Having Fun Out Of The Sun For The Summer TV Preview

Clip 00:05 Hello, hello, hello. Summertime, I mean what that means gonna help me. So it 's game it's summertime Dude, calm down. It's not a ghost, it's just music. You can't touch music, but music can touch you. Oh barf. Not hell now. Not L now. Dave 00:37 This is the Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 615 for the week of May 18th, 2026. I am Sand in your crotch, David T. Cole, and I'm here with Redemptive Spinoff Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 00:54 Cosmos Dave 00:56 Special that's actually just a failed pilot, Tara Ariano. Tara 00:59 It's still good. Dave 01:00 Woke remake Kathryn vanArendonk Kathryn 01:02 Uh there are no problems with American history. Dave 01:04 And weird show buried in summer, so only critics will see it. Alan Sepinwall. Alan 01:09 All right. Tara 01:18 Welcome to Extra Hot Great for another week. Before we get into our lead topic, Dave, you have some news and a correction about the Drunk Dave uh event. Dave 01:30 Event, yes, that's true. Extravaganza perhaps. This Sunday, May 24th, is when it's happening. If you're not familiar with what's going on. Apparently I'm gonna get drunk and make six tiny cannon pitches to everybody that's uh on the zoom call one at a time as I get progressively I'm gonna guess. more drunk. So we'll see how that goes. Originally when I put up the notice on Patreon a couple days ago, I mistakenly put two PM Eastern instead of 3 p. m. Eastern, which is the actual time. So if you were reading that within three minutes of me putting it up, then just know that it is an hour later. It's first come, first serve. I don't think we're going to fill up because Zoom unless you have like a hundred people, but just fair warning, first come, first serve. Hope to see you there. Tara 02:14 Thank you, Dave. And now our guests, they are the co-hosts of the new podcast, TV is Good. It's Catherine Van Ehren Dunk and Alan Seppenwall. Sarah 02:24 Catherine Tara 02:24 Welcome. Dave 02:25 Welcome Sarah 02:25 Allen, yay. Dave 02:26 Bayok. Alan 02:27 Hey, I know you guys Tara 02:29 We're delighted to have you for our summer TV preview, and longtime listeners will know how we do this. We each arrive with one and in some cases, you know, eight or nine in each category in case of crossover. A show we're into, a show we should be into, but we aren't, a show nobody should be into And a recent addition to the rundown, the good for you show where it's, you know, not for you, but you're not mad it exists and you're happy for the people who are going to get to watch it. Dave 02:59 You'll allow it Tara 03:01 It's the Doctor Who category, basically. Kathryn 03:05 I will say You guys don't have a category for the show that I am most frequently entrapped by, which is Tara 03:11 Oh Kathryn 03:12 show I should not be into and yet am. This is this is really a zone where I this is like my quicksand zone. Dave 03:20 We can be innovative here in two Tara 03:22 Mm-hmm. Dave 03:23 twenty twenty six and add that one. Absolutely. Tara 03:25 If you want to uh tell us about your quicksand shows, we'll be happy to hear Dave 03:28 Every year we're gonna add a category until this segment takes like five hours. Kathryn 03:28 Okay. Tara 03:33 Alright, so we're gonna go through each category with each of us taking turns with our picks and we're gonna go Dave 03:36 Mm-hmm Tara 03:39 Alan, Katherine, Dave, Saratara. Alan, what is your show you're into that is premiering this summer? Alan 03:48 Alright, I will say I'm cautiously into it because admittedly the trailers have left me at least a little concerned, but lanterns I want to be into. Sarah 03:55 Mm-hmm. Tara 03:56 Mm-hmm. Alan 03:56 I love Green Lantern. Uh Damon Lindelof is a co-creator on the show. Tom King, another co-creator on it. I've liked a lot of his comic book work. Kyle Chandler as the Hell Jordan Green Lantern. Dave 04:05 Yeah. Alan 04:05 Aaron Pierre, who's fantastic. Just it's a really cool cast, but they're doing it as true detective season Green Lantern, which will either be really great or it'll be one of those things where it's like we're making a superhero show. Tara 04:13 Yeah. Alan 04:18 But we can't actually afford to make a superhero show. So it's a cop Dave 04:21 Yeah Alan 04:21 show where every now and then, like, there's a green light for 30 seconds. Tara 04:24 Yeah. Alan 04:25 But I I live in hope. So please be good lanterns. Dave 04:28 Yeah, I had that in my list for this category too. First of all I find Green Lanterns are just a funny concept to me. Like there's these galactic peacekeepers with rings that generate like fists and like hammers and stuff. Like I'm not poo-pooing it. I just find it kind of silly and fun. So the idea that we're heading into this true detective-style murder mystery is sort of at odds with how goofy I find the whole premise, which intrigues me. And then like all the casts that Allen just ran down is also quite exciting. Tara 04:59 And Laura Linney they just added this week. Sarah 05:01 Yeah. Dave 05:01 Right. And then I understand that it's happening in two different time periods. They're like ten years apart, they're splitting up the the narrative and then on the I assume later side they bring him back Nathan Fillion 'cause I he was in the uh trailer with the silly bull cut From Superman, a movie I did not enjoy, but I thought he was good in it. Alan 05:19 But also how are they gonna fit that character as played in Superman into like the true detective milieu because he's just so ridiculous Dave 05:27 He's gonna come in and tell you about how time is a flat circle in a really just snotty way and then leave again. Kathryn 05:34 I feel like this is the Damon Lindelof thing that works though where you're like that like Watchmen is this is she here's Gene Smart she is fondling a blue metal dildo Dave 05:45 Okay. Kathryn 05:45 and also this is a quite a poignant show about racism Tara 05:49 Yeah. Kathryn 05:49 And so like I I do think that zone when it works, it really works for him. Tara 05:54 I guess we'll see. Kathryn 05:55 Yeah. Tara 05:56 Alright, Catherine, hit us with a show you're into this summer. Kathryn 05:59 You could have knocked me over with a feather, but I am here to announce that I am into the Little House on the Prairie remake. Tara 06:06 Hello. Dave 06:07 Mm Sarah 06:07 Yeah, that was on my long list Alan 06:08 What Dave 06:08 -hmm. Sarah 06:09 too. Tara 06:10 Me Kathryn 06:10 Yeah, it is a new Tara 06:10 too Kathryn 06:13 approach to very, very familiar television material in the trailers and I have I will say that I have s like watched a bunch of the screeners of it already and so I am coming to this with foreknowledge of what this show It's like I have not finished them yet, but I am very curious about anyone who looks at source material that flawed and that tied to a particular perspective on American history and is like What if we tried to do this, but we like acknowledged things like n indigenous people Tara 06:48 Mm-hmm Kathryn 06:49 and black people and the fact that PA is a mess And all of these ways where I am just lured back into the world of this show, I will say part of the reason I wanted to pick it is that I think there was a trailer that came out maybe a month or so ago. that is fully like, We're all alone in the empty, empty West and there's nothing else here to stop us and I thought, Oh, oh dear But from what I have seen of the show so far, I am very curious to see how they land this plane. Tara 07:19 Yeah, I'm pre annoyed by the discourse around the choice to tell the story in a way that acknowledges Sarah 07:26 Mm-hmm Tara 07:26 people existed at the time that were not white, but I really like the reimagined Anna Green Gables show from a few years ago that Netflix did. And with an E, I think this one will have a lot of the same strengths. I'm hopeful too So I'm I and I loved the original show. It was on at 6 p. m. in Regina, hold for giggles, on the prairie Um, so I've watched it all through the original show like four times probably in my life, and I don't remember a ton, and I didn't read the books because I found them boring, but I'm looking forward to the show. Kathryn 07:52 Yeah, well Dave 07:58 I never watched an episode of that show growing up, except for the one because there's an explosion, there's like a TV event movie where they blow up the little house on the prairie. And they showed like the first two seconds of the on the commercial. I'm like, I gotta watch this. Kathryn 08:10 Well, Michael Landon blew up the town. This is the Tara 08:14 Mm-hmm. Kathryn 08:14 Story about the end of that show is that he, rather than have anyone else ever use those sets again, he blew the whole place Dave 08:21 What? Sarah 08:22 Wow, bombed by an angel. Kathryn 08:22 up. Yes. Sarah 08:24 Okay Dave 08:24 Wow Alan 08:25 I saw that TV movie, isn't it? Like evil people by the town, and rather than let them have it, you know Kathryn 08:30 Yes, yes, and Dave 08:31 Oh, okay. Alan 08:32 , he and Minopaloose just blow it up. Dave 08:34 Yeah, we're doing that in Austin with Elon Musk as we speak. We're just blowing up big chunks of the city. Tara 08:40 All right, Dave. Dave 08:41 Yeah, alright, so Alan said lantern, so I'm gonna go with human vapor. Did anybody cross paths with human vapor? Tara 08:48 I I looked into that one Dave 08:51 Alright, so Human Vapor is a remake of a 1960s Japanese movie and it's about this guy in the original movie. He turns into Vapor and then he likes, all right, I'm the best criminal in Japan. Here we go And then in the remake, it's sort of the same thing, except it's he has an assassination list and he's like, I'm gonna do all these things. Just try to stop me, Mr. Policeman. Tara 09:14 Mm-hmm Dave 09:15 And it looks super goopy and gory. It's one of those international trailers that has like two pieces of dialogue because they don't want to scare people with subtitles. Tara 09:24 Sure Dave 09:25 But it looked uh it looked good for Netflix. You know, Netflix has that sort of everything is in the creamy middle, you know, nothing's like super bad, nothing's like super great. It looks like one of those shows But I enjoy the premise on paper. It looks like it could be fun, but also sort of dark, which after watching Widow's Bay, I'm in the mood for more of that. Tara 09:49 Mm-hmm. Also, gives us a new addition if we ever want to do another TV superheroes that are not from Marvel or DC, like we did Dave 09:57 Right. Tara 09:58 at Christmas last year. Dave 09:58 Let me just read you the the log line here from Netflix. Eight episodes sci-fi thriller series in this modern adaptation, terror begins when a person unexpectedly swells and explodes on live TV, throwing society into a panic. Tara 10:12 Mm-hmm. Dave 10:12 The call part Kathryn 10:12 Great time Dave 10:13 announces his target assassinations in advance, mocking the police as he vanishes into thin air. Tara 10:17 Yeah. Dave 10:18 I mean, that's fun. Tara 10:18 I mean that is unexpected to happen on live TV. Dave 10:20 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Alan 10:21 Dozens of people spontaneously combust each year, it's just not widely reported. Sarah 10:26 Mm-hmm. Dave 10:26 Oh, I know Al Tara 10:26 Sure. Dave 10:27 I know Alan. Tara 10:30 Sarah Sarah 10:32 I'm surprised nobody took this one yet, but I will take Star City, which premieres uh May 29th on Apple TV. My husband and I are slowly working our way through this penultimate season of Space Show and uh spoiler I guess if you're not caught up, but once Ed finally croaked, we were like, well now we kind of have nothing to live for, like before before Ed croaking it was like this is ridiculous and we would just be like, you know, MST 3K or 4King it in front of in front of it on the couch and then he died and it's like, this is not Fun. It's taking too long. Get on with it. We're still not totally caught up, but we are seeing promos for Star City, and it's kind of the only thing getting us through. It's like, let's just be completists. about this so that we know what's gonna happen in this uh spin-off, which takes place, of course, on the Soviet side of the NASA Star City Isle. Alan 11:28 Well, Sarah, it the it the show takes place parallel to the events of For All Mankind season one. So you if you don't want to, you don't have to stay current with FAM. Kathryn 11:37 Although, although, I have seen the end of this current season of For Sarah 11:38 Right Kathryn 11:42 All Mankind, and there may be some fun left for you. Tara 11:46 Mm-hmm. Sarah 11:46 Okay. Tara 11:47 Yeah, we watched the last two episodes this weekend too. Dave 11:49 Yep Sarah 11:49 We could bail, but like, if you didn't if you didn't bail after the great duct tape heroics Kathryn 11:55 Um, you mean one of the greatest television sequences in r like recent history? Alan 12:00 Yes Kathryn 12:01 I Sarah 12:01 It's always been at least entertaining. Kathryn 12:01 Yeah. Mm-hmm Sarah 12:04 Like, I have gotten so much mileage out of bitching about Kelly being strapped to a fucking air conditioner and shot into orbit. I think it's gonna be good and I'm interested to see like a big part of the pleasure of early seasons of Space Show Dave 12:17 Yes Sarah 12:17 was the set design and the like actually thinking through what this alternate universe would be like versus turning into Tara 12:23 Mm-hmm. Sarah 12:25 space show. So I'm psyched for it. Dave 12:25 Yeah. Yeah, for all mankind slash space show really should have had the courage to let Ed live until he was like a hundred and ninety-eight. Sarah 12:33 That's what we were saying