Having A Big Talk About Reacher

Dave 00:00 Rolling off oh, chair, chair Oh pain Tara 00:12 Oh god. Sarah 00:13 Oh boy. Yep Clip 00:16 Dang. Wait for the four leave I took to kick it Tara 00:21 Well, at least I'm glad that you I mean, I'm sorry that you're in p terrible pain every day, but at least now you have accepted over-the-counter pain relievers or pretty much choose your own adventure in terms of how many you can take, as long as it's not Tylenol. Dave 00:34 That's gonna be the intro of the show. Let's go. Clip 00:37 You ate a cheesesteak at two AM?i'm in Philly. Dave 00:46 This is the Extra Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 424 for the August 15, 2026 weekend. I am $50 Flash Drive Sale David T. Cole and I'm here with Trivia Question on the back of a creatine box, Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 01:06 Who is Nikki Scarfo? Dave 01:08 And cheeses enthusiast Tara Ariano. Tara 01:11 Yeah. Welcome to Extra Extra Hot Great for another weekend. We're so glad that you're here. Thank you for your support. Thank you for strapping in for our discussion of Reacher season four in Hmm Dave 01:34 We'll wait a second here. Let's just see if everybody's been paying attention. We'll do this one word at a time. I'll go to Tara, then Sarah. Tara 01:40 Oh guy, okay who Dave 01:40 Reacher, the Close enough. Sarah? No. Who reaches? Tara 01:49 Yep, that's right. Dave 01:50 We're very close. Tara 01:52 Jack Reacher, Alan Richtson, loves to bop around this great nation, and this time his travels have brought him to Philadelphia. He's just trying to enjoy a late night cheesesteak on the subway when he notices a woman exhibiting several of the signs that she could be a suicide bomber, so he approaches lying that he is a police officer to try to gain her trust. It does not work and gets him pulled into her surprisingly complicated story. Nick Santora is the creator of the Reacher TV series, each season of which has so far been based on a different novel in Lee Child's Reacher book series. Season four is based on Gone Tomorrow. The first three episodes of season four dropped on Prime Video August 12th. We got access to all eight, but we'll not spoil events from the ones that have not dropped yet. Let's do the Chen check-in. Sarah, this was your first encounter with Reacher. Should our listeners watch it? Sarah 02:47 Oh my god, I don't know if our listeners should watch it. I am so excited that I have three whole unwatched seasons to go back to. Tara 02:54 Yay, Dave Dave Sarah 02:54 I love the show now. Yes, watch it. Dave 02:57 Sarah D. Bunting, you own a bookstore. I know it's true crime, but let's just say for the sake of argument, Dan had his own section and this was up there, right? Because Dan's into these books, as I recall, right? Sarah 03:06 Oh my god, if Dan opened a bookstore it would be every single one of these, some of which we own in duplicate, because he goes on a flight and forgets that he already read it. Dave 03:08 Yeah. Okay. S Okay, so if he had his own bookstore, would he, as I would, only put Reacher on the upper shelves? Sarah 03:24 But there would also be a grabber. Tara 03:26 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Sarah 03:27 'Cause he's a good guy Tara 03:28 Mm-hmm. Dave 03:29 I enjoy Reacher. I think this season is way funnier than the other ones and I am enjoying that a lot. Tara 03:34 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yes. Dave 03:37 So yeah, absolutely. Stick it into your face hole. Tara 03:39 It's a yes for me as well. Let's get into it. Sarah, we did not know when we picked this topic that Reacher was going to be telling Kevin Corrigan. Playing a cop Reacher does not respect, and with a partner played by a GLO alumna, that the reason Reacher comes to Philadelphia was to see the Phillies amazing pitcher in his prime. The show really started pandering to you almost immediately, and that was before we got to the adorable kitten, so I guess you're welcome. Sarah 04:07 It really did. In addition, Adam Rove from Joan of Arcadia Tara 04:12 Yes, mm hmm Sarah 04:13 Buffy alums, 90210 alums. I kind of love the fact that I immediately spotted excuses to cover parts of this season for Again With Again With This, our Cousin podcast. Tara 04:24 Mm-hmm. Yes Sarah 04:26 Like immediately that he's just eating a cheesesteak at five in the morning, she's like, Oh, this is a good breakfast. I had a feeling I would enjoy this, but Dan is very against non-text Reachiriana, so Tara 04:43 Huh, okay. Dave 04:44 Oh, purist. Sarah 04:45 I guess. And also, there's just a lot of TV, and I was like, does this set itself apart from whatever? But it has that like knows exactly what it is and does that really well Tara 04:56 Yeah, mm hmm Sarah 04:56 Bah bah bah ba bosh vibe, and then fucking Marshall Flinkman shows up as a CIA Manson crackpot, and I'm like, oh my god, why didn't anyone tell me that they were making a show specifically for me, Sarah D. Tara 05:09 Yeah. Sarah 05:09 Bunting? Tara 05:10 Mm-hmm. Sarah 05:10 Now I know. Tara 05:11 Yeah. Dave, you already mentioned this season feels funnier than others and I don't think we want a show in this category to become too self-aware, but ending the premiere of season four with Reacher having to be taken down with Multiple doses of Gorilla Tranquilizer tells me they they know what they are doing and why we are watching. Dave 05:29 Yeah Right. It's one of those smart dumb shows and it's doing a better job of it this season and I don't think it ever did a bad job. Tara 05:35 Yes. Sarah 05:36 Is it Dave 05:42 But they seem to be dialing things in better. The the moments of levity. There's a quick clip here that you clip for another reason that I just want to play. It's Reacher talking to somebody and there's food between them. Clip 05:56 Tell me the real story. Fries are communal. Go on. Sarah 06:07 Go on. I also love that he frequently answers just sort of like fillery type questions from law enforcement with like, why don't you have a seat? Tara 06:14 Mm-hmm. Sarah 06:18 No. Why don't you tell me what you're doing in such and so city? Tara 06:22 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Sarah 06:22 No, not unpleasant about it, but I just enjoyed that Dave 06:25 Yeah, and part of that whole shtick this season is that when he's actually talking to cops, he's like one hundred percent No filter, brain to mouth. Like Kevin Corrigan's character is like, oh do you think I'm stupid? Yes. Sarah 06:38 Yes. Dave 06:38 Like right away. Like just comes out and there's like a whole sequence of those. And that's when I was like, oh, alright. Sarah 06:43 Yeah. Dave 06:44 They're changing the formula. They're tweaking it this season. Tara 06:46 Yeah. Dave 06:46 I'm enjoying it. Tara 06:47 Or when he's talking to the feds who don't identify themselves and problems with the the army or the US government, he's like, tons He's delightful. And it does get turned around on him too when he uh later on asks the Kathleen Robertson character, like, Oh, can you give me a ride to the back to the hotel? And she goes, I could, and then leaves Dave 07:06 Yeah. Tara 07:07 So it goes both ways. Dave, it feels fair to say that Reacher has two modes. He's either the still stoic point around which the action swirls, or he's the dervish who is tearing guys' arms off. Were you satisfied by the balance of these two modes over the first three episodes of season? Dave 07:24 Yeah, yeah. I think the easiest example for that is the moment where he finally gets captured with gorilla tranqs. They send him and his buddies to a like a CAI black site, some uh abandoned warehouse next to Flinkman's Fl Flinkman's Tara 07:41 Yes. Dave 07:41 House and then he escapes, even though he's in chains and he's half trank still, probably. He does say at the beginning of the interview, I I I will whatever, jab this pen in you or do something bad and of course by the end of it that exactly happens. Tara 07:55 Mm-hmm. Dave 07:59 So that five minute stretch right there is what makes Reacher really fun. It's like Oh yeah, well here's the thing I'm gonna do to you. And it's like feels impossible, but of course it will come to pass. You know, like Yoda having a premonition, except it's really violent. Tara 08:15 Sarah, is this what you were expecting or hoping for? Or was it more than you could have dreamed in terms of the violence? Dave 08:22 Yes, your bloodlust is it satiated? Sarah 08:25 This is about the level of rib crunching that I expected, and uh yes, I was satisfied, I would say. Tara 08:30 Yes, yes Sarah 08:34 I found myself thinking like, kudos to the casting agents, because not only do they have to find this just endless supply of beefy looking guys who would look credible that like three of them could kung fu movie style like swarm reacher Dave 08:46 Yeah. Tara 08:51 Yes. Sarah 08:52 and actually have a realistic hope of prevailing. And they found the absolute perfect kitten for him to be cradling in his arms in the front of a minivan. So uh yes Tara 09:02 Yep. Sarah 09:03 Kudos to the casting agents, but also I think it is the right proportion of violence, but then in between it's not like you're sort of board drumming your fingers waiting for another knuckle splitting fight to break out. Tara 09:15 Mm-hmm Sarah 09:16 It's it's uh it's proportioned correctly, I would say Dave 09:19 Mm-hmm. Tara 09:19 Yeah, well part of the character is Reacher is obviously very big, but he's also really smart. So that that makes both sides of it satisfying, in my opinion. Dave 09:26 Yeah. He's so big, if you haven't watched the show, the way it would explain Sarah 09:29 Mm-hmm. Dave 09:32 Explain it. If the three people that Sarah were talking about sort of don't go anywhere kid style at a picnic where they just grab onto your legs and one on your arm and you just still just walk away with them, he could do that with grown giant bruiser men. Tara 09:45 Yes, yes. Sarah 09:46 Mm-hmm Dave 09:46 That sort of is his shtick. Tara 09:48 Mm-hmm Dave 09:49 But yeah, I think Sarah is right. I think like the v marquee events are great, but they're not the only thing that brings you to the table. Tara 09:58 Yeah. And they do every season alwa also have the moment where like Two little guys are like, we could take him. There's two of us and you know, it's not enough. Four guys is not enough. Dave 10:07 People people gotta learn Tara 10:09 They do gotta learn Sarah 10:10 Mm-hmm. Tara 10:11 Reacher gets new compatriots every season. In season four it's Detective Tamara Green, who's played by Sidel Noel from Glow