Dave 57:42 That is the question. Santiago 57:43 That is the question. Uh Dave 57:47 Can he sweep? Santiago 57:50 um Dave 57:50 He's got the rock. He's ready for the layup. Santiago 57:53 Law and Order S V U Dave 57:56 We're looking for sex Sarah 57:56 I love that guest though. Dave 57:58 education. Sex education. Santiago 58:00 Sure. Sarah 58:01 Yeah Santiago 58:02 It is it unreasonable to think that he might have appeared on SVU at one point. Tara 58:06 No. Sarah 58:06 No, it's entering Santiago 58:07 Yeah. Sarah 58:08 season two hundred and sixty-one, so Dave 58:09 Yeah, who hasn't been on it at this point? Sarah 58:11 exactly Tara 58:12 Yep. Dave 58:12 Brenda Lee Johnson, Carrie Tara 58:14 Mm-hmm. Dave 58:15 Layton. Tara 58:15 Okay, Brenda Lee Johnson is Kira Sedgwick in The Closer. And I'm gonna guess her the other is Sozie Bacon. In Oh my god, what was that stupid show called? Ugh, the one with Tim Robbins. I can't remember what it was called. If it's that Dave 58:35 No, I think Sarah knows. Sarah 58:36 Manson girls. Dave 58:37 No, not. Sarah 58:39 Oh. Dave 58:40 Mayor of East Town. Tara 58:41 Oh Sarah 58:42 Oh, yeah. Tara 58:42 I didn't know she was in that. Sarah 58:43 Good for her. Dave 58:43 Sarah, you've got Sonny Crockett, Sonny Crockett, and Kate Fox. Sarah 58:44 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay, uh that's Don Johnson on Miami Vice. Dave 58:53 Two points. Sarah 58:56 Kate Fox Dave 58:58 Kate Fox. Kate with a K Sarah 59:00 Uh yeah. Dave 59:02 Do you know the actor? Sarah 59:04 I mean, is it Dakota Johnson? Dave 59:07 Three points. Tara 59:08 You 're never gonna get this Sarah 59:09 On the fantastic Mrs. Fox. Tara 59:12 Oh my god, you did! Sarah 59:12 I don't I don't know. Tara 59:13 Just kidding, that's not it. Dave 59:14 What is it, Tara? Tara 59:15 Ben and Kate. Dave 59:16 Ben Santiago 59:16 Benicate Dave 59:17 and Kate, yes. Tara 59:18 Sad, very tragic, cancelled too soon. Dave 59:21 That was pretty funny. Tara 59:21 Sitcom. It was a really good show. Dave 59:22 Yeah. Santiago 59:22 That w that was the uh father-daughter duo I was waiting for. Dave 59:25 Uh Tara 59:26 Yeah Dave 59:26 well, Picky Tara 59:27 , Dave 59:28 did not smile on you. Santiago 59:29 Ah Dave 59:29 Let's see if he does with this one though. Santiago 59:29 well. Tara 59:31 it's a little bit Dave 59:31 Walter White, Ophelia Tara 59:31 of a Dave 59:33 Mayer are your characters. Or Meyer. M-A-Y-E-R. Santiago 59:38 Ophelia Mayer. Dave 59:38 Mayor. Santiago 59:39 Okay, um we'll we'll start off with uh Brian Cranston Dave 59:42 Correct? Santiago 59:42 in Breaking Bad. Dave 59:43 You are two points? The Nepo Baby Santiago 59:49 Uh what was the character's name? Something Mayer? Ophelia Mayer. Did not know Brian Cranson had uh Sure. Dave 59:58 I mean I'm asking the group. Everybody will get a silly hint. Sarah 01:00:01 Sure Dave 01:00:02 Okay, here we go. Your hint is there is a slash in the title. A slash. Santiago 01:00:07 If slash when Dave 01:00:09 No. Incorrect. Anybody know it? Tara 01:00:11 Yeah. Dave 01:00:12 What is it? Tara 01:00:13 It's Taylor Deardon in sweet slash vicious. Dave 01:00:16 Yes, that is the correct pair. Sweet slash vicious. Alright, this is for Tara. We'll take us into a score Santiago 01:00:23 If Slash Line is a real show, right? Tara 01:00:23 Okay. Dave 01:00:23 break. Santiago 01:00:25 I didn't make that up. Tara 01:00:25 It was in Broadway show. Santiago 01:00:27 Oh. Dave 01:00:28 Partial credit. Sarah 01:00:28 So, yes. Dave 01:00:29 Mackenzie McHale, Tara, Lachlan Tara 01:00:31 Yep. Dave 01:00:33 Ratliff Tara 01:00:34 That's Emily Mortimer in the newsroom And Sarah 01:00:39 Oh picky Tara 01:00:41 Navola in the White Lotus Dave 01:00:45 Only give you one point in that looking for Sam Nigbola, Sam. Tara 01:00:49 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:00:49 Alright. Tara 01:00:50 Well, in Jeopardy they would have given me that, but this isn't Jeopardy. Dave 01:00:52 Yeah, well it's about Nepo babies. We're we're we're not just accepting last Tara 01:00:55 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:00:56 names. Tara 01:00:57 Right. Dave 01:00:57 So