The latest stars to play “themselves” in a TV comedy are Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey, riffing on (among other things) the rumor that the two have the same biological father. Listen to find out whether it made us want to kick them in the family jewels. Ask EHG set us to pondering how we would party like it’s Space: 1999 and how swapping Aaron Sorkin and Aaron Spelling would change The West Wing and Beverly Hills, 90210. Tara pitches Tracy correcting Toofer’s English usage on 30 Rock for the Tiny Comeback Canon. We name the week’s Not Quite Winners and Losers. Kim tells us whether Little House On The Prairie S04.E20 really is “A Most Precious Gift.” Finally, we slide into that old time rock ’n roll for Dave’s Risky Business-inspired Extra Credit. Put on your bull-riding helmet and join us!
Brothers? Oh Brother
Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson play “themselves.” We tell you whether we were “entertained.”
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00:00
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it, but I'm gonna do it my way. Okay. Alright, call me up. Ask me an Intro podcast You know, I understand Apple just likes to take people around, show 'em the world when they got a new show, you know. You know what I'm saying? They like to win shit. They like Monday, who doesn't, you know, so you go out there Now you gotta talk about what's this? What is this? What is the look hold on my glasses? This is a podcast called E H G. Okay. All right, all right, all right. I'm here. Okay, you know what is a podcast What is a podcast? You know, we call when you you get people in the same room and you force them to communicate, that is called family And you know whose family is Brothers. That's why I'm here to talk about Brothers, a new series from Apple TV.uh you got me. You got uh you got my buddy Woody. And, you know, he may be a brother. He's sure going on about it pretty much everywhere. And and, you know, I I I I wanna ask you, is that who you want? Walking around talking about you got the same DNA. I don't think so. You look at this man, you not, you're like, no, I want distance. I want distance categorically. I want distance euphorically Anyway, brothers, you know, y'all like entourage. Y'all like entourage, right? Y'all like y'all like behind the scenes, y'all like the studio. You know, what if I could put all of that in one thing and then give you Oscar caliber performances? 'Cause that's what you gon' get. And uh you know, and I take off my shirt. You know I do. I'm gonna do it. I'm you know what? I'm doing that right now. Shirtless press. Let's go. JKL everybody, I gotta get this show on the rope. I'll be in the car.
Dave
01:47
This is the Extra Extra Hot Great Podcast. Episode 431 for the September 26, 2026 weekend. I am celebrity bull rider David T. Cole, and I'm here with very confusing dancer Sarah D. Bunting.
Sarah
02:06
Wouldn't get a hot dog at the movies though.
Dave
02:08
And fast talking campaign manager Tara Ariano.
Tara
02:11
Oh, my brother loves Superstellar. Welcome to Extra, Extra Hot Great for another weekend. Thank you all listeners for being here. Thank you especially for Matthew McConaughey doing that
Dave
02:33
What a scoop
Tara
02:34
before
Sarah
02:35
Oh boy, look at us. We're in the big time now
Tara
02:38
I mean, I guess we can say for anyone who doesn't listen to our sister podcast, listen to Sassy, that's not the first time Pam Ribbon has busted out her Matthew McConaughey impression. And sh it's you can tell it's quite lived in. Brothers was the most I've seen him just being him in a while, and all I could think was he's so much like Pam's impressions.
Dave
02:57
Yeah.
Tara
02:57
So that's how that came about. So yeah, we're here to talk about brothers. When Woody Harrelson himself, in giant air quotes, is overwhelmed by female feelings after his daughter Olive. Heidi Kuan breaks up with her fiance, he decides to load the whole family into his presumably no emissions bus, drive to see his friend Matthew McConaughey, also himself, in Austin. This is an inconvenient time for Matthew to be hosting. His late father's old high school is about to retire his football jersey, and Matthew is supposed to be writing a speech for the ceremony, but he feels blocked. After one wild night with Woody, Matthew realizes it's actually fine for him to improvise something on the spot, and he also makes a big decision about his future. Future. The show was created by Harrelson McConaughey. David West Reed, an Emmy winner for writing on Shits Creek And Lee Eisenberg of The Office and We Crashed. Two episodes dropped on Apple September 23rd. We got access to eight, but we will be careful about spoilers from future episodes. Let's do the chen check-in. Sarah should our listeners watch Brothers
Sarah
04:06
I don't know. I enjoyed it more than I thought I would, but I don't know if I can recommend it, so we'll have to discuss.
Dave
04:17
I will not recommend it. It has potential. You can see it, but it never reaches it. It has the pacing of talking to a stoned Woody Harrelson, which really put me out of it.
Sarah
04:28
Yeah, that is an issue.
Dave
04:28
Tar.
Tara
04:30
Yeah, it's a no for me as well. Um, let's get into it. Sarah, this show has basically the exact Conceit of BH 90210, the non-sequel sequel to Beverly Hills 90210 from 2019, which did the conceit better.
Sarah
04:47
I have to say this one because it has access to better actors. I think is the the key, but I feel like we've seen this kind of buddy opposites Romana stoned before. I Think your tolerance for Woody Harrelson as himself is gonna drive a lot of your decision making here. I don't mind him or the two of them together. I'm just not sure how far this can really go as conceived. It did feel like it was finally starting to catch as like a pacing engine, but uh It sounds, Dave, like that isn't the case.
Dave
05:31
Yeah, I watched a couple more after the first two today and It doesn't really change the tact. It doesn't really ramp up like I was kind of hoping it was, because at the end of the first episode, you know, it's the first episode we're just setting the table and then there is this question of are they actually DNA related and that kind of doesn't really ramp up. Right? We don't get this acceleration that I was expecting. Because this show for me felt like when I was talking earlier about potential. I'm imagining the show done by a different set of creators, let's say the righteous gemstones people
Tara
06:05
Yeah.
Dave
06:06
which I feel like
Sarah
06:06
Mm -hmm.
Dave
06:07
the actors involved, the premise involved could be handled by them really well in a way that brings in absurdity into the equation, which I think this show lack. Like this show just seems like a warm, lazy summer Texas day. Where nothing happens and you don't have the energy to do anything because it's so fucking hot. That is sort of the pacing of the show, and I kept on waiting for it to get in gear and it just never does And I think part of the problem is this is just sort of what Harrelson and McConaughey wanted to do. And maybe there was a meeting where they thought we have to capture this sort of energy that they put out there in the pop culture world and turned that back into a show, but it needed to be accelerated. Ten percent more, dude, where's my car DNA in this relationship?
Sarah
06:59
Hmm, yeah.