and Mayfield, New Jersey police officer Jake Merrick, played by, as Sarah already mentioned, Christopher Rodriguez Marquette from Joan of Arcadia. Dave, how interesting do you typically need characters in this category to be and did they m meet your standard? Dave 10:33 I think in Reacher they have two purposes. Not that it's unique to Reacher. One, they have to be kinda dumb about things so Reacher can explain how cops actually should do things. And then he needs help from them. You know, he d he needs the plates run. He needs, you know, the this and that. Very Rockford files esque actually. Tara 10:51 Yes. Dave 10:52 And that seems to be their function, and that is not unique to this show. It's sort of just one of those tropes about a hero and the cops. That's sort of the dynamic between them. It doesn't change it here that much. Tara 11:05 Yeah. Sarah, were you interested by them Sarah 11:09 Yes, I was, and not just because of these actors who I was happy to be reunited with, but it is a more delicate balance than The show makes it look like the show, at least in this season, makes it look pretty easy, or like these are the obvious sort of teammates for him within the story. But they have to know enough. Or kind of get on board with the idea that there's a larger conspiracy at work and they're in danger pretty quickly, but not too quickly. Like It's only me who uses this phrase, but I call it the poltergeist equation, I guess, which is like you need the people in a jump scare like horror movie to get on board with the fact that they're in a horror plot really quickly in my opinion. Tara 11:56 Yeah Sarah 11:56 You can't have like more than I'm gonna say 15 minutes of dicking around and being like, ghosts, what are those? Tara 12:03 Uh-huh. Sarah 12:03 This is kind of the same thing that if you have two people like this who are law enforcement, I mean, okay, Mayfield PD is like, you know, Mayberry. Ha, we get it But they pretty quickly sort of sign on to the idea that there's shit going on they don't know about, and Reacher knows slightly more than they do, and is an effective literal battering ram to get to information, and that was pleasing, so. Dave 12:30 Yeah. And the backstory of Reacher is that he's a military police investigator/slash cop I mean pol uh military police. So he also is sort of like part detective as well. He's very Batman-esque, basically. Tara 12:42 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Dave 12:44 He's Batman without the cowl, kind of. Tara 12:45 Mm-hmm. Dave 12:46 So that works too. Tara 12:47 Also has to turn his head like this. Just his shoulder his shoulders. Dave 12:49 Boy, I love Reacher and I'm glad it's here, but uh boy, I think that guy's doing damage to himself. Sarah 12:50 Mm-hmm. Dave 12:57 I think he you know, he's gonna hit Stallone years where he's just he just has like move like a tank back and forth. Tara 13:03 Yeah. Dave 13:03 That's it. Tara 13:03 Well, especially since we not too long ago watched Alan Richtson, like still a big guy, credible as a football player in Blue Mountain State, but like Dave 13:12 Normal non-augmented, yes, let's say Tara 13:14 Yes, not not so Dave 13:16 And when I say nog augmented, I mean his his very long and effective weight training routine. Tara 13:23 Yes. Dave 13:24 Wink. Tara 13:25 Well, who knows? Dave 13:26 Yeah, who knows? Tara 13:26 Who knows what he does to make himself look like he's from Minecraft? That's none of our business. Dave 13:33 He does look like uh Spear from uh Primal. Tara 13:35 He and him too, it's true, if we could see him barefoot. Sarah 13:37 Hmm. Dave 13:37 And he runs like him too, yeah. Sarah 13:38 I was gonna say, what's the I'm not even sure if it's a Marvell character, entirely made of rocks? Tara 13:43 Oh thing. Dave 13:44 Did you just say Marbell? Tara 13:45 He said Marvel she said Marvell, like Elizabeth Marvell. Sarah 13:45 Yes. I do I do it every time, I'm so sorry Tara 13:49 Thing. The th thing from Dave 13:52 I love Mar. Let's always call it Marvell from now on. Sarah 13:56 It's Marvellus. Dave 13:56 Please. We were talking while you were gone that we might go see the new Marvell film Spider-Man Something Home Something. Sarah 13:57 What It's spelled M A R V E L L E. Dave 14:07 Yeah. Tara 14:07 Yes. Tech question for you, Dave. Dave 14:09 Uh huh. Tara 14:10 This season has a MacGuffin in the form of a flash drive. Dave 14:13 Yeah Tara 14:13 Is this the marker of a season based on a novel from 2009 or is it still credible as a plot device? Dave 14:19 Yeah, I mean I'm not in the corporate space, so I don't really know how much flash drives get used today in 2026, but I know I haven't used one since Tara 14:27 Yeah. Dave 14:30 I had to do a my gaming PC is really fucked up and the only way to reinstall the OS is somehow to put Windows on a flash drive because it's just that fucked up. Tara 14:39 Yeah Dave 14:40 That was the last time I ever had to touch a flash drive, and that was probably I think we were in Hawaii still, so that was seven years at least ish. Tara 14:46 Mm-hmm. Yeah Dave 14:48 So I was sort of amused, but it doesn't really, you know, how do you gonna have that park meet if your documents are in the cloud? Tara 14:57 It's true. Dave 14:57 Does Reacher come with a little MacBook Neo and just pops it up? It's like, yeah, you got you know, I can I borrow your hotspot on your phone? Tara 15:04 I was gonna say. Dave 15:04 And then like he types it in. Yeah, it doesn't doesn't Tara 15:06 It's on his phone. They bump their phones together. They do that thing. Sarah 15:08 Yeah Dave 15:09 Yeah, so it's just one of those. Uh I don't think there's a better alternative, but yeah, it was kind of funny. Tara 15:14 I'm also not sure, just based on what the apparently dozens of federal workers in our Discord have said about their systems, like the piece of information that's on this drive was taken from Dave 15:22 Yeah. Tara 15:27 like a federal database basically. And I don't think that would be allowed. Like I don't think it would work, you know. Dave 15:35 Oh. Tara 15:35 Not I mean, obviously not be allowed, but I don't know if it would work based on how their systems work. Dave 15:39 What do you mean, not work? Tara 15:40 that you could that there would be m safeguards in place to stop data being moved around like that. Dave 15:45 I mean, not really. I mean, even if there was some magical way for a file to get on your computer and you not being able to get it out, just pull at your camera and take pictures of whatever's on your screen. Tara 15:47 All right. Well true, yeah Dave 15:57 You know, there's just ways around it. Tara 15:59 Speaking to my own expertise, I cannot believe it's taken until now for me to see a crank-operated compact shelving system like in library stacks used as a murder weapon, but it it was great. Sarah 16:11 Oh my god, yeah. More bunt nip that it was like, oh, where the old stuff is. Dave 16:14 Uh-huh. Sarah 16:16 Like, hmm, guess I don't really care about the integrity of the mid-century archives. Dave 16:22 So so w as soon as that scene came up, one, I was thinking, does anybody actually have a food pantry on that? Like they just have so much food they have to employ one of these things and are like super rich so they don't care. He actually crushes somebody in between them, not just like knocks them out, but he keeps on going until blood spurts out and they are dead. Tara 16:37 Mm-hmm. Until till black Yep. Sarah 16:40 Yeah Dave 16:41 And they just throws him in the coal bucket or whatever they have there in the basement of the library. Tara 16:43 Mm-hmm Yeah. Dave 16:46 That was a great scene. I really enjoyed that one. Tara 16:47 Yep. Delightful. Dave 16:48 Yeah. Sarah 16:49 Mm-hmm. Tara 16:49 You already played the clip, but let's uh let's close out with our judgments on this. Our fries communal, Dave. Dave 16:56 Oh. Well look, I don't wanna like, you know, be that wishy washy answer, but I would say fries are communal after they hit a certain size. Tara 17:05 Mm, mm-hmm, yes. Dave 17:05 If you get a small bag of McDonald's fries, you know, the ones that used to have quite a few fries in it, but you buy them down and there's like three in it, I would say that's not communal, that you have made a statement that these are buy fries. Tara 17:13 Yes. Sarah 17:13 Mm-hmm Tara 17:18 Right Dave 17:18 I think once you get into the large size and certainly the basket size that they have now or the equivalent thereof, then fries do become communal and there's nothing you can do about it. Sarah 17:23 Mm-hmm Tara 17:27 Mm-hmm. Dave 17:29 And you also can't cheat the system by buying three small fries and saying they're all communal. It's an aggregate that equals large fries. Tara 17:37 Mm-hmm. Sarah 17:37 Well, what about I have a certain way I want my fries dressed and the co the commune has to live with it? Dave 17:43 Mm. Yeah, I think that's fair. Tara 17:44 Mm-hmm. Dave 17:45 If you paid for them, you get to dress them, and if somebody can stand what you dressed them on, they're still communal. Sarah 17:50 Mm-hmm. Tara 17:50 Yeah. Sarah 17:51 I agree. Tara 17:52 I think we solved it. Dave 17:53 Okay, great. I think let me just check. Sarah 17:58 Are we already closing the food portal? Clip 17:59 Enough! I'm so sick and tired of hearing you people talk about food, food, food! Dave 18:00 Yeah. Tara 18:04 Whoa! Dave 18:08 We take our duty seriously here on this podcast. Sarah 18:12 Fuck it eh Dave 18:12 Alright everybody, it's time for everybody's favorite ask and answer segment. It is AskEHG. Reach All right, it is time to figure out who won last week's Ask Ask EHG where we flip the script and you must answer a question. for us. Let's spin the wheel adjustment to see who is going to judge this week. That's a weird sound for a thing to make, but that's what it did, and it landed on Tara. Tara 18:57 Yes, it's me Dave 18:58 Oh wait, I got a better one. Here we go. Let me spin the wheel of judgment. All right, it's Tara. Tara 19:06 It's me and our question last week that we asked of you, or rather Bezoar Laura asked of you was Who is your favorite TV chaos agent and what is your favorite example of the chaos they set in motion? I had one I didn't see anyone say, which is Bill McNeil of News Radio. Dave and I recently completed our latest rewatch. I'm gonna say this is rewatch number five or so, at least Dave 19:31 At least Tara 19:32 Just some of the examples of him being a chaos agent trying to be a knockoff Mark Russell, that is in the public domain episode, which is in the c in the canon, of