Should You Mark Mating Season On Your Calendar?

Dave 00:00 Uh Austin is rolling. Sarah 00:03 Bay Ridge is rolling. Dave 00:04 Alright. Oh right. Everybody hear this? No, that sounds low. Tara 00:09 It's a little low. Dave 00:10 There we go. Tara 00:11 Yes. Dave 00:12 The important thing is to have the foot pedal connected. Yes, foot pedal. All right. And now, Sarah D. Bunting, to break the curse, we will do this: the following. Tara 00:26 Sorry Sarah 00:26 Sorry Dave 00:26 Sorry. Alright, curse broken, and here we go. This episode of Extra Extra Hot Great is brought to you by Seth's 15 Seconds of Fame. Clip 00:41 What will we do, baby, without us? What will we do, baby? Without us And there ain't no nothing and we can't love you Each other through Tara 00:56 Yeah. Clip 00:58 What would we do baby without a Now let's see. Macy's underp Oi Vavoy I sold Macy's underpants to Creepy Dave. Creepy Dave How'd he get that name? Oh, well, I think Dave is probably short for David. Oh, and also he's a huge fucking creep. That checks out Dave 01:32 This is the Extra Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 410 for the May 23rd, 2021 D6 weekend. I am traumatized Canadian Fox David T. Cole, and I'm here with big motherfucker named Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 01:51 You made me do this. Dave 01:52 And Raccoon Hands, Tara Ariano. Tara 01:54 So tiny Clip 02:07 Get ready for fun, fun, fun! Dave 02:09 Yes, fun fun on this Sunday Sunday Sunday. A reminder that Drunk Dave episode is coming at you. This weekend it is Sunday at 3 p. m. E. T. Tara 02:22 Yes. Dave 02:22 3 p. m. ET. Tara 02:24 Yes. Dave 02:24 That is noon Pacific. Tara 02:26 Yes Dave 02:27 So if you're interested, go to the Patreon. We have the link there to the Zoom call. And it is this Sunday. Hope to see you there Tara 02:36 Yes Thank you, Dave. Dave 02:39 Thank you, Tara. Tara 02:39 Not quite not drunk yet. Dave 02:41 Not drunk yet. Tara 02:41 R he's run on caffeine, I believe. Dave 02:45 Maybe Sarah 02:45 Mm-hmm. Tara 02:46 Yeah, what time did you get up today? I know it was way before me. Dave 02:49 It was uh oh five thirty Tara 02:52 Well. Dave 02:53 which is late for me recently. I've been getting up at like three and four. It's been fucking terrible and I hate it Tara 02:58 It's been d it's real Sarah hours for Dave. Dave 03:02 Yeah. Tara 03:02 It's quite unsettling. Dave 03:03 But it's good for you because you haven't had to feed the dogs in the morning for almost three weeks now, so Tara 03:08 I know. I do feel guilty about it. Dave 03:10 well you will see. Tara 03:12 Anyway. Sarah 03:12 Do you Tara 03:13 I do a little. I mean, you know, I like to sleep in, obviously Dave 03:17 You can feed 'em when I'm dead. Tara 03:18 That's true. Welcome to Extra Sarah 03:21 have a Tara 03:21 Extra Hot Great. Let's get Sarah 03:23 lot of Tara 03:23 the episode proper. Thank you so much for your support and for making these episodes possible. Today we are talking about mating season. In mating season, a bear named Josh, voice of Zach Woods, wakes up from hibernating to see that his mate Olivia Olivia has left him because he overslept by two weeks and she couldn't waste her mating season waiting for him His best friends want to help, but they have their own issues. Fawn, who is a deer, voiced by June Diane Rayfield, is mourning her mother, Sheila 's murder by hunters. Ray, who is a raccoon voiced by Nick Kroll, is literally caught up with his most recent sex partner, a skunk, and Penelope, a fox, voiced by Sabrina Jalise, is frustrated by her inability to flirt. All of them are looking for love in the forest and discovering things about themselves along the way. The show is created by Jennifer Flackett, Andrew Goldberg, Nick Kroll, and Mark Levin, who previously, all four of them, brought us Big Mouth All ten episodes of the first season dropped on Netflix May 22nd. We may talk about events from any of them. Let's do the chen check-in, Sarah. Should our listeners watch mating season? Sarah 04:33 This is not for me in the same way that Big Mouth was not for me. Tara 04:37 Mm-hmm. Sarah 04:37 I think if Big Mouth was for you, you can proceed, but I'm not going to. Dave 04:43 This is not for you because Big Mouth was not for you because this is Big Mouth. There was no difference between this show and Big Mouth, except now instead of humans, they're animals. Tara 04:50 It really is. Yeah. Sarah 04:52 Mm-hmm. Tara 04:54 Mm-hmm Dave 04:54 And I'm gonna say not as funny I'm sorta fifty-fifty on this. Like there are a couple good jokes, but if I'm fifty-fifty, I'm gonna say Tara 04:58 Mm-hmm. Dave 05:01 pass. Tara 05:02 I agree with you Sarah 05:03 Yeah. Tara 05:04 a hundred percent. I thought it was getting better the further into it we got, but it's just not that funny. Dave 05:08 Yeah, no, mm mm Tara 05:11 early on. So let's get into it. Obviously Big Mouth is one progenitor. Another comp for this is Bojack Horseman, which is another pretty successful adult animation show about anthropomorphized animals These ones have more specifically animal attributes and habits. Did that make them more or less compelling to you than Bojack? Dave 05:33 I feel like this show, the genesis of this show was A, Oh, I wish we didn't end big mouth, but B How can we have more just like graphic depictions of sex in our show? Oh, I know. Tara 05:44 Yeah, mm-hmm. Dave 05:45 Not humans, animals. Sarah 05:46 Yeah, mm-hmm Dave 05:47 I think that was the start of why this show exists. And so a lot of what is in front of your eyeballs starts there, I think. Tara 05:55 Yeah. Dave 05:56 So it's just sort of crass, but not also Sarah 05:56 Mm-hmm Dave 05:59 funny or smart in the way that Bojack Horseman was. Like Bojack Horseman had themes it was shooting for. This is just sort of Sarah 06:07 Mm-hmm Dave 06:08 all over the map. It's just sort of like we're dating, we're we're animals in the forest living our sexual lives. Let's see what happens. Tara 06:15 Mm-hmm. Dave 06:16 Whereas Bojack had a more considered and and grounded approach. Sarah 06:21 BoJack had a better internal idea of the hybridization of like human life and concerns and like scarf wearing by deer Tara 06:34 Yes. Sarah 06:35 and animal concerns and the way that that would play out. Like, it wasn't the same proportions and that's fine, but even if you, the viewer, weren't necessarily sure what that looked like in the room. you got the sense that they like they'd gone to the edges of the paper in terms of like, all right, well, how would a, you know, horse living in a human world actually respond to XYZ? Here it's kind of inconsistent. The animal stuff, like Dave said, I think it's convenient to be really graphic. But it's not funny enough to justify it. Like I chuckled a couple of times. There's a couple of visual little sight gags, like they're at the bar and um the and Josh the Bears. Uh like florid tiki drink has like a f whole fish in it. Tara 07:26 Yeah, yeah Sarah 07:26 Which, like, there's cleverness here, but it's not as clever as it Thanks. Tara 07:32 Yeah Sarah 07:32 And there's something about the particular proportions of human and animal life as it's lived as a source of humor that is like not thought through all the way. Tara 07:43 Mm-hmm. Sarah 07:43 I think. There's an uncanny validness to it, even though it's animated, that that's part of why it's not working. Tara 07:50 Yeah. But some of the jokes like when someone quotes like as the Dalai Lama said, who is of course a llama, like that's a Bojack joke, if the Dalai Lama were in Bojack. He would be a llama, you know what I mean? Dave 08:01 Sure. Sarah 08:02 Yeah. Dave 08:02 Yeah. Tara 08:03 But the rest of it is just, it really is just crass for crass's sake. Sarah 08:03 Right. Tara 08:07 I was reminded in a bad way of the character of Kimiko in this final season of The Boys where like, oh now she talks and all she says is curse words and like dirty jokes. It's not funny. Dave 08:18 There's a scene where the lead character Fawn is having a flashback to her boyfriend Dylan, who is a wolf. Tara 08:25 Yes. Dave 08:25 And he is after the first day just pissing all over their cabin. Tara 08:30 Yeah Dave 08:31 But like really pissing all over the cabin. Like there is pee