the other night Dave 12:35 The fatal flaw for this season. Tara 12:35 Yeah. Dave 12:36 It's like I I don't care how bad the makeup is. Just keep on trucking. Like if he just looks like Gus Frank at the end of breaking bad by the last season, fine. Let's just do it Sarah 12:47 Huh? Dave 12:47 because Like, I don't like Joel Kinneman. He's a charisma vacuum, but he's so fucking perfect for this rule, this show Tara 12:54 mm Dave 12:54 that started off with these prestige ambitions and turned out as the stupidest space soap opera ever. Like Sarah 13:00 Oh Dave 13:01 He is perfect for that. Sarah 13:01 my god. Yep, agree. Kathryn 13:02 Yeah. The the only thing that I could think, particularly toward the end for him, is the I think you should leave sketch where Tim Robinson's just like, I have too much shit on me. Tara 13:11 Yeah. Kathryn 13:11 Get the shit off of me. Dave 13:14 Yeah. Alan 13:15 I don't want to be here anymore. Dave 13:15 Oh my God, yes Kathryn 13:17 I don't want to be here anymore. Tara 13:20 All right. Since I'm uh at the end, I'm gonna give you a high and a low. Low one first, it's million dollar nannies, which premieres on Hulu June 18th. Kathryn 13:29 Great, great. Sarah 13:29 Uh-huh Tara 13:30 Apparently no amount of prayer is gonna bring back Bravo 's Pregnant in Heels, which I was obsessed with in its day, but I hope this will come close. It's you know, I'm I assume it's gonna be exactly what you get on the tin. And my high is Interview of the Vampire season three, which I also thought someone was gonna mention. Dave 13:47 Oh yeah. Sarah 13:49 Yeah, that was on my long list too. Tara 13:51 Lestat is a rock star, the boring guy I hated is dead. I mean everything's coming up me, so I'm I'm excited to see what they do with this big time jump. And every bit of promotion I've seen of it is leaning into Sam Reed is hot, like do we need to say anything more? And the answer is no, we don't. That's all you need to say. I'm I'm in. Dave 14:13 So he's a rock star. Tara 14:15 Mm-hmm. Dave 14:15 It's the eighties, nineties Tara 14:16 I believe it's the eighties. Dave 14:17 Or is it contempor Okay. So, you know, he's out there in his glam rock duds, you know, shirt optional and he's Tara 14:21 Mm-hmm. Dave 14:23 sweating, he's all shiny. Do vampires sweat? Tara 14:26 I guess we'll find out. Dave 14:27 Yeah. Kathryn 14:28 Yeah, T Dave 14:28 I mean just biologically it's Kathryn 14:29 V D Dave 14:30 feels like they don't do a lot of things. Okay. Kathryn 14:32 They do some things real well though. Sarah 14:35 Yeah Tara 14:35 Did anyone have honorable mentions before we move on? Sarah 14:39 I had an honorable mention uh premiering July fifteenth on also on Apple. It's called Lucky Could be a real splat given the network that it's on, but it involves con artistry and co-stars William Fickner, and that's simply all it takes, ladies and germs. Tara 14:58 I'll also give a shout out to Cape Fear, which is coming again, our friends at Apple. We'll be dropping that June fifth. Redoing the story for the ACAB era, interesting. Patrick Wilson hot, Javier Bardem also hot, Amy Adams hot, everyone's hot, and I'm interested to see what they do with that as well. Dave 15:15 Do we need another one after The Simpsons did it though? Come on. Sarah 15:18 Yeah. Dave 15:18 Oh no really, that's too much! Alan 15:20 Simpsons did it in 22 minutes and this is gonna be like 10 hours? Sarah 15:21 Yeah Dave 15:24 That's right. Tara 15:24 Mm-hmm. Sarah 15:24 Yeah. This is my should be into but aren't leader Tara 15:28 Mm-hmm. Sarah 15:28 was that one. Tara 15:29 Well, why don't you lead off that category, Sarah, since we've already led you there. Sarah 15:33 Alright, I'm gonna lead with one that I am certain nobody else has, premiering August 6th on Discovery. Escape from Alcatraz. First of all, there's like 17 programs with this exact title already. Second of all, it's like DB Cooper content, I know. It's going to be a nothing burger. The Anglins did not survive. Even if they did, they would be dead by now. And yet I have a compulsion to watch it just in case someone found some broken chunk of DNA on a an ascot or a seashell and they're like, well, this proves definitively. And I'm like, no, it doesn't. And also there's commercials. Why? Why am I doing this to myself? This is the life that we have chosen. But yeah, I guess I should be into the big promises about new, you know, revelations about Alcatraz. Like they drowned. It's not new, it's not a revelation. It's a podcast. It's a commercial. It's an email. Move on. Tara 16:32 All right, Alan. Sarah 16:32 Alan Alan 16:33 I should every season it comes back, I keep saying I should be into this and I'm not, and I'll give it another try because I'm just Sarah 16:38 , Alan 16:39 stubborn and stupid. That's House of the Dragon. Sarah 16:41 you can't make it a little bit. Alan 16:41 I really, really like Game of Thrones. Uh I'm not generally a fantasy guy, but I thought that was sort of a really well done version of it. I like a lot of the actors in this show. I think Olivia Cook is doing some great work in the lead among others. And it's so fucking boring. Like I just don't care about anything. It's just, it's empty spectacle. Like the dragons look cool. They clearly have an even bigger budget than anything the original show had. But what Game of Thrones had was it had characters. Like it had characters I was invested in and because they didn't have the budget up front, they were able to make me care so that by the time Daenerys is flying around and just burning people to a crisp. Then I was into it, and then it was really exciting. And I just watched a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms earlier this year and that's dial back like that super budget Westeros, and that was so much fun and it reminded me even more about what a bummer I find House of the Dragon. Tara 17:30 Yeah Dave 17:30 Would you like it better if House of the Dragon was more like dinosaurs where they're actually a family of dragons living in a house? Alan 17:38 Yes, if the dragons were the main characters, I would like that better than whatever it is that Matt Smith is supposed to be playing. Sarah 17:39 I would Tara 17:44 Mm Dave 17:45 Very good. Tara 17:45 fair enough. Kathryn 17:46 I think we you gotta get on board with the dragons. Like the fourth wing train is coming and everyone will be forced to get on board. So you know It's now or never. Dave 17:56 Dragons Kathryn 17:57 Just Dave 17:57 are so hot right now. Kathryn 17:57 it. Dave 17:58 Dragons. Kathryn 17:58 They are. Sarah 17:59 Uh I switched it there. Tara 18:01 Catherine Kathryn 18:03 I should be, but am not into the five-star weekend on Peacock. Sarah 18:09 Mm. Kathryn 18:10 It has Timothy Oliphant being hot. Tara 18:14 Yeah. Kathryn 18:14 And that's that's an important feature, particularly after after Alien Earth, where they were like, what if he had white eyebrows? Sarah 18:17 Yes Kathryn 18:22 And I was like, why would you do this? to anyone and specifically to me. Tara 18:25 Mm-hmm. Kathryn 18:29 So this is a show that is about Jennifer Garner as a sad person and she's uh at a this is an Ellen Hil Hildenbrand adaptation. She is sad and she is at a beach house, which is compulsory in an Ellen Hildenbrand novel. Tara 18:46 Mm-hmm. Kathryn 18:46 And with her friends who are Chloe Sévigner and Darcy Cardin and Regina Hall. And they are all gonna have times of their lives. They're ladies of a certain age, and they are gonna reflect On who they are and where they are and what's gonna what's gonna lead them forward and I think Timothy Olafon is gonna be one of the answers to that question. But I was watching the trailer and Jennifer Garner looked At her friends around the table, and her friends are like, your best friends in the world are here. What do you want to do? And she says, have a goddamn pajama dance party. And I Alan 19:21 Oh Kathryn 19:22 just. Alan 19:22 no. Kathryn 19:22 feel like Alan 19:23 Oh no. Kathryn 19:24 these women deserve dignity and respect Alan 19:25 Oh no. Tara 19:28 Mm-hmm. Kathryn 19:28 and this is not the way to do it. Sarah 19:31 No, this is not that Kathryn 19:32 No. Tara 19:33 Yeah. Kathryn 19:33 So Tara 19:33 Yikes. Dave. Dave 19:35 All right, a show that I should be into, but M naught is Spider Noir. Tara 19:41 Mm-hmm. Dave 19:41 This is the new Marvel show that's not from Marvel propers from like the Sony Tara 19:45 Sony, yeah. Dave 19:45 arm of Marvel. Farble. And this one, like it's serviceable. I don't hate it. I've watched a couple of them in the screener bucket, but I really thought it needed to commit to like atone as its driving force. It's more like uh gray oire than noir. It's not quite there. And also like if you've seen the Spider-Verse movies with him in it, with with Spider Noir in it, like he is sort of a kind of He's not jokey himself, but he pr he's that function in it, right? He's saying these Tara 20:18 It's a gag, yeah. Dave 20:19 Yeah, he's he's breaking the tension or you know, in the moment and that sort of stuff. And that's not really here either. Like not that it's worthy of comparison, but we just watched The Punisher one last time to die or whatever the hell it was called. Tara 20:30 Ooh, that's if you like hearing that, that show is for you. Dave 20:34 That is, yeah, John Barenthal 's here's John Barenthal and that. That's it. That's the whole show. You don't need to watch it now. But in a world where like that is taking place in the same universe as a talking tree, the punisher is like dropping F bombs left and right. He's putting pistols up to people's heads and he's shooting them. So like at least, if nothing else, and truly nothing else, that is being true to its tone, true to its nature. Whereas this feels like it needs to either be smokier or zippier. Either has to go right into that Detective Noir more than it did. Or it has to like play on that playfulness that we saw in the Spider-Ver animated movies. And it sort of is in that middle where it's like, ah. So it's serviceable. Like I'm not having a bad time watching it, but you can see the bones of a better show there that they didn't build off. Sarah 21:30 That's Tara 21:30 Yeah. Sarah 21:31 it's on M Gm plus, right? Tara 21:32 Well it's the premiering there, but then it'll all drop on Prime Video the next day. Sarah 21:36 Oh, okay. Yeah, that's true of so many MGM plus Kathryn 21:40 Mm-hmm. Sarah 21:41 products that it's like just one more draft, just one more pass with the editor. It's almost there, but as it is, you're like, yeah, I can't quite recommend this. Tara 21:50 Yeah. I had it on my good for you list because I feel like it is one of the more imaginative entries into the genre, but Nicolas Cage is the wrong lead. as well. Like he was fine doing the voice in the movie, but mmm. Dave 22:04 I would say he would be good if the writing matched the expectations of that character that we've been given so far. Tara 22:09 Hmm. Dave 22:10 Like if he was off the leash, that would have been better. And I think obviously off the leash is his brand, so that could have been good. Tara 22:16 Mm-hmm. Dave 22:17 Like if he was like super noir detective, like that would have worked. Tara 22:20 Yeah Dave 22:21 Everything about this show so far, granted I haven't watched the whole thing, and we'll report back when we talk about it, but it just seems held back to me. Tara 22:28 Mm-hmm. Well, I had a lot of should be into, but I'm not. What shall I pick since I'm going last on the list? I'm gonna say Life Larry and the Pursuit of Unhappiness, which is coming to HBO June 26th. I love Larry David. I thought the last season of Kirby Enthusiasm was great. I don't know that the Obamas are the creative minds I'd necessarily want to make a doceries about him. Like it's Sarah 22:56 No. Tara 22:56 it's a strange idea So that's kind of how I feel about that. Anyone else have runners up? Sarah. Sarah 23:05 I will not be happy about it, but I will endure the Bears Tara 23:10 Thank you. Sarah 23:10 final season. Tara 23:11 Also on my list. Mm-hmm. Sarah 23:12 Yeah. Kathryn 23:12 Yeah, this this one was a big question mark, question mark. What category does this go in Tara 23:18 Mm-hmm. Kathryn 23:19 for me It is just it's like bolded off on my TV calendar with just a like, prepare yourself and I Sarah 23:25 Yes, repent, repent Kathryn 23:26 how will I feel? Alan 23:26 Uh the bear. Kathryn 23:27 I don't know. Dave 23:28 Gerd, Gerd. Kathryn 23:28 Yeah, exactly. Tara 23:28 Yeah. Yeah Alan 23:31 It's a w it's a weird thing because most of it you don't need to see and then the last five minutes of it you really need to see Tara 23:39 Mm-hmm. Sarah 23:39 Yeah. Alan 23:39 and Sarah 23:40 Yeah, no, that's a good take. Dave 23:40 Well Alan 23:41 this separate thing that it that I don't think Hulu is gonna auto play for you if you try to jump back in. Dave 23:46 I am not a crackbot, but once again I am telling television executives TV end zone, red zone from the NFL, where they show you the highlight plays, that but television. It's all I need. Sarah 23:56 Mm-hmm. Tara 23:57 Yeah. Kathryn 23:57 Yeah, yeah. Tara 23:58 I'll just mention again in my low category Most Extreme Humans premiering on TLC June tenth. Kathryn 24:05 Yep Tara 24:05 There was a time in Dave can attest when there was not a weirdo show from my strange addiction to embarrassing bodies that I would not devour, but I'm not interested in this one, so maybe I'm growing up. Dave 24:14 Yeah. Yeah. Kathryn 24:17 Wow, that's so beautiful. Dave 24:19 Wonder where the guy with the 700-pound testicle is these days. Tara 24:22 I bet you can