Sharing Our Recollections About Memory Of A Killer

Sarah: [0:08] Printer. It's a long story. Sorry, mate. Dave: [0:16] Action packed, Pee-Wee. This is the Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 599 for the week of January 26, 2026. I am hitman keeping a low profile in a Porsche, David T. Cole. And I'm here with cagey bastard, Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah: [0:36] That's not a Porsche. That's my wife. Dave: [0:38] Or dead wife, Tara Ariano. Tara: [0:40] You just miss me so much. Dave: [0:41] And mobbed up pool cleaner, Dan Cassino. Dan: [0:44] Hey, I'm skimming here. Tara: [0:51] Welcome to Extra Hot Great for another week. Before we get into the episode, just a reminder, it is the end of the month. and that's when we remind you to join the Extra Hot Great Club. 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Tara: [4:11] We are here to talk about Memory of a Killer, in which Angelo Flannery, Patrick Dempsey, is a photocopier salesman and widower in Hudson Springs, New York, very attentive to his pregnant daughter, Maria Odea Rush, in the last weeks of her first pregnancy. Why would Fox make a show about a normie like him? Well, because Angelo is actually a hitman. But don't worry, he only kills bad guys, he says. Angelo is also a frequent visitor to his brother Michael, Richard Clarkin, who lives in a memory care residence due to early onset Alzheimer's and whose nurse tells Angelo Michael might not be in such a bad way now if he had sought help when he first started forgetting things like his ATM pin, sort of like how Angelo shortly afterward forgets the password on his alarm at his New York pied a terre and also forgets where he put his handgun. Uh-oh. The show is based on the movie adaptation, apparently of a Belgian novel called Dezach Alzheimer, which was the movie came out in 2003. Dave: [5:13] He's also one of the most feared bounty hunters in the galaxy. Tara: [5:16] Ed Whitmore, British screenwriter whose credits include Waking the Dead, co-created this version with Tracy Malone, who previously wrote on Silent Witness with Whitmore. The first two episodes have aired on Fox. That is all we got access to. Let's do the Chen check-in. Dan, should our listeners watch Memory of a Killer? Dan: [5:34] I'm going to say yes. Tara: [5:36] All right, Sarah. Yeah. Sarah: [5:37] Regardless of the dump in Bay Ridge shout out, that's a no for me, dog. Tara: [5:43] Dave. Dave: [5:43] I'm going to say it's a no on this side. Tara: [5:46] No, thank you for me as well. Let's get into it. Dan, you watched Patrick Dempsey being sexy and confident on Grey's Anatomy for many seasons. How unsettling is it for you to see him play a character who's doing the opposite of preserving life? Dan: [6:01] Honestly, he's giving very much the same vibes. Like he's the super arrogant guy who knows he's better than anyone else and gets himself in a lot of trouble because of it. It's not that much different, you know? And honestly, if at some point Meredith Grey had been killed off, I think he very well could have become this guy. If you told me McDreamy actually was an assassin in his spare time, I'd believe you. It totally fits. Tara: [6:22] What did you most like about the show? Well, let's start there because the rest of us were, as you just heard, against. Dan: [6:28] So look, this show is a lot. I mean, it reminded me a lot of the end of Goodfellas with Henry Hill's very, very bad day. Like every possible thing that could go wrong is going wrong at the exact same time. And so it's a lot happening. But it is a strong concept. I think it would be a stronger concept for a movie than it is for an ongoing TV show where we've got to stretch this out. It's networked for five years and 100 episodes, I guess. Tara: [6:50] Yeah. Dan: [6:50] And you see in the second episode, first episode, they hit the memory stuff really hard. In the second episode, they kind of forget that's happening because I think they realized they kept on hitting hard. this would be a three-hour show, and it'd be like the last season of Wallander, and nobody wants that. So I do think there's a lot going on. There's enough little intricacies going on. I do like that the family dynamics seem relatively realistic. I mean, on the bad dad, soccer dad continuum, he's on the soccer dad side, but also his son-in-law is a drip, and he doesn't like him. And I like the family relationships. Again, too much is going on. It's overstuffed, but I found it entertaining. The action sequences are pretty good. I like seeing McDreamy kill people. So it worked for me. Tara: [7:29] Dave, you are canonically the most forgetful member of this panel. What were your feelings about this representation of your lived experience of being someone who frequently leaves his gun in the fridge instead of the wall safe? Dave: [7:41] Right. Well, first of all, I don't recall being the most forgetful person on the panel. Tara: [7:45] Nice. Dave: [7:46] I was trying to recall one word for two days last week. I just couldn't, like, my brain wouldn't conjure up the word. And like two days later, I'm like, oh, yeah, rescind. That was the word I was looking for. I was like revoke. And I was like all over the place. is my brain spotting. Sarah: [8:00] It's so close to raisin. Coincidence? I don't think so. Dave: [8:05] So what was the question? I actually forgot. Tara: [8:10] Do you actually forget? You're doing a bit. Dave: [8:12] No, I know. Tara: [8:12] How did you feel about this representation of memory loss? Especially when one of the things that the nurse mentions is like, you know, forgetting where you left your keys. Sort of like how you've left your keys in our car overnight several times. Dave: [8:24] Ah. Look, I would have liked this show a lot better if it was just the hitman who did things, frankly. I don't think I need the Alzheimer's sweetener for this show. I didn't really find it particularly effective or really doing anything to the machinations of the hitman on his day. Like, literally in the first couple episodes, it really is just I lost my keys. I forgot the code to my apartment building. I know, yeah, I left my gun in the fridge. I got a cold gun now, which reminded me of Miami Blues, which made me just want to watch Miami Blues again. I just found the whole Trixie conceit kind of a non-value add. I just didn't really, that part didn't grab me. So when it came to that, especially when he's visiting his brother for his one-sided chats, I'm like, all right, I don't really need this. This is just therapy without the therapist. It's those scenes. And you know how I hate that. Tara: [9:18] Yeah. Dave: [9:19] But I liked him. I like the idea of him being sort of a hit man and being cold as ice, although I don't know if the portrayal really hit that, but I was excited for that part of it. Didn't quite deliver. Tara: [9:30] Yeah. In terms of the Trixie part, I thought this was going to be more of like a Mr. Robot situation where we can't trust the narrative as it's portrayed. Dave: [9:39] Yeah. Tara: [9:39] And there is a little of that. But Sarah, as someone who watched Mr. Robot a lot, could this one have gone further with a POV character whose vision of reality may be unreliable for the audience? Sarah: [9:50] In theory, yes. In practice, you're on a network. And I think that that constrains you. Groundhog Day of the Jackal or Hour of the Jackal. Dave: [10:01] Like 30 days of the condor. Sarah: [10:03] Yeah. Like, I mean, this is the issue I think in chief is that it's on a network, but at the same time, like you look at the cast, like Peter Gadio from Yellowjackets, Gina Torres shows up eventually, Michael Imperioli, food, food, food guy. They have all the tools, I think, but I agree that it didn't necessarily need the Alzheimer's aspect. I think it probably should have been a feature so i agree with that too but the pushing the sort of reliability of the narrator would have been at least a little bit fresh or not quite so noted by the network and that's not what we got we got these like lingering shots of like with like psycho strings when he's paused over the last three numbers of his pin and