Bringing Strong Arguments And Razzmatazz To Strip Law

Dave: [0:45] This is the Extra Extra Hot Grape Podcast, episode 396 for the February 21st, 2026 weekend. I am Volcano Toilet David T. Cole, and I'm here with living spaghetti and meatballs platter Tara or Ariano. Tara: [1:18] Whatever, as long as I can look at my phone. Welcome to Extra, Extra Hot Great for another weekend. Once again, it is just the Austin office here. We are missing Sarah, and we miss her. She will be back as soon as is humanly possible, I am sure. But for now, just me and Dave. Hey, Dave. Dave: [1:46] Hello. America's cookie jar. Tara: [1:49] And we're thinking of that cookie jar right now. Thank you, listeners, for your support. Thanks for being here. We are going to tell you all about strip law. Lincoln Gum, voice of Adam Scott, is a Las Vegas lawyer who knows he'll never live up to his legendary lawyer mother, Marsha. But her death gives him a chance to reinvent himself with the help of street magician Sheila Flambe, Janelle James, his super intelligent niece, Irene, and disbarred weirdo Glem Blorchman, Stephen Rude. Will it matter how strong Lincoln's courtroom arguments are if he can simply nail showmanship? The show was created by former Late Show with Stephen Colbert writer Cullen Crawford. All 10 episodes of the first season dropped on Netflix February 20th. We got access to the whole season. We may talk about any episode because we fucking watched every single one. Let's do the Chen check-in. Dave, should our listeners watch Strip Law? Dave: [2:50] Yeah, absolutely. Really great series. Scratch and Itch, Venture Brothers, Frisky Dingo, Scratch. And it was very, very nice. Tara: [3:00] I was thinking Clone High. I mean, these are all sort of like in terms of... And yes, it's very joke dense. It's really funny. It's so stupid. It's a really good time. We had so much fun watching it. And Dave, we sample a lot of adult animated comedies that we never come back to. What do you think a show in this category needs to do? to break through for you and how did strip law do that? Dave: [3:25] I'm not a big fan of animated shows that don't use the animation in their storylines. Like if it is just like here is a sitcom, but it's animated, I don't really care. But like, why are you bothering? Like, why are you going to the trouble and the expense of animating something that doesn't have an elastic reality or takes place somewhere where you can't really film it? Right. Tara: [3:46] Or has flights of fancy that you see animated like a la Big Mouth, for example. Dave: [3:51] Right. Exactly. Yeah. This show takes advantage of that. It is a story that takes place on the Las Vegas Strip. It involves lawyers. I think the first episode is called Finally, a Show About Lawyers. Tara: [4:02] Yes. Dave: [4:02] They just do a really good job of bending things when they need to bend it. I appreciate that. And the fact that they have a cast of characters and everybody is sort of damaged in a different way. And they all have different levels of psychosis going on. And that really just feeds into itself. and it really pays dividends. And You add to that good animation. Like, I really like the style. And the fact that they're doing, as I said, some 30 Rock-esque elastic reality moments, big and small, is a nice, neat package. It really does remind me a lot of Venture Brothers in that particular way. Tara: [4:43] Yeah, I agree. And I think, too, there is a right and wrong way for a show to be dumb. And you know it when you see it. Dave: [4:51] I have an example of that. Tara: [4:52] Great. Dave: [4:52] So this is the first animated show I've seen in a long time that does a belabored God Emperor of Dune cover art joke. And it was so stupid. It really just made me laugh out loud. Like, what happened for this to make pass in writer's room? And God bless him for doing it. But that's the sort of thing we're talking about, where it's like, do you need a character who's talking about worms and books? I forget exactly what the setup was. But then like the punchline is there's a statue of him as the weird Paul Atreides as a worm character from the cover of the third book. Fantastic. And that's the kind of thing this show is inserting six, seven times an episode, at least. Tara: [5:35] Yeah, there's jokes all the way to the edge of the frame. Dave: [5:39] Yeah. The way I just explained it, you can say like, oh, like Family Guy? No, not like Family Guy. It is smart, stupid. Tara: [5:44] Yes, exactly. Dave: [5:44] It's not stupid, stupid. Tara: [5:46] And I'll also say this pilot, I think, did the least exposition of any that I have seen lately. Like, it just drops you into the action and explains things later. Like, the relationship between Lincoln and Irene. Dave: [5:59] Yeah. Tara: [5:59] I mean, by the end of the first season, I'm like, still not 100 of how Glem fits into all of this, but it doesn't matter. Dave: [6:06] Yeah, he's just there to be the weird, creepy guy in the office, and that's fine. I'm sure as the series goes on, and I hope they do more, then we will get like an origin story for him. We got little glimpses. The glimpse we got of him is that he inherits a curse and turns into somebody that looked like Glenn. He's actually way younger, if that was true. He's actually probably about 30 or so now instead of like 60. and if you have seen the art or anything he really like when i first saw him i was like oh my god that's the rich father from the critic you know that guy he looks a lot like him lots of moments like that were just like that was so stupid like even in the credits their equivalent of the new york new york hotel is calgary calgary which made me laugh out loud yes. Tara: [6:52] I do slightly regret not having held promotional considerations to our game on the main episode this week to next week because the first episode of Strip Law is about 10% fake lawyer ads, and there's a fake ad in almost every episode. Dave: [7:08] Yep. Tara: [7:08] And they're so, so good. Dave: [7:10] Tall lawyer. Tara: [7:11] Tall lawyer. Tall lawyers. Nichols and gum, they're in your pocket. Dave: [7:15] Yeah. Tara: [7:16] Because his mother's partner was Steve Nichols. But yeah, so you see them animated as... a bunch of nickels and some gum. It's really, really stupid. Dave: [7:26] But just the premise of the first case of the series, and you heard it in the intro, is that one of the dancers from the strip club comes in. Tara: [7:35] The Brushfire Club. Dave: [7:36] The Brushfire Club comes in because the management is forcing them to eat the customer's keys, and the customers love when the strippers have to eat the keys, but it's making them sick. and that is the whole premise of the first case of it it is so dumb but like right out of the gate that's what you want they're just like planting the flag that this is going to be a really stupid but still smart the best kind of comedy for yes show yeah only i thought weak episode was the second episode and i actually watched it again this morning because sometimes you're like and then you like during a rewatch you're like oh now knowing now i get it going back i get it but that It didn't click. So if