Superstore creator Justin Spitzer has teamed up with Eric Ledgin for a new sitcom set at an Oregon hospital. Is it goofier than the subject matter demands? Stephanie Early Green returns to talk about it. Around The Dial takes us through Married At First Sight, Anatomy Of Lies, Sister Wives, Cruel Doubt, and The Penguin. Stephanie pitches the 10th episode of Australia’s Instant Hotel‘s first season for induction into The Canon. Then, after naming the week’s Winner and Loser, we close up with a Game Time about TV shows that burned brightly, but too briefly (and…not always brightly). Put your feet up — in or out of traction; that’s up to you — and join us!
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Nov 13, 2024 Seeking Treatment With St. Denis Medical
Stephanie Early Green returns to discuss NBC’s new hospital sitcom!
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Dave:
[0:24] This is the Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 536 for the week of November 11th, 2024. I am Postmates Largesse, David T. Cole, and I'm here with Creeping Spleen, Sarah D. Bunting.
Sarah:
[0:42] That's fine. I could drive myself.
Dave:
[0:44] Best Breast Test in the West, Tara Arianna.
Tara:
[0:47] Squish.
Dave:
[0:48] And Open Hospital Gown, Stephanie Early Green.
Stephanie:
[0:52] Catheter bag in the front, party in the back.
Dave:
[0:57] I almost got through Tara's, but I fucked it up.
Tara:
[1:00] Listen, I, that was a test and you failed.
Sarah:
[1:05] Okay, bring it on.
Dave:
[1:06] Let's do this.
Tara:
[1:08] Welcome to X-Star Hog. Great for another week joining us. She's a writer. You've heard with us many times before. It's Stephanie Early Green. Welcome back, Stephanie.
Sarah:
[1:18] Stephanie.
Stephanie:
[1:19] Thank you for having me back.
Tara:
[1:21] We're thrilled to have you back for something I hope you liked better than the boring documentary Andrew, we had you on for last time with the Peugeot guy. Anyway.
Stephanie:
[1:31] The evil Mr. Bean.
Tara:
[1:32] That's right.
Dave:
[1:33] Oh, that guy.
Tara:
[1:35] Got here to talk about St. Dennis Medical. Oregon's St. Dennis Medical has a lot in common with most hospitals you've probably visited in your life. Surgeons are arrogant, doctors are tired, and nurses are overworked since they're the ones who deliver most of the medical care to patients. Alex, Allison Tolman, has just taken on a promotion as head nurse and is finding it difficult to limit her time at work to the hours she is actually getting paid for. Joyce, Wendy McClendon-Covey, has transitioned into administration after years as an oncologist, but her dreams of turning the hospital into a world-class facility may not be entirely realistic. Dr. Ron, David Alan Greer, spends more time completing paperwork than he does with his patients. And new nurse Matt, Miki Leaper, is having a hard time adjusting to the pace of hospital work after leaving his deeply religious community or possibly cult in Montana. Also, there are patients. At least in the first couple of episodes, most of them live. The show was co-created by Justin Spitzer and Eric Legend, who previously worked together on Superstore, which Spitzer created. As you're hearing this, two episodes have aired on NBC with more airing weekly on Tuesdays. Let's do the Chen check-in. Stephanie, should our listeners watch St. Dennis Medical?
Stephanie:
[2:50] Nah.
Tara:
[2:51] Sarah.
Sarah:
[2:53] Okay.
Stephanie:
[2:54] Dave?
Dave:
[2:55] Better than American Auto, nowhere near as good as Superstore.
Tara:
[2:58] I agree with that 100%. American Auto was the show that Justin Spitzer made post-Superstore, which we will get into. It's fine. I'm going to probably keep watching it, but I understand why people might not. Stephanie, let's start with you. On a scale of one to Michael Scott, where would you place Joyce as our lead?
Stephanie:
[3:17] Oh i mean six i i like wendy mcclendon covey.
Tara:
[3:23] Covey is that how you say it she's.
Stephanie:
[3:26] Doing a lot with i think very little i don't think the writing is great and i think the actors are good but she's going like way high and then the show's kind of like down here and there's a mismatch in tone absolutely.
Dave:
[3:44] Seems like she's still in her reno 9-1-1 mode and everybody else is doing.
Stephanie:
[3:48] Superstore or something.