on the ceiling. He is just like on the bed. They show him peeing on things. P drips on everybody's faces. And it's not that funny. I feel like I can feel the energy in the room when they're writing that, and it seems like it would be a good gag, but then it goes on for like 45 seconds where it should be like a five second joke and there's a lot of that in this show. It just feels like they needed to like step back and make it This is gonna sound silly. Step back and make it more animal-y, or step back and make it more human-y? Tara 09:08 Yes. Yes. Sarah 09:11 Yeah, that's what I was saying. Tara 09:12 Yep Dave 09:12 Yeah, 'cause I feel like their Sarah 09:12 Exactly. Dave 09:14 their tone and how they're approaching relationships just isn't like this weird middle where They can't really nail the jokes. Like I said, there's a couple here and there that are funny, good sight gags, but like overall the ROI for laughs and then committing to twenty-five minutes is not there compared to Big Mouth and like this feels more like the show. What was the show that was born out of Big Mouth that was like We're all the we're we're the industrial demon and angels on your shoulders complex show. Tara 09:45 Human resources. Dave 09:46 Yeah, this feels like more like that, where it was just like, eh, you need less premise probably to make this funnier. Tara 09:51 Yeah. Well the other thing with Big Mouth is that it had sort of a mission Sarah 09:53 Yeah Tara 09:56 because it was, you know, telling more, I guess, emotional stories about like teen sexuality and it got a lot of awards for that, for like how it was frank about all of that stuff. Dave 10:01 Yeah. Yeah. Tara 10:07 And this it's sort of like, okay, they're well, they're all adults, so there's already like less Sarah 10:07 Yeah Tara 10:11 there's less of a value prop here. And it did seem like they were trying to dip back into that sort of public service voice. In the first episode with the whole thing with Ray and the skunk and their copulatory tie for the whole episode, and it's like, okay, well, this is educational, I guess, but like adults can read. Like they don't need to, they don't need this. Sarah 10:30 Yeah, like we all know that about cat dicks. Tara 10:34 Mm-hmm. Sarah 10:34 Like it's Huh? And Dave 10:36 Because you subscribe to the newsletter? Sarah 10:39 Yes. Dave 10:40 Yeah. Sarah 10:40 Cat Dicks Weekly. Everything you wanted to know about barbs. Google it. Don't Google it, actually, especially if you're at work. That there's a whole set piece in the first episode involving death by Dick Bittenoff They committed, but it's just not funny enough. Tara 10:59 Yeah Sarah 11:00 Like the whole, as Dave said, it's down to premise. And like the joke is the joke, but then 10 minutes later, you're still on that joke. Dave 11:09 Yeah. Tara 11:09 Mm-hmm. Sarah 11:09 Like I don't like haha, Dix, but he's d he's dead. Dave 11:14 Yeah. I don't mind craft humor if it's done well, but this just really felt like they had one idea per joke Sarah 11:19 Yeah. Dave 11:20 and just was like, huh, huh? Huh? Huh? And it just never played out. The other thing I found strange about this show, uh especially in comparison to with Bojack Horseman and Big Mouth is that the voice acting is very flat. There's nobody here with like a real cartoon take on things where you would think with animals you would have more of that. There's a couple. There's an owl that's going around that has a very I I'm pretty sure it was probably Jackpick. Tara 11:45 That's a yes, that's Jack McBrear. Dave 11:46 Yeah. Rip R yeah, of course. Tara 11:47 Not the not the uh minister owl who conducts two funerals in the first episode. Dave 11:52 I will be your friend, Owl. Tara 11:52 The Dave 11:53 That is inserting himself. Sarah 11:54 Mm-hmm. Dave 11:54 That was kind of funny. I thought he was good. And it needed more of that, I think. It needed more intrusions into the group's dynamic because the group's dynamic is pretty low-key except for the raccoon, voiced by Nick Kroll, who's just like a horn Tara 12:07 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes. Dave 12:10 dog in the show. Tara 12:11 Yes. Sarah 12:12 Yeah Tara 12:12 And it feels like Nick Krull may have used all of his funny voices on Big Mouth. And now he's just like, I'm just gonna be me. Dave 12:19 Yeah, yeah Tara 12:20 And that's also sort of like, okay, shrug, you know. But the other thing about the Sarah 12:24 Yeah Tara 12:25 the first episode is it I think it does between the the copulatory tie and the dicks being bitten off, it does feel like this is leading with the darkest, dirtiest jokes in the first episode, just so that the viewer knows like what they're getting into, and it's like, you're either gonna be on board with this or you're not. in sort of like the, you know, the cold open of Bubkiss being Pete Davidson jizzes on his mom or whatever. Dave 12:52 Right. We challenge you to like this. Tara 12:55 Yes, exactly. Exactly. Sarah 12:56 Yeah. Tara 12:57 Mm-hmm. Dave 12:58 Yeah. Yeah, challenge not accepted. Tara 13:00 Yeah, yeah. Sarah 13:00 Yeah, challenge on accepted because it's not funny enough Tara 13:03 It's true. It's true. I I don't think there's much else to say about this except Even though there's not a lot about bear life I'm jealous of, getting to hibernate seems pretty sick and I bet that first P Sarah 13:13 Mm-hmm. Tara 13:14 after you wake up is amazing. Dave 13:15 Yeah. Well you know what else feels amazing after a long time Tara 13:23 Mm Dave 13:24 not experiencing it? Tara 13:25 -hmm. Dave 13:25 It's the Ask EHG theme. Loved by forest creatures everywhere. All right, we have been pre-taping for a couple weeks, so we have three episodes to pass judgment on. So let's spin the wheel of judgment. Purp it is me, I am the judge of this week, all right okay 407, our question came from Jovial Gent. After seeing a Chopped Castaways commercial, that's a TV show, which looks like Survivor Meets Chopped, I am wondering what other two reality competition shows should be Combined. I just did the winner for each of these since we got a lot to go through. My winner for this one is Seth. A crossover I absolutely would not want to see because it would be the most harrowing hour of TV every week is The Golden Bachelor meets legendary. A lot of broken bone emojis on that one. Sarah 14:36 Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. Dave 14:38 Alright, Seth, good answer there. Sarah 14:38 Woof. Dave 14:40 408 question came from Flame Splash. Child actors have been retroactively banned. Exclamation point. Recast a show's child actors with adults pretending to be kids. Our winner here is Kenny Bloggins, not only for their name. Tara 14:57 Mm-hmm. Dave 14:58 But for this answer, dinosaurs the show, but the baby is played by Richard Kind without prosthetics. Play to your judge, Kenny. Play to your judge. Sarah 15:09 Uh-huh. Dave 15:10 And our final question comes from Damon. Sarah 15:10 Gorgeous. Dave 15:13 What's the sound effect that would instantly transport you to a particular episode of a particular show? So an episode of a show. Many people didn't read the fine print on that one, and we're just talking about Things from the show generally, sound effects you hear a lot, like the Star Trek bridge sounds and stuff like that. That is not the question that was asked. We're talking about a sound effect only in one episode of a show. Good answers here. Seth said Mike Wozniak's hemorrhoidal fart from Taskmaster. Steel Eric when uh what's his nuts got his eyes popped out on Game of Thrones, nice and squishy. Tara 15:46 Mm-hmm. Dave 15:46 I don't really know how you could Tell the difference between that squish and other squishes, but Steel M Eric might have really good ears. Pamela J. Dot, the lighter repeatedly clicking in the opening seconds of the first episode of Heated Rivalry. There you go, Heated Rivalry, people, you gotta win. Congratulations. I don't even know what she's talking about. I just don't want them on my case. They're crazy. Alright, so Pamela, Eric, Seth, and giving you all stickers for following the rules and reading the FI print. Candy bloggins and Seth, if you want two sets of stickers, I guess that's your prerogative. Let me know. All