cram it up your socket with walnuts. Tara 01:00:59 Okay, well they don't have the same last name, but that's fine. Sarah 01:01:01 That was an incandescently twatty response to uh Dave 01:01:05 It's not. Sarah 01:01:06 minor Dave 01:01:06 You guys are bagging on me for shit you should have Sarah 01:01:06 scoring. Dave 01:01:08 known. Tara 01:01:09 All right. Santiago has eleven points. Sarah and I are tied with thirteen each. Dave 01:01:14 I hate both of you and I love you, Santiago. Tara 01:01:16 I Dave 01:01:17 You're the best. Tara 01:01:17 know, I know. Dave 01:01:17 Sarah D Bunting, Damon Santiago 01:01:19 I love you too, Dave. Dave 01:01:20 , Damon Fulton, Brad Williams. I hope you get nothing Sarah 01:01:26 Well, you're halfway to your hope, because I need a hint. Dave 01:01:29 Okay. Your shows are Papa 's House and Happy Endings Once again, your character names are Damon Fulton and Brad Williams. There is your silly hint. Tara 01:01:42 Yeah, it's it Sarah 01:01:45 Uh Dave 01:01:46 You watch Happy Endings? Sarah 01:01:48 yes, I did. Tara 01:01:48 's Sarah 01:01:49 Damon Wayans Tara 01:01:50 a little bit more than a lot of people. Dave 01:01:51 That's one of 'em. Tara 01:01:52 Don't overthink it. Sarah 01:01:53 This is where I always run into trouble. Don't what 'd you say? Tara 01:01:57 I said Sarah 01:01:57 Don't overthink it? Tara 01:01:58 don't overthink it Dave 01:01:58 Yeah. Sarah 01:01:59 Alright. Well then uh my guess will be Damon Ways Dave 01:02:02 Yes, correct two points. Sarah 01:02:02 Jr. Dave 01:02:05 All right, this is question seventeen. Tara 01:02:06 Screen up Santiago 01:02:07 Spaniels Dave 01:02:07 For Santiago, you got Elaine Bennis, Andrew Fuller. Santiago 01:02:13 Okay. Um we've got Seinfeld, Julie Louis Dreyfus. Dave 01:02:18 Two points. What about Andrew Fuller, the Nepo Santiago 01:02:23 What about Andrew Fuller? Dave 01:02:23 baby? Santiago 01:02:26 I'm gonna go with Sarah 01:02:27 Yeah, fuck that guy. Santiago 01:02:28 um The Summer I Turned Pretty. Dave 01:02:31 No, but you can still guess the actor name if you know it. Santiago 01:02:34 Paul Louis Dreyfus Tara 01:02:37 I wish. Sarah 01:02:38 Julius Lewis Tryfus Dave 01:02:40 I think you watched this Tara, right? Tara 01:02:42 Well, the sun is ch it's Charlie Hall, right? Dave 01:02:44 Yeah, uh huh. Tara 01:02:46 I don't remember which it's Sex Lives of S of College Girls? Dave 01:02:49 Yep, that's the one. Tara 01:02:49 Okay. Because he was also in um Dave 01:02:50 Yep. Tara 01:02:51 Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed this year. Dave 01:02:53 Dara, Julia Barnes, and Tara 01:02:54 Yes. Mm-hmm. Dave 01:02:56 Perkins Tara 01:02:58 Hmm. Okay, uh Ann Perkins is Rashida Jones in Parks and Recreation And her mother is Peggy Lipton. Twin Peaks? No! Mod Squad, Mod Squad! Fuck. Dave 01:03:14 Sorry, I already Tara 01:03:16 That's okay. Dave 01:03:16 buzzed you on Twin Peaks, but Mod Squad was correct. Tara 01:03:16 It's okay. Dave 01:03:19 All right, this is for Serity Bunting. It is question 19. You've got Betsy Stewart, Huey Campbell. Sarah 01:03:32 Betsy Stewart Dave 01:03:33 Huh. Did not know that piece of information. Sarah 01:03:36 Okay. Um, I hope Huey Campbell is Jack Quaid on the boys. What was the character's name? Dave 01:03:45 Betsy Sarah 01:03:45 Doesn't really matter. Dave 01:03:46 Stewart Sarah 01:03:48 Okay, yeah, that that helps. Um, I hope that's Meg Ryan on a soap opera Tara 01:03:56 Yeah, but which one? Sarah 01:03:57 called As the world turns. Dave 01:04:00 Yes. Tara 01:04:00 Whoa. Sarah 01:04:01 What Santiago 01:04:02 Yay! Sarah 01:04:04 holy Dave 01:04:04 A sweep, nicely done Sarah 01:04:04 shit Tara 01:04:05 Well done. Sarah 01:04:07 Well Santiago 01:04:08 I uh yeah, I was just about to say, uh I think Jack Quaid also hopes it's Meg Ryan. Sarah 01:04:09 Who Dave 01:04:15 Jackie Harris is your first character, and Mary Cooper. There she is. Santiago 01:04:23 Jackie Harris, Mary Cooper Dave 01:04:25 Yeah. If you need a hint, I will give you the shows. Santiago 01:04:27 Yeah, can I get a hint, please? Dave 01:04:28 Alright, you get three shows here. Roseanne slash slash the Connors