course. Dunting with a cane, perfect cane weather, hiring Cadbury, the gentleman's gentleman out of the penny saver, to come and do things like a boogie dance to amuse him. and terrorizing the office after he is forced to quit smoking by new rules in the building. Uh so just a few. Some of your answers, the runners up include Monty, who writes Jason Mantzoukas and everything he's ever been in and one suspects real life. Dave 20:10 Yeah Sarah 20:11 Yep. Tara 20:17 probably why everything possible happens to him. But our winner is sincerely this nurse. Gotta be Q from Star Trek TNG.he's a shit stirrer from episode one, but I'm particularly partial to the one where he plays Bitchy Mentor to Nuke played by Olivia D'abo from The Wonder Years. Good one. Love it. Contact Dave on Discord. Get your stickers Dave 20:44 All right, let's get into your questions for us. First one comes from Rube Goldberg. Are there clips on the soundboard that you thought you would use more often than you actually have? It's been a minute since I heard the cold case howl. And I may have said hello, old friend, out loud during the uh most recent episode of Extra Extra Hot Great. There are There are a lot, but I'm gonna play five of them for you. Actually, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna try to fit these into the show semi-naturally. We'll see how many I get through. So there's five that I picked that I feel like didn't get their due, and we'll see if we can squeeze them in. Alright. Tara 21:21 All right. Dave 21:21 Drydendon. Tara 21:23 He tried engine tried Dave 21:25 What is your TV genie wish and what is the dark twist the genie inflicts upon said wish? Tar. Tara 21:33 My wish is bring back 22 episode TV seasons for Tara the Viewer and the Dark Twist is Tara the critic gets another full-time critic job and preparing to write reviews takes fucking forever now that there are 22 episodes to watch instead of like eight. Uh, but seriously, if you do have a full-time TV critic job, hire me for it, even if these are the conditions. I I will take it. Thank you. Sarah. Sarah 21:57 That every figure in TV who has assaulted or abused others just winks out of our plane of existence and into another one, leftover style, some Shitty anonymous place from which it's not possible for them to return, where they have to live with the consequences of their actions. Of course, the dark twist for everyone is that it's probably a way higher percentage than the Two that got clipped from the leftovers, and there will be a not insignificant number we didn't know about, and we'll be gravely disappointed by worth it, in my opinion, Dave. Dave 22:28 Similar to Tara. The wish is all TV shows go back to weekly episode releases, so I'm not compelled to watch eight episodes of a show just in case the lead is revealed to be an alien in episode six. The terrible twist is all TV shows now have a lead that is revealed to be an alien in episode six. Sarah 22:40 Uh-huh. Tara 22:45 No, no, no. Sarah 22:47 Of twenty-two. Wow, where do you go from there? Dave 22:48 Yep. GRISLY Clare Zoe Saldania is Uhura, says Grizzly Clare, in the movies. Sarah 22:53 Hmm Dave 22:57 Anson Mount is Captain Pike and Strange New Worlds. So it stands to reason that the Crossroads co-star Brittany Spears will be next in line to join the Star Trek universe. Not a question. Will we answer it? Did anybody have an answer for this? Tara 23:13 I mean, I assume the untold end of that is right. And my answer is yeah, right. Sarah 23:18 Yeah, mind you Tara 23:18 Yes. Dave 23:20 Here's an actual answer for you then. Strange New World should do a TOS style end credit stills for their last season, and Britney should be the uh Orion dancer that we see in the original one. Sarah 23:31 Sure. Dave 23:32 Jovial Gent, what TV dog would make the best TV lawyer? I think Cheddar probably knows some shit about what shady cops do. I think he'd make a good lawyer. Tara 23:39 Mm. Mm-hmm. Brian from Family Guy, he can talk. He might be a lawyer for all I know. I do not watch that show. Sarah. Sarah 23:48 Tiger from the Brady Bunch. If you do not have evidence or statute on your side, create tumult Dave 23:55 Planty plant plant! Who are your favorite project runway contestants of all time? Of all time, Tar? Tara 24:02 This was tough because I did go and consult the full list on Wikipedia, and after they got about four seasons deep, I was like, I don't remember any of these people at all. Sarah 24:07 Same Tara 24:11 So In terms of design, I'm gonna say Jay McCarroll, who won season one, I still think about his Empire State Building dress and some of the looks in his final show as a personality, though I do also love his designs. Sarah 24:19 Mm-hmm. Tara 24:25 Still to this day, Christian Siriano, the winner of season four. Sarah Sarah 24:30 Yeah, that was sort of my take that I was like, oh yeah Oh yeah. But then a lot of them only became my favorites, like Kateau or Fabio, thanks to All-Star Seasons, which were great. Tara 24:40 Mm-hmm. Sarah 24:41 But Daniel Vosovich, Kelly Dempsey, and Christian, of course. And uh Michael Knight from season three, R. I. P. Dave 24:49 Do you want me to hem that dress for you, Michael? Tara 24:52 Was Michael with a Y Dave 24:54 Oh. Jovial Jen, he's back. What self-care tip would you yell at strangers? Sarah. Sarah 25:01 Eyes up. Like, kind of for safety. My neighborhood you have to be on a swivel for stoners running lights and dumb kids racing scooters on the sidewalk, but smartphones have just made a total lack of awareness of the existence of other people endemic, so some of this is me being a Gratchy Grandpa, but it's also advice that I could use daily and am happier for take it. Look around, notice stuff, be bored. for 90 consecutive seconds or charmed as the case may be. Get your face out of threads. It's not real life. Stand up straight. Tara. Dave 25:36 Flibbity flu. Tara 25:38 Look both ways, Dave Dave 25:39 Oh, I see. I see I took this differently. So this is what I would yell at people. Those flip-flops are not everyday walking around shoes. You're fucking up your feet. I thought that was the question. Sarah 25:49 I considered that one. Dave 25:50 Yeah. Alright. Erica, your octopus friend, has one for me. Whose voice is that saying the names of the winners in those little stings at the end of the game? Kirk Hamilton did the original batch, so that was Tara Joe and Value Guest, but the voice isn't his. It's a friend that just happened to be at his house that day. Sarah 26:09 Does sound pretty similar to him though. Dave 26:11 Don't know his name. Sorry dude, but thank you. He's also the guy that does Is this worse than Jazz? Me and Sarah's were done in the same style as that by Adam Blau, Dan's brother. Diana, who is your favorite nepo baby? Your favorite nepo baby. Oh, I love that. Tar. Tara 26:32 It's Dakota Johnson. She's a nepo baby twice over. She's the child of Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith. And we all owe her a debt for starting the uh real backlash against Ellen DeGeneres with her um calling her out on the episode. Sarah 26:49 Oh well. Tara 26:50 A great moment in television, honestly. Truly, still to this day, I think about it like once a week. And also she's a great advertisement for bangs. Sarah. Sarah 27:01 She really is. Someone should tiny can in that moment, perhaps It was very close for me here between Wyatt Russell and Jack Quaid. I kind of didn't want to call it, but Jack Quaid is also times two, and somehow the times two-iness netted out in him looking like Joshua Jackson, which is not bad for anyone, including Joshua Jackson, so that is my answer. Dave 27:24 He's like Joshua Jackson, but he's mixed with 13% Budhead from Beavis and Budhead. Sarah 27:30 Oh, oh yeah, I see what you're saying. Dave 27:32 Yeah. His hair mostly, I think. Sarah 27:34 Forehead. Dave 27:35 Not my favorite, because honestly, who gives a shit? But I did find out looking up names of nepo babies that Kevin Smith named his daughter Harley Quinn Smith Tara 27:44 He sure did. Dave 27:44 That poor kid. Tara 27:46 Mm-hmm. Dave 27:46 Oh my god. Tara 27:47 Yeah Dave 27:48 As Dan Cassino says, I'm real horny for this character. What can I do with that? Oh, I know. Name my daughter Harley Quinn. Like, yes. God damn it, dude. Tara 27:57 Oh God. Sarah 27:58 She and Kahl need to get married. Dave 28:00 Yeah. Alright, Joe Vent has another question for us. And by us, I mean Tara and Sarah. Make an Avengers style team up with people from the Darren Star universe plus their nemesis. Throw that in the mix. Sarah. Sarah 28:14 How many of these am I supposed to do? Dave 28:16 What do you mean? Tara 28:17 I did one, two, three, four. I did five. Dave 28:20 Oh, like how many people in the team? Tara 28:22 Yes Dave 28:22 I see Sarah 28:23 Yeah. Um, okay. I have I think that many teams. Brandon Walsh and Professor Randall. Tara 28:30 Oh, I see. Sarah 28:30 Uh Kelly and Sterat Dave 28:31 Oh. Tara 28:31 That's n oh, I did it like the Avengers. Dave 28:33 I thought you knew Marvell stuff better than this. Tara 28:35 Marvell I've I Sarah 28:38 Yes, clearly I know Marvell Dave 28:40 No, so it's like five of them together fighting one foe. Tara 28:43 Plus, well, or the faux becomes part of the team like Loki. Dave 28:44 That's the Avengers part of it. Oh yeah, sure, sure. Tara 28:47 I assume that's what they were getting at. Dave 28:49 Yeah, but it's it's not a a bunch of two-man team ups, it's just like a group of Sarah 28:53 Oh, I thought it was like uh Challenger's hero or not challengers. Uh the challenge Um Nemesis season. Tara 28:59 Oh. No, but you can do whatever you want, who cares? Dave 29:02 Look, you're the new Marvell studio chief. You just do what you want. Sarah 29:07 Fine. This actually would be amusing as conceived by me, because I really did think it was like that challenge season where it's like, you two hate each other. Good luck! Brandon and Professor Randall, Kelly Taylor and Terrace Reachild, Michael Mancini and Dr. Peter Burns, Kimberly and Sidney, obviously, and of course they fall in love. And uh Carrie Bradshaw and Natasha, Mr. Biggs' first wife. Tara 29:32 Now My team is Brenda Walsh and Dylan McKay from 90210. Matt, for obvious reasons, I love them both and I love them together. Matt Fielding from Melrose Place, so he would have something interesting to do for once in his fucking life. Rhonda Blair, because did you even know that's Rhonda's last name? It is, and I had to look it up and I covered every episode she was in. Sarah 29:52 Wow. Tara 29:54 Um she deserved better