Tara
07:00
I guess, but I I mean, especially in the first episode when which is largely about Woody sort of pulling Matthew into a crazy scheme where they get stranded in the middle of the nowhere and then they end up at a rodeo and blah blah blah. It's like I don't like the feeling of being stressed out by a chaotic character unless it pays off in some way that feels like it was worth it. And this just feels like bad decisions made for the sake of bad decisions. Like I don't even know why Woody would want to be out in the middle of nowhere. under the circumstances that they find themselves. Like it's just feels like a lot of nothing. And in terms of the celebrity aspect of it, like I I kind of feel like Larry David has used every part of this buffalo on curb
Sarah
07:45
Mm, yeah
Tara
07:45
your enthusiasm. Like I think we may need, you know, a 10-year moratorium on TV shows where celebrities play air quotes versions of themselves.
Dave
07:56
Yeah.
Tara
07:56
Because I feel like we've come to the end of what we can learn about them from from them doing this.
Dave
08:02
I guess I agree. I was gonna say that I don't know that I did learn anything new about them because it seems to me the exact sort of stoner low-key presence they put out in there in the world as a TV show and
Tara
08:12
Right. Yes
Dave
08:13
If it was more like Curb, then I probably would have been into it more. I guess that's what I was saying with my dude where's the car reference. But like, yeah, Curb is a better example of that. And it needed that kick in the pants.
Tara
08:26
Yeah. I also, since we're talking about moratoriums, could we get a 20-year moratorium on Crazy Train as a needle drop in media? Because as soon as that ramped up, I was like, God, not again.
Sarah
08:35
Oh yes
Dave
08:38
Yeah.
Sarah
08:38
I know. Like, congratulations, you can pay for that. No. Doesn't mean you should have.
Tara
08:44
Yeah, your
Dave
08:44
That's true, yeah.
Sarah
08:45
And
Tara
08:45
apple
Sarah
08:46
Also, like, I don't know if they get into this later in the season, but like I mean there's some reference made to it, but like Woody Harrelson's father's actual story is styled. Like he was a hit man. He wasn't just some scumbag. Like there are multiple crimoirs written by people whose family members were killed by him, allegedly.
Dave
09:07
Yeah
Tara
09:09
Yeah.
Dave
09:09
,
Sarah
09:09
And I kind of feel like I completely understand if you don't want to exploit that, fine. But if you're gonna do this, like Do the hell out of it, color to the absolute edges of that paper with red crayon, because that could really be something interesting and completely unique.
Dave
09:29
They do sort of hint at this darkness in the Harrelson family tree. They haven't come out and said quite yet halfway through if that is what they're going with, this actual hitman thing, but there is sort of a criminal underbelly sort of scenario happening.
Tara
09:39
Right.
Dave
09:45
But it is unfolding so slowly that is not gonna capture if if that's the energy you want, you gotta wait way too long into the series if they bring it up for it to actually make a make a case for watching the show for that sort of thing.
Sarah
10:00
All right.
Dave
10:01
Just speaking about the tone, like once in a while there's something that makes me think, oh, they almost had it. They needed to go further there. There's a character that is
Sarah
10:10
Yeah
Dave
10:11
the campaign manager McConaughey decides to he's gonna run for governor.
Tara
10:16
Governor.
Dave
10:16
Yeah, he's
Sarah
10:17
Mm-hmm.
Dave
10:17
gonna run for governor, and they just get sort of that's no nonsense fast stocking campaign manager in and her character is like, well, okay, why isn't this the energy we're gonna bring to the rest of the festivities? 'Cause she seemed like she understood the assignment kind of thing.
Tara
10:31
Mm-hmm.
Dave
10:32
And once in a while you get a hint at that, you know, with the guys at the bar. Once in a while you get a you get a little taste of what they should have been doing. But it doesn't happen often enough. And then sometimes they like then I feel overcompensate with some other things. There's a storyline where McConaughey is gonna take his son out on his first hunt. to kill a deer and you know, of course Harrelson being the hippy dippy-dee that is is trying to make that not happen and but dah bdah badah At the end of that, after foiling his attempt to kill the deer, he accidentally hits a deer while they're driving back to the house. And the scene is so graphic. And so over the top compared to everything else that happens, like that would have been okay in like the boys or something like that. Like the deer really goes through it
Tara
11:20
Mm-hmm
Sarah
11:21
Right
Dave
11:22
And I was like, wow, that was really mean spirited in a way because it doesn't match with anything else I actually was offended by You know what I mean? Like if I just saw that happen unto itself, it would be like, okay, yes, that is what happens when you hit a deer with a giant minivan.
Tara
11:30
Yeah.
Sarah
11:30
Right.
Dave
11:38
But in that moment, I'm like, ooh, that seemed like we had two different editors going on here with this scene. So there's just this real sort of pick a laneness to this endeavor
Tara
11:49
Yeah.
Dave
11:49
that that is like at the root of the problem for me.
Tara
11:51
Well, yes, I agree. There is a tension because, you know, like we said, the four creators are the two leads and then two comedy writers.
Dave
12:00
Yeah.
Tara
12:00
And so there's obviously gonna be a limit of how much or in what ways Harrelson and McConaughey want to play with their public image, even though their public image is what the whole show is premised on.
Dave
12:08
Mm-hmm.
Sarah
12:13
Mm-hmm.
Tara
12:14
So there's there's gonna be, you know, there's like a black box of stuff that they're not gonna get into.
Dave
12:19
Yeah, what we really need to see is the first draft of this show.
Tara
12:23
Yeah.
Dave
12:23
And then f see what got pulled back because you know that's what happened.
Tara
12:27
Right.
Dave
12:27
It hit committee and then
Tara
12:29
Or a version of this where there are different actors are playing different characters that are like
Dave
12:29
yeah.
Tara
12:33
loosely recognizable as them but legally distinct from them
Dave
12:36
Yes
Tara
12:37
so that they could actually
Sarah
12:38
Right.
Tara
12:39
get into stuff that these leads are, you know, too vain or too worried to actually get into.
Dave
12:43
Yeah. Mm hmm.
Sarah
12:45
Yeah, or they wanted to and the network was like, nah, but I can't imagine that's true
Tara
12:51
Yeah.
Sarah
12:51
and I also kind of feel like it is possible to go more surrealist and just have like that scene that scene in the first episode with Holland Taylor, where there's the revelation that they could be brothers, whatever.
Dave
13:06
She plays Makana his mother.
Sarah
13:08
Yes, m Mama back. I really liked the energy in that scene. Just the two of them, they've seem to have known each other for a long time, which probably is like true in a Hollywood sense
Tara
13:21
Mm-hmm.