find that out very easily online. Kathryn 24:22 Good luck to him Tara 24:26 I also bet he has an OnlyFans. Moving on. Sarah 24:29 Oh Tara 24:30 Shows No One Should Be Into Alan Seppenwall. Sarah 24:34 , Alan 24:34 Alright, I thought about this for a while and I decided I'm not gonna be like the snob who picks on the reality show, so instead I went with Dark Matter, which is coming back for another season. The Blake Crouch adaptation with Joel Edgerton, the first season where it's he's like there's multiple Joel Edgertons. So you take this guy who can be good but tends to like default to bland if he's not given the best possible material, and you have a half a dozen bland Joel Edgertons going through these different parallel realities. Dave 25:02 Yeah. Alan 25:02 Jennifer Connolly, largely wasted. I remember I was watching the screeners at the Rolling Stone newsroom back when I was at Rolling Stone, and somebody walks past me and says, What are you watching? I said, It's Dark Matter. And she says, Oh, that's my favorite book. I can't wait for this. And I'm like, sometimes nerds just love stuff because of what it's about as opposed to what it actually is and this uh bad. Not into. Dave 25:25 Yeah, we got through like one and a half episodes, Tara 25:27 One. Dave 25:28 yeah. Yeah. Tara 25:28 Yeah, I was surprised to see it came back. That's one of the many shows on Apple TV where it's like I I assume this is some kind of tact Josh, but good Kathryn 25:35 Yes, a hundred percent. Sarah 25:36 Yeah. Tara 25:36 good to e Kathryn 25:36 Yes Tara 25:37 good luck to everybody. Alan 25:37 They've gotta make at least two seasons to amortize something or other Sarah 25:38 Yeah Kathryn 25:40 Yes, something. Tara 25:41 See also Kathryn 25:42 God knows what. Tara 25:42 Palm Royale Stinky Catherine Kathryn 25:45 Yes, let's get in real close here, friends. Nobody should watch the new Tit Lasso. Tara 25:53 Oh, I was on my list Kathryn 25:53 I just think Tara 25:54 too. Sarah 25:55 Oh Kathryn 25:55 I just Alan 25:56 Whoa. Kathryn 25:56 think that we're done. Sarah 25:57 dang, balls Kathryn 25:58 We're done guys. And and I Sarah 26:00 fired Kathryn 26:00 Um, I was reading the Metacritic TV list to l as I assume we all are at almost every hour of the day. And their description of this was returning after a three-year hiatus and well after the series was considered to be done for good and what my brain read that was returning after a three-year hiatus and well after the series was considered to be good. And I just think that this was not one that we needed to go back to. Tara 26:25 Mm-hmm, yep. Alan 26:26 Uh Catherine, I regret to inform you we will be discussing that on TV is good. Kathryn 26:30 No, no. Tara 26:31 You gotta have a veto system. Sarah 26:34 Yeah Alan 26:35 It's an entire show of forcenings is I think the way we've we're we're thinking of it. Tara 26:39 Oh, okay, interesting Alan 26:42 Yeah. Sarah 26:42 T V is good, Colin Kathryn 26:42 It's at least Sarah 26:44 will prove you wrong. Kathryn 26:46 it's at least half the show. Tara 26:48 Dave Alan 26:49 Yeah. Dave 26:49 Uh show nobody should be into. Alley cats? Kathryn 26:54 Mm, this was on my list. Tara 26:54 Yeah. Dave 26:55 Nobody give away the the end here. Alright. Sixth episode Slacker sitcom. So we're just piling things up. Adult animation Kathryn 27:03 Mm-hmm. Dave 27:05 follows a group of feral British cats. Dot dot dot. From Ricky Gervais. Tara 27:11 Yeah. Dave 27:12 So Kathryn 27:12 Touchdown Dave 27:12 if you want Sarah 27:12 Yeah. Tara 27:14 The aristocrats Dave 27:15 horny wildcats telling you not to eat meat and God is dead, I've got the show for you. It's Alley Alan 27:23 Wait, wait, wait, Ricky Gervais doesn't believe God is real? Dave 27:23 Cats. Alan 27:26 What? Tara 27:27 He keeps it quiet, but yes. Alan 27:29 Okay Tara 27:30 Yeah Dave 27:30 It sounds just terrible. Kathryn 27:31 Yeah Dave 27:32 But uh the saving grace is it's adult swim style and they're only twelve minutes long. Tara 27:37 Mm-hmm. But poor Diane Morgan. Dave 27:39 Yeah, she is a voice here. Yeah, she got roped into the Ricky Gervais' sphere of influence. Sarah 27:42 Yeah, oof. Tara 27:42 Mm. Dave 27:44 Hopefully she can get out of that orbit. Sarah 27:46 Someone lost a bet. Dave 27:48 Yeah. Tara 27:48 Yuck. Sarah. Sarah 27:50 All right, well, uh in the interest of averting our eyes from A E's latest attempt to remake live PD or cops or whatever and just keep changing the name and uh waiting for jurisdiction's alleged perpetrators to sue them. I'm not even gonna name that show because fuck off with that What I'm actually gonna tell you you shouldn't be into anymore is Project Runway season 22 Kathryn 28:14 Mm-hmm. Sarah 28:14 on Hulu. I wanted this reboot to work. I like law. It just it just doesn't work. It feels just really amped up, but also insincere. They change the rules a lot. The judges are just absent for no reason. I mean it's just not good. process like there's nothing interesting and designy about it it's just like sewing which watch the Great British sewing be then but if you like the original also track that down online and don't ruin your memories of the uh the cane era with this garbage. It's bad. It's time to let it die. Tara 28:51 A at a certain point someone has to say they need more than a day for these challenges or else we're just watching shit. Sarah 28:56 Yeah. Dave 28:58 This is a whole I am not a crack bot thing, but let's start a new generation of these reality craft shows where they get the time to actually make good products instead of doing this artificial drama with the Sarah 28:58 Yeah Tara 29:06 Yes. Sarah 29:07 Yeah. Dave 29:09 against the shot clock. Tara 29:10 Mm-hmm. Dave 29:10 It's it's too much. Sarah 29:12 Yeah, agree Tara 29:12 With all due respect to season two of Sugar, the Apple TV show, with a big surprise and Colin Farrell. 'Cause there was more show after the big reveal, but I certainly don't remember anything else about that season. at Dave 29:27 Yeah. Tara 29:27 all. Dave 29:28 That he is, in fact, made of sugar Tara 29:30 He's made of sugar. My no one should be into show is L Coming to Prime Video, July 1st. Kathryn 29:36 Oh, yes. Sarah 29:36 Oh yeah. Tara 29:38 This is the prequel to the Legally Blonde series, I guess, and it is Wildly unnecessary. I mean, even the sequel to Legally Blonde was wildly unnecessary, but this like Sarah 29:51 Mm-hmm. Tara 29:51 it just undercuts the whole purpose of the movie, which is like she had a lesson to learn, so she went to law school and learned it about life. And like I don't care what she was doing before that, because she seemed pretty annoying in the first, let's say, two-thirds of that movie before she locked in and figured out what her life's purpose was. Like Uh we don't need to see her as a teen in Seattle, sorry. Alan 30:14 Isn't the whole conceit of the movie that like she is Sarah 30:14 Yeah. Alan 30:16 she at least seems vapid and shallow and has never really had to think deeply about anything until this law school experience, so what is the show? Tara 30:22 Yeah. Yeah, good question. Sarah 30:25 This was on my good for you list because I was really not into the movies ever, and the the beak of it all will make me sad, I think, a little bit to watch it, but um Kathryn 30:34 Yeah. Sarah 30:35 nobody should be into it is also a valid take. Tara 30:38 Okay. Catherine, do you want to talk about your quicksand shows before we move on to our final category? Kathryn 30:43 Yeah, the quicksand show that I I'm ho I don't know. I'm just I looked at it and I thought, don't do it, don't don't Just don't go over there. Dave 30:53 Yeah. Kathryn 30:54 Is uh Storte Fails to Save the Universe, which Tara 30:57 Uh huh. Yeah. Kathryn 30:59 is a uh Big Bang Theory spin-off in which the annoying guy that they the the sort of Kimmy Gibbler of that show turns out that he's in like a multiverse situation is literally traipsing through multiple he's like doing Marvel shows but Big Bang Theory. And I looked at that and I was like Oh dear, oh no. I'm gonna watch five minutes of that and then then I will be compelled to open up a social media platform and be like, guys, guess what's happening on this show? Alan 31:31 Oh no. Don't do it Tara 31:35 I mean, do Kathryn 31:35 Yeah. Tara 31:36 do it. I'll be I would be interested to read Blue Sky Sarah 31:37 Yeah. Tara 31:39 posts about it Sarah 31:40 Embrace it. Kathryn 31:41 Yeah, I know. I I will feel the same way about Sugar Season 2, but hopefully only I will only need one or two episodes to get that out of my system. Tara 31:48 Fair enough. Kathryn 31:49 Yeah. Tara 31:49 All right, good for you, Alan. What is your good for you show of the summer? Alan 31:54 Uh I feel like they've been trying to get this made for years and years, and I know it's at least four years now, but I feel like I heard about it long or whatever. There's finally going to be a Crystal Lake show, another movie prequel about you know Tara 32:05 Right Alan 32:06 Jason Voorhees mom from Friday the 13th that like Brian Fuller was working on for a while before he quit, because that's the story of every Brian Fuller project ever. Tara 32:13 Sure Alan 32:14 And I'm just generally a horror movie Friday cat, so I've seen like 90 seconds of one Friday the 13th movie that they showed at a Comic-Con panel right before like a thing about Watchmen. Uh and so I was a captive audience and so but I have like Friday the 13th fan friends who are very excited, so go with God, enjoy it. Uh I ain't looking. Dave 32:35 So it's before Jason enters the pitcher with his hockey mask and machete. So maybe it's like Wet Hot American Summer? What about that? Sarah 32:43 Yeah. Alan 32:45 Possibly they can squeeze like all the events into one day Tara 32:49 Yeah. Sarah 32:49 And what also makes it hot is blood. Tara 32:51 Right. Kathryn 32:52 Yeah, and what Sarah 32:52 Yeah. Dave 32:53 And what? An American Sarah 32:57 Yeah, that too. Kathryn 32:58 Mine ib of this is uh The Hawk, which is a Will Farrell golf show. Um every one of those words takes me farther from opening any episode of that experience Tara 33:12 Yeah Kathryn 33:12 I was out on an island by myself in my feelings about the Owen Wilson show stick and uh had to had to just raise a white flag of acknowledgement that my hatred for golf Will never allow me to see a good thing. This thing could be the best show anyone's ever made in the history of television. And if they show me a golf course I will turn it off. So I I'm concerned about uh my ability to appreciate it. I also think we already have one of these, so why do we need more? Sarah 33:48 Yeah, bird. Kathryn 33:48 But That good for you, everyone, uh all all of the men who will watch a golf show instead of going to therapy Tara 33:57 What are you saying, though, that the critical consensus on stick was that it was good Alan 34:02 I don't think so. Kathryn 34:02 The popular and sort of warm consent. There were certainly some. There were certainly some people Dave 34:09 Catherine lives on a golf course, one of those condos on a golf course, which is just bias. Sarah 34:13 It wasn't anyone on this podcast, I don't think. Alan 34:16 There is a golf course directly between our houses. Kathryn 34:18 Yes, there is like there's at least two golf courses between our houses that I can think of. think Tara 34:22 mm Kathryn 34:22 of. At least two. Mark Marin is fine. I mean Mark Marin is doing a Mark Marini job. And I had there were a few shows that I had more normies coming up to me in my life and being like, you know what's so fun? And so Sarah 34:35 Yeah. Kathryn 34:35 I uh Sarah 34:36 Uh huh Kathryn 34:36 yeah, good for you Tara 34:37 Uh the only thing I remember from my review of that, because I did watch the entire season to review it, was that it was so low effort, neither Owen Wilson nor Mark Maron would even cut their hair for it. Kathryn 34:48 Oh, for me it was that I watched the by the end of the first episode they were like, what happened to this golf guy? And then he literally turns on a television full of flashback scenes of his dead child and I was like, oh okay, cool. Tara 34:56 Yeah. Great. All right, Dave Dave 35:01 I had little house on the prairie in this category, so I just wanna add to Kathryn 35:04 Mm-hmm. Good for me. Dave 35:06 I just wanna add to the Tara 35:06 And me Dave 35:07 Yes, good for you, Catherine. Tara 35:08 Wee. Dave 35:09 But I am curious to hear Kim Reed's take on this because she is, of course, our little Tara 35:12 Of course Dave 35:14 house on the prairie expert. She's been recapping that for us in dribs and drabs for years and years and years. But hearing about how this has changed, I'm going to guess this is going to be a short run curiosity for Gim and then back to the real stuff for her. Tara 35:29 Perhaps Sarah 35:30 Mm-hmm Dave 35:30 But we'll see We'll see. We'll obviously have her on when we uh when we talk about her properly. So that's all I have. Sarah 35:36 Airing June 1st on the History Channel, History's Greatest Machines with Dolph Lundgren. I have Absolutely no need to watch so much as a frame of this, but I am very happy that this exists, not only for the sake of Mr. Lundgren, but for the sake of Mr. Brady, my husband, who will be like I'm sure this is gonna be stupid and then two hours later he'll still be there like, do they expect me to believe that's a panzer? Like, okay. Everyone's so happy right now. Dan is as happy as if he were getting paid for this. So yeah, June first on the um, you know, Hitler channel. So enjoy that. If you if you like, I'll be over here being happy for Drago. Tara. Tara 