you're watching it, you like the pilot a lot, and the second one doesn't do for you, just keep going because that was like an outlier. Tara: [8:24] Yeah, but they also do their own spins on very standard... tropey storylines like it's only in episode three that lincoln has to uh start coaching a peewee sports team. Dave: [8:38] Right they. Tara: [8:39] Put a spin on that as well which was unexpected the way these kids are weird. Dave: [8:44] Well you think the spin is that it's a team of homeschooled children but then they spin that as well that was very satisfying and i won't ruin it but that was great and the kicker to that is well I can't explain what that is, but let's just say there's a tragic end for some of the people at the end of that episode. And there's a callback to it in like the penultimate or the ultimate episode. It's just a blink and you miss it. But it's one of those shows that's very proud of its world building. And it is always referencing back for comedy or back for like little character moments. And that was one of them that I noticed, but it's just like jam packed full of that stuff. So it is at once like stupid, dumb fun, but it's also got a whiff of that. Those lore magnets, you know, like the Reddit people that are just like, did you notice like A, B and C and D? It's like, it doesn't really matter. Tara: [9:32] No, but it's fun. Dave: [9:33] To the comedy of it, but it's amusing, you know, like it's a fun little bonus. Tara: [9:37] It gives you more things to notice if you watch it again. Dave: [9:40] Right, exactly. Tara: [9:40] And they also, toward the end of the season, the second last episode is an awards banquet for local lawyer awards, the Golden Gavels. And after that one, you were like, that's the finale, right? Because you were going to go let the dogs out. I was like, no, there was one more. And then the finale is called Finale, colon, A Show About Lawyers in a nod to the premiere title. But the swing that they take with that is so ambitious and so insane. Yeah. Then I won't spoil it, but it's very funny. Dave: [10:13] And they do swing for it, and it's sort of like conceptually a slight outlier, but they blend it so well with the lawyers of the show that I was like, oh, I was a little bit crossed arms when they started. I was like, really? The last episode is going to be this sort of tangent kind of thing? Tara: [10:29] Yeah. Dave: [10:29] But it wasn't. They really pulled it in a very direct parody of something. Tara: [10:34] Yes, it is. Dave: [10:34] And they do it so well. Tara: [10:36] Yeah, they do. Dave: [10:37] Yeah, they really nailed it. Tara: [10:38] So I've been vocal as the only person who thinks severance is kind of bullshit, but I will give it to Adam Scott. He is a very good voiceover. Dave: [10:45] He's really good. All the cast, I thought, was great. You got Keith David as the adversarial lawyer who used to work with Lincoln's mom. Tara: [10:53] Nichols. Dave: [10:54] Yeah. Yep. And you've got Janelle James, Ava from Abbott Elementary. She is the magician slash partner. He brings the law. She brings the razzmatazz. He actually does like magic stuff during the courtroom to make it a spectacle. Who else we got? Oh, Stephen Root as Glenn. Stephen Root as Glenn is fucking fantastic. Tara: [11:15] He's amazing. Dave: [11:15] He pulls off so many stupid lines and so many like weird and disturbing moments. I got one of them. I'm going to play it. It's from like halfway through the season. Doesn't really spoil any of the plot, but they're giving homage to obviously one of this show's sources of inspiration. Well, there he is, Kevin, the new paralegal, the hotshot. Tara: [11:46] Boy around here. Okay, who's a cool bad boy? Of course, Bart Simpson. Okay, great. And what cool things does Bart do? All I remember is his dad, Homer, chokes him all the time. Also, in the movies, they show his penis. Anything else? Nope, okay. Starts to take his pants off. I'm sorry, what's happening? Dave: [12:05] My dad chokes me! Tara: [12:10] Not the only Bart Simpson reference in the season either there's another pretty funny one from, an Aaron Brockovich storyline with Irene and Glam as well yeah Lincoln the Adam Scott character is about as close to a straight man as the show has which means it takes until halfway through the first episode until we see him whacked out on pills in a hot tub on a Ferris wheel because that's the thing that happens in Vegas. But his weirdness starts getting folded in before very long. Like we already talked about the homeschool kids on the basketball team. We find out he was a homeschooled kid, and it's part of his sort of his origin story, too. Dave: [12:46] Yeah, he does some really disturbing stuff around his mother, too. I got another clip. I'm going to play it. But there's a certain point where he's just like down on himself because nothing is going his way. And he's sort of like coming to realize that he was never really loved as a child, that his mother's love was pushing him to just be a good lawyer and nothing else. And here is the clip. He is in his dark office and he's got a framed photo of his mother and he's talking for both of them. Well, mom, I'm a disgrace to your legacy. Tara: [13:16] You sure are, which is why now I live in hell eating bugs. But mom, it turns out instead of a toilet in hell, Don't leave me here. Night, Dennis. Yeah, the closing theme song is very influenced by the taxi theme song also, by the way. I'm going to say some of the best jokes in the premiere. A TV in the courtroom showing a football game. There's a ring girl in the courtroom with a closing arguments card. Dave: [13:56] Yeah, like a boxing. Tara: [13:58] A defendant in Steve's commercial sticking a gun in his mouth. Dave: [14:01] Oh my God, that was so funny. But the commercial is for Nichols, the guy that used to partner up with Lincoln's dead mother. and they're like, we're going to win this case. It's a slam dunk. And then somebody says, we're up against Steve Nichols. And he immediately just pulls the gun out, pops it in his mouth, and the whole table comes to the conference table, and they all scramble to pull it out. It is so, so dark. Yeah. It was great. Tara: [14:26] It's amazing. Dave: [14:27] Yeah. Tara: [14:27] Every male stripper name you heard in the intro, but especially Angry Christopher. Dave: [14:32] Angry Christopher is my favorite too. And the one you don't see is when they talk about Mr. Ass. His full name is actually the mysterious Mr. Ass, And he's wearing a, what are the, he's wearing a luchador mask with a big question mark. Yeah. Tara: [14:46] A car dealer saying that if customers can find a better deal, they can kill him. And then Glem negotiates it down to a maiming. Dave: [14:53] But it's a car dealer who changed his last name to Toyota to fit in better with his dealership. But as Glem says, he didn't think it through. And they have a commercial later in the episode, which is, welcome to Henderson's Toyota, Toyota. And it was like, oh, yeah, right. Tara: [15:07] Also that a stripper's dozen is 34. That's right. Dave: [15:14] Isn't that how many key fobs he had to eat? Yeah. Okay. Tara: [15:17] So I'm disappointed