Sarah
13:22
they've been aro everybody's been around for a while
Tara
13:24
Yeah.
Sarah
13:25
and I just liked their chemistry as like sort of a m weird mother in law type for Woody and I was like, just do like thirty three and a third short scenes with these two.
Dave
13:36
Yeah.
Sarah
13:36
Just like getting fucked up together or d being in a car and just like pointing at something we can't see and laughing. But like I shouldn't be wool gathering about what other shows that are this would have been better than this.
Dave
13:49
There's a scene in the third episode where they are still antagonizing each other, but they're doing it over a bong. So that kind of energy you do get here and there. And it is good. I kind of wish we had more of her. But
Sarah
14:02
Mm
Dave
14:02
the best parts of this show are really on the margins.
Sarah
14:06
-hmm.
Dave
14:14
Do you think this theme is better when you're stoned or worse?
Sarah
14:18
Worse
Dave
14:35
Boing. Alright, let's get into the Ask Ask EHG judgment. Let's spin the wheel to see who is going to be the judge. It's me, it's me! Alright, last week Seth asked, you've been hired to produce a peak TV era line of underoos. What are you doing? I don't know why half the answers were it's so-and-so 's face-on. That's not how under ruse work. That's how shitty Halloween costumes from the 1980s work. Or had words and phrases on them. So there was a lot I was able to throw out right away. And at the time I judged that left exactly two answers to use. And I like them both, so they're both gonna win. First one from Cekent, breaking bad, obviously just the plain whitey tidies as on-brand and cost effective. High margin on that one.
Sarah
15:27
Love that
Dave
15:28
And then Steel Mill Eric came in with Don Draper, flat boxers with a Hammaconda sewn in to provide the proper outline.
Tara
15:37
My God.
Dave
15:37
Hammaconda!
Sarah
15:37
Wow, wow
Tara
15:39
No
Dave
15:40
Yeah. I I still laughed. Vit wildly inappropriate, Eric, but still gonna net you some stickers
Sarah
15:47
Mm-hmm.
Dave
15:47
So both winners for understanding the concept of Underoos. I'll mail all outstanding prizes when the as promised and now as ordered incandescently twatyy stickers arrive.
Tara
15:59
Woo.
Dave
15:59
So look forward to that.
Sarah
16:00
I can't believe that made the that made the sticker pantheon
Dave
16:04
It is.
Tara
16:04
You can't
Sarah
16:04
so proud.
Dave
16:04
It's here now and it's
Sarah
16:06
Mm-hmm
Clip
16:06
Incandescently twatty
Dave
16:09
Yes. All right, let's get into your questions for us this week. We have a trio of related ones. Steel Mill Eric. Recent winner Steel Meal Eric is here with the first one. What are some of the terrors of Jason Mendoza?
Tara
16:24
Jason Mendoza, of course, being Manny Jacinto's character from The Good Place. So his terrors are being mistaken for a Zen master, Dance Cruise with six or fewer members, and Blake Bortles getting tackled. Sarah.
Sarah
16:40
Power outage during a DJ set in Ibitha, which he thinks is called Kabatha. Janet cheats on him with current Jags QB, Trevor Lawrence. Dave.
Dave
16:50
The Jacksonville Jaguars go O for seventeen three years straight and are bought by Crypto Bros and moved to Waco, Texas.
Tara
16:57
No ,
Sarah
16:58
Oh
Dave
16:58
Dr. Calhoun asks, what are some of the terrors of Jason Mantzoukas? Sarah.
Sarah
17:04
Shaving and an activist judge sentencing him to live for twenty-four hours as Rafi from the league because he littered at the Highline. Dave.
Dave
17:12
Yeah, similar answer. Hair clippers set to anything lower than eighteen. Tara
Tara
17:17
Being forced to create a social media account, all of his identical white shirts getting stained at the same time, and of course, good movies.
Dave
17:26
Johnny S. A. has our last in this little trip tick. What are some of the terrors of Jordan Catalano?
Tara
17:33
Reading, Sarah
Sarah
17:35
Fender Benders, fine print.
Dave
17:37
Diana asks, what would Beverly Hills 902 and O have been like if Aaron Sorkin produced it? Conversely, what would the West Wing have been like if it was produced by Aaron Spelling? Hmm.
Tara
17:49
Beverly Hills 90210, produced by Aaron Sorkin, is Dawson's Creek. Aaron Spelling's West Wing is set in Los Angeles, and Heather Locklear is president. Sarah.
Sarah
17:59
Oh my god, I want to watch that now. For the first one, all the scenes would take place in the hallway between classes or walking through the good old student union at CU to get those pedicles conferencing steps in. Unfortunately, I think there's still no justice for the female characters, and especially not for Donna, who is still going to have to pine for an arrogant piss face, which she could do better in both these universes. But they just replace all the infidelity with student government mansplaining, and oh my god, Brandon's task force and Aaron's work in Stein oh two and oh would just be the entire show. Campaign 96, your revenge is here. Um, on the flip side, Spelling's West Wing would be much more brightly lit. You'd see a lot more belly shirts and staff meetings, there would be a much greater focus on inappropriate relationships between first daughters and staff, and I'm guessing we'd have been stuck with Mandy until like season five.
Dave
18:48
Nicely done. All right. Damon asks, how would you party like at Space 1999? Sarah.
Sarah
18:57
I would sew zippers into the shoulders of every single garment, even if it didn't have shoulders, and liquid-proof all of my tech in the event of a Spooge attack. Tara.
Tara
19:08
Uh
Dave
19:09
Spooge
Tara
19:09
you
Dave
19:09
attack.
Tara
19:11
try to use a computer panel to play music, but what looks like a keyboard is just a giant sticker, Dave.
Dave
19:18
I am going to throw the world's best foam party and then the next day in the sobering light of the new year, I am going to show everyone that they were actually partying in Spooge all night. And then as the masses advance for revenge, I will escape to the moon where I will detonate a nuclear bomb, escape orbit by sending the moon into space while yelling.
Clip
19:39
Ding Tongue!
Sarah
19:42
Mm-hmm.
Dave
19:43
Next question is from Dr. Calhoun. The new Resident Evil movie freaked me out because the main character has my name and his girlfriend has the same name as my girlfriend. Have you ever had any coincidences like that? I did. I have to talk around the actual details. But we're watching a show that we enjoy, and then a character went to the ATM and used our PIN number out loud to get money from the ATM.
Tara
20:12
I had the same one! I was gonna not even say what medium it was.
Sarah
20:14
Yeah.
