Should Anna Pigeon Take A Hike?

Clip 00:00 Stay safe, don't die, or I will kill you. Dave 00:09 Damn it. This is the Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 627 for the week of August 10th, 2026. I am Mirror to Self Banana Peel David T. Cole and I'm here with Backcountry Monk Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 00:30 She's not the guy. Dave 00:32 Sexual bloodstones, Tara Ariano. Tara 00:34 Ooh, rugged Dave 00:35 And just to Lee accused Mountain Lion. Oh my god, yeah, I got it. Omar 00:39 Hey, her throat was slit when I got here. Uh I gotta go. Yeah Tara 00:45 Welcome to Extra Hot Great for another week joining us. He is a journalist critic and national parks enthusiast you have heard with us many times before it's Omar Gallaga welcome back Omar Dave 00:55 Welcome back, Omar. Sarah 00:57 Omar Omar 00:58 Hi, everybody. Tara 00:59 We are here to talk about Anna Pigeon, in which a park ranger named Sheila goes missing in Glacier National Park. Whereupon United States Park Police Officer Anna Pigeon I was waiting for the sound effect. Dave 01:14 Oh, I'm sorry. I I thought I was gonna be I I didn't want to push it. Tara 01:18 Tracy Spring No, I don't. Dave 01:18 If you want that every time somebody says and a pigeon, th no, wait, consider it done. Tara 01:20 I don't Dave 01:23 My treat. Omar 01:23 Animated Tara 01:23 I was just expecting it. Anyway, she's played by Tracy Spiridakos. Anna Pigeon finds Sheila. She can tell that Sheila was not killed by a mountain lion. She was killed by PEPL!trying to convince her colleagues of that, however, at least gives Anna a break from trying to dull her memories. of her old life with her now dead husband Zack, which she dulls by drinking and hooking up with a local bartender whose name she does not learn until quite late in the episode. Morwyn Brebner adapted the show from the Anna Pigeon book series by Nevada Barr. It became Bell Media's first co-commission with the USA network, meaning it was made in and mostly By Canadians. I mean in Canada, mostly by Canadians, not in Canadians. Only the first episode has aired so far on the USA Network. We got access to the first six. We will be careful about spoilers, theoretically. Let's do the Chen check-in. Omar, should our listeners watch Anna Pigeon? Omar 02:22 Uh, qualified, yes Tara 02:25 Sarah. Sarah 02:26 You don't have to call for an airlift out of the room if it's on, but Nope. Dave 02:31 I think this will appeal to people that miss a certain type of show, but it's not like the best of breed of that sort of blue skies adjacent programming. Tara 02:36 Mm-hmm Mm-hmm. If you are my mother and one of you is, you should watch this show, Mom. Dave 02:45 Yeah. One hundred percent. Yeah. Tara 02:49 Uh, everyone else you can skip it. Dave 02:49 This one's for you, Mom. Omar 02:53 My parents saw the pilot and loved it, so yeah. Dave 02:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Tara 02:55 Oh, okay Sarah 02:56 Yeah. Dave 02:56 One hundred percent parent-nip, yeah. Sarah 02:57 This is yeah, parent nip. Tara 02:59 Okay, let's let's get into it. Dave 03:00 Mm-hmm. Tara 03:02 When I was trying to decide who would be a good guest for this episode, I thought of Omar because I believe he is our outdoorsiest friend, and that turned out to be true when I texted him about it and he responded From Glacier National Park. Dave 03:15 Yeah. Tara 03:15 Omar, how was your trip and how many dead bodies did you find while you were there? Dave 03:18 And how long did it take you to get there after you learned we were going to invite you on so that you could be like this big show off? Omar 03:27 Booked a trip to Missoula, drove three hours uh no yeah, we were literally about to get on a raft. Dave 03:28 Yeah. Omar 03:32 to do some whitewater rafting uh in glacier when when I got the text. Tara 03:33 That's crazy. Omar 03:36 No, it we were just there, it just happened to line up perfectly that this show comes out. I am disappointed that I heard that the show was coming. I didn't know it was taking place at Glacier and there was no signage, no t-shirts, no tote bags. Tara 03:46 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Omar 03:49 Nothing at Glacier National Park to give you any indication that this TV show was on deck. Tara 03:53 Right. Omar 03:54 Like what a missed opportunity. Tara 03:55 Well, I mean, I think they fudge it. Obviously, like I said, they shot it in Canada, they shot it in Alberta, but they also like fudge it in the sense that she works for for the in this show the parks are administered by the Federal Parks Agency or something, which is not real, like similar to how Sarah 04:11 Yeah. Dave 04:11 Yeah. Sarah 04:13 The Fupa, sure. Tara 04:15 various productions have to be like, it's the US Mail, it's not the US Postal Service because they don't have the rights to that Dave 04:22 O R at the end of Glacier. We see you, Anna Pigeon. Tara 04:27 But the signs did look right. Like when the the parking lot signs looked like that's the that is the font that they use in national parks. Dave 04:33 Yeah, it was pr yeah, uh the look of it was fine, yeah. Tara 04:35 Yeah. Omar 04:35 I I was at Glacier and you could have fooled me. Like that all looked like scenery that similar to what we saw. Tara 04:40 Mm-hmm. Dave 04:40 Mm-hmm. Omar 04:41 So yeah, it was I I was fooled. Tara 04:41 Well. Dave 04:43 Yeah, a bird is not that far. Tara 04:44 No, Bru Alberta is above part of Montana. Dave 04:44 Yeah. Yeah. It sits on top of Montana Montana like Master Blaster Tara 04:50 Exactly, but uh Omar, to be serious, as someone who has visited many state and national parks Omar 04:51 It's not a little bit Tara 04:56 What would you think are the storytelling opportunities for a show like this and where did the pilot meet them and where did it let you down? Omar 05:03 Uh, national parks are awesome. I've I've actually haven't been to that many, uh, and but the ones I've been to, I mean I think this show kind of captures the culture of, you know, the park rangers. They're just trying to, you know, keep the park clean and keep it orderly and not have people be, you know, jerks about littering and things like that. There's a lot of that in the show. Uh is there a murder or a caper or some sort of, you know, something happening every single week at one national park? Probably not. Uh and maybe that has something to do with why why the show doesn't tie so closely to the official part is that they don't want people thinking that you're gonna get uh murdered or kidnapped or thrown in a hole every episode. I love the idea of a show set at a national park. I think that's a great setting. There's lots of cool ideas around that. And I even like the sort of office environment of it, you know, where you see her, you know, her co-workers and their in interactions. Like it reminded me a little of um uh North by North, uh kind of the the interactions with the coworkers and and that and the Tara 05:58 Oh, north of north, yes. Omar 06:00 I'm sorry, North of North, yes, which I please come back. Tara 06:01 Mm-hmm. Omar 06:02 I want that show back. Tara 06:03 It's coming back. Omar 06:04 So those parts I really liked. I liked the supporting characters, but As far as does it does it really get capture the vibe of of national parks? Um, I think so. If you're into hiking, if you're into the outdoors, if you want to see pretty shots of lakes and trees, like there's a lot of that in the show. Tara 06:18 Mm-hmm. Omar 06:19 Ultimately it's a procedural. And if you're not into those type of shows, which I'm typically not, um, it's not really gonna be your jam. But I I liked it enough that I would I would keep watching. Dave 06:28 Yeah, the the first episode is a About a neer-do-well who wants to I don't know, like mustache twirly control the national park system or something? I didn't quite understand ex Omar 06:36 I will own the national party, like how? Tara 06:37 Yeah. Dave 06:39 Well it it was ludicrous. Tara 06:39 Uh huh. Dave 06:41 Absolutely ludicrous. Uh play by Kim Coates, so you know he's evil because he's Kim Coates, right? Tara 06:45 Oh yeah, mm-hmm Sarah 06:47 Yeah. Dave 06:47 But I'm just wondering, like, beyond that, beyond him being set up as the nemesis for uh Anna Pigeon, like what else can we do? Like I was trying to make a list as soon as you said that to Omar, like Tara 06:58 Mm-hmm. Dave 06:58 Dumb tourists, that's probably gonna be in every episode, probably not the thrust of it something. Tara 07:00 Of course Sarah 07:00 Yeah. Tara 07:02 Yeah. Dave 07:03 Fires, animals, perhaps a super volcano, but what else are we actually gonna do as the background for an episode? Tara 07:03 Yes. Yes Rock slide, mm-hmm, yeah. Omar 07:11 Bear attack Sarah 07:12 Poaching dead drops for various other capers. I listed this in the in our um doc and hopefully it'll be in the show notes. There's a book by John Billman called The Cold Vanish, Seeking the Missing in North America's Wildlands, and he just sort of went into the interior with very at various parks. was trying to figure out like, first of all, how many missing persons cases in the parks are crimes and why do we want it to be true crime versus it's like Mara Murray, like Tara 07:39 Right. Sarah 07:44 Sometimes people just get hit on the head, wander into the interior and die there. Dave 07:48 Is this sort of like the I can't afford a cruise ship to get rid of somebody, so we'll just go to a park? Is that kind of the deal? Sarah 07:56 There's enough cases like that where it's like, let's let's uh estranged people who never hike go on a hike or row a boat or whatever it is, but I think there's adequate like Dave 07:57 Yeah. Yeah. Tara 08:02 Yeah Sarah 08:07 process, at least based on the first episode, that it's like, well, it this could look like a crime, but here's how we would know that it was actually wildlife. Tara 08:15 Right, right. Dave 08:15 Right, right, right, right. Sarah 08:15 That's Tara 08:16 I will say I just finished reading a story in a recent New Yorker about what is termed alpine divorce, which is Sarah 08:24 Mm-hmm. Yep Tara 08:26 An experienced mountain climber and a less experienced spouse go up a mountain together and only one of them comes down. Dave 08:32 Uh yeah. Tara 08:34 And