Is Chad Powers A Winner?

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Club members just heard her in Extra, Extra Hot, Great 374, sharing the most awesome thing she watched on TV this month. Now she's on the main show. It's Kim Reed. Dave: [02:22] Welcome, Kim. Sarah: [02:22] Kim. Tara: [02:23] Welcome back, Kim. Dave: [02:24] Follow up question for you, Kim. Kim: [02:25] Thank you. Dave: [02:26] What is the biggest fruit you've stuffed your bra with? Kim: [02:32] I was stuck with soft materials. Tara: [02:33] Mm-hmm. Kim: [02:34] That's why apples was such an interesting choice. Tara: [02:37] Yeah. Kim: [02:38] You know, tissues, socks, sure. Dave: [02:39] Sure. Tara: [02:41] Yeah, I mean, on the prairie this was pre when you could have gummy bears, but I know that's a desired uh texture or sensation for breast implants these days. Dave: [02:50] Should have been a couple bottles. Tara: [02:52] Yeah, a couple of bonnets would have worked. Kim: [02:52] Yeah. Dave: [02:53] Yeah. Tara: [02:54] We're not here to talk about bras or fruit or little house on the prairie. We are here to talk about Chad Powers. Once, Russ Holliday, Glenn Powell, was a hot college football quarterback who ruined his own shot at the NFL basically by being an obnoxious jerk. Eight years later, he's still an obnoxious jerk, but one who is much sadder and deeper in denial when he loses his chance at a pitiful quasi-comeback playing in the XFL. A chance viewing of a Stephen A. Smith clip about walk-on quarterback tryouts at the University of South Georgia gives Russ an idea. Instead of dropping off the facial prosthetics, his Oscar-winning makeup artist father Mike Toby Huss made for a new Michael Bay movie, Russ could take them to Georgia and try out for the team under the assumed name Chad Powers. Is the plan crazy or crazy enough to work? The show is based on a segment of the ESPN show Eli's Places, in which Eli Manning originated the role of Chad Powers. Here the co creators are Michael Waldron, formerly of Loki and Heels, And Powell. Two episodes dropped on Hulu, September 30th, with the remaining four dropping weekly on Tuesdays. We got access to the whole season, but we will be careful about spoilers. Let's do the Chen check-in. Kim. Should our listeners watch Chad Powers, Sarah, Dave It's not, and yet I found it extremely watchable, and I think that's mostly down to Glenn Powell's. Kim: [04:10] Probably not. Sarah: [04:12] Yeah, it's a na for me. Dave: [04:15] I didn't hate it, but it was also like so many other things. So I think you can give this one a pass. It's not going to bring anything new to the table. Tara: [04:29] Unstoppable charisma. Dave: [04:30] Nose? Oh. Tara: [04:32] So I'm not going to say yes, but if they make more, I shamefully will admit I'm going to watch it. Let's start with a temperature check on everybody's tolerance for a big lie show where half the experience of watching it is waiting for the lie to be exposed. Kim, is this a format of television or pop culture generally that you enjoy? Kim: [04:51] It does always give me pause about the realism. And I think with a sitcom, any sitcom, you have to just kind of let that go, or else there's no way you're ever going to be into it. I did watch the Eli Manning show. I think before it was a show, I think it was like an ESPN commercial or something. Tara: [05:07] Oh, okay. Uh-huh. Kim: [05:08] I watched it at some point and that was a lot easier to take because it was like a practice. Like he, you know, kept the ruse up for a practice. Tara: [05:14] Right. Kim: [05:17] That's believable. The prosthetics were just as good as they are on this show. To be able to keep it up forever, I guess, question mark. And that's his plan, is a little less believable. That's where I stood on it was you know, I could see him keeping it up for a practice or if he didn't have to live with the people that he's also f trying to fool. But uh, so it did it did go through my mind. Dave: [05:39] But also, given that it is that sort of show, you know, the foundation of the show is How Long Can This Guy Fool All These People, didn't you think it should be more farcical? Like more Frasier, more Threes Company-esque, where like there are hijinks and hijinks ensue, didn't really have that tone, which is what I thought, especially for a show called Chad Powers, such a ridiculous name. Sarah: [06:03] This was my problem with it and with the realism or lack of same is that You're, you know, watching him sort of bumble through just the sign-up process with like extremely long pauses, and he has absolutely no Nothing prepared, no idea, even though he's been through this process before. Yeah, it was like almost a decade ago, but still, he would know this stuff, he would have a name ready or Fumble through some John Cocktoast like he would have something ready. Tara: [06:34] Right. Sarah: [06:36] He doesn't. That's not realistic, but Because it's also trying to have it both ways in terms of like sometimes it's a farce, but sometimes it's also trying to be really kind of Earnest and play it straight in terms of like the father-daughter relationship that, you know, how do you come back from being the main character eight years ago? And what does that come back look like? You can't have it both ways with this premise, in my opinion. And so I just, there were a lot of moments that I liked between him and Ricky, right? The mascot? Tara: [07:11] Danny. Kim: [07:11] D? Sarah: [07:11] Not Rick, no, Ricky's the daughter. Tara: [07:12] The actor's name is Ricky, I think. Kim: [07:13] Yeah. Sarah: [07:13] Right. Him and the mascot, they had good like partner chemistry, I guess I would call it, but it couldn't seem to commit to a tone and it wanted to have that like Ted Lasso, this is funny, but also, oh. Kim: [07:16] Mhm. Sarah: [07:27] And I was like, you're not getting either of these quite right. And I can't. Hang if everyone around you is going to be so dumb that they can't figure out that you're lying, and those are fake teeth. Tara: [07:39] Is the show bringing enough to the table other than the lie to make it at all compelling in your opinion? Or is this a movie idea or perhaps A commercial sized idea I mean, in the original segment, which we'll put in the show notes, they do make reference to that movie, Invincible. Kim: [07:50] Yeah, wrote down it. My first thing I wrote in my notes was that every joke felt like the first draft. And this was a show, from what I could tell, it has very few writers. And I felt like this was a show that could really benefit from a writer's room. Because then it could get more farcical. Like they could take it further with more people kind of brainstorming and piling on and that sort of thing. Sarah: [08:11] Totally, totally. Kim: [08:12] And I also felt like it took way too long to set up the premise. Like, I get it. I thought that whole opening, like his downfall, the whole then XFL Cybertruck section, getting to the tryouts for the college, like that could have been a montage, like five minutes. Like, I didn't need. Every scene felt like twice as long. And I think, Tara, that goes to what you were just saying about maybe this didn't need to be a six-episode series. Maybe it could have been a two-hour movie, like so many things in streaming, right? It could have been a two-hour 90-minute movie. Dave: [08:44] If they had a writer's room, what they would have done would be during the initial tryouts, Mark Wahlberg from that movie where he tried to be a kicker for the Eagles comes in and just like kicks one ball and that's it. That's all you see of him. That's it. Like, I wanted more stupidity like that. Tara: [09:06] Like there this is clearly a marker. But but truly, when I was like, when I reviewed it positively mostly, even though I know it's bad, leave me alone, all of the analogs that I was that I could think of were all movies. Like Mrs. Doubtfire is obviously the most obvious one, and they You know, they nod to it dir directly. Dave: [09:22] Nod or point to it directly and go, Huh? Huh? Sarah: [09:26] Yeah, heh heh heh yeah, totally. Tara: [09:26] You're right. They point to it with a laser pointer and then they set off fireworks around it. So you know they know. Dave: [09:32] But like, yes, they do all that, but somehow in the year whatever this takes place in, there is a giant Mrs. Delphire poster up at WB Studios. Tara: [09:43] It's Fox, and I think sometimes they do have old, like classic ones up. Sarah: [09:43] Yeah, what? Dave: [09:47] Yeah. Tara: [09:47] I think that's a thing. Dave: [09:48] Okay. Tara: [09:48] Well, whatever. I do give him credit for all the markers of Russ being an unbearable turd eight years after his big downfall because. Having friends in crypto, doing Mass Singer, being a joke on cameo, driving a Cybertruck. It's like, yep, these are all, these are all what we would expect a guy at this level of life to have on his resume. We also hear later he has an account on Truth Social, so there's that as well. This is probably the last stop for Hawk to a girl's cultural relevance. Did anyone want to say farewell to her? Kim: [10:19] I even was like, really? Still? But that, you know, there's a long lead time, I'm sure, between when they came up with the bit, caster, but I was just still like, are people even going to remember? Tara: [10:22] Yeah. Yeah. Kim: [10:30] Who she is? Tara: [10:31] Yeah. Kim: [10:32] So much has happened. Sarah: [10:32] Yeah, yeah, not really a lasting reference, I wouldn't say. Tara: [10:37] As a football abstainer, there was enough for me to follow what was going on. But for those of you who have paid attention to more than three football games in your life, how would you rate it, Kim? Kim: [10:46] Well, first of all, if Chad Powers had the arm that the show keeps telling us is like a bazooka, they said that like three times in the first two episodes. If he had the skills that he was like the QB1 for the potentially national championship winning college football team, I think they would have recognized him sooner. Like, that's a singular talent that, even with the face change, just the body, the way he throws, all of that, he couldn't possibly change. And I feel like that would have been recognizable. You know, as far as the football play went, and maybe this happens in later episodes, but I wish there had been more development of some of his teammates More than in the first two episodes, it basically was just his competition and the guy who likes to make fun of him a lot. I was like, okay, well, maybe we could have some more of those people stepping up. Dave: [11:32] He goes To the first or couple tryouts, and he's got this Howard Sorarm, and he goes viral on social, apparently, which all right, whatever. Tara: [11:41] Mm-hmm. Instantly. Dave: [11:43] That would mean then the sports people on Reddit would look at this and they would like they would boston bomber the whole thing where they're like this is definitely oh Bad example because they fucked that one up. Tara: [11:50] Yeah. Kim: [11:51] Yeah, absolutely Yeah. Dave: [11:54] But you know what I mean? Tara: [11:55] Mm-hmm. Dave: [11:55] They'll go forensic on it. And then that's it. The end of the show. Kim: [12:00] Yeah, the way a quarterback like at that level throws and moves is a signature, you know, that people would recognize, I