right, let's get into your questions. For us this week, first one is from Rube Goldberg. They ask, what TV shows are in need of a Frankiac-like website? Tara, answer here, and just probably in case somebody doesn't know, what is Frankieak? Tara 16:40 Sure, Frinkyac and its uh cousin website Morabotron, which is for Futurama. It's basically you can enter any bit of dialogue from the Simpsons on Frankieak. It will bring you to that scene. It will let you make your own memes, putting copy on the image or gif. And you can also edit the text. So if you want to make a particular joke that's like jumping off from a real line, you can do that. And same with Marbotron. Dave 17:06 Maybe one of the greatest public service websites Tara 17:09 Honestly. Sarah 17:10 Truly Tara 17:11 Yes. In alphabetical order, 30 Rock. Dave 17:14 Yeah. Tara 17:15 When I we were recently watching Peaky Blinder. Dave 17:17 Yeah Tara 17:18 I had to make my own now there's this hot slut about every time Tommy Shelby meets a woman 'cause i it's like three seconds later Dave 17:24 Yeah. Tara 17:25 they're fucking. Dave 17:26 Mm-hmm. Tara 17:26 Anyway. So 30 Rock, I think you should leave the Larry Sanders show newsroom. Dave 17:29 They have one for I think you should leave. There is one. Tara 17:32 What? Dave 17:32 Yeah. Tara 17:33 Oh Sarah 17:33 Wow. Tara 17:33 well, thank you, the internet. Sarah 17:35 Love that Dave 17:35 I don't know what it's called offhand, but yeah. Tara 17:36 Delete. I'll f I'll find it while you guys are doing yours. Dave 17:39 Mm-hmm. Tara 17:40 Larry Sanders Show, News Radio, The Other Two, and South Side Dave 17:44 Larry Sandershow would be really great. Nobody would use it besides us, but Sarah 17:46 Yes. Tara 17:48 The gifts alone. Sarah 17:49 We would use the hell out of it Dave 17:49 Yeah. Oh Tara 17:50 Seriously, s Sarah 17:50 though Dave 17:51 yeah, absolutely. Tara 17:52 Sarah Sarah 17:52 Any of the shows that we have covered on our sister podcast Again With This, but especially Melrose, in my opinion, and uh Star Trek original series. And animated series, actually. Tara 18:05 The I think you should leave generator is I think you should quote dot me, which is pretty good. Dave. Sarah 18:11 That's good. Dave 18:12 I also had Star Trek the original series and I threw in Next Generation there too because there's some good things there. Toast of London is one that you didn't mention. Frisky Dingo. Twilight Zone, I thought would be good. Sarah 18:22 Uh Tara 18:23 Yep Dave 18:23 Mr. Show and Seinfeld. Tara 18:25 Oh yeah. Yeah. Someone's Sarah 18:28 Oh, yeah, for sure. Tara 18:29 someone's gotta be working on a Seinfeld one, I would think. Dave 18:31 Yeah, yeah. Sarah 18:31 Mm-hmm. Dave 18:32 What would it be called? Tara 18:34 Mm, monks. Sarah 18:35 Memes about nothing Tara 18:36 Moncochron. Dave 18:37 Yeah. What's the deal with that? Tara 18:39 Mm-hmm. Dave 18:39 Mm-hmm. Sarah 18:39 Yeah. Dave 18:40 Dr. Calhoun, are your TVs wall-mounted or on stands? Sarah 18:41 There you go. Dave 18:45 Sarah. Sarah 18:46 Mine is on a stand, Dave. Dave 18:49 Well, we do have one on the stand in the bedroom, but our fancy ass gigantic TV that is irradiating us as we speak. is in the living room and it's not a fancy mount because it's over the fireplace. Tara 19:01 Mm-hmm. Dave 19:01 So you can't mount a TV over the fireplace mantle because it's too high. Tara 19:05 People do it all the time. Dave 19:06 So we people are wrong. Tara 19:08 TV too high is also a meme online. Dave 19:11 Yeah, and they're right. Tara 19:11 Go on. Mm-hmm. Dave 19:13 So we have so we splurged when we moved in and we had one mounted where you can pull the TV Tara 19:13 Yes. Dave 19:18 down to the correct height. Tara 19:19 Yes. Dave 19:20 And that was great. Tara 19:21 We also have I have a TV on my desk, which is not Dave 19:24 On a stand. Tara 19:24 not a stand. Well it's standing on its feet, but Dave 19:27 Yeah. Isn't that the what they mean? Tara 19:28 Yeah. Dave 19:29 On a stand? Tara 19:30 I guess. Dave 19:30 Yeah. Yeah. Stand or mounted. Tara 19:32 Okay. Dave 19:33 Yeah. What what else would it be? Tara 19:34 I don't know Dave 19:35 How do you would you just like have it loose on the floor? Tara 19:38 Well, I don't think of it being on a stand because it's got its little feet. Dave 19:40 Well it is. Tara 19:42 It's just on a surface. Dave 19:42 That's the stand. Tara 19:43 Okay, fine. Dave 19:43 Wait, but wait, what is the stand if not that? Tara 19:46 I was thinking the stand is like the piece of furniture. Dave 19:48 You're talking about the entertainment console. Tara 19:50 Yes. Dave 19:51 Yes, that's not the stand. Sean, if you were a Smurf, what would your Smurf name be? Tired Smurf. That's disgust. Tara Tara 20:00 Impatient Smurf, as you just heard, and the answer love the last question. Dave 20:03 Today I'll also add in Farty Smurf. Tara 20:05 God, that's not just today either, Sarah. Dave 20:06 Sarah. Pickled onions Sarah 20:12 Uh, you're welcome, everybody. Whiskey Smurf. Dave 20:16 Nice. Damon asks, what would a show that combines The Bear and BJ and the Bear be about? Tara 20:26 The computer hires a chimp to run orders at the sandwich window. Dave. Dave 20:31 This is easy. Food truck. It's about a food truck. Tara 20:34 Ah that's Dave 20:36 Sorry. Tara 20:36 good. Sarah 20:36 Mine was pretty similar. The adventures of Sidney, Marcus, Richie, and Neil Fack as they drive around the country trying to get an 18-wheeler mobile fine dining pop-up venture off the ground. Dave 20:47 You ever see those videos of those crazy automated semi things that turn into stores? I think maybe they make them in China or something like that. They do exactly what you're saying. Tara 20:56 Oh wow. Dave 20:56 They open up it's like a transformer, except it turns into a restaurant. Sarah 20:56 Mm-hmm. Tara 21:00 Neat Dave 21:00 Yeah, the Transformer's name is Calories. Seth, everyone is over Pedro Pascal. So Disney has made the decision to kill him off in the upcoming film The Mandalorian and Grogu, aka T-M-A-G. However, Disney is too cheap to change any branding. So, who with the initials TM will take over the franchise and raise Grogu going forward? Sarah. Sarah 21:26 I respectfully did not take Thomas Magnum because Dave is here. Dave 21:31 Hmm. Sarah 21:31 So I was with Tony Masselli from Who's the Boss? Dave 21:34 All right. Sarah 21:35 Tara. Dave 21:35 Yeah, right, because that's his job. Tara 21:37 I went with Thierry Mugler Sarah 21:37 Yeah. Tara 21:39 so we can get Grogu in some different fits for once. Enough with that fucking robe all the time. Dave. Dave 21:44 I didn't choose Thomas Magnum because there is the ultimate best answer for this, and that is Tony Montana. Sarah 21:51 Oh, okay. Dave 21:52 Because Sarah 21:54 Say hello to my little friend. Tara 21:55 Mm Dave 21:56 likes to say hello to my little friend. Tara 21:56 -hmm. Sarah 21:57 Yes. Dave 21:57 Yeah. It's Krogo Tara 21:58 Pretty good Dave 21:59 Seth is back again. Euphoria recently featured a sequence where Sydney Sweeney was kaiju sized and crushed a man with her boobs. Tara 22:08 Of course it did. Dave 22:09 Sidebar, real? Tara 22:10 Her boobs? Dave 22:11 No, this thing that he's saying. Tara 22:12 I I yes, that's real Dave 22:13 Okay. You never know. Who's a better TV personality to have a dream scenario where the gigantic and how do they squosh people? You know how giant monsters always like to destroy elevated trains? I mean that's their thing, right? Tara 22:26 Yes. Mm-hmm. Dave 22:27 You got an elevator train and gonna do something with it. Well, giant John Ham flattens the whole length of the locomotive when he pulls down his monster pants. Sarah 22:37 Uh-huh. Kim Wexler from Better Call Saul cutting people in half with her Bret of Vengeance. Tara. Tara 22:45 I want to see a gigantic Steve Harvey in a gigantic suit in Family Feud host mode. And when someone gives a bad answer, he puts them on the buzzer and then he smashes the buzzer with them on it. Sarah 22:57 Yes, now I want to see that Dave 22:57 Nice. Sarah 22:59 also. Dave 22:59 Uh Seek it. What is your position, Re the break Ross and Rachel were on or not on? Tara. Friends expert Tara. Tara 23:08 Thank you so much. Adam Grosswirth and I actually