it's like we already looked the show up. We fucking get it. Like, get on with it. Get to the food, food, food factory. Dan: [11:03] I gotta say, what was really effective for me about this was, is the This is essentially a superhero narrative. He's got a secret identity and he's not able to maintain it. And of course, as he's losing his mind, he's going to be less able to maintain that secret identity. And it's more like superhero narratives that I think that element of it really worked as he's like frantically trying to, you know, keep all his, you know, juggle everything, keep all his balls in the air. And it's obviously eventually not going to work. And that's, you know, it's very John Wick-y, you know, that like there's this somehow infrastructure for super assassins all over the place and middle-aged guys are doing it. But, you know, look, there's a place for John Wickiness, and I'm a little tired of that. But, you know, again, I like the actor, so it worked out for me. Dave: [11:43] I said to Tara during the time, especially because the episodes feature a lot, him taking his shitty little domestic car out to the country to his totally not CG abandoned gas station out in the sticks. And then he trades it in for his Killmobile, which is his Porsche. and that whole thing just made me think like this could have been like one of those dark knight returns i'm old batman stories where it's just batman going senile and he has to go in and out of his back gave and get the batmobile and then he like forgets which super villain he's supposed to pummel his head in it just felt like that i was like i think i would have watched the gotham version of this but i don't want to watch the dreamy version yeah. Sarah: [12:25] I mean i like that idea but But alas, this is what we have. And I also was not a Grey's Watcher, have never been, and I'm not especially invested in Dempsey. Like, he doesn't do it for me. Imperioli would be higher up on the list for me, frankly. I like Big Shnaz. Dave: [12:43] Michael Imperioli plays like a mid-level mob boss, it feels like. Tara: [12:47] He's like his assignment editor. Dave: [12:50] Yeah. Sarah: [12:50] Yeah. Dave: [12:51] And... Sarah: [12:51] Mm-hmm. Dave: [12:52] He's obviously doing well. He is bumping off rival mob bosses. So he's at that level of decision making. So he's up there. Why is a mob boss do all the mob bossing only to spend your time cooking in a kitchen? Tara: [13:07] Because it's your joy. Dan: [13:09] Dave, have you seen Goodfellas? You got to slice the garlic the right way. Dave: [13:13] I know how to slice the garlic, Dan. Sarah: [13:15] Oh, an aristocrat. Tara: [13:18] Yeah, I was thrown by Patrick Dempsey, Irish-American, playing Angelo, and Michael Imperioli, Italian-American, playing Dutch. Dave: [13:27] It's a rich tapestry, Tara. Tara: [13:29] I guess. Can we agree, though, that ruining his surprise party like Angelo does in the second episode is one of the worst offenses against a social contract that a person can commit? Dan: [13:38] Dick move, but also these people are all heavily armed. Don't surprise heavily armed people in general. I think it's a bad thing to throw your mom or father a surprise party. Dave: [13:48] But if you're having a surprise party in a restaurant, you definitely have backdoor access, and that's where you tell all your guests to come in through the alley on the side street so that you don't meet the birthday boy in front of the restaurant. Tara: [14:00] True. Dan: [14:01] Now, I want to say one thing this show did that made me feel very seen was the explanation of how grants work because his son-in-law, his loser son-in-law gets a grant for $3,000 and he's looking at his daughter like, really this loser? And he said, oh good, you can buy diapers. And he's like, no, I can't use it. And I've just like, I've been there where it's like, oh, I got a $1.5 million grant. They go, wow, what are you going to buy? I'm like, I'm going to pay teaching assistants. I don't actually get the money. I'm sorry. So I was happy to see representation for people who get grants. Tara: [14:30] That feels like a fine place to end. Sure. Dave: [14:33] Just as an aside, which alternate of my titles would you prefer for this show? Low Potential, The Hitman Who Couldn't Remember, Goat, Greatest of Alzheimer's Trigger Men, or finally, The Afternoon of the Jackal? Question mark. Tara: [14:51] I like Goat. Dan: [14:53] How about The Sundowning of the Jackal? Tara: [14:55] Yes! Sarah: [14:55] There it is. Dave: [14:56] Workshop. Tara: [14:57] Workshop. Tara: [15:02] got a lot of shows it's a great time for shows it's back. Dave: [15:08] We rotate them it is all right uh it is time for around the dial as you just heard our first stop as always to tell us about what she's watching on tv star hello. Tara: [15:17] I watched the beauty and of all of the ryan murphy shows i I've ever watched. I think this is the one I can describe most succinctly. There is a virus that turns people hot and then makes them blow up. There's for real, that's what it's about. Dave: [15:33] Really? Wait, how do they blow up? Tara: [15:35] Their temperature rises and they can't regulate it. They're in the in the cold open. We see Bella Hadid not playing herself, but playing a model, like going ham in a French restaurant, just sucking down as much water as she can. And then she runs out into the street and she blows up. Dave: [15:50] But like does she explode or does she like inflate like thunder from big trouble little shine. Tara: [15:55] No she i think gibbets blows apart in lots of little pieces all right when they reassemble them kind of in the morgue they're still steaming because she's still that hot. Dave: [16:05] Cut it with the social commentary ew. Tara: [16:08] It's also a sexually transmitted virus so if you have sex with someone who is infected or a carrier it also turns you hot but then you might explode later Yeah. Dave: [16:20] But won't the hot people just stick to the hot people after they turn hot? Tara: [16:24] Well, they all become models, so kind of. Dave: [16:26] Yeah. Tara: [16:26] Anyway. Dave: [16:27] I'm just saying, how does a lonely nerd get beautified in this situation? Tara: [16:31] That's what happens in the pilot. That's truly what happens. There's an incel. Dave: [16:34] Okay, but wait. How many characters in the beauty are food objects in this universe? That's the question I want to ask here. I assume this is a food sausage party crossover. Tara: [16:43] No, I wish. So what we don't know at this point, there's only been three episodes, is how the virus got started, but based on trailers for the season, it seems like a shot, like an injection is involved and that a character played by Ashton Kutcher is behind it, which... his curious time and given that the other recent horror story about taking a shortcut to hotness that turns out to be terrible actually was The Substance starring his ex-wife Demi Moore. But at this point in culture, years into the existence of Ozempic and other weight loss drugs, it's not that hard to untangle the metaphor of a shot that can make you conform to prevailing beauty standards, but that does not cure the insecurities that made you take it in the first place. But because it is coming from Ryan Murphy... The way it read to me was someone might look hot, but they could still be unattractive on the inside. And for those people who came by their hotness, the easy way, there can be no peace. So anyway. Dave: [17:37] Wow. Tara: [17:37] Feels like American Horror Story colon hot virus. And only you know whether that is something you care to see or not. I tapped out on grotesquerie, which is like another version of American Horror Story to me after less than two episodes. Dave: [17:49] Is that the one where they're hot, but they implode? Tara: [17:51] No. So far, this is more watchable than that than grotesquerie was. You can also just watch the American Horror Stories episode Tapeworm from 2023 to get the same basic concept delivered in under an hour. Not for me. Dan: [18:05] I would also say you could just read the comic book, which is like five issues long. It'll take you 20 