think. Sarah: [12:07] Not to mention that a quarterback at that level. Like, I know what the script says. He did, but like Johnny Manziel kept getting chances. Kim: [12:16] Yes. Sarah: [12:17] So, not that that's not something that you can't explore in a sort of Satirical property, but A, I do think it should be a movie like Lonely Island style, and B, like it or not, and I don't especially If that guy was going to be a first-round draft pick, he wouldn't have wound up like tooling around in a cyber truck in a fucking ponytail doing cameos, period. They would have given him a ton of chances. That's just how. Kim: [12:41] A practice squad at the very least in the NFL. Sarah: [12:43] Yeah, that complex works. Dave: [12:43] Yeah. Right. Sarah: [12:46] So No. Dave: [12:46] Speaking about movie comparisons, one that I thought we left out was the M. Night Shyamalan movie Signs. Because, like the aliens and signs, the only thing take Chad Powers down is water It's like a constant thing. Tara: [12:59] It's water. Dave: [13:03] He won't shower. He won't participate in the tradition of the team water balloon fight, etc. , etc. What's going to happen the first time he has to play in the rain, right? Because they don't stop football for rain. So, yeah. Kim: [13:16] The only joke, I wouldn't say I laughed. I wouldn't even say I chuckled, but two wide peehole joke did make me chuckle. Tara: [13:22] Mm-hmm. Kim: [13:23] But then, when they were talking about the showers and he goes, You mean Sandusky? I laughed out loud. Which is probably makes me a bad person, but it was the only thing that made me laugh in the episodes that I watched. Tara: [13:34] Yeah. Was Glenn Powell at least convincing as two different guys to anyone? Dave: [13:42] Not really. Tara: [13:42] Okay. Kim: [13:45] Well, it goes to that tone thing you guys were talking about, where the Chad Powers character is like, what is he? Tara: [13:52] Right. Kim: [13:52] You know, the other characters call it out, but that doesn't make it still work any better because somebody that weird and affected by things people would have a lot more questions, I think. Sarah: [14:06] Also, that he doesn't have ID, and also also that, again, American football is a Complex that, like, knows and sees all, kind of. Like, there you can't really come out of nowhere exactly the way he says he did. So the fact that they then they have no questions about him not having ID or not being enrolled, like that is fine because that's definitely something that like this coach is going to be like, I can I can fix that. For both of us, but then there's like running jokes, which are not funny, about him possibly being, what is their term, seedy. Tara: [14:43] C D C D E Uha. Sarah: [14:43] For, like, CTE, or like that, he's, you know, got a brain injury. That's not the term they always use. And it's like, okay, like, ha, this is the tone problem. Kim: [14:56] Well, I was just thinking as I was watching it, Glenn Powell, what are you doing? Like, why do you, why do you, why do you, he has so much charm and charisma. He's so handsome. Tara: [15:05] Mhm. Kim: [15:05] I love Glenn Powell. Tara: [15:07] Yeah. Kim: [15:07] And I loved him since like Scream Queens, I think, was the first thing I remember him. Tara: [15:11] Same, me too. Kim: [15:11] And I know he did stuff before that, but. Dave: [15:11] Oh yeah. Tara: [15:12] Yep. Dave: [15:12] He was really good in that. Tara: [15:13] He was Yeah. Kim: [15:13] Yeah, he was hilarious. He can be funny. He can be charming. He's a good action star. He doesn't need to do this show. Like, maybe because he got to be a producer, maybe that was compelling to him. I don't know. But. Tara: [15:24] Well, he co-created it. Kim: [15:26] Yeah, the whole time I was just thinking, like, maybe you should let other people do the be the idea guys, and you just come in and collect the paycheck because you're better than this. Tara: [15:34] Yeah. Well, he also co-wrote Hitman, the the movie that went to Netflix. Which also had, as I wrote in my review, like, this seems to be a thing where he likes to write himself parts where he's handicapping himself with, like, I'm putting on stuff so you can't tell it's me, charming Glenn Powell, who could play John Glenn in a movie. Kim: [15:52] Maybe that's something he needs to explore in therapy and not on the screen. Sarah: [15:57] Yeah, and also you don't have to do that voice. Kim: [15:57] Just saying. Sarah: [16:01] Like, I don't know what we're doing, but I'm not happy, but you know, because whatever, but like. Clay Crawford, perfect for this role. Absolute typecasting as the assistant coach, the QB coach, I guess. Tara: [16:14] Yes. Sarah: [16:14] But like, just play that role. But, you know, actors want to be like, well, j watch me throw this football. Like, no one cares. That's again, talk about it in therapy. Dave: [16:25] This is how we get the Bruce Springsteen movie. Sarah: [16:28] Mm-hmm. Kim: [16:28] Yeah. Tara: [16:28] Oh, God. Sarah: [16:29] Yeah. Kim: [16:29] Glen Powell's maybe a little bit too old, also. If you do the math on this character, the character is probably just hitting 30. They said it was eight years, right? Tara: [16:38] Yes. Kim: [16:38] Since his And Glenn Powell's, what, like mid-30s, mid to late 30s, I think, 35, 36, somewhere in there. Tara: [16:43] Probably. Kim: [16:45] But he just felt a little too old to me to be believably someone who could be in college or pretend to be in college. Tara: [16:50] Yes. You nailed it. He's 36. All right. Well, we can stop talking about this. Last thing I'll say is: I'm never going to be ready for Steve Zahn to play guys with adult children. Even though he's 57, like I'm just, I can't accept it mentally, but I know I'm saying. Kim: [17:04] He was just in reality bites, like last year. Sarah: [17:05] I know I know. He can really wear an athletic supporter visor, though, can't he? It's kind of upsetting. Clip: [17:21] We've got a lot of shows. It's a great time for shows. Dave: [17:25] It is time to go around the dial. Tara, you are a first stop, or the first stop, as we like to say in the business. Tara: [17:33] We all know Jimmy Fallon is a hack who meets every tonight show guest with the same level of phony giddiness. Now he's also a hack who created and hosts on brand with Jimmy Fallon. Dave and I are the only two people who still remember the pitch on AMC from probably 10 years ago. It was a reality show which depicted creative teams from two ad agencies over the course of a week as they worked up their pitches for a real clients' campaign. Dave: [17:58] The T V show where one of the agencies tried to sell Subway on being zombri. Tara: [18:04] Oh, my God. Dave: [18:04] When you're as hungry as a zombie, you go to Subway to eat because you're zombri. Tara: [18:10] You remember more about this show than I do. Sarah: [18:10] Oh, dear. Dave: [18:12] It was so bad. I loved it. Tara: [18:14] Yeah, it was an amazing TV, but that doesn't mean there couldn't still be a crappier version of it, which is what on brand is. Dave: [18:18] Sure. Tara: [18:20] And instead of being about Professionals in the field having a normal amount of time to do their work. This is about everyday Americans having an hour to do it on literally Canva, even though they're talking to and promoting real brands like Captain Morgan, KitchenAid, and Southwest Airlines. I'm not saying a swimming teacher can't also have hidden talent in marketing. I'm saying I've seen two episodes, and 24-year-old swimming instructor Elijah has yet to show me he has any. And it's not just young people who have a hard time with this. Fifty Something Realtor Sabrina looks two Dunkin' Donuts executives right in their faces as she pitches that they call their breakfast meal The munch box and apparently has no idea why they might not want to call it that. Sarah: [19:00] Oh no Oh no Oh, my God. Tara: [19:04] And In the next episode, we find out Sabrina was recently struck by lightning in her yard. So maybe that zapped away her knowledge of dirty slang. Oh no, I killed Kim. The contestants are going to do what contestants on these kind of shows always do, which is immediately let you know who the most likely final three are, while the rest, no pun intended for the swinging instructor, drown themselves with their incompetence. The real reason to skip it, though, is that Jimmy Fallon is unbearable to watch. It is actually uncomfortable anytime he's on screen because his rictus grin doesn't change, yet his eyes are completely dead the whole time. I can't believe he has a career hosting anything. And I also don't want to promulgate any rumors about him, and I won't. But I will note that not having watched The Tonight Show in a long time, I was surprised how many of his lines he's audibly. Slurring here and just leave it at that. The show is bad. Jimmy Fallon's a mess. I'm sure it cost NBC nothing to produce because the featured brands just paid to be included. But I still can't believe this is the kind of thing that can err on broadcast. TV. It's like when we watch Tealer of Deal Island, like at least that was a peacock show, but this is silly. Anyway, I reviewed it. You can find that link in the show notes. I also interviewed Cassandra Peterson, who is better known as Elvira. She has a cookbook out, Elvira's cookbook from hell. So we talked a little bit about that and then a bunch of other stuff. So you can find those at Cracked. Dave: [20:34] All right, Kim, what we got People have mentioned it on the show before. Kim: [20:35] I wanted to do a little roundup of some competitive reality shows that I know most of you don't watch. I know Sarah still watches The Challenge from time to time. But there's been a lot going on. Speaking of Dondi, as we in the biz called Deal or No Deal Island, Dondi, not going to talk about that today, but it is related. The first one is Australian Survivor versus the World. Which you may have heard a little bit about this summer. A lot of Survivor fans feel like Australian Survivor, which is the Survivor that airs in Australia, not season two of American Survivor. Is The Superior Show. And this was kind of an exhibition match that aired over the summer. Unfortunately, it's impossible to access in the United States unless you have a VPN or through methods. which is so dumb. It makes me so mad. But it featured a group of Australian Survivor All-Stars on One Tribe. And then from America, they brought over Parvity, who's been everywhere lately because she just wrote a book. Sari, who many called the best to never win, and Tony, who was the only two-time American Survivor winner, along with four players from other country survivors. And it only lasted sixteen days the real time, and there were lots of strategic twists or turns. It was only ten episodes, and it had a really satisfying ending. Some of the best survivor I've seen in years. So, if you have a chance, I would try to find a way to watch it. We also just wrapped up Big Brother season 28. The cast was terrible. The winner was just crowned as we're recording this last or Sunday night. The cast was terrible in terms of strategy, but they were mildly entertaining. They kept nominating their own allies, weirdly. Instead of nominating the people that they weren't working with, they would nominate the people they were working with. Unclear