had a conversation about this on previously. tv, which, you know, not accessible anymore. If I recall correctly, my view was that Ross was technically right. They were on a break, but sometimes you have to decide if you want to be right or if you want to be happy. And also the way you can tell he knew he was wrong according to the spirit of breakup law, if not the letter, is that he lied about the hookup and tried to cover his tracks to keep Rachel from finding out If he thought he was within his rights to sleep with a girl from the copy place with the belly button ring, aka former sassy model Angela Angie Featherstone, he would not have been so sneaky about it. Sarah. Sarah 23:46 My notes literally have it's a letter of the law versus the spirit issue, no? Tara 23:51 Mm-hmm Sarah 23:52 I mean, yes, they were on a break. Cross could credibly have thought they were fully split up, but he boned someone else like it was the same day, right Tara 24:00 Hours later, yes. Sarah 24:01 Yeah, so he doesn't get to tell Rachel how she feels about it in any case. She feels shitty and hurt. It's not subject to technicalities. Tara 24:10 Right. Sarah 24:10 Dave. Dave 24:11 Yeah, Rachel's kind of a pill, so I'm gonna say they're on a break and I don't Tara 24:14 What Sarah 24:15 Wow. Dave 24:16 know. Tara 24:16 Oh my God. Dave 24:17 Oh Sarah 24:18 Wow. Dave 24:18 no, friends Sarah 24:18 Shots fired. Dave 24:19 fight. Tara 24:20 Boy Dave 24:20 Hmm. B -Jacks, Yellowstone's marketing has spread to coffee, hot sauces, and barbecue sauces, and even frozen foods. So Pick another show, past or present, that needs to have one or more product lines in the grocery store. Sarah. Sarah 24:36 Okay, Dave, prepare to close this portal after we're done, but Dave 24:39 Okay. Sarah 24:40 the Sopranos, the food-food, food line, whole section of fresh produce Dave 24:44 Yeah. Sarah 24:45 at National Groceries uh that tripe dish that Richie brings to Carmelo that time, rabbit bologners from the first season finale, onion rings from Holstens, frozen mustard and relish packets for you weirdos out there. That is mine. Dave. Dave 25:00 Didn't they do something? Or maybe it's a cookbook. Tara 25:02 There was a cookbook, yeah. Dave 25:03 Yeah, that's right. Cookbook. Yeah. I went with Peaky Blinders. It's all manly protein stuff, so it's gonna sell like fucking hotcakes here in 2026. Sarah 25:11 Mm-hmm. Dave 25:12 Protein whiskey, Sarah. Tara 25:12 Yep. Dave 25:13 Mmm, you got your whiskey, but you get protein in it. Sarah 25:15 Mm, ew. Dave 25:16 Pea powder and whiskey together at last. Tara 25:19 Mm-hmm. Dave 25:19 Protein crusted beef strips. I don't know what they eat in the pub. And protein and chips instead of fish and chips. Tara. Tara 25:27 Well, I want Krusty the Clown breakfast cereal, and if you're gonna make that, you should also make Bernzos. I can already get the classic pink frosted Homer Simpson style donut down the street at Foodoo Donuts for real. And I have. Clip 25:41 Enough! I'm so sick and tired of hearing you people talk about food, food, food! Dave 25:45 All right, next questions from Vandy. This week on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me. I don't know if it was actually this week now. Ken Jennings almost identified the game show he thinks of as Dumbass Jeopardy, but discretion talked him out of it. What game show would you all consider to be dumbass Jeopardy? I would like to believe that he himself thinks that pop culture jeopardy is diluting the mothership brand. Tara 26:08 Ooh, yep. Dave 26:08 And that was that was the show he was talking about. Tara 26:11 You're probably right. Dave 26:12 All right, tar. Tara 26:12 Yep. But that was not my answer. Based on the little I know about it, I'm gonna say the floor is dumbass Jeopardy. Sarah. Sarah 26:21 I would love to know what he actually thought it was. Weakest link? But they're all kind of dumbass Jeopardy. Tara 26:27 It's true. Sarah 26:28 It's just differences in the builds. I'm gonna say the chase, though. That's gonna be my answer. Dave 26:33 All right, here is one from AEO twelve thirty. You talked about Dave having a pre-record ritual of playing sound clips. I'm gonna include it at the top of the show before we actually get into the show itself so you can hear what the hell we're talking about. In the past, you mentioned a day where you record several in a row, several episodes between our podcasts in a row. Does Dave play the clips after every record or just before the first? Just for the record, we rarely record just one episode a day anymore. We're always doing two or three. And we just do it at the start because we do have to make sure everybody can hear the sounds pumping through Zoom. There's a whole bunch of things you have to set in Zoom so it doesn't get started at when you hear on the other end. So we just do it once, but we do it properly, and there's a whole series and as you hear on the top of this show. So it is very important we do it once, and then we're good. Knock on wood, therefore no tactical issues. Last question is just for Sarah. Comes from a cocktail Ken. Why does everyone say different stro Wait, wait, we should do it together. Why does everyone say Tara 27:39 Different strokes Dave 27:39 different Sarah 27:39 Different strokes Dave 27:40 strokes? Like that, Sarah. Why? Sarah 27:43 Well, it we really had to spelunk back into the archives for this, but it comes from Game Time and Extra Hot Great 55. It was a wonderful game about funky seventies themes that I completely got sucked into listening to the entire thing because it was really fun. And in this section we got a one second snippet And if we couldn't get the theme song from that, we then got the full lyrics. History was made when I was, I guess, either disgusted or panicked and went, Robot? Could you play the full clip, please, Dave? Clip 28:16 Lyrics. I'm gonna be mad, but I need the whole thing. His own baby. They got nothing but the genes, but they got different strokes. Wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Takes what? Different strokes. Please make a drop of Sarah saying different strokes. Robot in different strokes. Anyway, continue. No, we need that drop. I'm dead serious. Okay. Different strokes. Sarah 29:16 I Clip 29:17 Okay. Uh 10 different strobes to answer questions at game time. Yes, it does. Sarah 29:24 Oh my god, I don't think it's that monotone still, but I had also completely forgotten that in the moment Dave 29:28 No Sarah 29:31 Both my co-host and our guest that week, Adam Grosswirth, like lost it. I guess it was really funny. And we weren't doing video back then, were we? Like we weren't on Zoom. Tara 29:39 No Dave 29:40 Oh, not back then, no. Sarah 29:41 Back then, so I guess just the sound of me being like different strokes, like I it it remains. But I don't know if Dave actually did make a sound drop of it then, but I made one now, so Dave 29:51 No, I didn't. Yeah. Sarah 29:53 it exists. Dave 29:54 We had to make do with just imitating you. I think that's where it got more and more monotone as every time we tried to recreate it. Sarah 29:59 Yeah. Different straw. It's just a string of zeros and ones. Dave 30:02 Yeah. Sarah 30:03 I don't get it, but I guess it was an immediate legend, which I didn't recall. Anyway, accidental genius at work. Clip 30:10 Different strokes. Dave 30:11 Dan Casino has your ask ass EAC question for this week. I have never watched for all mankind. Pfft, shame on you. But I understand there's a lot of little alternative history details that get thrown in. Could you make up a throwaway alt history fact that may or may not have happened in the space show universe? That is your charge. Listeners go to our Discord. Ask Ask EHG channel, put your answer there, or reminding you, if you're in the club, you can go under site and answer there. Just go to this episode page, log in. with your Patreon and then on the Ask Ask EHG segment in the rundown you can click on a thing and answer right there. There's magic! It is time for the tiny cannon presenting this week is Julie! Clip 30:58 What an improbable show Mozart in the Jungle was. Can you imagine Amazon making it today? A quirky show about the behind-the-scenes world of classical musicians. inspired