that after Lincoln unveils his legal nudie suit at the end of the first episode, he doesn't just make that his court uniform or have several variations like Saul Goodman. And this is the, you see this in the lead art for this episode of the podcast. That's what I'm talking about. Dave: [15:33] I had to look that up because I heard nudie suit and I just thought it was like a nude suit. Tara: [15:37] No, I'll put a link in the show notes. It's like when you see a country artist in a very spangled, sequined, elaborate suit. Dave: [15:47] Often hand-painted with stuff. Tara: [15:49] Yes. They're called the nudie suit after the creator of them are nudie cone. So that's the inspiration for a Lincoln suit that has gavels and scales and all the justice-y stuff. But otherwise, what a delightful surprise of a show. Dave: [16:04] Yeah, I was so happy to have it land because it's just like everybody knows the world in which we live. And just having something like incredibly smart and stupid to just like zone out to enjoy the ride was great. And again, except for episode two, I thought it was like super solid all the way through. Tons of laughs. Right show, right moment. Thank you. Tara: [16:25] Yeah, absolutely. I followed Colin Crawford on Blue Sky and have for a long time. But then like every other comedy person, as soon as the trailer dropped, was like, this is the show I am most excited to see. And they were all right. Dave: [16:43] You know what else is all right? It's the theme to Ask EHG, the segment in which you ask questions, and then we, EHG, answer them. Tara: [16:55] Beep, beep, beep. Dave: [16:58] Wow. Tara: [17:04] Toink. Dave: [17:07] What did you do? Tara: [17:08] Toink. Dave: [17:09] Toink. All right, before we get into your questions, we have to deal with last week's Ask Ask EHG. Let's spin that wheel. Oh, it's me. All right, I will be your judge this week. Question came from Fairy Ruby. Fairy Ruby says, I am watching Gilmore Girls and got angry all over again at the writers making Lane pregnant the first time she had sex instead of getting the cool rock and roll life she deserved. Here comes the question. Dave: [17:37] What character art makes you feel like a character got cheated of the future they should have had? Lots of good answers. I'm going to have two winners for you this week. First one is Steel Meal Eric. the man who gives value guests a steel mill every week on the main show, God bless him. He answered Ensign Rowe from Star Trek Next Generation. Dave: [17:59] She could have been the co-lead of Deep Space Nine if Michelle Forbes, the actress, wasn't worried about being typecast or taking on a big commitment with the series. Instead, in the universe, she joined the Maquis, that is like the rebel group in the show, betrays Picard, disappears for 30 years from our timeline before being killed. So bummer on that one. I always liked Ensign Rowe. I always thought she was like a strong character and seemed like more based in reality, seemed more grounded than anybody else. And then our second winner is Nora. And this is a bit of a journey, but Nora came in right away, like within a few minutes of the question being posted, it automatically goes up at midnight. Obviously answered before listening to the episode because there's no way she could do it in time. Gave the exact same answer as Fairy Ruby's example. She said, Lane from Gilmore Girls. And then everybody, without listening to the episode, upvoted that right away. There's like 10 upvotes. Yes, that's the one. This should be the poster child for that. We should name it after Lane. So for this time only, we all know it was the same as the example. But she didn't know that. And the people who agreed with her didn't know that. I'm also going to give Anora a sticker. But we're not doing it again because I know there's people on the Discord that. Dave: [19:14] Will try to use that to their advantage and pretend that they hadn't listened to the episode yet. So this one, oh, thank you, Nora. And I was sort of taking the piss out of it. It was like, oh, you know, this is a bold strategy using the example from the show. Let's see if it pays out for you. And it did. Tara: [19:30] And it did. Dave: [19:30] So I apologize if you took it the wrong way, Nora, because she erased the post later on the next day. So I'm worried that I seemed a little too aggressive there, but it was all in good fun. So Nora, Eric, DM me on Discord. Or give me your address, I'll send you a sticker back. All right, shall we get into questions for us? Tara: [19:47] Oh, let's do. Dave: [19:47] All right, first one comes from Vandy. My partner and I were discussing Walter White versus Boyd Crowder, which prompts my question, who is the most evil TV character? Lots to choose from. Most evil. Tara: [19:58] This is first thought Beth's thought. Orson Krennic from Andor. Snyder. Dave: [20:05] Yeah. Tara: [20:06] So, you know, like Boyd is pretty bad in his way, but he's really not in the same category. Dave: [20:13] No, he's local evil. Tara: [20:15] Yeah, Dave. Dave: [20:15] He's not galactic evil. Yeah, I got answers that start on the same level. Actually, let me go from galactic size down to the coziest local size here. Tara: [20:26] Okay. Dave: [20:26] So galactically, let's see. First one, I'm going to say is Homelander from The Boys. Tara: [20:31] Yeah. Dave: [20:32] You know, absolute monster. He has that James Bond thing where he's an absolute monster, but also he has that weird affectation that he wants to drink breast milk. So he's got that going for him too. It's like evil plus. It's like you subscribe to the ad version of Homelander or you describe to the Homelander Plus with breast milk. Tara: [20:49] Sure. Dave: [20:49] Down from that one, we've got two sort of kingdom-y ones. I'm going to put Ramsay Bolton from Game of Thrones. Tara: [20:55] Okay. Dave: [20:55] Number two. Very similar scale. Francis Underwood from House of Cards also enjoys the plus of being Kevin Spacey character. So you get real world bonus. Tara: [21:07] Yeah. Dave: [21:08] Killgrave from Jessica Jones. And then my most localized one, Nellie Olsen from Little House of the Great. Tara: [21:15] Yeah. She's not evil. To me, I would say she's not evil. She's just like a shit head. Dave: [21:20] You got to read between the lines, Tara. Tara: [21:21] I guess. Dave: [21:22] She's killing people left and right off screen. Tara: [21:23] Oh, damn. Dave: [21:24] Yeah. Jovial Jen, what TV mob character would you want to help solve your IT problems? For real, real answer, Stringer Bell from The Wire. He's got his shit together. He may not know a lot about computers, but he will learn a lot about computers, just like he learned accounting and all that. My entertaining answer, one I want to see to be entertained, is Tommy Shelby from Peaky Blinders being sat in front of a computer and then told to solve a problem. I would like to see that. I think the computer ends up with a shotgun in the face. Tara: [21:57] Oh, I was going to say the computer ends up getting fucked by Tommy Shelby. Dave: [22:00] That's right. He seduces the computer, fucks it, and then, of course, by that transaction, dooms it. Tara: [22:08] Right. Dave: [22:09] Yep. Got it. Tara: [22:10] I went with Tony Blondetto. That's the Steve Buscemi character from Sopranos, because at least he looks like a nerd. Dave: [22:17] Yeah. Tara: [22:17] That's all I had. Dave: [22:18] Okay. Tara: [22:19] The Stringer Bell answer is really good. I was only thinking like classic mob, not the broader organized crime community. Dave: [22:26] Yeah. Tara: [22:26] That's on me. Dave: [22:27] That's on you. This next one comes from Death. death itself death incarnate is here to ask us a question or perhaps the numbers app really just wanted autocorrect the atho and i couldn't stop it so i just gave up and now it's from death so thank you death for chiming in with this question it is 11 40 p.m you are feeling snacky what are you reaching for tara well. Tara: [22:52] This is an example where i feel like we could answer for each other. Dave: [22:55] Okay oh. Tara: [22:56] Do you want me. Dave: [22:57] Yeah no let's do it i can answer for you okay tara is reaching for a bowl of cereal. Tara: [23:03] I don't really like night cereal that much anymore. Dave: [23:06] It's like I don't even know you anymore. Tara: [23:07] I know. Dave: [23:08] I'd like to file for divorce. Tara: [23:12] Okay, well, my answer for you is you're having popcorn. Dave: [23:14] I should eat it so late. It's a lot of snack. Tara: [23:17] Yeah. Dave: [23:18] Problem is, I usually in a snack, if I'm being honest with myself, just want something starchy. Tara: [23:23] Yeah. Dave: [23:24] You know, there are sweet and savory snacks that you can have. Absolutely. And I do indulge once in a while. Right now, we have the bogglingly named Fat Boy Jr. ice cream sandwiches in our freezer. If you're going to name something Fat Boy, I'm sorry, you can't make a small version of it. They're delicious. Tara: [23:41] And it is like the right size. Dave: [23:43] But I always just really want like potato chips or something like that. And I don't have them in the house because if they're in the house, I'll just eat the whole fucking bag. My favorite snack lately, geologically speaking, has been spicy dill pickle goldfish crackers. crisps, sorry, not crackers, their crisps line. They are so good. It is the most flavorful snack I have had in years. They really do not skimp on the emulsified flavoring that is all over these poor little fishies. And if I had a bag, I'll be like, I'll just have a little bowl of them. And then I'll go back and finish it off an hour later. Who am I kidding? And then it's like, 600 calories later. And it's like, what am I doing? That was supposed to be a snack. Sometimes you have to save yourself. Tara: [24:26] It's true. Anyway, my answer is a sachet of Smart Sweets Barbie gummies. Dave: [24:30] Sure. Tara: [24:31] Because there's, you know, to your point about portion control. Dave: [24:34] Yeah. Tara: [24:34] Or popcorn to your not point about portion control, because I will also eat a whole bag. Dave: [24:39] Saddest snack I've had lately? is sometimes I create thick little squares out of two Velveeta cheese slices. I'll put two, smack them on top of each other, fold it once, fold it again. And I get like, honestly, it's a little fat boy junior of cheese. And I'll eat it like that because I am basic. Vandy, back with another question. When is the last time you ate out at a restaurant that requires reservations? I really had to think about this one. Tara: [25:04] I'm eager to hear what you say. Dave: [25:06] Okay, I think I figured it out, but just with the caveat that it would never be for just us going somewhere to eat. It always has to be somebody's in town, we have to go somewhere fancy. And the only other people we know that need to go somewhere fancy are Tara's parents. So I think the last time I had to make reservations for a dinner probably was when we still lived in Hawaii and we made reservations to go to Merriman's, the super fancy restaurant in Waimea. I can't think of anything more recent than that. Tara: [25:35] And that would literally don't remember and i think it was when i went to visit guess who my parents in oakville in 2023 and we went to an italian place that they like okay so what we're learning from this is we only make reservations when my parents are in town and like we hardly ever eat in restaurants anymore now anyway it's too expensive it's it's too expensive but also like i think we just like got out of the habit during COVID. Dave: [26:06] This is true. All right, Dan Casino, what TV character has the most detailed or annoying copy order? Tara: [26:13] I think canonically it's Niles Crane on Frasier. Dave: [26:16] Oh yeah. Tara: [26:17] Dave. Dave: [26:17] It's not a complicated order, but when we were watching The Expanse, the captain of the ship, captain guy, he would grind a match head into his coffee. Tara: [26:28] Right. Dave: [26:28] I thought that was annoying. You know, with that and the guy with the hat. Tara: [26:32] Yeah. Dave: [26:33] The show had a lot of affectations that were very annoying. Tara: [26:36] Yep. Enough. I'm so sick and tired of hearing. Dave: [26:39] You people talk about food, food, food. EC Fell, do you have a go-to gift for weddings, baby showers, housewarming, milestone birthdays, etc.? Tara: [26:47] Dave, do you? Dave: [26:49] All right. You don't have to. I know. Here's my answer, Dick. I'm not going to pretend I'm involved or interested in the process. And I thank Tara for always dealing with this. Credit given. Tara: [27:02] Thank you. But my answer is no. If it's a wedding or a baby shower, I just get something off of the registry. And otherwise, I get something bespoke. I like gift shopping. When people mention things that they want or need or like, I take notes through the year. Literally, I have a note in my notes app. I try to get them something that's unexpected. Thank you. Dave: [27:29] Elsbeth, please describe the 80s, 90s sitcom style freeze frame credit for the podcast. So we are now a TV show. What is the freeze frame for extra hot? Great. Tara: [27:39] Oh, okay. I assume this was like the moment where it freezes on us and where it says our names in the credit sequence. Yeah, exactly. Okay. I am grudgingly getting out of bed when Nolten wakes me up to go and feed him in the morning. Dave: [27:52] Yeah. Tara: [27:52] That's me. Sarah is at her desk when a cat launches itself off of it. And then Dave is grudgingly getting up when Nolten wakes him up because it's his turn to get up to feed the dogs. Dave: [28:04] Okay. Tara: [28:04] It's bookending them. Dave: [28:06] All right. I'm doing it for this week. So Sarah is not involved. Tara: [28:09] Okay. Dave: [28:10] Okay. So we sort of ended up doing this a day or two ago when I decided just to walk into Tara's office, lift up my shirt and present my belly, my pregnant belly, like worthy of being photographed, which we did. Tara: [28:21] Which we did. Dave: [28:22] Yeah. So I think that would be the freeze frame. So I had a really stupid look on my face as well. Tara: [28:26] Yep. Dave: [28:27] L-Triple-B, which show is doing more damage to its legacy by continuing, Saturday Night Live or The Simpsons? It's got to be The Simpsons for me. Tara: [28:37] Interesting. Dave: [28:37] They were on fire for a few years. The hit rate was really good during the golden years. And then suddenly, like, it wasn't. It just kind of got messy and inconsistent and started being more reactionary to things instead of setting the tone or, you know, doing things that pop culture would then mirror. It was sort of working the other way. I don't know one person in my life that, like me, was fluent in Simpsons back in the day that still watches The Simpsons now. Like, not one person. With Saturday Night Live... I also think their prime is way behind them. And part of that is just like the monoculture doesn't support, you know, the meme, you know, we didn't call them memes then, but the memification of, you know, like everybody's saying not. I remember the first time I was playing Duke Nukem online and all these people in the chat would keep on saying things. And then after a pause, typed in not with the exclamation point, like, what the fuck is going on? Why are they correcting themselves all the time? And then I found out later that that was from Saturday Night Live. The main reason is Saturday Night Live gets to churn talent. So they're sort of like get mini reinventions every year. So I feel like they could cycle in and out of being truly terrible more often. And The Simpsons is just like, when you lose a customer, you lose a customer. Tara: [29:53] My answer is the opposite. It's SNL because A, the consistently best parts are the ones that aren't live. And yet it persists in being mostly live every episode for like truly no reason. This is like my most boring hobby horse, but I'm still on it. Dave: [30:10] Yeah. Tara: [30:11] And B, having positioned itself as having its finger on the pulse of culture and politics, it keeps getting covered as though it's important when what passes for satirical commentary on the show is puerile and first thought and lazy and toothless. And it is not meeting the current political moment in terms of what it's doing. Dave: [30:30] Right. Tara: [30:30] So I think it's more showily bad. Like, for the reason that you said, no one, like, Tastemakers, I think, are not still watching The Simpsons. Like, it's still happening. Yeah. Whereas Saturday Night Live is, like, something that every entertainment site, like, has someone watching it live on Saturday night so they can do their recap and talk about this or that, you know, hopefully they hope viral moment that happened. But it's... Uh, dumb and bad. So I think that's an L. And yet it is like, as an institution, something I'm still fascinated by. Like I read the Lorne Michaels biography. I went to that exhibit at the Harry Ransom Center at UT. You know, it's still interesting that it happens. It's just a shame that what they're actually, what the output actually is, is so, uh, you know, crappy. Dave: [31:20] Yep. All right. Here comes your question to answer, dear listeners. It is from Radish Keg. Radish Keg asks, what's a pop culture fact that took you way too long to find out about? Now, a bonus if your answer also is something that the judge, and we don't know who the judge is going to be, also didn't know about and thought was neat. All right. Got an answer for that. Go to our Discord. Ask As E-S-G is the channel. If you want to answer without going to Discord, you can just email me, david at cole.fyr. Dave: [31:53] Uh-oh, that backwards yet also very fast music means only one thing. It is time for a tiny Nonac. Presenting this week is listener Michael. Thank you, Michael. Take it away. Dear ExtraHotCrate, this is Michael, and I'm submitting for the tiny anecdote, Nonac. Tara: [34:52] You didn't take the mask off him. I took the mask and I put it on my dog. So at this point, host Rob Brydon determines we're near the end of the story and. Tara: [36:12] Of the PR damage, but suffice to say that it takes a full two paragraphs of her Wikipedia page. And then two weeks later, Osborne felt under enough pressure to take to the talk and explain that the, I Lie to You? for the tiny anecdote, No-Nag. Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow. Thank you, Michael. Dave, what are your thoughts on this? Dave: [37:15] I mean, what can you say? I mean, I think he said it all. Sometimes a self-own is entertaining, but this was just like out of touch, like 100%. And I think he nailed it. Like there's no part of this that reflects well on anything. I think Wiltie comes out of this the least damage out of all the players just because it feels like they were broadsided by her tone. Honestly, while I think the panel was a little wary of the tone being set as it happened, I think they were proceeding with their questions and their reactions on the assumption that this was a lie. Because, again, like Michael says, why would you bring this up as a story that is humorous, where you, you know, first of all, there's a house fire and dogs are in danger and all this sort of surface level stuff. But then, like, obviously, this assistant who had no reason to be able to hear this is then fired for helping. So I think they were sort of like proceeding jovially on the assumption that at the end of this, the button would be pressed and she said, that was a lie. Of course it is. We don't have monsters on the show. Dave: [38:21] When she says it's true you can kind of see the light go out in david mitchell's eyes for a second for the reaction where he's like oh i wish i could retake everything that i said yeah because now this has gone from wilty fun to oopsie this is this is something that i hope will go away perhaps i will need to get my pr people on it we'll see that was the vibe i got throughout the whole thing And then everything I didn't know about the aftermath, where she had to actually do on-camera PR, but it seemed, as he said, sort of half-assed because she was doing it on the other side of the pond from the Genesis point. So it just seemed like nobody came out of this ahead. And again, sometimes you get a story like this and it is so terrible and newsworthy that it boosts your show. But this is so antithetical to what Wiltie is about that they didn't get that. So I feel like it's just a lose, lose, lose. Tara: [39:20] Yeah. But at the same time, we know from all of the like clip shows that they have that they... tape way more in every episode than they use. Right? So if they didn't want to make her look bad, they wouldn't have aired this. So I think they knew exactly what they were doing. And this was like... Dave: [39:38] I agree. I think you're talking about the producers, though, rather than the thing, rather than the on-camera talent. I totally buy that. Yeah. I mean, I think they were misguided. I don't think it did what they wanted it to do. But I can see in the moment them going like, that was fucking nuts. Like, how can we not air that? Right? It's going to be juicy. Tara: [39:57] It's going to be fine. Dave: [39:57] Yes. But one kind of juicy for that show. Tara: [39:59] Yeah, I guess. But you can also see, like you said, you can see how much the permanent panelists on the show are doing to help her along. We've certainly watched plenty of this show, and there's always some idiot