from Melrose, and she and Matt were buddies, and of course the nemesis is Sarah 29:54 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Tara 29:59 Let's all say it together. Dave 30:00 The chip bag from Melrose Place. Tara 30:03 No, it's Michael Mancini. Dave 30:03 Oh. Aha Sarah 30:05 Uh, sure Tara 30:05 He did not have anything against any of those other characters really, but I can't exactly say he's a hero to anyone but me. Dave 30:12 All right. All right, that is it for us. Jovial Jen will also continue. and give you your ask ass ESG question for this week. Jove Deal Gent wants to know what TV soundtrack would make good restaurant background music. So you're at a restaurant. There's a TV show soundtrack on for some reason. You're like, yeah, yeah, what's that one? Let us know. Go to the Ask Ask EHG channel on Discord or you can use the form. It's right on the episode page on our site. And that's it for Ask EHG, so Clip 30:44 Here's the road meatloaf. Dave 30:50 It is time for the extra hawk rate tiny cannon presenting. This week it's Anne with an E! Clip 30:57 Hi, Extra Hot Great. Today I am pitching a husband-wife familial authenticity tiny canon from The Last of Us season one episode six. kin. This is the cold open of the episode and the purpose of it is really simple and it could be exposition heavy and really obvious. What they're doing here is establishing a time jump, telling us where Joel and Ellie are going next and what dangers are ahead of them. But the way they stage it is really pretty amazing and it's really well acted. We follow Marlon, Graham Green, as he goes into his cabin and sees that his wife Florence, who's played by Elaine Miles, is being held hostage by Joel. And then they shortly reveal that Ellie is there too. I think that in these four short minutes we get a lot of insight about their relationship and them as characters that I don't believe they'll ever recur. And that's okay because I think what we got was pretty perfect and a great example of writing family really well. They demonstrate it in a lot of different ways. One of the big ones is how they share significant looks in just their eyes and in a laugh or in a single word or two. They have a shared sense of humor, even though they're two very different people. And they laugh at all the things that are going on, even though it's an incredibly stressful situation for them. Dave, please roll clip one Why did you shoot him? The gun's all the way over there. He didn't hurt me by the way. Yeah, I got eyes. He made him soup? Yeah, I did. It's cold up. I'm looking for my brother. Well, I ain't seen him. I haven't told you what he looks like. He look anything like you? A bit. Then I ain't seen him. He's got a girl with him. Can I come down? No M. Whoa. What did I just say Joe, come on, there's like a thousand. Who's this little psycho? Never mind her. I need you to tell us where we are. If you got a map, why are you lost? You must have missed all the street signs in the enormous fucking forest. Holy. We're somewhere here exactly where and your answer better be the same as your wife's Do you tell him the truth? Yeah. You telling me the truth? Yeah. This clip really highlights the easy communication and the implicit trust that they have in each other. Again, how they're sort of an odd couple, but they make sense. He is gruff and grumpy. He puts his gun away in the most sarcastic and angry manner that I think I've ever seen. And then she is just rocking and chilling and giggling and making soup for her captors because it's cold outside, and that annoys him. She also annoys Joel by pointing out that Ellie's upstairs, and obviously Ellie was supposed to be hidden for Ellie's safety. But you can't be mad at her. She's great. There's something about the exchange where he's explaining, oh no, we didn't find a hiding spot. We've always lived in the middle of nowhere. And she says, I didn't want to. And he's just like, meh. That again reads like a couple that you would meet and you would observe this interaction. Everything about them feels very real. And yeah, that's about it. This is a really grim show with a lot of dark things going on, and this scene is my favorite scene of the entire show so far. So thanks for your consideration. Tara 34:44 Thank you, Anne, with an E. Sarah, I think you watched less of this than we did, although we did not last much longer than this, as I recall. But anyway, why don't you go first? Sarah 34:55 I got partway into season two and then just fell off of it for reasons that I don't recall, possibly that redacted. Tara 34:57 Oh. Mm-hmm. Dave 35:02 You apologize to Sarah. Tara 35:04 Sorry, Sarah. Dave 35:04 Sarah's watched the most. Tara 35:05 Yep, you've watched the most Dave 35:06 All right. Sarah 35:07 Wow. Alright. Well Fuck you guys. Dave 35:11 All right. Sarah 35:11 Actually, no. Tara 35:11 Yeah. Sarah 35:13 Marvel at how much more I watch than you. Dave 35:14 Mm-hmm. Sarah 35:16 But yeah, I didn't I didn't really remember this scene until I went back to watch it and it's I mean it's so good. Marilyn from Northern Exposure just doing her Marilyn Whirlwind thing in another role, but could absolutely be her. And um in our head tiny canon, I guess it Can be. One of the things that I liked about season one of The Last of Us is that characters that you sort of met going through the interior. that you knew you weren't gonna see again, you could absolutely see there being just a whole side episode about their conversation after the main characters left their presence. This conversation I think would be short and mostly grunts and like jerk-off motions, but that would still be amusing to me. I think that this is a really good pitch for familial authenticity because there's a lot that's not said and that's not necessarily these characters based, it's like the situation that These people have lived together and known each other a long time and there's like no one else around. Like they don't even really need language to communicate and don't use it when it's not necessary. Simultaneously disgusted and oh of course of you made him soup Perfect. Her delivery of I didn't want to. She's like, just for the record, uh I would prefer I would prefer to have lived in Boulder. The delivery of everywhere people used to be you can't go no more was really good. It was a pleasure to come back to this scene and to watch Joel observing the couple's interaction is also really compelling. So yeah, good pitch. I enjoyed this. Dave. Dave 37:01 I loved the scene at the time and I loved revisiting it. There's something about when old people are just super comfortable in their collective skin that is just very endearing, especially when they're like slightly mean spirited about it, but in that sort of winky lovey way, and I think they absolutely nailed that here. And the fact that this could be Marilyn from Northern Exposure, actually the character just happen to ride out the apocalypse in Colorado, wherever they are, is just icing on the cake. And I agree with everything Anne said. I feel like she nailed all the reasons why this works. And I'd love the addition of just having Ellie there swearing up a storm for them to play off. Ooh. Tara 37:42 Mm-hmm. Sarah 37:44 Yeah. Dave 37:44 Such a great little moment. So yeah, thumbs up from me. Tar. Tara 37:47 Yeah, me too. I I enjoy how amused they are by the situation. I mean the the disgusted, like the the over it husband and the big look that he gives Joel when he takes his gun out with two fingers as ordered like ooh but then you can tell how they're going to keep talking about this incident for weeks because they're the first like non-zombie people they've seen, like possibly in years. And this is just an exciting break in their Sarah 38:16 Mm-hmm Tara 38:20 the monotony of their surviving lives that it's just like, Well, this could have been dangerous, but instead it just broke up the day in kind of a fun way. You can just picture them three weeks later being like, Remember that potty mouth on that girl? Good lord, you know. I d I love the two of them. I love the layers that you can feel under their interaction and in their reactions to Joel and Ellie. So great pick. This was uh delightful to watch. Dave 38:46 Alright, let's make this official server D. Bunting. What do you think about this one? Sarah 38:51 I am telling you the truth, it's a yes. Dave 38:53 Tar. Tara 38:54 Yes, for me too. Dave 38:55 I'm gonna go yes as well. So Cabin couple from The Last of Us, you are hereby inducted into the Extra Hot Great tiny familial authenticity cabin. Clip 39:09 Americans love a winner. Yeah. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. Dave 39:15 It is time to discover who are our not quite winners and not quite losers of the week. I will go first. Netflix securing Seinfeld for a few more years, just a reason to play this clip, which I recently came across in our latest rewatch. Clip 39:42 Really? Dave 39:46 Thanks, Kenneth. And not quite loser of the week is the God of War TV adaptation. Again, getting slagged on. You know, first of all, they're just killing actors left and right with whatever they're doing on the set, dropping swords from high places, going through skulls Tara 39:59 Yeah. Sarah 40:01 Jesus. Tara 40:02 Mm-hmm. Dave 40:02 Uh, but this time the voice actor from the video game's all like, well, why do you guys just use the writers and everything from the actual game? Sarah 40:03 Yeah Tara 40:10 Mm-hmm. Dave 40:11 I understand the compunction to say that. Tara 40:13 Sure. Dave 40:13 And sometimes you have writers and video games that are very talented and can slip over to other mediums. Sometimes you don't. And let me tell you this about the God of War franchise. It's not exactly the most subtle thing in the universe. So I think, you know, anybody can do the job they need as far as the action sequences go and things like that. But what you need to figure out is what's the actual show around all that. And I think that's the task that you give to a screenwriter, probably. Tara 40:41 Yeah. Dave 40:41 I have played video games with such good writing that it made me wish there was product around it, like Team Fortress 2 back in the day where it was just like crazy 60s spy weirdness. That turned into just this sprawling weird lore system. So I can see it working, but it's not universal. And I don't think it's the god of war, is the one you want to make your case on. Tara 41:03 Really, probably not. Dave 41:04 Yeah. Sarah? Sarah 41:06 My not quite winner is uh Doctor Who It's getting new Blu-ray box