Tara:
[3:50] Yeah yeah yeah.
Sarah:
[3:51] That's yeah it's a good note.
Stephanie:
[3:53] I think she's trying to be wacky and idiosyncratic and it's just like not it's not working for me personally.
Tara:
[4:00] Yeah i get the idea but seeing someone do high karate kicks in the hospital and they're trying to prove that they're fine about a friend dying is like it's it's a lot i'm gonna i'll come to you in a second sarah but dave you already brought it up we watched probably half of american auto uh as we said the justin spitzer follow-up to superstore maybe that went too far in the opposite direction of superstore in terms of how much the characters were struggling was basically set in the executive floor of a an american car company as you could probably guess this felt to me like a good middle path between the shows which is basically what you said so speak more on that.
Dave:
[4:40] It's more relatable but not quite as relatable as people working at Walmart a place that probably everybody has been at one point in their lives or another.
Tara:
[4:49] Yes.
Dave:
[4:50] But the other thing is that this show, for me, feels like it's three years old already. Like, it feels like it was born out of COVID energy. You know, where we were all very aware of what was happening to healthcare workers. And it feels immersed in the sort of the way we were talking about them at that time. And I don't really know if people have the appetite for that right now.
Tara:
[5:15] Well, yeah.
Dave:
[5:15] Right? And that's not the show's fault. But like on the precipice of like that industry, probably having a real rough time, even rougher than it is right now, you know, squeezing comedy out of those lemons is going to be is going to be tough. And even in the couple episodes that have already aired, like, it's not as doctory and hands-on as, like, scrubs. And it's not as, it doesn't paint as much of a dire picture of healthcare as we all know the situation is. And it feels false. The whole thing just feels like a little off to me because of all these competing energies and needing to blunt the edges because it's a sitcom, a network television when it comes to like real industry problems. And the fact that I just said industry is one of the problems, but here we are.
Stephanie:
[6:06] Dave, do you think part of the problem is that they're trying to thread the needle between, oh, healthcare workers are really put upon and like doing a hard job and we should feel sorry for them? Yeah. There's like gross negligence and incompetence, like in the hospital setting from episode one, like admitting nurse misses an obvious pulmonary embolism. I'm not even a nurse and I'm like pain in the leg, pulmonary embolism, like, and the male nurse is inept and can't do anything and knows nothing. I mean, so it's like, are they heroes like working in the trenches or are they all fucking idiots? Like I pick one.
Dave:
[6:41] Well, that's the problem, right? You want to do if the energy is a bunch of goofy characters in a hospital setting, either everybody's got to have a bad time and it's just that sort of place. You know, it's just like the place where people go to have a bad time or die. And that is the tone of the show in a very sort of like faulty towers sort of way. or it's not and it's more of a representative take on it like like scrubs where you win some you lose some but everybody is like more or less competent or growing but not as you say stupid for the reasons of plot.
Tara:
[7:17] Yeah i mean i feel like the opportunity could have been if they had said it like in an urgent care then it could have been more like night court you know what i mean where people are just coming in with like wacky shit happening that is not necessarily life or death but it's still ridiculous like someone has something weird in their butt or they fell on something strange or whatever but anyway to backtrack to the covid question i'll put it to you sarah to answer first this is the second new show this fall that we've watched where doctors processing their covid trauma is part of the story the first being dr odyssey is it is it still too soon, do you feel?
Sarah:
[7:56] It's not that it's too soon. It's that in both cases, I feel like there was a weird tonal problem. Like we were saying earlier, is this supposed to be, are healthcare workers supposed to be heroes, first responding heroes that we thank and bang pots and pans at the same time every night? Or are they the same sort of incompetence that you always see in a workplace sitcom like that part didn't strike me it was that there is this like clinging to the mockumentary workplace sitcom format that it felt immediately dated and like for for that subgenre I think this is very good not great very good but that genre is not for me like I don't care for it I didn't really liked The Office. I didn't really like Superstore. I know I was the only one who was like, I hate these people. I know that's the point. I don't want to hang out with them. It's not so much that subject. It's too soon for that subject. It's that, once again, it's not being incorporated into the larger tone of the show. And the problem there is that the show wants to have all the tones. There were a few times in the premiere where I really felt like we were supposed to be like oh and like i mean every.