minutes. Tara: [18:09] Oh, it's based on a comic book? I didn't even know that. Dan: [18:11] It's based on a comic book. Tara: [18:11] All right. Great. Dave: [18:12] Or you can watch that one episode of The Twilight Zone. Knock it out in half an hour. Tara: [18:15] Sure. For my plug, I'm going to recommend Community Aid Network in Minnesota. They do mutual aid work in the city, in Minneapolis and elsewhere, much like the group that I work with here. And just because Greg Bovino is leaving does not mean the problems don't persist. So we'll link you that in the show notes if you want to support their work. Dave: [18:38] All right, Dan, what do you got for us? Dan: [18:40] All right. So first of all, I'll do a quick British cozy mystery update. I'm the one here who watches these. So a couple of these real quick. Number one, Shetland. We are now in series 11. This is the third series of the Agatha Raisin era after the original guy left. and they brought Agatha Raisin in to be the new detective. We still have not seen any of the ponies. How do you have a show set in Shetland with no ponies, 11 series, we're still holding out? Sarah: [19:00] That is so funny. Dave: [19:01] It took Nashville 911 three episodes to get to the hot chicken crisis. Tara: [19:05] That's true, it did. Dave: [19:06] They know what they're doing. Dan: [19:08] Midsummer Murders is now in series 26. It has jumped the shark about 15 years ago, but they are still making them. And I choose to believe that they are now being as intentionally ridiculous as possible. Series 26, episode three has a Bitcoin-browing godly buzzard killed by a cuckoo clock with a spring wound to a murderous degree. Tara: [19:28] Dan, stop it. They have to know what they're doing. Dave: [19:32] Yeah. Dan: [19:32] You know what you're getting. You know, the initial brief from Midsummer Murders, like, what if the detective is middle-aged and he's horny? And that's, you know, there's some room for that, but it's been 25 years. They've replaced the guy, I think, twice now. If you like it, you like it. Agatha Christie's Seven Dials is on Netflix. We got the Agatha Christie license. It is on Netflix. They brought in the former showroom of Doctor Who to do Agatha Christie. So it got real dumb. The outfits aren't even that great. And the lead, Mia Sasha McKenna Bruce, you'll be surprised to know she's British aristocracy, has the most Instagram face I've ever seen. Like, this is a woman who's been on Instagram. You cannot cast her in the 30s. Her outfits weren't even good. I don't know what the point is. Dan: [20:12] However, the real thing that gave me joy over the holiday break was a show called Anatomy of a Moment. This stars the professor from Money Heist as Adolfo Suarez. And this is about the 1981 coup that ended Franco's rule in Spain. So I had to fly to Spain to watch it. It's very, very well done. It's winning tons of awards. I imagine it'll be available on an American stream platform in an English before too long. If this is not available, I can recommend the same creators who have another award-winning series called The Plague or La Peste. Two scenes of this from 2018. BBC did an English translation of it, so you can actually get it. Or some enterprising folks have put it online and you can find it on YouTube. This is a very cool show. It's set in 1580 Seville. So Seville is where all of the wealth in the New World is coming into Spain. So it's economically really, really important. And they discovered that the Black Death is starting up there. And so, of course, no one actually wants to shut it down because that would be a lot of money if they actually shut down Seville. So they're going to keep it contained, we promise. And, you know, of course, if you know Spanish history, that's not going to happen. Then, of course, we've got a guy who has to sneak into Seville in order to find somebody else in order to find a child. And what's great about it is that that's your plot going into it. And that gets resolved in like the first episode. It then moves on to something completely different. Gets very strong name of the Rose vibes. Great production design. It doesn't go where you expect. And as all these great little processing details about the largely orphan based economy of Seville in the 16th century. Very cool. Two seasons you can watch on YouTube. Dave: [21:38] Any question about that? Any tightly wound cuckoo clocks in the plague? Dan: [21:42] No, I will say there is one moment in the first episode that made me like literally gasp. Like, oh, my, I cannot believe they they're doing that. Holy. Yeah. So there is some. Sex position, very Game of Thrones-inspired, and some shocking acts of violence in there. For my plug, I do have a new book out. My new book's called Bitcoin Bros, Cryptocurrency Masculinity and the Future of Men, out from Bloomsbury. This is the first book I've ever written where the publisher thinks like normies are going to want to read this one. I don't see it, but if I knew it was sold, I probably would have larger royalty checks. So it's very good. I'm proud of it. It is out at all good booksellers now. Dave: [22:20] I just want to say I pitched Dan for the title. He rejected it, but it was called Bitcoins Put Hair on Your Chest. But he said no. Tara: [22:27] Bitcoin, of course, if you ask Amy Sugarman from 90210G, is the money that's not money. Dave: [22:33] It's not right. All right, Sarah, what do you got? Sarah: [22:38] Disreputable booksellers, Airdy Bunting here. This docuseries, Wrestlers, that I'm talking about today came out on Netflix in 2023. I really do not know how I miss talking about it at the time. I am this podcast's leading Greg Whiteley completist. Whiteley is, of course, the creative mind behind the Last Chance U franchises, as well as Cheers, About Witch, The Less, etc. As far as wrestlers goes, if you liked the processier bits of Glow or The Wrestler starring Mickey Rourke, you will like this. If you like Whiteley's way of casting lesser-known sports teams as paths to privilege for some and found families for others, But also it's commentary on how many people rely on a given sport or team to lift them or keep the lights on. This is also that. wrestlers is about a crossroads for ovw or ohio valley wrestling a third tier i guess professional wrestling outfit that has broken a number of wrestlers who are now household names including the miz and john cena and has functioned as a minor league of sorts to wwe for years when viewers joined the fray two new co-owners have teamed up with current quote showrunner and former wrestler Al Snow. Sarah: [23:48] With an eye to getting OVW out of the red by the end of a summer of live touring. That is the overarching story of the season. Along the way, there's mother-daughter shit getting worked out in the ring. There's learning how to direct a segment during a live show when literally all of your communication to the stage has gone out. And which level of spray tan is ideal. Nalibu Double Dark is evidently a shade too far. Like previous Whiteley Projects, wrestlers is informative. It has texture. It doesn't condescend to working class people. It does have somewhat predictable rhythms and certain buried leads are easily uncovered if you've ever seen a documentary before, but it's well-made. And if you want to learn more about props craft, i.e. when a table can't be credibly scored to break in the ring properly and you have to rewrite the entire scene, wrestlers is solid. Speaking of solid, supporting Minneapolis bookshops is a solid thing to do at this time in our nation's and globe's history. There will be a link in the show notes from minneapolis.org. And Exhibit B has a winter sale on Compendia and Crime Wars, all 20% off through Valentine's Day. The cart does the math. Exhibitbbooks.com. Dave: [25:05] All right, I got one more for you. John Sick. Tara: [25:08] Nice. Dave: [25:09] Okay. Here's what's coming up on the Extra Hot Great Cinematic Universe in the week ahead this Friday on Extra Extra Hot Great for club members. We'll be talking about Wonder Man, as Tara said. Go to the club page. That is extrahotgreat.com slash club for more