And Santiago 01:04:33 Oh Dave 01:04:33 Young Sheldon. Jackie Harris from Roseanne and the Connors. Mary Cooper from Young Sheldon. We need the actors. Santiago 01:04:43 Okay, um is oh god, what is her name? Oh my mind is blanking. I can see her face Dave 01:04:50 No, describe it in detail. Santiago 01:04:52 She's got a nose and a couple of eyes Dave 01:04:55 Yeah. Sarah 01:04:55 Yeah Tara 01:04:55 As far as we know, at press Santiago 01:04:56 up. Dave 01:04:57 She has been on a show that you've answered previously. Tara 01:04:57 time Santiago 01:05:00 I know Dave 01:05:01 Okay. So you have experience with this person Santiago 01:05:05 Yeah, and it's it's going to kill me, um, because I I Dave 01:05:08 Yeah. Santiago 01:05:09 it I'm not pulling it. Dave 01:05:10 Hmm. Alright, two two points on the board. If anybody wants to steal meal, no. We're looking for Lori Metcalf, the parent, Zoe Santiago 01:05:17 Yes. Dave 01:05:18 Perry on Young Sheldon. Sarah 01:05:20 Oh, okay. Oh, Augusta Gain herself. Dave 01:05:23 Tara Tara 01:05:24 Yep. Dave 01:05:24 Doc Cochran, Cassie McKay Tara 01:05:29 Cassie McKay is Fiona Doriff in the pit Dave 01:05:33 Which means Tara 01:05:34 Uh Doc Cochrane is Brad Dorf in Deadwood. Dave 01:05:39 Yes, four-point sweep. Nicely done. Back to Sarah, Professor Maggie Walsh, and Santiago 01:05:42 Nice Dave 01:05:45 Shoshana Shapiro. Sarah 01:05:49 Holy shit. Okay. Dave 01:05:51 Let me give you another hint. I you've already got your hint, but I'm gonna give you a bonus one because you're great. I want you to pronounce the parent's second name a certain way as a joke. Sarah 01:06:00 I know you do. Dave 01:06:01 Okay, great. Sarah 01:06:03 Because that's Lindsay Carlsa Dave 01:06:05 Okay, great. Sarah 01:06:06 on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Dave 01:06:07 Yes. Sarah 01:06:09 And Zosha Mammoth on girls Dave 01:06:13 Four points, yes. Tara 01:06:14 Noise Dave 01:06:15 Alright, this is question 22. 8 to 22. 8, which we recently learned is the actual average enlisted age of a soldier in Vietnam, not 19. Santiago 01:06:26 Vital information for everyone to have. Tara 01:06:27 Mmm. Dave 01:06:28 Try again, Hardcastle. Santiago, your characters are Denise Huxtable, Robin with a Y, Robin Brooks Denise Huxtable, Robin Brooks. Once a parent, one's a Neppo baby. And Weshows Santiago 01:06:44 I have not I have not watched this show since the nineties. Dave 01:06:46 Let me give you a hint. Exciting hint for you. Santiago 01:06:48 Yes. Dave 01:06:49 You ready for your exciting hint? It's the same hint you had before. Santiago 01:06:51 Yes. Dave 01:06:52 There is a slash in the answer because there's two shows for the parent. Sarah 01:06:58 Oh yeah Santiago 01:06:59 Oh, okay. Um yeah, uh well um the Cosby show, first of all. Dave 01:07:03 You 're good Santiago 01:07:04 Um and then I guess would the other show be a different world? Dave 01:07:08 Well that's the same answer. Tara 01:07:09 Yes Dave 01:07:10 That's that's Santiago 01:07:10 Oh yeah, yeah. Dave 01:07:10 that's the pair. Yeah. One of those actors was on both those shows. There's another show in play Tara 01:07:15 , Dave 01:07:16 Denise Huxtable and Robin Brooks. You got the two actors and the second show on the table still. So do you know who played Denise Huxtable? Santiago 01:07:28 No. Dave 01:07:29 This is gonna make it hard. Santiago 01:07:29 Sorry. I know, I know. Um Dave 01:07:33 Do you know who is on the Cosby show? And you can just throw a name out there. Santiago 01:07:35 Bill Cosby Dave 01:07:36 Oh Bill Cosby. Haven't heard that name in a while on this podcast. That is incorrect. Alright. I think I'm gonna call on this one. I don't think you're anywhere near it. Santiago 01:07:45 Yeah, I know, I'm nowhere near it. Dave 01:07:45 Uh we've got two pieces, three pieces information. Denise Huxable played by Lisa Bonnet on The Cosby Show and A Different World. Her daughter Zoe Kravitz in High Fidelity is where we saw Robin Brooks. Sarah 01:07:59 Oh, okay. Dave 01:07:59 Tara. Tara 01:08:00 Yeah. Dave 01:08:00 Kip Wilson and Greg Short are your characters. Tara 01:08:05 Shows, please. Dave 01:08:06 You've got