Did We Love Love Story?

Clip: [0:06] Are some of the things that New Yorkers only dream about. But some New Yorkers aren't allowed to talk. Get the fuck out of the way, asshole! Dave: [0:18] This is the Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 602 for the week of February 16th, 2026. I am sexy doormat David T. Cole, and I'm here with sweater folder Tara Ariano. Tara: [0:36] I miss them all. Dave: [0:37] And shirtless touch football aficionado Jessica Morgan. Jessica: [0:40] Maybe we can blow some lines on my dad's inaugural address. Tara: [0:51] Welcome to Extra Hot Great for another week. Sarah is still out with family. We hope to welcome her back very soon. But in the meantime, we have a guest. She is an author, blogger, and newsletterer you've heard with us many times before. It's Jessica Morgan. Dave: [1:07] Welcome back, Jessica. Jessica: [1:09] Thank you. Thank you for having me back. Tara: [1:12] I think I very quietly called you Jek-sica. Jessica: [1:14] I'm sorry. Dave: [1:16] I actually think I added a syllable in the name, too, when I tripped up on Yay Button. So everybody, let's wait, Tara, let's do it properly. Three, two, one, Jessica. Tara: [1:25] Oh, no, I screwed it up again. Welcome, Jessica. Jessica: [1:28] Thank you. You can call me whatever you want. Tara: [1:30] We are here to talk about love story, colon, John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn Bissett. In 1992, Carolyn, Sarah Pidgeon, is an effortlessly chic staffer at Calvin Klein's showroom in New York, and John, Paul Anthony Kelly, works at the New York DA's office, even though he's failed the bar exam twice. Oh, and he's also the only son of an assassinated president and his world-famous wife. When Calvin, Alessandro Nivola, introduces Carolyn and John at a fundraiser, sparks fly immediately and a dinner date long afterward goes well. But John's ex, Daryl Hannah, Dree Hemingway, is still in the picture and how he would describe their relationship probably doesn't align with how the New York Post frames it on the front page. Will Carolyn and John's love story capital L capital S end before it's even begun? Yes, kind of. But if you were alive in the 90s, you know what happened next and what happened seven years after that first meeting. Tara: [2:30] Creator Connor Hines, whose previous TV experience was writing on Space Force, based the show on Elizabeth Beller's biography, Once Upon a Time, The Captivating Life of Carolyn Bessette Kennedy. The show is executive produced by Ryan Murphy, so why this isn't still called American Love Story like it was when it was first announced is a mystery to me. The first three episodes aired on FX February 12th. We got access to the first eight of nine in the season, but we will be careful about spoilers other than historical events. but are already spoiled by history. Let's do the Chen check-in. Jessica, should our listeners watch Love Story? Jessica: [3:07] I really thought about this a lot. I'm giving it a qualified no. Tara: [3:11] Interesting. Dave? Dave: [3:12] While watching this, I realized something, that Ryan Murphy is the Taco Bell of television. And I appreciate how much he can do with that formula. This show, not for me, I found the show lacking spark. So I'm also going to go on the no side of it. Tara: [3:28] Okay. It's a yes for me. I kind of love it way more than I thought I would. So let's get into it. Jessica, what are your qualifications for your qualified no? Jessica: [3:37] I really, really went back and forth on this. I think aspects of it are excellent. I think the love story works really well. I was very surprised. Let me put it this way. The acting from everyone except Naomi Watts, I think, is excellent. Ultimately, it made me really sad. Everyone on this show died before their time, basically. John and Carolyn are dead. John's best friend, Anthony, is dead. Jackie Kennedy is dead. Dave: [4:03] Hank. Jessica: [4:03] The dog dies. God. I mean, I guess Daryl Hannah's alive, but she's annoying in this. Dave: [4:11] We hate her. Jessica: [4:12] It really fucking bummed me out, to be totally honest with you. And I also think that Ryan Murphy has a weird fixation on... He gets really into the deathbed moments of powerful women in a way that I find totally grotesque. Tara: [4:30] Wow. Jessica: [4:31] He just did this to Babe Paley, also with Naomi Watts, in a much better performance. Now he's doing it with Jackie Kennedy, where he's like full face close up as these people die. And I don't have an issue with like making a story about real people. But I'm like, this is grotesque to me. Like you are so up their faces as they're literally taking their last breath. Like have a little respect. I just I just it just the way he treated Jackie dying grossed me out. I hated it. And like, I understand it has to be part of the show because it's it's so affects the drama. I'm not saying he shouldn't cover the fact that she died. But like the way they chose to do it on the back of the way they chose to handle Babe Paley's death and feud, I thought is just like, there is something going on here that he needs to talk to his therapist about. I don't know what's that. It. really grosses me out. Dave: [5:17] Would it be worse if they did a CSI thing inside of their brain as their brain finally shuts off? Jessica: [5:22] No, that at least should be so artistic. And I'd be like, this is weird, but like, I get where you're going. Dave: [5:26] Some real David Lynch shit happening here. Jessica: [5:28] But yeah, exactly. But it was hard for me because I do think the romance stuff is really good in a way that I did not expect it to be. Tara: [5:34] Yeah, I did think they spent more time with Jackie than they needed to with her death. And especially they foreshadow it so much like she's smoking at the table in the first episode when people are still eating, by the way, which I hope she didn't really do in real life. Gross. Jessica: [5:49] We know she dies. Tara: [5:51] Yeah. Jessica: [5:51] Yeah. They have her collapse like multiple times at the end where she's like dancing around a camelot. This is very on the nose. Like what are you doing? I thought Naomi Watts's accent. Like I know people want to do the Jackie voice and it's very specific. And I feel like I spent a lot of time thinking like, is this voice right? Is that right? Maybe it's right. It's kind of right that it just took me out of it. Like I thought all the Jackie stuff was just ghoulish. I didn't, I didn't like it. I just gave me the creeps. Tara: [6:20] Yeah. So in the second episode, Calvin Klein's wife, Kelly, tells Carolyn that Calvin has been very sanctimonious since getting out of rehab, including lecturing her about drinking Diet Coke. Were you okay, Jessica? Jessica: [6:32] Leave me alone, Calvin Klein. I will say I thought watching this made me think like I kind of miss the 90s. I had like a whole rant to my husband about how I feel like the 90s are the best decade. Tara: [6:43] Yes. Jessica: [6:44] And we didn't appreciate it while we were there. Tara: [6:45] Yes. Jessica: [6:46] And actually, you guys, I think, will appreciate this. This is like the most 90s thing I could tell you, which is that I clearly remember John and Carolyn's plane going down. Tara: [6:54] Me too. Jessica: [6:54] Because I heard about it. I was listening to a news story about it on the radio, on my car radio, as I was driving to watch the Blair Witch Project on its opening weekend. Like, is there a more 1999 statement than this? Dave: [7:07] Did you get lost and had to pull out your Thomas map guide from the backseat using your winch? Jessica: [7:13] In the backside, for sure. Of course. For sure I had one in the backseat of my car. Dave: [7:16] Yeah. Oh, no, my Tamagotchi died again. Jessica: [7:19] Yeah, exactly. Seriously. I do love all the 90s stuff. I would love to see a nighttime drama set at Calvin Klein in the 90s. All that stuff I love. The music is good. I think they worked out the clothing issues, from what I could tell, more or less. As old as it makes me feel, I'm ready for a 90s period piece, which I guess this is, in a way that really works. I love the Calvin Klein stuff. I think it's really fun. Yeah. Tara: [7:46] And Alessandro Nivola, I wasn't sure about him, but I think he's pretty good. Jessica: [7:50] I agree. I think he's excellent. I think all the Calvin Klein stuff is fun. Tara: [7:54] But I will say, like, I saw a promo last week that Evan Ross Katz