information and to sign up and then come back here next week. One week's time, ESG Prime. We'll be talking about the Muppet Show anniversary special with Adam Grosworth. Of course it's Adam Grosworth. So one week's time, be here or regret it. Dave: [25:47] It is time for the Extra Hot Great Canon presenting this week. It's Emily May, who's bringing us Crash Landing on You, Season 1, Episode 12. Hi, Extra Hot Great. To catch you up on the premise of the series, we first meet Yoon. Tara: [32:03] What's missing the most in their own lives. And, minor spoiler alert, while their love remains largely unrequited in the end, the series sticks the landing with a long view on what, unlikely tornado-driven course to crash land its way into the cannon. Thank you. Thank you, Emily May. Dan, you chose this from the list of submissions. Please start us off. Dan: [32:38] Sure. So I was excited to look for a show. I had no idea what I was getting in for. And there's some elements to this show I really liked. So I appreciate the presentation, putting this in context. And the parts of the show I really liked were when they took us into North Korea and we saw kind of the community building aspects of North Korea. I thought that was very sweet. I thought that was interesting. I liked that part. And the whole time I'm watching it, I thought, I think I would have liked this episode better if we were seeing what was happening in North Korea, like seeing the capitalists in North Korea rather than the reverse. There's a subgenre of books about the end of Eastern Europe, the end of communist Eastern Europe. Jenny Erpenbeck's written good books on this, where you bring people from these very closed societies into capital societies, and they are astounded by the glamour and the plenty. But also, you know, Jenny Erpenbeck talks about, oh, she saw a homeless person first time and is baffled by the idea of like, wait, why is anyone helping this person? What the hell is wrong with you people? Why are you not human? What's going on? So I think there's a lot of potential there to explore what's going on. And unfortunately, this episode was doing the opposite, where we were getting what was happening in South Korea. And it wasn't played for anything but laughs, really. I mean, the idea of everyone just comes to South Korea and they just start playing video games. And I guess being better than I am at multiplayer games immediately when they get to South Korea. because I'm getting my butt kicked in Street Fighter bites, 12-year-old South Koreans. Apparently, this is just in the water. Anyone who shows up can do this. Dan: [34:02] And I think that the fact we're looking at that rather than the reverse, I think, harmed a little bit for me. It also had a lot of tonal shifts that I really normally associate with French media or Indian media, where they're doing everything. We've got espionage, we've got melodrama, we've got comedy. We're doing vaudeville over here. They're just doing everything. Dan: [34:20] That's very different than what we get in American shows, where it really is just one genre. I can appreciate it, but I don't think it worked together as well as I would have liked. I thought the comedy bits largely fell flat. I mean, it just seemed like we were extending reality past where I thought it was going to go. And I understand in a romance novel, The idea that we showed these are star-crossed lovers, they were fated together, they met years ago without knowing it, that that's a reveal that was meaningful for people who have been watching the whole series. But for just coming into that, I was rolling my eyes like, really? Okay, come on. So maybe I'm not the best person to judge this. This is not my genre. This is not the whole format of TV I'm familiar with. But I wasn't terribly impressed by it. Tara: [34:59] I'll go next. I agree. And we accidentally, my accident, my mistake, watched the wrong episode first. So we watched the second episode, which is more of, Dan, what you're saying you wish you had seen here, which is Sari in North Korea, like discovering what life is like there, being amazed, like doesn't have a stove, doesn't have the internet, doesn't, you know, all the things that he is lacking that she takes for granted in South Korea. Dave: [35:25] The kimchi cellar. Tara: [35:27] The kimchi cellar, which turns out to be a plot point we see in episode 12. I might have been closer to voting it in if Emily May had bitched episode two. The comedy is too gentle for my preferences. And when Emily May says that the leads have amazing chemistry, it's like, I don't really see it in either of. Tara: [35:47] These episodes, to be honest. Tara: [35:49] And all of the times that we step away from the main story to deal with this other guy in North Korea, the Alberto, the con man or all the business with her family. It's like, it's just too much. The focus is so scattered that there's nothing to land on. And then when you consider that the episodes are also an hour and a half, it's like, surely you could have excised one of these storylines. It is, to me, it is really trying to do too much. And I also have to say, the look of it is so unappealing the lighting of it it looks like it's a detergent commercial like it's so it's so bright and strange the exception being again in episode 2 when we were in the village where it seemed like as if those are real places that people really live but every time we're in you know in Ceri's story or in her apartment in the second episode, it just feels, it looks like a commercial. So this is my first contact with a K-drama. The only other Korean show that we've watched of this ilk was probably Chicken Nugget, which was much, much more straight ahead. It wasn't a drama. It was just, you know, a goofy sci-fi comedy. I don't see what Emily May is seeing here personally. Dan: [37:00] Tara, one quick question. So one thing I found out, I looked up the show a little bit, And I saw that this show was denounced by the governments of both South Korea and North Korea. And I was surprised, like, this thing, this is what you're upset about? Dave: [37:12] No, no, no, Dan. This is what we're unified on. Tara: [37:17] But that to me feels like if the governments of Canada and the U.S. both came out against When Calls the Heart. It's like, this is such a soft target. Just leave people be. Anyway, Dave. Dave: [37:30] We've got the greatest minds in both our countries trying to figure out when the hell, when Cold the Heart takes place. And we haven't been able to do it. Yeah, I agree. I found this overstuffed. And the parts that were supposed to be the K-dramaist, the, you know, will they, won't they star-crossed lovers on either side of a border stuff didn't really click for me. I did also enjoy the second episode much more than the 12th episode for the reasons why, which is I love just being plopped into a small corner of a universe I don't know. And then you really just get into how these people live. Tara: [38:06] She's even learning like new slang and stuff that's part of sort of the transformative aspect of her story. Like all of that is more interesting to me. Sorry, go ahead. Dave: [38:14] And then you can see subtitles in Korean during while they're talking about Korean, and those are North Korean idioms that are being translated for a South Korean audience, which I thought was also interesting. Interesting that there was that many of them because there was quite a few in the second episode anyways. Dave: [38:28] If Memories of a Killer was a superhero origin story, this is another princess in troubled time story. You know, her father's kingdom has fallen. She now is forced to live in enemy territory and she falls in love with the prince of the evil kingdom and then finally brings them over. And it's like, yeah, it's a double fish out of water thing, but it's also just Crocodile Dundee 1 and Crocodile Dundee 2. There was little parts that I enjoyed here and there. To extend that metaphor, the court gestures, the North Korean soldiers that are sort of attached to the lead, you know, they have cute little moments in 12, but they all take too long and they're all very