boozin' buddies Tara 01:08:09 Uh-huh. Dave 01:08:09 and life in pieces Tara 01:08:13 Okay, that's Tom Hanks. Dave 01:08:15 And Tara 01:08:16 Colin Hanks. Dave 01:08:17 what was the other one, the the Goomba guy? Tara 01:08:19 Chet Hayes. Dave 01:08:20 Chat hacks, yeah Tara 01:08:21 He's from yes, he's from Running Point Dave 01:08:22 Yeah. Right. All right. Nicely done. Two points. Back to Sarah. You've got Jack Tripper and Julian Markston. Jack Tripper. Sarah 01:08:33 Julian Markston. Okay. Jack Tripper is John Ritter on Three 's Company. Dave 01:08:39 All right, two points now. The Nepo baby and the show. Sarah 01:08:44 Um, it's Jason Ritter. Dave 01:08:47 On. I also want you to say this in a particular way. Tara 01:08:51 Oh Sarah 01:08:52 What was the character name again? Dave 01:08:54 It was Julian with a J. Sarah 01:08:56 Mark. Tara 01:08:56 , Dave 01:08:57 Julian. Sarah 01:08:58 Julian Markston? Dave 01:08:59 Yeah, Markson ends with an N. Sarah 01:09:00 Okay. Dave 01:09:01 Markstun. Sarah 01:09:03 I can't imagine that i you want me to say Joan of Arcadia, but that's the only show that I can remember it from, so Joan of Arcadia Dave 01:09:13 No. Sarah 01:09:14 Different strokes. Dave 01:09:14 That is Met Log Tara 01:09:17 Man Santiago 01:09:17 Matlock. Tara 01:09:17 luck. Sarah 01:09:19 Oh, okay, right. Santiago 01:09:20 The new one Tara 01:09:21 The new one Sarah 01:09:21 Shit. Dave 01:09:21 Yeah. Sarah 01:09:22 Good for him. Dave 01:09:23 We got Frager Crane, and I don't know, I'm Frajer Crane, and Pacey Cartwright. Those are your characters. Santiago 01:09:31 Okay, Kelsey Grammar On Frager. Dave 01:09:36 Thank you. Santiago 01:09:36 Flash Cheers. Dave 01:09:37 Yep. Santiago 01:09:38 Um, who was Kelsey Grammar 's kid? What was the character's name? Dave 01:09:43 Pacey Cartwright Santiago 01:09:45 Pacey Cartwright. Grammar, grammar, hang on, grammar. Dave 01:09:54 Call you on time on that one. Anybody know it? Santiago 01:09:55 Yeah. Tara 01:09:56 Spencer grammar and Greek Dave 01:09:57 That is the correct answer. Spencer Grammar Greek. Alright, Tara. Tara 01:10:02 Yes. Dave 01:10:04 You're doing good, I think. Tara, we're gonna need a scorebreak after this one. Sarah 01:10:06 Yeah Tara 01:10:06 Yes. Dave 01:10:08 We're almost done. Tara 01:10:08 Uh huh Dave 01:10:09 We've got Stanrich Gilchrist Tara 01:10:12 Sure. Dave 01:10:13 and Major, Major, Major, Major. Tara 01:10:17 Give me the shows, please. Santiago 01:10:17 No Dave 01:10:18 The shows Santiago 01:10:18 , Tara 01:10:19 Yeah. Dave 01:10:19 are Sixteen Hundred Pen Tara 01:10:21 Uh-huh. Dave 01:10:22 and Catch Twenty Two Tara 01:10:24 Oh, of course. That's Bill Pullman. And Lewis Pullman Dave 01:10:29 You are correct. Yes, two-point answer there. Everybody has one question left, so we need the scores. Tara 01:10:34 Okay, Santiago has 16. Dave 01:10:37 See? Tara 01:10:38 I have 24. Sarah D. Bunting in the lead. 26. Dave 01:10:43 Oh Tara 01:10:43 Sarah, do you concur? Dave 01:10:44 exciting. Sarah 01:10:44 Oh, yes, I concur. Dave 01:10:47 All right Sarah D. Bunding, here comes your last question. You've got Chris Peterson, Natalie Berzotto. Berzotto. It's a nice last name. Sarah 01:11:00 Peterson. That doesn't help me, and I don't remember. I mean, I know that Natalie Berzotto is from The Bear. Dave 01:11:08 Okay, that's one point. You've now pot committed to answering them all. Sarah 01:11:14 And that actor's name escapes me. So Dave 01:11:19 Yeah, that other one's tough. Sarah 01:11:19 I don't Dave 01:11:20 Chris Peterson's a tough pull. Sarah 01:11:21 yeah. Dave 01:11:22 If you don't know the Sarah 01:11:23 So I'm gonna say Dave 01:11:24 people. Sarah 01:11:25 that um that's uh Governor Gatling from Benson. Dave 01:11:32 Well, all right. Can I buzz you on the rest? Sarah 01:11:34 Yeah, man. Yeah. Dave 01:11:38 Anybody want to steal Millie's? No? Okay. Chris Peterson played by Chris Elliott on Get A Life. His daughter Abby Elliott from The Bear. Sarah 01:11:47 Oh my god, I had no idea. Holy shit. Tara 01:11:49 Oh, really? Sarah 01:11:50 Yeah, no. Dave 01:11:52 Alright. Sarah 01:11:52 Good for her Dave 01:11:54 Santiago, last question. Sam