apparently it's enough of a thing in Austria, which is where this case in the article took place, that, you know, there's a special court that is just for like mountain crimes. Dave 08:43 Wow. Tara 08:44 Yeah. Dave 08:44 Do they have a in the courtroom is there a scaling wall? Sarah 08:45 Yeah. Dave 08:48 For demonstrations and exhibits Tara 08:50 They did not drill down that far, but the judge is like an experienced climber. Sarah 08:54 Right, who would be able to tell? Tara 08:54 So like knows what questions to ask and stuff. Dave 08:55 That's crazy. Tara 08:57 Is that cool? They should make a movie of that, in my opinion. Dave 08:59 That's great Sarah 09:00 So yeah, but this could be cool in that sort of like backcountry CSI way that CSI was like comp Dave 09:05 Yeah. Tara 09:05 Totally. Sarah 09:08 Completely new information to basically everyone for like two and a half seasons. And it's like, oh well, how would you figure out the difference here? Or how could you use litter to track a poacher or whatever? Dave 09:19 Right. Sarah 09:20 Awesome. Dave 09:20 Just to go back to Tara's thing, if we can have the Alpine Divorce Judge show I want his wife to be a food flavor scientist, which is the other thing I always thought would make a great show. Tara 09:34 Yeah Yep. Dave 09:34 Let's combine them and make one mega weird interest show. Tara 09:38 Yes, I love that. Dave 09:39 Okay, thank you for your time. Tara 09:40 Okay Dave 09:40 Omar. Omar 09:41 Well, the the thing is, even just driving up there, you know, we had to drive two, three hours to get to some of these hikes, and I don't think people who haven't been to a national park of this size understand the scale of a of a glacier national park. Tara 09:51 Mm-hmm. Omar 09:52 It's huge, it's hundreds of miles. Sarah 09:53 Yeah. Omar 09:54 And when you're driving up there, you're on these, you know, windy cliff roads like where there's hardly any barrier. I mean it's very easy to picture your car going over. uh you know, if a staged car accident or, you know, just was going over the cliff, hiking is dangerous. You know, you're on these very tall, narrow paths where you can easily just fall over. Like it it it's Your life is in danger a lot more of the time that than most people would probably be comfortable with. Tara 10:15 Mm-hmm. Sarah 10:16 Yeah Dave 10:16 Yeah, I think a lot of people don't realize that as soon as you get three hundred yards away from the cabin visitor center, it's sort of you're on your own. There's no more barriers, there's no more ropes. It's sort of like when you go to Iceland or the whole country's like that. They're like, here's a volcano. Tara 10:30 Yeah. Dave 10:31 You just park right next to the volcano. Tara 10:33 Yeah, there's no railing. Dave 10:34 Don't get out of your car on the other side. Get out of your car on this side. Tara 10:37 Mm-hmm Dave 10:37 Is it like so is that up ten times over? Omar 10:41 And on top of that, no cell service. Dave 10:43 Right. Tara 10:43 Right, mm hmm Dave 10:43 So if you fall you're you're fucked. Omar 10:44 Yeah. Dave 10:45 Right? Unless you got a satellite phone or something like that. Yeah, I know I think I think it's easy when you're just sort of like doing a road trip or something. You're like, I went to Yellowstone, yeah, what do you do? Well, I parked next to old Faithful and saw that. I went to the weird pools that are all different colors Tara 10:58 Yeah. Dave 10:59 You know, walked around the uh ropes on that one and then we uh we had to get on our way. Well, that's not really seeing the national park in the same way. Tara 11:06 No, there Sarah 11:06 Yeah. Well, and never underestimate the ability of people to think that they will be fine in a pair of converse. Dave 11:13 Yep. Right. Tara 11:14 Yes. Dave 11:15 Yeah. Tara 11:16 Or flip flip flops is what we would say a lot in Hawaii. Sarah 11:16 So uh huh, mm-hmm Dave 11:19 So that's what I mean. I think like for this show that the dumb tourists will be the catalyst for everything that happens. You know, the adventure begins with the dumb person doing this, you know, slipping on their converse. you know, head first into the the gooey whatever's and then we go from there but Tara 11:33 Yeah. Sarah 11:35 And then you find skeletonized remains from like the 60s, and then you could do a like historical murder mystery, or you know, it's the remains of that guy who disappeared in the 30s. Dave 11:42 Yeah. Sarah 11:46 Like there is material here The lead is fairly likable. I don't think it's like willing to commit to either the national parkiness or the procedurality enough. Dave 11:56 Yeah. Tara 11:57 Uh-huh. Sarah 11:58 So it's a little bit eh in the middle. Tara 12:00 Well, so I have a I have a representative clip and I I think we can probably be generous about how annoying it must be to write a pilot and all the information like you have to get in it. Dave 12:10 Yeah, Tara 12:10 But there are limits to the grace that I think all of us can offer. And a pigeon tests them almost immediately. This is from the second scene after the cold open. Dave, please play my extra clip. Clip 12:21 How's New York? I know I've said this to you before, but I'm worried about you. Molly, I gotta go look for a missing park ranger, my friend. Who's probably stuck in a crevice with her leg under a rock Don't shrink me right now. It's Zach's birthday this week. Yeah, I know. I was married to him. I literally never forget. How are you gonna get through this week? You know, work and wine. Besides, I'm leaving in two weeks. Dave 12:47 Okay, goodbye, Anna Pigeon. Tara 12:49 Yeah, don't shrink me, sis. Like that was so awkward, and like Sarah 12:53 Oh Tara 12:55 Even Canadians don't watch Canadian TV shows by and large, and it's because most of them seem like this, like they were written by high schoolers. So Sarah, was this another aspect of this that bothered you? Sarah 13:03 Mm-hmm. Not really. Like I was grading on a curve for that. At least they I had a sort of a grudging respect for like how blatant it was and how it was immediately like hanging a light on itself that Anna Pigeon. Tara 13:20 Mm-hmm. Sarah 13:24 It's like, yeah, I'm aware I was married to him. There's another part in the same episode where there's a whole lot of like, behold me, widow. Tara 13:34 Yes. Sarah 13:34 Not dealing with her trauma ex boss packed into 14 seconds that you're like, well at least they're just getting this done. Tara 13:37 Yeah Sarah 13:42 It's inelegant, but it's done. Tara 13:44 Mm-hmm. Omar 13:45 What one thing I did like is that it's it knows that it's that. It knows that it's not Prestige TV and it's not it's not Sarah 13:51 Mm-hmm. Omar 13:53 its reach doesn't exceed its grasp. It's not trying to be Prestige TV and it doesn't do the, you know, three days earlier, you know, start you from the you know, they just not doing any of that junk. Tara 13:59 Yeah Sarah 14:00 Oh, thank God. Tara 14:02 True. Sarah 14:02 Good point. Tara 14:03 True. The titular Anna, though, to Sarah's point is a very 2020s kind of uh capital S F C strong female character, meaning She drinks, she has, you know, no strings attached sex. She doesn't want to make friends with her coworkers. She's m keeps moving from job to job because she doesn't want to stay anywhere. Did anyone feel, I mean, Sarah, you said she was likable, that there was a spark in Winnipeg Zone, Tracy Spiridakos, who plays her, that suggested she might transcend the cliche she's been saddled with as this goes on. Dave 14:35 I don't know anything about the books, but I suspect that's exactly what the character is supposed to be, so get ready for more of it is yeah, I mean Tara 14:41 Okay Dave 14:43 These shows aren't very challenging. I think one of the hallmarks of them is you don't see a lot of character development. The character you get in episode one is pretty close to the character you get in the last episode, whenever that wraps up. Tara 14:54 Yeah Sarah 14:55 Yeah. Well, and this is why I made the monk comp, but all you could also say K Scarpetta, I guess, book version, not TV.yeah, any sort of anti heroine aspects of her are very gentle. Tara 15:10 Mm-hmm. Sarah 15:10 You know, it's nice to see Willie Jack from Rez Dogs, but And that sort of was like, oh, maybe I should hang on with this. But it's also like, I don't know, if it's on, I'm not gonna run away. Tara 15:23 Mm-hmm. Dave 15:23 Yeah, yeah. Sarah 15:23 Not necessarily gonna seek it out either. Tara 15:26 Sure. Dave 15:26 I think on Extra Extra Hot Great track, great. I think it's already happened. Doesn't matter anyways. Somebody asked a question about, do you remember Peacemakers, the old West version of CSI? And we're like, yes, of course we do, Tom Berenger, or yes. Tara 15:35 Yeah Sarah 15:35 Mm-hmm Dave 15:37 If this was more of that sort of semi-bonkers CSI take on it while still being this blue sky mood Sarah 15:44 Yeah. Dave 15:47 So like take away the night shift feeling of CSI and it doesn't need to be like high tech, but I just mean it's more of a physical examination of things as it plays a lot more into it. Sarah 15:48 Mm-hmm Tara 15:58 sí Dave 15:59 but also they lend themselves to the occasional 911 Lone Star-esque fanciful trip. Tara 16:04 Sure. Dave 16:05 That feels like a better sell to me than what we ended up ended up with, granted, not exactly the target they're going for, but that's how I would have remixed it to make it a little more appealing. Tara 16:12 Right. Sarah 16:15 Yeah, hundred percent. Dave 16:16 Mm-hmm. Omar 16:16 Uh my my number one reason to keep watching the show is Paulina Alexis uh from Willie Jack from from Reservation Dog. I think she's wonderful. I every time I see her on the screen, I light up. Tara 16:26 Mm-hmm. Omar 16:27 And um, you know, we've not this isn't a spoiler, but you know, I've I watched all six episodes and she does get stuff to do in subsequent episodes. You know, she gets her little moments and gets to be funny and and gets to wisecrack a little bit and you know all those moments were appreciated. And I I think most of the supporting cast is pretty appealing. Like I liked enough of them to want to keep watching and see what they're up to too. Tara 16:47 I'm never gonna warm to a Jeff with a G, sorry to any who are