is hosting the show's official podcast. And I was like, come on. And looked him up. He was born in 1989. And then I looked up the guy who created this show, and he was born in 1988. Jessica: [8:09] This upsets me. Tara: [8:10] These children are not qualified to tell our story. Jessica: [8:14] No. You don't even go here. Tara: [8:16] Right. Jessica: [8:16] Exactly. Yeah, it is. Tara: [8:18] Like, they don't even know what magazines are. Every shot of like when they go to a newsstand and there's like, it feels like 300 different magazines at any random corner in New York. It's like we never, like you said, we didn't know how good we had it until we lost it. Jessica: [8:31] You could smoke. I didn't even smoke, but you could smoke anywhere you wanted and nobody like made a big deal about it. Tara: [8:36] Yeah. Jessica: [8:37] And, you know, I will say like, despite the fact that I just really bitched about Ryan Murphy's psychological problems, he is good at this period stuff in a way that I find it. obviously oj was the the like i think his high point there as someone who was living in los angeles at that time period he nailed it in a way that like i've literally never seen before and he is really good at that i think he's really good at like space and time his use of lighting is always really good like this show is beautifully lit so you know this is why i said i had a qualified no i think aspects of it are really good and i love the cowan klein stuff i think it's also like seeing all the them Picking out, like, Carolyn picks Kate Moss from obscurity to be the Calvin Klein underwear model is really fun. Dave: [9:16] Is it like Forrest Gump, where it's like, here's this person you've never really seen or considered before, and they're changing history? Tara: [9:22] Well, I mean, the fact that it's based on a biography of her, I feel like the details of her life, especially her work life, are probably better known because people are still alive who worked with her, you know? Dave: [9:33] But I've forgotten about the backwards baseball cap slash let's turn this into a real hat Kangol lines. that. Tara: [9:40] And yeah the newsboy cap was the other one and the wallet chain so many shots of him with a fucking wallet chain it was like wow that's like i know everything it was good. Dave: [9:48] On the wallet change stuff i went to one lullapalooza in the 90s it was the year sonic youth and hole were headlining, amazing i remember the blind to get in and they were taking everybody's wallet chains because the chains were so you had to like either rip off the chain because of weapon and so many people just taking out everything out of the wallet and sticking it in their pockets and then throwing away the wallet like that. Jessica: [10:13] I mean, we wore a lot of cargo pants then. So you did have pockets available to you. So that's good. Tara: [10:18] And even if they weren't cargo pants, they were just big. Dave: [10:20] Can we bring back cargo pants? Like make them so we don't look like total idiots if we wear them? Tara: [10:25] You have a very chic pair of cargo pants that I bought from Banana Republic like last year. Dave: [10:30] I know, but when I go aside, they threw a poop at me. Get out of here. Jessica: [10:36] Wow. I'm just saying, as a society. Dave: [10:39] Let's bring cargo pants back. I don't have the juice to do it alone. Jessica: [10:42] I think they're coming back. Just hold tight. I think you're going to be fine. I will say, I was sort of... I think the actor who plays JFK Jr. does look a lot like him. Tara: [10:52] He does. Jessica: [10:53] And when he showed up in some of these wardrobe choices, I did have that moment where I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot JFK Jr. looked like an idiot to have the time in those hats. Yeah. You die young and people forget you look like an idiot half the time. It's true. So that's something. Tara: [11:08] Or riding his bike around so self-consciously leaving it places so it can get stolen. And this is a minor spoiler for episode four, which I watched ahead just one. A hypercolor t-shirt does make an appearance. Dave: [11:20] Oh, fantastic. Jessica: [11:21] Oh, yes. Okay. All right. Now I do think people should watch it. I've changed my vote. Watch it till the hypercolor. Dave: [11:27] Is it worked into the love story? Like somebody's having feelings and their t-shirt blooms? Tara: [11:32] I wish. But no, it isn't a very pivotal scene, though. Dave: [11:36] Okay. Tara: [11:36] Amazingly enough. Jessica: [11:37] God, now I'm going to have to watch this to get to the hyper color. Wow. That is a blast from the past there. Dave: [11:43] I don't watch a lot of Ryan Murphy shows of this ilk. Tara: [11:46] Except when we make you. Dave: [11:48] Oh, I just watched the, you know, now the firefighters are in space and stuff. Tara: [11:52] Oh yeah. 9-1-1. Jessica: [11:54] Well, yeah. Dave: [11:55] But I was surprised about how much of this budget probably went into the jukebox. Because holy cow, just like back to back songs. There's barely a moment in this show where they're not putting out top 10 hits of the era. Wow, that's a lot of scratch. Tara: [12:12] Yeah, I've been recapping it for Decider, and we'll link it to it in the show notes. But I've been tracking all of the needle drops in case someone wants to make their own playlist. Because it is a lot of really great songs. Dave: [12:23] It's a lot of great songs, but some of them are chosen for the dialogue in that moment, which always bugs me. You can always tell when they got a lazy music director. It's like, well, what's going on here? uh well we got two people dating what kind of people we got a man and a woman all right man woman oh look peter gabriel's blood of eden the man and the woman the woman in the man the man and like what the hell and then the other one was um a woman's work by kate bush a song about childbirth and the dude's just like i don't know if my wife's gonna make it through this and it was like for their first date or something like that it's like oh come on guys read just read the lyric sheet before i think that's the moment. Tara: [12:57] When they meet so it's even less appropriate. Dave: [12:59] But yeah Yeah. Tara: [13:01] That said, when you open an episode and the cold open is My Love and You're Never Gonna Get It by En Vogue for a montage of her being mad, refusing his roses. Like, yes, this is what the song was made for. Jessica: [13:14] That's the episode where I was like, oh, maybe I do want to watch this. Like, oh, that was good. That was a good that was a good open. Yeah, that part is good. The romance stuff is great. Tara: [13:23] It is. And the parts of it that are true, like that she was dating, sort of seeing this other guy who looked so much like John F. Jessica: [13:30] Kennedy Jr. Tara: [13:32] And then she made him famous, too. You get to see her backup when Marky Mark gets fired from the campaign. The model that she's been seeing, she gets him the replacement. And then when he's on the billboard, you know, by episode four, again, minor spoiler, He's in a much nicer apartment than when he was just a cater waiter at Kelly Cline's Pools Coffee Table book party. Jessica: [13:54] I remember that book. I also like to say, because we were sentient adults in 1999 or whatever year that is. Tara: [14:00] We were reading magazines that it was in every fucking Condé Nast magazine there was. They were covering that book. Jessica: [14:08] I will say I did enjoy how much the show hates Marky Mark because I also hate Marky Mark. So I really appreciated that. I mean, Marky Mark sucks, so it makes sense. Tara: [14:18] Mm-hmm. Well, I was able to get apparently the last affordable copy of George Magazine's premier issue on eBay. There are copies that are selling for $1,776. Jessica: [14:32] Oh, classy. Yeah, sure. I get it. Tara: [14:35] But apparently, like, older issues are really hard to get because of all the QAnon people that believe in the JFK Jr. conspiracy theory. So they have, like, bought old issues and are, like, mining them for clues. I'm not kidding. This is true. Dave: [14:49] I like that guy that wrote the children's book with the location of the treasure nobody's found. It's like that. He's going to put in clues to his eventual reappearance. Tara: [14:57] Yeah. Dave: [14:58] His second coming. Wow. Jessica: [14:59] Embarrassing. This is so unserious. This is a get a grip, you guys. Tara: [15:03] But so is the