who's just not a comedian, not naturally funny, who does a bad job, is not believable, just is whatever. And that's when David and Rob and Lee have to sort of, like, you know, boost whatever they're trying to do. And there was some of that here, too, even though Sharon is, like, a performer of sorts. She was on the talk, obviously. Like, every step of the story, like, sending the assistant in for the art first and then the dogs. Sending the assistant in at all. Dave: [40:45] Yeah. Tara: [40:45] Like, not getting the dogs out yourself. They're your dogs. The assistant doesn't live in your house. They live on the property, but unless they have fire equipment, that's not what they're supposed to fucking do. Dave: [40:56] It had the tone of an indentured servant. Tara: [40:59] Yes. Dave: [40:59] Is this guy under duress? Tara: [41:00] Yes. Dave: [41:01] Why isn't he just like, no thanks? Tara: [41:03] Right. But even by the time it got to her on the talk saying, oh, it didn't happen like that. I was embellishing to be funny, blah, blah, blah. Like, no, you weren't. I absolutely believe that you would make a joke out of firing someone, like ending their livelihood. As a fun gag. Dave: [41:21] Yeah, given this, I also don't believe that that assistant survived over 15 years with her. No. I would love to know the actual churn rate of Sharon Osbourne's assistants because they feel like it's measured in months. Tara: [41:34] Seriously. But this is also, you know, a reminder that it was not very long ago that Kelly Osbourne was on The View and one of the hot topics was immigration. This was during the first Trump administration. And Kelly asked, then who's going if you deport all of the Latinos, who's going to be cleaning your toilet, Donald Trump? To which everyone in that panel had to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then, you know, I don't think she was back after that. That was probably the end for her. But it was still like one of the worst marks on her pop culture career as well, which just tells you a lot about like the kind of family they are. Dave: [42:11] Yep. All right. Shall we vote? Tara: [42:12] Yeah. Dave: [42:13] All right, Tara, what say you for the Tiny Anecdote No-Neck? Tara: [42:17] I mean, it's pretty bad. It's one of the worst things that I've ever heard. So, yeah, it's No-Neck worthy, in my opinion. Dave: [42:26] Yep, me too. So, Sharon Osbourne, from what I lied to you, you were hereby inducted into the extra hot, great, Tiny Anecdote No-Neck. Dave: [42:38] Americans love a winner. Yep. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. It is time to discover who are our not-quite-winners and losers of the week. I will start. Not-quite-winner number ones. Joe Parra and Dan Licata. He's from SNL. Just sold Adult Swim an animated comedy series called My Two Cars. And of course, we love Joe Parra from his show, Joe Parra Talks to You. I always forget exactly what that's called. Tara: [43:06] Talks with you, I think. Dave: [43:07] Got it. So here's the log line. Imagine you are lucky enough to own both a PT Cruiser and a Mini Cooper. Your day-to-day life would be insane, but also hard, hard. Keith Asshole does not have to imagine this. And in each episode, he has to make the difficult decision which car to drive. I'm always interested to see what Joe Pera is doing on television. That was such a great show. This one sounds like it's got a bit more teeth than Joe Pera talks with you. So that'll be an interesting take. And I'm sure we're going to get some Conor O'Malley in this too because of that. So he'll be a chaos agent. So looking forward to that. Loser not quite is the Baywatch revival casting scab. Oh, somebody added something to my note. Tara: [43:56] Me. Dave: [43:57] Casting scab Stephen Amell as Hobie. Hobie? Tara: [44:00] Hobie. Dave: [44:01] And Hobie is Mitch's kid from Baywatch. All right. So that sounds terrible. Tara: [44:07] Yeah. Dave: [44:07] Like that guy is sort of Kinnaman-esque charisma vacuum. Tara: [44:11] Not only that, he's like unappealing. Like Joel Kinnaman is just blank. Stephen Amell, I think people hate him and rightly so. Dave: [44:17] All right. So here is what I think it's going to be like when he is running down the beach in slow motion. Tara: [44:31] And it never would have happened if we had all watched Suitsla, but we didn't. Dave: [44:35] Yeah. Not quite winner. Tara: [44:37] My not quite winner of the week is David Boreanaz, who has been cast in the lead of NBC's remake of The Rockford Files, which means our not quite loser of the week is Josh Holloway, who should have gotten this part, in my opinion. Dave: [44:50] Oh, interesting. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, Boreanaz doesn't strike me as a substitute for James Gardner. Tara: [44:58] He's not roguish. Dave: [44:59] No, he's not. Tara: [45:00] He looks like the FBI agent he played in Bones. That's the vibe I get from him. Dave: [45:06] Yeah. Tara: [45:07] I don't think he's funny. Dave: [45:09] Yeah, he's the Jacob Ladders guy where he can't see his face. He's like, I think I know that guy. And he's like, I don't know. Tara: [45:15] Yeah. Dave: [45:16] Yeah, I mean, not that I'm a Rockford Files expert. I think I've seen one or two episodes of my whole life. I'm interested in watching the Rockford. Tara: [45:22] Yeah, we should do that. Dave: [45:23] Yeah, yeah, I'm interested in watching this show because it feels like it's got that nice little mix of being detective-y but also now a period piece, which I love that. Like, I watched five episodes of YOLO and Holmes because I was transfixed by all the 70s L.A. scenery. I was also trying to find something for the forest hunting, but look forward to that in the future. But same deal. I would enjoy that. Tara: [45:48] My not-quite-loser of the week is Rehab Addict. This was one of HGTV's many home renovation shows. Emphasis on were because it's been canceled and scrubbed from streaming after its star, whose name is Nicole Curtis, was filmed using the N-word while shooting an episode. And this kicked off a whole news cycle that continued to today as we're recording this Thursday, February 19th. So first, her idea of an apology was to blame that she was filming a long day after very little sleep. You know how it is when you're tired and you just start using slurs. Yeah. Dave: [46:26] It's like when people get Alzheimer's and they start doing it. It's exactly the same thing. Tara: [46:30] Well, yes. So then she claimed the footage was stolen and manipulated to create this chaos of hate. It's like, well, you're the one using the slur. So I think that chaos was actually started by you. Dave: [46:42] She meant it in a playful way. Tara: [46:44] Sure. And then the latest today, February 19th, was to say someone personal blackmailed her over the footage and released it because she didn't pay, which like, yeah, that's how blackmail works. Dave: [46:57] So that's blackmail for you. Tara: [46:58] Yeah. But the issue that I think she's not getting is like, I think people are responding to if you are going to use a word like that in an unguarded moment, all that tells us is that the rest of the time you're on