by a memoir of a woman who married Bill Nye the science guy and later tried to poison his garden. The show was ambitious and eccentric, and I loved it, but sad to say no episode is quite flawless enough to submit for the canon. So instead I'm here to nominate season two, episode four, touche maestro touche, for the tiny celebrity cameo canon. Now, these aren't your average celebrities. This show managed to call in the superstars of the classical music world to simply have some good fun. A casual viewer may not immediately clock who these guys are, but we figure it out because we're seeing them through Haley's eyes, and that's enough to get how important they really are. In the episode, the Ingenue Haley Rutledge is seduced by the Smarmy Cellist Andrew Walsh, played deliciously by Dermot O'Roney As part of his seduction, he introduces Haley to pianist Emmanuel Axe and Langling, violinist Joshua Bell, and conductor Alan Gilbert But here they're not playing their instruments, they're playing ping pong and whack-a-mole and they're bowling at a bar somewhere in New York City. This is the place where they come to relax and burn off that performance-induced adrenaline. They look like they're having so much fun. It's all done with a light touch and great editing. At one point, Lang Lang asks Haley for dating advice. At another, Joshua Bell accuses Lang Lang of Cheating during bowling. But my favorite scene is the one where the sixty-six year old Emmanuel Axe plays just dance. Some people think that in order to play the piano really well, what you need to do is keep your fingers limber. But that's not true at all. It's the feet. Horovitz used to say, if my feet don't walk, my fingers don't run. And he was a pretty great pianist. Well, hasn't helped so far. The best part is that Haley gets to meet these guys on her terms. Certainly she's initially wowed by them, but at a certain point they just become regular guys. There are no instruments, no concert halls, no pressure. No worries about quaking in front of the most accomplished people in your profession. They're all equals here, just hanging out and having fun. It's exactly how I'd want to meet my heroes. This delightful fantasy makes me smile every time I watch it, and I hope you'll agree it belongs in the tiny celebrity cameo canon. Tara 33:25 Thank you, Julie. Sarah, why don't you go first? Sarah 33:28 I found this very striking. I did use to play the piano, not especially gift I had to work pretty hard at it, but I did have one shining moment with Schumann's Troy Mirai, and that moment is extremely reliant on peddling to put it over. It's one of those pieces that if you're playing it right, it seems extremely simple and straightforward. And if you're not, it sounds like shit Dave 33:54 What does pedaling do to the piano? Tara 33:57 Re it adds a reverb. Sarah 33:58 There's a sustain pedal, there's a dampening pedal, Troy Mariah's Dave 34:00 Uh Okay Sarah 34:04 pretty tricky with that and actually Lang Lang I think has one of the better known recent versions of it and even he you know generational piano genius only battles it to a draw She overcompensates a little and makes it too sentimental. Um this has been Piano Talk with Sarah D. Bunting. Dave 34:22 Wow. Fucking snobby if he asked me. Sarah 34:24 To to have To have him in this episode and then this guy who looks disconcertingly like a compacted Dave Holmes, in my opinion, talking about how Dave 34:34 Oh Sarah 34:36 Piano playing is so reliant on the feet. I think that was really interesting. And so I'm gonna vote for this just because it was such a like striking moment of television for that to be happening like in a TV show was just wild. Also, I think I reviewed Mozart in the jungle's premiere for MSN Tara 34:56 Yeah. Sarah 34:56 Maybe and was like, I don't care about this, but maybe I should go back and re-watch it. It really was a really was a time to be alive. Dave 35:04 The old one's called MS Then now. Sarah 35:07 Yeah. That's thin. Dave 35:08 I thought he looked like Oliver Platt. Sarah 35:09 That's good. Tara 35:10 Yeah, that's who I thought it was at first. Dave 35:11 I thought it was at first, yeah. Sarah 35:11 Yeah. Mm Dave 35:13 First uh the guy's name is Emmanuel Axe. That should be a tiny cannon just Sarah 35:17 I know. Dave 35:17 by Tara 35:18 It's pretty good. Dave 35:18 himself. Sarah 35:18 Shouldn't he be a classical guitarist? Dave 35:20 He should be, yeah, what the fuck? Sarah 35:20 Or a yeah. What a fascinating presentation. Thank you, Julie, rhymes with Sully. And uh I'm looking forward to hearing what the other, you know, non-piano snobs on the panel. Think. Who's next? Tara 35:33 I'll go next. I did think this was very cute. As non actors go, I'll say Long Long is the best in the scene. He's the best Sarah 35:40 Uh-huh. Tara 35:40 Seeming natural. But the uh Joshua Bell, what are you doing here? Was very uh Chris Martin showing up on Extras So it's like, you know, I understand why you're saying the guy's full name, but I think anyone who is watching season two of Mozart in the jungle probably knows who he is. Sarah 35:56 Yeah, probably knows who it is, yeah. Tara 35:59 I did also like the uh before the clip, the bit where there 's trash talk going back and forth, and Joshua Bell says playing the piano is kind of like typing. Which I'd never thought of before, but it's like Sarah 36:10 Yeah it Tara 36:11 it is a little. Sarah 36:11 yeah, it is. Tara 36:12 I see where he's coming from. Sarah 36:13 It is a lot like it. Dave 36:14 You have a home row, right? You start in the middle and you Tara 36:15 Yeah, sort of. Sarah 36:16 Mm-hmm Tara 36:17 Yes, middle C. Anyway, I uh I agree with Julie. This was very winning and most importantly it didn't go on too long to where You were getting sick of these people being being cute and fun together. They didn't overstay their welcome. I don't know what the rest of the episode does, but at least in this sequence, uh, it was very enjoyable. Dave. Sarah 36:37 Mm-hmm. Dave 36:38 Those games are so hard, Dance Dance Revolution and the like. Tara 36:41 Mm-hmm. Yes. Dave 36:42 I think if I were to play it today, I might die. Just from the lack of ds dexterity, but also, you know, it's very cardio forward, so. Not probably a good idea. I I will admit when I watched this the first time I was just sort of like, I get what they're doing, but I don't know who this is, so it's not really hitting me the way that it probably hit Julie in the moment, knowing everything about that world. So I just had to in my mind make substitutions. You know, if it wasn't a manual acts and it wasn't piano work, then what would it be, you know, type of thing? Who is somebody that did the same thing in the past that I found quite silly and fun. And the one I landed on was when George Plimpton was doing in television commercials Tara 37:25 Yeah. Dave 37:26 back in the 80s, shitting on Atari for Mattel. Sarah 37:29 Oh, yeah Dave 37:30 And I was like, yeah, okay, it's kinda kinda got the same five. I I enjoyed it, but I just like it would have been even better if I knew anything about classical music, which I don't. Everything I learned about classical music or opera I learned from Bugs Bunny. I'm one of those guys, so Tara 37:43 Yeah, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Dave 37:43 Or Ren and Snippy. Sarah 37:44 mhm, mhm Dave 37:45 But I did enjoy it. I thought it was quite fun. And as you say, Tara, just the right amount. Alright, let's make this official. Sarah D. Bunting, what say you? Sarah 37:54 I say yay Dave 37:56 Tara Ariano. Tara 37:57 Yeah. Dave 37:57 Me too. So Emmanuel Axe playing Just Dance from Mozart in the Jungle. You're hereby inducted into the Extra Hot Great tiny cameo cannon. I use my foot pedal to duck that audio clip, so in a way, me and Manual X are doing the same thing. Sarah 38:14 Mm-hmm. Dave 38:15 Yeah. Clip 38:16 Americans love a winner. Yeah. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. Dave 38:22 It is time for not quite winners and losers of the week. I do want to at this point just put a slide of winner in here because I forgot to mention it when we were talking about Sarah's different strokes. Which is the reason why we figured out what episode it was is because Erica has Tara 38:38 Yes. Dave 38:38 a ongoing Google Sheet and it's linked in the FAQ on our site with game time episode information. Sarah 38:45 God Dave 38:46 Um, including the the topics. Sarah 38:46 bless Dave 38:48 So that's how I figured out where it was. So thank you, Erica. She has notes. And it was first appearance of different strokes. So thank you very much. All right, our not quite winner of the week, number one prequel series, Very Young Frankenstein got a series order at FX. This is a prequel to the movie. Young Frankenstein stars Zach Galifanakis. Dolly Wells, if you don't know the name, you know the face. Look it up. You're like, oh yeah, her. Kumal Nanjani, thank God. Tara 39:21 Or else Dave 39:21 And yeah, and the dread Tara 39:22 good Sarah 39:22 Yep Dave 39:23 pirate Roberts from Francis Pride. Tara 39:25 Mm-hmm. Dave 39:26 Carrie Elbeys? Elways? Sarah 39:29 Mm-hmm. Dave 39:29 The most exciting part of the announcement, though, for me was that Stephanie Robinson is involved. According to the article, at this point, we only know that she's an EP on it, but I'm gonna guess she's also gonna do some writing for it. Tara 39:40 I would assume Dave 39:40 And if you don't know who she is, she was a writer on some good shows, What We Do in the Shadows, Atlanta. She wrote the On the Run episode, which is the Jackie Daytona Tara 39:49 Okay. Dave 39:51 episode. Tara 39:51 Yeah Dave 39:51 And she also wrote uh Woods for Atlanta, both of which I believe were in the canon. Tara 39:57 And the barbershop episode Dave 39:59 That's right. Tara 39:59 where paper boy's trying to get his hair cut and Sarah 40:00 Oh yeah. Oh Dave 40:01 Yep. Sarah 40:01 yeah. Tara 40:02 another really great one. Dave 40:02 Yeah, so looking forward to that. And then not quite loser of the week is Tom Brady calling his new celebrity trivia YouTube show Chasers. And this is Tara in the document. Tara 40:14 Editorializing. Dave 40:15 Thus revealing it has no queer friends or employees. Taras questions? Tara 40:23 Dave, did you know what a chaser was in t in slang before you saw this? Dave 40:27 No, I didn't. Tara 40:28 Okay. But you know now. Dave 40:29 I know now. Tara 40:30 Mm-hmm. Dave 40:30 Yeah, it's like um uh uh Quicksilver from uh Pose Tara 40:36 In a way. Dave 40:38 Okay, no? See a bad guy? Tara 40:40 Oh, well he did play one in pose, yes, you're right. Dave 40:42 Okay. Tara 40:43 Yes Dave 40:43 Yeah. I d what was his name? Tara 40:44 Evan Peters. Dave 40:45 Yeah. Tara 40:46 Mm-hmm. Dave 40:46 Okay. Uh we all need to learn things. Everybody learns something everybody has a day where they learn. Tara 40:51 He was less of a fetishist. I think he really fell in love with the trans woman that he was dating. Chris Maloney is the one who really plays someone who is Dave 40:58 Okay , got Tara 40:58 just Dave 40:59 it Tara 40:59 into a particular kind of lady Dave 41:01 All right. Tara 41:02 partner. Dave 41:03 Well, this one's for you, Chasers. Sarah. Sarah 41:06 Or is it? My not quite winner is listeners who want to co-force in me and David T. Cole one day because Tom Selleck is set to host a true crime show for the History Channel. It's named something completely like Google proof. I'm not sure when it comes out, but I'll give it a try. He does have that sort of like authoritative talking head interstitial energy, and uh I hope he makes a lot of money. Good for him. Tara 41:31 Boy, you're not kidding about this title. Crime and Justice with Tom Salek is low effort. Here's hoping that's just the working title, and they come up with something better. Dave 41:40 No Sarah 41:41 My now quite loser, speaking of procedurals, is Law and Order, which is launching a mobile game from an AI-powered studio, Wolf Games. Hmm. I know it's sort of copaganda-ish, but I did play for work, one of the old like PC games from the aughts, and it's not Dave 41:58 Oh yeah. Sarah 42:00 it's not great. It wasn't great gameplay. Dave 42:03 Yeah Sarah 42:03 I don't know what they're gonna do with this. Tara 42:06 Mm-hmm. Sarah 42:06 I'm not gonna find out because ek. Dave 42:09 My favorite part is when you have to collect stars and coins to continue playing law and order AI game. Sarah 42:14 Dun dun dun dun dun Dave 42:16 Maybe it's a match three Sarah 42:16 dun. Tara 42:17 Yeah. Dave 42:18 with heads of everybody. Tara 42:18 That's it, that's what that was my thinking, or it's like, you know, match the jewels so that we can get to the next crime scene. Buy us gas by finishing this level. Dave 42:27 Uh Okay, so it's AI powered, I think they have the perfect way to get around that, which is anytime they make a mistake, the AI system hallucinates or whatever happens, they just have Ice Sarah 42:29 Yeah. Tara 42:38 Uh Dave 42:40 T ask questions about what is should what should have happened. Sarah 42:43 Yeah. Tara 42:43 Yeah. Dave 42:43 And then you have to correct it in like a chat mode or something. Tara 42:45 Mm-hmm. Sarah 42:46 Mm-hmm. Tara 42:46 That's pretty good. Dave 42:47 Yep. Try. Tara 42:49 My not quite winner of the week is the bear, which got name checked not only in Ask EHG this week, but also as Illinois named the Italian beef the official state sandwich of Illinois. I didn't realize there was any doubt that this was the official state sandwich. I be you know, I've barely spent any time there. I assumed that was the case, but good for them for making it official and involving the bear. Dave 43:14 I'm not a crackpot, but every time a state creates a sort of niche official whatever, such as the official sandwich, all the other states are forced to name one. Tara 43:20 Mm-hmm. Yes. Mm-hmm. Dave 43:25 So states that are just like, oh, I'm just passing through, what's the official s Tara 43:28 Yeah, corn Dave 43:29 sandwich of Iowa? Like, oh loose corn Tara 43:33 buddy Dave 43:34 buddy? Yeah. Sarah 43:35 Corn Buddy Tara 43:36 My not quite loser of the week is everyone who had to work on the Madison where the sets had no AC, no bathrooms, and no food. Like, doesn't Taylor Sheridan have all of Paramount's money? Why can't he supply basic needs for Dave 43:52 Wow. Tara 43:52 what people are going to need between scenes. Dave 43:55 We just watched the boys finale and after the actual show they just have this photography montage of all the uh crew shooting it and everything like that. They should do the same thing for Madison except they're all like, oh my God, I'm so hungry. Tara 44:10 Or pee you know, catch Michelle Pfeiffer out back of whatever cabin they're shooting in, like peeing at a bush. Dave 44:15 Yeah, a skeleton with a crew jacket in the corner. Oh no. Tara 44:26 Today's topic is TV's most important troops. Between the Memorial Day holiday on the other end of this weekend and the cancellation of Going Dutch while we were on break. Dave 44:36 I'm so sorry, Tara. Tara 44:37 Thank you. It feels like time for us to thank the TV troops for their service. And so I've asked my co-hosts to arrive with their three most beloved persons or characters enlisted in the military on TV. I will go first since it's my topic. My first troupe is Captain Maggie Quinn, played by Taylor Miziaak in, of course, Going Dutch. I have to start with my dear friend Taylor. Just she's not my friend, but I did interview her for cracked. She was part of a TV trend in early 2025 of shows about estranged fathers and daughters reconnecting. There was also shifting gears with Tim Allen and Kat Dennings and Clean Slate with George Wallace and Laverne Cox. It was a weird trend lit in that like month. Here these strange fathers, Colonel Patrick Quinn, played by Dennis Leary. He gets sent to Stroopsdorf. The Dutch base Maggie has unofficially been running in an adorably millennial way. This is from the pilot, clip one. Clip 45:34 Today, the Commander-in-Chief's annual awards for installation excellence were announced. As interim commander, I am proud to say that in the category of European Support Base Parenthetical Small, we are this year's winners. Yes! As a reward, we have purchased state-of-the-art equipment to improve our cardiovascular health and emotional well-being. It's time To Silent Disco. Tara 46:01 So, this is what her father, who's already disgusted by this base, which is not a