magazine kind of like the cover. The big marquee story is a Q&A where John F. Kennedy Jr. interviews George Wallace, not the comic, the like segregationist governor when he's. Jessica: [15:16] Oh, my God. Tara: [15:17] Basically at death's door. Jessica: [15:18] John. Tara: [15:19] Like, why are you platforming this guy? In the editor's letter, it's like, we're postpartisan. It's like, oh, okay, you're just idiots. Jessica: [15:26] Are you? Okay, you're a Kennedy. You're not postpartisan. Give me a break. Tara: [15:30] Seriously. Jessica: [15:31] I mean, talk to your uncle or cousin, whoever RFK Jr. would be cousin. But still. That's crazy. Tara: [15:37] I know. These are the things you find out when you research this show. Dave: [15:42] You know what else was crazy? How closely the touch football scene was choreographed, like the 30 Rock version of it where Jack Donaghy has to go and beat his personal version of the Kennedys out wherever. Tara: [15:53] Yeah. So of the principles, Carolyn is the one we know the least. There's apparently only like one very short clip of her even talking anywhere on the internet. So Sarah Pidgeon, who plays her, had, you know, her work cut out of her to bring her to life, but also sort of had like a lot of choices she could make. I thought she was really good. I did think it was funny when I read that the production didn't think that she could do it until her manager sent them a picture of her with her hair Photoshop blonde because she's a brunette in real life. And then they were like, oh, OK. because I think she looks a lot like her, but she also like the hair does contribute to the performance. Like there's a lot of hairography that I think like indicates her inner life. What did you think of her performance? Jessica: [16:35] I think she's excellent. I was surprised. I didn't have any expectations. Like I will say generally, you know, all my Ryan Murphy issues aside, his shows usually are very well acted. So I wasn't that concerned about it. I was surprised by how good I thought she was. I think she's excellent. She has a few tics that weirdly remind me of Alicia Silverstone. Tara: [16:55] Hmm. Jessica: [16:56] Interesting. Does a lip bite that Alicia Silverstone does is Cher Horwitz a lot in a way that, so I mean, also very 90s. But other than that, I thought she was excellent. I think it's well acted other than Naomi Watts, who I think is terrible. I loved her in Feud. I think she's a great actress. I think she's just horrible in this. Tara: [17:13] Well, she has the hardest job because Jackie's the character that we know the most from real life. Obviously. In the opening scene, which is sort of a, you know, flash forward to the closing scene, we see carolyn getting a manicure and she's originally getting her very sensibly short nails i approve of that painted red and then changes her mind and said this won't be good for where i'm going let's do something safe let's do nude is it more depressing to think that she died with nude boring nude nails i. Jessica: [17:42] Just think the whole thing is depressing like. Tara: [17:44] It's just really sad yeah i. Jessica: [17:46] I think this is why i can't do it like it's just it's just too sad for me. Tara: [17:50] Yeah. I mean, that's kind of the story of the 90s. It's like there's a lot of potentialities where a lot of different futures could have happened and then they didn't. We ended up where we are. Dave: [18:00] It was truly our sliding doors decade. Tara: [18:02] It really was. Jessica: [18:04] I mean, I think the 2000 election is it. Tara: [18:07] For sure. I agree. Jessica: [18:09] And we fucked it up. So congrats, America. Now look at us. Dave: [18:12] Way to go, Florida. Tara: [18:13] Okay, let's not leave it on that note. Let's leave it on. If you want the 90s nostalgia, love stories here for you. Jessica: [18:20] You will pull out your black turtleneck. I am, in fact, currently wearing a black turtleneck. Tara: [18:23] And you look effortlessly chic. Jessica: [18:25] Just like Carolyn did. Thank you. Exactly. That's exactly true. Dave: [18:33] Got a lot of shows. All right, it is time to go around the dial. First up is with Tara. Tara. Tara: [18:42] Yes, I am watching season two of Going Dutch. Dutch boy, he works. Dave: [18:47] Hard for your money. Tara: [18:49] Thank you. This is a Fox sitcom Dave loves to say is my favorite show. Dave: [18:54] It is. Tara: [18:55] It's not, but I like it. Dennis Leary plays Patrick Quinn, an army colonel who is such a terrible, work-obsessed, absent father that his grown-up daughter, Maggie Taylor Mizziak, an army captain, Went no contact with him for years, and he did not notice. As punishment for some work stuff, doesn't matter, by the general who hates him, played by Joe Morton, Colonel Quinn is sent to run the non-combat base in the Netherlands that Maggie has turned into a world-renowned center of laundry, cheese, and bowling. As they spend more time together, the Quinns develop a little grudging respect for each other that might eventually turn into love. There's nothing particularly groundbreaking about this show. It is very joke-dense. It's stupid in the best way. A recent episode was about a protest at the base by its Gen Z-aged soldiers after Colonel Quinn's bans Shrek from movie night. Tara: [19:47] Relationships grow and progress at the slowest possible pace, including between Colonel Quinn's ex-o, Major Shaw, played by Danny Pudi, who was in a mutual flirtation with Maggie in season one until his estranged wife decided she wanted to reconcile. Has fun guest stars. Lisa Edelstein played Maggie's mother, obviously Colonel Quinn's ex-wife, in season one. Parker Young from Enlisted showed up as a CIA agent in a situationship with Maggie and... The latest episode introduced the great Kristen Johnston as a Canadian general, General Martin, who is stationed at a nearby NATO base. She enters into a Friends with Benefits relationship with Colonel Quinn and becomes Maggie's mentor. I would love Johnston under any circumstances. So the fact that the first episode establishes that she is from Saskatoon and has a scar on her arm from a bar fight in Moose Jaw is just gravy for me. Given that Joel McHale stars in the show's lead-in and has a prior connection to Danny Pudi via community, I'm sure McHale is going to show up here at some point, so you may need to get on board with the show before he arrives and taints it for you. But if you like shows that are fun and dumb and that generally makes their most jingoistic American character look like an idiot, it might be for you. It definitely is for me. You watched the Shrek episode. Dave, anything to happen that changed your mind about it? Dave: [21:02] I honestly don't get this for you. it's so perfectly average and fine. It is like so oatmeal. Tara: [21:12] I think it's better than you give it credit for. Dave: [21:15] Okay. It is Hill Country Farms level oatmeal from H-E-B. Tara: [21:20] All right. For my plug, James Van Der Beek, of course, I'm sure everyone saw, died last week at age 48. I wrote a remembrance of him at Decider and I will link that in the show notes. Dave: [21:34] All right jessica you got a show here that sounds like it's either american reality or londoners fleeing the city what do you got. Jessica: [21:42] I mean, the truth is, I do love both of those things. And now I kind of wish it was Londoners fleeing the city because I want to watch that. Dave: [21:47] It's kind of like the traitors if you put both of those things together. Jessica: [21:50] I think. Sure. Yeah. But no, as usual, once again, I'm here to recommend truly lowbrow entertainment. And I do not apologize for that. I don't believe in a guilty pleasure. And I'd also like to point out that I recommended the country music television version of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleader show for like years and years before Netflix and everyone else got on board. I was an early adapter. People need to follow my lead here. Tara: [22:14] Tastemaker. Jessica: [22:15] Yeah, thank you. This time I'm here to recommend the Bravo reality show Summer House, which is in its 10th season, but which started up again just last week. The conceit here is very simple. If you're unaware, a bunch of people have a share house in the Hamptons. Drama ensues. And then because it's been on so long and the core cast has, it hasn't changed that much. We've gone through a lot with these people. Like two of them