Sitting Center Court For Running Point

Clip 00:04 No, I'm oh oh shit You can't do that. You can't sneak up on somebody like that. I almost had a heart attack. I didn't sneak up on you. I gently tapped you on the shoulder and lightly said norm. Well, you know where it was coming from. It's like a ghost. Can I just sit down? Yeah. Dave 00:27 This is the Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 612 for the week of April 27, 2026. I am George Clooney's frame photo of his good friend Richard Kind, David D. Cole, and I'm here with Terrible Interview Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 00:45 And I'm cleaning you out of Sunchips. Dave 00:47 Unappreciated halftime dancer Tara Ariano and Kiki Palmer stand Krystal Farmer Tara 00:50 You better not be planning a pizza party. Krystal 00:55 She is extremely likable. Tara 01:00 Welcome to Extra Hot Great for another week before we get into this. Episode. It is the end of the month. 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Our episode. Our guest this week is a basketball sicko. You have heard with us many times before. It's Crystal Farmer. Dave 03:58 Welcome back. Tara 03:59 Welcome, Crystal. Sarah 03:59 Crystal. Dave 04:00 A sicko. Krystal 04:01 Thank you. That's uh it's a whole thing, Dave. Tara 04:03 Complimentary. Dave 04:04 Okay. Okay. Krystal 04:05 It's it's a positive. Tara 04:07 Crystal is back because we are, of course, talking about season two of Running Point. Netflix's sitcom about a Los Angeles basketball team that is not the Lakers. Season one ended on a cliffhanger after shepherding the waves to the ABL Finals, only for them to suffer a heartbreaking loss. Interim president Isla returned to her office to find her brother Cam, Justin Toreau, out of rehab for substance abuse and in her office chair. Season two picks up where we left off. Cam wants to come back, but he isn't interested in deposing Isla from her position, really. After Isla has agreed to bring him on as a consultant, there are fires to put out. She needs to hire a coach to replace Jay, J Ellis, get her chief of staff, Allie, Brenda Song, a long overdue raise, plan her wedding to Lev, Max Greenfield, with whom she has reconciled. figure out a better deal for Dyson, Uche Agata, the farm league player she scouted. It's always something, so it's nice that Cam actually turns out to be very helpful. Surely he doesn't have any ulterior motives he's hiding, right He might. The show is co-created by Ike Bernholtz, Mindy Kaling, Elaine Coe, and David Stassen. All ten episodes of season two dropped on Netflix April 23rd. We may talk about events from any of them. Let's do the chen check-in. Crystal, should our listeners watch Running Point season two? Krystal 05:32 Yes, they should. Tara 05:33 Sarah. Sarah 05:34 Yes, they should. Tara 05:35 Dave. Dave 05:36 Yeah Tara 05:36 I agree. We watched all ten episodes in a row in a sitting on Sunday and it was a good time. Let's get into it. Crystal, let's say you're a president of a basketball team. Your coach options are Danny from OU, played by Adam DiMarco, and Norm from Disgrace in Detroit, uh played by Ray Romano. If you're Isla, based on the information ahead of you, in front of you rather, are you hiring Norm as she does? Krystal 06:03 Probably not. I mean he's great. Obviously we love Frei Romano. Tara 06:09 Mm-hmm. Krystal 06:09 He's so fun. But you know, if you're trying to win games You don't necessarily hire the guy who, like you said, uh left his last job in disgrace. But I understand why she does it Right. I think if she were to hire the OU guy, he has a lot of ideas that are very likely going to put Isla out of a job and probably a lot of those players, you know, off the team, which is something she's trying to avoid. So were I her, I probably would if I wanted to win games go with the OU guy, but if I wanted to keep my job, I'd choose Norm. He's just a good time. I I like him a lot Dave 06:45 Or when Cam was so enamored with the UO coach who was basically coded as a tech bro in the conference suite that, you know, that wasn't going to happen. So it's just a question of Who's gonna be the corn fed, homegrown sort of guy that was gonna replace him? And I forgot that Ray Romano was casting this, so when he came up, I'm like, oh, that's perfect. And I cannot stand everybody loves Raymond, but I quite enjoy Ray Romano in this. And if you hired him, you know he would say, Crystal. Tara 07:10 Mm-hmm. Dave 07:12 Crystal! Krystal 07:15 That would be great. I'd love that. Yeah, I'm not a I'm not an Everybody Loves Raymond person either, but I I do like him when he pops up in anything else, like men of a certain Dave 07:21 Yep. Tara 07:22 Mm-hmm. Krystal 07:23 age and that show from a couple years ago was Kristen Miliotti, Billy Magnuson. Tara 07:27 Oh, made for love. Yes. Dave 07:28 Yeah. Tara 07:29 We just brought that up with when we were talking about the Audacity. Dave 07:31 Played played her father, yeah. Tara 07:32 Sarah, as our resident college basketball sicko, what what were your thoughts on the uh the coaching decision? Sarah 07:38 As a, you know, a router for a team that uh has recently gone through this process and you know like you're a fan so your job is to like listen to sports radio and either nod or fume Depending on who's talking, but this is, I think, this show's particular gift is that it's like basketball-y enough for basketball sickos Tara 08:03 Mm-hmm. Sarah 08:04 But it also understands that like this tension between do you hire the whatever Gen X or Boomer coach who like is part of the team family. So to say, and has, you know, like vibes versus algorithm c like Claude picking your lineup. So I think that it understands that these are tensions that are in every sport and every like work place, like in every aspect of life, and it n like can mine that narrative tension, but you don't need to know that much about basketball to enjoy it because these are just like stories about groups of humans that don't all agree about how things should go. Tara 08:48 Mm-hmm. Sarah 08:48 So I think that's the show's gift. But Carolina just let go a coach who was a, you know Bur of the Carolina family, like I could give you twelve paragraphs on that, easily I won't. You're welcome. But this process and like the things that it brings out in people which are like literally never good. Krystal 09:04 Viimein maan mihin hommoihin ja horoniinhomoniin hohooniniin hommiin hauniin. Sarah 09:08 I I think the show understands how to make that funny and understands that it's a workplace comedy that G you know, it's basketball-y enough uh they're not making mistakes or anything, as far as I know, but it's also like Okay, these are tensions everybody is dealing with in various parts of their lives. And here's how we're gonna make that universal is by making it very specific to this imaginary basketball team. Tara 09:36 Mm-hmm. Before we move off the coaches, Norm at the Pete's coffee by his condo with a full desktop computer set up and a Bathroom key attached to a whisk cause he's there every day was a very funny character detail. Sarah 09:51 Yeah. Tara 09:51 But also a reminder Ray Romano was a recast. Originally the new Waves coach was gonna be played by Robert Townsend, and I guess they like, you know, reconceived the character and so they had to recast. But I would love to know like what the brief was. for him. If for people who don't know, Robert Townsend was like most recently seen playing Sidney's father in The Bear. So it's a very, very different kind of a guy. Sarah 10:13 Yeah, especially since he's styled with this uh El Pacino in any given Sunday like cast to him. Tara 10:21 Mm-hmm Sarah 10:22 Maybe it's just the hair. Krystal 10:23 Mm-hmm. Sarah 10:23 That is like a completely different vibe performance. But then you also have Cameron Diaz as the brittle blonde ownership representative that I don't know interesting parallel there but yeah that's a whole different show Krystal 10:33 No, no, no. Dave 10:35 Yeah. Tara 10:40 The show lays the groundwork early for events in the middle of the season with Isla's many sexy fantasies about Jay, but Even if they had not, Dave, do we agree Lev and Isla had no business getting back together? This is the this I've discovered from our Discord thread is something you feel passionate about. Dave 10:59 It was more that I just don't understand how this character, this workaholic character, who's not like a super great person, can like net three suitors in the course of I I don't know what that was, four months, three months that we uh had in this uh second season. Like I think Lev dodged a bullet. Tara 11:15 Yes, that's what I was getting at. Dave 11:18 So, okay. I don't get that part of it. I mean I I suppose it's the Mindy Kaling of it all. Like everything is this fantasy version of a 90s rom-com. But that part didn't ring true to me. Tara 11:29 Yeah, uh huh Dave 11:30 And also while we're on the Mindy Kaling of it all, do you suppose her personal assistant has health insurance? Tara 11:35 Yeah question. Dave 11:38 Cause I I kinda wonder. I kinda think that maybe there's there's a chance she doesn't. Tara 11:42 Mm Dave 11:43 Cause that's a storyline here in the second season, a big one at the second half that the cheerleader squad of the waves just basically are getting like minimum wage or tips or whatever the hell it works. Tara 11:54 Or less. Yeah. Dave 11:56 And you know, they go on strike and they're uh demanding healthcare and all that kind of stuff. And then in a surprising scene in the conference room where the CEO boards all talking about it with Allie, who I thought would be the one person in that group. She's not a CEO, but she's like the PA to Island. Like everybody's like, oh fuck those what guys. How dare they want more money and healthcare? And what can we give them? And like the first thought is, well, we can't give them pizza. And then Likers like this. That was the plan all along to give