Fox. Our second fox of the game, I believe. Tallulas Stiel. Tallula Stiel. Santiago 01:12:05 I'm immediately gonna need a hint. Dave 01:12:06 All right, you've got Better Things and I Love LA. Santiago 01:12:11 Oh, okay. Um this is God, how do you pronounce her last name? Odessa Avalon, whatever, yeah. Dave 01:12:20 Nah that's close enough. Santiago 01:12:21 Uh Dave 01:12:21 A Zion? Santiago 01:12:22 uh Tara 01:12:22 Yeah Dave 01:12:23 Yeah. Santiago 01:12:23 Azion, yeah. Uh and then is it Pamela Ablon? Dave 01:12:26 Yes Tara 01:12:27 Nicely done. Dave 01:12:27 two Sarah 01:12:27 Nice Dave 01:12:28 points Tara, you're three points behind. Tara 01:12:29 Yep. Mm-hmm. Dave 01:12:31 If you can sweep it, you win. Here we go. Tara 01:12:34 Okay Dave 01:12:35 Lois Salmon, Travis Bug. Tara 01:12:39 Mmm, Travis Bug. Is that Chet Hayes slash Hanks from running point Okay. Sarah 01:12:48 Nice Tara 01:12:50 That would make his mother Rita Wilson. Dave 01:12:52 Okay, you're now tied. Tara 01:12:53 Oh my god, what's the sh what's the what's the name? Dave 01:12:57 Lois salmon or salmon Tara 01:13:01 The good wife Dave 01:13:03 Oh , we got a tie. Santiago 01:13:05 Oh Sarah 01:13:06 Oh Dave 01:13:07 All right. Sarah 01:13:08 would have been my guess too. What was it? Dave 01:13:10 Too much. Remember too much Tara 01:13:12 Oh yeah, of course. Sarah 01:13:12 No, not enough Tara 01:13:14 The other Lena Dunham Santiago 01:13:15 Never enough. Dave 01:13:16 Yeah, with uh what's Tara 01:13:16 show Sarah 01:13:17 Oh, right. Dave 01:13:18 or nuts Sarah 01:13:18 Yes. Dave 01:13:19 from Sarah 01:13:19 Sure, sure, sure. Tara 01:13:19 Yes, Meghan Dave 01:13:20 uh Tara 01:13:20 Stalter. Dave 01:13:21 hacks. Sarah 01:13:22 Mm-hmm Tara 01:13:22 Yep. Dave 01:13:22 Yeah. Okay, final regulation scores. I know there's a tie. Tara 01:13:26 There sure is. Santiago has eighteen points and Sarah and I are tied with twenty-seven each Dave 01:13:33 This is a tricky tiebreaker, so I am going to resort to headphones off, and then you're each gonna answer the question separately. Tara 01:13:39 Okay. Dave 01:13:39 Okay, so Tara, take your headphones off. Sarah, I want you to give me as many pieces of information as you can. You can still ask for a hint if you need to go that way. Sarah 01:13:48 Okay. Dave 01:13:49 Victor Curiakiss Sarah 01:13:51 Karaokis. Dave 01:13:52 Alex Levy Sarah 01:13:55 Okay. Alex Levy is Jennifer Aniston On uh the morning show. And Victor Kyriakis, oh Dave 01:14:06 Kyriakus, thank you. Sarah 01:14:06 fuck Kyriakis, yeah. Dave 01:14:08 All right. Great. Sarah 01:14:09 I oh my god, which fucking soap was he a gangster on? Because I'm not gonna get the first name. I hope and pray that he was on Days of Our Lives. Dave 01:14:20 Three points. Sarah 01:14:21 Okay, and then his Dave 01:14:24 I would I would throw out a guess, because I think it is random guessable. Sarah 01:14:24 first name. Oh my god. Um, it's one of two things. Li fuck it. John Aniston. Oh, was it the other one? Dave 01:14:37 Correct. Sarah 01:14:39 What? Oh shit. Thank you, soap Dave 01:14:41 All right Sarah 01:14:42 operas. Thank you, my grandmother soap operas. Dave 01:14:44 Alright, Tara Sarah 01:14:44 Alright. Do I need to be headphones off? Dave 01:14:45 's No, you're good. Yeah, you knew everything already. Sarah 01:14:47 Okay. Dave 01:14:48 Alright, Tara, do you want to know how many you need to get or you just want to go in blind? Tara 01:14:51 I'll go in blind. Dave 01:14:52 Okay. Sarah's gonna say the last name on the first one because I've already forgotten. Victor Tara 01:14:57 Uh-huh. Sarah 01:14:57 Kiriatis Dave 01:14:58 Victor Tara 01:14:59 Uh-huh. Dave 01:14:59 Kyriakis, Alex Levy. Tara 01:15:00 Yep. Okay. Alex Levy is Jennifer Aniston in the morning show. Dave 01:15:05 Yep Tara 01:15:06 Victor Kyriakis is John Aniston in Days of Our Lives. Dave 01:15:12 Fuck. Sarah 01:15:15 Holy shit. Dave 01:15:15 We have it a continuing tie. Tara 01:15:16 Oh my God. Dave 01:15:18 I have another tiebreaker. Tara 01:15:19 Okay. Dave 01:15:20 So Sarah 01:15:20 No, no. Dave 01:15:21 let 's we'll do it the opposite way this time. Tara 01:15:22 Okay. Dave 01:15:23 