fell in love. They got engaged. Then one of them decided he didn't want to marry her and he broke off the engagement on camera. And now she's had a baby with another man. That all happened two years ago. dramatic. Yeah. Now that guy's showing up wearing like a huge hat. I don't know why he's like a hat guy now. Jessica: [22:52] So the previous season to this one was a little shaky because they have been trying to introduce some new young cast members and they don't always gel. But this season has gotten off to a promising start. They have two new girls who are really funny so far. They had a big Fourth of July party and one of them spent the whole time wearing a hat that made her look like an ear of corn, which I thought was cute. There's a lot of hat stuff going on this year. And most interestingly, though, this whole season seems to be focusing on Kyle and Amanda. This is a couple whose courtship, engagement, and marriage have all happened on the show. Now it appears their divorce is happening. They have announced they're getting divorced. From the start, them getting married seemed like a very bad idea. She's young. She wanted to move to the burbs and have babies. And he is a 41-year-old who has just announced he wants to be a DJ. And you could really, really tell that they hate each other right now. It is perversely compelling television to watch them just loathe each other on TV. I don't know if I've ever seen two married people hate each other more clearly on television. And this sounds like a bummer, but it is not. I think Kyle's going to be very happy as a single 41-year-old DJ, and she's going to get married in 18 months. It is satisfying to feel like the entire viewing audience was correct in how this relationship was going to pan out. And if you haven't watched the series before, I'd argue the whole thing's a fun watch. You can skip season one. They don't know what they're doing the first season. But two through eight, I think, is a fun way to disassociate if you need to. And you might. Tara: [24:21] And you might. Very good. What do you have to plug? Jessica: [24:24] Just same old, same old. Like, come watch. You know, we're in award season. So come by, go fuck yourself if you want to see people wearing dumb stuff on the red carpet. Or good stuff. People don't look as dumb as they used to anymore, which is sad for me. We are doing live chats about the Olympics every day at our newsletter right now, which is called Drinks with Broads. So in case you need someone to, like, talk to you about slope-style skiing, we're here. And we're also running our regular twice-weekly newsletter. So that's it. Dave: [24:51] Two things. I thought you said Snopes-style skiing, like all about the conspiracies involved with the skiing racket. Jessica: [24:58] That'd be great. You can bring that up if you want. Come into the chat. Dave: [25:02] And as far as those fashions you were talking about, did we peak with Bjork's swan dress? Was that sort of the last great thing? Jessica: [25:09] Maybe. Yeah. I think you could argue that for sure. like i think people looked the worst in like 2001 to 2008. Dave: [25:17] It's just another reason to go back to the 90s i know i wish people. Jessica: [25:22] Wouldn't listen to us like don't listen to the fashion police people like wear whatever dumb shit you want to wear it's much more interesting. Dave: [25:28] I mean that sort of stuff is like i could go to heb and there's like somebody shopping they got like a bear i don't even know what it is suit slash pajamas you know just like yeah yeah one metal onesies You can go grocery shopping in that. You can certainly wind up a swine at the Oscars. Jessica: [25:45] Yes. Wear a bear onesie to the Oscars. That would be ideal. Please. I wish someone would do that. Dave: [25:53] All right, here's what's coming up this Friday on our bonus podcast, Extra, Extra Hot Great, available to club members. We'll be talking about strip law, where stripping is the law. Tara: [26:04] No, that's not what it's about. Dave: [26:05] Don't tell me what it's about. That's what it's about until we watch. Tara: [26:07] Okay. Dave: [26:08] Yeah, that is available to club members. Go to extrahotgreat.com slash club to find out more and to sign up. And then come back next week right here at EHG Prime. Yes, we're talking about season two of Paradise. It's the show where they all live in a dome. And we'll welcome back Alison Lewis to talk about that. Can't wait. Tara: [26:28] Woo. Dave: [26:47] Is this worse than jazz? I haven't heard that in a while. Fuck me, that's good. All right. Is this worse than jazz? I know Tara's already heard what I'm talking about today, but I'm going to suspect Jessica probably isn't watching Star Trek Academy. Not high school-y enough even for Jessica. Tara: [27:05] No. Starfleet Academy. Dave: [27:07] Sorry, what did I say? Tara: [27:08] Star Trek. Dave: [27:09] Star Trek Academy. Yeah, same thing. Jessica: [27:10] I'm not watching either of those two things now. Dave: [27:13] All right, good. So we got one that knows what's coming and we have one that has no idea what is coming. In Starfleet Academy, I made Jessica. Paul Giamatti is sort of the middling level villain. Tara: [27:25] The way Jessica's eyes popped is correct. That is the right reaction to finding out he's in the show. Dave: [27:31] He's got face stuff. And then on the side of his head, because reasons, he's got a tic-tac-toe board shaved into the side of his head like it's Batman in the 80s. Jessica: [27:42] Oh, my God. This sounds good. I'm sorry. Dave: [27:45] We're going to see. All right. So here is Paul Giamatti in the sixth episode of the first season meeting with Starfleet because Starfleet needs some help with some aggressive aliens that they have met. Here is Paul Giamatti explaining the situation. here's what you need to get about the furies they hate being, the only relief they get is to just spooge it all over other people come on, oh i wish i was recording video oh man that was great all right so you've heard it now now my question is, is Paul Giamatti's line about spooching over things? I'm going to guess the Star Trek first. Worse than jazz. I got to get your take first after that performance on Zoom. Jessica: [28:41] Oh my God. My eyes are literally watering. Yes. That is the worst. No, I can't take this. It's the worst thing I've ever heard. It's horrible. Dave: [28:51] If there's a meter and it said more likely or less likely for you to watch Starfleet Academy after that, where's that needle going? Tara: [28:58] He's only a recurring guest star. Jessica: [29:01] Listen, you did have me with the tec-tec-toe stuff. I was like, this sounds great. This is so against type. This is crazy. I might be in. But then I had to hear him say the word spooge and like, no, out. I can't do it. I don't. Dave: [29:13] So it sounds like worse than jazz for you. Jessica: [29:16] Yes. Dave: [29:16] All right. Tara, what are you thinking? Tara: [29:18] I agree. This is not what I want in my Star Trek, especially after just last week we watched the lovely series finale of Star Trek The Next Generation, which was, again, 90s excellence. It was, like, so elegiac and lofty. And then to go from that to spooge, especially that word, it's, like, so juvenile. Dave: [29:40] Adam Grossworth in the Discord comments spelled S-P-O-O-J. It made me laugh so hard. It really does feel proper. Like, maybe it's in the script that way. Tara: [29:52] Spooge. Dave: [29:53] Yeah. Tara: [29:54] No, it's worse than jazz. I don't care for that. This doesn't make me want to rejoin the show. Dave: [29:59] All right. And I don't want to get whatever blue sky tweets are called and emails. So I'm just going to put this out there. Oh, is this worse than jizz? Okay. Dave: [30:16] it's time for the extra hot great canon presenting today is tara ariano. Tara: [30:21] Hello there have been two shows called the bob newhart show one that aired for a single season starting in 1961 and one that ran for six seasons starting in 1972 that one the one you've probably heard of before is about a psychologist named bob hartley played by bob newhart he has a busy practice as a psychologist As I said, he shares office space and a secretary named Carol Kester, Marsha Wallace, with a dentist, Jerry Robinson. Tara: [30:50] Played by Peter Boners. He also has a wife, and she is the focus of the episode I'm talking about today, season two, episode 17, The Modernization of