broad. One guy accidentally falls into a valet chicken delivery job. One guy, the funniest part is the one really good looking North Korean soldier is outside in his new South Korean duds. And there's all these people coming up to him, giving him their business cards, saying they're from the agency. And he's freaking out, not knowing that they're from model agencies. And he's just that good looking. They want to hire him off the streets. A couple of cute moments like that. But 90 plus minutes for this. No, did not need that amount of time. So it was just like too much. they were doing too much and there was too much of it so yeah. Sarah: [39:46] Yeah, I think this needed to either be a feature that sort of focused a little more tightly for two hours or an hour and 45 minutes on let's just play this out. What would actually happen if this happened? Or given that it was like way too many storylines for even this runtime, which if they had cut out the quote comedy bits, maybe you could get that under control. But like this had the vibe. And honestly, as Tara mentioned, the look of a soap opera just like really overlit. It looked like some things were expensive. Some things were really cheap looking. The humor is like not really their strength, I would say. Sarah: [40:27] Soap operas, I mean. And then they try it and you're like, all right, whatever. But you're just like filling time in the, let's say, Thursday episodes that you can get to the cliffhanger. And so we have to do some about someone's wedding planning. Like if you're familiar with daytime drama in the States, you've seen this a million times. I assume it's still happening on General Hospital, like literally right now as we're recording this. But for this, which is supposed to like, it's a romantic comedy drama, like because of the romantic, which is not entirely convincing to me either chemistry wise and the comedy, which was so gentle as to be flavorless, as Tara said, then you're like having to get through all of that to get to the drama, which could have been interesting. But I think this is just the like grab bag nature of this kind of show. And it's not really necessarily fair to be like, why isn't this counterpart in Korea? But why isn't this counterpart in Korea? I would wash the shit out of that. And I know Dave would too. So I enjoyed the presentation and I think maybe if we'd watched from the beginning, we'd be more pro, but I, for one, just kind of didn't really understand what anyone was doing here. Dave: [41:41] Yeah i mean speaking to your point of it being a feature this literally could have been crocodile dundee one and two the first half of this is her in north korea and then right at the end just like guess what we're going to seoul credits yeah and then we can have a crashing into you part two to. Tara: [41:59] Go back to your princess analogy the the comedy guys It's sort of like Snow White and the five North. Dave: [42:05] Korean soldiers. Tara: [42:08] There's that too. Sarah: [42:10] Yeah. Like I think one of them actually says Beru at one point and it's like, well, that's the level that you're operating on. It's not fair to assess it on other levels of things that it isn't. But alas, here we all are about to vote. Dave: [42:24] Question for the meat eaters here. Big plate of Korean fried chicken in front of you right now. How hard are you going to town? Tara: [42:30] Oh, that fried chicken looked really good. I would eat that. Sarah: [42:34] It did. Dan: [42:35] We go to H Mart to get that stuff all the time. It's fantastic. Dave: [42:38] All right. Let's put this to the official vote. Dan Casino, what say you? Kenan worthy or not? Dan: [42:42] I very much appreciate the presentation. I like that I was exposed to something different, but I have to go no on that dog. Dave: [42:47] All right. Tara, you know, on that K dog. Tara: [42:52] I agree with Dan all the way down the line. But thank you for the submission, Emily May. Dave: [42:57] Sarity Bunting. Sarah: [42:59] Good presentation. as everybody said, and interesting to think about. But alas, no from me. Dave: [43:05] And I'm going to say no, too. So unfortunately, that means crash landing on you. Season one, episode 12. You are hereby not inducted into the Extra Hot Great Cannon. Dave: [43:25] love a winner. Yep. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. All right. It is time for winner and loser of the week. Sarah has this week's winner. Sarah: [43:35] I do. It's Jordan Belfort, who's getting a docuseries, The Real Wolf of Wall Street, Paramount Plus. That movie was or felt real long as it is. So didn't he already have a docudrama of docuseries length? and also guess paramount plus isn't as worried that belfort is going to sue them as they are that the ramsey family will because that project is still drifting around turnaround somewhere, interesting yeah i. Dave: [44:07] Don't know if these people had the courage of their convictions that would be a show but an actual wolf running. Tara: [44:12] Around wall street. Dave: [44:13] All right tara who is our loser of the week. Tara: [44:16] Michael Rapaport he was spoiler bounced from the traitors I unfortunately had to tell my sister who was really enjoying him on that show that he's a bad person in real life but anyway now he is threatening to skip the season four reunion and I understand the impulse you don't think you're going to get a fair shake because you probably won't but on the other hand if you sign up to do the show you sign up to do the show and the reunion is part of it and if you don't you're just gonna look like a little bitch so keep that in mind michael rapaport before you piss away what tiny amount Tara: [44:51] of public goodwill there still is for you all. Dave: [44:54] Right well speaking about pissing away goodwill do you know what time it is. Tara: [44:58] And looking like a little bitch it's game time. Dave: [45:01] It's non-regulation dan casino led. Tara: [45:03] Game time. Dan: [45:17] Thank you all for having me. And of course, when I'm coming and visiting, you know, you have to bring a host present. My present, of course, is a game that we, so Dave can play, because Dave is very good at these things. He doesn't get to show off as much. Today we're going to play a game called Some Bangers All Mash. And this is a before and after style game. The first round, you'll be guessing the name of a mashed up TV show from description of the show, before and after style. To make it a little bit easier, You're at least one of the shows in the mashup will have premiered in 2024, 2025, or 2026. And the order of the clue will tip you off as to the order of the mashed up title. You'll get two points for a correct answer or one point after a clue, and you get just one stab at it, Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah: [45:57] Thank you, sir. Dan: [45:59] Could we have picky? Give us an order, please. Dave: [46:02] Nope. Nope. Tara: [46:06] We will start with Sarah. Dave: [46:07] I really got to move that one out of the way, which I have done. Okay. Here we go. Dan: [46:11] All right. Let's go with Sarah Dave Tara. All right. So our first question will be for Sarah. An underfunded emergency room faces influx of patients after a series of incidents involving a demonic force that preys on children. So what is the mashed up title we're talking about here? Sarah: [46:31] The Pit. Welcome to Derry. Dave: [46:33] Oh, yes. Tara: [46:34] Nice. Dan: [46:36] Absolutely. The Pit. Welcome to Derry. All right, Dave. A surgeon who really should not be doing neck surgery on anybody winds up in the limelight when he's tasked with treating the ailing President Garfield. Dave: [46:50] Oh, um, what was that called? It's the thing. I think this is the Joshua Jackson. Here's a podcast. Now make a TV show thing out of it. I think. Is it Dr. Death by Lightning? Yes. Sarah: [47:06] Well done. Tara: [47:07] That was about season two. The one with not Joshua Jackson. Thank you. You actually watched. Dave: [47:11] Yeah, I did. Yep. Dan: [47:13] Tara. Tara: [47:13] Yes. Dan: [47:14] An autistic man might be a great surgeon, but he is not at all ready for the medical