Tara
20:16
Leave open the possibility that it was a stage play, but okay, yes, it's a TV show.
Dave
20:21
So here's what you have to do. You have to go through television history post I'm gonna say 1978 when we had ATMs.
Sarah
20:27
Mm-hmm
Tara
20:28
Is
Dave
20:28
And then you have to figure out which one we are talking about, what that pin
Tara
20:28
it
Dave
20:32
number is, and then steal our cards. So if you're up for that, have at it.
Tara
20:36
Sarah.
Sarah
20:37
Well, you know what mine is, Dave? Play that beautiful what's she doing here clip.
Clip
20:43
Miss Sarah Bunting. What on earth is she doing here?
Dave
20:48
Mm-hmm. That makes sense.
Sarah
20:49
Still a little weird to me, to be honest.
Tara
20:50
Yeah, mm-hmm
Sarah
20:51
It's been like 17 years or something.
Dave
20:53
Yep. Last question for us comes from Seth. I am now reading about sweet tomatoes, and apparently there's an item called Joan's Broccoli Madness True. How does one contract broccoli madness and what are the symptoms?
Tara
21:08
Well, you contract it when an infected head of broccoli bites you, or if you get an infected broccoli floret in an open wound and um it gives you farts so offensive They drive even you insane. Sarah.
Sarah
21:23
A stealthy patch of mold in an otherwise normal-looking head of Brock? sends the consumer on a psychedelic journey in which they feel compelled to dress the rest of the head up in form-fitting outfits, color the florets red, and hang a small pen necklace around it, a la Joan Harris, on Mad Men Obviously, Dave.
Dave
21:43
This one's for you, Nick. Signing anyone else but Steve Coogan to be the next James Bond.
Tara
21:49
Yes
Dave
21:49
All right, Jovial Gent has your ask ask EHG question, people. You have to answer this on our Discord or on our webpage for this episode. Jovial Gent asks. What TV clergy person would you want to go on the town with? Clergy Got you got an answer? Go to our Discord.
Sarah
22:10
Oh my gosh.
Dave
22:11
Look for the Ask
Sarah
22:12
Portals.
Dave
22:12
Ask E H G channel, or as I mentioned, go to the episode page on the site. You can put your answer there too. It is time for the we little tiny canon presenting this week Tar.
Tara
22:24
Yes, it's me. Among other things, Thirty Rock is about the addition of a self identified mentally ill millionaire comic to the cast of NBC's The Girly Show, which had theretofore been a female focused could be a boon for her show, but also that the two of them could work together. The rest of the series is, among other things, about Tracy refusing to be predictable, and that starts in the second episode. One of the TGS staffers most resistant to Tracy's arrival is writer James Spurlock, Keith Powell, better known as Toofer because he is both black and a graduate of a college in Boston, well actually just outside of Boston, no not tufts Toofer uses the time everyone spends waiting for Tracy's late arrival to complain that there's nothing of value in Tracy's body of work and that he's an imbecile. an impression borne out by a clip from Tracy's stand up in which he exhorts ladies to quote give up the butt and also by Tracy himself who almost immediately whips off his shirt to join the TGS dancers gyrating on stage But then Tracy has his first sit-down with the writers, clip one.
Clip
23:41
So I said Rick, this chick's got an Adam's apple. And Rick said to me, I'll never forget this. He said Freaky Dickies need love too. Freaky Dickies need love too.
Tara
23:53
Though Freaky Diki is probably not what the subject of Tracy's anecdote would prefer to be called, the point of the story is that the incident raised Tracy's consciousness. He hasn't nailed the vocabulary, but his heart is in the right place. The twofer has a different view of this anecdote. Clip two.
Clip
24:09
Charming. So, how you doing over there, Theo Huxtable? I'm doing good. Uh-uh. Superman does good. You doing well. You need to study your grammar, son.
Tara
24:22
Tracy and Toofer continue to clash, as you would expect from, respectively, the star of honky grandma B. Trippin and a former writer on the sitcom Black Frasier. But Tracy being able to shut down a pedantic character with pedantry, comeback that would chasten only the person whose face it's being thrown in. Asserts Tracy's authority in the least predictable possible way and deserves a birth in the tiny comeback canon
Dave
24:49
Thank you, Tara. All right, Sarah, take first crack at this.
Sarah
24:52
I sort of had my doubts that this would have the sort of I don't know what the term is, but like for a second episode of an entire series, for this comeback to have Carrie, I guess. Like, have we have spent enough time with these characters when it happens? Or is this more like because it's in the second episode, is it more an issue of like this is setting the terms of this character going forward. That like everything that you explained about Tracy and how it might not be the best or most um intuitive fit at the girly show is also why you wouldn't expect him to have this actually quite elegant Superman does good, you're doing well. Which I was like, oh that's I mean, in addition to being a good comeback, that's like well put. I'm gonna use that one. So I wasn't sure how the argument was going to position that. I think it's a good comeback and I think it's a good illustration of everything that you explained about this character and how he functions in Thirty Rock as a sort of reflection of how his character functions in the girly show or a set two. So yeah, I I think that's a like it's a little bit meta of an argument, but um yeah, it's it's good. I like it. Dave.
Dave
26:07
Yeah, I think what it also does for Tracy Jordan is it establishes him not as Dumb, but just trapped in his own world, in his own universe. And that's something that comes up in the show again and again.
Sarah
26:18
Mm-hmm.
Dave
26:20
Like he acts Weird and inappropriately, but it all sort of makes sense because he is in the Tracy Jordan universe, which is a different universe from the one we all live in.
Tara
26:27
Mm-hmm. Yeah, but he also does know surprising things. Like there's a scene where someone is all in white and his a his reaction is, Oh no, did a Korean person die?
Dave
26:39
Yeah.
Tara
26:40
It's when Liz is in the wedding dress that she pre-bought without being engaged. Anyway, go on.
Dave
26:45
That's exactly right. He is not stupid, he knows things, but just the way that he operates in our world It doesn't come up a lot.
Tara
26:54
Yes
Dave
26:55
And I think this illustrates that.
Sarah
26:56
Right
Dave
26:57
And it's good that it's in the second episode because you don't have to or rather you don't pass him off as just being ignorant. He's not. He's just unworldly to us.
Tara
27:07
Right.
Sarah
27:08
Mm-hmm
Tara
27:08
Yes.
Dave
27:09
You know, he has a shark tank in his house, etc. etc. That 's just the sort of life he lives. And I gotta say, every time I hear good and well, my brain immediately goes to this scene to figure out which one I mean
Sarah
27:21
Mm-hmm.