listening, but anyway Dave 16:53 That's why when you say your name is Jeff, she pauses for a second. She just whispers, J or G. Tara 17:01 To wrap up, I love the idea of a cop procedural that at least tries to do something a little different. The idea of it, if not the execution in this case. So I looked up a list of private police forces that might make more interesting shows than this. So do any Aspiring TV writers in our audience, here's some ideas. Various railroads have their own police forces, various colleges and universities, of course. Sarah 17:19 Mm-hmm. Tara 17:24 The coal and iron police is now defunct, but you could do a period piece. That would be cool. Ditto the Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company, if you want to get the uh product placement built in. Dave 17:35 They're after our blimp. Tara 17:37 Yep. I would accept a show about the Pinkertons if it was told from the POV of the labor organizers that they were trying to like bust up and or kill. Dave 17:41 Yeah. Sarah 17:45 Mm, hmm. Dave 17:47 Yeah Tara 17:48 The Smithsonian has its own police force, I believe, under the aegis of the Park Service, but I'm not a hundred on that. And then I discovered this, guys. NASA has an Office of Protective Services. Let's see NCIS, but with space crime, that would be so good. Dave 18:05 Okay, here's the scene though. They're on the shuttle, something bad's happened, you know, an astronaut is now dead Tara 18:09 Mm-hmm. Dave 18:11 And they just hear this knock knock knock and there's a guy doing a spacewalk and he shows his badge through the tiny little window in the cockpit. Tara 18:20 We cracked it Clip 18:25 Got a lot of shows. It's a great time for shows. Dave 18:29 Alright, it's time to go around the dial first up tower area. Tara 18:32 Yes, I watched The Last House. This is the Netflix movie. It dropped last week It stars one Oscar nominee, Wagner Moura, and one person generally agreed to have been viciously snubbed of an Oscar nomination for past lives, Greta Lee. They play Jason and Anna, husband and wife. They share a house in Seattle with their tween son Gray and their pre-tween daughter Ruth, played by some kids. I don't know, it doesn't matter. It's a perfectly normal day. Near Christmas, before Christmas, Jason gets back from a bad fishing outing to see the garage door weirdly will not open. When he gets inside, the kids alert the parents, the internet is out. They figure it's no big deal, turn it off and on. Then it starts to rain. Also no big deal at Seattle. Moments later, one of them tries to open the front door. It won't open. They can't open any of the other doors or windows. Jason takes a fireplace poker to a couple of the windows to try to break out that way, but they only crack and then it seems like the creepy rain sort of glues the cracks together. No one else on the street can get out either as they learn when they start communicating via chalkboards against the picture windows and such. And at first they just figure it's a freak weather event or something. Help will be coming soon. It's not. Here's where I'm gonna start spoiling the movie. Clip 19:49 Spoilers ahoy to loot do lo do Tara 19:52 Thank you. It turns into months and then years of being stuck in the house while all of their neighbors die. And starts a hydroponic farm with what's left of the last vegetables. They dig out the DVD player, they rewatch the only two pieces of physical media they have, which are Annie and Air Force One. Ruth, the two wise child, notices one day that some of the raindropes like follow her pencil crayon on the window as if it has some kind of intelligence. She also says she sees someone outside in the rain and that she seems nice, but Ruth is just a kid. No one believes her. By now everyone knows I would kill myself in this scenario. I would not still be around in a month or months or as we eventually see in this case, years. But I guess it's like the Handmaid's Tale also showed us parents can't just kill themselves to avoid the apocalypse. They have to stick around for their dumb wiener kids. This is pretty far down the list of reasons that parenting is a scam. It is on the list though. The team that brought this movie to fruition saw my ass coming, because they also give the family a very sweet very old golden retriever doggy named Cassidy. I won't go into specifics because I cared more about this dog than I did about any of the people, but He has heart medicine and it eventually runs out, and this is where the fact that Jason bought a gun at some point before the events of the movie comes into play. It takes so long for us to even see the monsters. I guess we're born from the crazy glue rain or whatever, but it's a multiple Cthulhu situation. One gets in the house A second time they tie it up, Ruth convinces Jason not to kill it, it opens the door, it stops four other Cthulhu's from killing the family, whose house falls into a sinkhole basically as soon as they get out of it, then they take a neighbor's boat, they set out on the ocean that has risen most of the way up the space needle, cause supposedly I guess it's better to be trapped on a boat than trapped in a house. Not that the house still exists. In the last second they get a radio message back from someone else, but if there's a laster house, I will not be watching. Long story short, if you get trapped in your house without the internet or TV, see if you can survive for a reasonable length of time For me, that is 18 to 24 hours. Then before the gas and power go out, you know what to do. And if you say, I have kids, your kids don't want to grow up in that world. Trust me. Clip 22:12 And then they're not on the top of the colour. Omar 22:19 Oh my goodness. I thought it was a home invasion movie, which I guess it kind of is. Tara 22:21 Nope. Well, it is in a sense just not the standard kind of, yeah. For my plug, the listen to sassy club, listen to sassy. com slash club. This is where you get, among other perks The full issue scans of every issue of Sassy as we talk about it and get excited because our next episode is the November 1991 pop culture episode. Yes, that is the issue with Jason Priestley on the front. So you know we booked Sarah D. Bunting to come on as our one of our very first ever guests. Sarah 22:52 Yeah. It was an honor. Tara 22:58 The third overall. So we talked about that and much more. So listen to sassy. com slash club for that Dave 23:06 Oh Mar, what do you got for us? Omar 23:09 X Men X Men ninety seven. Dave 23:18 Yeah. Is Birdman in the X Files or the uh the X-Men set one? Omar 23:19 Oh. Dave 23:22 No, he's DC, isn't he? Tara 23:24 Hawkman Dave 23:24 Sorry. Omar 23:24 No, they they need an anti pigeon on X-Men. Dave 23:25 Hawkman, that's right. Omar 23:29 So thank you. I only said it for that. Tara 23:33 Mm-hmm. Omar 23:34 So uh X-Men 97 um on Disney Plus, it debuted a couple years ago and is probably known as well for being a really good update adaptation of the 90s Saturday morning animated series. As for the behind the scenes drama, the showrunner, Beau DeMayo, who wrote and wrote a lot of the episodes in the first two seasons, was dismissed by Disney for reasons. There was a Dispute back and forth about that, so that kind of overshadowed a lot of the first season as people wondered, is it gonna be just as good? The second season. Given that Beau DeMayo wrote a lot of the season two episodes at the same time as the season one episodes, there's in pretty good continuity. I think the quality is just as good for the second season. I'm not a big X-Men person. I never read the comics. I know them from you know the movies and some of the other adaptations. So I'm not like your X-Men guy, but I found the first season to be really compelling. The whole X-Men thing is allegories. Like this there's like a Malcolm X and Martin Luther King kind of dynamic between Magneto and Professor X, which is interesting and explored in the first season. The second season largely focuses on a villain named Apocalypse, who has been a villain through Multiple eras of time, there's time travel. If you don't like that, that you might not like that. Really more complex storylines than what you'd expect from a from an animated series, even if you're not a big X-Men person, because there's a lot of references to storylines and characters that I don't know anything about, not being an X-Men person, but it's good. It's really entertaining. It's very well done and smart. A lot of smart thinking behind the show. So uh worth catching up on. Dave 25:04 Do they ha still have the character whose superpower is I Can Make Fireworks? Omar 25:10 You know that Jubilee is sort of the central character on the show. She's a teenager, but she's a nineties teenager. She has the Walkman and she and she you know and she g likes to go to the mall and really humanizes the show and and is a good access point and her fireworks actually are quite deadly. Like she actually there's a scene in the second season I'm glad you brought this up, where she does a battle scene against a bunch of thugs to the tune of a Veruca Salt's volcano girls, and it is badass. Uh it's in the second episode of the second season. Dave 25:42 Because usually when you get a character like that, the solution is, oh no, the July 4th fireworks display is being threatened by Cobra and their Bane machine. And they're like, all right, we'll send in Jubilee Omar 25:52 No, her fireworks are her fireworks do real damage and and she's a they made her a really pretty awesome central gateway character. Dave 25:55 Alright. Isn't she also a vampire or something? Maybe not in the cartoon, but I think that like they just kept on adding power lets to her to now she's just like a mishmash of things. Omar 26:06 Yeah, this character came back as a is a horseman of the apocalypse, literally Yeah, there's a lot going on, but they do a good job just balancing the huge stable of characters, Storm, Cyclops, Wolverine, all these characters uh and giving them all something to do and and making compelling storylines that actually have resonance with the real world. There's a real big immigration kind of angle to the story and the othering of X-Men, you know, with mutants versus humans and how do we coexist? Like