them pizza. Tara 12:27 Mm-hmm. Dave 12:28 So that part of it was kind of surprising and it just kind of feels like It was there. We needed a measure in which to humanize the president of the waves. And I just didn't really buy that whole storyline, both the way it bubbled up, but also the reaction to it, which is, yeah. We'll do all those things you asked for instead of we'll find 30 more people to be our cheerleader squad, which would probably be the case. Tara 12:51 Well, that's yeah, that's initially the plan. But I it it there are a lot of episodes that sort of the premise of Starts with we have to do this thing and we don't have enough money and then by the end of the episode it's like, Well, we figured it out. Question mark? Like We can't give Dyson a raise. We can't give Allie a raise. We can't, you know, give the dancers what they deserve, and then like all of it just gets figured out. So Krystal 13:15 They keep saying like that this this franchise, the Waves franchise, you know, it's like a family business. Like a lot of the other franchises are owned by people who made money in tech or oil or what have you, um, and that this one they bought it when it was really cheap and it has become very profitable over the decades and like, oh, we just don't have the money because it's a family business. But like That's kind of not really true. Like one of the things that Isla or Ali keeps saying, or you know, sometimes sitcoms will do this where they're like, we need two people to have a conflict. So we're gonna create a conflict where one of the people is like very clearly in the right and the other one is very clearly in the wrong, but we're going to craft a story such that it seems like both sides have issues they need to overcome. Tara 13:50 Uh-huh. Krystal 14:01 And it's like Isla, if you're Allie's best friend and you are the billionaire owner of a sports franchise, like and she's like, Hey, can I get a raise? You probably should say yes if that's your best friend, you know? Tara 14:12 Mm-hmm. Yeah Krystal 14:14 Um and you don't have a right to get upset with her when you say no and she makes a choice that is better for her family financially. Sarah 14:14 Yeah Tara 14:21 Mm-hmm. Krystal 14:22 They again, like you're saying, Tara, they work it out, right? Like they get to a point where they're like, Okay, yes, we can do this and we're gonna do it and now everyone's a family again. We're all back together again. Dave 14:32 Yeah. Tara 14:32 Yeah. Krystal 14:32 Which is, you know, that's how sitcoms go. Dave 14:33 But all that happens in the backdrop of like signing superstar players that happen to become you know free agents that are giving them they're like uh we need $150 million and Krystal 14:34 So Dave 14:44 But we can't find a hundred twenty thousand dollars for healthcare benefits for like ten people or whatever it is. Tara 14:48 Mm-hmm. Dave 14:51 So like there's a lot of that and there's a lot of just so like shushing it away under the carpet. They don't really go into depth on all this. So they kinda wanna have their cake and eat it too. with some of these issues that they bring up. Tara 15:00 Yes Krystal 15:01 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Sarah 15:01 Well, but then it's not gonna be funny. Then it's like watching how the Pittsburgh Pirates are actually owned and how life is lived in that executive suite, which is not funny or entertaining. Tara 15:10 Mm-hmm. Sarah 15:16 So uh a like is there a show to be made that's sort of more of a drama, like satire of these ownership groups, sure, but I don't know if I want to watch something like that and get mad, so Some of this sitcom hand waving is necessary, I think, for it to still be a sitcom. Tara 15:38 No, I agree. I don't want to watch money either. That's boring. But there are other ways to create conflict between the characters. Dave 15:45 Right. But I mean why why bring it up if you don't want to actually follow through on the storyline? Tara 15:50 Right. Dave 15:50 That's all like I think it would have been a better call just to not have that storyline in the show. Tara 15:54 Totally Sarah 15:55 Yeah, but that's the caling of it all, like you were saying. Tara 15:57 Right. But also speaking of uh of Allie, like they sort of kept hinting through the whole season she's having problems with her husband. He wants to change careers, he's taking like classes at Flappers. And then she like moves to Toronto and they never say like oh she moves to Toronto and moves back right away. Like, did her husband and child go with her? Like we never find out. And then by the end of the season it's just like still unresolved. Dave 16:21 He uh he he was a big hit and they uh kept him at Second City and he Yeah Tara 16:21 So I don't know why they brought it up. Any of that. Sure. He got Nirvana the band the spot at the Rivoli. Dave 16:33 I know it's a comedy. Tara 16:34 Mm-hmm. Dave 16:35 But that portrayal of everything Canadian was so broad and ham fisted that I actually was sort of insulted by it. And that's not the kind of thing I'm usually insulted by. But like first of all the guys doing, I don't know, a voice out of Fargo or something like that. Tara 16:50 Yeah. Dave 16:50 It the whole thing was just lazy. Although I did enjoy the negative traffic filter they put on everything in Canada where it's almost grayscale with a touch of blue But everything to do with that storyline just was it it just like nails on a chalkboard to me. Tara 17:04 And if you want someone to play that part who is tall and sounds Canadian, Adam DeMarco, who played Danny, the guy from OU, is Canadian. He's from Toronto. Like, get him to do it. Krystal 17:14 Also, they kept bringing bringing up how that guy was like super hot. Sarah 17:14 Uh huh. Krystal 17:17 They could have just bat hired the OU guy, the guy they played the hired to play the OU guy to play that guy, because he was much, in my opinion, like more Tara 17:20 Right. Dave 17:22 Yeah. Krystal 17:26 Conventionally like a hot guy. Tara 17:27 Agree. Dave 17:27 It like it makes Blaine Canada look like Oscar winning screenplay in comparison. Like it was Like he gets a call and he has to like go pick up his kid from school because there's been a bear attack or something like that. I'm like, oh Jesus Christ. Tara 17:40 In Toronto. Dave 17:41 Yeah, in Toronto. Tara 17:42 Yeah. Dave 17:42 Yeah. Tara 17:43 Anyway. Dave 17:43 Anyways. Yes. Tara 17:44 Uh episode two introduces Al Fleischman, Toilet King of Orange County. He's played by Ken Marino. He has a big part throughout the season. Aside from Dawson's Creek, I'm basically never mad to see Ken Marino, but what did everyone think of what he did with a character? Let's start with Sarah. Sarah 17:59 I think this kind of character now is just his wheelhouse and he can be on autopilot. Not that he was, but it's like once you have hired Ken Marino for this part, then it is Ken Merino'd. So Tara 18:15 Yeah. Sarah 18:15 I I guess I could have been interested in a different idea of what this character is, but this is what Ken Marino does, and if he's available, just get him. So yeah, I thought it was fine. Tara 18:26 Mm-hmm. Well, and he's worked with Justin Thorew a bunch, and he's also his wife is a director and writer on the show, so it's probably easy to get him down there. Dave 18:32 Hmm. Sarah 18:32 Mm-hmm. So yeah. Dave 18:34 Yeah. Does anybody want that sequin toilet shirt he had on? Tara 18:37 Thank you. I was gonna bring that up. I do think you should make a t-shirt with toilet and gothic class text like we see him wear in a later episode. Sarah 18:41 Yeah. Dave 18:46 Sequin black letter toilet shirt. Sarah 18:46 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Tara 18:49 Yeah, Chrysal Sarah 18:49 Did not hate it. Krystal 18:52 I think the persona they're trying to trade on is there's a really famous uh Lakers. van named Jimmy Goldstein. You see him, he has a very specific look. He's like an older older white man with very long grey, like frizzy hair and he's always wearing black skinny jeans and like a giant hat, like bedazzled hat. He has a whole look I think he's just there to be seen, Jimmy Goldstein. I don't think he's like trying to get involved in the franchise in any way, but I think they're kinda playing off of those types, that that type of character where it's like Tara 19:27 Yeah Krystal 19:28 They're just like, I'm here to be seen. I wanna be in on the celeb of it all, even though like nobody knows that guy. Tara 19:34 Yeah, yeah Krystal 19:34 Like he's not he's not Ken Marino, the toilet king is not like a famous person, right? Like, but he wants to be, and that's kind of his whole his whole deal. So yeah, I I enjoyed that uh characterization. Tara 19:45 This is this is a very pleasurable Google image search of this guy. Just Google Jimmy Goldstein Lakers. This is someone who looks like he should be in a softies brothers movie like any minute now. Krystal 19:57 That is so you are so right, Tara. Sarah 19:58 Uh-huh. Krystal 20:00 Oh my gosh. I can't believe they haven't gotten a min w whenever they do one in LA, they gotta Tara 20:04 Yeah Krystal 20:04 They gotta get him in there, yeah. Tara 20:06 So Cam is back. He's also got a sober companion who is not very helpful. Uh play Blake Blake Anderson from Workaholics. I would love Blake Anderson to cut his hair and see what happens to his career. Because he sort of seems like a hairdo with a guy attached more so than an actor. Sarah 20:22 Uh-huh. Tara 20:24 One final note and then we can move on. Chet Hanks, really a lot less to do this season, possibly 'cause he was stuck in Columbia. Krystal 20:30 Mm-hmm. Tara 20:32 That was a story like a month ago. He had a problem with his passport, but um I I think it was the right call to s put him further in the background of of the team. Especially since anytime he's next to any other player, especially Dyson, he He's just so he's so wee. Krystal 20:47 Tiny, he's tiny, tiny