sets. Uh, those are available for pre-order on Amazon. So if you are looking to update or have them on physical media, you can do that. Got some losers near Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Not quite loser A, the manager who fired Jeffrey Dean Morgan as a client due to his age just before Morgan booked Grey's Anatomy and Supernatural. And also the Walking Dead fans who still swear at Morgan in the street for killing Glenn ten years ago. Clip 41:46 People, what a bunch of bastards Dave 41:50 Three of five so far, guys. Sarah 41:52 Oh God. I mean, I can't really top that, nor need I, so I will throw a Tara Tara 41:58 My not quite winner of the week is hacks as Gene Smart and Hannah Einbinder. It's Co-leads sign on to play their characters live on stage in the one night only for your consideration event. Deborah Vance and Friends and Enemies Live, which first of all, great name. And second of all, great idea. Sarah 42:16 Yeah, great. Tara 42:18 I I mean I you know, I know that Gene Smart is not a real stand-up comic. Hannah Einbinder is, in addition to being an actor. But this sounds like a very fun idea and gives them a chance to, you know, test those skills on the uh on the live stage. I wish I were living anywhere near there, because that would be fun to see. Not quite loser of the week is Hacks co-creator Paul W. Downs, apparently determined to keep Kayla Jimmy's spin-off speculation alive, uh in every interview he does, even as he says he wants to leave hacks as it is, meaning, you know, a closed story, which I think is the right instinct, but in which case, like stop being like, yeah, that would be fun. Like just say, no, we're not gonna do it because you're not. I I disagree with everyone who thinks that's a good idea. Sorry. Clip 43:07 Girlfriend, what is up with you? So angry girlfriend! Kari 43:23 Hello friends, Carrie Race here, and it's that time again. Put your helmets and knee pads on and slap your mouth guards in for another edition of the World's Most Dangerous Musical Moments on TV.this month, we're interrogating a whole season of reality TV, The Absolute Bezonkers Insanity that was Superstar USA.back in the summer of 2004, Mike Fleiss, yes, we are talking about the same monster responsible for The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. Created a show that was basically just all the horrible auditions from American Idol. But also, we fool these people into actually believing they have made it onto a competition show. And then we make them perform week after week in front of some total no name, tone loak, and vitamin C. Yes, this actually existed. Yes, I watched every episode Yes, I am going to Hell. See you all there. Let's hear how host Brian McFadden, who had just departed his run as a VJ on MTV, introduced the show. Clip one. Clip 44:34 A hoax so ambitious, you won't believe your eyes or ears. Thousands of singers auditioned, all believing that we were searching for America's best singer. But we're not. We're actually searching for America's worst singer. Kari 44:47 Wow, can you even believe it? In case you really didn't get it, let him dumb it down for you even more. Clip two Clip 44:56 So while other talent shows are looking for this. And it was just my mind playing tricks on me. Yeah We're looking for this. Kari 45:13 Do you get it? Alright, so there are seven episodes of this once they had selected the top twelve finger quotes heavily implied around top. They did makeovers, which were very reminiscent of the psychological warfare. They used to put the models through each cycle of America's top model Here is eventual winner slash loser Jamie who has been given carte blanche with a hairdresser to create a new look and has decided, clip three. Clip 45:47 I'm thinking like Brittany Spears, that kind of look, you know, I want to be sexy and sassy. She got a very trappy hair. Kari 45:55 Bless her heart. Alright, let's get to the singing and let's just skip to the final episode and the final three. Let me get this out of the way right now that yes, the show is punching down. I certainly remembered that, but geez, I had forgotten how truly loathsome it was. Our top three are Rosa. dubbed the Latin diva, who, yes, is a horrible singer and frankly showing clinical signs of delusion, but also just has a really thick accent, and we're supposed to think that is really funny. CLIP four. Clip 46:33 Gotta be the jelly, work your jelly, gotta wait to jelly, work your jelly, gotta wait to jelly, baby, Cause you've been about to baby, gotta work the jelly Kari 46:43 Then we've got Mario, who is not a classically handsome young man and is probably on the spectrum, but he's been transformed into a rock god. Which by 2004 standards means they put him in a leather jacket and spiked his hair. Clip five. Clip 47:02 Don't wanna close my eyes I don't wanna fall asleep because I miss you, baby. And I don't want to miss the thing. Kari 47:13 And finally, Jamie, who we already met. Wikipedia sums it up perfectly by noting that she was constantly mocked by judges with thinly veiled references to the largeness of her breasts. Jesus H. Christ people, why am I subjecting you to this? I'm so sorry. Clip six. Clip 47:33 A we a PDT, you know what I mean to me, ABS BDT, take care of me. Kari 47:45 Okay, I know you have questions about how they accomplished this. Like how did they keep the studio audience from very obviously conveying through facial expressions that these singers were causing them physical pain. Oh, the producers told them that the contestants were make-a-wish participants. How did the contestants not catch on when they heard how badly the other lunatics chosen for this nonsense sung? Oh, they never let any of them hear the others sing. So, Rosa gets eliminated and then they make Jamie and Mario sing together. Brian asks breathlessly, will these two figure it out now when they hear how bad the other is? Clip 7. Clip 48:27 Here we go! And with cash in the prize, there's no way we could disguise its be released. So we take each other's hands, cause we think we want to make- J'ai un petit peu de temps. Kari 48:47 Um, the answer to that is no, absolutely not, because Mario is too busy trying to remember the simple choreography that consists of him stepping back and forth, back and forth. And Jamie is too busy acting like she is performing an encore on the tenth night of a sold-out run at Carnegie Hall. It's a lot. It's a lot, a lot. It's too much. Jamie wins. They run a package of her highlights slash lowlights on the show. Call her sexy about fifty more times. Barf. And then Brian says, clip eight. Clip 49:22 As you can see, we were looking for a person with Such an unconditional belief in their own ability that nothing could stop them. Not even a lousy singing voice Kari 49:34 Dun dun dun. He tells her they were looking for someone who thought they were America's best singer, and they lied to her when they said she was a good singer. Clip 9. Clip 49:45 But we didn't lie to you about how much this audience loves you right now. Kari 49:52 Okay, first of all, Fuck you. Second of all You didn't tell her anything about the audience. She experienced it? Third of all, Fuck you. They offer her the chance to actually work on an album while she stands there looking like she has no earthly idea what is going on. on which fair enough Jamie like they're trying to act like you're a total idiot but this is very confusing And then they show vitamin C and Tone Loke who don't even have the decency to look ashamed. You know who should be embarrassed by all this? Those two. You dumbasses acting like you're better than this. Mister couldn't get her off my jock like she was static cling. Miz, come whatever, we will still be friends forever. Gross Alright, what's the lesson here kids? First of all, Fuck everyone involved in the show on the production side. Second of all, we were not ready for Rosa's Jelly. Third of all, let your freak flag fly because honestly, who can judge you? Tone loke? Vitamin C? I don't think so. Until we meet again, be listening for the dangerous musical moments around every corner. Sarah 51:20 Hello, Grand Pie. Welcome back. You missed a marvellous and heavy-handed discussion of Reacher Season 4. We talked about unused Dave soundboard cues. We bickered gently about a tiny canon entry from one of your fellow listeners. You missed a lot, but you don't have to. You can kick up that pledge, get an entire full new episode every week. No need to ask yourself if it's worth it, but you might ask yourself if you know what timey whimey it is. Tara 51:52 Oh no, is it the Doctor Who Gained Time? Dave 51:52 Don't know. Is it Sarah 51:56 It is Dave 51:57 Um boy. Tara 51:57 Ah Clip 52:00 This will be the first time we're back. Dave 52:09 I want to say for the benefit of our grandpa's here that I have managed to work in four of the five sound clips I wish got more play on the podcast. Tara 52:19 Mm-hmm. Dave 52:19 And the last one's gonna be really hard to figure out. So I just want to let the grandpas know if there's some weird clip that plays and makes no sense to them. It makes no sense to anybody. Sarah 52:28 So yes, it is non-regulation game time. I was thinking sort of idly the other day that it might be interesting to Power rank all the doctors who in history, I, as is well documented, do not really care about the show. Sorry, friends. But I do care about a lot of the actors who have played various doctors, and I thought it might make for a good discussion. Three minutes of research told me that it would make for a long discussion and a lot of math, so I thought let's turn it into a game instead and then only I have to do math. Doctor Who adjacent content for you, no real prep work for my co-hosts, and the winner will receive as their prize something extremely British that is also an acquired taste. Dave 53:14 Nice Sarah 53:16 Here's here's how it works that that gentle rushing sound you hear is listeners fleeing. Here's how it works. Going in chronological order, I will give Tara and Dave the name of an actor who played the Doctor. They'll each guess the number of episodes that that actor served as Doctor Who. Dave 53:31 Yeah. Sarah 53:33 Closest to the Pin gets a point, Bullseye gets two points, and Closest to the Pin also gets the opportunity to guess the actor's total number of IMDB entries. Tara 53:45 Mm Sarah 53:45 come within ten, you get another point, and a bullseye here is three points. If you are equidistant from the pin, you will each get the initial point, and you'll both get to play for the extra points. If that comes up we will get to it. Tara 54:00 Okay. Sarah 54:00 We are not trying to Fuck with fugitive doctors or war doctors or regenerated tenants or any of that shit. We're going headline doctors here. If you're Paul McGann's lawyer, you could see me at the class. 