combat base, they only do uh cheese laundry and bowling. And he's, you know, mad that he's been sent there, 'cause it's not actually war related. And seeing a bunch of troops and the captain doing a silent disco outside does not change his view. A later episode revolves around the Dutch sport korfball. In which the objective is to throw a ball into a netless basket that is mounted on an eleven and a half foot pole. Each team is composed of four female players and four male players. The sport is, by the way, real. It was created in the Netherlands in nineteen oh two. The episode is about a Corfball grudge match, and this is when we find out Maggie is Brutally competitive dating back to her time uh on her high school basketball team, clip two Clip 46:53 Filming practice so we can do video review. Brilliant. Papa Docus, pause it there. Alright, can anyone tell me what the problem is? Anyone? Anyone? I'll jump in. The problem is you're all terrible. Makes me want to kill myself and then you. Major, move your feet. Sir, you run like a 14-year-old girl afraid to make her new boobies jiggle, okay? What the hell? Okay, sorry. That No, listen, first of all, don't apologize. She did say, sir And I'm loving this energy. I'm that. Who are you right now? I get it. You guys are all used to Captain Maggie. Everybody's friend, a real sweetie pie. But the old Captain Maggie can't come to the phone right now. She's dead This is the Rocket speaking. High school basketball legend. Due time All State would have been three, but I bit a girl. Tara 47:41 So obviously that's my girl, Captain Maggie Quinn from Going Dutch Sarah Sarah 47:48 Well, I had mostly veterans in my list, and let's start perfectly on brand for me with Harry Bush, uh, who I believe in the books is a Vietnam veteran, but in the TV series he is a Gulf War veteran out of the special forces. He re-upped after 9-11. If I recall correctly, this is used fairly elegantly in the show to give the character either insight into certain evidence and behaviors. or to let him talk to a wider variety of people who wouldn't ordinarily give LAPD the time of day, which should be everyone, but it's his show, so what can you do? And they will grudgingly deal with a fellow troop that they might not normally, but it's not hammered too hard and uh Titus Welliver does have that sort of I don't know, he has that like vibe, like he carries himself according to what you think that would be a special forces LAPD rogue dude. So that is my first one. Dave. Dave 48:49 My first one is Fry 's grandfather Enos Fry from the Futurama episode Roswell That Ends Well. It is a time travel episode where Fry ends up at the atomic tests in Roswell. And he is trying very hard to save his grandfather from killing himself in all sorts of ways, including a steak knife sliding off a diner table and almost nicking him in ads. So he is very protective. It ends with Fry stashing his grandfather away from anything that could hurt him in this old cabin, but the old cabin ends up being the iconic cabin that gets blown away and all the film footage of the atomic test. You know the one I'm talking about. Tara 49:33 Mm-hmm Dave 49:34 But earlier on we learn a lot about Enos. Let's listen. Clip 49:38 Eh, she sure is pretty. You oughta marry her and father some children right away. Yeah, folks say that, but did you ever get the feeling you're only gone with girls cause you're supposed to? What? Dave 49:53 So at the end of this episode, because of everything that happens, Fry ends up being his own grandfather. Tara 49:58 Mm-hmm. Dave 49:59 So for that, we salute Enos Fry. Tara 50:02 Back to me, my second troupe is Captain Doreen Lewis Sarah 50:02 Is it work? Tara 50:07 from Did Anyone Remember There Was a TV version of Private Benjamin? Because there was, and for some reason I watched it. Sarah 50:11 Yes, yes, I did Dave 50:12 Yeah. Yep Tara 50:15 Eileen Brennan originated the role in the movie and played it on the TV show as well. I don't know how I ever ended up watching this show in syndication when I looked it up. It was only three seasons and normally you have to have like a hundred episodes to be syndicated, but I definitely watch in syndication for whatever reason Sarah 50:29 Yeah, no, me too. Tara 50:30 Captain Lewis might have been my first exposure to like a TV nemesis, cause that was her relationship with the titular private Benjamin, like as opposed to you know Mr. Furley, who's sort of more of a foil. Like these two really hated each other, and I was there for it. So Captain Dorian Lewis, the great Eileen Brennan. Sarah. Sarah 50:50 Uh, my next one is Uncle Mike. From Primo with an honorable mention to Maya, who is written as a more nuanced army brat than you ever get in scripted material. Um, but Uncle Mike's over the top embrace of his own military service inevitably has hilarious results. I feel like he has eye black on, like with his pajamas at times, like I got detoured into first listening to the GameChamp Canon presentation. And then I was like, well, fine, I'm just gonna re-watch GameChamp. So preparing this segment of the extra credit for me wound up taking 40 minutes and I regret literally nothing. Primo forever. And like all the characters on this show, as Tara ably said in that uh in that GameChamp presentation. Mike presents initially as a 1. 5 dimension trope guy, but the writing maximizes the potential of every uncle's different deal. Um so they fall into three dimensions that way, especially in the Game Champ where he's like the revenge plot that has been brewing for 10 years and they're just Oh my god, the tr like it there's a trampoline involved, need I say more. So um, yes, Uncle Mike, we salute you. And Primo, go watch it. Dave 52:10 Oh god, that's such a good episode. Sarah 52:10 Dave. Tara 52:12 Mm-hmm. Dave 52:13 My second choice, a soldier. who brought down the Roman Republic as Titus Polo. In a sort of butterfly effect sort of way. He did some things that caused Caesar to rise to power and, you know, hid the gold horde that was Financing Caesar's army, I think that was one of them. I think he also did something with stopping somebody from getting to the Senate in time, which was going to do some legal mumbo jumbo. But Also a great character, you know. We love to hear him yell 13 and crack some skulls and fuck some chicks and all that kind of stuff. Tara 52:45 Totally. Dave 52:46 He's that kind of guy, played by the late Ray Stevenson, uh, in a role that seemed just made for him. Tara 52:52 Mm-hmm. Dave 52:52 Uh man, I kind of feel like I want to re-watch Rome now. Tara 52:54 I've suggested that, yeah. Dave 52:55 It's been so long. Yeah, it's been ages and ages. Tara 52:58 Mm-hmm Dave 52:59 I am uh gonna make him my second pick. Tara 53:02 Good pick. My final pick, I hope, is not also on Sarah's list. It is Henry Thomas, played by James Pickens Jr. from Beverly Hills 90210. When we meet him, he is the general manager of the Beverly Hills Beach Club and Brandon's boss, but before that he was a US Marine, and the discipline that engendered in him is still evident in the sharp pleat on his white beach club uniform pants, which Sarah 53:27 Oh, cas Tara 53:28 we're pretty sure he wears without underpants, 'cause we certainly never seen a line and we have looked. So, Henry, Sarah 53:34 No, we have Tara 53:35 sal saluting you and your butt in those pants. God bless. Dave 53:39 Before Sarah says her last one, do we want to guess? Because I have a guess. Tara 53:44 Uh, I have a guess Dave 53:46 Okay, what's yours? Tara 53:46 too. Catherine. Uh Catherine. Captain Jethro Gibbs or whatever is Dave 53:50 Oh, from Jag and at et al. Tara 53:52 Yes. Dave 53:52 or Sarah 53:53 Navily, I considered it. Dave 53:53 NCIS? Tara 53:54 Mm-hmm. Dave 53:54 I 'm gonna guess Ed from Space Show. Sarah 53:57 Oh wow, good guesses. Dave 53:59 No, okay. Sarah 54:00 And my long list included ex-Marine Elliot Stabler Mike Ermintrout, which apparently that character beat was Jonathan Baggs' Tara 54:05 Mm-hmm. Sarah 54:08 idea, and Fitzwallace from the West Wing, but my actual third Shout out to the friends Q earlier in the episode is Captain Herbert Sobel on Band of Brothers One of the all-time great performances from David Schwimmer as a common