Stephanie:
[9:22] Every ending was like that.
Sarah:
[9:24] Yeah like it's a sit yeah it's a sitcom and it's sort of like and allison tolman is really good and almost sells it and gets you there but i mean the show doesn't have the courage of its like scabrous dark humor convictions yeah but it also hasn't earned that like hugging and learning shit that it's also going for. So this is kind of like, it's almost there, but it's doing enough sitcom-y things that I don't like that I think I'm out. Like, I didn't hate it, but it's just not, eh, not quite there.
Stephanie:
[9:56] I had the same note, Sarah, that, like, they haven't earned the sappiness yet. And actually, I mean, I did like The Office, and I did like Parks and Rec, and those shows, when they started to deteriorate, it was because of the creeping sentimentality, creeping spleen, that they let in. And that's what kills kind of, like, I hate when characters learn and grow. I don't want anyone to learn and grow, especially in the pilot. But they're not ready to learn and grow. Let them be idiots or weird. Let them be unlikable and kind of pick a lane, as I said earlier. Yeah.
Tara:
[10:30] I feel like the most similar example currently is Abbott Elementary, which is also about sort of people doing their best in a mockumentary, in a system that everyone sort of acknowledges is like broken and getting further broken by the day. The stakes are so different. like no one is gonna die of ringworm at abbott elementary you know what i mean like yeah it there is there is a tonal issue i i feel like it got better but you know i'm not gonna sit here and defend it too hard everything you guys are saying is very true and i think i was just brought along by good performances like i thought david allen greer was especially good he was my favorite part oh yeah yeah.
Stephanie:
[11:11] Very good he was funny.
Tara:
[11:12] There is an episode further on among the screeners that we got where he and the surgeon get into a fight over the last nutrageous in the vending machine and it is explicitly a nutrageous and I was like hell yeah this is for me but now.
Sarah:
[11:28] That you've watched.
Tara:
[11:29] It I don't have to I.
Sarah:
[11:31] Will nearly go get a nutrageous and be excited.
Tara:
[11:34] Yeah it's exactly what you expect from a network sitcom it's not going to go as far in its critique of what these systems are as like, Orange is the New Black, which also, I think, went off the rails the longer it went on. It is troublesome that we're saying it's already getting off the rails in the first three or two episodes.
Sarah:
[11:54] Yeah.
Tara:
[11:55] You know, this is either going to be your thing or it's or it's not. I will say future guest stars that people won't see in the first two episodes. Guillermo Diaz from Scandal, Aaron Hayes from various shows, including Children's Hospital. Diallo Riddle from Southside, Steven Schneider from Righteous Gemstones and Broad City, Rose Abdu from Hacks, and Nico Santos from Superstore. So it's, you know, they're getting good people to come through. I think it is, for me, entertaining enough. But the critiques that you guys are bringing up, as I said, very accurate and hard to argue with.
Dave:
[12:34] It's time to go around the dial. First stop, Tara.
Tara:
[12:39] Married at First Sight is back. I usually try to hold my comments on this until all the weddings are over, and that happened to coincide with Stephanie being here. Since she is my text friend for this show, she can weigh in as I go through it. I'll say in general, this season is taking place in Chicago. Three proper episodes plus two multi-hour specials that I also watched have aired so far. Across the board, I'll say this season, all of the women are very professionally accomplished and make a lot of money. That is explicitly said. And the guys are all like.
Stephanie:
[13:13] Fine. Wait, wait, wait. Carla?
Tara:
[13:15] Okay, not her. She's about to quit her job to whatever it is. Do something with energy.
Stephanie:
[13:22] Energy healing or something.
Tara:
[13:24] Yes. I assume sound baths are involved. We'll get to her. Other than her, it seems clear that's going to be an issue, the imbalance between the couple's levels of accomplishment. For one in particular, we'll get to it. So I'm going to start with M.M. and Ikechi. He tried out for the Houston season and did not get picked. He just happened to move to Chicago in time to get cast on this season. Highly suspicious.
Stephanie:
[13:51] Red flag.
Tara:
[13:52] Very much.
Stephanie:
[13:53] Giant red flag.
Tara:
[13:55] For sure. This is one of the couples where the woman talks a lot about wanting a leader in the marriage, and it's uncomfortable to me. It also might be a reason they end up staying together, whether they should or not, but they're both very, like, Christian-y.