there's there's a lot going on. Dave 26:32 Do they do the thing where it's like X-Men have their own island and with hookers and blackjack? Omar 26:32 And They do, and a big central storyline of the first season was that it is attacked and basically leveled uh by forces, and then that becomes sort of their nine-eleven, you know. Dave 26:38 Yeah. Right, right, Tara 26:47 Before you do your plug, um there's a piece at Vanity Fair very recently about the whole Bo de Mayo getting fired. The debacle, so we'll link that in the show notes as well. Omar 26:58 I would not be surprised given Marvel's recent track record with Wonder Man and other shows like that if they just canceled it after the two seasons, like even though it's Tara 27:06 Mm-hmm Omar 27:07 seems to be a big hit. I would not be surprised if they just said, we're just gonna pause it here and leave it until we figure out what to do next. Tara 27:12 Yeah, Omar 27:13 Uh I still write a lot of tech stuff for CNET uh almost on the daily, Monday through Friday. Um a lot of kind of newsy tech stuff about flock cameras and what Tesla shenanigans up to lately. So you can find my all of my stuff at CNET.that's where I do most of my tech writing these days. Dave 27:31 Sarah D Bunting, what have you been watching? Sarah 27:34 In addition to Anna Pigeon, at bestevidence. Dave 27:36 Damn it. Sarah 27:38 fi we keep a spreadsheet of recent and imminent true crime properties. Eve, Beatty, and I, uh titles, premiere dates, whether we had screeners, the huge, and there's a notes column in that spreadsheet. And next to Game Day Murders, mine was Shaq What are you doing? I still do not have an answer to that after watching the first episode. Dave 27:59 Sorry, did he kill somebody? Sarah 28:01 Uh not yet. Dave 28:02 Oh okay. Sarah 28:05 I'll get I'll get to it. Dave 28:06 Okay. Sarah 28:06 Uh A Killer Recruit, the show premiered with that episode July 24th on investigation discovery and did literally every single thing. You would expect from a reheated exploration of quote the deadly intersection of sports and crime to the point where I got up during a commercial to clean my office refrigerator. and did not turn back around, didn't have to. Well known case in the subgenre, covered more thoughtfully elsewhere, check barely a pun episode title, check, unfocused slow mo reenactments and mercilessly repeated photo assets. Check Listless pacing that does nothing to discourage second screen searching on Reddit. Checkity-doodah. This is perfectly predictable. We all know why game day murders and shows like it exist. We all know how they will exist in the world. The calories might be empty, but they will be consumed in a waiting room somewhere, etc. and so on. What I don't get is why Shaq had to make this and why he had to make this. Like, taking the second part first, Shaquille O'Neal is um democratically unchoosy in his television ad appearances, maybe, if we could put it like that. So that he would decide he wanted to put his name on a true crime thing and then not be especially troubled that it's garbaggio is not information we need to be sitting down to receive It's also not that hard to imagine the conversation that led to this, something like him mentioning to his team that he wanted to make the kind of true crime he himself is compelled by. And the team defaulting to, oh, such and so knows a guy at ID, I'll make a call. And then once the project's at ID, it's an ID project. It's not exactly a genre outrage, but the thing is, he told interviewers which specific projects inspired him to get into this genre. their projects I also admired and reviewed well, so why settle for making this C and why not actually make a show that he wants to work on that only he could make He's not the host of this. He doesn't do VO. He hasn't off-camera in interviews. Nothing. The man played college ball. He was in the NBA, doy. Documentaries about him exist. He has relevant insight into topic and into build, he is a personable figure in the culture, he could easily move into a Hillary Burton Morgan type of lane. an investigative series with a little practice. He could iterate on other basketball documentaries. There is material here, but the true crime series he wanted to executive produce in his one tall, precious life Is this? It just really seems like waste. It's not the only missed opportunity here. It's not like unwatchably poor, but that's like 90% of what's on basic cable in this genre at any given time. It's not good enough. Shaq, expect better of yourself and get out of those general commercials while you're up. They're they're beneath you. Tara 31:12 I'm sorry that the show is bad, but his gummies are very good Sarah 31:17 Oh yeah. Okay. Well, I mean if he's putting his real energy into that, I have no choice, etc. Tara 31:23 He should focus on those. Sarah 31:25 My full review at Best Evidence talks about it more. You will find that in the show notes, but my actual plug is my legal spouse, Dan Patrick Brady. He is in a new noir play. It's called The Bathroom Attendant. He is the titular attendant. It goes up Thursday the thirteenth and it runs through the 30th of this month. If you like baseball or blackmail plots or trying to spot which of the props came from our house or were made by me using a Louisville slugger and a Sharpie. You should check it out. Link in the show notes to that as well. Dave 31:59 Alright, here's what's coming up on extra Extra Hot Great this Friday for club members. We're going to be talking about season four of Reacher, the Man. Who reaches? Now, Tara's already watched the whole season. I've so far only watched the first few, but I can tell you the thrust of the season of Reacher. is that he always has sassy answers to cops questions. Tara 32:23 He is so much funnier in this season than he ever has been before, or that I remember him being, but he's yes Dave 32:26 Yeah. Yeah, I know absolutely. There's an interrogation scene between, you know, the good cop, bad cop, and one of the cops says, Do you think I'm stupid? He's just like, Yes. Tara 32:37 Most cops are, he says. It's great. Sarah 32:41 Gorgeous. Tara 32:41 Sarah, you're in for something. He this season takes place in Philadelphia. Sarah 32:45 Ooh. Tara 32:46 So, I mean, it's Sarah 32:46 All right. Dave 32:46 Yes, Philadelphia. Sarah 32:47 I'll get a water ice and check it out Tara 32:49 It's filmed in Toronto. Toronto is pretending to be Philadelphia. Dave 32:52 Yeah. Tara 32:53 Although there are a couple I can say this is not very spoilery. They did shoot on Vic on location for a couple of scenes of like local color. And that was also neat. Dave 33:01 The fight at the big cheesesteak sandwich factory. Tara 33:03 You're close. Dave 33:04 Yeah. Oh okay. Tara 33:09 Cannot confirm or deny Dave 33:11 Okay So that is available this Friday. Reach your plus so much more. Go to extrahotgreat. com slash club to join. And then come back here next week. We're going to be talking about lanterns. The comic book show, not just the thing that gives you light. Tara 33:25 Mm-hmm. Dave 33:28 Well, welcoming back after a too-long absence, Kate Sanchez to guide us through that one. It is time for the Extra Hot Great cannon. Presenting this week is our good friend Omar. Omar, take it away. Omar 33:48 I did Uh hello, esteemed panel. Today I am nominating Primal, Season 1, Episode 7, Plague of Madness to the Canon. Primal is an animated show from Samurai Jack and Star Wars The Clone Wars creator Genndy Tartakovsky that debuted on Adult Swim in 2019 and ran for three seasons, just concluding its improbable thirty episode run this last March. The basic story is about a Neanderthal named Spear and a T-Rex named Fang. Yes, Fang is a female dinosaur who becomes Spear's companion and unofficial life partner. after they each suffer the traumatic loss of their families in the first episode and decide that they're pretty good at keeping each other alive. From there it's a story of survival, kinship, and eventually as the seasons go on, the nature of life itself But the first season is largely about Spear and Fang navigating an incredibly unforgiving and brutal world of dangerous creatures, evil forces. and surprising discoveries. Like some of other Tartakovsky's work, there's almost no dialogue in the show. The storytelling is done entirely with stunning visuals, lots of action, and expressive grunting and facial expressions from its characters, even Fang. That makes it a challenge to pitch in the famously visual medium of podcasting, but luckily the show's music and sound design are just as top-notch as what's on screen. Plague of Madness, a seventh episode of the first season begins calmly with a herd of gentle Argentinosauruses, not bronosauruses, like I thought I had to look it up, in a field munching on their greens and minding their own business. It's beautiful and peaceful. Two dinosaurs even nuzzle their long necks together. But the peace never lasts long on Primal. One of the majestic dinos is interrupted by a pesky Parasolophusus Parasorophus Dave 35:32 Yep. Nailed it. Sp para sort of uh not gonna work here anymore. Omar 35:39 Parasoralophosalus a littily happy green dinosaur with its flesh coming off and obviously suffering from some terrible disease. Tara 35:43 Uh-huh. Omar 35:49 The larger dinosaur tries to ignore it, but ends up getting bitten in the leg by this dying pest. And I think you probably know where this is going next. Very soon, the injured Argentinosaurus is diseased too, trying to drink water and feel better, but vomiting blood into the community pond and crushing nests of eggs. It attacks the rest of the herd and soon they're all dead or dying. It's graphic and terrifying with the animation sparing no grisly detail or bodily fluid as the carnage takes place. Even for a show that regularly shows us blood and guts in grisly fights, this episode's portrayal of pestilence is extremely affecting and super disturbing. Not long after the herd is decimated, our heroes Spear and Fang come upon the scene. They're horrified by what they see. But just as they're trying to process what they've witnessed, Spear steps on some crushed eggs. and that might be a what awakens the last diseased survivor, who suddenly towers over them and