emergencies and interpersonal shenanigans awaiting him as a ship's doctor on a luxury cruise ship. Tara: [47:23] The Good Doctor Odyssey. Dan: [47:26] All right. We got the easy ones out of the way. Now let's get to the real stuff. Dave: [47:29] Great. Dan: [47:30] Back to Sarah. A group of colorful, friendly young horses are unexpectedly thrust into the role of CIA operatives in Cold War era Moscow. CIA operatives? Colorful, friendly young horses thrust into the role of CIA operatives in Cold War Moscow. Sarah: [47:47] Oh, God. my little I need a hint I think because I'm not sure about the second part. Dan: [47:55] Would star Amelia Clark and a whole bunch of voice actors including Nancy Cartwright. Sarah: [48:04] My Little Pone Lamette? I don't know what this is. I'm sorry. Dan: [48:10] Dave, you want to get ghost points? Dave: [48:11] Yeah, this is My Little Pony's Friendship is Magic. Dan: [48:15] Well, My Little Pony's, yeah, Friendship is Magic are My Little Pony's Persons of No Interest. Dave: [48:18] The whole lesson we learned for all those shows. Dan: [48:21] Exactly right, yes. Sarah: [48:22] I got it seconds after I gave up. Dan: [48:25] All right, Dave, this one's for you. In yet another Sherlock Holmes riff, a doctor comes to believe that the Napoleon of crime may still be alive and running a biker gang in California's Central Valley. One of these is a very, very recent TV show. Dave: [48:43] Oh, right. Yeah, I forgot we were dealing with that. Can you read it again, please? Dan: [48:47] Sure. In yet another Sherlock Holmes riff, a doctor comes to believe that the Napoleon of crime may still be alive and running a biker gang in California's Central Valley. Dave: [48:57] Uh i can't remember what it's not book it bookish that doesn't feel right he's not a doctor it's right there in the name dave book doctorish, health man i'm gonna need a hint i think all. Dan: [49:15] Right so this show would star morris chestnut and charlie hunnam. Dave: [49:20] Okay, I had the second part, Sons of Anarchy. Dan: [49:24] Well, it is a Sherlock Holmes riff. Dave: [49:25] Yeah. I don't know what this first show is. I'm just going to say Dr. Watts, Sons of Anarchy. Tara: [49:34] So close. Dan: [49:36] Oh, so close, Dave. The new Sherlock Holmes riff starring Morris Chestnut is just Watson. So it's Watts, Sons of Anarchy. Dave: [49:43] Is that British or American? Tara: [49:44] It's American. Dan: [49:45] That's American. Tara: [49:46] It's on CBS, but it's on the bubble. It has not been renewed. Dave: [49:48] Is this a elementary universe? Tara: [49:52] I don't think so. Dan: [49:53] Sherlock Holmes is, no, it's Sherlock Holmes was real. He was dead. And Watson has resumed his medical practice and thinks Moriarty is still alive. Dave: [50:00] Okay. Dan: [50:01] Rattara. Tara: [50:01] Yes. Dan: [50:02] This is a TV adaptation of a frequently banned Judy Blume novel about two young athletes falling in love after one of them relocates to a small town in Colorado. Tara: [50:13] Foreverwood. Dan: [50:14] Forever and Everwood. Dave: [50:16] How come you didn't pick the guy who lives forever forever, isn't it? Sarah: [50:23] Foreverwood was actually the name of the series finale episode. Dave: [50:26] Horatio Hombrelor? Tara: [50:27] Yes, because it did not premiere in 2024, 2025, or 2026. Dave: [50:32] Keep on forgetting about that. All right, committing that to memory. Continue, Dan. Sorry. Dan: [50:35] For Sarah, a Pennsylvania law professor helps her students plot the kidnapping of a rogue security android who would really rather be left alone to watch his shows. Sarah: [50:46] How to get away with Murderbot? Dan: [50:49] How to get away with murder bot, how to get away with murder, and murder bot. For Dave, this is my boss, Riri Williams. She's built herself a suit of power arm, became a superhero in Chicago. She's gorgeous. This is Mr. Williams, a self-made billionaire. He's quite a guy. By the way, my name is Max. I take care of them, which ain't easy, because their hobby is murder. Dave: [51:09] Nice. Iron heart to heart. Sarah: [51:13] That's great. Dave: [51:14] Yeah. I can see the credits right now. And right at the end, she flies through the heart. Tara: [51:19] We are all tied up. Dave: [51:20] We are. Dan: [51:21] All right, Katara. An annoying character winds up in prison with a colorful cast of characters after his life is turned upside down when his chaotic brother shows up and threatens a successful New York City restaurant. Tara: [51:36] Orange is the New Black Rabbit? Is that what that was called? Yay! Sarah: [51:41] Wow, nice poll. Yeah, Black Rabbit. Dan: [51:43] It's that show with Jude Law. Tara: [51:45] Yeah, we did not watch it. Dan: [51:47] All right. For Sarah. This is a neo-noir about a bookseller who gets himself in trouble after publishing an expose about the powerful Crawley family. Remember, why these shows is recent. Sarah: [51:59] Yeah about the powerful Crawley family oh. Dave: [52:04] Fuck me what was that. Sarah: [52:05] Oh god uh there. Dan: [52:11] Is a hint available if you need it. Sarah: [52:12] Uh yeah I'm confused about how to like I'm confused so I need a hint Ethan. Dan: [52:21] Hawke and Hugh Bonneville. Sarah: [52:23] Oh my god just that brings me to not an unhappy Abbey place. Low Downton Abbey. Dan: [52:34] The Low Downton Abbey for one. Oh, Dave, I picky his smile to patio. Okay, good. Because this is some real Starlog Jam content. Dave: [52:45] Okay, great. Dan: [52:46] A once promising quarterback who washed out gets a second chance when he uses makeup to disguise his real identity, the super-powered alien prince E-Hawk of the planet Quadris. Dave: [52:57] Fuck off. This might be getting into a deep casino territory of nerdery that I am not allowed to get into. One more time, please, because that would sound like gibberish for most of it. Sarah: [53:11] I actually know this one. Dan: [53:13] A once promising quarterback who washed out gets a second chance when he uses makeup to disguise his true identity as the superpowered alien prince E-Hawk of the planet Quadris. Dave: [53:24] Fuck. All right. Sarah: [53:25] I do know this. Dave: [53:26] I know. What the fuck is the... Okay. Chad powers, power, Chad power of, Kid. Chad Powers of Matthew Star. Sarah: [53:42] Yes! You did it. Dan: [53:47] That's for two. Yes, Chad Powers and the Powers of Matthew Star, which ran for, I think, half a season, but is fondly remembered for being one of the worst TV shows ever made. Dave: [53:57] I honestly only know it because Sarah keeps on mentioning it every time. I only know it because Sarah knows it, basically. Sarah: [54:02] Yeah. Well, I'm glad it osmoted into two points. Dan: [54:06] All right, Tara, this is a spinoff of a long-running police drama in which the main characters directly address the audience as they team up with their dog to get the mail and look around for various things that they've misplaced. Tara: [54:19] I have no idea on either half. I will take a hint, please. Dan: [54:22] It starred Donnie Wahlberg and Steve Burns. Tara: [54:25] Boston Blues Clues. Dan: [54:28] Correct for one. Dave: [54:30] I couldn't follow that. I was like, cop rock goes modern life. Dan: [54:35] First off, that's a great idea. Second off, it has to be premiered lately. Dave: [54:39] Yeah, yeah. Dan: [54:40] All right, for Sarah. Sarah: [54:41] Yeah. Dan: [54:41] After encountering a noble and kind of hot guy living in an underground city of outcasts, a grieving widow has the topic of her next book, investigating whether or not he killed his wife. Sarah: [54:53] Can I hear the first half of it again? Dan: [54:55] Sure. After encountering a noble and kind of hot guy living in an underground city of outcasts, A Grieving Widow has the topic of her next book, investigating whether or not he killed his wife. Sarah: [55:06] Can I have a hint, please? Dan: [55:08] Sure. This would star Linda Hamilton and Matthew Rhys. Sarah: [55:12] Linda Hamilton and Matthew Rhys. Dave: [55:15] Linda Hamilton and Matthew Rhys. Sarah: [55:20] Mary Riley. Dave: [55:21] Mary Riley. Sarah: [55:22] Mary Riley. Dave: [55:24] Quit stalling. Sarah: [55:27] Yeah, I don't