12 questions, no equalizing. Is everybody ready to cram into a magical phone booth for Dr. How Many? Tara 54:18 Sure Sarah 54:20 PICCI, can you please tell us who will be going first? Dave 54:22 Doctor Hamini Clip 54:25 We will start with David. Sarah 54:27 Oh, excellent, David. Alright, we'll begin with William Hartnell. Or Hartnell. Hartnell, who knows? Dave 54:35 Billy H. Sarah 54:37 Everyone can uh pronounce anything any way they want. Dave, how many episodes did William Hartnell serve as Doctor Who? Begin the bidding, please. Dave 54:45 Hmm, can I get the language of origin? No idea even what doctor that is, so I'm gonna assume he's one of the black and white doctors. Tara 54:52 I assume Sarah's going in alpha in chronological order. Dave 54:54 Oh oh you're that's right. You said you're going chronologically. My apologies. So he's the first one so he's the first one back when that was I think on his episodes just died somewhere. They copied over. I'm I'm stalling. I probably in a few episod few seasons, I'm gonna guess, and they were making approximately seventy two thousand episodes per season back then. Sarah 55:08 Mm-hmm Dave 55:16 So I'm gonna put him at 321. Sarah 55:19 Wow Tara 55:19 Jesus Christ Dave 55:20 I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know, Doctor. Was it a soap opera to start off with or something? Tara 55:24 I don't know. Uh my my thought as soon as his name came up was 60, so I'm gonna say 60, and it's somewhere, I assume, around them, between them maybe, who knows? Dave 55:32 Yeah, I kind of overbid it. Yeah, I don't there might have not even been 300 Doctor Who episodes total so far. Sarah 55:35 Okay Tara 55:38 I don't know. Dave 55:39 I don't know. Okay, let's go. Tara 55:40 Yeah. Sarah 55:40 There were, and I watched them all to confirm. Dave 55:42 Okay. Tara 55:43 Oh. Sarah 55:43 Just kidding. I didn't. Uh the actual answer is 144, and that puts Tara closest to the pin. Dave 55:46 All right. Tara 55:46 Oh. Okay, great. Dave 55:49 Great. Sarah 55:49 So it's A point. Tara had now you and you alone. Dave 55:53 Let me ask you this before you proceed, Sarah. Do you want the Doctor Whom theme the Doctor Who theme to be the score tension music throughout this whole thing? Sarah 56:01 No, thank you. Thank you for asking, though. Tara 56:05 Okay. Dave 56:05 What if was it the orbital version of it? Sarah 56:08 Still no thank you. Dave 56:09 Yeah, okay. Sarah 56:09 Tara, how many total IMDB credits did Big Billy Hartnell have? Tara 56:15 Eighty six. Sarah 56:16 Ooh, very close. 90, but you do get an extra point for that. Tara 56:20 Whoa. Okay Sarah 56:22 Because you're within ten. Next round, Tara will start us off. I don't actually know how you pronounce this, Patrick Trufton. Tara 56:29 Okay, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Dave 56:30 Sounds right. Sarah 56:30 Trotten? Dave 56:31 Yeah. Sarah 56:32 Marvel? Alright, Tara, how many episodes did Trufton serve as Doctor Who? Tara 56:38 Uh ninety four Sarah 56:41 Okay, Dave Dave 56:43 Alright, second Doctor Who. Everybody loves the first Doctor Who. They're really sad that There's the second Doctor Who now, and they've come up with this regeneration bullshit to explain the new actor. Everybody hates him so much that somebody murders him at Hammersmith. He is dead. He only gets to do twenty-two episodes before he's sh killed, stabbed in the head with a blunderbuss's bayonet. Tara 57:01 Okay Sarah 57:04 Um Wow, blunderbuses have bayonets. The the things that you're learning about uh Doctor Hoostery Dave 57:16 Uh, I just want to remind you, I am British. Tara 57:19 Yeah. Dave 57:19 I know things. Tara 57:21 Oh, we'll see Sarah 57:21 Not this thing. He was in one hundred and twenty-eight episodes of Doctor Who. Dave 57:28 The Fuck. Sarah 57:28 That means Tara gets the point there. Dave 57:31 I'm doing great Sarah 57:32 Yeah, you're doing you're doing really great. Tara, once again, on your own to guess how many total IMDB credits are listed for Mr. Patrick Trufton. Tara 57:43 Sixty five Sarah 57:44 No. Not close enough for a point. 234. Dave 57:50 Wow. Tara 57:50 Okay. Sarah 57:51 Yeah. All right, Dave, you're back up. Trying to get on the board here with John Purtui. Pr per twe? Clip 57:58 The low point I want to go and go back. Dave 57:58 Virtually. Sarah 57:59 Pertwee Twee. Dave 58:00 Yeah. Tara 58:00 Petrie Sarah 58:01 How how many Doctor Who episodes was uh the Pertster in? Clip 58:02 I want to come back. Dave 58:05 Still don't know any of these names yet. Clip 58:05 The low critical Dave 58:07 The only one I know, sorry, I think the first doctor's name that I know is Tom Baker. Tara 58:11 Mm-hmm. Dave 58:11 And I think he's the scarf guy. And he was for me Doctor Who. Tara 58:14 Right Dave 58:15 Because that was the one that I saw when I was flipping through channels and Doctor Who comes on like AHHHH Fuck Tara 58:18 Not stopping. Sarah 58:21 Not stopping Tara 58:22 Kicking your TV in when you saw his image. Yes Dave 58:27 I'm gonna guess seventy-one Sarah 58:30 Okay, Tara? Tara 58:32 He's the not Tom Baker one? I'm gonna say fifty. Sarah 58:38 Well, David T. Cole, you are on the board. Dave 58:40 Yeah Sarah 58:41 He actually was a hundred and thirty-two episode veteran of Doctor Who. And how many total IMDb credits, Dave? This is just you playing and you're trying to get within 10. How many total IMDb credits for per tweed? Dave 58:56 Per twee. How many movies per per twe? Um I'm gonna say uh fifty-one. Sarah 59:01 Kur twirect, no. I'm sorry, it was seventy-nine Dave 59:08 Fuck! I was gonna guess the same number I guess for the Doctor Who thing, and they fucking blew it. I would have been within ten. God damn it. Sarah 59:14 Yeah, you would have been. But alas, you failed. Uh that does bring us, however, to Tom Baker. Tar will begin the bidding. Tara 59:22 Yeah Sarah 59:22 With uh how many stripy scarves, well, not total scarves, but how many episodes in which he wore a scarf was Tom Baker in of Doctor Who? Tara 59:26 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, based on how many dozens of episodes the ones we don't remember did, I'm gonna guess this is like Two sixty. Dave 59:40 Wow. Yeah, I think it's big as well. Sarah 59:41 Well Dave 59:43 But I think maybe they started making less episodes by that time. Tara 59:46 This is the question Dave 59:47 259 please. Tara 59:49 Oh I did God, please say two sixty-one. Sarah 59:50 Wow It was a dick move, but it worked. 178. Tara 01:00:00 Good job, Dave. Dave 01:00:01 Thank you. Sarah 01:00:01 Dave is closer to the pin with Tom Baker. How many Other things did Tom Baker do? How many total IMDB entries for the bake Dave 01:00:10 I think Tom Baker might be out or s outside of our house right now, collecting the garbage very noisily. Let's just give it a moment. Tara 01:00:18 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:00:18 Let the j You know if Doctor Who had a garbage disposal system it would work really well because you can just roll up with this TARDIS and throw everything in there and it's like bigger on the inside, right? Tara 01:00:18 Or he's dead, who knows? Mm-hmm, yeah Dave 01:00:28 So you can just he's got some sort of system. Sarah 01:00:29 Uh-huh. Dave 01:00:30 Waste management Doctor Who look into it. I know the reboot in the series or something. Tara 01:00:34 Anyway Dave 01:00:34 Think think about it. What was the question? How many do okay, here's the thing with Tom Baker. I think he is like the first iconic Doctor Who, like he's got his own blah blah. Tara 01:00:44 Yeah. Dave 01:00:44 look and feel and tone. I'm talking about my ass, but I get the feeling he's like the first modern Doctor Who kind of guy. Tara 01:00:52 Yeah Dave 01:00:52 So I think he probably had lots and lots of like tiny little bit rolls from people that want them in their shitty sci-fi project ten years later and stuff. Tara 01:01:00 Right. Dave 01:01:02 So I'm gonna put it at an even 100. Sarah 01:01:05 That's uh pretty smart thinking, but it was actually even more shit than you thought. 125 Dave 01:01:10 Yeah Tara 01:01:11 Wow. Sarah 01:01:11 125 IMDB entries. I am sorry. That is not within 10. Now we're back in, I suspect, who? Territory with Peter Davison. Peter Davison. Dave 01:01:24 Host of Hollywood Squares, UK edition Tara 01:01:27 Star of the girl with something extra with an a you in extra somewhere Sarah 01:01:34 He wishes Peter Davison, David T. Cole. Dave 01:01:38 Is he the one that wears like the weird hat? Tara 01:01:40 You're asking the wrong two people. Sarah 01:01:41 You're asking me? Dave 01:01:42 Isn't it one of them that has like a pork pie hat or something? Tara 01:01:45 Uh I doesn't Tom Bak Tom Baker has a hat too. Dave 01:01:45 Doctor Who people are so mad right now Sarah 01:01:46 I'm sure there is. Tara 01:01:49 Anyway Sarah 01:01:49 I cannot confirm and will not Dave 01:01:51 All right, post Baker Baker was 120 something, right? Tara 01:01:55 No, it was like a hundred and seventy something. Dave 01:01:55 Or what oh 170, yeah. Clip 01:01:56 Kate on both ring on the cut because I want to go both quick Sarah 01:01:57 Hundred and seventy eight Tara. Dave 01:01:58 I'm gonna say 152. Tara 01:02:01 A hundred and fifty one Woo. Sarah 01:02:03 Oh well look these dick moves work 70 so Tara's closest to the pin, picks up a point. Dave 01:02:04 You turn out Tara 01:02:10 Mhm. Sarah 01:02:11 Given that we, uh, you know, are making jokes about him because we don't remember who he is, this guess might be tough, but Tara, you can pick up another point or three by guessing how many IMDB entries Peter Davison has. Tara 01:02:16 Yeah, mm-hmm One oh one. Sarah 01:02:27 Oh, so close. Tara 01:02:29 Oh no, damn Sarah 01:02:29 One twenty-three, one twenty-three. No extra points there And now it's another Baker, Colin Baker, possibly second Britishest name in the world. Dave 01:02:38 Okay. Tara 01:02:41 Mm-hmm. Sarah 01:02:42 His middle name is Nigel. Tara, you're starting us off. How many who hoopisodes, sorry, I won't do that again, was Colin Baker in? Hmm. Dave 01:02:55 Do you want to have a mutual pack that we won't uh do the one dollar over under thing? Sarah 01:02:55 David? Tara 01:02:58 Sure. Yes. Dave 01:02:59 Okay. 79. No, just kidding. Tara 01:03:02 Days like m seventy eight T Dave 01:03:03 I think it's