gives chase. The music and sound effects convey the pulse pounding panic as Spear and Fang run through the woods just trying to get away The diseased Dino won't stop, pursuing them down a rocky cliff and finally tumbling to the bottom of a crevasse before getting up again for one more jump scare and then collapsing. Spear and Fang lie down, exhausted As they sleep, Spear has a terrifying dream of his own body melting to skeletal form and Fang dying of disease. We didn't know it at the time, but this would foreshadow some of the surprising turns that Primal would take in its later seasons When they awakened, Spear and Fang tried to decide if they should sneak past the seemingly dead dinosaur with what passes for communication between the two of them. They don't get off that easily though, as the Argentinosaurus wakes up and chases them some more, eventually leading to a lava pit, where, after more dodges and chasing, it catches fire as it tries one last time to do harm to our heroes. When the dinosaur finally melts into ash, Spear and Fang don't celebrate their victory or collapse in relief. They just stare sadly at the floating embers. Spear catches one in his hand as it goes from bright orange to dead grey. We end on that sombre note. Plague of Madness is a fan favorite among people who love Primal, and the episode earned Tartakovsky an Emmy win for Outstanding Animated Programme. Some of that might have to do with timing. The show's first season was split into two parts, and this episode aired in April of 2020. The theme of a terrifying disease spreading quickly and wreaking havoc resonated pretty hard at that moment, and the show as a whole felt very apropos at the time, with his warnings about the dangers of nature and how little control we have over it It's not an episode that conveys the breadth of what Primal does well. There are episodes that are much more emotional, showing the growing bond between Spear and Fang, and it often does so with very clever visual humor. And there are episodes that have a bigger human element, especially as the world of Primal expands beyond its two main characters. But Plague of Madness stands out as a superb animation showcase of its own. dynamic and affecting. It mixes moments of incredibly kinetic brutality with moments of quiet contemplation and beauty. It's tragic, it pulls no punches, it leaves us with haunting, indelible imagery that you won't soon forget. Primal ultimately is a show about the lengths we'll go to survive and how important it is to not go it alone, and none of that is meaningful if it doesn't also show us how awful and scary it is to die a terrible death as the last of your kind. like that poor giant dinosaur. Genndy Tartakovsky's next project is an animated take on Conan the Barbarian, something he's been pitching for decades. After you've seen Primal, it's hard to imagine anyone better to take on Conan. That's the bitch. Tara 39:28 Thank you, Omar. Sarah, you are more conversant with uh the work of Genndy Tartakovsky, so why don't you go first? Sarah 39:35 I had forgotten that this existed and I definitely wanted to keep going with the series or to start at the beginning after I had finished this episode, despite the fact that it was really Kind of exhausting to watch. Dave 39:49 It was, yeah. Sarah 39:50 Um, my only complaint is that it may have gone on a little bit too long and had like one or like three quarters too many big set pieces and chase scenes, but the cumulative effect maybe I'm wrong about that because I think the cumulative effect It's important to have seen all of the the horrible throes of this dying creature unable to control its predatory drive when before it was just a trees and leaves eater. Fang and Speer's terror, their traumatized exhaustion is all conveyed very beautifully, but I I think that you need the cumulative power of watching this creature that yes, it's trying to kill our heroes, but you have this strange like compassion for it as it is uh Thrashing its last in this lava pit. Then the cellos come in and the the ashes begin to fall and it turns from red to gray. that's something that Tartakovsky has always done really well in terms of the sound design. Like how many of my favorite Samurai Jack episodes came down to knowing for a fact that he had pulled a certain bird call from like a certain part of New Jersey that I was like, oh yeah. Okay, he was in the he was in the Wachong Mountains and and those are baby cardinals. That's amazing. How did he do that? Like I recognize those frogs. I don't actually know where he's from, but there is something about the sound design and the relentlessness sometimes of the not negativity, but of In Samurai Jack's case, the just like, I'm never in my own time, I can't seem to beat Aku, and yet I must continue and in this case you're just beset always by danger, apparently, of the most florid kind. So I think it all it all works together to create a very emotional moving experience in 23 or 24 minutes. I liked the moments of rest. Fang is basically communicating like, if you want to do that, all right, but you're crazy and I'm not going, and like kind of folds her teeny arms. Tara 42:06 Mm-hmm. Sarah 42:06 like metaphorically and then consents to go and then they like kick over a couple of pebbles and it's like oh I like that this kind of art still exists in animation and TV that's just like very thoughtful as to scene setting within the constraints of this format to to evoke. And uh he's he's one of the best there is, I think. So thank you for reminding me that this existed and I believe taking up 30 half hours of my time in the very near future because I'm excited to get back into it Omar 42:37 It's so good. I I promise you will not be disappointed. It's amazing, amazing show. Tara 42:41 I'll go next. The joke in our household is that Sandy thinks she is Dave's wife, Sandy our dog. And so it was fun to see in Primal that Fang really kind of is. Spears wife in every way that matters. The two of them do have a very loving, mutually supportive m occasionally, as Sarah said, sp suspicious um partnership. Speaking to the constraints uh that he's chosen to impose on this project, like Sarah also said is a great way to think of this and and the range of emotions that he could evoke in the viewer in this, you know, it feels long at times ca just because it's so relentless and so grim, but it's, you know, well under a half hour in actuality and um very remarkable. My notes include this fucked up little dinosaur is too upsetting and I stand by that. It's the first the first guy that stumbles out of the woods and, you know, quickly collapses. Sarah 43:32 Yeah. Dave 43:37 Just wanna make a note on one of the reasons why the infected version of all the dinosaurs are so creepy. And one of the big contributors is the slightly melted strawberry swirl candy eyes that they give them. Tara 43:51 Yes, yes. Sarah 43:51 Yeah. Dave 43:52 Oh, I just like such a good design choice. It was just like so alien and like it can't be anything other than madness, right? Tara 43:55 Yeah Yes, that plus their p naked spines are showing through uh out of their body because there's yes, they're they're not having a great time. Sarah 44:03 Yeah, they're clearly suffering, yeah Dave 44:04 Sure. No Tara 44:08 And especially as Omar said, you know, the the transition from the bucolic peacefulness of this Argentinosaurus heard. You know, they really are just chilling and then all of a sudden like horror comes to town in the form of this bite infecting their buddy, who then like kills all of them and their potential future young as well. What by the time they get to the lava field and he infected dinosaur like falls in and then pops out again, it's like, oh god, just die. Like it's Sarah 44:38 I know. Tara 44:38 So it really is it it it really does like it hooks you so intensely. So all of those parts are great. But they also the way they insert humor as well, like Sarah said. There's a moment when they're both sort of Fang and Spear peeking over the ridge where they've taken shelter in a cave to hide from this infected dinosaur. that may or may not be dead at this point and they both sort of like peek over. You just see the tops of their heads, both of them, and it's like really cute. There's another part Sarah 45:07 It is Tara 45:08 They're both he and Fang are both running, but like he's pumping his arms like back and forth in a very classic cartoony way while his ha face remains completely stoic, like it's not like a Scooby-Doo run and yet it is kind of. That was really well done too. Like the way character notes come into this almost entirely non-verbal production and the verbal we do here we don't understand is really remarkable for what it can achieve. And at the end of it I did say to Dave, I would watch this. Like this it sort of reminded me of Scavenger's Reign. Also on HBO Max, a wonderful one-season show that was robbed of a second season. A similar sort of a thing, but very different in the particulars. But similar vibe I would say. So yeah, this was great. Aga I'll echo what Sarah said. Thank you for bringing it to us. Dave. Dave 45:56 Yeah, I thought it was really great despite it being incredibly disturbing. Tara 46:01 Mm-hmm. Dave 46:01 Like at the end because like these guys are all good doogies Sarah 46:01 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm Dave 46:05 And the good doogie got bit in the leg and then the good doogie became prehistoric yeller and then we had to put prehistoric yeller down. Tara 46:05 Yeah. Yeah. Dave 46:11 That's kind of the episode Tara 46:12 Basically Dave 46:12 Except there's lava fields that the old yeller falls into that comes back up to all really angry and red. So there's a lot of upsetting visuals, but they're super effective and they're not salacious. Because there's an emotional underpinning to all this, it doesn't feel like like a Van Guria magazine, you know, put to screen. It feels like everything Sarah 46:33 Mm-hmm. Dave 46:33 has a purpose. So I was really impressed by how much they did with the constraints they put upon themselves. When Omar said, I'm coming back at you, another zero English dialogue cannon pitch after a Shogun. Sarah 46:43 I don't this is now Omar's