Emily. Here is why I think it's canon worthy. Number one, it establishes its premise efficiently. As a couple, Bob and his wife Emily, Suzanne Plachette, are reliably steady, so much so that the episode opens with them in a supermarket, buying the ingredients for Emily to make the same meal she made them on their first wedding anniversary and which she has made again for each subsequent anniversary, of which this is their fifth. One senses this is not the only routine that governs the Hartleys' life together. Later, when they've finished eating, they recall how their previous anniversary dinners went, clip one. Better than our first anniversary dinner? I think so. Our first anniversary, you boiled the filet. Tara: [31:58] Think it means on our golden anniversary, dinner will be breakfast. Bob seems like he would be perfectly happy on this track, but Emily has had an unsettling experience. Their box boy at the supermarket just reminded her that she was his third grade teacher 10 years ago, and now he is in college. Clip two. Well, I never would have recognized you. How did you recognize me? Tara: [32:35] Mean, you haven't retired, have you? No, I'm still hanging in there. Maybe Emily would have been able to move on from this shock to her system if not for Bob's choice of anniversary gift, clip three. Tara: [33:28] Glad I didn't get the trash masher. Even the Hartleys' idiot neighbor, Howard, Bill Daly, almost backs into recognizing this gift as a fuck-up, clip four. Yeah, I gave my mother one like this for her 60th birthday. Tara: [33:58] Emily is so sturdy. So Howard tries to open the very old champagne that he has regifted them. Nothing happens when the cork comes off. Emily is so dismayed she runs into the bedroom, slamming the bedroom door and then the ensuite door, which is how Bob knows she wants to be alone. In less than 10 minutes of screen time, we've got a clear picture of the situation. Tara: [34:22] Emily is starting to feel her age and she's rattled. Number two, it lets Emily be a clown. Though later comedies about therapists like Frasier and Shrinking would lean into the idea that a mental health practitioner could have as many issues to deal with as their patients, Bob is usually the stable, stoic center here. He and Emily are more often sargonically commenting on the lunacy of the characters around them than doing anything terribly wacky themselves. This episode is a departure, with Emily making the wacky choices everyone else has to react to. Over lunch, Bob tells Jerry he has seen her this angry before and that she has previously gotten through it by giving herself a makeover. One time she came home a blonde, another she got her ears pierced, so Bob is wary when he gets home, calling through the bedroom door to see if she's a blonde again. Of course not, she says. She has instead got a wig to artificially lengthen her wedge haircut, an argyle cardigan with matching knee-high socks, a sequined graphic t-shirt, which honestly would probably still work today, sorry. Denim pedal pushers and chunky wedge sandals, clip five. Tara: [35:48] Like it. Yeah, I mean, I want your honest opinion. I like it. Bob, I mean, I really want to know what you think. Emily, I think that's the stupidest looking outfit, I have ever seen in my entire life. She runs out. Tara: [36:14] Bob has no idea how to deal with this new version of Emily, whom Jerry can't believe could ever look ridiculous and brags that he's over 30 and still a fashion pace setter. And he's not wrong. His Tommy Tooth says keep on brushing shirt would probably go for $40 minimum at a vintage store today. But everyone gets a look at Emily's latest makeover at an anniversary party. She's in a sequined denim jacket, a denim maxi skirt made out of recycled jeans with a toile patch in the middle, and another sequined t-shirt, this one with lips smoking a cigarette. Howard's date, Rosalie, future Cagney and Lacey star Sharon Gless, is surprised Emily's so young, and as they get to know each other, they start to bond, and then stop. Clip six. What do you do? I'm an elementary school teacher. Really? Well, so am. Tara: [37:25] I just love them. Him. Him. Yeah. When Carol and Jerry join the party, they are also taken aback by Emily's get-up, Clip 7. Jerry, you remember Emily, the leader of the pack? Dave: [37:41] Well, Jerry, it's a new look. You've got to get used to it, you know? I'm. Tara: [38:00] Now I am. Yeah, so? I'm not so sure. We find out the Hartleys have asked for gag gifts only, which requires Carol to do some quick thinking, clip eight. Before you open that up, I would just like to say one thing. Now, that is no longer. Tara: [38:42] Me Let's see, It's the t-shirt she's wearing, Why don't we take another look at the apartment, okay? Yeah Oh, yeah Come on, chair, worse, Emily. It could be the whole outfit. After everyone has left, a humiliated Emily is back to her reliably steady self in a flannel nightgown, out of the wig. Bob's advice is for Emily to be herself, and whoever that is, he loves her. She agrees, and she's got an idea, clip nine. Why don't you put those silk pajamas on, you know? I'll slip into a negligee. Tara: [39:39] Let them just whip themselves into a frenzy. Order may have been restored, but Bob is really going to have to do better on her gift next year. Number three, it's full of reminders of what makes a multicam sitcom so charming. The one-off supermarket set, hilariously unconvincing. The curmudgeon behind Bob and Emily doing material straight out of the Catskills. The audience's reactions to Emily's outfits appropriately amazed. A gag about writing a check at the supermarket aimed straight at David T. Cole. The modernization of Emily stands out from the rest of the run of The Bob Newhart Show, and it stands out on a pair of very clunky sandals. Put those sandals in the cannon. Dave: [40:21] Thank you, Tara. Jessica, you want to take first crack? Jessica: [40:24] I hadn't seen this episode in a really long time. So when I was a kid, my mom, here in LA, Mary Tyler Moore and Bob Newhart were on in syndication at like 5 p.m. And so my mom would put them on while she made dinner and I've seen almost all of them. So I feel very like cozy when I'm watching Bob Newhart. Hi, Bob, as we, for all mankind fans know it. Getting to like revisit this was delightful. I feel like Emily doesn't get to do. She doesn't really get to be the star of the show that often, if I recall correctly. So it was sort of fun to get to see her really be the center of a story for once. I thought this episode's a little unusual because we don't see any of Bob's clients. And I do think I miss the patients a little bit. But, you know, it's like a 30-minute show. You can't fit everyone in there. They're not inviting Bob's patients to their party. Suzanne Plachette is so, she's so sweet in it. You kind of want to hug her. As a person who's aging, I found it kind of relatable where you're like, oh, God, I'm so old. And plus, you know, I spent the whole episode thinking, like, who is this young actress? Like, I recognize her. And then it came up and I was, Sherry Glass, that's fun. So, like, that was sort of a fun little Easter egg as well. No, I think this episode's pretty delightful. Tara: [41:41] We do get Mrs. Baker made at the supermarket. So there is a little bit of client and reminder of what Bob does because he's helped her ask for a box. Jessica: [41:49] Well, and he's at the office talking to, what's his name, the dentist? Tara: [41:53] Jerry. Jessica: [41:53] While they're having lunch, while Jerry's stealing his lunch. Tara: [41:55] Yeah. Jessica: [41:56] And I do love Jerry. But I, so I do, I miss a little bit of the group therapy, but I don't know where they would have fitted in this episode in the first place. Dave: [42:04] The actress who is the patient that's running the till at the grocery store, is that the one whose first name is Florida? Yeah. Tara: [42:11] Uh, I don't remember that. I don't think so. Dave: [42:14] I'll look it up. Okay, there's somebody on the cast named Florida. Tara: [42:16] I think it's Loretta, but I'll look it up. Dave: [42:17] I thought I needed it. Tara: [42:18] I'll look it up. Dave: [42:18] Okay. Anyways, great episode. How much do I want Tommy Tooth says keep on brushing shirt? Tara: [42:26] I'm saying. Dave: [42:26] It's big enough that I feel like I might be able to reproduce it and just do like one for David T. Cole. And then everybody's like, where'd you get