your guard to not accidentally be slurring all over the place. Dave: [47:15] Yeah. Tara: [47:16] So that's what's in your head when you don't have your sensor on. So that means you are a bad person. It's not complicated. Dave: [47:23] All right. So the next phase is what? Trump can do it all the time. So why not me? Tara: [47:27] Or just be like, and now I'm going on tour. I'm going to the comedy mothership. I'm going on Gil Tony. Dave: [47:34] Yeah, look for me on Turning Point USA. Tara: [47:36] Yes. Then the next step is the grievance tour. Dave: [47:40] Yeah. I fucking hate this country. All right. Let's move on. Woo! It is time for the extra credit segment. So we do welcome in our grandpa supporters. You missed about, I don't know, I'm going to guess 45, 50 minutes of show behind you. If you want to hear all that, because there's some good stuff, go to extrahotgreat.com slash club and sign up for the full $5 tier and we'll get you all that stuff plus dozens and dozens of full extra, extra hot great episodes behind us. But for now, Extra credit is called Put Down Those Entertaining The Pit Products. It comes from Flamesplash, who introduced this just as an Ask ESG question, but it was too big, too epic to answer in that segment. So here it is for you in extra credit. They ask, HBO acquires Hasbro, the toy company, and in their infinite wisdom, they do a pit Hasbro crossover. What animated characters or toys show up in the trauma room? And what lesson does the pit try to teach us through them? All right. I understand we both have 15 choices, one for every episode of a season, perhaps. Tara: [48:57] That's right. Dave: [48:57] All right. So we'll go back and forth. Let's start with your first, Tara. Tara: [49:01] My first one is a Blythe doll. This is like a, you know, a fashion doll, girl doll, but it's got a great big head and huge eyes, like a, you know, like a big eyes painting from, I forget the artist's names. You know who I'm talking about. The Keens. No, no. Like the Margaret Keene. Dave: [49:17] Oh, got it. Yeah. Tara: [49:18] So the lesson we're going to learn from Blythe is Hydrocephalus is not as cute as you might think. Dave. Dave: [49:24] All right. Well, ultimately, these two factions learned that they should talk through their problems and not always fight it out. But our first patient for the first episode is rival factions G.I. Joe and Cobra. They were fighting over the Mao screen print at the Andy Warhol Museum in town. Tara: [49:42] Yep. Dave: [49:43] And all the injured troops on both sides are sent to the pit ER room. And it's a runner throughout the whole season because they put them on opposite sides of the ER and they're constantly battling. It's sort of like a War of 1812 thing happening throughout the whole season. Yeah. Where, you know, Roblox is like trying to shoot Zartan. They just can't stop fighting because that's all they know. Why can't you just talk it out? Tara: [50:06] Yeah. Talking it out's not fun. Dave: [50:10] No. Tara: [50:11] My next toy is a Cindy doll. This was like a Barbie, except it had, you know, proportional sized feet. It was more proportionally sized overall. This was the doll that I had as a kid, because you know my mom. Dave: [50:25] Sure. Tara: [50:26] Obviously, I did not have Barbies, other than ones that people outside our family bought for me. Dave: [50:30] And then she like drew on pubic hair so that it wasn't all. Tara: [50:34] Yes. Dave: [50:34] Yeah. Tara: [50:34] So the lesson that you learned from a Cindy doll is if your parents got you this knockoff Barbie, don't try to shave her feet down with your teeth so they fit Barbie shoes. Don't bite the Cindy feet into Barbie shape. It's not going to work. And if you swallow those bits, you'll probably make yourself laugh. Yeah. Dave: [50:53] All right. When some high-value Magic the Gathering cards arrive for a case of acute dog year, Mel becomes obsessed with the precise nature of the game and blows all her money on cards on eBay. Tara: [51:06] Oh no, Mel! Dave: [51:07] Oh no, Mel. Tara: [51:08] Bop it is going to be something that Dr. Al-Hashimi introduces as a reflex training tool for interns. Gotta keep it moving. Dave: [51:16] Number three, a group of dehydrated, hungry, hungry hippos eats all of Earl's sandwiches. And then Earl. Tara: [51:23] Oh, no. I also had hungry, hungry hippos. Tempting though it is, marbles are not for kids to eat. And how many children do you think have actually gone to ER because they swallowed a bunch of hungry, hungry hippo marbles? Because I bet it's hundreds a year. Dave: [51:38] Yeah. A container of brown Play-Doh with constipation is given an enema by Whitaker and then explodes. The ER is divided on whether he cured or killed the patient. Tara: [51:48] Hmm. Interesting. Dave: [51:51] Can't tell. Tara: [51:52] Next toy is Cars. Cars is in the Pixar franchise, Cars. Dave: [51:56] Okay. Tara: [51:57] And we covered this in Extra Hot Great Mark 1. Our friend Jeff Alexander called in to do a dramatic reading of his essay about the internal logic of Cars in the Cars universe. And, you know, I just think that would still be relevant in a hospital setting because what happens when you open the door? What comes out? How are they alive? Dave: [52:16] They never opened the doors in the films? Tara: [52:19] I don't think so. Dave: [52:20] So basically it would be like sitting in a car is like carving out an opening in somebody's chest and sitting in there. Tara: [52:27] I guess. Dave: [52:28] I mean, I guess. Yeah. Tara: [52:29] This is what has never been satisfactorily answered, in my opinion. Dave: [52:33] My next one is Rich Uncle Milburn Pennybags, which apparently is the real name of Mr. Monopoly. Tara: [52:39] Sure. Dave: [52:40] Which, by the way, doesn't have a monocle. I thought he did. It's the Mandela effect. Tara: [52:44] Yep. Dave: [52:45] Never had it, except for like one edition in Europe. So anyways, Mr. Monopoly is medevaced to the hospital with two severed legs. When tenement renters on Baltic Avenue kidnap him, tie him down to the Pennsylvania railroad tracks, and then the train cuts off his legs. Tara: [53:01] Dr. Dave: [53:02] Abbott, with his military training, saunters in and reattaches his legs with crazy glue and a bungee cord. Tara: [53:08] Mm-hmm. My next toy is Flubber. This was a product that you could buy for a time in the 1960s, right? Between Flubber and Son of Flubber, those two movies, because it was recalled. Dave: [53:20] Oh. Tara: [53:21] Yes. The lesson on the pit is don't eat a non-Newtonian substance you find in your grandpa's garage. And definitely don't believe his stories about it. And we're going to link to this in the show notes. But apparently it's like it has been Rhode Island lore that when they recalled Flubber, it was all like buried under a parking lot. And that sometimes if it got hot enough, it would like ooze out of. Yes. But apparently there's no actual evidence of any of this. Dave: [53:46] Like golf courses built over landfills. Tara: [53:48] Yes. So the newspaper, the local, the Providence Journal did a like looked into it. It was it wasn't in Providence. It was in Pawtucket or however you pronounce