lower, but then again, what the Fuck do I know? What was the last one? How many episodes did the last guy have? Sarah 01:03:10 Peter Davison had seventy. Dave 01:03:10 Eighty something? Seventy. Sixty-five. Sarah 01:03:14 Good call. That's one point for you. He was only in thirty-five episodes as Doctor Who. Dave 01:03:18 Oh. What happened? Clip 01:03:22 Well, Dave 01:03:22 What happened, Mr. Davison Sarah 01:03:24 I don't know. Maybe he was busy with other stuff, but the question, Dave, is how busy was he? Dave 01:03:28 Yeah. Oh, Sarah 01:03:30 How many total IMDB entries for Colin Baker? Dave 01:03:35 Was Sarah trying to throw me off the scent right there with her little little suggestion about how much work he might have outside if he only had that many episodes of Doctor Who. Sarah 01:03:44 No, I'm just rambling on to fill to fill time. Dave 01:03:47 Eatin' clock. Sarah 01:03:48 As usual hundred and forty-one Dave 01:03:52 Seventy. You didn't let me finish. Times two. Hey, speaking about number two. Clip 01:04:04 Stanley Steam, you certified cleaner. Sarah 01:04:10 That was a gorgeous, gorgeous segue. And I appreciate you. Sylvester McCoy Yes, this is I know ex Dave 01:04:18 Wow, not a real name Tara 01:04:21 I I if you had asked me if this if a question in this game was how many doctors who were there before Christopher Eccleston, I would have said like three. Like these are guys I've never heard of. Dave 01:04:31 Oh, they're up to like fourteen or something now, I think. Tara 01:04:34 I had no idea. Sarah 01:04:35 Yeah Dave 01:04:35 I only know I I know this piece of Doctor Who trivia. Tara 01:04:38 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:04:39 At some point, some idiot in the writing room decided to put a hard number in the number of times Doctor Who can regenerate way back in the day where it seemed like an infathomable future problem. Clip 01:04:40 Oh, yeah. Tara 01:04:45 Right. Mm-hmm. Dave 01:04:49 And they already surpassed that. I think there's only supposed to be like ten doctors and now they're on like the fifteenth or fourteenth or something like that. And they're I don't know how they explained it doctorally, I suppose. Tara 01:04:55 Yeah, uh huh, uh huh. Dave 01:04:59 But that's not the kind that's not the kind of favor you want to pass forward. Sarah 01:05:00 I mean I think the fact that Tennant regenerated himself with some kind of loophole on this and counting fugitive war and Tara 01:05:02 Okay. Sarah 01:05:11 some backdoor US reboot situation that flopped. Tara 01:05:14 Right. Sarah 01:05:15 I think it's 18, but again, not going back to check. Tara 01:05:16 Oh my god. Dave 01:05:16 Wow Tara 01:05:17 Okay. Sylvester McCoy, is that what you said? Sarah 01:05:20 Yes, yes, that's what I said. How many Doctor Who episodes for that bro? Tara 01:05:25 Forty Clip 01:05:26 Oh, Dave 01:05:26 Yeah, I've never heard of this guy. Doesn't mean anything for the numbers. The last one was 35-ish. I'm gonna go 62. Sarah 01:05:35 Interesting. It was actually forty-two, so that's a point for Tara. Very close. Very close. Tara 01:05:43 Mm-hmm. Sarah 01:05:43 Uh how many other things did McCoy do? Not not the good McCoy, like you like. Tara 01:05:50 One twenty three Holy Shit Sarah 01:05:51 Oh my god, 122. You're so close. So that is one more point before Tara Tara 01:06:00 Yay. Sarah 01:06:00 Let's do one more round. We're into the ones you've heard of. Dave 01:06:04 Okay. Tara 01:06:04 Great. Sarah 01:06:04 One more round and then we'll do a score break. Tara 01:06:06 Okay Dave 01:06:06 Okay. Sarah 01:06:07 It's Eccleston, baby. Dave 01:06:09 Okay. Sarah 01:06:10 How many episodes as Doctor Who? Dave 01:06:14 Who's who's who's guessing? Tara 01:06:15 Yeah. Dave 01:06:19 Excuse me. Sarah 01:06:20 Dave start us off Dave 01:06:21 All this talk of Doctor Who is made my stomach act up. So this is the reboot era with the terrible logo And I think he left pretty quickly, as I recall. He's like, am I starring in a show where garbage bins are eating people? Maybe I should leave. Go do that really good episode of the leftovers. I think maybe it's just one or two seasons and they're obviously doing less episodes here, so I'm gonna put him at twenty-seven. Sarah 01:06:42 Yeah All right, Tara. Tara 01:06:52 Thirty three Sarah 01:06:54 Well, you had the right instinct, Dave, but it was actually thirteen episodes. Dave 01:06:58 Oh, just one season. Tara 01:06:59 Whoa. Sarah 01:06:59 Thirteen. Dave 01:07:00 Okay. Sarah 01:07:00 So that is a point for Dave. Tara 01:07:00 Well, good job. Dave 01:07:02 All right. Sarah 01:07:02 And Dave can now guess for a person that he's actually heard of how many total IMDB entries for Eccleston. Tara 01:07:04 Oof And remember that includes the movie that Sassy reviewed in the November nineteen ninety-one issue that we just talked about. Sarah 01:07:15 Uh-huh. Dave 01:07:16 What was that? Tara 01:07:17 Don't remember what it's called. Dave 01:07:17 Yeah, okay. Yeah, guy has been in some stuff, and I've heard of him. Tara 01:07:23 Let him have it, that's what it was called. Dave 01:07:24 182 Clip 01:07:25 Or a cut ring bowl. Sarah 01:07:25 Yes. Tara 01:07:26 Hmm, good guess. Clip 01:07:26 I want to go on the colour. Sarah 01:07:28 Ninety eight. Dave 01:07:29 What? Tara 01:07:29 Really? Dave 01:07:30 You didn't let me finish. Sarah 01:07:30 Yeah Tara 01:07:32 Times two Sarah 01:07:33 Divided by two. Dave 01:07:33 Divided by two Sarah 01:07:38 Yeah, we're we're not doing that long division shit in here. Tara 01:07:40 Hmm. Sarah 01:07:41 Can we have a score break, please? Tara 01:07:43 It's pretty close according to my tabulations. Four points for Dave, six points for me is what I have. Dave 01:07:51 Doctor scores! Tara 01:07:52 Dave, do you concur? Dave 01:07:54 What was it? Tara 01:07:54 Four for you, six for me. Dave 01:07:56 That's what I have, I concur. Clip 01:07:56 I am bombarding a gold dog. Tara 01:07:57 Hooray. Sarah 01:07:57 That's also what I have. Tara 01:07:59 Yay. Dave 01:08:00 Hey! Tara 01:08:01 Everyone concurs Sarah 01:08:02 All right, but But we are, again, in the whose you've heard of, like not who with a question Mark weekly. Tara 01:08:09 Yes. Sarah 01:08:09 So uh let's uh continue on to David Tennant, tenant of Who's Phil. Tara 01:08:10 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yep. Right Dave 01:08:14 Oh Tara 01:08:16 Mm-hmm. Tendant two. Ha ha, just kidding. Um, my answer is fifty three. Dave 01:08:24 Oh my god, okay, I just want to show you. I wrote down my guess already. Tara 01:08:28 Fuck Yeah, you can. Dave 01:08:28 So I'm gonna use it because it was done honestly. But what I was thinking was I think he was probably in three or four seasons. Tara 01:08:31 Absolutely Clip 01:08:34 What do we do? Dave 01:08:35 Let's go with four. Let's multiply Eccleston's. So I I came about 52. Tara 01:08:39 Yeah, okay. Dave 01:08:40 So not a dick move, honest. Tara 01:08:41 No, I believe you Dave 01:08:42 Okay. Sarah 01:08:43 Alas, Tara is closer to the pin. Dave 01:08:44 Fuck. Sarah 01:08:47 Fifty-nine episodes. Dave 01:08:51 A damn simple multiplication. Sarah 01:08:53 I know. Good instincts, everyone. Tara 01:08:55 Oh boy, this fucker works. Sarah 01:08:56 Tara, how many how many IMDB entries for David Tennant Dave 01:09:01 Does that include voice acting? It does, right? Tara 01:09:03 It's everything. Dave 01:09:04 Mm-hmm. Tara 01:09:05 One five one Sarah 01:09:08 One nine five. Dave 01:09:10 Yeah. Sarah 01:09:11 One nine five Tara 01:09:12 I said this fucker works and he does. Dave 01:09:14 Yeah Sarah 01:09:14 Yeah, yeah, he does. All right, moving on, as we must, although not all fans felt the same, to Matt Smith. Matt Smith, David T. Cole, how many Doctor Who episodes? Dave 01:09:27 I think he was there for a little bit. But I don't think he I'm gonna say 42, the meaning of life. Tara 01:09:36 Fifty five Sarah 01:09:37 The correct answer was 50, that once again puts Tara closest to the pin Yeah, well, I don't think she's happy about winning this either, but anyhow. Tara, how many total IMDB entries would you say Matt Smith has? Trying to get within ten. Tara 01:10:01 One forty Sarah 01:10:03 Sixty-five. Tara 01:10:04 Really? I feel like I see him all the time. Sarah 01:10:05 Yeah, right Yeah. Tara 01:10:08 All right. Sarah 01:10:08 I I feel like that too, but I guess it was uh guess it was a little more recent than we thought. So no extra points there. All right Last two questions. Peter Capaldi. Tara Ariano. How many Doctor Who episodes for that guy? Tara 01:10:23 I feel like he wasn't there for very long, so I'm gonna say twenty-five. Sarah 01:10:28 Dave. Dave 01:10:29 Yeah. Um, let's see if we're d I'm gonna say thirty one. Sarah 01:10:33 Point for David T. Cole. It was forty-four episodes for Capaldi. Tara 01:10:35 Who Sarah 01:10:38 Forty-four episodes. Capaldi has a bunch of IMDB entries. How big is a bunch? That's on David T. Cole to guess. Dave 01:10:45 Mm-hmm. Dude's working. He's old. Oh boy. But we've had a a slew of British. Sarah 01:10:51 He's British. They're in everything. Tara 01:10:55 He's Scottish actually, if you want to be precise. Dave 01:10:57 Hey, there we could be two things. Tara 01:11:01 Naked. Dave 01:11:03 But we've had a slew of ones that are like, but that's low. So now I'm second. Tara 01:11:07 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:11:08 I'm gonna go in the middle of those two extremes and say an even 100. Sarah 01:11:13 137. Dave 01:11:14 God damn it Sarah 01:11:14 137 for Peter Capaldi. No points awarded, I'm afraid. Alright. Last one. Tara 01:11:22 What about Shudigawa? You skipped him? Sarah 01:11:26 He was saved for the tiebreaker. Tara 01:11:27 Oh, got it. Sarah 01:11:28 Should we need it? Dave 01:11:29 Yeah, we'll definitely need to go to the tiebreaker. Tara 01:11:33 Yeah, the lady one Sarah 01:11:35 Last one, lady one, Jody Whitaker. Dave, how many episodes for Jody Whitaker? Lady Whitaker Dave 01:11:43 Yeah, Lady Whittaker. Twenty-five Sarah 01:11:47 Tara. Tara 01:11:47 Thirty five Sarah 01:11:49 Tara, it's a little a little upsetting how good you are at this game 32 was the answer, so that point is for Tara. Tara 01:11:54 Damn. Sarah 01:11:57 And would you like now to try to rack up even more points? And guess how many IMDB entries for Jody Whitaker total? Tara 01:12:02 Sure Seventy Five Woo Sarah 01:12:07 72. Well done. Dave 01:12:08 Jesus. Sarah 01:12:09 One last point for the road. Dave 01:12:11 Wow Sarah 01:12:13 I can hear the scores, please, and then declare a victor. Tara 01:12:16 Okay. Dave had five points and then