36:18 This might be a good for Sarah D. Bunting. I guess we'll find out. It is Anna Pigeon coming to the USA network August 7th. In which Anna Pigeon, a former city slicker, who became a park ranger after a devastating loss changed the trajectory of her life forever. While Anna tries to outrun her demons, her focus turns to solving crimes that have taken place within National Park grounds, no matter who or what gets in her way. Kathryn 36:45 Wow Sarah 36:45 Oh God. Tara 36:46 And a park ranger procedural is at least a new one. Sarah 36:47 Okay Tara 36:50 This feels like a lifetime original from the early aughts, but I guess that's kind of what USA Sarah 36:54 It does. Tara 36:55 is doing now between this and the Rainmaker show, so Sarah 36:59 Mm-hmm. Tara 36:59 You know Alan 36:59 There was some streaming show earlier this year, maybe late last year, where it was like a serialized Park Ranger crime investigation thing, and I can not for the life of me remember the name of it. Tara 37:08 Is it the one with Eric Bana? Alan 37:09 But Kathryn 37:10 Yes. Alan 37:10 Yes, I think so. Kathryn 37:11 Yes, it was. It was called like undiscovered or untethered or unwound or something. Alan 37:15 But like but a crime of the week like Park Ranger show, like how many different murders and such are happening in our national parks that Tara 37:22 Yeah Dave 37:23 Why is that guy walking around with a bear suit? Sarah 37:25 Call it the trail when cold. Do I have to do everything? Tara 37:30 Two updates. That show was called Sarah 37:31 Mmm Tara 37:32 Untamed Alan 37:32 There we go. Tara 37:33 and the um scrotum guy died in twenty Dave 37:35 Oh Tara 37:35 fourteen. Dave 37:36 no. Tara 37:36 We miss him. Kathryn 37:36 Oh, RAP. Dave 37:36 Oh, we miss him Tara 37:38 So Sarah 37:38 In a national park, though, on a golf course? Tara 37:41 I don't think so. Probably in a hospital Sarah 37:43 Hmm. Tara 37:45 because he was not well. Sarah 37:45 Yeah. Kathryn 37:46 Mm-hmm. Sarah 37:47 No. Tara 37:47 Alright, Dave, did you have cleanup you wanted to do? Dave 37:49 Yeah, I got three shows I wanna mention. Just one that never really fit in any category, but it was perfectly serviceable for like a lazy Saturday. afternoon. It's the latest of the Olympic Here's a Year shows from Tara 38:03 Oh yeah, mm-hmm. Dave 38:03 the UK starring uh Yeah, Hugh Bonifeld. I was going to say uh Crawley, but you know, that's this Tara 38:09 Mm-hmm. Dave 38:09 character. Uh 2026 is the newest one, so I'm sure we'll just watch it when there's, you know, a free hour. We got nothing else. The other ones I want to mention is just for the title and sort of the lowered expectations because we're now in discovery is how to catch a dirt bag. Tara 38:25 Yeah. Sarah 38:25 Oh yeah, I saw that one. Dave 38:27 So Tara 38:27 Mm-hmm. Dave 38:28 Predators is too much for our audience. Kathryn 38:28 Great title Dave 38:30 So what's this guy up to? Oh, you know those uh Hall of Shame posters they put up at the convenience store? This guy's one of them! Tara 38:36 Mm-hmm. Dave 38:37 And then my last one, because Kathryn 38:38 Yeah. Dave 38:39 just for the typo I made while I was typing it out in my original list, is the third in the series of Ebola Holmes movies. Tara 38:52 We have enjoyed those. Sarah 38:52 Oh Dave 38:53 Yeah Sarah 38:53 God. Dave 38:53 those are good they're they're fine, yeah. They're they are cute. Alan 38:56 And it's weird watching those and then watching her in like the last season of Stranger Things, because if you watch Stranger Things, like, oh, she can't act anymore, but then in Enola Home she's perfectly, you know, good. Tara 39:07 Mm-hmm. Kathryn 39:07 I have a twelve year old. We will be watching all of the re the next Enola Holmes installments. Tara 39:13 Mm-hmm. Kathryn 39:13 Um I also, if we're shouting at movies, need to point out that there's a pickleball movie starring Jake Johnson called The Dink. Congratulations to my father and fathers everywhere. Tara 39:22 I believe it was written and possibly also directed by Sean Clements of Hollywood Handbook, so I'm looking forward to that as well. Dave 39:29 When are the pickleball people and the tennis people just gonna like have it out? Like Civil War style? Kathryn 39:35 Like a cleansing, like the purge. Dave 39:38 Yeah. Kathryn 39:38 We all await the day. Dave 39:40 Yeah, picklebird. Kathryn 39:41 Mm-hmm Tara 39:42 All right, let's get to plugs. I will go first. I am bringing you the comprehensive coverage of Apple TV's Widow Bay that you have been waiting for. Of course, we talked about it. an extra extra hot grate 407 but I also wrote why Widows Bay is the horror comedy you should be watching at GQ And Breakout Horror Comedy star, that star would be Kate O'Flynn, is giving TV's best performance. Not a headline I wrote, but you know, they gotta do what they gotta do. That's at the Daily Beast. And we will link to both of those in the show notes. Alan, what do you have to plug? I think I know. Alan 40:19 Well, no no, I'm I have two things to plug. Tara 40:22 Ugh. Alan 40:22 So since you know, we have Catherine here too Dave 40:22 Oh Tara 40:23 This guy. Dave 40:23 boy Alan 40:24 She can sort of shoulder more of the load on that one, but I've got a book I wrote about Rod Serling, the guy who created and hosted the Twilight Zone. It's called Serling, A Journey into the Twilight Zone with TV's First Visionary. That is coming out October 13th, spooky season. I spent two years on it, like talked to all sorts of big people about it, you know, Guillermo del Toro and Steven Spielberg and JJ Abrams and Damon Lindelof and sort of all of these people who are in different ways influenced by the Twilight Zone. And I think that's really good. But also we have a podcast. Catherine, what is our podcast? Kathryn 40:58 We have a podcast Is very exciting. We're excited about it. It's called TV is good. Um, I hope you can tell from the tenor of our conversations over the last 20 or so minutes that we will not necessarily be limiting ourselves to TV that is good. And instead this is more of a general statement about a medium that we both love very very much. We are gonna do weekly TV coverage that we are planning to use to talk about new things and big finales, things that we're into, but we are also going to be pairing those with conversations about older shows. So for instance, our first episode, we talk about maximum pleasure guaranteed, um, the Apple show starring Tatiana Maslani, but then we also talk about moms doing crime. um and particularly weeds and the genesis of that whole genre and where that comes from. We're looking forward to uh sort of commingling what is an overlapping but definitely not identical taste in in television. I was laughing uh as I was realizing uh exactly who our audiences are. Alan's audiences, um, like legit TV creators and people who care about the Knicks uh whereas my audience is um queer bones-obsessed librarians. So I think there's probably about four people in the middle there, and this is going to be a a really excellent show for both of them. Um we are uh I am gonna make Alan learn about how Love Island works. I'm really excited about that. Um he's definitely super excited about it too. Yeah. Alan 42:38 Oh, very much so, but only because that means that even though I'm not really into it either, I'm still gonna make you watch Ted Lasso season four. Dave 42:45 I got a solution for you guys when you're sort of like forcing each other to watch a show is just sort of slip in there before the other person watches it that there may or may not be a golf course involved. Kathryn 42:49 Mm-hmm Dave 42:54 And that way you can start filtering things to your advantage. Kathryn 42:54 Wow. Sarah 42:55 Mm, mm Kathryn 42:56 Wow. Yes. Great. Yeah. Tara 42:58 Alan seems to have forgotten, so I will say Kathryn 42:58 Yeah. Tara 43:00 if you can't wait until October to learn what Alan has to say about Rod Sterling. You can come to his panel at the ATX TV festival Dave 43:09 Oh, yeah. Tara 43:09 in next week. Oh my god, it's so soon. Alan 43:11 Yes, I'm so I look am I gonna see you guys where we can eat together? Tara 43:14 Yeah, yeah, we'll see. Alan 43:15 Okay, good, good, perfect Tara 43:17 Mm-hmm. Kathryn 43:17 Mm-hmm, yeah. Alan 43:17 Yeah, so there we're gonna screen an episode of the show called Walking Distance. One of the things that I learned in researching the book is Serling was like a super autobiographical writer and almost everything he did in some ways was inspired by something in his life, and walking distance from I think the fifth episode of the first season is maybe the most autobiographical thing he ever wrote. So me and Dan Feinberg are gonna screen it and then talk about it. So if you're at ETX, please come by. Tara 43:41 All right Dave 43:41 Always a good time. Alan, while we're here talking about Twilight Zone, favorite episode? Can you pick one? Alan 43:47 Uh Monsters are due on Maple Street. I know it's like the basic pitch, but uh Dave 43:50 Yeah. Alan 43:50 basic pick, but like that's the one. That's the one that captures sort of everything that the show did really, really well. Dave 43:55 Yeah. I did a cannon pitch maybe two years ago now for our Christmas episode. Tara 43:59 mhm Dave 43:59 I was making the argument that what you need actually is about Santa Claus. Alan 44:05 But he did a s Dave 44:05 Thoughts Alan 44:06 there's a Santa Claus episode called Night of the Meek where Art Kearney becomes Santa. Dave 44:07 I know there is. Yeah. Alan 44:10 So Dave 44:10 Yeah. Alan 44:10 but no, Sir Serling was born on Christmas and he loved Christmas. Dave 44:14 Yeah. Alan 44:14 So it it like it would not surprise me that there was Christmas subtext and other things he was doing. Dave 44:18 Mm-hmm. Right. Uh, what is where can people find TV is good? Alan 44:23 Um pretty much anywhere you get your podcast, we are also doing a YouTube version at TV is good pod, but like if you go to Apple, Spotify. Amazon, Pocket Cast, etc. You know, on all of our social handles we also have links to the show. But it's you know, lookup TV is good. If that's a problem, both Catherine and I have very unique last names. So if you punch in Seppin' Wall and Van Arendunk, you're gonna find us. Kathryn 44:44 Yeah. We're gonna be doing a Patreon also, um, which you can sign up for for free, just so that you can like see whatever that Patreon looks like. The Patreon eventually we are planning to have people um help uh vote on what we are gonna be watching and we're gonna do commentary tracks um which I think might be a good time but we are also gonna be doing some like deep dives on our favorite uh TV of yesteryear in the meantime. Um, we have picked our first episode. I for one am excited about it. Tara 45:15 All right Alan 45:15 I'm very excited about it. Kathryn 45:15 So Alan 45:16 I watched the episode today and it just left a big smile on my face, but we won't spoil what it is quite yet. Kathryn 45:20 Oh good. Yeah. Tara 45:22 All right, Sarah. Sarah 45:24 Well, I'm really tempted to pretend that my plug is for an extended meditation on the unsolved murder of Baltus Roll, who is b buried next to the clubhouse on the Baltus Roll golf course. They never caught the guys who killed him. But I want Catherine to keep listening, so actually it is true crime that I'm gonna plug, but uh I reviewed uh book Storm at the Capital, which is an oral history of January 6th. As well as The Idiot, which is the latest season from Serial Productions at my True Crime Review blog. That's bestevidence. fyi. Sometimes that Earl gets hung up, so just go to realityblur. com. Uh Eve Beatty and I are very happy to be under the Andy Dennert umbrella. And we also have Susan Howard's Edgar Awards coverage, seven years of archives talking about true crime. Again, bestevence. fyi. We hope you'll come through. It's free. Dave 46:15 And finally, I'll quickly go over what's happening in our cinematic universe. This Friday on Extra Extra Hot Grape 410. We're going to be talking about mating season. That's from some of the talent involved in Big Mouth. And then don't forget, Sunday, May 24th, 3 p. m. Eastern Time is the Drunk Dape episode on Zoom for our club members. Extrahotgreat. com slash club if you want to join before that happens. And then come back here in one week's time at ESG Prime. We're going to be talking about the Burrows, and we're welcoming back the very healthy DeVenture Hard Award. Sarah 46:47 Yay, Phew Tara 46:48 Yes, he got better Dave 46:55 It is time for the Extra Hot Great cannon presenting this week. It is Wendy. Take it away, Wendy. Clip 47:03 The Facts of Life, Season 4, Episode 22. Take my finals, please. I feel delusional trying to get an episode of the Facts of Life into the Canon. Nevertheless, here we are. Ah , for a two-part argument here. Why the facts of life at all, and why this episode in particular. The latter argument seems almost easy if you accept the former. First, why is the facts of life an 80s sitcom with a really rough start aimed toward tween and teenage girls worthy of a canon entry? The four girls are classic tropes of women, not unlike the Little Women Sisters, and seen again later, but on the same network in The Golden Girls. If you start playing the theme song in front of any Gen Xer, even the straight guys, they will sing along and tell you who their favorite was. Coincidentally, my brother and his friends were hanging out together for the holiday weekend They stopped by, and this very conversation happened. Started by my brother, not me. Each of them named their favorites, and my brother reveled over the fact that he