that? And I'm like, nowhere. Chicken on a stick as a band name also wouldn't mind that t-shirt. But before I finish up, I just want to say, Jessica, you didn't talk about like the fashions in a U. Tara: [42:46] Sorry, this podcast episode was big on fashion across the board. Jessica: [42:49] Yes. Dave: [42:49] Let's rate Emily's get-ups. Jessica: [42:52] I honestly think this show as a whole is surprisingly stylish. Like I think their apartment is very chic. I realized watching this that I think my mom bought one of our sofas because it looks like the one in this apartment. I think Carol, the secretary, always looks amazing. Like I feel like the whole time I was like, I don't know what she's wearing, but I want to wear that. Tara: [43:11] Yeah. Her jumpsuit at the party was great. Jessica: [43:12] Oh, cute. It's so funny to watch this because, you know, speaking about the 90s, there was this whole like 70s revamp in the 90s where we all kind of revisited it. And as Tartt pointed out, some of Emily's like, quote unquote, embarrassing youthful T-shirts, 100% people would wear now. Tara: [43:30] Totally. Jessica: [43:30] The lips smoking, like this is cute. I think it's sort of cute. but obviously the way she's styled is very over the top like socks with the platform sandals what are you doing it's just I think it was really well done in the fact that it is obviously bonkers on her care as a character like for a person she would never wear this but not so like crazy crazy that you'd wear it and you think there's no way this woman would buy this like I think it was actually very well done in that she obviously everyone thinks it's it's totally nuts on her But it's not so necessary, it's like not believable that a person could purchase this. I thought it was very thoughtfully done. Dave: [44:08] My favorite line is when Emily comes out in her second outfit, which is sort of like the disco grease outfit, you know? Tara: [44:16] Yeah. Dave: [44:17] Bob just introduces her as the leader of the pack, which made me laugh out loud. I thought that was such a great joke. I always sort of forget how dry this is because you don't usually get something this dry in American sitcoms, right? Because this is like kind of feels like a British show in its tone, more so than stuff that was airing in the States at this time. So I always re-appreciate that every time I come back to visit this show. And the only other thing I wanted to bring up, and it is a fashion item, what was up with her little house on the prairie nightgown right at the end before she has to slip into something more comfortable? Jessica: [44:53] I have a nightgown just like that. And I would like to point out, it's extremely comfortable. It's not sexy. This is what you wear when you're like, I'm going to bed and it's freezing. It's from L.L. Bean and it has pockets. Tara: [45:04] Nice. Jessica: [45:05] And it's very comfortable. I highly recommend. But yes. Dave: [45:08] Cargo pants of nightwear. Jessica: [45:10] Yes, it is. It's got pockets. It's warm. It's not sexy, but it's very cozy. So, but yeah, that's you wear that when you're like, I'm a sensible lady and I'm going immediately to sleep. Good night. Dave: [45:22] Yeah. I think during the pandemics when we started our re not rewatches, but discoveries of classic sitcoms, we've never really engaged with in their true fashion before mary tyler moore bob newhart taxi taxi yeah so and this one i think was my favorite of those i think mary tyler moore has more of a legacy but bob newhart show was my personal favorite it's funnier i think it is funnier and bob newhart as a bob hartley as a character i i love i think it's because it does remind me of british sitcoms of the era too like kind of a faulty towers sort of flavor to it great good episode nice to see emily at the center of it. The other one that reminded me of is the Fear of Flying episode that she was central to. Yeah, that's the premiere. So, yeah, good stuff. Alright, let's put this to the official vote. Jessica, what say you for the canon? Jessica: [46:13] I say yes. Dave: [46:14] All right, me too. So, perfect score. The Bob Newhart Show, Season 2, Episode 17, The Modernization of Emily. You are hereby inducted into the Extra Hot Great Kennedys. Dave: [46:41] It's time to discover our winner and loser of the week. I have this week's winner. It is Saturday Night Live. They are booking the Gorillaz, just Gorillaz, Dave, not the Gorillaz, as a musical guest for the first time ever. You folks ready to begin? I guess. Is this episode going on the air live? No, Homer. Very few cartoons are broadcast live. It's a terrible strain on the animator's wrist. All right, we'll see how it goes. Tara: [47:08] The Gorillaz on a stick. Yes. Speaking of Saturday Night Live, our loser is Jimmy Fallon, who has been forced to cut ties with Tommy Mottola because Mottola appeared in the Epstein files. And now Fallon and Mottola are not going to be collaborating on a pasta sauce together. Sad face. That is all true. There is not a product this man will not endorse. He is such a whore. But I guess he finally reached his limit. Now we know he has one. Dave: [47:38] Right. But Jimmy Fallon is just turning into Smeagol, right? That's his path? Tara: [47:43] Yeah. Dave: [47:43] Okay. Tara: [47:44] Yeah. Jessica: [47:44] That sounded like a Mad Lib. Tara: [47:46] I know. Jessica: [47:47] Celebrity, celebrity product. Tara: [47:49] I know. Jessica: [47:50] What the hell? Why would I want a tomato sauce from either one of these people? Dave: [47:54] What is Jimmy Fallon bringing to the discussion of what goes in a tomato sauce? Got one that laughs at its own jokes? Jessica: [48:02] One that breaks constantly. Tara: [48:04] Four times as much vodka in it As other sausage. Dave: [48:08] Sauces The one that if you leave it in your cupboard long enough It'll make another lip sync show for you Like what's going on here. Tara: [48:14] Anyway Speaking of wrapping lip sync shows You know what time it is. Dave: [48:19] Speaking about Jimmy Fallon coming in to do your show for you Yes Do you I believe it's game time It is. Tara: [48:40] It is, of course, it would have been a non-regulation game time under any circumstances with Sarah being out, but it is a non-regulation game time written by me because when I went into Dave's office on Saturday and said, I'm just reminding you now so that you don't get mad that I didn't remind you later. We're recording on Monday, not Tuesday. And the look on his face, like I'd crushed his gentle spirit, maybe offered to do a game time. So that's what's happening. Dave was able to roll out of bed and come to the podcast. Dave: [49:08] Not mad, frustrated. I'm not mad at you. Tara: [49:12] I know. Dave: [49:13] I'm just frustrated at that situation sometimes and I forget and suddenly I've lost a day. It was fine because it was a light load. Thank you to Tara. Tara: [49:20] So this is Promotional Considerations 2. It is a sequel to a non-regulation game time we played back in Extra Hot Great 225, a game about fake commercials from TV shows. They run the gamut from fully produced commercials we see the characters watch to promos for other series in the show's universe. I will play you a clip, or rather Dave will, and for three points, you can tell me what show the clip is from. If you need a hint, I'll tell you the name of a star of the show who may or may not be heard in the clip, and then it's worth one point. No show appears in the game more than once. A couple have been edited down either for giveaway content or for length, and I will let you know before we get to an edited one that it is edited. there are 16 questions and a tiebreaker no steel meals no gross worth equalizer challenge zones winner gets a gift related to an answer they got right let's throw it to picky to see who is going first we. Dave: [50:23] Will start with david we. Tara: [50:25] Will start with david dave can you keep score. Dave: [50:28] Tara it would be my honor. Tara: [50:30] Are we ready to play Promotional Considerations 2? Dave: [50:33] Yeah! Tara: [50:35] Alright. Question 1 and of course all of the odd questions are for Dave. Let's hear clip 1. Hand them over. They're mine. No, they're not. Pipe down, you two. Dave: [51:12] Has anyone seen my lamp? Tara: [51:17] What is the show? Dave: [51:18] Almost tripped me up because it's been a hot minute since I watched it. And I put together Phil Hartman and Studio Laughter and I was all