Okay, so Sarah off. Letitia Darling. Sister Mary Eunice McKee. Tara 01:15:32 Shows, uh, yeah Dave 01:15:33 Dirty Sexy Money, American Horror Story Asylum Tara 01:15:42 Is that um Jill Clayburg Dave 01:15:49 Yes. Tara 01:15:49 Okay, and the daughter is Lily Rabe. Dave 01:15:52 You are correct. You got two points. Tara 01:15:53 Okay. Dave 01:15:54 Alright. Tara 01:15:54 Okay. I mean I can listen Dave 01:15:56 Yeah, you can listen. Sarah D bunting. Do you want to know how many you need or you just want going blind? Sarah 01:16:02 I wanna know how many I need. Dave 01:16:04 She got two. You need three. If it's a tie, I don't know what's gonna happen because I'm out of questions. Sarah 01:16:06 Okay. Okay. Santiago 01:16:10 I can Dave 01:16:10 Okay. Santiago 01:16:10 come up with one Dave 01:16:11 Okay, great. Excellent. Okay. Letitia Darling is your first character. Your second character is Sister Mary Sarah 01:16:17 Yeah Dave 01:16:19 Eunice McKee. Sarah 01:16:22 Eunice McKee, Letitia Dave 01:16:26 Darling. Sarah 01:16:27 Darling Dave 01:16:28 Sister Sarah 01:16:29 is Dave 01:16:29 Mary Eunice McKee Sarah 01:16:31 Uh-huh. Letitia Darling, I okay, well, let's just blunder in. Dave 01:16:35 Okay, before you answer, I just want to remind you, you start answering you're pot committed. You can't ask for a hint after. Sarah 01:16:39 Yes, I understand. Dave 01:16:40 Got Sarah 01:16:41 Dirty Sexy Money is the show And that is Jill Clayburg Dave 01:16:49 One more, and you win. Sister Mary Eunice McKee Sarah 01:16:53 Sister Dave 01:16:54 still looking for the actor and the show there. If you don't get 'em, we gotta go to City I'll go for a tiebreaker. Sarah 01:17:02 Santiago, um start start drafting Santiago 01:17:06 Easy Sarah 01:17:08 I don't know. I mean, I'm gonna kick myself because I do know the actor, I think, and I actually don't know the show either, so let's just guess um that it's uh Oh my god, what was the name of that thing? Uh, Handmaid's Tale. Dave 01:17:28 Still got the actor, the Nepo baby here. Sarah 01:17:32 J Gillette Clayburg. Dave 01:17:35 Alright, we got another tie. Sarah 01:17:36 I know that's not it. Dave 01:17:37 Do you actually have something we can use here? Tara 01:17:39 The answer, Sarah, is Lily Rabe in American Horror Story. Dave 01:17:42 Yep. Sarah 01:17:44 I'm so sorry. Santiago 01:17:47 Um yeah, just give me give me Dave 01:17:49 Yeah, we're gonna give him a moment Santiago 01:17:49 uh two minutes. Dave 01:17:51 here. Alright, we'll just pause. This is exciting! Sarah 01:17:52 So sorry, everyone. This never happens Dave 01:17:57 It never happens. I do have some leftovers from other if we get another tie I I can in theory. Sarah 01:18:02 I mean I could come up with one, but that's not really helpful. Dave 01:18:04 That's not. Santiago 01:18:04 Yeah, that doesn't help. Dave 01:18:07 Okay, so I'm handing it over for our third tiebreaker. Take it away, Santiago. Santiago 01:18:14 This is exciting. Dave 01:18:15 Alright, so first you need to tell them the two character names. Santiago 01:18:16 Okay. Right. Okay. The two characters are Chief Marshall Simon Fry. And Leona Lansing Dave 01:18:28 All right, so Sarah D. Bunting, you have the character names. Sarah 01:18:32 I meant Dave 01:18:32 All right, Sarah doing some thinking. Sarah 01:18:33 for my Dave 01:18:34 So much is at stake. Our first, I believe, triple tiebreaker in podcast history. Sarah 01:18:38 I think I think that's correct. Leona Lansing Well, look, in the interest of moving this along, I need the hint. Dave 01:18:47 Okay. So you want to give them the two shows Santiago 01:18:51 Your two shows are The Newsroom and The Deputy. Sarah 01:18:57 The newsroom and the deputy Uh deputy. Um Chief Marshal Simon Fry on the was on the newsroom, which I did not watch. Fry. Dave 01:19:12 The stakes have never been higher. Sarah 01:19:14 I don't know either of these. Is one of the oh my god, what is that guy's name? Fucking Flat Horton. Jeff Daniels? Is that one of them? No? Okay, then I won't know the other one, so Dave 01:19:28 Alright. Alright, Tara, do you want to know the your sitch or you just want to go in blind? Tara 01:19:33 