could still name all four of them. By season four, the show had really found its feet and it's the last season with everyone together at Eastland. This episode, the one just before Joe and Blair graduate, is the distilled essence of the facts of life. It is a true bottle episode. I think even Catherine Van Erendonck would agree. that showcases the four girls and Mrs. Garrett as the girls spend one night studying for finals in the confines of their single bedroom. and it shows the various relationships among them and their relationship with misses G, even as that relationship is shifting. The episode brings us the best of each girl their group of four, and the two particular friendships of the older and younger girls, especially the Joe and Blair Frenanemy relationship. It also has some legitimately funny moments. The episode shows us the night, focusing on a few moments and then jumping ahead to a couple hours later. There are some classic 80s bits, like Tootie singing along with her Walkman. Natalie's Brainwave exam hat is a running thread The episode veers from studying to fighting to teasing to philosophizing to sincere conversation. Okay, they do a lot of yelling in a small room. There's not much nuance. The laugh track is a lot. But the moment Natalie is yelling at Tootie, and Tootie gets a fit of the giggles, seeing the lightning ball hat askew, and can't yell back because she's laughing too hard. And Joe tries to yell at them both and also starts giggling. It's funny to watch Feels real and breaks the tension of so much yelling. Who just sat there staring in displa obviously I'm not getting through. Uh I'm sorry, what should I have done? You sh What is so funny? Well you two knock it off Now we've already lost two hours cause of Tootie! And Natalie! Nice hat. The hat moment The conversation when Joan Blair are talking quietly about the past and future, and Natalie and Tootie teaching us all that AU is the symbol for gold. Okay. AU for gold, right? Okay A mugger takes your gold watch and as he's running away you say, hey you, give me back my watch! Aluminum A L. Magnesium MG Gold. A U. Are the moments I think of from this episode? Is it canon worthy? I don't know. But this was an important show to people in my cohort. It was about these disparate girls learning to get along with each other and make their way through adolescence. And this episode showcases each one of them who they are, and how they are growing, even if that makes Mrs. G a supporting character in their lives, coming in in the morning bringing them orange juice. If there is a Facts of Life Canon episode, I think this is it. Well there's a special pre-exam breakfast waiting for you downstairs. No time, Mrs. Gary! Don't worry, I made it to go! Ain't thanks Well, you ready? What's in it? Good luck, girls, and hey, let's be careful out there. Tara 51:20 Thank you, Wendy. Our guests chose this one, so Catherine, why don't you start us off? Kathryn 51:26 I chose this one without n knowing ahead of time what Facts of Life episode this was in particular. The name did not trigger for me a particular remem memory of this episode. So I came in thinking, oh, what what episode will this be? And then realized that We had unintentionally chosen a bottle episode episode, and what a delight that that was. Now, obviously I'm gonna spend the next 45 minutes discussing what in this episode does and does not qualify for bottle episode status. Dave 52:00 Here we go. Alan 52:01 Wait, what doesn't qualify as a bottle episode? It's in one room. There's no guest stars. Don't even. Kathryn 52:07 No, it is it is a bottle episode. I mean the only question would be like how much cheaper is it actually to make but I think it clearly it clearly would be because you have a lot faster setups and they they are not having to move between any other sets even the stairs. It's a bottle it's a bottle. Um Alan 52:23 Thank you. Kathryn 52:27 I really enjoyed watching the episode, but I did find myself waiting for the thing that I that I go to these kinds of episodes for, which is the moment where I'm like, I understand these characters in a way that I did not understand. before I get to experience something, this this particular feeling of being trapped all together is a turning point for one of them. And you do get all of these lovely farewells, but it is so caught in the silliness of studying and in things like the brainwave hat and the um AU material, although that Is a funny joke and I did laugh. That I I do feel like it is an episode in search of why it decided to do this particular story. I mean I've I know there are also like kids who stayed up too late and instead they should have studied is a or instead they should have gone to sleep is a a long and and beautiful sitcom trope and and I did find myself appreciating the once again, although I was waiting for Mr. Feeney to be the one who comes in and is like, just go to bed, you crazy kids. And so yeah, I mean I I found this to be a a perfectly nice episode of Facts of Life, but I I I have begun to wonder if Facts of Life is one of those shows that like should be in the canon, except there's no single episode that you can point to to prove why. Tara 53:54 Mm-hmm. Alan Alan 53:55 Well, I mean there is the one where Blair gets stuck on an elevator with a concentration camp survivor, so you know Tara 54:01 Okay. Alan 54:02 Uh, which actually someone on like my what 's Alan watching Discord brought this up the other day, and so when I saw Facts of Life episode list in the can, I'm like, is it that one? But no, it wasn't. It was a bottle episode, so you're welcome, Catherine. It was weird because I watched every episode of the show growing up, like a lot of Gen Xers, and I remembered some aspects, but not others. So sort of the big moment in the episode is the Blair and Joe heart to heart, where Blair talks about how unhappy she was until she came to Eastland. And I'm thinking, is this new information or is this something that's come up previously? And that kind of effects. how I look at this because it it's a good scene and you know Nancy McKean and Lisa Welch will play it well. But I feel like from my very distant memories of the show, there were a lot of those different like. Blair and Joe are like separate from everybody else and they have a heart to heart and they have a brief moment of understanding and then they go right back to yelling at each other. And it was often enough that on the show live it sort of lost effectiveness after a while. I thought this was a pretty good one. The thing that I kept expecting to happen and didn't was they kept emphasizing how many plugs there were in the wall, and I thought, oh, th this must be one where there's an electrical fire, and that's why they wind up doing badly on the test. Dave 55:11 Yep. Mm-hmm. Alan 55:13 But instead No, they just forget to re-plug the alarm clock back in and briefly oversleep, but everything is fine, and Mrs. Garrett gets to quote Hill Street Blues at the end, so all is well. Dave 55:23 It was the last it was like the last episode of that transitional season of Saturday Night Live where they had a fire and then you don't know who's gonna come back the next season. Alan 55:30 Yo, or Tara 55:30 Yeah. Alan 55:31 unhappy days when they decided, you know what, let's stop pretending this is a period piece. We will burn down Arnold's and rebuild it with like contemporary decor and just go from there. Dave 55:38 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Alan 55:40 So this happened a lot. We watched a lot of weird shit growing up. Dave 55:43 Oh yeah. Alan 55:43 Um, I thought this was a nice episode, but like Catherine, I don't know that there is necessarily a fact of life episode. that is canony, but this as sort of a high concept one, where it's just the girls and Mrs. Garrett and nothing else and going nowhere, did do a nice job of capturing the chemistry among the four and then the five of them. So I I was happy to revisit it in that respect. Tara 56:04 I'll go next because I think I've watched more of the show than Sarah or Dave has. I this was another one that was on in syndication and I watched it. over and over the whole way through, back and forth. And I empathize with Wendy as someone else who has tried to get objectively so-so episodes of multicam sitcoms into the canon Dave 56:24 King of Queens Tara 56:25 King of Queens. Dave 56:26 Sorry, oh sorry sorry Tara 56:27 King of Queens, New Adventures of Old Christine, Mom, all of these have been attempted by me. So I I know where Wendy is coming from. Uh if the one where Tootie meets a teen sex worker in a coffee shop in New York is not more canonworthy than this. Like, I mean, I didn't even remember the one about the concentration camp survivor. Wow. it kind of didn't really have any of those moments for me. I think a perhaps a case could be made for the AU joke as a tiny, you know, a tiny joke canon or something. Or, you know, the moment where Natalie is sitting at the table just stewing with her hat iscue and everyone is around her laughing. That was in the credits from this season, I mean s I guess starting in season five to the end of the run of the show, so that's sort of a thing too, I guess. But Kim Fields every line sh is shrieked in this very small space. Kathryn 57:23 Yeah Sarah 57:23 Yeah Tara 57:23 And Mindy Cohn, like, does not deliver a line without sort of smirking like this is I n would have liked it at the time because I was the right age to But uh f from elderly eyes, I don't know. This this one did not work on me. So I appreciate the ballsiness of the attempt, but did not quite go over for me, Sarah. Sarah 57:43 Yeah, I watched this often when it was on and then, you know, once I was freed from it and We were in the nineties, I no longer needed it. I I think that the idea of a show that was formative without being good is an interesting one for us to contemplate in this context and elsewhere. And surely there is uh there are a handful of tiny canon moments that this show has that could advance it into the tiny canon, but this was not especially enjoyable to watch. I was interested though, because I got to the end of it and it was like, sure, I laughed a couple of times, but like just twoties, one pitch of yelling, not convincing, fake laughter. It just was like set at a pitch that historically you would look at this and be like, this is why Sarah does not like multicam because it was all this. It was all at this pitch, and someone do a tiny cannon wardrobe entry for uh Lons of Salzburg nightgowns because they were all over the television and there were like five of them just in this episode. But this show is just like it was fine. When I was a kid I really liked it and I thought it was compelling and great. But I was eight years old. I was ten years old. I did not know any better. And there's just a there's just like a frequency this is occurring on that is not for me, but also you do go back and look at older sitcoms and you're like, oh, this is actually extremely well constructed. There is like uh emotional terrain, it's not all happening at one pitch. This is not that. We did talk about a later season episode for our sister podcast Again With Again With This uh that had Doug Savant in it and I remember thinking at the time that I was quite impressed with Lisa Welchell who was like just a notch above everyone else, despite having literally all the makeup in the fictional Eastland Academy on. She's really good, uh, a little more subtle than some of her castmates, but This was an interesting prospect to think about. I did have in my notes like this isn't a legendary, very special episode. It's not especially amusing or touching. That scene with Joe and Blair was good, but as Alan pointed out, I feel like we've had that like détente and then reset. probably a t three dozen times at that point in the show's run. It's not quite it, but it did raise a lot of questions and good presentation, Wendy. Thanks for making us think about this. I'm not sure how it's gonna go though. Dave Tara 01:00:24 Uh sorry, I had two other things to that I forgot to say to add before Dave goes. One is um to shout out the popular Mechanics spoof cover that is next to Natalie's bed with Miss Piggy on it. Like that in the show notes. And the other is when they all decide, okay, we're just gonna take a nap for ten minutes. No one's ever taken a ten minute nap. Why bother? Sarah 01:00:44 No Dave 01:00:44 No, that's way worse for you than just n Tara 01:00:44 Does it Alan 01:00:46 Yeah, no, it's you're gonna mess yourself up. Dave 01:00:47 foregoing it. Sarah 01:00:47 Yeah. Tara 01:00:47 mm-mm. Dave 01:00:49 Yeah. Tara 01:00:49 No. All right, Dave. Dave 01:00:50 All right. The snack game in this episode was terrible, except for the pizza and the Oreos. Kathryn 01:00:54 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:00:55 Mrs. Garrett 's plate of fresh fruit and probably dry sandwiches here at eleven o'clock or whatever it was was dismal. Banana bread is terrible? There's just so many things going on. I I think they all failed the next day, frankly, because of the snack game here. Tara 01:01:10 Yeah. Dave 01:01:10 It was just terrible. Kathryn 01:01:10 I was concerned that I that we never discover if they did in fact pass. Um Dave 01:01:16 Yeah. Kathryn 01:01:16 it was very upsetting. Sarah 01:01:17 Well the next episode is graduation, you assume at least two of them did. Dave 01:01:21 Somebody's greasing the wheels The other thing about the snacks is I forgot that Oreos used to come in that super crinkly plastic. You know, like it's not just the