Dave
27:22
And for that alone I think it deserves to be in the tiny canon
Sarah
27:23
So yeah.
Dave
27:26
because this is like
Sarah
27:26
I agree
Dave
27:27
a metric that uh my brain now goes to. Involuntarily, by the way, it's just like which one do I mean? Tracy Jordan said, da da da da. Alright here. I'm doing well. The other thing I guess this means because we're doing this 30 rock rewatch right now, probably our seventh or eighth since we've been here.
Tara
27:45
At least
Dave
27:46
And I have another one, though I guess I'm gonna have to either just resign to a 30 rock heavy tiny cannon in the months ahead or sit on it for a while.
Tara
27:56
Mm-hmm
Dave
27:56
So
Sarah
27:56
I actually have a Tracy Jordan line delivery one from not
Dave
27:59
Oh.
Sarah
28:00
thirty rock, so
Dave
28:01
Alright.
Sarah
28:02
I guess we're both gonna have to move those to the bottom of the list for a while.
Dave
28:02
Okay. Yep. Alright. So uh yeah, I really like this one. I thought it really set the tone for Tracy Drone's character early on. Sarah D. Bunting, what do you say on this one? Should it be in the tiny comeback cannon?
Sarah
28:16
Uh yes, thanks to the presentation, which clarified some things, I think that it should
Dave
28:21
Alright, me too. So Tracy educating twofer on English usage from 30 Rocky here by inducted into the extra hot great tiny comeback in it.
Clip
28:32
Americans love a winner. Yeah. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope.
Dave
28:38
Alright, it's time to discover our not quite winners and not quite losers of the week. The first, not quite winner, is Apple's Beat the Reaper, which casts J. K. Simmons alongside Will Poulter. Beat the Reaper follows Dr. Peter Brown. That's Poulter in the lead. He's an intern at Boston's worst hospital, says Deadline. He has a talent for medicine, but he also has a shady pass, and then things happen, a patient recognizes him from his dangerous past, and then it becomes this cat and mouse chase series after that. Me reading into the description of it I love these type of shows. I think like Slow Horses is often that type of show. And with Poulter and J. K. Simmons, I have hopes for this. It's an Apple TV show, so they're going to put money into the J. K. Simmons plays Doctor Friendly, which, alright, fine, great. I hope that really tells me a lot about the tone of the show, which is not taking yourself too too seriously. But we'll see. And he plays an incompetent surgeon at the hospital, which I'm also there for if we get J. K. Simmons trying to be serious and uh probably a little gruff, but also doesn't know what the fuck he's doing with the scalpel in his hand. It could pay dividends. That is called Beat the Reaper. And my not quite loser of the week is Kit Harrington, who still thinks his Game of Thrones character Jod Snow could get a spinoff. And he was pretty like, Yeah, maybe we'll do it, but no, it wasn't right. And now he's like, Well, let's give it another shot because I guess we're not getting another Eternals one and my character from the whatever that was at the end of that ain't coming back any time soon, apparently. So, uh Kit needs work, so maybe we should look at that again, says Kit Harrington.
Tara
30:19
Hmm. Isn't he in the new Harry Potter show?
Dave
30:22
Is he?
Sarah
30:22
He sure is.
Tara
30:23
Yeah
Sarah
30:23
He was a knock white loser for that not long ago, so fuck off, Kit Harrington.
Dave
30:23
Oh. I think that proves my point.
Sarah
30:28
Sorry.
Tara
30:28
Yeah, true
Dave
30:29
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Sarah, not quite winner of the week.
Sarah
30:32
We got a bunch because it's rectify grads for not quite winners. First of all, Prime Video's NASAlimited series, The Challenger, adding, among others, Kevin Carroll, William Fichtner. Hello. Louisa Jacobson, Eric Lang, and Adelaide Clemens, who I think is on RJ Decker right now.
Tara
30:50
Yes
Sarah
30:50
This is how John sold me on starting to watch that, that he's like, what if I told you? I was like, I'm listening. Uh-huh. Also in this category is the Testaments, which for season two is adding Deborah Ann Wool and Luke Kirby, who is also in Rectify. Not quite loser, Netflix's Gary Glitter documentary postponed after, quote, new legal information, unquote. This was supposed to debut in like three weeks, but apparently because he is a subject of the British legal system and they're quite strict about information being discussed in any medium while proceedings are ongoing. I guess there's even more cases going to be adjudicated against this absolute predatory scumbag and let's add to Knock Quite Losers sports venues that are still using that song. Because some of them are still doing it and it's not okay. He has to be cancelled. They were children. Squirrels. Tara.
Tara
31:50
Well here's some whiplash. Mine not quite whatever the week is
Sarah
31:53
Yeah, sorry.
Tara
31:54
Competitive Bollywood Dance, which is getting a docu -series from from Indian matchmaking creator Smriti Mundra and best of the best co-writer and tertiary star Hasan Minhaj. Again, this is a world I didn't even know about before Best of the Past. Now I'm obsessed, so I will at least be watching. I fear it won't have enough dance for me, but we'll find out. My not quite loser of the week, Jake Paul's betting app. I can't believe this fucking thing keeps coming up in in our losers, but you know. Amazingly, this story had legs. So we first heard about it with regard to Doug Ellen, the creator of Entourage, throwing a hissy fit about anyone thinking that he wrote the Jeremy Piven, Adrian Grenier commercial for this app. And now HBO is sending Jake Paul's betting app a cease and desist letter for infringing on the company's IP entourage, even though neither actor is ex Explicitly in character, but it seems like they're also not not in character. So I mean, good luck to everybody, I guess, except Jake Paul. He can go to hell.
Dave
33:01
Alright, here comes Kim Reed's, the most awesome thing I watched on TV last month.
Kim
33:10
Hi, this is Kim Reed, and welcome to the most awesome thing I saw on TV last month. Last month I watched season four episode twenty of Little House on the Prairie called A Most Precious Gift. So we open up on Carrie climbing a tree, which when did she get big enough to climb a tree? Wasn't she in like a high chair last week? And I think part of the reason I feel like Carrie's super dumb is because she always has this really idiotic grin on her face.
Clip
33:28
No, no, no, that 's
Kim
33:29
And I can't believe any director never told Lindsay or Sydney, whichever one this is, to stop grinning wildly at every opportunity.
Clip
33:30
a different emotion.