Yeah. Dave 01:19:33 Alright, going blind. Alright. Take it away Santiago 01:19:35 All right. Tara, your characters are Chief Marshal Simon Fry and Leona Lansing. Tara 01:19:43 I'll take the shows, please. Santiago 01:19:47 The newsroom and the deputy Dave 01:19:52 No Tara 01:19:52 The deputy. Dave 01:19:53 bad no Tara 01:19:54 Okay, is it Sam Watterston and Catherine Watterston? Santiago 01:19:57 No. Tara 01:19:58 No. Dave 01:19:59 Oh my God. Okay. Tara 01:20:01 We're still tied? Dave 01:20:02 We're still tied Tara 01:20:02 Okay, what is the answer? Sarah 01:20:02 Yes. I go Santiago 01:20:04 That's the Fondas, Jane and Henry. Sarah 01:20:05 to Tara 01:20:06 Oh Sarah 01:20:08 fuck Dave 01:20:08 All right, give me a sec. I got I got something else. Oh god, I have to actually turn on the hard drive to make to get the uh original Sarah 01:20:15 This is like that um WPkinsella book where the baseball game goes on for two thousand innings In a time Santiago 01:20:23 Henry Fonda, not in a ton of recognizable TV shows. Sarah 01:20:24 warp. Tara 01:20:26 Mm, well, that makes sense for the time. Dave 01:20:27 All right. Sarah 01:20:30 Yes, it does. Dave 01:20:31 Actually, why don't we just uh Grossworth Equalizer challenge this with uh Tara 01:20:36 Okay. Dave 01:20:36 trivial proceed stuff? Tara 01:20:37 Sure. Dave 01:20:37 Okay. Alright, we've decided to decide this with some Grossworth Equalizer Challenge Zone style trivia pursuit answers. We're gonna go back and forth. Whoever gets the advantage out of the pairs of questions wins the game. So if you answer wrong, Sarah, and then Tara answers right, Tara wins. That's how it works, right? Sarah 01:20:57 Okay. Tara 01:20:58 Okay, good Sarah 01:20:58 Yep, spelling B Tara 01:20:59 luck Sarah 01:20:59 knockout. Got it. Good luck, Tara. Dave 01:21:01 All right, classics. What comic is credited with motivating the most sales of TVs during the fifties. Sarah 01:21:11 I don't fucking know, Jackie Gleason Dave 01:21:14 Jackie Gleason is incorrect Sarah 01:21:17 Okay. Dave 01:21:17 opening up Tara for the win. Sarah 01:21:19 Please Tara 01:21:19 Phil Silvers? Sarah 01:21:19 send it. Dave 01:21:20 No no no no you don't answer this one. Tara 01:21:22 Oh. Dave 01:21:22 It was Milton Burrow. Tara 01:21:23 Oh, okay. Dave 01:21:24 Yep. Sarah 01:21:24 Oh, of course, Mr. Television, right Dave 01:21:27 Siccoms. Tara 01:21:28 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:21:29 What hunk did brainy Jane Hathaway pine for on the Beverly Hillbillies? Tara 01:21:34 Jethro. Dave 01:21:35 Jethro who Tara 01:21:37 Clamp it Dave 01:21:38 Bodine. Tara 01:21:39 Oh. Dave 01:21:40 Tara Tara 01:21:40 Okay. Sarah 01:21:40 Oh Dave 01:21:41 uh Sarah 01:21:41 God. Dave 01:21:41 Sarah. Santiago 01:21:42 Oh my god, just give her death Sarah 01:21:43 Yes. Santiago 01:21:44 row. Sarah 01:21:45 Seriously. Dave 01:21:46 Drama. Like the stakes are too high to really like Sarah 01:21:48 This this is drama. Dave 01:21:50 Yeah. What British sci-fi series centers around a scientist and his time machine Sarah 01:21:59 I'm dying to answer different strokes, but I'm not gonna do it. Doctor Who Dave 01:22:03 Doctor Who, the pressure is now on Tara 01:22:04 Woo. Dave 01:22:05 Tara. Tara 01:22:05 Yep. Dave 01:22:06 Kids in games, you have to get this right. Tara 01:22:08 Mm-hmm Dave 01:22:10 What singing insect quartet got their own Saturday morning show in nineteen hundred and seventy. Tara 01:22:20 Insect quartet. Dave 01:22:21 Singing insect quartet. Tara 01:22:23 Uh-huh. Dave 01:22:24 Got their own Saturday morning show in the seventies. Tara 01:22:28 The Bugaloos. Dave 01:22:29 Fuck me, correct Santiago 01:22:30 Oh my God Sarah 01:22:32 What? Tara 01:22:32 Where did that even come from Sarah 01:22:33 Why do you know that? I mean, I know why you do. Oh my god. Dave 01:22:38 Stars, stars. Tara 01:22:40 They're just like us. Santiago 01:22:40 Hang on, Jordan, we can get brunch in a few minutes. Dave 01:22:44 Who did ABC pluck from 60 Minutes to co-star in Primetime Live in 1989? Who did ABC Pluck from Sixty Minutes to co-star in Primetime Live in 1989? Sarah 01:22:59 I don't know, Diane Sawyer. Dave 