man, yeah. Tara 20:48 He's just a little guy. Sarah 20:48 Yeah. He's teamy. Oh wait, I have a question before we move on. Tara 20:54 Yes Sarah 20:54 I didn't watch the whole season, so do we ever actually see John Stamos's gazelle-esque pi Gold balling play Damn it Stables Tara 21:01 Not this season, but you know, if it gets renewed, I can imagine he would be easy to book. Dave 21:07 But speaking about the fast, you get uh Scott Speedman in this season. Krystal 21:11 Mm, mm-hmm. Dave 21:12 And I just want to know, does anybody think Tara 21:12 Mm-hmm. Dave 21:15 that the hockey thing was meant to be a potential spin-off series because it kinda comes in and they already have two suitors Tara 21:19 Oh Krystal 21:19 Oh, yeah. Dave 21:22 And then Scott Speedman is the third, which seems like one too many. You don't really get the sense that they're like super clicking where he's the obvious choice. Tara 21:31 Mm-hmm. Dave 21:31 between him and the Jay. So I'm wondering maybe this is supposed to be, you know, like you know, whatever the running point equivalent, you know, right wing. Tara 21:40 Sure. Dave 21:41 Center ice. Krystal 21:42 Yeah, I don't know hockey terms, so you guys are gonna have to help me, Canadians. Tara 21:43 Yeah Dave 21:44 Yeah. Tara 21:46 You're asking the wrong people. Dave 21:48 Yeah. Tara 21:48 Yeah, I could see that. Especially with heated rivalry being so hot. Dave 21:49 Yeah Exactly. Sarah 21:52 Uh-huh Dave 21:52 I think like they maybe just lucked into it. Tara 21:54 Yeah. Dave 21:55 You know, it being a hockey thing and now Netflix is probably like, hey, you know, when you're done with RJ Decker, come over here and let's do this uh hockey thing and we need to hire fifteen gay guys so the whole team is gay in our show so it'll be even better. Tara 22:09 Yes, straight to series order. Krystal 22:10 That would be good. I'd watch that. Sarah 22:12 I'm in Krystal 22:13 But yeah. Tara 22:16 Yeah Clip 22:20 New fangled stories on my electric story box. Dave 22:25 I like how he said fifteen players, like I know how many people are in the hockey team. Tara 22:28 No, you don't. Krystal 22:28 I don't. Dave 22:29 I have no idea. Krystal 22:29 I was like, I'm sure that's right. Dave 22:30 That sounds right. Krystal 22:31 Dave Dave got it right. Dave 22:31 Dave's Canadian, he must know. Tara 22:31 Sure. Yeah Dave 22:33 It's time to go around the dial talking about what we've been watching on TV lately. First off, Tara. Tara, what do you got? Tara 22:38 So earlier this week I was planning to talk about Half Man in this slot. That's the new show from Richard Gadd, the star and creator of Baby Reindeer, but I watched the first episode. And my review is there's nothing worse than a man he thinks he's interesting. So instead I'm gonna talk about season fifteen of Call the Midwife. Dave 22:54 Ugh, how many births that could there possibly be in Britain left? Tara 22:58 Well, they've only gotten to nineteen seventy-two. Dave 22:58 They've delivered everybody. Well that's then that's when they stopped. Tara 23:04 They stopped making British people Dave 23:06 Mm, prop make. They stop making British people. Yeah. Tara 23:09 It's nineteen seventy-two, it is a changing world. The DHS is starting to streamline a lot of their processes and providers, including telling Sister Julianne that if the sisters of Nanata's house want to continue their district nurse services, they'll have to stop wearing their habits. and switch to standard nurse uniforms. And this is a big crisis because they consider themselves, you know, missionaries in the neighborhood. And so this is a big issue for sister Julianne to think about. Meanwhile, Sister Monica Joan is starting to show her age for real, including losing interest in sweets. If you can fucking believe it, that's how dire it is. Sarah 23:42 What? Oh no Tara 23:44 Nurse Rosalind and Cyril, the social worker slash pastor, are getting a lot closer, including taking a vacation together, for which Rosalind has prepared by getting on the pill. And Trixie's brother Jeffrey is around more and still fabulous. One of the sweetest storylines is his friendship with Sister Veronica, who is very interested in having a baby of her own. If you're a good person who supports PBS or a less good person who acquires episodes of the show through methods, or if you're neither good nor bad, you're just British. You've been able to watch to the end of the season already. I did that this weekend because I subscribe to PBS, no big deal. Definitely feels like a series finale, but officially it isn't. The creative team is pausing the show for a couple of years and they are gonna do a movie and a prequels spin-off and then it'll probably be at least partially a new cast when it comes back for series 16, whenever that is. Dave 24:38 Telegram the midwife, is that the prequel? Tara 24:38 Yes, Dave? It's literally called the midwife, run into the street and yell midwife and see what happens. Sarah 24:47 Yeah, open the window and scream, the midwife, the midwife. Yeah Tara 24:52 Yes. So the franchise is going fallow in one respect, but it's still going strong in others. So you won't have to wait too long for more opportunities to sob your eyes out. But even if this had been the end end, it would have been a satisfying way to stop, I feel. Dave 25:05 I don't want to tell them their business, but I think the other sequel should be the other end of it where it's about the Undertaker's called The Undertaker. Tara 25:05 Yes, Dave? Sure. Oh interesting. Dave 25:13 Yeah, it's sort of like a British six feet under. Tara 25:15 Yeah, I would watch that Dave 25:16 Yeah. Okay. Tara 25:18 For my plugs, Forte, the Los Angeles rescue that we got Gordon from, was robbed this weekend. They like basically the vehicle they use to do rescues was robbed and they stole like a lot of basic stuff. So they have urgent fundraising needs to replace tools like leashes and collars and microchip readers and dog food and more. So if you can We'll put the link in the show notes, but it's farescue. org slash donate. They good do good work, and if you ever loved a photo of Gordon, you know, give them even $5. They would appreciate it very much and put it to great use. And for my other plug, I mentioned it last week, but it actually went up on Friday, my post about the Rockford files at Defector, and we will link that as well. Dave 26:04 Alright Crystal, what do you got for us? And it better not be about basketball. Krystal 26:08 Oh no. Dave 26:09 Oh shit Krystal 26:09 Dave, I have bad news. It's about Sarah 26:11 This is a basketball podcast, Dave. Krystal 26:14 I know. Sarah 26:14 Come on. Krystal 26:14 Last week they turned you guys turned it into a basketball podcast is what I heard. Dave 26:17 That's right. Krystal 26:18 I watched, I think it was last week, the documentary Jerry West The Logo on Amazon Prime. If you are an NBA fan, you know that name if If you are not, I'll just describe who he is. He's a one of the kind of cornerstones of the early days of basketball becoming like a major sport. He was on the Lakers in the nineteen sixties and sort of is part of the origin of the Lakers Celtics rivalry. He played at the same time as Bill Russell, who was a Celtic star, and they had Like a number of battles in the playoffs, most of which the Lakers lost. Um if Pew know anything about Lakers' history, that's kind of was their deal for a while was they could never get over the hump of the Celtics. And then they eventually did in nineteen seventy two, which is something that kind of colored his how people thought of his career while he was still playing. But eventually after he stopped playing, he had much, much, much more success after uh becoming I think he was the coach for Laker of the Lakers for a couple of years and then became the GM and was instrumental in building the Lakers into A dynasty both in the 80s with the Showtime Lakers and then in the 90s and 2000s with uh Kobe and Jack. He was the person who drafted Magic Johnson. He was the person who drafted Kobe, convinced Shaq to come to the Lakers. He was just a very successful sort of executive front office person. He had very, very high highs professionally, but was a person to have very like low lows personally. He had a lot of sadness in in his life and we learned a lot about that in the documentary, particularly at early in his life and But yeah, I think it's a really interesting document to have because all of the interviews took place, I think, in 2023 and 2024, and Jerry West passed away in 2024. And, you know, we don't really have very many of the players from this era left anymore and so having a lot of him talking on the record about how he feels about all manner of things, um, was really, really interesting and fun and funny and you know, touching at times and sad at times, but I think it's a really interesting documentary if you're interested in like that period of the MBA and how it got to where it is today. Tara 28:33 Nice. Do you have anything you want to plug? Krystal 28:36 To keep it basketball related, I would just like to plug the WNBA. The new season is about to start on May 8th, and it's a really fun time to jump in if you're interested but you're like, I don't really not really that interested in what men are doing. You can check in with uh the WNVA um Dave 28:51 Of course. Tara 28:52 And I'm not Krystal 28:54 I mean Tepara you might be perfect for this because the first this is like the thirtieth year and so there's a lot of um Fufara around the 30th anniversary and there's also two new teams that are with their inaugural season this year at the Portland Fire and For the Canadians, the Toronto Tempo. So if you want to get in on the ground floor of like a new franchise and you don't want to jump on a bandwagon, this is like a really good time. So yeah, WMBA Sarah 29:23 Speaking of Amazon Prime, I am talking about killing grounds The Gilgo Beach Murders, which is a four-parter on