Kim
33:36
And I just want to be clear, I'm making fun of the character. It's not the actress's fault. They were just little kids doing what they were told to do. Anyway, dumb old Carrie grabs some eggs out of a bird's nest and is super excited to show pa and pa 's like, you idiot Carrie says she'll put them back, and Pa says that's not gonna work, although it could work, it's better than nothing. Carrie's bright idea is to keep them warm under her pillow, and instead of calling her an idiot or a moron, Pa just lets her, like those eggs aren't gonna crack the second Carrie lays her head down to sleep tonight. So Ma's over at Miss Beadle's house, I mean misses Sims's house, having tea, which when did these two become bosom buddies? But it turns out Mrs. Sims is knocked up and Mary's gonna take over teaching while Mrs. Sims is out having her baby So that night at the Engels house, Laura's doing homework, and Ma's teaching Mary how to pin her hair up so she'll look like a grown-up while teaching, and Carrie's being annoying as usual, so Pa puts Carrie to bed And then Carrie checks on the eggs under her pillow, which are in like a hat or a sock or something, and they're also clearly painted rocks, so dumb Carrie didn't break them. Maybe a storyline should have been pa swapping the eggs out for painted rocks because you know it would fool Carrie and otherwise I just don't understand how those eggs aren't going to break The next morning Pa wakes Ma up and she's shocked at how late she slept because it's after five AM, which kill me now if I ever lived on a farm and had to get up at five AM every day. And Ma has a dizzy spell, so you know what that means. If a lady on television's not feeling well in the morning, she's either pregnant or she's about to die. And I know Ma's not about to die, so I I think we know where this is going. The next day at school, Carrie stays behind at recess and asks Mrs. Sims if people have babies like birds do, which Carrie grew up on a farm. I'm pretty sure she knows how all this works. Then again, it is Carrie, so maybe not. Back at the Ingalls house, Ma has another dizzy spell and has to sit down, and Pa comes in and is shocked to find Ma sitting down in the middle of the day and insists they go to Doc Baker. I'm just thinking about what would happen if my husband insisted we go to the doctor any time he found me sitting down in the middle of the day. I know we'd hit some sort of cat by like February. Anyway, once they get there, Caroline's pretty sure she's going through the change, but Doc Baker tells her she's pregnant, which is weird because in a couple seasons Ma 's gonna be pretty sure she's pregnant, but she's actually going through the change. Anyway Ma literally sprints over to the mill to tell Pa the good news, which they can barely afford the kids they have, but only God can judge them, I guess Laura and Andy Garvey are fixing the chicken coop or something, and Andy Garvey's like, Why is your ma having another baby? And again, these children grew up on farms. I have to believe they understand how this works, but Regardless, Andy thinks that Laura's parents probably want a boy. And Laura's like, why? Which relatable. And Andy's like, because then they can help out on the farm. And Laura's like, I help out on the farm, but you can't have a baby. And Andy has no response Apparently Pa 's paying Andy to work around the farm with Laura, which is Laura getting paid? And also doesn't Andy's family have their own farm? But anyway, this was all set up so that Pa could be like, boy, Andy's awesome, and Mr. Garby's so lucky And then Ma's nervous she won't give Pa a son, which is so gross to even say, so let's move on. That night Pa's trying to sleep and Ma wakes him up to ask if he wants a boy or a girl, and Charles is no dummy, so he won't answer, but Ma pesters him and pesters him, and finally he says, if he got to decide He would choose a son and Ma's all happy. And then Pa goes back to sleep and then she looks worried. Like, girl, you made him answer the question. If you didn't want to know, why did you ask? Then there's what may be one of the weirdest scenes this show has ever had, and that's saying something, which is Laura's chasing bandit across the prairie and they come upon a fortune teller who's just camping out just outside Walnut Grove, you know, like fortune tellers do And she basically tells Laura that she knows Ma's pregnant and she knows it's her fifth pregnancy and that she lost one of the babies and Laura's like so freaked out. And she asked the fortune teller to tell her fortune and the lady's like, not right now. But I'm going to be in Walnut Grove tomorrow to tell fortunes if you want to come by, and Laura's like, I'm there. What the hell? with the random fortune teller. The next day Ma meets up with a fortune teller in town and uncharacteristically decides to spend money to hear her fortune and she learns that a female relative will be visiting after the baby's born, and also the fortune teller thinks the baby's a boy. What a hack. That night Ma tells the family about her experience, and the girls think it's awesome, but Pa's like that was dumb. Kind of on Pa side, but he could have been a little bit more sensitive about it. And then Carrie tries to use the fortune teller's trick of hanging a ring from a chain to find out if her stupid rock eggs are boys or girls, and I'm pretty sure there were three eggs to start, and now there's only two, but I'm not exactly surprised. At school, Mary's handing papers back because I guess she's been grading them and Willie complains about his grade and Mary's like, the papers weren't very good. And then Willie complains and she says I couldn't read it because I couldn't read your writing. Like that's exactly her tone, which I get that Willie's annoying, but Mary really needs to work on her teacher voice. And then Mrs. Sims goes into labor and now Mary's in charge of the class. Hooray Have I mentioned that clearly some months have passed because misses Simms is having her baby, but also Ma's wearing maternity clothes. So Ma's doing laundry outside and Alice Garvey comes up hell bent for leather in her wagon and she says, I'm supposed to be running an errand for the post office, but I had to tell you the news Mrs. Sims had her baby, but Ma looks like, oh no, it's a boy. As if there's only so many boys to go around, and if Mrs. Sims had one, that means Ma can't. Which when did Ma get this dumb That night after dinner, everyone's excitedly talking about misses Sims baby, and Ma just goes, Can't we talk about something else besides that baby and runs out of the house? Which I get pregnancy hormones could make you act a little crazy, but get it together, woman. Pa finds her out in the barn crying and she says it's not fair that Mrs. Sims had a son because she already has a stepson. And Pa 's like, our all-girl family is awesome. Like, was Pa the original girl dad? And Ma's like, Well, we're gonna have a son, I'm sure of it. And Pa just looks sad So then the next day, or maybe the next month, who knows? Ma goes and visits their dead baby Charles's grave. Remember the baby Charles who died back in season one? The show didn't remember until just now, I think. Ma prays to God to give her a son for paw's sake, and if this were a darker show she'd have a son, but there'd be something wrong with him, like a real monkey's paw situation. So then Mrs. Sims brings her baby to church and everyone's like clustered around, and I know they didn't know about germs, but give the woman some breathing room. Anyway Ma doesn't want to look at the baby, but then she does, and she's able to smile and congratulate Mrs. Simms. That night Ma's looking at the cradle Pa made in the barn and Pa comes in and literally just yells at her for wanting a son And I get that he wants to get the point across that he doesn't care if the baby's a boy or a girl, but why does he have to yell at her? And then he gets real sad about how he had a son and that son died and that's over. is if that means he can't ever have another son. This is also dumb because we know they have a girl and it turns out to be Grace, so I'm not even going to spend any more time on this except to say That Pa's closing line is that Ma's just as bad as Carrie with her dead eggs, which yikes. So then Pa goes over and asks mister Garvey if the girls can stay with them while Ma has the baby, and he of course says yes, but he's busy looking at a nest of newly hatched birds in his barn So then Carrie shows up with her dumb rock eggs, and mister Garvey, the only one with any sense in this episode, tells her they should put her eggs up in his barn, 'cause it's kind of like a tree, and then they'll be safe and high up. And Carrie has completely forgotten the fact that the reason she took the eggs in the first place was because they needed to be kept warm, and she's like, Sounds good to me. So he puts the rock eggs in with the newborn birds and tells Carrie they'll probably hatch by tomorrow, and since she can't see the nest, she just accepts it. And let's just wrap up this non-storyline by telling you that Carrie gets up in the middle of the night to check on the eggs and sees the birds and yells, I'm a mommy, and I'm so glad we wasted time on this. So Pa goes home and Ma's in labor and he says he'll go get Doc Baker and Ma's like, No, I just want you to stay, which I know she's had babies before, but she also did have that one that died, but I guess back then the doctor being around from the birth was not as likely. Although I think they did generally have someone besides the father of the baby there, like a neighbor woman or something, like can't Alice Garvey go over? Meanwhile, Pa 's expertly coaching Ma, like add midwife to the list of things Pa's really awesome at, even though he's had no training or education. and then Ma has the baby, and the baby's so beautiful that she doesn't even care that it's a girl, and it is a pretty cute baby. Anyway, Ma and Pa cry a whole lot, and then Laura voiceovers, the baby's name was Grace, which we all knew. And that was the most awesome thing I saw on T V last month.