why they thought they should do that. There was a returning player, Rachel Riley. She was the winner of season 13. She's also been on The Amazing Race. And she at least tried to provide some drama, but then they evicted her during a twist called the White Locust. Do you get it? Where they all had to complete a maze, and the loser was eliminated. So she never even got nominated, and they never voted her out. She just. Lost a game and she was done for the season. Bad production, guys. But those beautiful idiots did at least keep the evictions mostly surprising. Editors sometimes had a hard time ginning up a reason why a certain player got evicted because there were so many convoluted reasons they couldn't do it in the three episodes per week. My biggest suggestion to improve Big Brother, let's get real, I'm never going to stop watching. I've watched 38 seasons. Tara: [22:56] Well mhm. Kim: [22:56] Like, why stop now? But they should cast more people over 40. Because there's usually one, and I think it would be more interesting to have more people who were not. It's cool, you got to have the beautiful idiots, I get it, but let's have some who are not. Continue to mix up the types of competitions they do so it's not all physical, so that there's some chance and some puzzle so everybody can win. That's my take on Big Brother. Next up, we have the Challenge Season 41, Vets vs. New Threats, currently airing. It's halfway through. It's, as the title says, Vets and New Threats, New People from Other Reality Shows like Big Brother, Survivor, Love Island. As always, the challenge created a format that was so convoluted no one could understand it. Point system that ended up meaning something but no one knew what it was. And then once you kind of figured it out, they immediately broke the format and changed it. Their new threats did a good job, have done a good job so far of being a little bit more strategic instead of just letting the vets do whatever they want. So that gives it some interest. But I'll watch to the bitter end because I'm a glutton for punishment. Plus, I always like to know the lore because as the challenge has the same people over and over, the lore does actually play into it. Survivor Season 49 and The Amazing Race Season 38 both just started. So they've only aired one episode as of this recording each. So not much to say there, except that The Amazing Race this season is Big Brother contestants plus a loved one. Tara: [24:16] Yeah mm. Kim: [24:16] Which sounds terrible. I get it. The one good thing is these people know how to be on television. And so you do have that They're good at doing the confessionals. They know how to interact with each other on camera. So it does sometimes make for a better product. They And then the final thing I wanted to mention was a show that I can't remember if you guys have talked about. It's barely a show. Jet Lag the Game. Have you guys talked about this at all? Tara: [24:41] We haven't, but Jeff Drake has tried to get us to watch the show a lot, and we never have. Dave: [24:42] Yeah. Kim: [24:44] Okay, you guys don't have to watch it, but listeners, if you want to watch it, it's basically if you like the amazing race in the first 10 seasons, this show, which airs on YouTube. might be for you. Each season is the same three guys, Sam, Adam, and Ben, who are sometimes joined by others and they play a game like hide and seek or tag. But on a continental scale, and they use the superior mass transit systems in Europe and Asia. There's really great graphics to help you understand what's going on much better than the Amazing Race does these days. It's not as much of a travelogue in terms of you don't get the scenic vistas and all of that, but there's much more strategy involved, and the challenges that they have to do to sort of earn bonuses to help them along the way are kind of Taskmaster-like. And because it's always the same three core people, you get to know their dynamics. And it actually kind of reminds me of you guys because I'm not going to name who's who. But two of them are very driven and focused and like type A. And then there's one guy who seems like he doesn't really know what's going on, and then suddenly he stumbles into a victory. Tara: [25:43] Mm-hmm. Kim: [25:44] You guys can decide who that describes. But if you really love it, you can subscribe to their network, which is called the Nebula Network, and get tons of content. Or you can just wait for the new episodes to drop on their YouTube channel, which is JetLag the Game. My plugs, I don't really have any other than what Tara said about my contributions to this podcast network. I'm at Kim Reed or at Read Kim on pretty much every social network out there if you want to look me up. Dave: [26:13] Sarah D. Bunting, what have you been watching? Sarah: [26:16] Speaking of stumbling and people who might be abusing substances on television, I started high maintenance. I started at the very beginning. It's something I've been meaning to do for ages. With the web series, it's all on HBO Max. It is just completely, amazingly, itself. From the first episode, I really love that montage-y, elliptical quality of the show, especially in its shorter format, where you only get a handful of Specifics about a situation, but they are extremely specific. Of course, the famous Michael Cyril Creighton one is so evocative of a certain like Overcrowded and narrow existence in New York City that is at the same time very full of hope somehow. But I'm also thinking of how the Heidi episode with my fave Greta Lee collages that first couple of weeks with a new love interest, or how the Dinah episode with the obnoxious house guest trapped there thanks to a superstorm. Cuts away from a brawl just as one guy is lunging over the coffee table. It just has such a good ear. Its pacing is so perfect. And it's also wild to see actors like Helena York or Kether Donahue before they got that role everyone knows them for now. And Each one is like 11 minutes tops. I ripped through two-thirds of the first season in like an hour. I should have done it years ago, but having saved it for myself as a treat was also a good call here in this very weird year of Our Lord. 2025. So, yeah, high maintenance. If it's been a while since you re-watched, I recommend it. I think it probably holds up. And for my plug, we have a bunch of podcasts around here, but one of them is again with this. We are currently recapping Dawson's Creek. We're in the middle of season four. Lots of shit is going on. But we also have a whole extra podcast, again with again with this. We do things from the Melrose verse, we do things from the Dawson's verse, and We do have a mutual aid vault for that podcast now as well. If you are interested in either donating to it or withdrawing from it. Let me know. Bunting at tomato nation. com is my email. Or if you're on our Discord, you could just DM me there. And that is all at againwithispodcast. com. Dave: [28:39] All right, here is what's coming up on Extra Extra Hawk. Great this Friday. We're going to be talking about the new force. That is a show on Netflix from Sweden, Sweden. Tara: [28:49] Sweeter. Dave: [28:51] And it's all about ladies in the 50s becoming police officers. Nobody wants them to be there, but they're going to tough it out. They kill five people in the first two minutes. It was a disaster. And then we got a bonus extra, extra hot grate coming your way. It is time to reveal this year's This Week in TV history episode we'll be covering February 21st to February 27th of the year, 1996. The lead is the late shift. That is the Jay Little Letterman made for T V movie. And we're welcoming back Adam Sternberg for that one. Tara: [29:28] Yeah, we should say we record that after Stephen Colbert was fired, like just, but obviously before. All this business with Jimmy Kimmel. So some of our comments about what the landscape is like are going to seem even more antique than 1996, but we did what we could. Dave: [29:44] That is available to club members. If you're not a club member, you can go to extrahotgreat. com/slash club to sign up and get all those goodies, plus a lot more. And then come back here, EHG Prime. One week from today, we'll be talking about Monster the Ed Geen Story with Richard Lawson. It is time for the extra hot great canon presenting this week. It is Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah: [30:16] Hi, and wake up, sheeple, because it's time for my canon pitch for Law and Order Special Victims Unit, Season 9, Episode 17, Authority. Authority, which aired April twenty ninth, two thousand eight, is best known as The Robin Williams one, in which Williams is Merritt Rook raging against every machine in all forms after his wife and son died in childbirth. rips from various headlines about flash mobs, the strip search phone scams of the Otts, which also inspired the film Compliance starring the Great Ann Dowd, and Milgram Experiments. Williams was nominated for an Emmy for his performance here, and that's a big part of why I think this episode has a shot at the Canon despite having zero monkeys and zero basketballs. Let's zoom out and talk about a couple of other reasons first. Number one, this is in many ways the prototypical episode of SVU, from what fans consider the quote. Peak era of the show, roughly seasons 7 to 11, I would say. Most of the famous original regulars, Stabler, Dr. Wong, Dr. Warner, are still in the credits. There's a big name special guest star, and an assortment of hey, it's that guys, and law and order verse recurrings as well. In authority, there is D D Khan, Mo Raka, Joanna Merlin's familiar Judge Lena Petrovsky. and Thirty Rock's Scott Adsett and Chicago Fire's Monica Raymond. There is Richard Beltzer's Detective Munch getting crack potty with the case du jour, Clip I And he's explaining one of the ripped from the headlines cases or conversation topics driving the episode while he's up. Clip: [31:50] You sexually abused a girl because a voice on the phone told you to. I was just following Detective Milgram's orders. There is no Detective Milgram. Whole thing was a scam. Oh my god. Just following orders. That's the preferred defense of every war criminal from Eichmann to Milosevic. Do I still think he got punked by a phone call? Well, he's a victim of corporate America. Here we go. You know, the franchise mentality mandates conformity. Employees are lemmings. You don't follow a manual. Bye-bye, Happy Burger. You say bye-bye to Dwight, he's looking at three to six. What about this Detective Milgram? He's the one who pulled Dwight's strings. Fanny Milgram, he's dead. But you knew him? Not personally, but the real Milgram was a psychology professor who instructed volunteers to give electroshocks to screaming victims. Sarah: [32:49] There's a defendant representing himself pro se, and there's that hallmark of Peak SVU, the episode that starts off about One case and then kind of convolutes itself off 75 degrees into being about another case. But reason number: Number two is that while it's typical of the show in many ways, it is pleasingly off-model in others, chief among them the ACAB spirit of Merritt Roke's entire journey. a joie de fuck off pig that the script is not really able to suppress, despite clearly wanting the audience to see Rook as an antagonist, a thorn