Prime Video. It came out last week. The director, Emma Cooper, also directed Depp V. Heard. And I have to think that she watched the Gilgo Beach killer Rex Hoyerman lumbering into court earlier this month to give a guilty plea and wondered where that left. Her docuseries the it's clear from some like evolving text cards in the docuseries that you know, events were unfolding while they were editing. They were able to pivot enough, I think, to stay relevant, but the question with this and with any documentary about this topic is relevant to what? Robert Colker's Lost Girls already exists. Jibby the King by Gus Garcia Roberts already exists and covers a lot of this story and what makes it. greater than the sum of the case file, which is centering the victims as though that's the natural thing to do, which I think the culture now thinks it is. Krystal 30:29 Mm-hmm. Sarah 30:35 That's more the default now. not standing in judgment of sex workers and people who have become involved, enmeshed with substance misuse This is standard now. Some of these properties talking about these cases 10 years ago, 15 years ago, I think helped. That shift along. But now talking about this case, it's like, well, it's either not adjudicated yet, or it is adjudicated and there's nothing else to say, or In the case of Rex Heuerman, he took this deal probably so he could gas on to the behavioral science unit about how clever he was with these monstrous crimes, but for a documentarian it's like, well, what's the play? And I'm actually not totally sure that it knows where its story is. The early going of Killing Grounds was not promising for me. a lot of reenactments that were on the border of okay taste, in my opinion. Using Nancy Grace B roll, never a thing that I enjoy. Seeing spooky B roll of Gilgo Beach at Twilight, like Does this have to be four parts? Does this have to be at all? There's some timeline confusion where a woman who is in a lot of talking heads as an interviewee, uh, it turns out she passed away a few years ago. That's not Chiron anywhere. That seems bad. But it grew on me like I wound up watching the whole thing. Which like I watch these things for a living usually You get a sense pretty early on that it's just gonna be that like, here's a teaser for itself at the top of episode two and you know exactly what you're getting. You could read some of my criticism as like, is this cynical obfuscation? Is this sloppiness? I don't think so. I think that It is Cooper wanting to leave the voices of families and survivors as entire and forceful as she can The compelling moments in Killing Grounds had me pausing it to scribble notes about how you don't usually hear comments like that or from these voices. And that's why I stuck with it to the end. They felt authentic and significant. And sometimes I wanted whole episodes or documentaries on those Krystal 32:55 Maintenant j'imagine ma mumina junior mini ma Sarah 32:56 points of view like the survivor's guilt that other sex workers are and were feeling around this case. A ABC reporter just talking about how she's been on this case from the beginning and it's put you know, sput years on her. A co-worker of Hoyerman saying she was a survivor, why didn't she see what was in him? And it's like, this is how these monsters survive because they don't let you see and the victims never stood a chance and the way that she puts it is really, I don't know, like you don't want to use the word uh fresh in this context, but it was like just a little bit different, a couple of degrees to one side of the usual points of view that you get. Tara 33:34 All right. Sarah 33:39 So I do have some notes about the series. It's not gonna be for everyone, but I would say give it a try for an episode and there's glimmers of the real story. in here that make it worth your while, I think. My full review is at bestevidence. fyi and we'll link that in the show notes. Dave 33:58 Alright, here's what's coming up in the weeks ahead. We are taking a couple weeks off for some jerks' birthday. On EHG Primes, we have these for you. 6. 13 is going to be an all-canon special. 6. 14 is going to be glistener game time, which we just recorded and it was super fun. And then we'll be back live in the studio for a 6. 15, which is going to be something absolutely amazing that will blow your socks off. You'll be like, holy fuck! Tara 34:26 Mm-hmm, yeah. Dave 34:26 That's what you're going to be saying. And then on EHG's, we're going to have Widow's Bay This Friday, a show that we've already dipped into, and it's so far I am liking it. And then week after that, for 408, we're going to be talking about legends. And then after that, 409, we'll be dipping into the May forcening, and that is Blue Mountain State. So go to extrahotgrate. com slash club to find out more about joining and what you get. And uh we will see you then. Goodbye. Tara 35:00 Perfect. Dave 35:00 Yeah. It is time for the Extra Hot Great canon presenting this week. It is Julie. Julie, take it away. Clip 35:14 Like a sock-clad Bert Cooper singing and dancing to the wistful The Best Things in Life Are Free, Season 7, Episode 8 of Mad Men, Waterloo, performs an elegant soft shoe. A satisfying balance of sad, funny, and hopeful. It's an episode of endings and beginnings, for characters, marriages, the firm, and the nineteen sixties. If I were nominating this for a tiny canon, the category would be should have been the series finale It's july nineteen sixty nine, and the moon landing is imminent. In lesser hands this historical event becomes an overwrought metaphor. Krystal 35:42 Rumiini on Clip 35:45 But not on madmen, where the reality of a few men floating in a tin can to touch the face of God excites, terrifies, and ultimately galvanizes our characters. Witnessing the greatest technological achievement of the decade, via nineteen sixties primitive media, is a great and hilarious irony. The show has so much fun telling and showing. The clash of old and new technology is of course a favorite of the show. Krystal 36:04 Human mahmoihin hahomin ja ohjelmointi Clip 36:07 Harry, being continually dismissed as a joker, despite being the future with his media bison computer, represents the terror that can come with the dawn of a new era This episode ostensibly showcases men who have to overcome their own fears to lead. The astronauts first and foremost, and then Roger, Don, Bert, Ted, and even grouchy Jim Cutler, but not Pete, of course. He's still a stinker. But they all lead out of fear. Not the women. I think the episode is actually toying with the mythology of astronauts' bravery to comment on women's strength. This is referenced a few times. In a brief moment with Sally Draper announcing her physical strength to her hunky house guest, Don's Rick Rack Waring Secretary Meredith offering to be Don's strength and Megan, demuring when Don offers to take care of her. But it's Peggy Olson who demonstrates it best of all. Peggy contains multitudes In this scene she's having work done on her building and we see her grappling with her own competing and conflicting identities. Who will she be today? The successful career woman, the flirt, or the mother? Clip one. Hello. Oh, I'm sorry. Where's Casmir? I get to run downtown. Oh. Well, it looks like you're doing a good job. Once you get the grid up, just try not to break the tiles. I'm Peggy, by the way. I'm Nick. Got a lot of books So hot in here. Would you like some iced tea? Cash will give you a discount. Your son was a big help. My son? Oh, Julio. No, he's my neighbor I own the building. Oh yourself? What's in history being made? I was very clear I am not paying before it's finished. That's my number. In case you have any odd jobs to smoke for cas. Uh oh, thank you. But are you sure that your brain isn't getting overturned? Good night. Good night. Good night, kid. The way she goes from flirty to businesslike to girlish in a matter of seconds is excellent. And in case we forgot that Peggy once had a baby she gave up for adoption. We are reminded of that in the next scene at her Upper West Side Townhouse. Can I watch TV? I'm sorry, you can't. I'm working. Wait, get in here This is a suit and it has a skirt and it has gray in it, which is what men wear. And this is a dress and it's pretty, but I might be sweating, but not just because it's July. Forget it. I gotta watch Sunday. That's when they're supposed to land. I'm sorry, but I'm going to be in Indianapolis. Why? Because we're presenting to Burger Chef Monday morning. I know the astronauts may not make it, and then what are we gonna say? Oh. I'm sorry. They're going to be fine. It's not fair. You know what? I'll give you the key and you can come down and watch yourself Just don't use the stove again. I don't want to go to Newark. Nobody does. My uncle has a house and he got my mom a job. I don't want to leave You're moving? That's okay. Maybe you'll have a yard You want your mom to have a job, don't you? She don't care about me. Yes, she does. That's why she's moving. Family is another resonant theme throughout the series, and Peggy's relationship with her 10-year-old neighbor has a certain early 70s sitcom vibe about it. Although Norman Lear single mothers yet to come, but just as she has made a makeshift family with her neighbor, she has also made one with her co-workers, and we see them together watching this successful moon landing. The next day, in a room where the only other woman present is clearly an assistant, Peggy nails the pitch. She's taken Don's words, twisted them, and made them her own. Clip three But tonight I'm going to go back to New York and I'll go back to my apartment and find a 10-year-old boy parked in front of my TV eating dinner. Now, I don't need to charge you for a research report that tells you that most television sets are not more than six feet away from the dinner table. And that dinner table is your battlefield and your prize. This is the home your customers really live