nice crinkly plastic. Tara 01:01:29 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:01:31 It's the one that like you crinkle it the wrong way and it just splits open on you. Tara 01:01:34 It's just cellophane. Sarah 01:01:35 Mm-hmm. Tara 01:01:36 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:01:36 And then she throws it to somebody? Like you want a cookie? She throws it across the room and they catch it. All those cookies are in bits now. Oreos do not have great structural integrity. Tara 01:01:45 True. Dave 01:01:46 So again, poor snack game here is what I'm learned. And that's it. That's why I'm not voting into the canon. Snack game Kathryn 01:01:53 Yeah, yeah Dave 01:01:54 Uh this is not top tier leer, which is something that I want to put a TM next to now that I've said it out loud. Tara 01:01:58 Nice Dave 01:01:59 Top tier Leer? No I wonder what our view of what the legacy of the facts of life would be today if the theme song wasn't one of the all-time great theme song bangers, if people would be remembering it as much as they do. Sarah 01:02:11 Mm-hmm. Tara 01:02:12 That's a great question. Mm-hmm. Dave 01:02:16 Because like that theme song, undeniable. Tara 01:02:18 Yeah. Dave 01:02:19 But this show just Sarah 01:02:19 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:02:21 like it's Sarah 01:02:22 Deniable. Dave 01:02:23 it is Sarah 01:02:23 Yeah. Dave 01:02:23 yes, thank you. Sarah 01:02:24 It's deniable. Dave 01:02:24 It is quite deniable. I think what we're talking about here is sort of a Sarah 01:02:26 Yeah. Dave 01:02:28 a nostalgia play, you know, like it brings back memories of watching it back then, but like Sarah 01:02:33 Uh-huh. Dave 01:02:34 in the three or four episodes of this I've watched over the past ten years, each one had been like, what the hell was I because I actually watched this because You watched all the TV you could watch when you were a kid in the late seventies and eighties, so this was definitely in my eyeballs. Sarah 01:02:44 Yes, hundred Tara 01:02:44 Mm-hmm Sarah 01:02:46 percent Dave 01:02:48 I probably watched most of them then. But like this isn't a great show. We tried to rewatch Three's Company the uh last month and we're like, nah, this isn't that great either. Like, there's a couple episodes. Sarah 01:02:58 Well Dave 01:02:59 that are farcical enough that I would say, you know, pass, like the anniversary episode. Sarah 01:02:59 , Dave 01:03:04 But a lot of these shows just don't stand the test of time. And I think this is one of them it is. very poorly acted. I was surprised to be reminded just how terrible almost everybody is in this show. And again, it's not a show for 54 year olds here in 2026, but nevertheless, that is where I am judging it from. Sarah 01:03:20 Yeah Dave 01:03:24 So it was a bit off for me. All right, let's make this official. Wow, what a big panel we have today to make this Catherine, what do you say about Take My Finals, please, cannon worthy or not? Kathryn 01:03:35 Sadly, not canon worthy for me. Dave 01:03:37 All right, Alan, what do you think? Alan 01:03:38 I'm afraid not. Dave 01:03:39 Sorry, buddy? Sarah 01:03:40 Good presentation, good discussion that came out of it. Not that good of television, so it's a no for me, I'm afraid. Tara 01:03:48 Wendy recording her herself saying, Is it cannon worthy? I don't know. Put me in mind of the time that Joe was pitching the Natalie Portman episode of SNL Dave 01:03:56 Yeah. Classic. Tara 01:03:57 and like like bailed on it midway through. Dave 01:04:00 Yeah. This isn't good at all. Sarah 01:04:01 I Tara 01:04:01 Um Sarah 01:04:02 know the Tara 01:04:03 yeah. Sarah 01:04:04 screech, yeah Tara 01:04:04 So Wendy, I think you I think you know. It's it's a no for me. Dave 01:04:09 Yeah, me too. But I did really enjoy this discussion, so thank you, Wendy. Alright, so unfortunately. That means the Facts of Life, Season 4, Episode 22. Take my finals, please. You are hereby not inducted into the extra Hawk Ray Kin. Clip 01:04:30 Americans love a winner. Yeah. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. Dave 01:04:36 We've been talking about so much TV. We gotta make this quick. Let's talk about the winners and the losers of the week. Tara has this week's winner. Tara 01:04:42 Winner of the week is the lowdown. It already impressed me by adding Betty Gilpin for season two. Now it is recently announced. Martha Plimpton and Clifton Collins Jr. are going to be in season two as well. Both excellent choices. I'm excited to see what they are all doing. Dave 01:04:58 Noise and loser of the week, Sarody Bundy. Sarah 01:05:00 Yeah, Collins is really underrated. The loser is AMC. They're bringing Chris Hardwick back for a video podcast series. Tara 01:05:08 No Sarah 01:05:08 No one needed this. Tara 01:05:08 and no Sarah 01:05:09 Yeah, no one needed any of that. Tara 01:05:11 Speaking of things no one needed, do you know what time it is? Alan 01:05:14 Oh no. Dave 01:05:16 Is it non-regulation game time? Sarah 01:05:18 Not regulation game time? Tara 01:05:19 It certainly is. Dave 01:05:21 Woo Alan 01:05:22 Yay. Tara 01:05:33 We are between seasons, so I have written a game so that Dave can play. Sarah, can you score key, please? Sarah 01:05:40 Yes Tara 01:05:41 We are playing TubeTunes 17, the spread eel. Dave 01:05:44 Wow. And I just want to say, we're at two tube seventeen. Tara 01:05:48 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:05:48 So these are not easy anymore. The last few have been pretty pr Tara 01:05:50 Well. Dave 01:05:51 pretty tough, so Tara 01:05:52 We'll see. Dave 01:05:53 put on your caps. Tara 01:05:54 Well, what's gonna happen is Dave's gonna play a clip of an original song from television. If you get it from the clip alone. You get three points. If you need a hint, I'll give you a cast member from the show, not necessarily in the clip. Then it is worth two If you still need a hint after that, you'll get another star. Then it's worth one. No free guesses. No show is in the game more than once. We're skipping steel meals, etc. The winner gets a present from me related to one of their correct answers. There are 32 clips and a tiebreaker. Let us throw it to Picky to see who's going first. Clip 01:06:31 We will start with valued guest. Tara 01:06:33 All right, we're gonna go just in first name alpha order, Alan, Dave, Catherine, Sarah. Are you ready to play Tube Tune 17? Dave 01:06:42 Yeah. Sarah 01:06:43 Yes. Alan 01:06:43 Bring it. Tara 01:06:44 Okay. Kathryn 01:06:44 Absolutely not. Tara 01:06:45 Let's start w we'll see. Let's start with clip one for Alan. Clip 01:06:50 I'm in hell, I'm in hell. She tell me get my cone, she don't like my hair. She tell me move my boots, she don't want them there. She says that again, I tell you what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say back up off me, baby, okay? I'ma grown man I'll make my own decisions just not do a face I'm in Alan 01:07:10 Okay Dave 01:07:11 I just want to say Alan's either thinking really, really, really hard or he's taking a dump. I don't know which one's happening right now. Alan 01:07:17 Alright, I'm I'm just gonna take a stab at it. Yeah, I'm we we mentioned him earlier. I'm gonna guess that that's John Bernfall in the class. Ah Tara 01:07:26 Does anyone know? Dave 01:07:26 I love I love the swing. Tara 01:07:27 I love the swing too. Does anyone know? Sarah 01:07:29 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:07:30 Mm-hmm. Tara 01:07:30 That was Josh Hopkins in Cougar Town. Dave 01:07:33 Oh Tara 01:07:33 Cougar Town. Kathryn 01:07:33 Wow. Sarah 01:07:34 My God. Dave 01:07:34 wow, all right. Tara 01:07:35 All right, clip Sarah 01:07:35 Oh boy Tara 01:07:36 clip two is for Dave. Dave 01:07:38 Oh, okay. Clip 01:07:38 Listen to your heart, everything is good, nothing before was real Never fear, everything is here, you know. Dave 01:07:57 Fuck Okay mm mm alright oh oh um is this the Mighty Boosh? Tara 01:08:05 Yes, it is. Dave 01:08:06 Yes Tara 01:08:06 Good for three points. Sarah 01:08:06 Nice Alan 01:08:08 All right. Tara 01:08:09 Clip three is for Catherine. Clip 01:08:12 We could sail the seven seas Hand in hand we could march victoriously I would always feel so safe with you in the Alan 01:08:28 Her face. Dave 01:08:31 Oh she she's got she look look at her puzzled face This is Tara 01:08:35 I really thought Dave 01:08:36 this is Tara 01:08:37 everyone was getting Dave 01:08:37 slam dunk Tara 01:08:38 super easy ones to lead off with. Dave 01:08:39 Catherine come on you know this Kathryn 01:08:41 Is it Tara 01:08:41 You know this one, Catherine. Dave 01:08:42 you're a fan Kathryn 01:08:42 I don't I don't Tara 01:08:43 You are. Kathryn 01:08:44 um all all I had was Flight of the Concords, but I think that's not it. No, I I don't know. I don't know. Tara 01:08:51 Would you like a hand? Kathryn 01:08:51 What is it? I guess, but it's not gonna help. Dave 01:08:55 I guess Tara 01:08:56 It it might help. Dave 01:08:57 so defeatist Kathryn 01:08:58 Fine. Tara 01:08:58 The the first cast member on this show is Shazad Latif. Kathryn 01:09:03 No, I still don't what what is it it's um Dave 01:09:06 Wait, he's still got another hint you can take. Tara 01:09:07 Got another hand. Alan 01:09:08 Yeah , second hand Kathryn 01:09:10 No, y Alan 's never experienced this before. Game time happens and then I forget my own children's names. Tara 01:09:16 Mm-hmm. Kathryn 01:09:17 Um Tara 01:09:18 I think one of them is Allison. I don't know. I know that's not right. Kathryn 01:09:21 Um fine, give me the other hint. Tara 01:09:24 Matt Barry Kathryn 01:09:26 Oh, what? It's a it's a shadows song? It's not a shadow Tara 01:09:31 It's Toast of London. Kathryn 01:09:31 song Oh, it's a toast song. Mm, yes. Tara 01:09:36 Sarah, I know this is dispiriting, but I have a very good feeling about this one for you. Kathryn 01:09:37 Okay Tara 01:09:40 Let's hear clip four. Sarah 01:09:40 Don't say shit like that, it jinxes it. Let's go Clip 01:09:44 My mom 's having a baby. That's why she looks that way. Tara 01:09:53 I Sarah 01:09:54 Oh Tara 01:09:54 love that lyric. Alan 01:09:54 Oh Sarah 01:09:54 my God, this is the worst. Alan 01:09:54 no. Clip 01:09:55 I shall be glad for mom and dad be on it on it Dave 01:10:06 Did we watch that on this show or was this a Tara 01:10:08 This came up and it it it was an ask Dave 01:10:09 I Tara 01:10:11 EHG answer from Sarah. Dave 01:10:11 That's right. Okay, yeah. Sarah 01:10:13 Oh Tara 01:10:13 And I as soon as it came up, I was like Dave 01:10:15 I don't know how I know what this is. Tara 01:10:15 added to my notes. Dave 01:10:17 That's good. Okay. Sarah 01:10:18 is this after school special? Tara 01:10:20 Yes, it is. Sarah 01:10:21 A B C after school special? Tara 01:10:21 Good for three points. Dave 01:10:22 But it's called my mum's having a baby, right? Kathryn 01:10:23 Wow Tara 01:10:24 That's the My Mom's Having a Baby episode, and I had to scroll through to the middle of it to get the extended version. Alan 01:10:25 Wow Dave 01:10:25 Yeah. That is fantastic. Sarah 01:10:32 I'm sorry Dave 01:10:32 Love it. Tara 01:10:33 That's alright. Alright, clip five is for Alan. Clip 01:10:37 Oh Toddler, did you hear when I whispered in your ear about the spaceship that was parked in your yard Next to a Model T car and some beer in a jar But without any gas they couldn't get too far So they hit the gather rope with a turkey And a toad, and a face full of hope and regret. But then a truck passed by and he ran over those guts. And now the turkey is dead and the toad's on life support. Alan 01:11:04 Alright, I don't know the song, but that's Will Forte Clip 01:11:04 I have bumped out Tara 01:11:05 Yeah. Clip 01:11:06 the gold and bowl and it Alan 01:11:07 and Kristen Wigg, so it's gotta be S and L. Clip 01:11:07 and what does your correct Tara 01:11:08 Yes, it does gotta be that. Uh Alan 01:11:11 Alright. Tara 01:11:11 recently came up on the Lonely Island podcast, which I know you listen to or have listened to, so I thought you would know that one. Clip 01:11:13 gold and bowl on it? And what does your correct Alan 01:11:16 I I'm I'm like about a month behind because I've been listening to an audiobook like a chump. Tara 01:11:18 Okay. Sure. Alan 01:11:20 So all of my podcasts are behind me. Tara 01:11:23 Books. Clip six is for you, Dave Alan 01:11:24 Yeah, I know. Clip 01:11:27 Don't let the bad kids get you down. Turn that big frown upside down, you'd be a fool. If you thought that not caring was cool. Dave 01:11:42 I can't place Clip 01:11:43 I Dave 01:11:43 who's that Clip 01:11:43 want to go Dave 01:11:43 who that is, but I'm pretty sure that's from Tasmaster. Clip 01:11:44 with everybody I want to hit a Tara 01:11:45 It is fantastic master. Clip 01:11:45 work and Dave 01:11:47 Okay. Tara 01:11:47 Good for three points. That's Matthew Bainton Dave 01:11:48 Oh, okay. Tara 01:11:49 from Clip 01:11:49 I Tara 01:11:49 series 19 Clip 01:11:49 want Dave 01:11:50 My favorite my favorite guy from that season Clip 01:11:51 to go with Tara 01:11:52 He was very good. Dave 01:11:53 with his peekaboo balls Clip 01:11:53 a rock and Tara 01:11:55 He is presumably scrotum, yes. Catherine, clip seven is for you. Clip 01:12:01 Wake up, wake up, if it's all you do. Look how lucky inside are you. It's not It's what you 'll gain raising your voice to the rain Wake up your dream and make it true Look out, look inside of you It's not We like that time to come out of the door. Kathryn 01:12:32 This sounds like a teen show. Alan 01:12:32 I think I know this. Kathryn 01:12:35 Uh it sounds like a like a or a reality show, um, where everyone