in the side of our heroes. Here's Rook being a scold about supermarket produce, clip two. Clip: [33:31] I'm a local board. How's that? Means I only buy organic, seasonal foods grown by local farmers. Agribusiness wants us to buy shrink-wrap pre-ripened tomatoes flown in from Chile in January. I wait and get my Jersey tomatoes ripe in July. Sarah: [33:48] Preach. And, while representing himself in court extremely effectively, also cutting Morales, Joel De Lafuente specifically, and expert testimony more generally, down to size, clip 3. Clip: [34:01] Lieutenant Morales, how do the computer matrices that enhance a face work? The computer uses an algorithm of the physiology of the human face and makes choices. By choices, you mean guesses? Educated guesses. Right. So I don't care how smart your computer is, a guess is not the truth. Sarah: [34:22] All the credits cast make damn you meddling do your own researchers faces, and we're at least somewhat Supposed to be sympathetic to them, but the fact is that Rook is either prefiguring or embodying anxieties that we still have about the validity of forensic accreditation. And expert testimony in court proceedings, about AI and deepfakes, and about how many Mangiones are, allegedly, going to have to lose it before someone fixes our parodically fucked up healthcare system. Even the episode's ending rebels in a way against the idea that the police, even these beloved fictional police, should be trusted. Stabler, Christopher Maloney, passes Rook's Milgram-esque test of his humanity and is allowed to retrieve an unharmed live, Mirshka Hargate, from captivity, but Rook has one last fake out up his sleeve. Pretending to tie his shoe and detonating an explosive that then lets him escape. Stabler and Benson chase him through a junkyard. to the water's edge, where lives Snitz. He went into that water cuffed, he's dead. And then they just walk away, and the camera pans out to the placid river. Does she really believe Rook is dead after forty five seconds in shallow water tops? Are we supposed to believe that? Are they gonna call an ambulance or a police boat or look under a rusty piece of junk? Anything? Whatever the intent, if the idea was to counter Rook's assertions that cops and other authority figures are often full of shit at best and ineptly compromised at worst This abrupt, oh well, close the file on old mork ending does not do that, and I do not hate it. On the other hand, maybe the show just wanted to leave it ambiguous so they could redeploy Robin Williams in a future episode. And although that didn't end up happening, I don't hate that idea either. When Williams died in twenty fourteen, I wrote on Tomato Nation. com about his often exhausting comic persona and how startlingly effective he could be when he played it straight. Back then I wrote, When he could go quiet for a few minutes, he has a moment in his guest shot on SBU when Merritt Rook is screaming at Stabler about the death of his wife and the genuine anguish William summons, big enough to turn him inside out, is wonderful and sad and not quite acting. I had this moment in mind, risible, thanks to Stabler's heartfelt claim that he doesn't abuse his authority as a cop. Tara: [36:55] Thank you. Sarah: [36:57] tragic thanks to Williams's believable and relatable distress, the way that he conveys that part of grief is also fury. Clip four. Clip: [37:06] Why are you doing this? Teach you a little lesson about power and authority. You cops with your guns and your badges, you think you can do anything you want. You think you own the streets. I don't abuse my authority. Oh, every cop. Abuses his authority. The ones who didn't believe you when you were a kid. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was too scared to stand up to them. Were you scared of Dr. Slifkin, too? No. This isn't about authority, it's not about obedience or shit. Sheep, you just want me to suffer the way you've suffered. You have no idea what I suffered. I have no idea what you've been to to lose your family. I didn't lose them. They were taken from me. Sarah: [37:52] I'm not sure that authority works for the reasons that it sets out to, but I am sure that it does work, even if it's sometimes ignorant. Clip 5. Clip: [38:01] Audio engineering's pretty much the same wherever you do it. Sarah: [38:05] Rude. There goes the Dave vote. Anyway, it is very typical of SVU in many ways. Star-studded, melodramatic, weirdly watchable for all that. It also undermines the show's customary back the blue self-regard in a couple of ways that are possibly unintentional, but definitely fascinating. and it features a highly controlled and compelling performance from Robin Williams, who may have had even more and better in him than we got to see. Looking forward to the discussion and hoping that you will respect Authority's argument for the extra hot gray cannon. Tara: [38:39] Thank you, Sarah. Kim, you pick this from our list. Please start off our discussion. Kim: [38:45] Yeah, I chose it because I still watch S V U. It's awful. I know Sarah does too. I feel like the theme of this episode is Kim watches a lot of terrible television because she can't stop. Sarah: [38:59] It was weird. I just want to say it was very weird prepping this episode after the recent premiere in which Spoiler alert, they killed off Don Cragan, even though the actor is alive and was on the set for that episode. Tara: [39:10] Oh, yeah. Sarah: [39:15] What what? Why? Dave: [39:17] Also, Kim, if you ever want to change the name of your segment, it could be Kim Breed watches a lot of terrible TV and can't stop. Kim: [39:24] But would anyone listen? So anyway, that's why I chose this one. It's a show I'm familiar with. I probably have seen this episode before. I think I've seen all of them at some point. I didn't really remember it. I certainly remember Robin Williams more from his episode of Homicide. I found that I understand Robin Williams, he went to Juilliard, right? Didn't he famously go to Juilliard? Tara: [39:47] I think so. Sarah: [39:47] I think so. Tara: [39:48] Yeah. Kim: [39:49] So it must have been very frustrating for him when he first got famous to be Mork and then to only be considered for comic roles. And to want to do something more serious. But I definitely feel like there was a stretch. I was just looking at his IMDb earlier, and there was definitely a stretch where he was doing like Death to Smoochy and independent type movies where he had played more serious roles. Sarah: [40:12] Was it the one-hour photo? Kim: [40:14] Yeah, that was in there as well. It's in this stretch right around when this episode came out. It kind of felt a little samey to me, and I don't think that's his fault necessarily as an actor as much as maybe people thought, oh, Robin Williams can do other things besides Joke. He can do this one other thing. So let's write him a role that's like that. I wasn't as affected. And I do have a soft spot for Robin Williams. After his death, it was discovered that he had Lewy body dementia. My father passed a few years ago from Lewy body dementia. So. I have a lot of empathy for how someone in that disease might feel, even though he didn't know he had it before he died. So I have a soft spot for him, but I still was kind of put off a little bit by his acting. In this episode, just because it felt a little samey. The other thing, you know, what Law and Order brings to the table is the format. It's pretty much always the same, except for the times when they break it, which is pretty rare. This was one of them. And I feel like if they are going to break it, like this is SVU. And I know SVU does this all the time, but this is SVU. It started with the sex crime, which was, you know, the manager from 30 Rock who makes his. Teenage employee gets naked because someone on the phone told them to, but then there kind of wasn't any other special victims type crimes. I just, I was like, why are they still investigating this case? Does this even fit into their department anymore? I'm probably the only weird person. To who thought that. The one thing it did have that I'm so glad that I saw was Munch participating in the pillow fight. Tara: [41:39] Yeah. Sarah: [41:40] Yeah. Kim: [41:42] Remember, Flash Mob pillow fights, guys? Tara: [41:43] Mm-hmm. Sarah: [41:44] Oh, yeah. Kim: [41:44] That was a thing for a while. While and Munch was a part of it, and he looked so happy. Sarah: [41:48] He died. Kim: [41:48] So, I haven't quite made up my mind about this one yet because, well, I do enjoy SVU, and it certainly was way better in this era than it is now. I did have a few things that gave me pause, but I'm interested to hear what everybody else thinks. Tara: [42:00] I'll go next. Sarah, you know, I'm here for all of the points, and there are many in the episode where you're like, unfortunately, Mitchell or Merritt Rook is right about XYZ. He's. Right about credit card companies. Even though I use them, he's right about, you know, eating local. He's definitely right that all cops abuse their authority. And I'm so glad you clip. Elliot saying he doesn't because LOL, come on, Elliot, you know you do. Kim: [42:23] No one does more. Tara: [42:23] This is your whole thing. Sarah: [42:25] That's yeah, that's your character. Tara: [42:25] Exactly. No one does more. Yes, he's the most authority-abusing character in the franchise, and that's saying something. Sarah: [42:27] Yeah. Tara: [42:33] Yeah, I agree with Kim. I do think there was a period where like Robin Williams was trying to downshift. From Morkin Mindy, and then he would do like a version of his sort of shtick, and then, like, but less, like in Good Morning Vietnam, where it's like there's still a dramatic frame for it. or the Fisher King or Dead Poets Society where he can still do voices. And even here I was like, did they write in the bit where he's got all the phones and is doing all the voices because it's him, like to play to his strengths? Dave: [43:00] Yeah. Hey, you want to you want to phone Robin Williams right now, Tar? Tara: [43:05] Ring ring. Thank you. I agree with Kim ultimately that this is sort of like they've they've broken the format. I appreciate that. I do like it when the show rarely acknowledges that cops are shitty and other people in authority are shitty too. You know, not to repeat myself, but like there is kind of not a monkey in a basketball for this one for me. It's it's sort of standard SVU in the grand scheme, other than the points in the story where it's sort of like Interrogating its own premises. I think ultimately, this is just sort of the kind of thing it does for me, Dave. Dave: [43:44] This is a silly one. It's silly. I was entertained. I'll give you that. I don't really know if it's canon-worthy as Tara said, it's tough to vote something in after you get the monkey into basketball episode, and somehow that may was that Canon or No Nak? Sarah: [44:00] True. Tara: [44:00] It was. Dave: [44:01] I think it was Canon, right? Tara: [44:01] No, it was Canon. Yeah. Dave: [44:02] Yeah. I think we argued that either way, it's in. Sarah: [44:03] Mm-hmm. Tara: [44:05] Mhm. Dave: [44:06] So that wasn't a dig on it. Tara: [44:06] And same with the Vixie Platinum one, I think. Dave: [44:08] Yeah. Tara: [44:09] Yeah. Sarah: [44:09] Mm-hmm. Dave: [44:09] I think the real canon here