we multiplied that by two. He hee and I have ten. Sarah 01:12:26 Yeah, number two, that is. Well, thank you for tolerating this game. I do have a tiebreaker. We can play it for a seal meal if you like. Dave 01:12:33 Yep. Let's do it. Tara 01:12:34 Sure. Sarah 01:12:35 All right. Most recent whoti gatwa. Dave, would you like to go first? Dave 01:12:41 Fifteen I think he just lasted one season, but I'm not sure. Sarah 01:12:41 How many total Fifteen, okay, Tara, it's nineteen, so Dave 01:12:46 And I think he did a movie or something after that. Tara 01:12:48 Nineteen. No, no, no, no, nineteen. On the dot! That's the one I get exactly right. Sarah 01:12:55 Yeah, on the dot. Tara 01:12:57 Fuuuuck. Sarah 01:12:58 Yep Tara 01:12:59 Woo Clip 01:13:07 Tara. Tara 01:13:07 Me. Dave 01:13:08 Ah, Tara, you love Doctor Who Sarah 01:13:11 Case of Marmite coming your way. Tara 01:13:13 Oh, no Sarah 01:13:14 Just kidding. Dave 01:13:16 Alright guys, that is it for another episode of Extra Extra Hot Great. Sarah 01:13:16 Just kidding. Or am I Dave 01:13:21 We checked in with Reacher the No Tara 01:13:24 One man who Sarah 01:13:27 Who? Dave 01:13:27 No, get the Saraster. Sarah 01:13:30 Who Dave 01:13:30 Reaches Good job. Get ready for that next season of Reacher. Before answering your burning, Ask EHG questions like, what are you going to be careful that you wish for? Tara 01:13:35 Nice. Dave 01:13:40 And what good advice are you going to yell at possibly homicidal strangers on the street? And with a yeah, got the cabin couple into the tiny cannon. We celebrated those who weren't quite the best and worst of the week, and we wrapped it all up with Sarah's Doctor How many game time. Next up, it's lanterns. More shows about fantastical people that sometimes travel into space on EHG Prime. Remember. Clip 01:14:10 We're listening. Dave 01:14:13 Also, a hero that is played by too many people. Greed lantern. Tara 01:14:18 Yeah. Dave 01:14:19 I am David T. Cole on behalf of Tara Ariano. Tara 01:14:21 Do you really think you can make me do anything? Dave 01:14:23 And Sarah D for Dr. Bunting. Sarah 01:14:27 You made a soup Dave 01:14:29 Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time right here on Extra Extra Hot Great. Clip 01:14:40 That's a side he's gone to shit. Dave 01:14:47 Oh, we can't hear you, Sarah. Tara 01:14:48 Can't hear you Dave 01:14:50 Mm-mm. Should we make this exciting after show content Tara 01:14:59 Yeah, is everything that you want for the grocery store on the list? Dave 01:15:02 People are gonna love this. Tara 01:15:02 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:15:03 Or read the grocery list and I'll put it at the end of the show. What do we got? What do we got on tap? Bread? Tara 01:15:09 Uh-huh. Dave 01:15:10 Fridge water filters. Tara 01:15:11 Yeah, I didn't know where to put that so that you would order them. Dave 01:15:14 Sure. Tara 01:15:14 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:15:15 Pepsi Zero. Doctor Pepper Cherry Zero. Tara 01:15:17 Sugar. Oh, mm-hmm. Dave 01:15:19 Dill Pickle Sprinkles. Humus Hummus. Tara 01:15:22 Uh-huh. Yeah. Dave 01:15:24 Milk Brackets Carton. Tara 01:15:26 Do you want grandma's hummus? That kind? Dave 01:15:28 Yep. Tara 01:15:29 Okay. Yep. Dave 01:15:30 Not a euphemism. Tara 01:15:31 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:15:31 In case anybody's listening. Tara 01:15:32 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:15:33 Eggs, 30 count. Tara 01:15:35 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:15:35 For the egg fiend. Tara 01:15:36 Yeah. Reacher is coming to visit us. Dave 01:15:39 White rice, garbage bags, kibble. Tara 01:15:41 Mm-hmm. Yep. Right. For dogs, not human kibble. Dave 01:15:46 Oh Yeah. Salsa, two red bell peppers, jalapeno pepper, bananas Tara 01:15:52 Uh-huh. Yep. Dave 01:15:57 Canned pumpkin for the dogs, poopers, and Tara RX Tara 01:15:59 Right. Yep. I have heard regarding salsa Anecdotally from the hooligans that it's been out of stock at HEB because it might have been part of the Taylor Farms recall. Dave 01:16:09 Yeah. Okay, well Tara 01:16:15 So be prepared. They might not have it. Dave 01:16:17 All right. Well then. Tara 01:16:19 After show contest Do you want me to go? Dave 01:16:23 Wait, there's another let's see, what's on the Costco list, everybody? I'm just reading it. We're waiting for Sarah to come back. We're providing valuable content to our listeners. Tara 01:16:32 I understand, but I'm Yes, but I also want to know if you want me to go. Dave 01:16:32 Don't you want them to know what we're shopping for, Tara? Silence! Silence! Silence! Tara 01:16:38 Yes. Dave 01:16:39 We have Gabapenton for Nolton that waiting there. Anyways, it's not super urgent. Tara 01:16:42 Oh, okay. Okay. Dave 01:16:45 Cauliflower Tater tots Tasty bite lentils. Tara 01:16:50 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:16:51 Forever stamps. Forever, forever, forever. Tara 01:16:54 Yeah. Dave 01:16:55 I'd like to also add gummy bears, and that completes the list. Gummy bears at Costco, so you know there's gonna be a lot. Tara 01:17:01 Yep. Dave 01:17:02 Gonna make gummy bear soup. Are we going to stop drafts under doors with a series of gummy bears underneath? Tara 01:17:10 Gonna make Gummy Bear doll. Dave 01:17:12 Yep. Oh, I gotta invite Sarah back. Tara 01:17:13 Then we won't have to get the Dave 01:17:14 That's why she's not coming back. She was in there. What the Fuck? Oh, she's gonna be mad when she comes back. Tara 01:17:21 She won't be mad. Dove Dave 01:17:30 Let's just see what happens. You're gonna be so mad. Tara 01:17:35 Hey, hello. Dave 01:17:38 Oh. Tara 01:17:39 Oh no Dave 01:17:40 Oh no. Nope. Not happening. Well that's good. Because now she can't uh voice her annoyance at how long she had to wait for me to call her back. All right. Uh just uh text me when you're ready to come back in, please. Okay. Clip 01:18:01 This is Extra Hot Great Minis. Today's topic, Doctor Who Reintroduction. So a little while ago, um, we were talking about Peter Capaldi being the new, I don't know, what is it, 12th, 13th Doctor, something like that on Doctor Who. And I put it to our readers on Previously. tv as somebody who is you know, a little bit familiar with the Doctor Who universe, but has sort of not really been engaged with the modern Doctor Who. What are the episodes I should watch to sort of get a flavor? of modern Doctor Who um because I'm sort of like in the bag to watch Peter Capaldi and what he's gonna do with it. At least give him a chance. So I had two episodes that were kind of came up again and again from suggestions. One was from the first season with uh Christopher Eccleson called uh Down. Which are the exterminate robot guys from Doctor Who, and the other one was a later episode called Blink. So I watched them both and I just wanted to give a really quick you know, state of the Dave Cole, Doctor Who, potential marriage like ability, maybe not union. So Dalek was a giant it was like ten pounds of stupid in like a two-pound bag. I hated this episode. And here's a clip uh with a robot, an emotional robot dying. What? Okay, just listen to it. No. I am dying. Oh god. I welcome to death. I am glad that before I die, I have met a human who was not afraid. Isn't there anything I can do? My race is dead. I shall die. Uh low. Low Winter sun. Um you have hibernation sickness, your eyesight will return in time. I was just learning how to love. What is this emotion you humans call up love? Um I kind of understand where they're going with this mix of goofy and and serious stuff, and it does kind of throw back to the mix of earlier ones, but this episode was just too goofy for me. I could not handle it. And I almost gave up on Doctor Who right there and then. I'm like, oh yeah, this is the Doctor Who that I gave up on before when I watched the first episode of that season and there were like garbage bins turning into like eating people and turning them into rubber or something like that. somehow strange enough at the same time, you know, like I can handle axe cop goofiness, but I can't handle mixing goofy with like trying to be serious at the same time. It just put me off. So I almost gave up, but then I watched Blink and Blink like totally turned me around on Doctor Who. It's really, really good. I think a lot of people s say it's probably the best episode of Doctor Who. It's written by Stephen Moffat who did Sherlock, which we mean Tara really like. Really good show. If you haven't seen it, definitely check it out. Um it centers around a non uh series regulator played by uh Carrie Mulligan from uh Education, right? And um and she kind of stumbles into this story that's sort of like half Monster of the Week, but half sort of like looper time travel stuff and I don't want to ruin the plot because I think it's actually pretty good and you do want to go into it with um fresh eyes. But it's like this is the episode for a non Doctor Who fan to get introduced into the show because it's actually pretty light on Doctor Who And Mulligan plays this really relatable character and they introduce time travel in a really digestible and kind of clever manner And David Tennett, who plays the Doctor by this point, is so much better than Christopher Eccleson was. He brings this sort of like manic, whatever the male version of a pixie is. charm to the role and he doesn't actually appear in the episode in the world until right at the end of the episode. And when he does, it's like If you don't have a shit eating grin on your face when he's on the screen, you're dead, because it's a really good, you know, little button on the episode. So if you like Sherlock or X-Files and you've been scared by Doctor Who. and you're thinking about maybe watching it when maybe Peter Capaldi's in and maybe the tone will change and that seems like a good place to come into it, watch Blink. That is my recommendation. I think it's really good I think even Tari you would like it. I will commit to being present while you watch it. Okay. That's that's as far as I know. Yeah, bl that sort of gets that episode consistently makes like top ten scariest TV episodes ever lists and people talk about it with like genuine sense memory I'm gonna add red I'm gonna add another show If you like Buffy, Blink is a good episode too. It has a Buffy Monster kind of feel to it too. So uh Doctor Who, I'm in for Capaldi and I really highly recommend Blink and I want to thank all the users on the site who contributed to that uh that recommendation list. It was really great. Thank you all. Uh Dave Out.