in. This is your dinner table. Dad likes Sinatra, son likes the Rolling Stones. The TV's always on. Vietnam playing in the background. The news wins every night And you're starving. And not just for dinner. What if there was another table where everybody gets what they want when they want it? It's bright and clean. And there's no laundry, no telephone, and no TV And we can have the connection that we're hungry for. There may be chaos. Well But there's family supper at Burger Chef. The astronauts land safely, and so do the rest of the characters in this episode. It closes with the delightful song and dance by Bert Cooper, but to me the fitting symbol of his arc is the looming presence of artist Jackson Pollack's abstract masterpiece one that hangs behind him as he watches TV. Knowing how meticulous Mad Men was about history, I hope to learn the painting was donated to the Museum of Modern Art in July 1969, and that the person who donated it was an advertising executive. Alas, it was not. It came to the museum a year earlier. Jackson Pollock made the painting in nineteen fifty, and part of its notoriety was that a photographer was there to capture it all, at first shocking, and then accepted by the vanguard. Pollock and his irreverent black and white drips fueled an artistic movement. But by nineteen sixty nine, the painting had become a museum piece no longer shockingly new, and eclipsed by the next big thing, minimalism and other art movements on the rise. By then Bert II was a relic. His death, sad as it was, was his final act of bravery, and the only way for our madmen characters to move into the future. And so to this esteemed panel, I beg you, please vote in Waterloo into the Canon. Tara 43:15 Thank you, Julie. Crystal, you selected this. Please start us off. Krystal 43:20 Yeah, so I picked this because Mad Men is my favorite drama of all time. I was obsessed with it when it aired and for the entire run. of the series. Not to brag, but I did watch it from the very moment that it aired. I was one of the few people that was like tuned in to AMC. I was like, they have a show? That's weird. But I loved it. But then I feel like people fell off of the show and, you know, it lost some of the power and I think it was because the show kind of narrowed its focus and you lose some of the characters that I thought were so interesting. And you also lose a lot of the business intrigue, which is part of, I think, the thing that made the show interesting in the first place. Like I I assume there are other shows about advertising that have existed before Mad Men, but this one felt very realistic and um what is the word you guys always use? Uh processy it felt very processy. You know, you're really getting into the details of how it actually worked in the sixties when this show was set. But then also I think people fell off because the show like narrowed its focus to Dawn. I think Dawn is like fundamentally an unknowable character and probably isn't gonna change very much. So to see spend two seasons watching him kind of like crash out was really not that satisfying because we know at the end of the day he's probably gonna do the same things he's always been doing and one of the things he's gonna do is continue to be good at advertising. So we could have just seen that for the other, you know, two seasons if that was going to be the case. Tara 44:45 Uh-huh. Krystal 44:47 But I think this episode is so wonderful because it gets back to all of the things that made the show very good in the early seasons. When I was re-watching it this morning, I realized that it reminded me so much of my favorite episode of the show, which is the season, I think it's three. finale, shut the door, have a seat, which is like uh it's the best episode in my opinion because you get everything that makes the show like really good, right? Sarah 45:07 Mm-hmm. Krystal 45:14 Like you get you get the focus on Don's like personal life crumbling and his professional life sort of kind of crumbling, but he figures away out a way to get it like back on track. All of the characters kind of coming together to sort of do this thing in the shut the door have a seat. They're trying to like it's essentially a heist episode where they're taking all of their clients and staff and starting their own agency and here it's similar, right? Like they're kind of trying to save the agency. in the wake of Cutler, I believe, trying to like jettison Dawn, you know, we get a lot of the kind of fun balancing of tones, right? Some of this episode is like quite sad and quite dark But then you have a lot of funny kind of moments like with Peggy and or with Pete or Harry like you have a lot Harry's always obviously the comedic uh foil for a lot of characters, which I think is really uh fun. I love Rich Summer in this care in this uh role. And you have a lot of the like magical realism kind of filmmaking, right? Which they do in shut the door, have a seat with Don's flashbacks to his childhood and here you get it with the Bert Cooper sopshoe at the end and his farewell, which was really more devastating than I remember. Like I watched this episode and I was like, why am I crying? Like I've seen this episode like ten times. But it was it was really wonderful. And obviously the sort of centerpiece is the Peggy Burger Chef pitch, which you know, you get some of that in the shut the door have a seat of Peggy coming into her own and being like, I'm not just your pet Dawn, like I'm my own person with my own like direction that I want to go in and it It's not always the direction you're going in, right? And here we see her kind of like slide right into that Don role, like you know, at Dawn's insistence, sort of being like They're gonna like ship me off and if they do, we're gonna lose this business, so you take it. And she does, and she does such a good job. I'm watching Peggy like give the Burger Chef pitch and I'm like fist pumping and I'm like, all she's doing is standing there talking and it's like silent and everyone's watching her. But I'm like, a show can turn like a show that can turn that moment into like a fist pumping like climax is like an amazing show. But like yeah, I just think this episode's really great and it t to me is up there with the best episodes of the sh show from the first half reminds us that it could still do those things even though it was choosing to sort of go in a different direction. So yeah, I I really love this episode and I'm interested to hear what you all have to say about it Tara 47:42 Well, Sarah, no one wants to go to Newark, but why don't you go next? Sarah 47:48 Just that nobody does was was so good. Oh, poor Newark. I had not seen this episode in a while. I think probably not since it aired should have been the series finale would be an excellent tiny canon placement for this, I guess, if that were possible to do, or like an alterna canon, because the late Tara 48:03 Mm-hmm Sarah 48:09 Great Robert Morris doing his like literal soft shoe like I think he just had socks on, as Bert tended to do in the office And then the occasional cutback to Don watching him and the inscrutable but also somewhat knowable sometimes way like his eyes are filling up and s he's bereft, but also filled with wonderment at at this dancing apparition. Played by a man who played Truman Capote on Broadway. I think he won awards for that performance, Robert Morse. So I've always loved that moment and I loved that the show did it because it was very true to the character. Overall, I would say that this episode is good at doing what the show, like Crystal said, was good at in earlier seasons before it just started kind of picking at the scab of Don's alcoholic narcissism and not that the performance wasn't good and not that it wasn't compelling in its way. But the show sometimes seemed to struggle with how to signal to the viewer that it understood that Don was a difficult person to know, not just hard to know what he's thinking, but just like hard to be around a lot of the time. and not have it feel like characters were sort of like Mario suing or sort of being an audience voice. Cutler wasn't was excellent writing and casting for that purpose, but it didn't feel too contrived. the moment also at the end of this, or in the middle of this episode where the marriage to Megan, just like the last gossamer threads holding it to itself, they both hear them snap on this phone call, I thought Megan was a sort of better and more useful character and a good portrayal than I think a lot of people. But I was also fully on the let's unpack every season seven episode for evidence of DB Cooper train, so the fuck do I know. But I thought that was really wonderfully observed and not overplayed. I think all the elements of different families and how they assemble and reassemble were really lightly and beautifully done and I think other episodes in these last two seasons would have made much more of the paternal role that Bert played for Don. This one didn't overplay it. There was a lot of humor, but also just a lot of uh rue. You know, not hammering it too hard, but just a lot of like regret. A little bittersweetness and the show at this point was not always very good at balancing that, especially since I think everybody knew that this was the this was the home stretch for it. So it was nice to revisit this and it was nice to just like have Harry be the very reliable butt of jokes. And he's like, I'll take the deal. Goodbye, Harry. And he just storms out in his plaid pants. And Pete is being a pill, but not too annoying. I mean, it really was like a perfectly balanced episode that this late in the run was a little harder to a little more uncommon and unexpected. So it was a delight, even though uh Jersey caught some strays, that's just that's just life. Tara. Tara 51:24 Yeah, I agree with Julie and Sarah that this should have been the season f the sorry, the series finale, not just because of where it leaves