know the Linda Hamilton part. Dave: [55:30] I'm sorry. Dan: [55:32] Dave, what is that? Dave: [55:34] Beauty and the Beast in Me. Sarah: [55:36] Oh, okay. Dan: [55:37] Is correct. Beauty and the Beast and the Beast in Me. Sarah: [55:40] Gotcha. Oh, God. I forgot she was in that. Okay. Dan: [55:43] Dave. Dave: [55:44] Yes. Dan: [55:44] A PTSD-suffering doctor who works the graveyard shift at San Antonio Memorial Hospital reluctantly takes in his estranged and newly divorced daughter, as well as his two grandsons. Dave: [55:55] Oh, God. What was the name of that hospital again? Dan: [55:59] It is San Antonio Memorial. Dave: [56:01] Oh, boy. And just read the second half for me, please. Dan: [56:05] Sure. He reluctantly takes in his estranged and newly divorced daughter, as well as his two grandsons. Dave: [56:11] I'm going to need a hint on this one, Dan. Dan: [56:13] Sure, it would star Jill Flint and Tim Allen. Tara: [56:16] I think it's a granddaughter and a grandson. Dave: [56:19] It doesn't matter. Tara: [56:21] People who watch the show are yelling at, just kidding. Dave: [56:24] That's true. It doesn't matter to me, because I don't know what this is. No, I don't know. Sorry. Big goose egg on this one. Dan: [56:31] All right. So the PTSD suffering doctor in San Antonio, that is the night shift. Do you remember that was the doctors on a motorcycle in the emergency room? Dave: [56:37] Oh, yeah, right, yeah. Dan: [56:39] The show about a garage owner reluctantly taking his estranged and ludicrous daughter is the Tim Allen show Shifting Gears. Dave: [56:46] Okay. Dan: [56:47] Also, while doing this, I found out that Going Dutch is not actually Tim Allen. That's someone else. I was very surprised. I thought Tara just really loved that new Tim Allen show. Dave: [56:55] Tim Allen stars everybody's new grandma face. Tara: [56:58] There were three shows last spring or last winter about estranged dads and daughters reconnecting. And going Dutch and shifting gears were two of them. Clean slate was the third. Dan: [57:09] All right, for Tara. Chinese scientists attempting to solve a devilishly difficult issue of orbital dynamics are derailed by a monstrous kid that they've just adopted. Tara: [57:19] The three body problem child. Dan: [57:22] Problem Child, of course, being the TV adaptation of that series of movies with a head Gilbert Gottfried come back for both the animated series and was in the live action version. Dave: [57:33] I like money. Tara: [57:34] Bless him. Dan: [57:36] Again, picky a smile upon you. Sarah, the crew of a private charter yacht faced their biggest challenge yet. Ill-behaved 14th century nobility fleeing the Black Death. Tara: [57:48] We watched it for this podcast. Dave: [57:50] Wait, hang on. Sarah: [57:52] We've watched a lot of things for this podcast we have to, Can I hear the clue again, please? Dan: [57:58] The crew of a private charter yacht faces their biggest challenge yet. Ill-behaved 14th century nobility fleeing the Black Death. Sarah: [58:07] Hint. Dan: [58:08] All right, this would star Captain Lee Rosbach and Tony Hale. Sarah: [58:13] That does not... Oh, okay. I remember it, but I can't... I can't... I can't pull the... Below Deck Medieval Times? I can't pull the second one's name. Damn it! Dan: [58:22] It is, in fact, the Decameron, so that'd be Below Decameron. Sarah: [58:26] Oh, that's good. That's good business. Dave: [58:29] Yeah, that's a pretty good piece. Dan: [58:30] All right, for Dave. Dave: [58:31] Yeah, okay. Dan: [58:31] This is a comedic mystery series about a retired man working for a PI and sent undercover into a pretentious interview show filmed at the new school. Dave: [58:43] What? Okay, one more time. Sarah: [58:46] I would watch that. Dan: [58:46] A comedic mystery series about a retired man working for a PI who sent undercover into a pretentious interview show filmed at the new school. Dave: [58:56] Okay, so I forget the exact title, but the first part is A Man on the Inside, I think. And the second part sounds like some tertiary Project Runway show, which, of course, I don't know the title of, but starts with Inside. So I'm going to say A Man on the Inside Project Runway. Dan: [59:14] Dave, what is your favorite curse word? Tara: [59:17] Dave has never seen a second of that show. Dan: [59:20] This show is Inside the Actor's Studio. So it's A Man on the Inside the Actor's Studio with James Lipton, best known, of course, for this show and for writing the definitive dictionary of group names of animals. Dave: [59:32] Do I have my schools mixed up? Dan: [59:33] No, Parsons was also at the new school. Dave: [59:36] Okay. Dan: [59:37] But it's okay. They just fired all the humanities professors anyway. For Tara. An agnostic podcast producer marries a newly single rabbi, and together they have three children, not knowing the tragic fate that awaits them at the hands of a rogue slow cooker. Tara: [59:52] Nobody wants this is us. Dan: [59:57] All right. So that is 18 questions in and time for a score break. Tara: [1:00:02] Okay. Dan: [1:00:03] Right now, Tara. I've got Tara in the lead with 11, Dave with six, and Sarah with five. Dave: [1:00:07] Concur. I concur. Doctor. Sarah: [1:00:10] Same. Dave: [1:00:10] Casino. Dan: [1:00:11] Right. now we're gonna move on to round two in this round we're going to do infixes the two titles we mashed up internally rather than end to end this will make dave angry but he didn't get to approve beforehand so ha ha as before one of the shows in the mashup will have premiered in 2024 2025 and 2026 and the order of the clue will tip you off as to the order of the mashed up title let's start with sarah jazz musician johnny domino is trying to find his feet in a fantasy world when and he teams up with a weird little bald kid. Sarah: [1:00:42] Nightman of the Seven Kingdoms? Dan: [1:00:46] Nightman in a Night of the Seven Kingdoms. My favorite, of course, jazz magician Donnie Domino. Here you go, Dave. A clueless British documentary host with an inexplicable love of Belgian techno anthem pump up the volume, walks viewers through the events occurring after the crash of a Weyland-Yutani ship coming back from space. Dave: [1:01:04] Wow. This is Kunk on Alien Earth. now imagine interview questions about the xenomorphs okay. Dan: [1:01:13] Spider-man easy reader millie the helper and other educational children's characters try to investigate a conspiracy after an embarrassing incident at work. Tara: [1:01:24] The electric chair company. Dan: [1:01:27] The electric chair, the electric company and the chair company. All right, for Sarah, for some reason, the London police need the help of a guy with a huge collection of old texts and a very on the nose name to figure out what happened to a theoretically fearsome bounty hunter after he got eaten by a sarlacc. Sarah: [1:01:48] After he got eaten by a sarlacc? Dave: [1:01:51] As one does. Sarah: [1:01:53] As one does uh i don't know if this is gonna help me but i mean i know but half of it is i think half of it is bookish i guess we'll find out could i have a hint please sure. Dan: [1:02:03] Stars mark gaddis in temura morrison. Sarah: [1:02:05] Oh how how lovely for them theoretically. Dan: [1:02:11] Fearsome bounty hunter who doesn't actually ever do anything important. Sarah: [1:02:14] Bookish of boba fett oh all right bookish. Dan: [1:02:21] Of Boba Fett, bookish and the book. Dave: [1:02:23] No, no, no, no. I have to insist it is book of Boba Fettish. Sarah: [1:02:29] Ew. Do you? Dave: [1:02:30] Yes. Sarah: [1:02:31] Do you have to do that? Dave: [1:02:32] It's just tons and tons of pages of Boba Fett and all the comma suit repositions. Sarah: [1:02:38] And one of them. Dave: [1:02:39] The rocket. All right. Sarah: [1:02:41] All right. Dan: [1:02:43] Dave, a group of castaways figures out that they've finally got a way to get home, but first they have to play an inane guessing game against a shadowy banker? Dave: [1:02:51] Uh, I think this is Gilligan's Deal or No Deal Island. Dan: [1:02:57] Absolutely right. Gilligan's Island and Deal or No Deal. Sarah: [1:03:00] Even more unwatchable for both. Dan: [1:03:02] Tara, this one made