set for Saturday Night Live. But I do believe this is, in fact, Bill McNeil down on his luck doing shitty ads on news radio. Tara: [51:32] That's correct. He's not down on his luck. He's just greedy. Dave: [51:35] Well, okay. Tara: [51:36] All right. Let's hear clip two for Jessica. Ichiban. Ichiban. Jessica: [52:00] Lipstick for men. Saiko. Oh, Joy Tribbiani on Friends. Tara: [52:07] That's right. Jessica: [52:08] I can picture it. I can see that one. Tara: [52:10] It's so funny. Jessica: [52:12] It's still so funny. Dave: [52:13] Is the lipsticks sort of like blue? Tara: [52:15] Yeah, they're like blue and purple and stuff. All right. Clip three is for Dave. Dave: [52:30] That sounds like Futurama. Tara: [52:33] That is correct for three points. That was a jingle that ran through my head a lot last fall when we had to get our full sewer system rebuilt and got about seven different estimates on it. Jessica: [52:46] Oh, my God. Dave: [52:47] Yeah, let me tell you this, guys. You don't want that. Tara: [52:50] Nope. Dave: [52:51] You don't want that. Tara: [52:52] All right. Dave: [52:53] But now, holy cow, the sizes of poops I can put through that system. Jessica: [52:56] Congrats. That's amazing. Tara: [52:58] I'm flushing towels just for fun. All right, let's hear a clip four for Jessica. Jessica: [53:04] Hi, I'm Dennis Feinstein. And if you're anything like me in. Dave: [53:26] Because every single animal that smelled it, tasted it, or ingested it died. And what are viruses but tiny animals that live in your body? I know what you're thinking. Shouldn't this, We know what's best for you. Miracle Cure. Whoa. Tara: [53:53] Jessica looks puzzled. Jessica: [53:55] Yeah. I am puzzled. What are the hints I can ask for? Tara: [53:59] You can ask for a hint, and I will give you a star of the show. Not necessarily one that's in the clip. Jessica: [54:04] Okay. I would like a hint, please. Tara: [54:05] A star of the show, not in the clip, is Amy Poehler. Dave: [54:10] Okay. Jessica: [54:13] I mean, I... Dave: [54:14] Do you know who's in the clip, just out of curiosity? Jessica: [54:16] No. I mean, I can't name it. I recognize the noise, but I don't know who it is. Is it Parks and Rec? No. Tara: [54:23] Yes, it's from the zoo special that they did. Jessica: [54:27] Oh, I never watched that. Oh my God, thank God I asked for that clip. Dave: [54:31] I would have been stumped without the clue because, well, first of all, that is Jason Banzukas, right? Tara: [54:36] Yes, he was not a cast member though. He was only a recurring star. He played Dennis Weinstein in several episodes. Dave: [54:42] Only knowing it was Jason Banzukas, that narrows down the possible pop culture properties to like 10% because he is- Because you know it's not the league because he's. Tara: [54:50] Not named Rafi. Jessica: [54:52] Okay, oh my God, I got it. Thank you, Amy Poehler. Dave: [54:54] So one point for that. Tara: [54:55] One point for that. Dave: [54:56] Got it. Tara: [54:57] Dave, clip five is for you. Banzai. Daniel LaRusso here for LaRusso Auto, bringing you, bonsai tree. LaRusso Auto Group, we kick the competition. Dave: [55:40] Is that from the pilot? Tara: [55:41] Yeah. Dave: [55:42] Yeah. That sounded like Cobra Kai. Tara: [55:45] That is Cobra Kai. All right. Next is for Jessica, clip six. Jessica: [55:51] Okay. There's no I in Teemo Sill, at least not where you'd think. Dave: [56:27] Your own wellness guide. Timo Sill. Jessica looks so confused right now. Jessica: [56:35] I am confused. The guy kind of sounded like Zach Braff. Is it Scrubs? Tara: [56:42] It is not Scrubs. I'll let you guess again. Do you want the clue? Jessica: [56:46] Yeah. Dave: [56:46] That's fair. Tara: [56:47] A star of this show and is in the clip is David Cross. Jessica: [56:51] Oh, I don't know. I have no idea. Dave: [56:53] Really? Jessica: [56:54] Yeah. Dave: [56:56] Don't want to guess a David Cross show? Jessica: [56:58] No. Tara: [56:58] What is it, Dave? Jessica: [56:59] I don't know. Arrested Development? I have no idea. Is he even in that? Tara: [57:02] I'll give it to you. Jessica: [57:03] It is Arrested Development? It is. Dave: [57:04] See, Jessica, that's why you always guess. Jessica: [57:08] You're right. I should always guess. You're right. Tara: [57:10] I'll give you that one. Jessica: [57:10] You're correct. Tara: [57:11] It's not regulation game time. Who cares? Jessica: [57:13] That's true. You're right. Anything goes. Tara: [57:15] Clip seven is for Dave. Dave: [57:18] Really went on a journey there with Jessica's game machine. All right, here we go. Jessica: [57:24] Is your husband tired of you burning his toast? Dave: [58:06] Industries. Forget the past. This is your future. All right. Well, I'm glad for that end because I was thinking Fallout based on the music and all the little things and stuff like that. Oh, yeah, it is Fallout-ish. Okay, so Stark Industries means there's something Marvel and there's something on TV. Oh, it's probably, okay, right. Okay, so it's a commercial. It's in the past. So I'm going to guess this is WandaVision? Tara: [58:30] That's correct. From the series premiere. And that's the one where you can see the red light. It's all black and white, but the light on the machine is red flashing. all right we'll do clip eight and then we'll do a score break clip eight that shander's list, it's one of the many things those two projects have in common okay clip eight is for jessica without a painter quindy our town would really stink we wouldn't. Dave: [59:06] Quimby, if you were running for mayor, he'd vote for you. Paid for by the mayor, Quimby for mayor, mayoral committee. Jessica: [59:14] Simpsons. Tara: [59:14] It is the Simpsons. Excellent. All right, let's get those scores. I've been keeping track, too, so we can make sure we match. Dave: [59:20] All right, here are your scores, according to me. Tara, I'm going to ask you for confirmation after each one. David T. Cole, currently in the lead with 12 points. Jessica, close behind with eight. Tara: [59:34] That is true, but there's still a lot more game to play. Let's get back to it. Dave: [59:37] So, Tara Ariano, you do confirm. Tara: [59:38] I do. I concur. Dave: [59:40] I concur. Oh, concur. Right. Tara: [59:42] Fuck that. Damn. Cliff nine is for Dave. Dave: [59:59] Oh, that's it. Tara: [1:00:00] That's it. Dave: [1:00:01] I'm going to listen to that one more time, please. Roll the dice, spin that wheel, where the boardwalk meets the shore. I have guesses. Tara: [1:00:21] Well, you can guess, and then if you're wrong, I'll give you a hint. Dave: [1:00:24] Oh, yeah, right. Okay. I forgot about that new twist. I'm going to guess this is Fallout I didn't think so I thought maybe it was the Vegas stuff because I heard like a pig or a monster grant but then there's like the boardwalk which didn't make total sense but I thought I'd go for it Alright, hit me up. Tara: [1:00:41] Your hint is Matt Berry Oh damn. Dave: [1:00:45] That was Matt Berry? Tara: [1:00:47] Well that wasn't Matt Berry but he's in the show it's from Oh. Dave: [1:00:50] Okay I'm just going to say what we do in the shadows and just based on American singing Okay. Tara: [1:00:56] That's correct. It's from the episode where they go to Atlantic City. Dave: [1:01:00] Oh, of course. Yeah. Tara: [1:01:01] That's when Colin gets addicted to a looping promo for the casino they're in. Dave: [1:01:07] Right. And Guillermo has to go to. Tara: [1:01:09] He has to go and get all their ancestral soils. Yeah. All right. Clip 10 is for Jessica. Her husband may have froze, but she's just heating up. This fall. Jessica: [1:01:26] Chasing mine. Pat, weekdays at 4. Saturday Night Live? No. Tara: [1:01:35] But good guess. Jessica: [1:01:36] I need a hint. Tara: [1:01:38] It is Molly Shannon. Jessica: [1:01:39] Yeah. Oh, man. I don't know a Molly Shannon show. Is she on Loot? Loot? I don't know. Tara: [1:01:50] She might be. I don't know. Jessica: [1:01:52] She could be. Who knows? Tara: [1:01:54] What is it, Dave? Dave: [1:01:55] This is The Other Two. Tara: [1:01:57] It is The Other Two. Dave: [1:01:58] Yeah. Jessica: [1:01:58] Oh, I never watched that. Yeah, I was never going to get that. Tara: [1:02:01] From SNL co-head writers, formerly. Jessica: [1:02:04] Yeah. Tara: [1:02:05] All right, this is one of the edited ones. Let's hear clip. I won't say what I edited for, but if there's a... Okay, I guess I will. Dave: [1:02:13] No, that's fine. Just tell me what