everyone, but because the show started just before the presidential campaign of nineteen sixty and then ending you know, if you started there, sort of this real start of the sixties with Kennedy and then end on the moon landing that sort of feels like, okay, that's the end of the sixties unless you're gonna do an episode on Ultimate. Sarah 51:49 Mm-hmm. Tara 51:52 That's w you know, that's a wrap. Krystal 51:54 Mm-hmm. Tara 51:54 on this really. Sarah 51:54 Yeah. Tara 51:55 But I thought Julie made a beautiful argument and I agree with so much of what both of you have already said. There's there's so much to see in this episode. There's so much of all of the characters still like Roger reminding everyone that he is not completely useless. Like he hasn't just totally checked out. He does have a function at the Sarah 52:15 Mm-hmm. Tara 52:15 firm at the agency and this is it. It's like to sort of save it in the 11th hour. And that he he seems to know maybe more than anyone else that he's on his way out. like this job is not gonna be as important now in the era of like, you know, media buys and computers, but this is something he can do now to let Dawn continue making great ads and Don's protege also. I w I wish I could have been there when it occurred to them, the writers of this episode, Carly Ray and Matthew Matt Weiner, that the song should be The moon belongs to everyone, the best things in life are free because it's so pr it's it is on the nose, but they do so much with it the So lovely, like yes, the moon belongs to everyone, and the best things in life are free, unlike everything, all the bullshit you're trying to sell all the time, like burger chef, you know. Sarah 53:05 Mm-hmm. Tara 53:07 Peggy's pitch is great, but then when you when you stand back from it, it's like, yeah, but it's for like this down market shitty, not even McDonald's level product. Krystal 53:09 Tämmöinen hominen ammiin. Tämä on ammoniuminen mihin. Tara 53:17 that this is still what has to go into it and this is what passes for art in this industry. Like we you can appreciate it and then also be like, come on. Which I think the show always had that sort of Sarah 53:26 Mm-hmm. Krystal 53:26 Mm-hmm. Tara 53:28 Come on, attitude at the end of the day of what they were really doing too. I loved this episode and I did not want to keep watching. I felt like they should have stopped it here, even though We hadn't gotten the real series finale. Maybe John Hamm would not have ever met his beautiful wife, because she was in that episode as well. Dave 53:47 Uh let's make this official. Crystal, what do you say on Waterloo? Krystal 53:52 Yes, canon worthy Dave 53:53 Alright, Tar. Tara 53:54 Me too Dave 53:55 Sarah? Alright, that makes it a sweep. So Mad Men, Mad Men, Season 7, Episode 7, Waterloo, you're hereby inducted into the Oxtrahog Ray Cannon. Clip 54:17 Americans love a winner Yup and we'll not tolerate a loser. Nope Dave 54:23 All right, it's time to discover the winner and loser of the week. Sarah has this week's winner. Sarah 54:28 I do. It is Tessa Stewart, who's reporting on the Zizian cult for Rolling Stone, is now being developed as a docuseries at HBO. I think that's the perfect place for that. And for her work, Stuart has a uh I don't know, like not first person exactly, but there's a way about the reporting that I think is best served by the gold standard of these HBO having charge of it. So um looking forward to that Dave 54:58 And Loser of the Week. Tara 54:59 Well, we talked about Jill Zaren a few months abo ago when she showed her ass. complaining that there weren't any white people in the halftime show at the Super Bowl. And she's back. Now she's getting sued by what else? her pickleball startup. She uh partnered with someone who invested half a million dollars in this business that was creating some kind of piece of pickleball equipment. I don't know and I will not find out Dave 55:27 They were pickling the balls. Tara 55:31 Anyway, Jill Zarens says that her you know her track record is clean, she's never lost any of the times she's been sued, and I just feel like If you can point to more than one example where that's happened, you're not doing great in life. Worst of luck to jail, Zaren. Go to hell. Dave 55:48 Speaking about not doing great in life, do you know what time it is? Tara 55:50 Pickleball time? Sarah 55:50 Gotta be game time. Dave 55:52 It is game time. Tara 55:52 Oh. Dave 56:05 Picking up from our last regulation game time in episode 609. This is the eighth of the season. The scores are Tara with four. Still in the cusp of season victory. Sarah won the last one, so she's at one and value guests have two. Today we're playing TV popularity contest. Three from Miles, who earns himself an extra credit topic of his choosing, plus a free shirt at the EHE store at thrumethods. com. It has been a year and a half since our last edition of this, and to remind you how it is played, the goal of this game is to figure out who is the most popular cast member from a particular show, not top build. But the most popular, according to the crazy people at IMDB. That includes polls, how fast they rise up the charts, how many searches there are for them, all that goes into the algorithm for the most popular on IMDB So in round one, I am first going to read you from a particular show the top build actors, just to give you a flavor of who's in it in case you need reminding. And then we will go in turn. You will guess who is the most popular actor, according to IMDB from that show. If you guess the most popular actor, I'm gonna give you four points. If you guess the fourth most popular, I'll give you one. That's sort of scoring system. Make sense? Tara 57:26 Yes. Dave 57:27 Alright. Sarah 57:27 Yeah. Dave 57:27 There is a round two and a round three. Basic rules are the same, but I'll get into the details when we hit that. Tiebreaker available if needed. No steel nails, no Grossworth Equalizer Challenge Zone, so let's go straight to Piggy to see our order today. Clip 57:44 We will start with valued guest. Dave 57:46 Okay, so that means you get first guess at who is the most popular. Everybody is gonna submit one for every question. Alright, here we go. Our first show is Brooklyn99. The top build actors are Andy Sandberg, Stephanie Beatrice, Terry Cruz, and Melissa Famero. Now, Crystal, you have to tell me who is the most popular, and they have to be in five or more episodes So it could be a regular cast member, but it also could be like a recurring guest star. And you have to think who is the most popular. And this may In your thought process, bring you outside of the show. You know, if Keanu Reeves was on Brooklyn 99, he might be in the most popular list of Brooklyn 99 actors. Clip 58:29 I want to call it and bull there. I want to hit Koraka. Krystal 58:32 Mm, mm, mm, I see, I see, yeah Dave 58:35 Alright, so with all that in mind, Crystal, you get first crack at the most popular actor from Brooklyn 99. Clip 58:37 I want to cut and bull. I want to hit Koraka. Krystal 58:42 Oh my gosh, this is really hard. Um Uh I there are two in my head that I'm thinking of. I'm just gonna say Andre Brower Dave 58:52 All right, Andre Brower to Tara Tara 58:56 I'm gonna say Jason Manzukas. Dave 58:59 All right, Serity Bunting. Sarah 59:01 I'm gonna go Sandberg. Dave 59:03 Alright, I'm gonna go bottom up, so fourth to first most popular. Fourth, Jason Manzukas for one point. Sarah 59:10 Chop Dora Dave 59:10 Third, Kira Sudgwick, three points. Tara 59:13 Uh sure Dave 59:13 Nobody guessed that one. Andy Samberg clocking in at number two. So Sarody Bundy gets three points. Clip 59:18 I want to go a cable and I have a bomb. Dave 59:19 Nobody, number one, Stephanie Beatrice, the most popular actor. Tara 59:22 Really? Krystal 59:23 Oh oh probably. Tara 59:24 Hm Dave 59:24 Don't forget, last time we played this, you have to count the Horndogs. Tara 59:27 Right, right, of course. Dave 59:28 The Horndogs were a big part of some of the listings here. Sarah 59:28 Yeah. Dave 59:32 All right. So is on to the next show. Tara 59:35 I'm one of the horn dogs that got Andy his placement, so you're welcome, Sarah. Dave 59:39 Tara, you'll be guessing first for Girls 5 Eva. Sarah 59:39 Thanks. Tara 59:43 Okay. Dave 59:44 We've got Sarah Borelis. Tara 59:46 Mm-hmm. Dave 59:46 Busy Phillips, Paula Pell, and Renee Elise Goldsbury. Tara 59:51 Mm-hmm. Dave 59:52 Those are the top build, not necessarily the most popular on IMDB. Who do you think is the most popular? Tara 01:00:01 I'm so touring, but I'm gonna say vi busy Phillips. Dave 01:00:04 All right, two sir. Sarah 01:00:05 I mean, this isn't really the Horndog vote, but actually, you know what, Goldsbury. Dave 01:00:10 Goldsbury. Krystal 01:00:11 Dang. Dave 01:00:11 All right, and Crystal, who do you think? Krystal 01:00:13 I was gonna pick Goldsberry. Um I don't know, Sarah Borellis, I guess. Dave 01:00:18 All right, here are your rankings. Coming in at number four is Goldsbury, one point. Busy Phillips is third for two points. Tara 01:00:27 Okay. Dave 01:00:28 Ashley Park is second for three points. And Paula Pell, number one, a surprising number one, but good for her. Tara 01:00:33 Hey, good for Paula. Krystal 01:00:33 Oh nice. I love that for her, yeah. Sarah 01:00:35 I was gonna guess ball it but I was like is that a whore dog? Is that a whore dog trap? Oh Tara 01:00:41 I was thinking Dean Winters, he was the other one that I was torn with, but I'm glad I didn't say it because he is not ranked, apparently. Sarah 01:00:44 Oh right, fuck. Dave 01:00:48 All right, Sarah Bunting, you'll be up first for the next show, which is Girls. Girls, Lena Dunham, Allison Williams, Jamaica Kirk. Clip 01:00:53 I want to go. Dave 01:00:56 and Adam Driver. But who is the most popular actor from Girls that was in more than five episodes? Five or more episodes. Sarah 01:01:06 I am torn because driver, but also I think Ebon Moss back rack I'm gonna fuck it. Richie. Evan Moss Back Rack is my guess. Dave 01:01:18 All right, Crystal. Krystal 01:01:19 I was gonna say Adam Driver. Dave 01:01:21 Alright, Tara. Tara 01:01:22 Allison Williams, I guess. Dave 01:01:24 Alright, here we go. Coming in at number four. I always forget how to say her name. Zosha Mammoth. Zosha. Zosha Mammoth. Sarah 01:01:30 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:01:31 Coming in at number three for two points is Mr. Adam Driver. Second place, Jake Lacey. And number one, Allison Williams, our first bullseye. Tara 01:01:38 Oh, okay. Krystal 01:01:38 Oh. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Tara 01:01:40 What okay. Dave 01:01:41 That is four points for Tara. Sarah 01:01:41 Good job, Jara Krystal 01:01:41 Wow. Gosh. Tara 01:01:43 Thank you, Horn Dogs Krystal 01:01:44 I'm so bad at this. Okay, I gotta start thinking like a horn dog. Dave 01:01:47 All right, next show, Chris Phil, you'll be starting us off. It is News Radio, David Foley, Steven Root, Andy Dick, my attorney. Who is the most popular? Could be one of them, could be somebody else. Krystal 01:02:01 I'm gonna say this name and I hate saying it, but I'm gonna say Joe Rogan. Sarah 01:02:06 You gotta do it. Dave 01:02:06 Joe Rogan. Tara 01:02:07 You gotta, unfortunately Dave 01:02:08 All right, Tara Tara 01:02:10 Um Stephen Root. Dave 01:02:15 All right, Steven Root, Sarah D. Krystal 01:02:15 Ah c'est que Dave 01:02:17 Bunting. Sarah 01:02:18 Hartmann, oh job Dave 01:02:19 Hartman. All right, here are your bankings coming in. Number four, Candy Alexander. Krystal 01:02:24 Oh, nice. Dave 01:02:25 Coming in third, Patrick Warburton. Tara 01:02:28 Ah okay Dave 01:02:28 Coming in second, Steven Root. Krystal 01:02:29 Okay Dave 01:02:31 And number one, my attorney. Tara 01:02:34 Really? Dave 01:02:34 My attorney, more attorney. All right, happy endings is our next show. We're going to start with Tara. Tara 01:02:41 Alicia Cuthbert. Dave 01:02:41 We got Elza Coop, Alicia Kutbert, Zach Dory Knighton, Adam Pally. Tara 01:02:42 Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Right. Dave 01:02:50 Alright, Tara, you're first. Tara 01:02:52 Yeah, I'm gonna stick on Alicia Cuthbert. Dave 01:02:54 Alright, Sarah. Sarah 01:02:57 Wayans Dave 01:02:58 Alright. Krystal 01:02:58 Dang it. Dave 01:02:59 Crystal Krystal 01:03:00 I was gonna say Damien Wyans too. Um Adam Pally Dave 01:03:04 All right, here are your rankings. Clip 01:03:05 Yeah, you don't want to go to the body. Dave 01:03:06 Number four, Casey Wilson. Tara 01:03:08 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:03:09 Number three for two points, Damon Waynes Jr. Tara 01:03:12 Nice Sarah 01:03:13 I'll take it. Dave 01:03:14 Second place for three points, Liza Coop. And number one, Alicia Cuthbert. Krystal 01:03:19 I am so bad at this. Sarah 01:03:19 Oh. Dave 01:03:19 Four points for Tara. Krystal 01:03:21 This is amazing. Tara 01:03:21 That was just the luck of the draw. Dave 01:03:22 Yep. Alright, here's our last one for round one. We're talking about Star Trek Strange New Worlds. We got Melissa Navia or Navia. Tara 01:03:29 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:03:33 Hanson Mount, Ethan Peck, Christina Chong. But that's just billing. Who's the most popular according to IMDB? Sarah 01:03:39 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:03:41 Bum bum bum. Serity Bunding, you're starting us off. Sarah 01:03:45 I don't which which direction which axis is the horn doggery Tara 01:03:49 Right. Dave 01:03:50 Hair base searches, Sarah 01:03:52 I don't which is why I'm gonna hope Gen X is staying horny for Rebecca Romain. Dave 01:04:00 All right. Tara 01:04:00 Ugh, shit, that's what I was gonna say. Dave 01:04:02 Crystal, you're next. Krystal 01:04:03 Uh, I don't know the show at all, so I'm gonna say Anson Mount. Dave 01:04:07 All right, Tara, all your picks gone. Tara 01:04:07 Fuck. Sarah 01:04:08 Good call Tara 01:04:11 Yes, I guess I'll say Paul Wesley, who plays Kirk. Clip 01:04:13 Oh, Dave 01:04:14 Wesley. Sarah 01:04:15 Oh, smart Tara 01:04:15 Wesley. Dave 01:04:16 Alright, here we go. Fourth most popular for one point Anson Mount. Tara 01:04:21 Nice, good job. Dave 01:04:23 Third most popular, Carol Kane. Sarah 01:04:26 Oh, yeah. Krystal 01:04:26 Oh, nice Dave 01:04:26 Second most popular, Rebecca Romaine, three points. Sarah 01:04:30 Yay Dave 01:04:31 Number one, Paul Wesley for four points. Tara 01:04:34 Shut up! Sarah 01:04:35 Nice so smart. Krystal 01:04:35 Oh my God the heck Dave 01:04:37 And that is round one. Tara 01:04:40 Damn, the Vampire Diaries fandom's still out here. Sarah 01:04:40 Holy shit Krystal 01:04:42 I'm so bad at this. Sarah 01:04:43 We're absolutely getting killed, Crystal Tara 01:04:43 Good for them Krystal 01:04:46 I don't understand the they're like, I'm not out of the strategy. I'm bad at it. Dave 01:04:50 All right, let's get the scores, please. Tara 01:04:52 Okay, Crystal has three, Sarah has nine, I have eighteen. Dave 01:04:57 All right. Well, the good news is in round two, all the scores double. So it's eight, six, four, and two points, depending on how well you do. Krystal 01:05:04 Good Tara 01:05:06 Okay, great. Dave 01:05:08 And you do not get any top build actors. So you do not get any clues as who's on the shows. Sarah 01:05:11 Oh shit, all right. Tara 01:05:12 Okay Dave 01:05:14 But these are all well-known shows. I don't think you'll have too much trouble. So let's get into it with our first show. Crystal will start us again with Arrested Development, the OG series. So I guess they're listed separately. Clip 01:05:28 And don't like don't like bumper and don't like it. Krystal 01:05:28 Michael Sarah, I don't know. Dave 01:05:29 All right, Michael Sarah Tarr. Tara 01:05:32 Jason Bateman Dave 01:05:34 Sarah. Sarah 01:05:35 Uh, I think Bateman's the call, but I then will Clip 01:05:38 Yeah. Sarah 01:05:41 Choose the following actor who is named uh ooh Portia Daracy. Tara 01:05:42 The following Dave 01:05:43 Which is All right, here are your listings. Sarah 01:05:50 I'm gonna regret that Dave 01:05:53 Number four, Ben Stiller. Number three, four points, Jason Bateman. Krystal 01:06:00 Right, right, right. Dave 01:06:00 Coming in at number two, Charlie Suron from season three. Tara 01:06:04 Right. Sarah 01:06:06 Right Dave 01:06:06 Number one, Isla Fisher. Tara 01:06:08 Okay. Dave 01:06:10 My wife. So uh only Jason Bateman scored for you guys. Krystal 01:06:15 Gosh. Dave 01:06:16 All right. Tara, start us off. Sarah 01:06:18 I hate this. Dave 01:06:19 We're talking about Dawson's Creek. Dawson's Creek Tara 01:06:25 Well I mean, are people searching him more because he duh? I'm still gonna say Joshua Jackson Dave 01:06:33 All right. I will let you know this game came in it towards the end of February, so it's all very recent. Clip 01:06:34 I want to go with and wanna make a code and wanna hit a Tara 01:06:37 Okay. Dave 01:06:38 The rankings, the popularity choices. Sarah 01:06:38 Oh Tara 01:06:39 I'm still gonna stick on Jackson. Dave 01:06:41 Okay. Uh Sarah Debati. Sarah 01:06:44 Yeah. I mean, I guess I'm torn, but I mean, may he rest. May his memory literally be a blessing, Mr. James Vanderbeek. Tara 01:06:52 To you only. Dave 01:06:55 Crystal Dawson's Creek. Krystal 01:06:56 Uh, I'm I'm gonna say Michelle Williams. Dave 01:06:59 Alright, here are your rankings. Clip 01:07:00 Because I met it colored orange bowl. Dave 01:07:01 Coming in at number four, Joshua Jackson. Clip 01:07:03 I am because I wanted to cover it and both like it. Tara 01:07:04 Okay. Dave 01:07:04 Coming in at number three, Jensen Accles. Clip 01:07:06 And what does this card? Tara 01:07:07 Mm-hmm Clip 01:07:08 Because I met it Krystal 01:07:08 Okay. Dave 01:07:08 Coming in at number two, Chad Michael Murray. Tara 01:07:11 Hmm. Dave 01:07:11 Coming in at number one, Sasha Alexander. Krystal 01:07:12 Okay Tara 01:07:14 What good grief? Krystal 01:07:15 What is happening Sarah 01:07:16 What Rizzoli? Tara 01:07:19 NCIA's people are crazy. Sarah 01:07:19 Come on. Yeah, they are Napoli Dave 01:07:24 Alright, so we're gonna start us off for White Lotus. Clip 01:07:25 I'm a bomb. Dave 01:07:28 White Lotus. Who is the most popular IMDB White Lotus actor? Sarah 01:07:32 Um yeah Dave 01:07:36 Tough one. Lots of, you know, every season's got a new cast almost. Tara 01:07:39 Praying Sarah doesn't remember my pick was on the show. Krystal 01:07:40 Okay, right. Sarah 01:07:44 Uh yeah. Um Patrick Schwarzenegger, bug it. Clip 01:07:45 What Dave 01:07:47 All right. Sarah 01:07:48 You want horny? I got that. Dave 01:07:50 Crystal Krystal 01:07:51 Uh Jennifer Coolidge. Tara 01:07:54 Guys, Sydney Sweeney was in season one. Dave 01:07:54 Tara. Krystal 01:07:57 Oh she was! Sarah 01:07:58 Oh shit. Krystal 01:07:59 That's ries, I just remembered Sarah 01:08:00 Fuck. Dave 01:08:00 Here are your rankings. Sarah 01:08:00 Yeah. Dave 01:08:02 Number four. You gotta go, Horn Dog guys. Number four, Amy Lee Wood. Tara 01:08:06 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:08:07 Number three, Walton Goggins. Tara 01:08:09 Sure. Krystal 01:08:10 Of course. Dave 01:08:10 Number two, Haley Lou Richardson. Number one with a bullet, Sidney Sweeney for eight points. Krystal 01:08:15 You're right, Tara. You're so you got it. I totally forgot about that. Dave 01:08:19 Our next show is the other two, starting with Crystal. Krystal 01:08:23 Again, I know like two actors from this show, so this is not one of my shows. Um Dave 01:08:28 I'm just gonna let y'all know this is the most surprising ranking of the one. I'm just like, what? Tara 01:08:32 Okay, all right. Dave 01:08:33 Huh? Krystal 01:08:33 Okay, alright. Dave 01:08:33 Huh? What? Alright. Tara 01:08:35 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Sarah 01:08:35 Mm Krystal 01:08:35 Okay, well I'll just guess Molly Shannon then. Dave 01:08:37 All right, Molly Shannon from Crystal Torah. Krystal 01:08:39 I don't know. Tara 01:08:40 Ken