me happy. This is the wacky scientific exploration-focused field trips. They were a lot more fun before Miss Frizzle was replaced by an ahedonic romanticist author struggling against a world-conquering hive mind. Tara: [1:03:16] The Magic School Pluribus. Dave: [1:03:18] Wow, that's a good one. Dan: [1:03:20] All right, starring, of course, Lily Tomlin and Rhea Seahorn. Sarah, an ambitious young woman feels stuck in her job at a talent agency, but her life changes when she runs into her ex-best friend, former federal prosecutor from New York, who's reinvented himself as a lawyer for L.A.'s Powerful. Sarah: [1:03:37] I love Law & Order L.A. Dan: [1:03:41] Sorry, the former federal prosecutor from New York who's reinvented himself as a lawyer for The Powerful is Suits L.A. So this would be I Love Suits L.A., something no one has ever said. Sarah: [1:03:51] No, even people who were in it did not say that. Ugh. Dan: [1:03:56] Dave. Dave: [1:03:56] Yeah. Dan: [1:03:56] A film stuntman moonlights as a bounty hunter amid mutants and bandits in a post-apocalyptic Los Angeles. Dave: [1:04:03] The Fallout Guy. Dan: [1:04:05] Number two. Tara. Tara: [1:04:08] Yes. Dan: [1:04:08] This is an observational documentary series with lots of spinoffs, following an older woman who gets out of prison and rejoins the workforce as an attorney with a secret agenda. Tara: [1:04:18] I'll have a hint, please. Dan: [1:04:21] Starring Lee Phillips and Kathy Bates. Tara: [1:04:24] I don't know what the first half is. The last half is Matlock, but I don't have it. Dave: [1:04:30] Matt Locked Up or something like that? Dan: [1:04:33] It would be Life After Lockup, so that's Life After Matt Lockup. Tara: [1:04:37] Oh, of course. Dan: [1:04:39] All right, for Sarah. Sarah: [1:04:40] Yeah? Dan: [1:04:41] If you need help, you can wire Gentleman and Gunfighter Paladin at the Carlton Hotel in San Francisco. And if he can't do the job, he'll commit ritual suicide to restore his honor and make it right. Tara: [1:04:53] That's so good. Dave: [1:04:54] I like it. This is the best one. All right. I might have to create a poster for this later. Sarah: [1:05:03] Could I hear the clue again, please, while my mind casts back? Dan: [1:05:07] If you need help, you can wire gentlemanly gunfighter Paladin at the Carlton Hotel in San Francisco. If he can't do the job, he'll commit ritual suicide to restore his honor and make it right. Sarah: [1:05:20] Paladin. Dave: [1:05:22] I love your brain down. Sarah: [1:05:23] I don't know the actual name of the show, though. Shogun for Hire? I don't know the name of Shogun. Dave: [1:05:29] Is it Have Shogun Will Travel? Sarah: [1:05:33] Oh, Have Shogun Will Travel. I still want the poster, though. Dan: [1:05:38] Wire with the Carlton Hotel, room 314. I found out that some people apparently thought Paladin's first name was Wire because it says Wire Paladin. Dave: [1:05:45] Oh, no. Dan: [1:05:48] All right, Dave. Dave: [1:05:49] Yeah. Dan: [1:05:50] When her mother dies, a wine distributor realizes that she's very unhappy with her life. So she hooks up with a guy from Long Island, gets herself a distinctive wardrobe, and moves to New York, where she helps cops solve baffling cases. Which is always a cry for help, honestly. Dave: [1:06:09] Okay, so wait. Okay, so that's one show. The Long Island is part of the first show. Okay, so it's not what I thought it was. Wine distributor. Dan: [1:06:19] Can I get the hint, Dave? Dave: [1:06:20] Yeah. Yeah, okay. I guess I'll take the hint. Dan: [1:06:22] So this would star Amy Schumer and Carrie Preston. Tara: [1:06:26] Oh, Dave has no idea what that show is. Dave: [1:06:29] Yeah, okay. Well, I had Elspeth. Tara: [1:06:31] Mm-hmm. Dave: [1:06:31] And I thought at first, before I realized that the Long Island part of it was part of the wine clue, that it was that show you watched with Eva Longoria in Spain. I'm like, I had no way I could remember. And I thought maybe it started with L because it was, you know, and I was trying to figure it out, but that's not it. Tara: [1:06:48] No, I don't even remember what that show was called and I watched every episode. Dave: [1:06:52] Amy Schumer, Els... Tara: [1:06:54] You're never going to get it. Dave: [1:06:55] Never going to get it, apparently. Dan: [1:06:56] Sorry, David, it's called, that show is called Life and Beth, so this is Life and Elsbeth. Dave: [1:07:01] Okay. Dan: [1:07:01] All right. Dave: [1:07:02] Well. Dan: [1:07:02] Final question is for Tara. Dave: [1:07:03] What do you got to do? Dan: [1:07:04] A single mom working as a cleaner in a police station is capable of so much more as she finds out when she accompanies an unnamed weed dealer in his rounds across New York. Tara: [1:07:13] High maintenance potential. Dave: [1:07:16] Nice. Dan: [1:07:17] Or high potential maintenance, either one works. Sarah: [1:07:20] I'd watch that. Dan: [1:07:21] All right, so final scores. Sarah has a respectable eight. Dave comes in with 12, but our winner with 17 points, it's Tara. Dave: [1:07:29] Yeah, way to go. Sarah: [1:07:30] Tara. The spread eagle. Dan: [1:07:33] I do have a tiebreaker just for shits and giggles. Dave: [1:07:36] Okay. Dan: [1:07:36] So the last question was about High Potential. This is the U.S. version of a European show that premiered in 2021. It is paired up with a different show, very similar, about an autistic police archivist who helps the police solve baffling crime. And it turns out countries can have one of those shows, but not both for some reason. Anyway, to date, how many different localized versions of that show that we in USF has high potential, including the U.S. and the original, have been produced? So how many different international versions of high potential could watch? We'll let everyone go closest to the pin wins. Dave: [1:08:09] Ooh, OK. OK, sorry, I'm in. Dan: [1:08:12] Everyone's good. All right. Sarah, how many versions do they? Sarah: [1:08:15] Six. Dan: [1:08:16] All right. Dave. Dave: [1:08:17] Eight. Dan: [1:08:18] And Tara. Tara: [1:08:18] I also thought six, so I'll change to five. Dan: [1:08:21] All right. Well, you shouldn't have. The answer actually was six. This is in the US. It is high potential. In France, it's called HPI. In Slovakia, it's called Excellent Nicole. In Czechia, it's called Pripa de Memorandne Marti. In Greek, it's IQ 160. And in Hungary, it's called Arrenetens. Dave: [1:08:39] All right. I'm going to take your word for that pronunciation, but I was impressed by all of that. And I think you just put that in there as a way to show off. Dan: [1:08:47] Yes, I'm trying to show off my Czech pronunciation. Absolutely. Sarah: [1:08:50] Excellent, Nicole. That's a good name. Dave: [1:08:52] That is pretty good. All right. So today, Tar wins. Dave: [1:09:02] Thank you, Dan. That was fun and a little bit enraging as all Dan Casino games are. Dan: [1:09:07] Oh, my pleasure. Dave: [1:09:08] Well, guys, that is it for this episode of Extra Hot. Great. We took out a contract on... Shit, I'm sorry. Sorry, one sec. What was the name of the lead topic again? Tara: [1:09:23] Memory of a Killer. Dave: [1:09:24] Thank you. Acting! You all just fell for a hilarious bit before going around the dial with stops at The Beauty, A Knight of the Seven Dials, The Plague, and Wrestlers. Emily May's crash landing on you didn't quite get off the EASG canon runway. We crowned winners and losers of the week, and Tara was the winner of this week's Game Time from Dan. Next up, it is Wonder Man on Extra, Extra Hot. Great, Dan, quick 10 seconds on Wonder Man. What's his deal? Dan: [1:09:53] He is a really bad actor who is a stuntman and was on David Letterman once. It's a good comic. Dave: [1:09:58] Fantastic. All right, guys. Remember, I am David T. Cole and on behalf of Tara Ariano. Tara: [1:10:08] I won't let this slide. Desperate effort. Dave: [1:10:12] Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah: [1:10:14] Excellent Nicole. Dave: [1:10:16] And Dr. Dan Casino. Dan: [1:10:19] Who ruined someone else's surprise party like that? Jesus. Tara: [1:10:23] I'm saying. Dave: [1:10:24] We'll see you next time. Right here on Extra Hot Great. Yeah.