you edited out, the names. Tara: [1:02:17] I edited out a name. Dave: [1:02:18] Yeah, what name? Jessica: [1:02:19] Let's hear clip 11. Who's that walking through an awesome landscape recording a piece to camera? It's your very own. Featuring a. Dave: [1:02:55] Combustion and melancholy. Terms and conditions available on our website. Do not feed after midnight. and I remember to hydrate forever and ever, amen. Wow. Does not ring any bells. Sounds animated, but who knows? I guess, oh, I gotta take a, all right, I'm just gonna throw a guy, I don't think this is it, but just because I think I might be living in Tara's brain, is this anything to do with ha ha, you clowns? Tara: [1:03:19] Your hint is Diane Morgan. Dave: [1:03:23] So, I wish I was paying attention to the content rather than the voices. Well, this is Kunk on Something. What were they talking about? Kunk on Earth? Tara: [1:03:36] I'll give it to you. It's Kunk on Life. It's the one-off special. Dave: [1:03:40] You don't have to give it to me. Jessica: [1:03:41] I've never even heard of that. I'm so glad I know. Dave: [1:03:43] Oh, you would like Kunk. Tara: [1:03:44] It's really funny. Jessica: [1:03:45] Never gotten it. Dave: [1:03:45] Yeah, Seek Em Out. Tara: [1:03:46] It's on Netflix. Jessica: [1:03:47] Okay. Tara: [1:03:48] They have Kunk on Earth and Kunk on Life. Dave: [1:03:52] Which is the one with the castle scene. That's Earth, right? Tara: [1:03:54] Kunk on Earth. Dave: [1:03:55] Yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah, watch Kunk on Earth, and then there's more if you like it. Tara: [1:03:58] It's like a spoof. You can't tell from that commercial, but it's a spoof of history nonfiction shows. Dave: [1:04:07] Yeah, but the host is amazing. Tara: [1:04:09] But the host is like an idiot. Dave: [1:04:10] It's by the Black Mirror creator, too. Jessica: [1:04:12] Oh, that's fun. Tara: [1:04:13] It's really good. Jessica: [1:04:14] Good to know. Tara: [1:04:15] Okay, clip 12 is for Jessica. Jessica: [1:04:18] All right. There are stories out there that need to be told. There's shit out there that's just, you know, wrong. You still want this job? It's your money. Oh, my God. I need a hint, please. Tara: [1:05:12] Your hint, and he is in the clip, is Eric Boghossian. Jessica: [1:05:15] Oh, God. Dave: [1:05:16] The Boghoss. Jessica: [1:05:18] Yes, you're right. It is Eric Boghossian. I never would have gotten that. Oh, my gosh. I don't know this one at all. Tara: [1:05:25] Another excellent show, also on Netflix. What is it, Dave? Dave: [1:05:28] I don't know. Tara: [1:05:29] Oh, it's Interviews with Vampire. Dave: [1:05:31] Oh, it's not a Netflix show. Oh, is that on Netflix now? No, okay. If you said AMC, I would have got it. Tara: [1:05:37] It's really good. Jessica: [1:05:38] Wow. Tara: [1:05:38] Great show. Dave: [1:05:38] I don't remember that. Tara: [1:05:40] That's the very beginning of the pilot. It's like his master class promo. Yeah, seriously. Dave: [1:05:45] That's right. Jessica: [1:05:45] I did love that book, so there you go. All right, good to know. Tara: [1:05:49] Well, there's way more gay sex in the show, so. Jessica: [1:05:51] I should hope so. I sold. Sounds great. Dave: [1:05:53] It's like they're playing hockey. Jessica: [1:05:57] Softness in his eyes. Tara: [1:05:58] Iron in his thighs. All right, all right. Dave: [1:06:01] All right. Tara: [1:06:01] Clip 13 is for Dave. Dave: [1:06:37] That's it. That's the ball I saw. Okay. Almost tripped me up again. But I think this is not I think you should leave, but this is the chair company. Tara: [1:06:47] Correct. Jessica: [1:06:48] Good for three points. Tara: [1:06:50] Less a commercial than, you know, a jingle. All right. Let's hear clip 14 and then we'll get a score break. Oh, that was before I got rid of my Maryland accent. Does the O have it? O. Jessica: [1:07:09] Oh, that accent's idiotic. 30 rock. Tara: [1:07:14] Correct. Dave: [1:07:15] Nice. Jessica: [1:07:16] Yeah. Tara: [1:07:16] Nicely done. All right, let's get this. Jessica: [1:07:18] I'll never forget that accent. Tara: [1:07:20] It's so good. Jessica: [1:07:21] It's so good. Tara: [1:07:22] Okay. Dave: [1:07:24] All right. I did not give myself that point for whatever the cunk was. Tara: [1:07:28] I didn't either. Dave: [1:07:29] I. Tara: [1:07:30] Well, you said not to. Dave: [1:07:32] I know, but the way you said it. Tara: [1:07:33] Okay, sorry. Dave: [1:07:34] Did I give it to you? Didn't deserve it. I have 16. Tara: [1:07:38] Yep. Dave: [1:07:39] Jessica currently has 11. Tara: [1:07:41] Okay. Jessica: [1:07:43] Respectable. Tara: [1:07:44] Let's hear the last two clips. Clip 15 is for Dave. Imagine a world without lamination. Dave: [1:08:14] I'm going to listen to that one more time, please. Imagine a world without lamination. Laminate, laminate, just in case you spill. I was worried it was from, would I lie to you, but I don't think we have that quality of audience laughter. So I'm going to say that was Taskmaster. Tara: [1:08:34] That is correct. Four, three points. Oh, final clip, and this is also edited for length. This is for Jessica. Jessica: [1:08:42] Okay. So what is he putting in there? A secret. is like that, but that's just part of it. Saturday Night Live. Tara: [1:09:38] Yes! Jessica: [1:09:39] Yeah, I got one! Tara: [1:09:40] Woo! You got a lot. You did very well. That's the end of regulation play. Let's get the scores. Dave: [1:09:48] All right, fine. All right, our final scores are Jessica closing strong with a final score of 14. And I was five ahead with a score of 19. Tara: [1:10:01] Good job, everyone. Jessica: [1:10:03] Yay, good job, everybody. Tara: [1:10:05] Let's play the tiebreaker for Steel Meal for the Valued Guests. Dave: [1:10:09] Okay. Jessica: [1:10:09] Okay. Dave: [1:10:10] First person to buzz in, right? Tara: [1:10:12] Mm-hmm. Dave: [1:10:12] Okay, you ready? Okay, here we go. Look down. Back up. Yeah, where am I? Oh, I. Jessica: [1:10:21] Hand? Back at me. I have it. It is a clam with two tickets to that thing you love. Sesame Street? Dave: [1:10:27] On my nose. Sesame Street. Tara: [1:10:29] Grover. Dave: [1:10:30] Oh, Grover. Jessica: [1:10:31] I like a nice Grover in a hot second. Dave: [1:10:33] My brain was going gonzo because of... Tara: [1:10:36] The special we just watched, yeah. No, it's Grover doing the Old Spice commercial. Dave: [1:10:41] Sesame Street style. Oh, good ear. Jessica: [1:10:43] Classic. Tara: [1:10:43] And that's it. Jessica: [1:10:45] Yay! Tara: [1:10:46] Good job, Dave. Jessica: [1:10:47] Good job, Dave. Dave: [1:10:48] Thanks. Jessica: [1:10:48] I did better than last time where I feel like last time I played game time, I got like nothing. And I started thinking like, oh my God, is my brain going? So this is good. Tara: [1:11:00] Dave! Dave. Dave: [1:11:01] Thank you, Tara. Fun. And thank you, everybody, for listening to this, another episode of Extra Hot Great. We turned our baseball caps backwards for the Ryan Murray horror film love story before going around the dial with stops at Going Dutch, Dutch boy, he was hard for you, and Summer House. We discovered whether or not Paul Giamatti saying spooge on Star Trek was worse than jazz. Tara showed us it's time to get our canon list up to date with the modernization of Emily. We crowned winners and losers of the week, and I was a winner of this week's Game Time from Tara. Next up, it's Strip Law, where stripping is the law on Extra, Extra Hot Great this Friday. Remember... I am David T. Cole, and on behalf of Tara Arianna. Tara: [1:11:53] On the Bob Newhart show, Mrs. Bakerman's first name is Lillian. Dave: [1:11:56] No, but the actress. Tara: [1:11:58] Oh. Dave: [1:11:59] Oh, the end of the show is disintegrated. The absence of Sarah D. Bunting and Jessica Morgan. Jessica: [1:12:07] Good luck with your underwear model. Dave: [1:12:09] Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time right here on Extra. Tara: [1:12:13] Her name is Florida. Oh, my, three doors, holy shit what get to the basement. Dave: [1:12:35] Bob newhart's here, all right stop that, florida frebus yeah see told you oh. Jessica: [1:12:48] What a name you're right. Dave: [1:12:50] Florida freebus that's a good one it also sounds like a strain of marijuana oh yeah get yourself some good florida freebus or. Tara: [1:12:59] A disease that comes back. Dave: [1:13:01] After uh it's america's version of west nile virus yeah yeah she's got florida freebus guys.