Dave
41:25
Woo! Welcome to Extra Credit Grandpa. If you want that whole episode behind you, please visit extrahotgreat. com/slash club. To up your pledge and get all the goodies. Today's extra credit comes from me. I want everybody to describe Three quick vignettes of a character risky businessing their way into a shot in their button-down shirt and their whitey tidies. and their white socks. That is the assignment today. Do you guys want to do one at a time or does anybody need to do three in a row?
Tara
41:56
Mine are unrelated, so
Sarah
41:58
Mine too.
Dave
41:58
All right, let's start with Tara. We'll go to Sarah and I will close it out one at a time.
Tara
42:02
What if we match on these? That would be crazy.
Sarah
42:05
Oh my god. I am wondering if we might
Tara
42:07
Ooh, I had an alt. Well, there's actually one that I think we we might match on.
Dave
42:13
My first one, if I manage to match with Sarah, I'm gonna give Sarah twenty bucks. I I think it's possible and I would love for us to have done it
Sarah
42:21
Okay.
Dave
42:21
both.
Tara
42:22
Okay, I'm gonna start with the one I think is
Dave
42:22
All right.
Tara
42:24
likeliest It's Reacher from Reacher. He famously never has more than one change of clothing.
Dave
42:32
Uh-huh.
Tara
42:33
In this scenario, he's at one of the many thrift stores in America that has had clothes donated by men who are as big or possibly bigger than Reacher himself, because it's the only place he gets clothes. Except this time another large man has already cleaned the store out of pants, so to pass the time while a local tailor tries to assemble two pairs of jeans into one pair that will fit Racher, Racher does an old-time rock and roll in the changing area, to everyone's delight.
Sarah
42:59
Ryan from Primo. This is very Ryan for Primo. It is a very important ritual to him, but he doesn't want anyone else in the family to know about it, so the setup of it happening and then the concealment of it having happened is, if anything, more involved than it would be for literal masturbation. After we've spent a portion of an episode having that established. we see Ryan slide into the shot and strike the iconic pose, and then Rolly walking casually through from the other side of the room, all Hey Ryan, you left your pants in the freezer while eating a hot pocket. Ryan shrieks and runs out of frame. Antsy.
Tara
43:39
Nice.
Sarah
43:39
Dave
Tara
43:40
Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.
Dave
43:42
Thank you.
Tara
43:43
You're welcome.
Dave
43:44
The severed helix head wrapped in A shirt and socks slowly slides across the icy floor, but just keeps on slowly sliding out of frame.
Sarah
43:56
Oh course.
Tara
44:01
Kermit on the Muppet Show, the uh revival series I have to assume is coming, even though nothing has been announced yet Kermit comes into the Muppet Theater on a weekend when no one else is there to get some work done without being interrupted by, you know, the usual bullshit, since he famously doesn't wear clothes other than his little collar There could be a whole bit about him selecting the right shirt, cycling through other famous looks in the costume closet like James Dean and Rebel Without a Cause and Cliff from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I just always think it's fun when we see the Muppets being awkward on their weird little legs. So I think that would add to uh the enjoyment of this scenario.
Dave
44:38
I think we should have like an ult where he's doing the yay arms as he does it.
Tara
44:41
Yeah, yes, or the s or the sensuals and Kermit
Dave
44:44
Yes.
Tara
44:44
Dance of also of meme fame
Dave
44:47
Alright, Sarah. Dun dun dun den
Sarah
44:51
Thank you. Bash Howard from Glow has bought a house specifically because it had an entryway opening onto a living room that would allow him to do this all the time. We see a montage of him doing it and then turning to camera and coming out of the closet, and then we cut to him on a date with a woman looking glum. It sort of got dark. Anyway. Dave.
Dave
45:13
Thank you. I just want to point out in case Sarah sounds a little different this episode, she is recording from a Beach house and I'm just looking at where you are, this is very risky business friendly.
Tara
45:22
Mm-hmm. It really
Sarah
45:25
Yeah.
Tara
45:25
is
Dave
45:25
Yeah.
Sarah
45:25
I mean there's like wall to wall carpet though.
Dave
45:28
Oh.
Sarah
45:28
God, Aunt Brenda, why? Love you
Dave
45:31
My second is hit me again, hit me again with the Is Captain Pike from Strange New Worlds and he slides in but he's got his full uniform
Tara
45:42
Mm-hmm.
Dave
45:42
but halfway through the slide all his clothes get transported off of him And he panics and he tries to cover his junk. Then the transporter fixes it, but it only adds back in his undershirt, whitey tidies, and his socks.