goes to Sarah for putting up an episode that starts with Barf. Tara: [44:15] Thank you. Yes. Dave: [44:17] Let's give Sarah props for that. Tara: [44:18] That barf, I did have a note about that. The barf is too real and also too soupy. And it's the first thing we see. Kim: [44:23] I was gonna say, I thought it looked like chicken noodle soup. Sarah: [44:23] Yeah. Tara: [44:24] So Mhm. Sarah: [44:25] It really did look like a can of Campbell's chicken noodle just got hucked on the floor. Like, okay, first shift PA, good for you. Dave: [44:33] Scott adds it as the fast food manager guy who is so stupid. Like, comically stupid. Tara: [44:44] Yeah. Dave: [44:44] Like, he's from Earth, too stupid, right? Like, I didn't believe that at all. Tara: [44:47] Yeah. Dave: [44:49] It was so stupid. But then it takes like a really creepy turn. where he like took off this woman's clothes but let her have an apron on and and you know stuffed her mouth with a washcloth or something like that like it It's stupid, but it's also really creepy, so that like magnifies the ick factor by seven. Also, it's Hornburger from 30 Rockstar. Is this actually Hornburger after he goes crazy at the end of 30 Rock trying to escape? Sarah: [45:10] Yeah. Dave: [45:14] And this is like one of his interim adventures? Tara: [45:14] Yeah. Yeah. Dave: [45:16] Like, ooh. Tara: [45:17] This is something that happened the day after the best friends gang. Dave: [45:20] That's right. Tara: [45:20] Uh, put the plastic bag over his head and, like, shoved him in a room. Dave: [45:22] That's right. Tara: [45:24] This is this is the day after that. Dave: [45:25] This is the lore you came here for. Tara: [45:27] Yeah. Dave: [45:27] The capper to the Scott Edsett scene is that somebody just says, You're an idiot. Sarah: [45:33] Mhm. Dave: [45:35] Munch saying libraries took on Big Brother, so no cameras in the library. Like, did anybody mention the ludicrous enhanced scene that we got? Sarah: [45:40] Very munchy. Tara: [45:44] No, but it was great. Kim: [45:44] Oh I did write it down. Sarah: [45:45] Mhm. Dave: [45:47] Favorite TV trope of the 2000s? Tara: [45:49] Classic law and order, yeah. Sarah: [45:50] Yeah. Dave: [45:50] It was a picture of Robin Williams' character buying a phone, very grainy footage. They enhance. And which is just like a zoom, and the enhance again, which is just a zoom. And then, like, the third one was like, it's a perfectly clear, non-interpolated version of this somehow. It was just like, you can't do that today. With all our technology without using like AI to make up shit. So that was great. Always here for an enhancing. Congratulations to Sarah for the Jersey Tomatoes shout out. I was disappointed Ice T didn't have to have anything explained to him this episode. Sarah: [46:28] He's here we go, perfect. Dave: [46:29] Yeah. We definitely need alternatives to a judge saying, I'll allow it. Let's just like figure out what another phrase for that is when there's an objection. The weird thing about the court case, I thought, is that they never bring up the phone bank he had. Like, sure, that could have been off-camera, but it's such a damning piece of the story. Tara: [46:54] No, we saw it. We saw like a whole bunch of phones in his apartment. Dave: [46:57] Yeah, I'm saying they don't bring it up in court. Tara: [46:58] Oh, oh, oh, sorry. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Dave: [47:00] Yeah. Tara: [47:01] Got it. Yeah. Dave: [47:01] One-way glass in the recording studio. Tara: [47:05] Why? Dave: [47:05] Why is that exactly? Tara: [47:05] Why would there be? Yeah. Dave: [47:07] Is that something that recording studios do so you're not distracted by the person helping you make music? And the other line that I can do without any more is you've done your homework. When the villain talks to the hero who finally figured it out, you've done your homework. Not entertained, but I don't think this is canon worthy, but I'm glad to have watched it. Shall we put this to the official vote? Kim Reed, what say you? Kim: [47:34] I'm going to say great presentation, but no. Tara: [47:38] Loved hearing you present. Wasn't mad I watched it, but yeah, I'm going to have to say no for this as well. And only because SVU sets the bar so high for bunker or exhaustity. Sarah: [47:47] And yet, so low. Tara: [47:49] Yeah. Sarah: [47:50] Yeah. Dave: [47:50] That is a good way to put it. Your merit badge for putting up with the barf scene is in the mail, but I will say no as well. So. Unfortunately, that means that Law and Order, Special Victims Unit, Season Nine, Episode Seventeen, Authority, you are hereby not inducted into the extra. Hungry again. Clip: [48:19] Americans love a winner. Yup. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. Dave: [48:24] It's time to discover who is the winner and loser of the week. Sarah has this week's winner. Sarah: [48:30] I do. It's Netflix's series All the Sinners Bleed. It has added Nicole Bahari to the cast. I love Her and I love the morning show, but the morning show is not a good show, and she deserves better than it, and I want good things. for her after all that she went through on the Ichabod Crane show, and this sounds like it's a good move for her. So well, well played, Netflix Wow. Kim: [48:56] I read the book that this is based on. It's fantastic, so I also am looking forward to it. Dave: [49:01] And Tara, who is our loser of the week. Tara: [49:04] Loser of the Week is mid-century modern. We talked about it on the main show when it came out in the spring. It has been canceled after one season at Hulu, which, like, when a streaming show takes this long to say whether they're doing another season or not, it's basically like. All right. No one expected there to be more because if it was a huge hit, they would have announced it immediately. They didn't. I'm going to quote Joe Reed when I was texting him about this last night: way worse shows get second seasons, and it's true. The show was like. Figuring itself out right around the time it was wrapping up season one, which is unfortunately also when Linda Lavin died and she was a cast member, so that can't have helped. But I'm sorry, we won't see more, but yeah, not a shock, just a bummer. Dave: [49:44] Speaking about Linda Lava dying dinner time. Tara: [49:48] Not a shock, but just a bummer, okay. Sarah: [49:52] Speaking of stuffing a monkey in a basketball. Dave: [50:03] Yeah, he didn't give me a lot to work with on that one, so I just went with my heart. Celebrity death. All right, it is game time. It is the sixth game time of the season. Our scores are. Tara with one and a half points, Sarah with one and a half points, and Value Guess leading with two points. Today, we're playing Captain Connors, oops, all HBO survivors. It comes from John Connors, who is the captain, who earns himself an extra credit. Topic of their choosing, plus a free shirt from our store at throughmethods. com. We played this game before. In this edition of Survivor, you're going to guess the number of actors who were in both the first and last episodes of HBO shows. Everybody will lock in their guests for each question closest to the pin will get two points. If there's a tie, each person involved with the tie gets one point. After the number of overlapping debut finale actors has been established, we will then hot potato the names of those actors. Until they are all named or enough players are eliminated with an incorrect guess, last person standing gets a point. Technical note: No actors are listed who just appeared in archival footage. They actually had to be in the episode acting new scenes. Sarah: [51:17] Gotcha. Thank you. Dave: [51:20] All right. No steel mills today, so let's just throw it to Picky to see who is going to be first in the order. Clip: [51:30] We will start with Sarah. Dave: [51:32] All right, so we're going to go Sarah, then Tara, then Kim. That will be the hot potato order as well. So just remember who you're. After we have fifteen questions to go through, are we ready to play Captain Connor's Oops, All HBO Survivors? Clip: [51:45] Get it out, like I will take it a rock Cause I won't know I will take it a rock Is a big old to the book. Tara: [51:48] Yes. Sarah: [51:48] Yes. Dave: [51:49] All right. So, to remind you, I'll give you the name of the show. You want to name how many actors were in both the first and last episodes of that show. Everybody's going to lock in their guests, and then we'll reveal it. First show. Oz. Clip: [52:04] It's a big up to the boat. Dave: [52:05] Oz, that one. So put your hands up when you're locked in. Again, the number of actors. At the start and end of that series, Sarah's locked in, Tara's locked in, Kim's still thinking, everybody's locked in. All right, let's start with Sarah. How many people do you think we're in the start and end of that show? Tara. Tara: [52:24] Ugh, this is making me doubt my choice, but I'm I'm gonna say five. Dave: [52:29] All right, Kim. Kim: [52:30] I was gonna say four. Dave: [52:31] First two points go to Sarah Bunting, 13 off a right answer of 10, only three away from that one. Tara: [52:37] Nice. Dave: [52:39] All right, so Sarah, you will go first in hot potato. By actor or character, either one, your choice. Clip: [52:43] Cut the boat Cause I'm very happy. Kim: [52:45] Oh, thank God. Dave: [52:46] Let's go through the 10 characters in Oz who are in the finale, but then also at the start. Sarah: [52:53] Verne Chillinger. Dave: [52:54] Furnished Cylinder, correct. Tara: [52:56] She gets a point for each. Dave: [52:58] No, last person standing gets the point. Tara: [52:58] Oh, got it. Okay. Dave: [53:00] Tara. Tara: [53:01] Okay, Lee Turguson. Dave: [53:03] Tobias Beecher, correct? Kim Actor or character name. Kim: [53:09] Everybody I'm thinking of died either in the finale or before the finale. Dave: [53:13] Well, there's that famous ghost scene. Kim: [53:18] Rita Moreno. Dave: [53:20] Back to Sarah Didn't matter. Tara: [53:21] Good job. Sarah: [53:22] Uh Winters, Dean Winters. Clip: [53:23] I don't want to play. I want to get a rock. Tara: [53:27] Uh Shelko Ivanik Right. Kim: [53:32] The other Winters? His brother, Dean's brother? Clip: [53:34] It's a major Can the book come in I'm a baby I'm a kid I will give it a rock. Kim: [53:35] Do I just know his first name? I think he died anyway. Dave: [53:38] He wasn't in the list. There were six names left. Sarah, can you name any of the other ones? Nope, that's not it. We had Ernie Hudson as the warden, Augustus Hill character, Miguel Avarez, Dr. Tara: [53:51] Uh-huh. Sarah: [53:52] Oh, yeah. Dave: [53:54] Gloria Nathan. And Tim McManus. Sarah: [53:55] Oh, sure. Dave: [53:57] Tim McManus left it on the table. Sarah: [53:57] Oh, fucking McMahon. Dave: [54:00] All right. So, Sarah walked away from the first question with three points. Tara: [54:04] Good job, Sarah. Dave: [54:05] The second show. I need you all to lock in for Sex in the City. Just the original series, not the follow-up, not the movies. Everybody is locked in. We'll start with Tara. Six says Tara. Kim says. Five, Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah: [54:22] I also had five. Dave: [54:24] Five is the correct answer. Tara: [54:26] Whoa, good job. Dave: [54:27] So one point apiece. For Sarah and Kim. Tara, you start us off on hot potato. Tara: [54:33] Sarah Jessica Parker. Dave: [54:34] Correct. Kim. Kim: [54:36] Cynthia Nixon. Dave: [54:38] Correct. Sarah. Sarah: [54:40] Uh Noth, Chris Noth. Dave: [54:42] Correct, two left. Correct, and all right, no points for a hot potato. Kim: [54:47] Question Davis Meadow, soprano. Dave: [54:50] That was an easy one. Five people, of course, it's gonna be those five. Let's continue with the Sopranos. The Sopranos. That was on HBO. How many Soprano actors/slash characters were in the premiere and the finale of Sopranos, not counting the movie, not counting Sopranos Kids cartoon series, which is something I have in my head. That's going to be made. All right. Kim, you're up first. Sarah. Tara. Tara: [55:18] Seven Robert Eiler A J. Dave: [55:19] Seven is the correct answer. Sarah: [55:22] Job, T-Bone. Dave: [55:23] Kim, you're going to start us off with hot potato. Sir. Sarah: [55:29] Uh, Carmella Uh uh yeah. Dave: [55:31] Sir. Clip: [55:32] I will give it a rock It's a big book. And the market is a market. Tara: [55:36] Yeah. Dave: [55:36] Back to Kim. Yep. Clip: [55:41] It's a big old cutable and the market I don't want to rock, I want to rock. Dave: [55:41] Sarah. Three left. Sarah: [55:45] Oh God, I hope so. Sorico, Tony Sirico, walnuts. Dave: [55:50] You are correct. Two left. Tara. Tara: [55:51] Stephen Van Zandt. Dave: [55:53] All right. So, Kim, either you get the last one or Tara gets the point. Clip: [55:56] It's a big up to the book. Kim: [55:57] Tara gets a point because she h took my answer. Dave: [56:00] No idea? Kim: [56:00] I have no idea. Dave: [56:00] You want to just throw somebody out there? Kim: [56:02] I'm trying, a lot of people died, so I'm trying to think who would have been left. Clip: [56:03] It's a big up to the book. Kim: [56:06] The priest, father, what's his nuts? Tara: [56:08] That's that would have been my guess. Dave: [56:10] Nope. Sarah, as Soprano's guru, you want to take a stab at this one? Sarah: [56:13] I don't think it was I don't think it was Melfie. I think she was not in the last episode, but. Dave: [56:17] That's correct. Tara, you want to take a stab at the last one? Tara: [56:21] I assume it's a mob guy. I don't know. Dave: [56:23] Junior, Junior Soprano is your last one. Sarah: [56:25] Oh, yeah. Tara: [56:25] Oh, Uncle Junior. Yeah, right. Dave: [56:27] Yep. Tara: [56:27] Yes, of course. Kim: [56:27] He was still alive at the end. Dave: [56:28] Okay. Kim: [56:29] All right, okay. Tara: [56:29] Yeah. Dave: [56:31] Tara sweeps that question with three points. Let's move on to six feet under. Sarah: [56:35] Oh boy. Dave: [56:35] Back to the top of the batting order. We're going to start with Sarah once everybody's locked in. All right, everybody's locked in. How many people were in the first and last episode of Six feet under Sarah Debunde. Clip: [56:45] I won't let you go. Sarah: [56:47] Ah, six Nate Fisher, Jr. Dave: [56:48] Tara Kim seven is closest to the pin The actual number 108. Tara: [56:48] I'm gonna say seven again. Clip: [56:51] I'm not going to let you go. Come to the boat. Dave: [56:57] So Tara got two points there. So let's start hot potato with Sarah D. Bunting. Six feet under. Actors or characters. Nate Fisher Jr. is who, played by who. Sarah: [57:12] Uh, what's his face? Tara: [57:13] Say it right. Dave: [57:14] Uh-huh. Sarah: [57:14] Oh, Peter Klausa, you're welcome. Dave: [57:17] Thank you. All right, very good. Tara, Kim. Tara: [57:21] Uh Lauren Ambrose. Kim: [57:24] Michael Seehaw Brenda Fisher, Rachel Griffiths. Dave: [57:26] David Fisher, correct? Back to Sarah. Sarah: [57:28] Uh Ruth Fisher Oh shit. Dave: [57:30] Ruth Fisher, Frances Conroy. Tara: [57:33] Uh Nate Fisher Senior Senior Right, Richard Jenkins, yeah. Dave: [57:35] Nate Fisher Sr. That is Richard Jenkins to Kim. We've got one, two, three left on the board. Clip: [57:46] Like I want to rock out It's a big book and the ball is a woman. Dave: [57:46] Brenda Rachel Griffiths, yes. Yep. All right, two left. Sarah: [57:51] Uh was he in the pilot? Uh fuck it, Keith. Tara: [57:56] That was my next one. Dave: [57:56] Yes. All right. Tara: [57:57] I guess I Rico. Dave: [57:57] Do or die time for Tara. Yes. Tara: [58:01] Oh, man, no points. Dave: [58:01] You swept it. Sarah: [58:01] Oh, shit, nice. Kim: [58:01] Oh wow. Dave: [58:02] No points. Denied Sarah the point at the end. Clip: [58:03] It's a big book and a ball. Dave: [58:05] Nicely done. Next up, guys, it's the wire. Clip: [58:07] I want to like I want to take a rock out of it a rock It's a big up to the book. Tara: [58:09] Oh, no. Sarah: [58:10] Oh no, the wire. Dave: [58:10] Yes, the wire. How many actors, characters were in the first and the last episode of The Wire? Everybody's thinking. Starting with Tara. Eight, says Tara Kim. Clip: [58:25] It's a big up to the book. Dave: [58:26] Three, Sarah. Wow. All right, we have a closest. It is Tara with eight. Actual number, double that, 16. Kim: [58:35] Oh no. Tara: [58:35] Whoa. Sarah: [58:35] Oh, Jesus. Dave: [58:37] All right, hot potato 16. Tara: [58:37] Okay, so I get one point. Sarah: [58:39] Okay. Dave: [58:40] Two points for you. Tara: [58:41] Oh, okay. Dave: [58:41] Yeah, one point at the guessing only if it's a tie. Tara: [58:45] Okay. Dave: [58:45] All right, that means you are up first for our hot potato as well. Tara: [58:48] Um, Lester. Ah, well, that was fast. Dave: [58:51] No, apparently not. Sarah: [58:52] Oh, okay, wow. Dave: [58:55] I think somebody should double check that because that feels wrong. Tara: [58:56] Bye No, it's he's probably not in the pilot. Dave: [58:59] So maybe somebody could double check that. Yeah, okay. Tara: [59:02] He's probably introduced later. Dave: [59:04] Okay, so we move on to Kim Bunk Correct Wendell Pierce McNutty, yes, of course. Sarah: [59:11] Ah, McNutty. Dave: [59:15] Dominic West, back to Kim. Clip: [59:17] Is a big old moon. Kim: [59:18] Oh boy, I was so ready. Dave: [59:21] Fourteen left, Kim. Kim: [59:23] I just don't remember anybody's name. I can picture all their faces, and I'm just I'm trying to remember their names. Clip: [59:25] Is it made up to the book? Dave: [59:26] If you can do a really good really good job describing their face. Clip: [59:30] Like I want to make a move I'm going to make Is a big coming out of my baby. Kim: [59:32] And then, also, who was in the first episode is the one I'm having, part I'm having trouble with. Bunny. Dave: [59:37] Ooh, I think Bunny is a second or third season edition. Kim: [59:41] Yeah, I thought so too, but that was the only name I could remember. Sarah: [59:42] Oh, yeah, Bunny Colby. Dave: [59:42] Yeah. Coven, Colvin. Tara: [59:45] Yeah. Kim: [59:45] Colvin, yeah. Dave: [59:46] Yeah. All right. So, Sarah D. Bunting, you get the point for Hot Potato on the Wire. Next up, Deadwood. Tara: [59:52] Nice. Dave: [59:53] Deadwood. And Kim is up first, I believe, for this one. Sarah: [59:55] Oh, fuck. Dave: [59:57] Yes. Sarah: [59:57] Fucking shit. Kim: [59:58] I never watched I never watched Deadwood Timothy Olivant I'm just going to guess an actor that feels like he would be in Deadwood. Dave: [59:58] Deadwood. All right, everybody's locked in. Clip: [1:00:02] Isn't it a boy? Dave: [1:00:03] Kim, how many are you guessing for Deadwood? First and last episode. Four Sarah Six Tara All right, two sixes Those are the closest, so you'll split points one each. Tara: [1:00:11] I also was going to say six. Clip: [1:00:15] I'm a district of being a boat. Dave: [1:00:19] Actual number fifteen All right, Kim, you haven't watched Deadwood, but can you name an actor or character from Deadwood you think were in both the bookend episodes? Tara: [1:00:21] Wow, that's insane. Sarah: [1:00:21] Oh, crap. Dave: [1:00:32] Timothy Elephant, yes. Sarah. Sarah: [1:00:35] Joni played by maybe someone named Kim. Dave: [1:00:38] Oh, Jonah. Sarah: [1:00:38] Wasn't there. Dave: [1:00:39] Yeah, no, she comes later. Sarah: [1:00:40] Oh, okay. Dave: [1:00:42] Tara. Sarah: [1:00:42] I'm out. Dave: [1:00:44] Al Swerigen, Ian McShane. Yes, back to Kim. It's going to be tough for Kim. Clip: [1:00:48] Cut the boy. Dave: [1:00:51] Oh, yeah, okay, this is good. Yep. Okay, wait, wait. Like, like dirty mustache, that kind of guy. Sarah: [1:00:54] That's what I was gonna do. Kim: [1:00:56] Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Jim Beavers. Dave: [1:00:57] Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Jim Beavers, you know, he was in, but he's not in both. Sarah: [1:01:01] Oh, yeah. Tara: [1:01:02] He is not, yeah. Sarah: [1:01:06] Also played D B Cooper, if I'm not mistaken. Tara: [1:01:07] Mm-hmm. Sarah: [1:01:09] I remember them all. Dave: [1:01:09] We left a lot on the table. We got Doc Cochran, Charlie Utter, A. W. Merrick, Soul Star, Mr. Wu, Tom Nuttle. Sarah: [1:01:16] Thought about guessing Sol Star Uh Chloe Seveny. Dave: [1:01:18] Alma, Trixie, Constableton, Calamity Jane, Johnny Burns, Dan Doherty and E. B. Farnum. Tara: [1:01:24] Damn. Kim: [1:01:25] Those are all real character names. You didn't just make those up as a massive prank on me. Dave: [1:01:27] Those are all rootin' tootin' Deadwood characters, some of them historical. Tara: [1:01:28] They're they're all real. Clip: [1:01:32] Cause I make a whole makeup Cut the book, and the bar came up with a cut. Dave: [1:01:32] All right, let's move on to big love. Lock in for big love. Kim, did you watch big love? Fantastic. All right. Sarah Deep Bunting, start us off on Big Love. Tara. Tara: [1:01:44] Eight Wow, good job. Dave: [1:01:45] Kim. Sarah DeBunting, closest to the pin, actual number, one away at 12. Clip: [1:01:49] I'm the bar A potato, potato, potato, potato, hot potato, potato, potato, potato, hot potato, potato. Dave: [1:01:52] At 12. All right. So, Sarah, you're going to start us off on hot potato. Oh, my God. I haven't been playing the hot potato clip. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ, what's wrong with me? All right, I'll give you time to think. Chloe in seventeen Jennifer Goodwin to Kim. Tara: [1:02:13] Jennifer Goodwin. Kim: [1:02:18] You know, what's his name? Bill, the patriarch of the family? Dave: [1:02:22] Well, I'll give you Bill. That's fine. Kim: [1:02:23] Rip for that guy he died. Dave: [1:02:25] Bill Paxton or Bill Hendrickson. Kim: [1:02:25] Paxton. I could have started naming his IMDb. Dave: [1:02:29] Yeah. Kim: [1:02:29] That's usually what I do. Clip: [1:02:29] I want to rock. Dave: [1:02:30] You know what? We're on a first-name basis with big love. We'll accept Bill. Kim: [1:02:33] Thank you. Dave: [1:02:34] Back to Sarah. Sarah: [1:02:35] What's his face with the you know Crags. Clip: [1:02:39] It's a big one, don't you? Sarah: [1:02:39] Ah. Oh my god. Why can't I? He's a three-namer and I can't. Harry Dean Stanton. Tara: [1:02:46] I think he died. Gene Triplehorn. Sarah: [1:02:50] Oh, yeah, trips. Dave: [1:02:51] Lots on the lots on the table still. Kim: [1:02:54] I don't I watch this every episode of the show. Clip: [1:02:54] Cause I'll make a whole bunch of people. Kim: [1:02:56] I don't remember a thing about it. Yeah, I'm out. You can buzz me. I don't know. Dave: [1:03:01] Were you thinking of Bruce Dern? Tara: [1:03:03] They were both in it. Sarah: [1:03:03] Oh shit. Tara: [1:03:04] Harry Dean Stanton was in it, too. Sarah: [1:03:04] I think I might have been thinking. Dave: [1:03:05] Oh, yeah. Tara: [1:03:06] They both were. Sarah: [1:03:06] Yeah. Dave: [1:03:07] Yeah. All right. Next show is True Blood, HBO's True Blood lock in for your number of actors that were in The premiere and finale. Sarah: [1:03:10] Oh fuck. This fucking thing. Clip: [1:03:14] Like a rocket, to the big rock and make Can you book it up? Dave: [1:03:16] Everybody's locked in. We are starting with Tara. Five for Tara to Kim. To Sarah. Sarah: [1:03:23] I also said six. Dave: [1:03:24] All right, that means you two are splitting the points, one each, actual number nine. So let's deal with the hot potato for True Blood. Clip: [1:03:33] A potato, potato, potato, potato, hot potato, potato, potato, potato, hot potato, potato. Dave: [1:03:34] Hot potato Tara Steven correct to Kim. Kim: [1:03:46] I watched one episode of this show ever. Dave: [1:03:48] Mhm. Mhm. Kim: [1:03:49] A picture? Yeah, I don't know. Dave: [1:03:50] Okay. Kim: [1:03:51] You can pose me. Dave: [1:03:52] All right. Kim: [1:03:52] I'm out. Dave: [1:03:52] Kim's out. Sir. Sarah: [1:03:54] Is there a thing called a Su Suki stack house? Dave: [1:03:57] Yes, and a Pacquin Lafayette Reals. Tara: [1:03:58] Yep. Sarah: [1:04:00] And I'm out. Tara: [1:04:01] Uh Nelson Ellis. Clip: [1:04:01] It's a memory of my daughter. Dave: [1:04:06] What the fuck are these names? Sarah: [1:04:07] Yeah, Louisiana. Clip: [1:04:08] It's a memory of myself. Dave: [1:04:08] All right. Sarah: [1:04:09] Um i was the SARS guard already taken? Dave: [1:04:13] Not in, not in both. Tara: [1:04:13] He comes later. Dave: [1:04:15] Yeah, he wasn't in the premiere, I guess. Sarah: [1:04:15] Oh Oh, Christ. Dave: [1:04:17] All right, so that is one point to Tara for the hot potato. All right, this will take us into our score break. The HBO show you all watched religiously. Next up is Entourage. Entourage. How many actors were at the start and end of Entourage? Sarah just hurt herself. I felt that one. Sarah: [1:04:37] I did. Clip: [1:04:38] Is a big old cutoff. Dave: [1:04:38] I felt that. Sarah: [1:04:39] Oh, right of the point. Dave: [1:04:39] All right. Kim will start us off with entourage numbers. Sarah. Clip: [1:04:46] It's a big old cutoff. Dave: [1:04:46] Tara. That is the correct answer. One point for Kim, one point Tara. It is five. So let's do hot potato on the five entourage actor or character names Kim. Kim: [1:04:56] Uh Adrian Greenier Binny Let's hug it out. Sarah: [1:05:02] Kevin Dillon The Piv. Tara: [1:05:05] Sassy Zone, Kevin Dylan. Uh E Eric something. Dave: [1:05:09] E? Oh, okay. Tara: [1:05:12] They call him E. Dave: [1:05:12] Eric Murphy, Kevin Connolly. Tara: [1:05:13] Yeah. That's it. Dave: [1:05:15] All right, two left. Clip: [1:05:16] Cause I'm made up to work. Dave: [1:05:17] Kim. Turtle. All right. One left. Sarah de Bunting. One left. Clip: [1:05:23] Cause I'm made It's a big one. Dave: [1:05:23] Ari goal. Tara: [1:05:24] That's the one R IP his career. Dave: [1:05:25] Jeremy Piven. All right. Sarah: [1:05:31] Oh, yeah, Jesus. Dave: [1:05:32] All right, no points there for hot potato. Let's get the scores to this point, please. We are well over halfway done. Tara: [1:05:38] I have three for Kim, nine for Sarah, eleven for me. Does that line up with yours as well? Sarah: [1:05:46] Yes, it does. Dave: [1:05:47] Do you concur? Tara: [1:05:47] Thank you, Sarah. Sarah: [1:05:49] I do, I do concur. Dave: [1:05:51] All right, well, let's get back to it with Boardwalk Empire. Boardwalk Empire, in which a villain loves to be choked out. Remember that Sarah Debunting, what is your number? Tara: [1:06:03] Yeah. Sarah: [1:06:03] No, but thanks for bringing it up, Barv. Three Oh, nice. Dave: [1:06:09] Tara. Tara: [1:06:09] Yeah, I had two. Dave: [1:06:10] Wow, Kim. Kim takes it. Tara: [1:06:14] Nice. Dave: [1:06:14] Four was closest to six. Six is our number. So, Sarah, start us off Boardwalk Empire actors or character names. Sarah: [1:06:22] Nucky Thompson. Dave: [1:06:25] You are correct. Tara: [1:06:27] Oh, Shea Wiggum. Clip: [1:06:28] It's a good one. Dave: [1:06:28] Shea Wiggum. Tara: [1:06:30] Wiggum. Clip: [1:06:30] It's a bad boy. Dave: [1:06:30] Also correct, Kim. Kim: [1:06:32] Paz de la Huerta. I never watched the show. Dave: [1:06:35] I don't think she made it to the end. Kim: [1:06:37] I didn't think so either, but I know she was on it. Dave: [1:06:38] Shopping! Oh man, it's been so long since we've done that. Do I still even have shopping in? Sarah: [1:06:43] I was gonna ask, oh, hey girl. Clip: [1:06:44] Shopping Is a big old camera. Dave: [1:06:45] Of course I do. All right, so it is Sarah again. Sarah: [1:06:50] Uh I'm gonna guess Margaret, who was played by Kelly McDonald. Dave: [1:06:56] You are correct. Tara: [1:06:57] I didn't think she lasted till the end. Michael Shannon? Sarah: [1:06:59] Me neither. Dave: [1:07:01] Two left. Oh, yeah. Sarah: [1:07:03] Is it back to me? Dave: [1:07:05] Yeah, back to you. Sarah: [1:07:06] I could describe her to a sketch artist. Clip: [1:07:07] It's a big old cat. Sarah: [1:07:08] It's that freckly lady from Criminal Intent who played Mabel someone or other who was a Prohibition agent. Dave: [1:07:14] Nope. Two left. I know you got the point already, Tara, but any guesses here? Tara: [1:07:19] I'm s I have so little memory of that show. Dave: [1:07:22] Yeah. Tara: [1:07:22] I I want to s is it was it Dabney Coleman who was the Commodore? Clip: [1:07:22] It's a big up to the book. Dave: [1:07:25] Oh, yeah, the Commodore. Sarah: [1:07:26] Oh, yeah, the dabs We know Michael Pitt wasn't No, Chalky croaked. Dave: [1:07:27] No, he's not in both of them. Tara: [1:07:28] Uh I know Michael Pitt dies. Dave: [1:07:28] I think he dies as well. Clip: [1:07:30] It's a big coming to the book. Dave: [1:07:33] Two uh other city gangsters Nope Yep, Stephen Graham. Tara: [1:07:36] Oh, uh Michael K. Williams. Did he? Chit. Sarah: [1:07:43] It was C was it Capone? Tara: [1:07:45] Oh, Stephen Graham from Adolescence Now Bodies Oh one KB Oh, sure, sure. Sarah: [1:07:46] And then He was a good Capone. Dave: [1:07:48] No, Stephen Graham from uh A what the hell was it? A what is it? Sarah: [1:07:54] He was in Mobile Ant also, wasn't he? Dave: [1:07:56] Show one KB. Thank you. All right. Clip: [1:08:00] Is a big computer. Dave: [1:08:00] I don't think that's what we decided on, but okay, and the other one was Vincent Piazza as Lucky Luciano. Sarah: [1:08:06] Oh, yeah, okay. Dave: [1:08:07] All right, next up, we're getting towards the end here, guys. Clip: [1:08:07] Isn't it a bow and I won't be a woman A potato, potato, potato, potato, hot potato, potato, potato, potato, hot potato, potato. Dave: [1:08:10] HBO show Veep. Tara, here start us off with Veep numbers. Tara: [1:08:14] Five Nice The question is, will Dave go back and add it in post all the times he forgot? Dave: [1:08:15] Kim, Sarah. Sarah is closest one off, the real number seven. Very close. All right, so Tara start us off with hot potato for V. No. Tara: [1:08:39] Tony Hale. Yeah. Sarah: [1:08:43] Yeah, it's about as much as I can take. Tara: [1:08:44] That's fine. Dave: [1:08:45] All right, Kim. Kim: [1:08:47] Julia Louis Dreyfus. Dave: [1:08:48] Of course. Sarah? Sarah: [1:08:50] Uh Anna Chlumski? Dave: [1:08:53] Yep. Tar. Tara: [1:08:55] Um, Dan, who's played by Reed someone. Clip: [1:08:57] Like I want to make it all like a cut Don't do that. Dave: [1:08:59] Read Scott, Dan Egan. Tara: [1:09:00] Thank you. Kim: [1:09:01] Literally was writing down the word read as you were saying it. Dave: [1:09:01] Yes. Hm. Three left, Kim. Actor or character name will suffice. First name is fine, too. Kim: [1:09:11] I don't know. I know who I'm thinking. I can't think of his name, so you can buzz me. Dave: [1:09:16] Okay, get ready to describe them later. Sarah, you got to get this or Tara gets the point. Sarah: [1:09:21] Yeah, I don't know if he was in the show at all, much less in both first and last. Let's go with Gary Cole. Dave: [1:09:32] Gary Cole, not in both. All right. Clip: [1:09:35] So it's the rock. Dave: [1:09:36] First, Kim, describe the person you're thinking of. Sarah: [1:09:36] Okay. Clip: [1:09:37] Cause I'm very comfortable. Kim: [1:09:38] It was Gary Cole. Dave: [1:09:39] Oh, it was Gary Cole. All right. Tara, can you get any of the three on the table still? Tara: [1:09:43] Timothy Simons. Clip: [1:09:44] It's a me coming to the boat. Dave: [1:09:45] Timothy Simons has Joan Aray Ryan, yep. Sarah: [1:09:46] Oh, shit. Tara: [1:09:47] Yeah, Mike McClintock. Sarah: [1:09:47] Right, Jonah. Kim: [1:09:48] Oh, I didn't think he was in the pilot. Dave: [1:09:50] Mike McClintock, Matt Walsh, yes, one left. Tara: [1:09:52] And the one who played the assistant, who I think her name, the actress's name is Sufi Bradshaw or something like that. Dave: [1:09:57] Yep. Played Sue. Tara: [1:09:59] Sue! Dave: [1:09:59] Yep. All right. Nicely done. All right. So Tari got the hot potato point there. All right. Next show: Game of Thrones. Tara: [1:10:06] Oh, God. Sarah: [1:10:07] Oh, fuck off. Dave: [1:10:08] Game of Thrones, another show that loves to kill off characters, though, so it might not be astronomical. Tara: [1:10:09] Game of fuck off. That's true. Dave: [1:10:13] But then again, there are 10,000 characters per episode in that show, so it might be astronomical. Sarah: [1:10:17] I don't know anyone's name. Dave: [1:10:18] Game of Thrones. Sarah: [1:10:19] And being like the greasy one, that's not gonna work. Clip: [1:10:22] Is a big computer to make up to the board I want to move on. Dave: [1:10:23] For Game of Thrones, you can use my methodology, which is like Dragon Lady, and I'll be fine with it. So, you know, for this one only. All right, Sarah's locked in. Tara's locked in. Kim is locked in, and Kim will give us our first number for Game of Thrones. Clip: [1:10:35] This is the work of me coming up. Dave: [1:10:38] 10. Sarah. Tara. Tara: [1:10:41] Six Good job. Dave: [1:10:42] Kim takes two points, 10, 2 away from 8. Clip: [1:10:45] Cool, and the ball. Dave: [1:10:46] 8 is our number. Not terrible. Not terrible. All right, so Kim, start us off. Game of Throne actors or character names or. Decent character descriptions. Kim: [1:10:56] Brian Stark. Dave: [1:10:59] Correct. Bran Stark. Sarah: [1:11:01] Something called a Tyrion. Dave: [1:11:04] Yes, Peter Dinkledge. Sarah: [1:11:06] Yes, thank you. Tara: [1:11:08] Um Kit Harrington. Dave: [1:11:09] Kit Harrington. What's up with that guy these days? Tara: [1:11:13] He just got cast in something. Dave: [1:11:14] Okay, good for him. Tara: [1:11:15] I'll look it up. Kim: [1:11:15] He knows nothing. Dave: [1:11:16] No. Kim: [1:11:17] Uh Arya Stark Maisie Williams. Dave: [1:11:17] Uh, back to Kim. Correct. We call it Maisie. Sarah: [1:11:25] Uh blonde dragon lady. Dave: [1:11:28] Blonde Dragon Lady will accept that. Kim: [1:11:30] Daenerys, Targaryen, first of her name, breaker of chains. Dave: [1:11:30] Amelia Clark. Oh boy. Kim: [1:11:34] That was a big Came of Thrones guy. Sarah: [1:11:34] I mean, last of her name, as far as my brain is concerned. Dave: [1:11:36] Oh boy. Tara: [1:11:39] He's going to be in A Tale of Two Cities at BBC and the alleged network MGM Plus. Dave: [1:11:45] Ah, double scale. Tara: [1:11:46] That's what's up with Kit Harrington. Okay, back to the list, which is Sansa Stark. Dave: [1:11:54] Sophie