has to dance in front of an artist they pretend to know. Dave 01:12:45 Yeah, it does. Kathryn 01:12:47 Um Tara 01:12:47 Mm-hmm. Clip 01:12:47 Oh, yeah. Kathryn 01:12:49 Uh I don't I I'm gonna go with Dave 01:12:54 You got hints. Kathryn 01:12:55 Fine, give me a hint. Tara 01:12:55 I don't know if the thing's hints are gonna help. Kathryn 01:12:58 Yeah, yeah. Dave 01:12:58 Okay, great. Kathryn 01:12:58 Well Dave 01:12:59 Things go great for Catherine. Tara 01:13:00 Well, but I you can have them. Kathryn 01:13:02 Sure, give give them both to me Dave 01:13:04 Yeah Tara 01:13:04 Okay, two cast members from this show are Charlie Gillespie, and I'll give you the bonus hint that it was Madison Kathryn 01:13:04 right away. Dave 01:13:05 , okay. Tara 01:13:10 Reyes singing. Kathryn 01:13:12 Absolutely nothing. Never heard of these people before in my life. Tara 01:13:15 It's Julie and the Phantoms, which I thought you might have come across because of your children. Kathryn 01:13:16 No. Oh, I do think my children did watch that. Tara 01:13:22 Mm-hmm. But I also thought that of Philip Masiac and he had not come across it either. Kathryn 01:13:23 Yeah, interesting. Yes. Tara 01:13:28 Alright, clip eight is for Sarah. Clip 01:13:32 Up with higher education Down with really being dumb dumb dumb dumb Competition's getting rough now Kidney Garden ain't enough now too smart off jump give a yay for modern education and the many subjects you can pick two three four there's a course in student demonstration there's speed reading And who will take wee uh Dave 01:14:03 Wait, before before you give her the hint I just want to say that I have this in the soundboard somewhere Tara 01:14:10 Really? Dave 01:14:11 because we've watched this on the show Tara 01:14:13 Yes, we have. Dave 01:14:14 and there's one little bit where somebody says dumb. I can't find it now, but I know what it is because of that. Tara 01:14:18 Oh Mm-hmm. Dave 01:14:20 Dumb. Tara 01:14:21 One of the cast members of the show is Judy Kern. Sarah 01:14:24 Nope, hint Tara 01:14:26 Another cast member is Goldie Hawn. Sarah 01:14:30 Oh, we did watch this. Uh Rowan and Martin's Laughin. Tara 01:14:33 Yes, it's laughing. Alan 01:14:35 Yeah Dave 01:14:35 Who's the dumb? Who's the actress? Tara 01:14:38 I don't know. Dave 01:14:38 Ruth, somebody? Tara 01:14:39 Oh, Ruth Buszy. Dave 01:14:40 Buzzy, yes. Tara 01:14:41 Yes. Dave 01:14:42 Okay Tara 01:14:42 All right, clip nine is for Alan Clip 01:14:45 When you've got a job to do, you must try with all your heart. Life's profoundest joys go to Girls and boys finish or they start. We face with the work, the shirker shirk, because it's no longer fun. The chaps for whom the whole world claps are the chaps who keep at it till the job is done. Oh Kathryn 01:15:15 This Alan 01:15:15 Okay, so that's not from the Sherry Bobbins episode of The Simpsons. Kathryn 01:15:15 is the first one I knew. Alan 01:15:18 I need a hint. Tara 01:15:19 Your first cast member from the show is Keegan Michael Key Alan 01:15:24 Oh, is it Schmigadoon? Tara 01:15:25 It is Shmigadune good for two points. Dave 01:15:26 Nice Kathryn 01:15:27 Yes, yes Alan 01:15:28 All right. Tara 01:15:29 Clip ten is for Dave. Clip 01:15:31 I'm rapping all day and I'm rapping all night I'm rapping to the beat and I rap it up tight I rap in the morning and I rap till I'm done And everybody knows that I'm number one Cause I'm rapping I'm rappin' I'm rap, rap, rap it, I'm rapping, I'm rapping, I'm rappin' to you ', I'm ', I'm ', I'm rap, rap, rap I'm rap, rap, rap, rap, rap, rap, rappin'. I'm rapping all day and I'm rapping all night. Come on, I'm rapping to the feet and I'm rappin Dave 01:16:01 Oh my god, I love that. Alright, this is season two, I believe, the music episode of Look Around You. Tara 01:16:06 It is. It's a series. They have a di one of those and it's the Music 2000 series where they're trying to imagine what music's gonna sound like in the year 2000. Dave 01:16:12 That's right. Tara 01:16:15 All right, clip 11 is for Catherine. Clip 01:16:19 All I wanna do is see you turn into a giant woman. A giant woman all I wanna be is someone who gets too See a giant woman All I wanna do is help you turn into a giant woman A giant woman All I wanna be is someone who gets to see a giant woman Tara 01:16:43 Child singing about his Clip 01:16:43 I want the car and cut the Tara 01:16:44 fetish. Catherine, what is that show? Clip 01:16:46 car and cut the ball quick. Kathryn 01:16:47 Uh Clip 01:16:48 I have a Tara 01:16:48 It's not actually what he's doing, but Clip 01:16:49 colour and Kathryn 01:16:49 It sounds like Steven Clip 01:16:50 go there. I want to Kathryn 01:16:51 Universe. Clip 01:16:51 go Kathryn 01:16:52 Uh yes? Tara 01:16:53 It is. Dave 01:16:53 Hey Kathryn 01:16:53 Great. Tara 01:16:54 In fact is Steven Alan 01:16:54 Hey Kathryn 01:16:54 Hooray. Tara 01:16:55 Universe for three points. Dave 01:16:55 All right, on the board three points Tara 01:16:58 Good job. Kathryn 01:16:58 Yes, it's all I was going for Alan 01:17:00 , Kathryn 01:17:00 is one. Dave 01:17:00 Alright now she's giving up for real Tara 01:17:03 Clip twelve Clip 01:17:04 And I know you're watching, so go ahead, be my lips. Lady, I know you so upset. See me in your dreams. Singing the song that's in your head when you go to sleep. Wish that you were me, but you wish that you were me Wish that you were me, but you wish that you were me Sarah 01:17:26 Ugh. This is gonna be annoying, I think. Clip 01:17:28 I want that this correct. Sarah 01:17:29 But hint, please. Tara 01:17:30 Steve Martin is a cast member on this show. Sarah 01:17:34 Oh god. Uh only murders in the building? Tara 01:17:37 That is that's the Beanie Feldstein pop star song from season five. Sarah 01:17:40 Sure. Tara 01:17:42 Back to Allen, clip thirteen Alan 01:17:44 Oh boy Clip 01:17:45 She stood six foot four, barely fit through the door. What the hell was the colour of fire? She said, baby, would you leap? Some honest arm speed. Take your desire. And then let the train you higher Rock the redhead all night Rock the redhead so right Rock the red Alan 01:18:13 Uh it sounded kind of like Nathan Fillion, which would make me want to guess Big Mouth, but I'm gonna take the hint. Tara 01:18:20 Good call. Your first hint is Dean Stockwell. Alan 01:18:24 Is it quantum leap? Tara 01:18:25 Yeah. Dave 01:18:26 Wow. Tara 01:18:26 It's the episode where he leaps into a glam rocker and John Dave 01:18:26 Really? Sarah 01:18:27 Oh Kathryn 01:18:27 Wow. Sarah 01:18:27 wow Tara 01:18:30 Grease is also in the band. Dave 01:18:32 Oh Alan 01:18:32 Oh, I remember that. Sarah 01:18:32 Oh Dave 01:18:32 my god. Sarah 01:18:33 my god, if Alan 01:18:33 Okay, yes, good. Sarah 01:18:34 wow Dave 01:18:34 It's coming for a circle because he invented rap Kathryn 01:18:35 Wow. Dave 01:18:37 according to Tara 01:18:38 That's right. Dave 01:18:38 quantum leap 's lore. Alan 01:18:39 Dean Stockwell did invent rap, yes. Tara 01:18:39 Yes. Mm-hmm. Dave 01:18:41 Yeah. Tara 01:18:42 Dave, clip fourteen is for you Clip 01:18:45 Gentle nurses will never be the boss. They sterilise the needles and teach you how to floss. Gentle nurses hand over the tools, top up the mouthwash. And mix the fucking glues. Luncheon meat is lovely, but it's full of fucking fat. Kale is much more healthy, but it tastes of under pants. Tin dot Alan 01:19:09 What is this? Clip 01:19:09 dogs are good value, but the nutrients are low. On Sunday I was Will kill again this time in Middlesbrough. Yes. Kathryn 01:19:17 It's beautiful. Dave 01:19:18 Alright. That's Bob Mortimer for sure. And judging by that laugh in the middle there, I'm gonna guess this is laugh out last one laughing UK. Tara 01:19:27 Yes, it is. Good for three points Dave 01:19:29 Oh my god. He's so good in that first season. Tara 01:19:32 He is very good, but that's from season two. Dave 01:19:34 Oh, okay. I think but he does he does wanna lose in each season. Tara 01:19:37 Yes, he does. Clip 15 is for Catherine Clip 01:19:41 I love my tea. Oh yes I do. I love the funky cool things that can do. Is this what they do all day? Good god. I'm gonna show 'em and grow 'em, and let the whole world know 'em. Cause they're part of me and you. I love my Oh, yes, I do. I love the funky. Kathryn 01:20:13 Okay, I know that I have seen this Tara 01:20:15 I was pretty sure you had Kathryn 01:20:18 Can you give me the a cast member? Tara 01:20:20 Yes, one cast member from this show is Rory Scovile. Clip 01:20:25 I want to go in and Kathryn 01:20:26 Shoot, what is this? Clip 01:20:26 bull. I want Kathryn 01:20:27 Oh okay, give me Clip 01:20:27 to hit a Kathryn 01:20:28 give me another cast member. Tara 01:20:29 I think you're gonna get it off this, and we heard her voice in the middle, Roseburn Clip 01:20:30 cool I want. I want to go in and Kathryn 01:20:34 Oh, it's the it's the one on Apple Clip 01:20:34 bull. I want to hit a Kathryn 01:20:37 that is um but not the one where she's mad about exercising. um the one the and and he's in it and they shouldn't be the friends because they're gonna and um what is the name of that show? It is fine, I think. Alan 01:20:54 Are Kathryn 01:20:54 Um Alan 01:20:54 wait, are there two Roseburn Dave 01:20:56 Uh-huh, uh-uh, no Alan 01:20:56 Rory Scoville shows? Kathryn 01:20:58 No? Well he's not in it, but there's two Rose Burns shows. She's the where Alan 01:21:02 Yes Kathryn 01:21:02 the one where she's mad about exercise. I don't know. It's got one of those Apple names that's like, oh, is it called trying or pairing or shrinking? Or it's like a Tara 01:21:10 Gonna need you to just pick one Kathryn 01:21:11 it's like a I don't know. Um Uh you know what I mean. Uh fine, trying. Dave 01:21:19 We know what you mean, but I don't think you're right either. Kathryn 01:21:20 It's not it. Tara 01:21:20 We know you mean and it's wrong. It is the one where she's mad about exercise. Kathryn 01:21:22 Yeah. Oh, it's the one where she's mad about exercising? Tara 01:21:24 It's physical. Dave 01:21:26 Yeah, aren't we all? Tara 01:21:26 Yes, it is Kathryn 01:21:26 Uh that one's called physical. Dave 01:21:28 Yeah. Kathryn 01:21:28 Yeah Alan 01:21:28 Yes, we just talked about it on the podcast, Catherine. Kathryn 01:21:31 Oh yeah, well I forgot that song I figured it was the one where she was a sad housewife. A different sad housewife. Fine, fine, fine. Dave 01:21:37 Platonic in case anybody's wondering what the other one is. Tara 01:21:38 Is the other one. Kathryn 01:21:39 Yes Tara 01:21:39 Clip sixteen is for Sarah, and then we'll do a score break. Clip 01:21:43 Can you help me find my song? It used to be here whispering right in my ear. Can you help me find my? Can you help me find my? Can you help me find my soul? Sarah 01:22:16 I'm gonna need a hint. Tara 01:22:18 Well, good luck. Your first int is Annabelle Kershaw. Sarah 01:22:22 Nope. Tara 01:22:23 And your second Sarah 01:22:23 Next one Tara 01:22:24 this one might w help. Your second hint is John Sebastian. Sarah 01:22:32 No, no, it doesn't help Clip 01:22:32 I want to go with and play, I want the Alan 01:22:34 You're from the Lovent Spoonful? Clip 01:22:34 discorde. Dave 01:22:37 Is this um is this the uh Clip 01:22:39 I want to go with Dave 01:22:40 I don't know what it's called, but it's like about mice? Clip 01:22:40 and play, I want the discorpent. Tara 01:22:43 Yes, it's the devil and Daniel Mouse. This is one I made us watch Dave 01:22:45 Okay. That's right. Sarah 01:22:47 Oh God, that's right. Tara 01:22:47 the Halloween special. Sarah 01:22:48 Oh Jesus. Kathryn 01:22:50 Wow Tara 01:22:50 Okay, let's do a score break Sarah 01:22:50 Oh Alan 01:22:50 Wow. Sarah 01:22:51 shit. Okay. Um Catherine on the board with three. It's close in the middle. I have six. Ellen has seven, but uh Dave has twelve, so Alan 01:23:02 Yeah, Dave's kicking our ass. Kathryn 01:23:02 Great, great. Sarah 01:23:04 Yeah. Dave 01:23:04 Woo Tara 01:23:05 Okay, let's keep going. Still lots of game to play. Clip 17 is for Alan. Alan 01:23:10 Spring Eagle Clip 01:23:11 It's a Christian rock star that you listen to while you kids repair all. A crown of thorns, some rosaries, loaves and fish down on my knees, on every wall, a holy crucifix. Trees just had crux shit. Tara 01:23:39 Jesus had abs Alan 01:23:39 Alright. Tara 01:23:40 is what you heard at the end of that clip. Alan 01:23:42 Alright. I'm again I'm gonna do what I did in the first and I'm gonna regret it because I'm sure the hint will tell me, but I'm gonna go with clone high. Tara 01:23:48 Yes, good Dave 01:23:48 Whoa Kathryn 01:23:49 Good job Alan 01:23:49 Hey Sarah 01:23:50 Nice. Tara 01:23:50 job. Dave 01:23:51 Nice I had no idea. Second season, I assume Alan 01:23:53 My kids will be very proud of me for doing that, yes. Tara 01:23:53 From this From the second HBO season, yes. All right, clip 18 is for Dave. Dave 01:24:36 Oh my god. Well two problems. I have no idea what that is, and I couldn't tell any words except maybe assholes Tara 01:24:41 It's our souls, but it sounds like assholes, yes. Dave 01:24:45 No idea, I'm gonna need a hint. Tara 01:24:47 Your first hint of someone who is in this is Brian Cox, not the one from Succession, the physicist. Dave 01:24:54 Oh. Him. Oh, uh oh fuck, but which one? Do I have to give you the actual one or can I give you the mele Tara 01:25:03 I think since you're in the lead you should probably Dave 01:25:04 the Clip 01:25:05 I'll make Dave 01:25:05 All right, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. Clip 01:25:06 out the cutoff. Dave 01:25:08 Um Clip 01:25:09 I want to go Dave 01:25:09 is Clip 01:25:10 with everyone. Dave 01:25:10 