lane. Dave 46:46 I'm like This is this is what he does now. Sarah 46:47 Okay. Omar 46:47 Yeah, I'm gonna go to the body. Sarah 46:48 Yeah Dave 46:49 And I knew about the existence of this show, but I hadn't watched it. And I I loved it. I thought it was really great, really affecting. And the visuals and the character designs were top-notch. The way that when something gets infected, they sort of like turn into a rat think illustration of themselves. It was disgusting and really well done. Tara 47:12 Mm-hmm. Sarah 47:13 Mm-hmm. Dave 47:14 And again, those creepy eyes and their skin that's always bubbling no matter what they do. Tara 47:18 Yeah. Dave 47:20 uh plague event was really well designed and then there's this thing and it's just being driven by whatever's happening in his brain now And there's a scene where he's chasing them through a canyon in a true sort of like seventies cop chase in a TV show fashion. One car can get out of the alley because it's a small little Japanese import. But the giant police cruiser can't. Sarah 47:43 Mm-hmm. Dave 47:44 It gets crushed and, you know, it can't get all the way through. And that's the dinosaur at the end of this canyon. Tara 47:49 Now, Dave 47:49 But then it just like is driven and just keeps on trying to get out of the fucking canyon. It's just like ripping the back half of its flesh just completely off to do so. So it's just these brutal moments like that that really sell everything that's going on in this episode. And I thought it was really well done. And I'm absolutely up to starting this from the start and see where uh see where it goes. Omar 48:11 Thank you. Uh I will say real quick, uh if you do watch it from the beginning and and see it through, Fang and Spear is one of the great TV love stories. Tara 48:18 Yeah Omar 48:18 I mean, I think their relationship just evolves and grows and by the end of the first, second season, you're like, I would take a bullet for either of these characters. Like they're I love these characters. Sarah 48:27 Yeah Tara 48:28 Amazing Dave 48:29 Alright, let's make this official Sara D bunting. What say you primal? Sarah 48:34 Uh, I say uh, that means yes. Tara 48:39 Yes, for me as well. Dave 48:40 Me too, so That means Primal Season 1 Episode 7 Plague of Madness. You are hereby inducted into the Extra Hot Great Cannon Clip 49:00 Americans love a winner. Yeah. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. Dave 49:05 It is time to discover who is our winner and loser of the week. Sarah has this week's winners. Sarah 49:12 I do. It is Pit Performers. First up is that Star Trek is getting a table read. Celebrating the WGA Foundation's 60th anniversary. I think there will be a live stream of this as well. Noah Wyle and Catherine LaNasa, among others from the pit, will be performing that. And the second one is uh Lisa Ann Walter is hosting the Astra TV Awards, and at those awards, Shawn Hatosi is receiving the Virtuoso award for his work on the pit. The Astra Awards recognize performers who, quote, make an impact. So It's kind of broad in people's choicey, but why not? Hatosi has been underrated for a while, and let's correctly rate him for a while instead. Bring him up to speed. Tara 49:56 Mm-hmm. Dave 49:57 And Tara, who is our loser of the week. Tara 50:02 She invited Jason Biggs, who is one of the hosts of Dinner in a Movie in the 2020s, onto her podcast, which is called Thanks, Dad. On said podcast, he elected To tell the world he is a foot guy, not something I ever wanted to know, and also show his own toes. This guy is constantly, I mean, he knows how to get attention for oversharing, and this is not the first time he's done it when he and his, I believe On her way to being ex-wife, they are separated. Jenny Mullen, like years ago, they made news for going on, I believe, a different podcast and saying, Oh, she engage the services of a sex worker for his birthday. It's like, again, this is not my business. Like, keep it to yourselves. Sarah 50:46 No. Can't I know it? Tara 50:48 But he didn't. Sarah 50:49 Thanks. Tara 50:49 Now that's knowledge I will have for the rest of my life about Jason Biggs and his foot fetish. Dave 50:54 Well, speaking about knowledge you're gonna have for the rest of your life, do you know what time it is? Sarah 50:58 Oh, game time. Dave 51:11 Welcome back to Game Time. Holy moly, tenth of the season. Tara 51:15 Whoa. Dave 51:15 Scores are Tara 4, Sarah 3, Value Guess 2. Today we are playing Shop the Show. It comes from Mr. Dan Cassino. Who earns himself a free shirt from the ESG store at throughmethods.com. Tara 51:32 Are there any more left that he does not already have? You're gonna have to design some. Dave 51:36 Oh, I made some just for him, so that maybe there are a couple that he doesn't have yet. Tara 51:38 Oh good. If Dave 51:41 There's one that says My name is Dan Cassino, and I'd rather be collecting presidential flashcards and something else than doing whatever. And he wore it to them all, so. Tara 51:51 Well That's true. We did get that information. Dave 51:55 Yeah. Tara 51:55 Well, if he doesn't have a New Jersey charm school shirt, now's the time. Dave 51:58 There we go. Sarah 51:59 Yeah. Dave 51:59 Alright, Dan writes. Every time I turn on Peacock, it urges me to shop the show and buy products seen on a TV show, replicas of props, etc. But how much should we be paying for this stuff? In this game, I'm going to give you a brief description of a real TV tie-in product or prop replica or something of the sort that you can buy. And you have to guess the price using popular pricing-based game show rules, so closest to the pin without going over Everyone bids on every product. You bid whole dollars. I rounded everything up for my sanity. And we'll rotate who goes first. So everybody gets the first crack at it. Here's how the points work. Closest to the pin will get one point. But then, based on how close you were to the actual price, you will get bonus points. We have gold, silver, and bronze tier. A bullseye is gold gets you four points. Something silver will get you two points, and then bronze range will get you one point. How far away you need to be will change with the round, so I will explain that when we get there. Tara 53:02 Okay Dave 53:02 But that's how you play. Alright We're going to throw it to Piggy to see who is going first. Clip 53:09 We will start with Tara Dave 53:10 All right. Tara, Sarah, Omar is our guessing order today, and we'll rotate who goes first for each question for the opening bids. No steel mills, no Grosswirth Equalizer Challenge Zones, 21 questions. Today, are we ready to play shop the show? Tara 53:26 Yes Sarah 53:27 Yes. Omar 53:27 Yay Dave 53:28 All right, this is round one. All your items are $50 or less. Tara 53:33 Okay. Dave 53:33 Everybody listen, everybody's gonna put a bid in on this. Here is your TV product. Days of our lives. A green polyester apron advertising Brady's Pub. It's an apron, so if you get slapped and spill something, it'll keep your clothes clean. Tara 53:51 Oh Dave 53:51 All right, so Tara, you have opening bid here. How much does that cost? Round it up to the nearest dollars how I did the math there. Tara 54:00 Twenty-nine dollars Dave 54:01 Okay, Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 54:03 Twenty two dollars. Dave 54:05 And Omar. Omar 54:06 That was my guess. Uh thirty dollars. Tara 54:08 Come on Dave 54:11 All right, I can tell you that the bullseye nobody got was thirty-five. If it wasn't for a close as the pin, that would have been a zero point affair. But Omar, you are technically the closest. So Omar gets one point, and that's all the points we're gonna give out for question one. Sarah 54:27 Oh, damn. Tara 54:28 Okay, great. Sarah 54:28 All right. Dave 54:29 Sarah D. Bunting, you will open the bidding for this one. Gray's Anatomy product. A replica of the blue post-it note that served as Meredith and Derek's wedding bows. It is a 5. 5 inch square sticker that looks like a post-it note. Tara 54:43 Mm-hmm. Dave 54:44 All right, Sarah D. Bunting. Think about that. How much do you have to pay for that replica post-it note? Sarah 54:49 Eight bucks Dave 54:51 Omar Tara Omar 54:52 Four dollars. Tara 54:53 I wrote down fifty dollars and I'm standing by it. I think they're gonna charge more Sarah 54:57 Wow Dave 54:58 50 bucks. Alright, here how wow. Alright. The bullseye, nobody got it. It was 10 Which means Tara is well over. Sarah is the closest and became within two. So you get silver points, two bonus points, Omar. Tara 55:13 Woo. Dave 55:16 You were too far away. Nothing for you. Sarah 55:18 All right. Tara 55:19 Good job, Sarah. Omar 55:19 Isn't it? Dave 55:20 Omari going to start us off bidding for Love Island merchandise, a chunky gold-colored bracelet with two bands, one reading Love and the other reading lust. How much you gonna pay for that love island chunky gold colored bracelet? Omar 55:31 Nineteen Nineteen dollars Dave 55:37 19 from Omar, Tara. Tara 55:39 Fifteen dollars Dave 55:40 $15 from Tara and Sarah. Sarah 55:43 Twenty nine Dave 55:44 29. Here comes the results. One point only for Omar. The actual target was $25. Nobody got that. Sarah was over, Tara well under, and uh Omar with 19 closest to the pin for one point. Tara 56:05 Good then. Dave 56:06 Tara, Saturday Night Live, a replica of the Mr. Bill Doll, bendable and poseable, four inches tall with an internal wire structure, so he can hold a pose. How much you paying for that? Tara 56:17 Nineteen dollars Dave 56:19 Sarah. Sarah 56:20 Mm, seventeen dollars Dave 56:22 Omar. Omar 56:24 Uh twenty two dollars. Dave 56:25 Twenty-two dollars. Here we go. The bullseye was sixteen. Which means no points. Everyone went over. Tara 56:33 Okay Dave 56:34 Sarah D. bunting. Oh, look at this. Opening bid for Brady Bunch merchandise. Sarah 56:38 No. Dave 56:39 A full scale replica of the Cursed Tiki Idol from the Hawaii trip. Made of solid resin with a rope attached. How much are you paying for a replica of the Brady Tiki Idol? Sarah 56:53 Mmm, thirteen Dave 56:55 Thirteen bucks, Omar. Omar 56:58 Seventeen dollars. Dave 56:59 Seventeen from Omar Tara Tara 57:01 Twenty three Dave 57:02 Twenty-three. Here we go. The actual price, Tara. Twenty-two. Sarah 57:10 Oh man. Dave 