enemy against whom Easy Company is uniting. The real Herbert Sobel story took a bunch of pretty dark turns after he tried to take his life in nineteen seventy. He was obliged to spend his remaining days in veterans assisted living, and the end in 1987 was not pretty. Please fund veterans' affairs and their hospitals. Thank you. But the mini-series does an excellent variation on the cane mutiny job of not making Sobel too cartoonish And Schwimmer is, in my opinion, underrated for this particular brand of vanity-free portrayal. See also American Crime Story. I think he works as much as he wants to, but I re-watched Band of Brothers earlier this year and was struck by what a great performance and what texture there was in the writing and and uh portrayal. of uh that that nemesis for the rest of easy company. So well done, Ross. Dave. Dave 55:25 He was on a break from peace. Sarah 55:27 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Dave 55:31 I do have two honorable mentions. I feel like Thomas Magnum never gets picked for anything because me and Sarah have like a mutual save it for the other pack Tara 55:38 Yeah Sarah 55:39 Yay Dave 55:39 going. Sarah 55:39 , yes, yes Dave 55:40 Which I don't know how to break that because it's Tara 55:41 , Dave 55:42 like uh the polite chipmunks from the cartoons are like Tara 55:45 Mm-hmm. Sarah 55:45 Yeah, no, I didn't even write it down because it's like, well, Dave will take that. Dave 55:45 oh no no no after ya Yeah, so Thomas Magnum was one of them, obviously. And then my other one is going to be Yabushigi Sarah 55:51 Okay. Dave 55:54 from Shogun. Sarah 55:55 Oh, yes, great Dave 55:55 He is the right Tara 55:55 Ah, yeah. Dave 55:57 He's the yeah, the right Sarah 55:57 pick. Dave 55:58 hand man of Shogun. Tara 56:00 Yep. Dave 56:00 I forget his Sarah 56:01 Yeah Dave 56:01 uh tragic character, duplicitous character, has a Tara 56:02 Mm-hmm. Dave 56:05 uh bad end, but what a great uh storyline for that guy. I really enjoyed him. in the show. Sarah 56:11 Yeah, I think it's a good idea. Dave 56:12 My actual last choice is from the Venture Brothers. It is Shorelave. Second only to Brock Sampson for ass kickery, and Tara 56:23 Yep Dave 56:25 he is modeled off a G. I. Joe action figure, except he's gay. I just realized I have two gay soldiers in here. He's got a body like Arnold and a face like Denzel. Let's hear him order people around as the Sphinx base gets invaded. Clip 56:42 Really? Okay, where is everybody? Agent Sampson's driving a limo and everyone else is on Operation Double Dumbo Drop with Colonel Gather, sir! Great. Anywho, we have a level two siege at the front gates. You rookie! Stay here and watch the big man. Everyone else grab a weapon and a snack and follow me. Dave 57:00 What I didn't do is cut the two and a half minute clip of everybody discussing what a rusty venture is again, because I don't want to go through that with everybody and how upset they were about that. But if you want it, it's called Operation PROM. Tara 57:12 Mm-hmm. Dave 57:12 Look it up. I think it's season four. Tara 57:14 Yes. Dave 57:14 Well, thank you for your service, et cetera, et cetera. Tara 57:16 Thank you. Dave 57:19 Alright guys, that is it for another episode of Extra Extra Hot Great. We emerged from our caves to discuss the new Netflix animated show mating season before answering your burning ask EAHG questions like Were Ross and Rachel on a break? And what kind of smurf are you? Julie got in Mozart in the jungle for the tiny cameo cannon. We celebrated those who weren't quite the best and worst of the week and wrapped it all up with a look at TV's most important troops. Next up, it's the Burrows on EHG Prime. Remember. Clip 57:55 We're listening. Dave 57:58 I am David T. Cole and on behalf of Tara Ariano Tara 58:01 He does know what creme fraîche is. Dave 58:01 , Sarah D Bunting. Sarah 58:05 That guy sucks. Dave 58:07 Thanks for listening and we'll see you next time right here on Extra Extra Hot Great Clip 58:23 Man oh man, creepy Dave, you always deliver. This is Extra Hot Great Minis. Today's topic, my animated family. Today's Mini is an extra credit. Ch oh ding there we go. From Avril, Kelsey, and Trevor and Dick uh who have tasked us with building our fantasy animated sitcom family and they gave pretty specific instructions To wit, pull five family members, two parents, and three kids of any gender from any animated TV show to build what you consider the most entertaining group of characters and why. I will begin I have two gay dads, Aku from Samurai Jack, and Ray Gillette from Archer. I think they would have kind of a Cyrus and Uh what's his name? Bukatinsky relationship from Scandal. Keeps coming back. Yep. The kids would be Frankie Foster from Foster's Home, because I love her and her scary hair. Yep. Buttercup from the Powerpuff Girls. Adorable. And I kind of bent the rules a little bit and cast a pet instead of another kid, SpongeBob's pet snail Gary. The episode when Gary gets the ick or whatever it is is so funny to me Love it. And uh I just think that that combo would be completely insane and I kind of want this to happen now. Does anyone know any animators? Tara, what's yours? I also went with two gay parents, except mine are Marge Simpson and Mallory Archer. Because I feel like they have very different parenting styles, but both of them get results They each have at least one barely functioning child. I think the two of them could play off each other in an interesting way, especially if their children were all three of the Belcher kids from Bob's Burgers. Because those kids could use a little more um love from Marge in the form of tang and fluffer nutters and tough discipline for Mallory Archer to keep in line. It's high C. Okay, I'm sorry, high C. Hi C and Fluffernutter and Guns. That is my pick. Oh to me. To Jeff. Um I uh first do I get to be the dad of the family? Are you a cartoon? No. Okay, then it's not then it's not Lana from Archer. It's a mom. Um I will going far and wide for this one. The dad is the tick. Yeah. Because I love everything that the tick does. Uh the mom is Natasha Fatal for being um like hot and mysterious and Also cold when she needs to be cold because with the tick is your dad, you need a balance too. You need a yin and a yang. And then I would go with Phineas, but not Ferb from Phineas and Ferb. together. Uh Butthead but not Beavis because come on, really? You don't want Beavis as a kid. But Butthead is he's kind of he's kind of alright. And then the youngest son, I'm going really, really deep cut here with the oblongs Take the youngest son, just because his name is Milo, just like my real son. Aww. Hello. Dave cut through the treacle. Yes. Okay. The dad is Panthro from Thundercats. Good start. You laugh, but he's big and blue just like the tick. Oh, yeah, I got it Why Panthro? Because he's grounded, disciplined, and resilient like a dad should be. Oh sure. The mother, also much like yours, kind of sexy librarian kind of look. The Baroness from G. I. Joe. Okay. Because she's hot and I think that Panthro would like to have sex with her. The children. Number one Bam Bam from the Flintstones because he's a chip he would be a chip off Panthrose block. He's very strong. Sure. Number two, Blue from Foster's Home for Imaginary Children. Much like your pick. I find we're very similar here. Yeah. Much like What did you say? Butthead? Uh yeah. Butthead not Beavis? Yes. Will bring mayhem and randomness into the picture, so would blue. But not really with malice. That's right. And finally, my final kit is Scrappy Doo. What? This controversial. Defend it. Scrappy Doo is there to be physically and mentally tortured by the rest of his family. Custom pick for their skills, panthro for strength, baroness for ruthlessness, bam bam for just hitting things. Yes. Blue for imaginative scenarios. And the ability to conjure stuff. Sure. That's right. My family is a secret CIA program designed to breed the very best information extraction agents. And Scrappy Doo Is like that guy from seven who he keeps like barely alive for months. Oh my god. You know, with in the room full of full of Yes. I'm worried about your family. Not okay. The family that you come from. I'm worried about Tara.