Marino Dave 01:08:42 Sarah. Sarah 01:08:43 I think those are the only actor names that I even know. Tara 01:08:46 Well, you can say a character and I'll tell you who played them. Sarah 01:08:47 For sure on the show. Uh the I mean the shit, I don't remember his name, but he's also on Running Point. Krystal 01:08:54 Oh, Drew Tarver. Tara 01:08:54 Oh, Jutara. Sarah 01:08:55 Yeah, and Dave 01:08:56 Okay, here are your rankings coming in at number four, Brandon Scott Jones. Coming in at number three for four points, Ken Marino. Tara 01:09:05 Okay. Dave 01:09:05 Coming in at number two, would it have been worth six points? Richard Kind. Tara 01:09:10 Shut up Krystal 01:09:10 Oh cute. Dave 01:09:11 And coming in at number one, Josh Sagara. Tara 01:09:14 Oh, of course. God damn it. Dave 01:09:16 Yeah, yeah. Krystal 01:09:17 I don't know who that is. Dave 01:09:18 All right. Next show, hacks. And we're starting with Tara. Tara 01:09:23 Hmm. Oh boy. This is a tough one. This is an out of left field pick, but I'm gonna stand by it. Christopher McDonald. Dave 01:09:32 All right. You eat pieces of shit for breakfast, Sarah D. Bunting Tara 01:09:35 Mm-hmm. Sarah 01:09:40 Uh I'm blanking on names too now. Um well uh at least I'm not blanking on her name this game time. Gene smart, I guess. Dave 01:09:50 All right, Gene Smart. Sarah 01:09:50 Don't know what else to do. Dave 01:09:51 Crystal, what's your pick? Krystal 01:09:52 Uh Tony Goldwyn Dave 01:09:54 Alright, here are your rankings. Tara 01:09:54 Hm, nice Sarah 01:09:55 Oh, nice Dave 01:09:56 Number four for two points, Gene Smart. Tara 01:09:59 Okay. Dave 01:09:59 Number three for four points, Helen Hunt. Clip 01:10:02 I want to go by the Krystal 01:10:03 Oh, right. Dave 01:10:04 Number two, Lauren Weedman. Krystal 01:10:07 Oh, I like that for her. Tara 01:10:07 Awesome Krystal 01:10:09 Yeah Dave 01:10:09 And number one, Caitlin Olson. Tara 01:10:12 Yeah, I thought of that after I said it. Krystal 01:10:13 And right, of course. Dave 01:10:14 So Gene Smart, the only scoring actor there. Tara 01:10:17 Good job, Sarah. Dave 01:10:18 Last show of round two. Sarah 01:10:19 Thanks. Dave 01:10:20 We're almost done. Sarah 01:10:21 Thank God. Dave 01:10:21 Here we go. The OG version of Scrubs. The OG version of Scrubs. So everything up to And including the ABC med school season, but not including the reboot. Sarah 01:10:33 Okay. Um Dave 01:10:34 Excuse me, revival. Sarah 01:10:37 Yeah, you're excused. Dave 01:10:38 Thank you. Sarah 01:10:38 Um, phase oh Tara 01:10:40 Yeah Dave 01:10:41 All right. Crystal? Krystal 01:10:43 I don't know, the short Zach Braff, I guess Dave 01:10:46 Alright, except round. Tara. Tara 01:10:48 I don't remember if she was in more than f five episodes, but Terra Reed? Dave 01:10:52 All right, here we go. Get ready not to mark any points. Tara 01:10:56 Okay, yeah, mhm, mm-hmm Krystal 01:10:57 Yay. Dave 01:10:57 Dave Franco. Krystal 01:10:59 I was gonna guess it. Oh god, okay. Dave 01:11:01 Julie Reyes, Elizabeth Banks, Krista Miller, number one Clip 01:11:02 I have a bomb. Krystal 01:11:04 Oh, mm-hmm Tara 01:11:07 I almost said her fuck Krystal 01:11:07 Oh of course, of course. Dave 01:11:10 All right, that is round two. Sarah 01:11:10 Oh, horn dogs. Dave 01:11:12 Round three is short, so we're almost done. Let's get the scores. Sarah 01:11:16 Thank God. Krystal 01:11:16 Thank God. Tara 01:11:17 Okay, Crystal has three. Dave 01:11:19 Uh-huh. Tara 01:11:19 Sarah has eleven. Dave 01:11:20 Yep. Tara 01:11:21 I have thirty-six. Sarah 01:11:21 Huh? Krystal 01:11:23 Yes, there we go. Mm-hmm. Dave 01:11:24 Okay. I was gonna say it's anybody's game, there's sixteen points on the board here, but I think that's uh mathematically impossible. Sarah 01:11:33 Oh my God Dave 01:11:33 All right, round three. Everybody has one crack at it. The points double again, so it's 16, 12, 8, 4. Tara 01:11:40 Shit. Okay. Dave 01:11:41 The show is American Horror Story Singular. Clip 01:11:44 I don't want to have a bomb. Dave 01:11:45 Not stories. Crystal you'll get first Crack, then Sarah, then Tara. Krystal 01:11:51 I mean Sarah Paulson. Dave 01:11:53 Alright. Sarah Paulson. Sarah? Sarah 01:11:56 Singular, right Dave 01:11:57 Yeah, American Horror Story, not the stories. Tara 01:11:58 Mm-hmm. Sarah 01:12:02 Lady Gaga. Tara 01:12:07 I don't know why I'm saying her, because no one likes her, but I'm doing it anyway. Emma Roberts. Dave 01:12:12 All right, here we go. See who could get them big points, brackets, nobody Clip 01:12:18 I want to go in the play, I want it to work. Tara 01:12:18 Oh no Fuck. Krystal 01:12:18 Yay Sarah 01:12:19 Oh Dave 01:12:19 Lily Rabe, number four, Kate Mara, number three, Evan Peters, number two Sarah 01:12:23 Oh. Tara 01:12:24 Mhm. Sarah 01:12:24 Good for them. Clip 01:12:25 I want to go in the play, I want it to work Krystal 01:12:26 I knew it, yes Tara 01:12:26 Oh duh Sarah 01:12:27 Good for him. Dave 01:12:28 Number one, hands to face, Macaulay Culkin Tara 01:12:30 Connie Britton. Oh, right. Sarah 01:12:34 Oh, come on, no. Krystal 01:12:35 I don't know who's in those shows. Tara 01:12:36 Forgot about that. Dave 01:12:37 Alright, the scores are the same, but let's hear them one more time, please. Krystal 01:12:38 Okay, great. Tara 01:12:40 Okay, Crystal, finish the three, Sarah eleven, me thirty-six. Krystal 01:12:45 God, it's so embarrassing. Dave 01:12:45 Alright, nicely done. Sarah 01:12:46 If you stack three me and crystals in a trench coat, we still don't have as many points astara. Oh. Dave 01:12:52 Let's play the tiebreaker for shiss and giggles. Sarah 01:12:53 Well played. Dave 01:12:56 There are twenty-nine names that qualify for this show. It is the Simpsons So, what we're gonna do is we're gonna give everybody two actor guesses, and we're gonna see who guessed first. So we'll go around the horn. We'll go, Crystal, who is your first guess for The Simpsons? Most popular Simpsons voice actor. Krystal 01:13:18 Do they they don't have to have been in five episodes or do they have to have okay. Dave 01:13:21 Yes, they have to have been in five episodes. Krystal 01:13:24 I wanna say Albert Brooks Dave 01:13:26 Albert Brooks. Alright, who was your first guest, Tara? Tara 01:13:30 Kelsey Grammar Dave 01:13:31 Kelsey Grammar. Alright, Sarah D. Bunting. Krystal 01:13:33 That's a good one. Sarah 01:13:35 Hartman Dave 01:13:36 Hartman. Alright, back to Crystal, second choice. Krystal 01:13:42 I'm so bad at this, I don't know what people would be searching. I'm only thinking of like main cast now. Uh I don't know. Dan Castellanetta. Dave 01:13:50 Tar, last pick. And Sarah, your last pick. Sarah 01:13:55 Uh area. Tara 01:13:58 Yeah, that's a good guess. Sarah 01:13:59 Hankus area Dave 01:14:00 All right, here we go. I'm gonna read your choices bottom up. He was last in the popularity polls, but first in our hearts is Phil Hartman. Tara 01:14:07 Na glad he was ranked. Dave 01:14:09 Next up the ladder, Dan Castellanetta, followed by Joy Mat Joe Matanya. Tara 01:14:15 Mantanya, mm, mm, yep. Dave 01:14:16 Yes, that guy. Clip 01:14:17 I want to go with them. Dave 01:14:18 Joe M Sarah 01:14:19 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:14:20 Kelsey Grammer won below Albert Brooks, but Hank Azaria was the fourth most popular Tara 01:14:24 Oh Clip 01:14:24 I want to go with them. I want to get a lot of people. Dave 01:14:29 Voice actor on The Simpsons according to IMDB. Tara 01:14:30 Sarah. Dave 01:14:32 Above him, Carrie Washington, Glenn Close, J. Sarah 01:14:32 All right. Tara 01:14:35 Okay. Sure Dave 01:14:37 K. Simmons, number one. Tara 01:14:39 Oh, all right. Sarah 01:14:39 Wow. Krystal 01:14:39 What very handily. Dave 01:14:40 All right, nicely done, Sarah, but Tara wins the game. Sarah 01:14:44 Yes, she does. Yes. Clip 01:14:49 Tara. Dave 01:14:49 And that also wraps up the season. Sarah 01:14:50 Good job, Tara. Clip 01:14:52 History repeats itself, try and you succeed all the best, all round Mother's gonna ever keep it down from the best, all round Sarah 01:14:52 Woo! Dave 01:14:56 Yeah this around Nothing else hard to keep me down Yes Around Sarah 01:15:00 Gonna keep me down. Clip 01:15:04 And what is going on keeping down the desk? Tara 01:15:05 What are you doing? Dave 01:15:07 I just my fingers in my mouth and sing that wa All right. Clip 01:15:09 What does gonna have a key down Krystal 01:15:11 Why? Sarah 01:15:15 What? Tara 01:15:16 All right. Krystal 01:15:16 Great. Sarah 01:15:19 Congrats, Dara. We'll play Tara 01:15:21 Thanks. Dave 01:15:22 Guys, that is it for another episode of Extra Hot Great. We traveled back to Netflix for season two of Running Point C. I know one basketball thing is called traveling. Before going around the dial with stops at Call the Midwife, Jerry West, the logo. Killing grounds, Julie sold us her pitch for Madman's Burger Chef pitch episode Waterloo. We crowned winners and losers of the week Antara was the winner of this week's game time for miles. Next up on EEHG this Friday, we're going to be talking about Widow's Bay. Remember. Clip 01:15:57 We're listening. Dave 01:16:00 I am David T. Cole and on behalf of Tario Rieto. Tara 01:16:04 Marriage is a racket. Dave 01:16:05 Seribunting! Sarah 01:16:07 She's never worn lipstick to the pool before. Dave 01:16:10 And Krystal Farmer. Krystal 01:16:12 Shut up, Harry. Dave 01:16:14 Thanks for listening. And we'll see you next time right here on Extra Hot Great Clip 01:16:25 I got a couple businesses I'm trying to get off the ground, but right now what's keeping the lights on is the RV repo. It's a tough business. Like last week, I I'm hauling away this beautiful 2022 Dream Rider. We're going from Henderson to Tahoe, halfway along the way I hear like a bang and I'm like fuck I got a flat so I pull over I go in there it was the owner he blew his brains out right around Zizzix Jesus happy ending Police said he was a pedophile. Justice. Boom. Wow. Krystal 01:16:55 Oh, boy Sarah 01:16:56 Wow.