Tara
45:56
Mm-hmm
Dave
45:56
But the real kicker is For some reason, all these undergarments are actually color-coded to a Starship Captain
Tara
46:05
I love how you call them Whitey Tighties
Dave
46:08
That's because somebody put that in the uh in their answer for the underoos and it's in my head now and I can't stop calling them whitey tidies.
Sarah
46:08
Mm-hmm.
Tara
46:11
Oh oh okay. Got it. Okay
Dave
46:15
Alright, Tara, let's hear your last one.
Tara
46:20
It's Issa from Adults, character played by Amida Rao. Full disclosure, I have not watched season two yet. I've been saving it, so this might be something that actually happens on the show. for that, although the door is on the different side, I think, the front door. But it is set up the same way with a big entryway next to the living room. Anyway, Issa's button down is cropped. And she is um bottomless cause it's Issa, so her privates are blurred. Turns out she's not alone, but Samir in the living room has seen Isa bottomless so many times that they're both just like, what up? When they didn't notice each other and it's Not awkward at all.
Dave
46:55
Sarah Pop pop pop pop pop pop pop up
Sarah
46:58
Ricky Vasquez Slide, pose, Mr. Katimsky yells, cut, bustles into the shot with a Swiffer, picks something off the floor, and bustles out. Risk Ricky asks, back to one mister Katimsky stops, looks at Ricky's back, gives the shirt collar a tweak, and says, Now back to one Enrique. Just as from off screen mister K's boyfriend calls Dinner And Mr. K and Ricky in Unison be right there. And then they go back to one. I don't know why I like had this whole elaborate thing that I wish we'd seen, but there were a lot of things that we wanted to see in season two and didn't get to and I don't think there's any reason that can't be one of them. Alright Dave, take us home.
Dave
47:43
The Sterling Cooper conference room is filled with a very nervous Peggy Olson pitching executives from a SOC company. As her pitch is collapsing in real time, Don hasn't said a word. He gets up, he walks out, and the room is silent. About ten seconds later he slides back in on the polished floor in his shirt, his tidy whiteys, and socks. He glides in very smoothly, stopping with an effortless turn beside the easel. He lets the silence settle. Freedom, he says. It's not what you wear on your feet. It's what happens when you take everything else off. Peggy drops her pen, P smiles, the client's nearly in tears. All together now. All together now.
Tara
48:34
Da
Dave
48:38
Jambolic. Well guys, that is it for another episode of Extra Extra hot great. We explain why the Harrelson McConaughey show Brothers was not quite all right times three before answering your burning Ask EHG questions like what are the terrors of various Jordans and Jasons? And are you partying? like his nineteen ninety nine bracket space. Tara taught us about the value of good grammar in the Tiny Comeback Canon. We celebrated those who weren't quite the best and worst of the week, and wrapped it all up with nine pieces of risky business. Next up is American Horror Story Season 13 on EHGprime. Remember.
Clip
49:21
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Dave
49:24
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Tara
49:27
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Dave
49:30
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Sarah
49:32
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Dave
49:36
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49:49
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Um so I'm still hopeful that that's just in turnaround and maybe it got deferred until, you know, between seasons of Westworld or something. Who knows? If you haven't read those books, they're great. They're uh extremely chilling about a post-climate change environment and all the horrors that could come with us. So real cheerful. Um, but my pick is uh for It Can't Happen Here by Upton Sinclair. Uh sorry. Sinclair Lewis, the other Sinclair, um, about the rise of fascism in America and um uh Just about anyone could star in this one. I feel like a lot of people have opinions and would be eager to sign up for uh a story like this on one of the prestige networks, Dave. Okay, I my first thought was Brave New World because I just that's like the big dystopian novel I had to read in school, but I don't remember too much about it except for the belts. They had to wear the population control belts. I forget what they were called. The m um uh shit. What's the old dude from the Bible? It was him. The old dude from the Methuselah? Yeah, the Methuselah. They're all old dudes. What are you talking about? The belts were named after him. And then every episode ends with somebody hunk. But my real one is the running man. Oh yeah, that's so good. I considered suggesting that. We gender bend a lead so that it's now a lady. Instead of Arnold Schwarzenegger. We make the game show part less American Gladiators and more Mad Maxi, sort of more open world sort of some sort of ruined landscape, but still, you know, scarred cities and stuff, so you can kind of have a big playground. The hosts and the fighters though are still that over-the-top wrestling kind of, you know, with their own themes and their own backstories. Yeah. Is it a hologram of Richard Dawson? No. Killian is now played by John Slattery. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's good. And the twist here though is that over the course of season one, the running man, which is the TV show within the show we know as the Running Man, is upended when shit kind of goes Spartacus. And thanks to the lead bringing in all the warriors over to the resistance. So the running lady brings all the gladiators to her side, and then season two is like this big battle royale between all the running men people and like the government bringing sending in the military and a sort of like a big war for control of the airwaves. So there's like a bigger play. I would totally watch that. Uh, fun fact, the Running Man movie is set in twenty seventeen, so just uh chew it off a little while. Perfect time. Yes. Sir Um I went with a short story actually, but it's so famous and there are so many um different ways that you could go with it because by the time you get into the story, the humans of course have died. I'm talking about Ray Bradbury's There Will S come Soft Rains, which is about the automated house and the with the people burned into the side. Uh, but I would like to expand to focus on the family that did live in the house, and then after the house dies, any human survivors in this post nuclear bombscape. And I have cast the leads as the uh Tegan legend household. as everyone because they're adorable and really fun and I think they would bring like it's easy for this kind of thing to get like so dark and never have any snark. One of the thing I things I liked about the Handmaid's Tale is like that occasionally it was like bitchy, like within itself. And I think they would bring a shot of like, what the fuck is going on to it and maybe it turns out they're actually in the basement and like the house is collapsing but they're actually alive and they're just like, well this sucks. It's clam chowder for dinner, day 18 Anyway, I'd I would watch the hell out of that. Um they could even do it as an animated series. That would be pretty fun. Uh Dan, take us home. Originally I was going to do The Road, and then my mind flashed on what I originally thought I would put Phil Hartman in. So this is gonna star Phil Hartman, and it's actually Well Uh, the original Star Trek. And Phil Hartman plays William Shatner's character, Captain Kirk. And the whole premise of this is the fact that Captain Kirk is an idiot. Mm-hmm. Because I've always hated that starship captains have always been, you know, I know all the answers and I am perfect and all this other kind of BS.this guy is completely incompetent and everybody else on the ship has to keep the ship Alive till the next week. Sounds like you wanted to play Zap Bran again on Futurama. A role which he originally was supposed to do. Indeed. Yeah.