57:14 Sarah too far away for closes of the pin, so Omar picks up one more point for his guess of $17, $5 off. Tara 57:21 Nice Dave 57:22 Moving to Omar for the opening bid for this piece of merchandise from The Office. It's a white mug that reads World's Best Boss, just like the one Michael Scott has. 15 ounce capacity, microwave, and dishwasher safe. A white mug from the office, Omar. How much you paying? Omar 57:41 Eighteen dollars. Dave 57:43 $18 from Omar Tara. Tara 57:45 Twelve dollars Dave 57:46 $12 and Sarah. Sarah 57:48 Sixteen dollars Dave 57:49 Ooh, alright. The actual price was. $19. Omar very close. Everybody else out of the zone. So Omar picks up one point for closest to the pin, plus two additional points for being just one off. Nicely done. Alright, three-point pickup for Omar. This is the last question of round one. Tara 58:09 Okay. Dave 58:10 The prisoner. A very large four feet when inflated off-white balloon. Put a lot of helium in it, and it'll bounce like the rover from the show. Tara 58:20 Are you serious? This is something you can buy? Dave 58:22 This is something you can buy. Tara 58:22 That's crazy. Okay. Dave 58:24 So how much for the prisoner rova rover balloon? Tara 58:25 Oh. Dave 58:30 And we're gonna start with Tara. Tara 58:32 Thirty six dollars Dave 58:33 30 bucks from Tara. Ooh, 36. Sarah. Sarah 58:38 Forty four Dave 58:39 And Omar. Omar 58:40 Uh twenty eight dollars. Dave 58:42 Twenty-eight dollars. I can tell you that it was forty dollars. Sarah went four dollars over. Tara went $4 under, so she will pick up the only point today closest to the pin. Omar 12 bucks off. Tara 58:56 Woo on the board Dave 58:59 Alright, that is round one. Sarah 59:00 Yay Dave 59:01 It's time for the scores, please. Tara 59:03 All right, I have me with one point, Sarah with three, Omar on the lead with six. Sarah need to concur. Omar 59:09 Yeah. Dave 59:10 I got Sarah with two. Sarah 59:11 I I had myself a two Dave 59:13 Yep. Tara 59:14 Oh, okay. Dave 59:14 I've got one, two, and six. Tara 59:18 Okay. Dave 59:18 Yep. Okay. It is time for round two. The products now cost between thirty and one hundred dollars. Tara 59:25 Okay. Dave 59:26 Otherwise, same rules. The thresholds, instead of being one and two, are now two and five for gold and bronze. Sarah D. bunting, start us off. Sarah 59:34 Okay Dave 59:35 It is from Batman66. It is a replica batarang made of solid iron painted blue with a branded display stand, approximately six inches across. How much are you paying for that, do you think? Sarah 59:49 Mm, fifty-nine Dave 59:52 Fifty nine bucks. Omar. Omar 59:55 Uh forty Dave 59:56 Forty from Omar and Tara Tara 59:59 Fifty fifty five zero period Dave 01:00:00 Fifty five zero. The price was forty five Which means Omar picks up one point for closest to the pin and another point for being just $5 away right on the threshold of bronze. And Omar will start off the bidding for another one from Love Island. A set of Burning Love Press-on nails. 10 nails in pink and red patterns. Comes with glue stickers and an alcohol pad. How much you paying for the Love Island Burning Love Press On Nails Set, Omar? Omar 01:00:35 Thirty dollars. Dave 01:00:36 Tara. Tara 01:00:37 Ugh. Thirty-one. I was also gonna say thirty. Sarah 01:00:42 Thirty three Dave 01:00:43 33. I can tell you that at a price of forty-five dollars, that Sarah D. Sarah 01:00:52 Wow. Dave 01:00:52 Bunty picked up the sole point for closest to the pin. Tara 01:00:53 Wow. Good job, Sarah. Sarah 01:00:55 Wow. Dave 01:00:55 Guess what's next, guys? Sarah 01:00:56 Forty five Jesus Dave 01:00:57 It's a product from Love Island. Tara 01:00:57 Toenail clip? Hm. Okay. Dave 01:01:00 It is for Tara to open the bidding for a set of Love Island branded scrunchies. Tara 01:01:07 Mm. Dave 01:01:07 Three pattern scrunchies made of mulberry silk. Tara 01:01:12 Thirty two dollars Dave 01:01:13 Dirty Sarah Sarah 01:01:16 Forty two Dave 01:01:17 And Omar. Omar 01:01:19 Thirty six Dave 01:01:21 The actual price $50, which means we're only going to award closest to the pin, which goes to Sara D bunting one point. Tara 01:01:23 Oh, come on Omar 01:01:25 What Tara 01:01:28 Well, good job, Sarah. Sarah 01:01:29 Wow, Love Island, Fuck off. That's just rude. Dave 01:01:33 It heard you because we are now on to NCIS. We're gonna be bidding navally, Sarah D. Tara 01:01:36 Oh Dave 01:01:38 Bunting. Sarah 01:01:39 Oh, yay Dave 01:01:40 On a blue, a navy blue, see they're even doing blue navy, a navy blue C N C I S Unisex Windbreaker, as seen on the long-running show Tara 01:01:45 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:01:52 polyester with fleece interior. Tara 01:01:54 Okay, well first of all, I'm adding this to my list of possible gifts for Sara D bunching for Christmas. Go ahead, Sarah. Dave 01:01:59 Alright, how much will Tara be spending on you for Christmas for that item? Sarah 01:02:01 Oh my god. Tara 01:02:04 navally. Dave 01:02:05 Between thirty and one hundred dollars. Sarah 01:02:09 Oh my God, uh sixty five dollars Dave 01:02:14 Omar Omar 01:02:15 Uh, seventy dollars navally. Dave 01:02:19 And Tara Sarah 01:02:20 Yeah, sorry, C Bucks, I forgot to say. Tara 01:02:23 Forty five Dave 01:02:24 45. Okay, you all underbid quite a bit. Tara 01:02:28 Really? Dave 01:02:29 It's gonna cost you $91. Omar 01:02:31 Wow. Tara 01:02:32 Okay, scratches it off list Sarah 01:02:32 Sand dollars? Dave 01:02:34 45 65 70 Omar gets one point for closest to the pin Sarah 01:02:35 Oh Tara 01:02:38 That's too much to get someone for a bit. Dave 01:02:41 Omar! Sarah 01:02:41 Yeah, I don't know. Dave 01:02:43 The next TV show is Survivor, and you're bidding on a replica tribal council voting pen. Omar 01:02:43 Mm-hmm. Tara 01:02:47 Oh Dave 01:02:50 It's a black marker with plastic casing designed to look like wood How much are you spending for one survivor replica tribal council voting pen? Omar 01:03:00 You better not be spending more than thirty five dollars. Dave 01:03:03 35 tar Tara 01:03:05 Thirty-two, I'm gonna say thirty-two again. Dave 01:03:07 Mm, all right. And Sarah. Sarah 01:03:10 Uh thirty seven Dave 01:03:15 Alright, uh pretty close guesses for $40 pen. Tara 01:03:20 Wow Dave 01:03:21 So that means two points for Sarah for close as a pin plus a bronze guess and another bronze guest for omar for one point two to sarah one to omar next show starting off with tar for the bidding it's the walking dead A hardwood replica of Lucille, the bat that Nagan uses to great effect. Is covered in blunted barbed wire and painted red. Painted red with what? How much you spending on that replica bat? Tara 01:03:46 Boy. Dave 01:03:49 The bashy bat $57 to Sarah? Tara 01:03:49 Future murder weapon. Um fifty seven dollars Sarah 01:03:58 Sixty three Dave 01:03:59 And to Omar. Omar 01:04:01 Seventy dollars. Dave 01:04:02 70 even. Omar was definitely the closest to 76. Tara 01:04:08 Whoa. Dave 01:04:09 Omar gets one point for closest of the pin, and that's it for points. Tara 01:04:12 Okay. Dave 01:04:13 This is the last question of round two. Sarah will start the bidding for this item from Twisted Metal. Remember Twisted Metal? Tara 01:04:20 Oh, yes. Dave 01:04:21 Will Arnett as a big gargantuan clown dude? Tara 01:04:24 Sweet tooth Dave 01:04:25 Irreversible bucket hat that says sweet tooth. You know, like the evil clown on that show, who I don't think wears a hat, 100% polyester. Tara 01:04:31 Oh my God. No. Dave 01:04:35 How much are you spending for the twisted metal sweet tooth bucket hat? Bucket hats, reversible and back in style. Tara 01:04:42 It's like two hats in one. Keep that in mind with your bidding. Dave 01:04:44 Yeah. All right, Sarah, we're gonna opening the bidding with you. Sarah 01:04:47 Uh yeah, I have a feeling this is gonna be like shockingly high, so forty-four Dave 01:04:53 Omar. Omar 01:04:54 Uh thirty-four. Dave 01:04:56 Tar. Tara 01:04:57 I mean, I really was gonna say thirty five, but now I can't. So I'll say thirty eight. Dave 01:05:01 Why not? Tara 01:05:02 Cause it's a dick move and I already did it once. Dave 01:05:03 Yeah, exactly. All right. The guesses are in. I can tell you that Nobody got $43. Sarah D. Bunting $1 over. Sarah 01:05:14 Damn it Dave 01:05:16 And Tara just squeaking in on the bronze steer for one point plus being closest to the pin total two. Tara 01:05:21 Okay Dave 01:05:22 That's round two, one round left, seven questions left. Sarah 01:05:23 Nice Dave 01:05:25 Let's get the scores thus far. Tara 01:05:26 All right, I have me with three, Sarah with six, Omar with eleven. Sarah, do you concur? Dave 01:05:32 I also concur. Sarah 01:05:32 I concur. Dave 01:05:33 The spreadsheet with all the bath agrees with you. Tara 01:05:33 Thank God. Thank you, spreadsheet. Dave 01:05:37 Round three, one hundred to one thousand dollars. Sarah 01:05:41 Oh, Fuck. Omar 01:05:41 Oh no Tara 01:05:42 Can't wait to he hear if anything hits that threshold. Dave 01:05:46 Omar, here we go. Battlestar Galactica, the old one. Tara 01:05:51 The ship, it's lies, and it's a little bit more than a little bit. Dave 01:05:52 A scale replica of the Viper helmet worn by Dirk Benedict with LED lights and a base that signed by Benedict himself It even has interior fabric lining to make it more comfortable to wear. The thresholds are changing for round three. This is now within $10 to get a silver hit and $20 for your bronze hit. Alright, Battlestar Galactica Viper Helmet. How much are you paying for that? Omar? Omar 01:06:20 Two hundred and forty nine dollars. Dave 01:06:22 249 Tara? Tara 01:06:24 One fifteen Dave 01:06:26 115 for Tara and Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 01:06:29 Two twenty-nine Dave 01:06:31 229. Well, I can tell you we're all quite a ways away from One thousand dollars even Sarah 01:06:40 Oh Jesus, just make your own suckers Omar 01:06:41 What are you doing with your life? Tara 01:06:42 That's crazy Omar 01:06:43 Even Dave 01:06:46 That means Omar was closest to the pin by seven hundred and fifty-one dollars. Tara 01:06:46 Oh my god. Jesus. I thought we were in a recession. Sarah 01:06:52 So does he get a point? Dave 01:06:53 Yeah, one point for Omar. Tara 01:06:55 Alright, good job, Omar. Dave 01:06:56 Tara, start us off with this item from House of the Dragon. Omar 01:06:57 Good Lord Dave 01:07:00 It is a scale replica of the crown of King Vizga. Sarah 01:07:01 Uh Tara 01:07:05 Mm-hmm Dave 01:07:05 The one on TV was made of a lightweight resin, but this one is made of real metal and comes with a display stand as worn on the show by Vizor Something Targaryen. Tara 01:07:10 Oh, Dave 01:07:17 All right, we're going to start this off with Tara. What is your bidding for this crown? Tara 01:07:21 I mean, the hearing the number on that fucking replica helmet really changed this game for me. And yet I'm still gonna say 380. Dave 01:07:31 Three eighty is Tara's bid to Sarah. Sarah 01:07:34 Uh, three ninety-nine Dave 01:07:37 That's how you bit. That's a real dick move, sir. I can't believe you did that. Omar. Omar 01:07:42 Five hundred dollars. Dave 01:07:43 500 even from Omar. I can tell you nobody bullseyed. 