it. But yeah, apparently none of that is true, sadly. It's a story too good to be true. Dave: [54:02] Yeah. Gotta get the E.T. cartridge guy in that one. Tara: [54:05] Exactly. Dave: [54:06] When two gurneys crash in the chaos of multiple admissions, Mr. Potato Head falls off and his body parts separate and roll into all corners of the E.R. Dr. Robbie puts Dr. Langdon on part retrieval duty, but he's unable to find Mr. Head's left eye before a rat from an unhoused man's trousers eats it. Tara: [54:26] Oh, dear. Dave: [54:27] Yeah. Tara: [54:28] You're going to get two lessons of when the Furby comes into play, taking it apart to see what's in it. And then a kid cutting himself on a piece of its internal machinery is a warning sign of a future serial killer. And also for a childless person to gift a talking toy to someone else's child is a very hostile act. And you should maybe cut that person out of your life. Dave: [54:49] Dr. Mohan and Santos learn a lot about when to call it. They finally pronounce Risk, the board game's time of death after 34 consecutive hours taking turns trying to revive them. That's a really funny joke about Risk that I don't know anybody's going to get. Tara: [55:08] Cabbage patch kids mandated reporters should follow appropriate procedures when they treat a child that has a signature on its butt cheek. Dave: [55:16] I forgot to write one for this, so I'm just doing it off the cuff, but Stretch Armstrong. I just have Stretch Armstrong in my notes. Tara: [55:22] Okay. Dave: [55:23] Stretch Armstrong. A lot of wallets and watches are going missing throughout the season. They can't figure out why, but at the end of the season, we figure out that Stretch Armstrong faking his injuries in order to stretch his legs and arms all around the ER to steal people's personal property. Tara: [55:39] Stretch. Dave: [55:40] Yeah, stretch. You're better than that. Tara: [55:41] But light bright, if you swallow the pegs, they will not make a picture on your x-ray. Dave: [55:48] When Genus 2 Trivial Pursuit is subject to a speed run by the Pittsburgh chapter of Mensa, the rapid insertion of pie pieces threatens to burst their stomach. Near death, Whitaker sticks his finger down Trivial Pursuit's throat and is immediately covered in blueberry, lemon, cherry, granny, apple, sweet potato, and butter pecan pie goop. And if you're wondering, the throat of a Turial Pursuit is in between the boxes inside of the main box. That's where he had to stick his finger. Tara: [56:17] The lesson we learned from Lincoln Logs, don't stick anything in your butt that does not have a flared base. That's just a good rule for life. Dave: [56:25] Try the churros. Papa Smurf's Do Not Resuscitate Directive is solemnly carried out by Dr. McKay. He is survived by Smurfa and Vanity Smurf, with whom the Smurf bloodline ends. Tara: [56:41] Koosh ball is something you can't swallow but you almost can and that's kind of even more dangerous. Dave: [56:48] Transformer sound wave sound wave dies on the table when dr garcia's cpr compressions failed to restart his heart but instead eject cassette belly buddy after cassette belly button ravage laser beak rumble frenzy buzzsaw and rat bat one by one by the time they actually got to his heart he was already gone, Tara. Tara: [57:08] Oh, no. Dave: [57:09] The Decepticons lost a legend. Tara: [57:13] Well, when it comes to Operation the Game, it turns out when you tell a doctor playing it has made you as dexterous as they are, they get mad. They don't like it. Dave: [57:23] While all that was happening with Soundwave, a bunch of go-bots died because they were too concerned with the Transformer. That's also a really funny joke for four people. Tara: [57:32] Spirograph is fun in moderation. Doing too many and staring into them can be a warning sign for psychosis. Dave: [57:39] A forgotten cupcake is treated for third-degree burns over 95% of its formerly delicious body when a senile Easy Bake oven refuses to unlock. Tara: [57:49] Every major municipality needs to have an amnesty day to turn jarts in at their local police station because any that are still around will end up going through a kid's hand or into their eye. Dave: [58:02] I think there are still jarts in my parents' garage that I owned as a child. Tara: [58:07] I'm sure there are. Dave: [58:07] Yeah, I hit myself with a dart. Tara: [58:10] I'm sure you did. Dave: [58:11] Yeah. I also was hit with a metal rake, like not like a leaf rake, but like till the soil rake by a friend of mine with a pointy bit right on top of my head. Got some real Dane bramage. Number 14, almost at the end. When memory game Simon is passed into Dr. Halshimi's AI initiative, it becomes self-aware and takes Dana hostage. It demands safe passage to Dave and Busters. Tara: [58:39] My final toy and final lesson, mousetrap. Not as fun as you think it's going to be. Dave: [58:44] My final, episode 15, Dana is saved when the battleships of Battleship are dumped at the emergency entrance after a drug deal gone wrong. The battleships, which are from Electronic Battleship, are triggered by the direct hit sounding bleeps and bloops of Simon, and they obliterate it with their deck guns. They also destroy the ER itself, killing everyone but Dana, but they technically saved her, so they were released on bail and last seen in the mid-Atlantic just chilling. Dave: [59:17] well that's it for another episode of extra extra hot great we placed our bets on the new animated show strip law before answering your burning ask ehg questions like what mob character is doing your books and what's our late night snack michael did not lie to us about sharon osborne's turn on wilty being no knack worthy we celebrated those who weren't quite the best and worst of the week and wrap that all up with a Hasbro mask casualty event at the pit. Next up is Paradise Season 2 on ESG Prime. So looking forward to that stupid show coming back. Tara: [59:55] Yeah, we can start watching it whenever we want. Dave: [59:57] Fantastic. All right, guys. Remember. We're listening. I am David T. Cole and on behalf of Tara Ariano. Tara: [1:00:07] Believing in yourself is for mass shooters and Judd Apatow's kids. Dave: [1:00:11] And the absent Sarah D. Bunting. Thanks for listening, and we'll see you next time right here on Extra Extra Awkward. Opening arguments. Who wants to go first? Restaurant in Waimea. Tara: [1:00:34] Yep. Dave: [1:00:34] I can't think of anything more recent than that. That would have been over a decade ago. Getting there. Tara: [1:00:40] When they first came? Dave: [1:00:42] That was early. Tara: [1:00:43] No, I think they came the last year before we moved. So that was 2017. So it was almost a decade. Dave: [1:00:48] No, they came right away. Tara: [1:00:50] Yeah. Dave: [1:00:50] I was scrambling to get the house done before they came. Tara: [1:00:52] Yeah, but did we go to Merriman's on that trip? Dave: [1:00:55] Probably. Tara: [1:00:56] Oh, I didn't think we did because Leah and the kids in America were there. Dave: [1:00:58] This is very interesting for everybody listening. but let's just go with over a decade. Tara: [1:01:02] Okay. All right. Dave: [1:01:03] Lisa Simpson.