Turner, correct, two left, Kim. Clip: [1:11:56] Like I want to get a rock, I want to get a rock It's a me coming to the book. Kim: [1:11:57] Jamie Lannister. Dave: [1:12:00] Correct. All right. One on the board, Sarah. Keep in mind, you can't describe them. Tara: [1:12:03] There's no way. Dave: [1:12:06] Their actions, their deeds, their appearance. Sarah: [1:12:07] I can. Tara: [1:12:09] Oh, she might get it. Sarah: [1:12:10] Things that they don't have, like testicles, I think his name started with a V. Clip: [1:12:13] It's a me coming to the boat. Dave: [1:12:15] Oh, the the eunuch? Sarah: [1:12:16] At least give me a Dave point for knowing that there was a eunuch named like Varis or Varius or Varian or thank you. Clip: [1:12:18] Don't do that, don't you like it? Kim: [1:12:19] Yep, bear us. Dave: [1:12:21] Verus? Okay. All right. I mean, have a date point. Sarah: [1:12:23] But So Kim gets a point. Dave: [1:12:25] I wouldn't be able to pull that name in 20,000 years. Game of Thrones is not my thing. All right. There's one left. Anyone know who it is? Tara: [1:12:32] Is it um go ahead? Dave: [1:12:33] Kim knows. Kim: [1:12:35] Cersei Lannister. Dave: [1:12:36] Yes, correct. Tara: [1:12:36] That's what I was going to say. Kim: [1:12:39] By one category. Dave: [1:12:41] Big points for Kim there. Three points. Tara: [1:12:43] Nice. Dave: [1:12:43] All right. Three shows left. Let's get the scores at this point. Sarah: [1:12:46] Wow, it's getting close. Tara: [1:12:49] Okay. Um, I have Kim with eight, Sarah with eleven, and me with thirteen. Dave: [1:12:54] Oh, Cambie really closed the gap. Sarah: [1:12:55] I I concur. Tara: [1:12:56] Yep. Dave: [1:12:57] All right. Tara: [1:12:57] Thank you. Dave: [1:12:58] Next show, HBO show. We have to figure out how many actors or characters were in. Sarah: [1:13:02] Oh no, I'm scared. Dave: [1:13:07] Finale, but also in the premiere, is the leftovers. The leftovers. Sarah: [1:13:13] Who was left over at the end? Clip: [1:13:13] Cause I make a lot of money. Dave: [1:13:14] Who was left over from the leftovers? Uh oh, everybody disappeared. That was the theme song in the third season, remember? Clip: [1:13:21] Cause I make a lot of money. Cool, I can't walk in the book. Dave: [1:13:23] Uh oh, everybody's gone. Sarah: [1:13:23] Mhm. Dave: [1:13:26] Where are they? All right, everybody's locked in. We will start with Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah: [1:13:31] Seven Whoa comes Reed. Dave: [1:13:32] Seven, Tara. Tara: [1:13:33] Six nice Uh Justin Theroux. Dave: [1:13:34] Kim Four is correct. Kim: [1:13:35] Four. Another show I didn't really watch. Dave: [1:13:42] The girl nobody liked just won the leftover Super Bowl. Clip: [1:13:43] Is a big old colour. Dave: [1:13:49] All right, Sarah debunting, the four actors or characters that were in the leftover start and end. Clip: [1:13:51] Is it the boat? Dave: [1:13:56] Go. Sarah: [1:13:57] Well, shit. Janelle Maloney. Dave: [1:14:00] Jill Maloney Tar Wait, you're saying the character's name is Amy? Sarah: [1:14:02] No, Janelle. Sorry. Okay. Tara: [1:14:14] Uh um oh, uh why can't I pull her name? She was judging Amy. Um, and I feel like her name is Amy Farrell. I can't remember her last name. Dave: [1:14:30] Is that your answer? Tara: [1:14:31] No, she was judging Amy, but the I can't remember the actor's name. Dave: [1:14:31] Oh. Oh, I see. Tara: [1:14:34] Amy WhatsAre Nuts with the big hair. Sarah: [1:14:34] Yeah, with the big hair, I would accept that. Dave: [1:14:36] Uh. I will not accept first name for actors, just for characters. Tara: [1:14:39] Okay. I can't I can't remember. I'm drawing a blank. Dave: [1:14:42] All right, so Kim is going to sweep this one, but you got a guess here for the one of the last two? Kim: [1:14:48] Well, the one Tara was trying to think of was Amy Brennan, but I was going to guess Regina King. Tara: [1:14:51] Thank you. Dave: [1:14:51] Yes No Christopher Eccleson was your fourth. Tara: [1:14:55] She wasn't in season one. Kim: [1:14:55] No? Sarah: [1:14:56] No God d that's why I guess Maloney shit, he was so good in that. Kim: [1:14:58] Ah, Doctor Who? Tara: [1:14:58] Yeah. Yep. Dave: [1:15:03] Two shows left, guys. Our next one is EHG Fave Westworlds. Asterisk, it wasn't. Clip: [1:15:18] Like I want it, I rock. Dave: [1:15:18] All right, everybody's locked in. Tara, you're up first. How many? Tara: [1:15:21] I don't know, five. Dave: [1:15:24] That was hostile. Clip: [1:15:26] I want to rock It's a big up to the book after they come to the book and the ball is a book Like I want it, I rock Cause I make a move like I want it a rock Cause I make Cause I'm like, oh, come on, oh. Dave: [1:15:26] Kim, Sarah. Sarah: [1:15:29] I also said five. Dave: [1:15:30] All right, so that means you two will split the points. You were closest, but it was eight. Eight. Tara: [1:15:37] Okay. Dave: [1:15:37] So, Tara, you gotta start off West Wing character or actors in both the premiere and finale. Sarah: [1:15:41] West World, you mean? Tara: [1:15:43] Tandyway Newton. Dave: [1:15:44] Did I just say West Wing? Kim: [1:15:45] Yeah, I wish it was Westwig. Tara: [1:15:45] No, you said West you said Westworld originally. Sarah: [1:15:45] Yeah, you did. Tara: [1:15:47] I knew what you meant. Sarah: [1:15:47] The Bartlett bot. Dave: [1:15:48] Either West World or West Wing will combine the two. All right. Turn. Tara: [1:15:53] Candyway Newton. Kim: [1:15:56] Pass. Dave: [1:15:57] Pass pass really Oh man, all right You could have said robot. Tara: [1:15:57] Whoa. Kim: [1:15:58] I don't know one person who was on this show. I did not watch one second of it. Tara: [1:16:01] Damn it was, you know, that's fine. Kim: [1:16:03] No commercials for it? Tara: [1:16:05] You don't have to. Kim: [1:16:08] I know there was a girl, but I don't know who she was. So turned out she was a robot. Spoiler. Dave: [1:16:14] All right, Sarah. Sarah: [1:16:16] Uh jevan Rachel Wood Fuck, that was going to be my guess, so I'm stuck with that Harris. Dave: [1:16:21] That's it. Tar Bernard. Tara: [1:16:24] Jeffrey Wright. Okay. Dave: [1:16:33] Back to Tara. Tara: [1:16:34] Great. I'm happy we're back with me. Dave: [1:16:38] We're halfway through. Tara: [1:16:38] I think they killed him for realsies, but I can't think of anyone else, so I have to say James Marston. Oh! Dave: [1:16:45] Teddy Flood was that character's name. Tara: [1:16:47] I'm surprised. Dave: [1:16:49] Oh boy, this is tough. Clip: [1:16:49] Cause I'm back. Dave: [1:16:51] Well, there's one name I recognize on this. But I couldn't, I would never pull them. Sarah: [1:16:56] And that name is Robbie Benson. Dave: [1:17:01] All right, we had Clementine the character, Clementine Pentyfeather. Sarah: [1:17:03] No Now you're just making up Hem's words. Tara: [1:17:04] Yeah. Oh. I moderated a panel she was on and I don't remember her name either. Dave: [1:17:09] Angela Seraph Seraphian. Tara: [1:17:11] Seraphian, yes. Dave: [1:17:12] Okay. Stephen Og like org og Vorbis, the audio format. Tara: [1:17:15] Sure. Mhm. Uh-huh. Dave: [1:17:22] And Luke Helmsworth. Hemsworth. Luke Hemsworth. No L. Clip: [1:17:27] Is a big old clear is a big comb. Sarah: [1:17:30] I don't appreciate it. Dave: [1:17:30] Reggie. Reggie Hemsworth. All right, guys. Tara: [1:17:34] Okay, who got that one? Me? Dave: [1:17:35] Uh yes, you got that one. Sarah: [1:17:36] Yes. Tara: [1:17:36] Okay. Sarah: [1:17:37] Oh, shit. Dave: [1:17:37] Last show. Sarah: [1:17:38] Okay. Clip: [1:17:38] I'm not going to do that. Dave: [1:17:39] Everybody ready? Tara: [1:17:39] Oh my god, what could it be? Clip: [1:17:40] I'm a touch of rack. Sarah: [1:17:41] No. Tara: [1:17:41] What's left? Sarah: [1:17:41] If it's our list, I'm going to kill myself. Dave: [1:17:43] It's, I wish it was Arlist now. Tara: [1:17:44] Girls. Dave: [1:17:46] Barry. Tara: [1:17:47] Oh, Barry, sure. Dave: [1:17:48] Barry. All right, first and last episodes of Barry. Lock in your number for the very last show of the quiz. Sarah: [1:17:56] I don't know who's in this fucking show. Dave: [1:17:58] Everybody's locked in. All right. Kim, you're going to finish us off. Here we go. Three for Kim to Sarah and Tara. Tara: [1:18:07] Four as well. Dave: [1:18:08] You two are the closest. It was five, so you split a point there. All right, Kim, you got to start us off with character or actor names that were in the bookend episodes of Barry. Kim: [1:18:20] Bill Hayter is Barry There's only one more? Sarah: [1:18:24] Henry Winkler as his character. Dave: [1:18:27] Jean Cousineau, yes. Tara: [1:18:28] I didn't remember if he survived to the end. No ho Hank. Dave: [1:18:31] No ho Hank, Anthony Kerrigan, and there's two more. Kim: [1:18:37] There's two more. Clip: [1:18:38] So much don't do that. Kim: [1:18:38] I can think of the character, but I don't know the character's name or the actor who played it, so buzz me. Clip: [1:18:40] So this is going to kill me, don't you? Dave: [1:18:45] You have been buzzed. Clip: [1:18:45] So much don't do that. Dave: [1:18:46] Down to Sarah and Tara. Clip: [1:18:47] So this is going to kill Is a weird bow. Sarah: [1:18:48] I don't remember who else was in the show. Jeffrey Tamber. Dave: [1:18:54] All right, so you got the point, Tara, but can you name the other two? Tara: [1:18:56] Yep. Clip: [1:18:56] It's a weird chillin' up. Tara: [1:18:58] Sally and F Fuchs. Dave: [1:18:59] Sally Reid, Sarah Goldberg. Kim: [1:18:59] Sally Good job, Tara. Sarah: [1:19:00] Oh, sure. Right. Clip: [1:19:02] I want to take a look at the cold cream upgrade. Dave: [1:19:02] And Stephen Root as Fuchs, yes, correct. Sarah: [1:19:05] Oh, yeah, root. Dave: [1:19:07] All right, that's regulation, guys. Sarah: [1:19:07] Okay. Dave: [1:19:08] I want to hear the scores. Sarah: [1:19:10] Thank God. Tara: [1:19:10] Boy, this was a very hard fought battle, and I'm proud of all of us. Kim finished with 12. Sarah had 13. I have 16. Dave: [1:19:19] Ooh, nicely done. All right, so today belongs to Tari Ariano. Sarah: [1:19:24] Good job, T-Bone. Tara: [1:19:25] Woo! Sarah: [1:19:31] Hot Tara, hot Tara It's not gonna be me. Dave: [1:19:33] Somebody's going to complain I still didn't play it enough, but there you go. One at the end for you. That is it for another episode of Extra Hot Great. We pocket fair catch cornerback line to scrimmage the guy. In the fake no show, Chad Powers. Before going around the dial with stops at on brand with Jimmy Fallon, Ozzy and U. Survivor, Big Brother, the Challenged Jet Leg, and the Amazing Race. High maintenance was our pick from Sarah. Sarah tried to get a monkey in the basketball less episode of Law and Order SVU into the canon and failed because. No monkey into basketball is what I'm hearing. We crowned winners and losers of the week, and Tara was a winner of this week's game time from John. Next up is the new force, yeah, on extra, extra hot gray. Remember. Clip: [1:20:25] We're listening. Bye. Dave: [1:20:28] I am David T. Cole, and on behalf of Tara Ariano. Tara: [1:20:31] I don't condone what he did, but I understand where he's coming from. Dave: [1:20:34] Sarah debunting and Kim Reed. Sarah: [1:20:36] I'll allow it. Kim: [1:20:39] Um-ha, hut, hut. Dave: [1:20:41] Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time right here on Extra Hot Gray. Clip: [1:20:54] It's been fun. Dave: [1:20:57] Fine.