this Clip 01:25:11 I want to go. Dave 01:25:11 Kunk on Earth? Clip 01:25:12 I want to go Tara 01:25:13 No. Clip 01:25:13 to cutoff. Tara 01:25:14 It's Kunk on Life, the one that was out last year. Dave 01:25:15 Fine Kathryn 01:25:16 No Clip 01:25:16 I want to go with Tara 01:25:17 All right, clip nineteen is for Catherine. Kathryn 01:25:22 , we don't want to be a little bit more Alan 01:25:27 Oh yeah Clip 01:25:33 Chase in my juice, the back of the long, and let the take away. Kathryn 01:25:49 Is this Daisy Jones on the six? Tara 01:25:51 It surely is Alan 01:25:52 Yeah Dave 01:25:52 Wow, nice. Kathryn 01:25:53 Yeah. Sarah 01:25:53 Wow, nice. Tara 01:25:54 A very bad show that I really like Kathryn 01:25:54 Yes. Yes. Yes. Tara 01:25:57 the music from Kathryn 01:25:57 Yes. Dave 01:25:58 Would you Kathryn 01:25:58 Yep. Clip 01:25:58 Kind Kathryn 01:25:58 Yep. Dave 01:25:58 oh Clip 01:25:58 of low Dave 01:25:59 it's gonna say Kathryn 01:25:59 Yep. Yep. Clip 01:25:59 ring Kathryn 01:25:59 Yep. Dave 01:25:59 is that your quicksand Kathryn 01:25:59 Yep. Clip 01:26:00 on Dave 01:26:00 show? Clip 01:26:00 the Dave 01:26:01 Yeah. Clip 01:26:01 bond colour Tara 01:26:02 for sure. Clip 01:26:02 embodied. Dave 01:26:02 We should add quicksand next year, I think, to the thing. Clip 01:26:03 What does it cover Tara 01:26:04 Yeah, that's good. Clip 01:26:04 kind of Dave 01:26:04 I like that one. Clip 01:26:05 because I want Tara 01:26:05 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:26:05 Okay. Sarah 01:26:05 Yeah Clip 01:26:05 to go kind of low Tara 01:26:06 All right, clip Clip 01:26:06 ring? Tara 01:26:07 twenty is for Sarah. Clip 01:26:09 Do you think succumbers has too much power? Do you think music's that is false? Tell us, was your life in danger? Tell us, did you feel any remorse? Would you a great case have racial over? The cameras are rolling so fair, you're so for the record. I'll hold a time down. Say what's on your mind. All the records are anything. Sarah 01:26:48 Cop Tara 01:26:49 Yeah, it is Sarah 01:26:49 rock. Tara 01:26:50 cop rock for three points. Alan 01:26:51 Yeah. Dave 01:26:52 Wow Tara 01:26:52 And I think I might be out of cop rock songs that are available as individual song clips. Sarah 01:26:56 Thank God. Yeah. Although that that song is actually one of the better ones, so that was a good place to leave it, Tube Tara 01:27:03 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sarah 01:27:05 Tudes-wise. Tara 01:27:06 Alan, clip twenty one Alan 01:27:08 Un Tara 01:27:08 is for you. Alan 01:27:08 boy Clip 01:27:09 I am Braniac! Some call me maniac! Got a high IQ which should worry you, cause I might attack! Came back and my formal lead was gone! All destroying my wife and my swans! With my intellect, cities I perfect! I do it alone, but I'm not on my own hard! Alan 01:27:37 I mean, unless I'm losing my mind, that's Harley Quinn. Tara 01:27:40 That is Harley Quinn. You are not losing your mind. Alan 01:27:42 Alan Tudic on Harley Quinn. Sarah 01:27:44 Well, maybe you are, not for that reason. Dave 01:27:46 I was so disappointed when the trailer for the movie Clayface came out and it's like the serious Darkman looking Tara 01:27:52 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:27:52 shit and not that clayface. Tara 01:27:53 Yeah. Dave 01:27:54 Hmm. Sad. Tara 01:27:55 Lift twenty two is for you, Dave. Clip 01:27:57 When I cry at a movie I'm really crying about myself. Only sad that lady's dying cause I'm thinking. When a friend tells me the cousin got a bear disease. My first question is what were the symptoms? Cause now I'm worried. It about me then last Dave 01:28:30 Uh I don't remember this song, but from context clues, from the quality of the song, and the fact that they're all some female performers, I'm gonna guess girls five. Clip 01:28:40 Law does it go out and control that? Tara 01:28:41 That is Girls Clip 01:28:41 Because I'm mad going and control. Tara 01:28:42 Five Ever Alan 01:28:44 Hey Tara 01:28:45 Katherine, clip twenty -three is for you. Clip 01:28:47 Keep on the television Yeah, keep on that 's it 's a day Cause when he killed me inside That's when I came alive Kill the music so training back from death Kathryn 01:29:20 This is not ringing any bells. Can I have a a some cast, please Tara 01:29:24 Sure, one cast member from this show is Catherine Zeta Jones. Kathryn 01:29:29 Oh. Uh No, I need the other one. I need another one Tara 01:29:34 I think you're gonna get it on this, Jenna Ortega. Clip 01:29:37 I'll bond the go at Kathryn 01:29:38 Oh, it's Wednesday? Clip 01:29:38 Babo Tara 01:29:39 It's Wednesday. Clip 01:29:39 on it. Kathryn 01:29:40 Oh, okay. Tara 01:29:41 And apparently that's an original song because Lady Gaga is submitting it for the Emmys. Clip 01:29:45 I'll bond the go at Babo. Tara 01:29:45 Clip 24 is for Sarah. Clip 01:29:49 What do they say? What do they say? What do they say? He's going to say, he's gonna say, he's gonna say, he's gonna take it, he's gonna say , he's going to say. What do they say about their profit and about the Lord Dave 01:30:13 Oh yeah. Tara 01:30:14 Now, I picked this because I was like, this was a tiny cannon pitch, so we all heard it, and then I thought, wait, was this I only while I was cutting the Calypse did I think was this one Sarah was off. So it might have been and if that was the case. Sorry, Sarah. Dave 01:30:27 In which case, good fucking luck Sarah 01:30:30 Yeah, um, it wouldn't have helped in any case, uh, so I need a hint. Tara 01:30:35 One person on this episode at least is Jimmy Carr. Sarah 01:30:41 Great, good for Jimmy. Another hint, please. Tara 01:30:43 Stephen Fry, mm-hmm Dave 01:30:45 It's a very short title. Sarah 01:30:48 Fries I don't know. I don't know the answer to this. Dave 01:30:52 It was pretty short. Tara 01:30:52 Do you remember what it's called, Dave? Dave 01:30:54 Skew I Tara 01:30:54 It is QI. Sorry, Sarah Sarah 01:30:56 Oh well. Dave 01:30:58 That might have been when Sarah was off, yeah. Tara 01:30:59 I that's what I'm saying, I think it was. Sarah 01:31:00 Yeah. Clip 01:31:00 It is Tara 01:31:01 Alright, clip twenty-five is for Alan Clip 01:31:04 What's it all about? Is there any point? Do we start dying the moment we are born? Dave 01:31:18 Erstmal Alan 01:31:19 I'm gonna need a hint. Tara 01:31:21 Okay, one person in the show is Jake Johnson. Alan 01:31:25 I'm sure he I know he does like voices on something, but I'm just gonna say it's Tara 01:31:29 It Alan 01:31:29 new girl. Tara 01:31:29 is New Girl for two points. Alan 01:31:31 Hey, okay Sarah 01:31:32 Nice Tara 01:31:32 It's a song that the uh Justin Long character in season one wrote for the Halloween show at the middle school right after his grandmother died. Okay, clip twenty six is for Dave. Clip 01:31:43 When we hit the four, yeah, we turn it hardcore. Gonna settle every score, gonna win this holy war to a room that's so divine, turning water into wine, and when you lose Use your mind, we go. Turn of the cheek. Timmy of the cheek. Turn it all the way around the cheek. Timmy of the cheek. Dave 01:32:14 Alright, if I have this right, this is a show that has a lot of really good original songs that are very catchy. I think that's Uncle Baby Billy from Righteous Gems? Tara 01:32:23 Yes, it is. That's from the team Sarah 01:32:25 Well Tara 01:32:25 just dance soft Scene. Club 27 is for Catherine. Clip 01:32:31 It's the crying that reminds us we're alive. It's the cracks that let the light in sometimes. But I can see the diamond in the dust There's beauty in the ruins above. Dave 01:32:57 Call her the warbler. Kathryn 01:33:01 Uh cast Tara 01:33:02 One person in the show is Lucas Bravo. Kathryn 01:33:06 Nope cast Tara 01:33:07 Another person in the show is Lily Collins. Kathryn 01:33:11 It's Emily in Paris. Tara 01:33:12 Yes it is. Kathryn 01:33:14 Wow. Tara 01:33:14 That's a song that her friend, whose name I forget, it might be Ashley, but who's played by Ashley Park Kathryn 01:33:19 Gotcha. Tara 01:33:20 working on when they were trying to get into Eurovision. Kathryn 01:33:20 Okay. Tara 01:33:22 It's a very strange show. Clip twenty-eight is for Sarah. Clip 01:33:26 You took me by the hair , smayed me a hair that one night you made it. Everything all right, so rising right on night, all right, oh yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Sarah 01:33:59 I need a hint. Tara 01:34:01 Okay, John Krasinski is one person in this show. Sarah 01:34:04 Uh the office? Tara 01:34:05 It is The Office for Two Points. It's from the episode Stephanie pitched for the canon, the dinner party episodes. Sarah 01:34:10 Right K Tara 01:34:12 Let's get a score break. You each have one clip left. Sarah 01:34:16 Well, this still could be anyone's game, but I mean probably not Clip 01:34:18 It's called Sarah 01:34:20 Catherine's with eight points or mine with 11, but uh Alan has 15 and Dave has 18, so who Dave 01:34:26 Cool. Sarah 01:34:27 can Tara 01:34:27 Ooh, all right. Sarah 01:34:27 say? Good luck, everybody! Dave 01:34:29 All right. All right, Alan. Alan 01:34:30 All right, so I can't take a hint. I I gotta Clip 01:34:31 the colour. Alan 01:34:32 I gotta go for three here. Tara 01:34:33 Okay, clip twenty-nine is for Alan. Dave 01:34:33 Yep. Alan 01:34:33 All right. Clip 01:34:35 We argued it was fair use, they said nothing of the sort. We argued it was parody, they said we'll see you in court. And that is why you hear this knockoff melody we got from Warner Brothers for a nominal team. Alan 01:35:04 Is that Conan? Tara 01:35:06 Is that your guess up for the show? Alan 01:35:08 I'm gonna guess, is that Conan? Tara 01:35:10 It is Conan singing, but it's from Conan O'Brien Must Go. Kathryn 01:35:14 Yeah. Alan 01:35:14 Oh Sarah 01:35:15 No Alan 01:35:15 man, all right. Tara 01:35:15 The travel Alan 01:35:16 Congratulations, Dave. Tara 01:35:16 shows. The Austria episode. Okay, clip 30 is for Dave. Clip 01:35:23 If you wanna hug me, better say you love me with a little carousel too. Yeah! Dave 01:35:31 Well that's Tara 01:35:32 That's it Dave 01:35:32 it. The clip ended. Um, does not ring a bell. I'll take a hint. Tara 01:35:36 One person in the show is Daniel Radcliffe. Dave 01:35:39 Oh, uh is this the oh shit was the title? The fall and rise of Reggie Dinkins? Clip 01:35:45 I want to take a Tara 01:35:46 That's correct. Clip 01:35:46 cut off Tara 01:35:47 It's a fake Beatles song. Kathryn 01:35:47 Is that the one that they do? Clip 01:35:48 cutoff. Kathryn 01:35:49 It's a fake Beatles song. Yes. Yep. Tara 01:35:50 Yep. Clip 31 is for Catherine. Clip 01:35:55 You let me drop a truth bomb. Mic check. One, two. See the labels coming at me? Yeah, I see them too. We 're know it all. All the gossip in the hall. Like I'm some kind of puzzle that you can't solve. Or you can stop and ask my name, it's a triple dog. Daryl say E equals me equals M C squared. I'm just a kid with an active mind, but I'm really just like you. We should kick it sometime. We don't need all the labels. Just meet me at the table. Arrange my Kathryn 01:36:20 Cast Tara 01:36:21 One person in this show is Judy Reyes. Kathryn 01:36:24 scrubs. Tara 01:36:26 High potential. Dave 01:36:27 Wow, really? Kathryn 01:36:28 Oh Tara 01:36:28 That's the loathsome smart kid at a tr Sarah 01:36:28 Oh yeah. Clip 01:36:30 And what does it go on? Tara 01:36:31 at a talent show. Kathryn 01:36:32 Sure, yeah Tara 01:36:34 Final clip is for Sarah D. Bunting. Clip 01:36:37 Rosa, Rosa, Rosa, Rosa. I can't think of your last name, baby. Sarah 01:36:46 Hmm. I mean, it doesn't matter, but uh hint. Tara 01:36:49 One person in the show is Stephanie Beatriz. Sarah 01:36:52 Oh, uh Clip 01:36:52 I want to Sarah 01:36:53 Brooklyn nine nine Clip 01:36:53 go and cut down Tara 01:36:53 That is Brooklyn 99. Clip 01:36:55 the cable Tara 01:36:55 The Pontiac Bandit. Sarah 01:36:57 All right. Tara 01:36:57 Let's get the final scores Sarah 01:37:00 Feel free to file a grievance for with the scoring committee, but I have Catherine with eight I have 13. Alan finished with 15, and our champion is Dave Clip 01:37:10 It's Sarah 01:37:11 with 20 points. Well done, Dave. Tara 01:37:14 Good job, Dave Dave 01:37:16 Thank you. Sarah 01:37:16 Da-da-da-da-da Dave! Clip 01:37:22 Dave. Tara 01:37:22 Dave, you're welcome Clip 01:37:23 Dave. Dave 01:37:23 Thank you, Tara. Well guys, that is That's it for another episode of Extra Hot Great. We slathered on the sunscreen and sat in front of our TV to bring you our predictive pics and pans for the summer TV season. Before Wendy learned the facts of life were all about her and the Extra Hot Great cannon. We crowned winners and losers of the week and me, Dave, was the winner of this week's game time from Tara Next up, it's mating season on this Friday's bonus extra, extra hot. Great episode. And don't forget, this Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, it's the live Drunk Dave episode on Zoom. Remember. Clip 01:38:02 We're listening. Dave 01:38:06 I am David T. Cole and on behalf of Tara Ariano Tara 01:38:09 The turkey is dead, and the toads on life support. Dave 01:38:12 Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 01:38:14 I hate that hat Dave 01:38:16 Kathyrn VanArendonk. Kathryn 01:38:18 None of the hats in Little House are historically accurate. I'm just gonna go on record right now. Dave 01:38:21 Yes, Alan Sepinwall Alan 01:38:23 Shameless plug, listen to TV is Dave 01:38:25 Woo! Alan 01:38:25 good. Dave 01:38:26 Thanks for listening everybody. You gotta do that. We'll see you next time right here on Extra Hot Great. Clip 01:38:32 Is that a new song? Yeah, it I'm not really ready to share it yet.