350. No points. 380 too much. 399 too much. Omar 01:07:52 Oh. Dave 01:07:53 500 too much. Omar 01:07:55 But the battle strike alive to the helmet. Thousand dollars. Dave 01:07:58 Sara D Bunting start us off with our last item from Love Island. It costs between $100 and $1,000. Tara 01:08:04 Oh my God Sarah 01:08:05 Oh my god, it's the island. Dave 01:08:05 It is a Luna B branded metallic copper bikini that claims to be the epitome of glamour. Tara 01:08:12 Okay, I was gonna say it's five scrunchies if it's over a hundred, but this is close. Dave 01:08:12 Ooh la la. Yeah. Sarah 01:08:18 It's either love or the island. Dave 01:08:20 Sarah D. Bunting, you're starting off bidding. Sarah 01:08:23 One nineteen Dave 01:08:24 Omar? Omar 01:08:25 One fifty one. Dave 01:08:26 Tara. Tara 01:08:28 I'm gonna say one twenty five. Dave 01:08:29 Why do you keep on bidding in between them? Weird, weird strategy. Sarah 01:08:33 She didn't Dave 01:08:33 All right. I could tell you nobody got close to the actual price of $275. Tara 01:08:39 Get the Fuck out of here Dave 01:08:41 Which means that Omar with the highest bid of 150 will earn himself one point here. I don't think mathematically anybody can catch up at this point. Well, I guess you could if you start hitting some bullseyes. Tara 01:08:50 Mm. Right. Sarah 01:08:53 Yeah, that'll happen. Dave 01:08:53 Omar, start us off with the Twilight Zones item. It is an 18-inch Taki Tina doll. The doll is black and white, just like on the TV. And says all the creepy stuff she says in her episode. Talkie Tina doll Twilight Zone. How much for that? Omar 01:09:13 One seventy-five. Tara 01:09:14 That's literally exactly what I was gonna say. Uh one sixty. Sarah 01:09:20 So we have 175 and 160. Dave 01:09:22 That's right. Tara 01:09:22 Yes. Omar 01:09:23 Mm-hmm. Sarah 01:09:23 I really was gonna say 159, so it doesn't matter because we're both gonna lose 159. Tara 01:09:26 Say it. Dave 01:09:31 I am here to tell you the actual price is two hundred and thirty dollars for that doll. Omar closest One point. That's all we get. Omar with a lot of one-point pickups here. Tara 01:09:43 Omar, do you have an eBay store where you sell collectibles? Because I'm starting to get suspicious of how good you are at this game. Omar 01:09:47 I I'm very good at shopping and I shop a lot online. Sarah 01:09:51 An actual dinosaur from Primal costs this. Dave 01:09:55 Three questions left. Sarah 01:09:56 Oh my god, thank God. Tara 01:09:57 Okay. Dave 01:09:58 This is question Tara 01:10:00 Nineteen, nineteen Sarah 01:10:02 It costs n nineteen dollars. Dave 01:10:04 Tara will open up the bidding for this item from Thundercats. Thundercats, Thundercats, Thundercats, ho Tara 01:10:09 Okay. Sarah 01:10:09 Ho Tara 01:10:10 Sh sure Dave 01:10:11 Sure, you could buy a saw foam replica of the Sword of Omens, but this is the real thing. A little more than 100 centimeters long with a steel blade and finishes that look show accurate. Tara 01:10:24 Yeah Dave 01:10:24 The product listing note said it is actually sharp and should be kept away from children. Tara 01:10:28 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:10:29 Alright, Sword of Omens replica from Thundercats. Tara, how much is that going to set you back? It's somewhere between $100 and $1,000. Tara 01:10:36 Four hundred dollars. Dave 01:10:38 Sarah Seven ninety nine Omar Sarah 01:10:39 Seven ninety nine Omar 01:10:43 Show accurate, but the show is animated? Tara 01:10:45 I was gonna say it's made of paper Omar 01:10:45 Okay. Excuse me. Let's go big, eight fifty Dave 01:10:51 I can now report the actual price for the Sword of Omens replica is six hundred dollars. Only one not to go over, Tara, but she was $200 under, picks up one point. Omar style. Sarah D. Bunting starts us off with this item from Watch What Happens Live. The Clubhouse shot ski. Tara 01:11:14 I was gonna guess that. Sarah 01:11:14 Oh shit. Tara 01:11:16 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:11:16 It's a ski. I don't know what any of this means Sarah 01:11:18 With shot glasses Tara 01:11:20 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:11:20 With hold oh I see, it's a ski with holders for shot glasses and comes with four Watch What Happens live shot glasses. Tara 01:11:26 Mm-hmm Dave 01:11:27 Seems to be the size of an actual ski made of hardwood That's a lot. Alright, so uh I guess the ski shot sampler plank from Bravo, how much is that gonna set you back, Sarah? Sarah 01:11:41 And what comes with shot glasses, after all? Dave 01:11:44 Yeah. Sarah 01:11:45 Uh 220. Dave 01:11:48 Omar. Omar 01:11:49 Probably pay a lot for shipping too. Um Yeah, but we gotta add that. Dave 01:11:51 Well it's just it's just it's just the price the sticker price, you know the pay shipping is not part of this. Omar 01:11:57 But add that later. Uh $350. Dave 01:11:59 He's he's thinking about it because he's actually gonna order this after the show. Omar 01:12:01 Yeah, no matter how you go by this, yeah. Tara 01:12:04 I was once again really gonna say three fifty. Instead, I will say four ten. Dave 01:12:09 410. Here we go. Y'all overbid. Tara 01:12:14 Damn it. Dave 01:12:15 Some more than others. Omar 01:12:15 No, no, no. Dave 01:12:16 Sara D. Bundy, you're $20 off $200. Tara 01:12:19 Wow Sarah 01:12:20 Oh, okay. Dave 01:12:20 So no points in that round. Tara 01:12:23 That weight, okay. Dave 01:12:23 Last question, everybody. The scores currently are, according to me and my spreadsheet, Tara Ariano with four, Sarah D. Tara 01:12:29 Mm-hmm. Yep. Dave 01:12:32 Bunting with six. Tara 01:12:32 Yep Dave 01:12:33 Omar with 14. Tara 01:12:35 Yep, that's what I have to. Sarah 01:12:35 Okay. Dave 01:12:37 Zing Zang zoodle. Sarah 01:12:37 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:12:38 Alright, last one. Sarah 01:12:39 Supermarket swept Dave 01:12:39 Omar. Tara 01:12:41 Let's make it official Dave 01:12:44 Yellowstone, Omar. A replica of the hat John Dutton, that's Costner, wore on Yellowstone. Made to order with a buckskin body and a braided horsehair band. Replica Yellowstone Hat contains no Kevin Costner DNA. Omar 01:13:02 One ninety-nine Dave 01:13:03 199 from Omar. Tara. Tara 01:13:06 It has to be price that you want to spend it on your dad for a difficult gifting s occasion. Dave 01:13:10 Also, I'm just gonna repeat, made to order. Tara 01:13:14 Okay. Oh, okay. Thank you. I'm gonna say f $4. 99. Dave 01:13:20 Sarah? Last opportunity, guys, to get a bullseye. Sarah 01:13:23 Two twenty-nine Dave 01:13:25 Actual price that hat costs six hundred and forty dollars. Tara 01:13:30 Fucking Hell. Omar 01:13:32 Sorry, Dad. You're not getting one of these. Tara 01:13:33 Yeah, no one loves their dad that much Dave 01:13:35 Tara Ariano closest to the pin for one point. Wow, that whole round was all just one point carries, except the zero, the couple zeros there. Tara 01:13:42 Boy, right, yes. Sarah 01:13:45 No bullseyes at all. Dave 01:13:45 All right, that is regulation. Tara 01:13:45 Ooh. Sarah 01:13:47 Oof Dave 01:13:47 Let's get the scores. Tara 01:13:50 I finished with five. Dave 01:13:52 Mm-hmm. Tara 01:13:52 Sarah had six. Dave 01:13:54 Yep. Tara 01:13:54 Omar fourteen. Dave 01:13:56 That is correct. Sarah 01:13:57 Yeah. Tara 01:13:58 Woo! Dave 01:13:58 Alright, wanna play the tiebreaker? Tara 01:14:00 Sure. Dave 01:14:01 Alright, we'll let uh Tara we'll go Tara Sara Omar. Suppose that you wanted to spend the night in the actual cabin use for Rip Wheeler, played by Kohlhauser, on Yellowstone. Tara 01:14:17 Sure. Mm-hmm. Dave 01:14:19 How much does it cost per night to rent the cabin, which sleeps four and is situated with beautiful views in the middle of nowhere? How much per night? Is that gonna set you back? All right, we're going to go to Tara first. Tara 01:14:35 Eight hundred dollars. Dave 01:14:37 800 a night, Sarah. Sarah 01:14:40 Three thousand a night. Dave 01:14:41 Ooh, 3,000, quite the range, Omar. Omar 01:14:45 Four and fifty. Dave 01:14:46 And 450. Omar looking for a bargain. This will cost you $1,700 a night. So Sarah well over. Tara is the closest to the pin with $800 versus Omar's $450. Tara picks up one steel meal for future you. Sarah 01:15:08 Well done Dave 01:15:09 But let's not forget Omar won the day. Clip 01:15:14 Valued guest. Valued guest Dave 01:15:17 Thank you, Dan. Always loved the prices right games. Tara 01:15:20 Yes Dave 01:15:20 So much fun. Sarah 01:15:21 Uh huh. Dave 01:15:22 That is it for another episode of Extra Hot Great. We flew the coup with the National Parks Law Enforcement drama and a pigeon. Tara 01:15:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dave 01:15:32 Before going around the dial with stops at the last house, X-Men 97 and Game Day Murders Omar took us back in time for the brutal plague of madness primal episode for the canon. We crowned winners and losers of the week, and Omar was the winner of this week's game time from Mr. Dan Cassino. Next up, it's Reacher, the man who reaches on this Friday's extra, extra hot grate. Remember. I am David T. Cole on behalf of Tara Sarah Tara 01:16:07 I'm not leaving her to the vultures, Jeff, with a G. Sarah 01:16:13 The floor literally is lava. Dave 01:16:15 And Omar. Just so you know, Omar, I actually do copy the video just for archive sake. That's it. We'll see you next time. Clip 01:16:28 See, take only memories, leave only footprints. Easy, right?