01:23:01 Correct. Wildcard. Sarah 01:23:03 Sorry Tara 01:23:04 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:23:05 What comedy series had announcer Gary Owens trying to keep a straight face? Tara 01:23:11 Rowan and Martin's laughing. Dave 01:23:12 God big fucking damn it. Alright, we're on our second card. Sarah 01:23:15 Oh Tara 01:23:16 My god. Sarah 01:23:16 my God. Tara 01:23:17 Santiago, you can leave if you want. Sorry. Santiago 01:23:19 No, this is so entertaining. Tara 01:23:22 Okay. Sarah 01:23:22 Oh my God Dave 01:23:23 So sitcoms to start, Sarah, what Mayberry Residents favorite magazine is True Blue Detective? True blue detective Mayberry Resident. Sarah 01:23:35 Barney Fife Dave 01:23:36 You are correct, yes. Tara, classics. Tara 01:23:39 Mm-hmm, yep. Dave 01:23:40 What classic fifties cop series averaged only one bullet fired every four shows? Tara 01:23:45 Dragnet. Dave 01:23:47 Drama. Kids and games for Sarah. What character was replaced by Bat Mite in the cartoon show The New Adventures of Batman? Bat Might replacing who? Sarah 01:24:03 Robin Tara 01:24:05 That's what I would have Dave 01:24:06 Alfred Pennyworth Tara 01:24:07 said. Ah, okay. Dave 01:24:08 and Sarah 01:24:08 Wow. Dave 01:24:09 brackets on the card, the butler Tara 01:24:11 Oh Sarah 01:24:12 Yeah. Right, Tara. Don't fuck it up. Dave 01:24:15 Drama. Drama, what's again? Tara 01:24:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dave 01:24:19 What city's memorial hospital, that's capitalized, does Trapper John MDpatrol? Tara 01:24:25 What city? Dave 01:24:26 Yep Tara 01:24:28 Los Angeles? Dave 01:24:31 San Francisco Tara 01:24:32 Fuck! Sarah 01:24:32 I would Tara 01:24:33 I was Sarah 01:24:33 have said Tara 01:24:33 close. Sarah 01:24:33 Dallas. Oh Tara 01:24:35 Oh Sarah 01:24:35 my god, we live here. Dave 01:24:36 Sarah Tara 01:24:36 my God. Dave 01:24:36 wild card. Sarah 01:24:38 Oh Dave 01:24:38 What Ivy League School beat Columbia in the first college basketball game ever televised in 1939. Sarah 01:24:45 Uh I think this actually was Princeton. Dave 01:24:48 Yep. Stars. Who's the sheriff of Orley County, Georgia? Tara 01:24:56 Andy Taylor Dave 01:24:58 Wrong, we have a winner! Tara 01:24:59 Sarah Dave 01:24:59 That's Sheriff Lobo! Thank fucking Tara 01:25:02 Sarah Dave 01:25:03 God! Santiago 01:25:04 Yeah Clip 01:25:06 Sarah. Tara 01:25:07 Sarah Clip 01:25:07 Sarah. Sarah 01:25:08 Sarah. Oh my God Dave 01:25:12 That was so much fun, yet so enraging at the same time. Santiago 01:25:17 At last, our long national nightmare is over. Dave 01:25:20 We will never be doing game time again after that. Santiago 01:25:23 Great job, Sarah. Sarah 01:25:24 In praise of old Nassau, holy shit, what an incandescently twatyy ending. Ah Dave 01:25:31 Jesus Christ. Well guys, that is it for another episode of Extra Hot Great. Sarah 01:25:33 Well done, everyone. Dave 01:25:36 We stepped into the line of fire. And after cleaning our shoes off, went around the dial with stops at The Best of the Best, Game Changer and Monster, The Lizzie Borden Story. Tara 01:25:47 And Melock Dave 01:25:48 And they're look! Sarah tipsied things in drunk history's favor to get drunk mystery into the canon. We crown winners and losers of the week. And holy shit, Sarah was the winner of this week's Santiago 01:25:58 No. Dave 01:26:00 Nepo Baby Game Time, an historic event, I'm gonna say, from Meredith. Next up, we got brothers. Santiago 01:26:04 One for the agents. Dave 01:26:06 Remember. Clip 01:26:09 We're listening. Dave 01:26:12 I'm actually a little tired now. I am David T. Cole, and on behalf of Tara Ariano Tara 01:26:18 Bring back Sheriff Lobo Dave 01:26:19 , Serbi Debunting. Sarah 01:26:22 Agatha Christie Dave 01:26:24 And San Diego Mili Hubert. Santiago 01:26:26 It's vocal fried Dave 01:26:30 Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time right here on Extra Hot Great. We gotta pay him extra for all this overtime, right? Yeah, I thought so. Sarah 01:26:39 Oh my God. Clip 01:26:42 That was Lawn Or? That was a dun dun dun. I think that's like This is creepy. Okay. Dun dun dun. Dun dun dun. Sarah 01:26:55 Incandescently twatty