Stephanie:
[14:09] I don't have strong thoughts on them. She's a nurse practitioner, right? Yes. Like, she's very accomplished.
Tara:
[14:14] Yes.
Stephanie:
[14:14] But she wants, like, and what does he do? It's, like, something not as impressive.
Tara:
[14:17] I think he's a college counselor at a high school.
Stephanie:
[14:20] Okay. And she wants him to be her leader. I'm like, what? I hate that. There's a couple like that every season. And it never works also.
Tara:
[14:31] Well, true.
Stephanie:
[14:32] No. I don't mind her. I am getting, like I said, giant red flag vibes from him. And we have had in past seasons, Tara, as you know, we've had someone else move to be on the show.
Tara:
[14:43] We sure have.
Stephanie:
[14:44] Like that one guy who was living in his friend's mom's basement just so he could be on the show. Yep. And that is like a pathetic and be just not a good not a good sign for how this is going to go.
Tara:
[14:55] No, it certainly did not go well for him.
Stephanie:
[14:57] Yeah. No, no, it didn't.
Tara:
[15:00] Moving on. Camille and Thomas. She seems to be one of the experts favorites. I'm not totally sure why she seems fine. She makes a lot of money doing whatever kind of fake job these people always have. And she also owns a rental property. So she's a landlord. He is in finance. He's got a lot of suits because they keep showing them, but presumably he doesn't make as much as she does because when Pastor Cal did his home visit, he specifically asked Thomas if it would bother him if his wife made more money than he did. And he was like, no, I love it, did not ask her that. He was previously in a nine-year relationship that ended when he cheated on her, which Camille's friends all found out at the wedding and were not thrilled about, so I don't have a good feeling about them.
Stephanie:
[15:40] And he's like in his 40s and unmarried and cheated on his one long-term partner. So... Have fun marrying that dude, you know? I'm also weirded out by he and his brother being, they're two identical. I know they're identical twins, but like you don't have to have the same haircut. Like, you know what I mean? That's a choice.
Tara:
[16:01] Yes, it is. I didn't think of that, but you're right. It is spooky.
Dave:
[16:05] Well, how are you going to get up to twin shenanigans if you don't look exactly the same? One sick, the other one has to cover at work, dating each other's girlfriends. Come on.
Stephanie:
[16:16] Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we'll see if the twin enters into any of this season's drama.
Sarah:
[16:20] Oh, God.
Tara:
[16:21] We will. Next, Madison and Alan. I'm just gonna stop and say, this season there's a Madison and a Michelle, and they both have blonde, beachy waves hair, and they look too much alike, and I get them mixed up all the time. Madison, question mark, hasn't really made that much of an impression on me for that reason. Alan kind of looks like someone, Stephanie said, and you nailed it.
Stephanie:
[16:43] Vladimir Putin. Oh, no.
Tara:
[16:46] He looks like Vladimir Putin. He also...
Sarah:
[16:49] Oh, no.
Tara:
[16:50] He's from, like, he's from Illinois as far as we know, and he has such a weird accent. He's like a heavy in a Scandi drama. Like, I don't know why he talks like that. He, by all accounts, is completely American, has just a really weird speaking voice. Both of them said they wanted to be matched with someone who was close to their family because neither of them is. So, great job, because they weren't. They were matched with each other. In fact, we find out his parents had a decade-plus custody battle over him when he was a kid, and he still seems kind of fucked up about it, like, in his 30s. She seems really into him, though, so they might be okay. I don't know. It's hard to tell. What do you think?
Stephanie:
[17:28] I think she's committed to this at this point because it's been, like, one day.
Tara:
[17:32] Right.
Stephanie:
[17:33] But she basically told her—well, maybe it was her friends who were like, you're not her to sleep.
Tara:
[17:38] Right.
Stephanie:
[17:38] She usually goes for attractive guys, is basically what the friends said to this poor man.
Tara:
[17:43] Yeah.
Stephanie:
[17:44] And then the previews show him having a complete and utter breakdown, so I'm not feeling great about them either.
Tara:
[17:53] Speaking of not feeling great about people, Carla and Juan, he is extremely disciplined and organized. She is a complete space case with the energy and the flowing with the universe and has clearly gotten away with this bullshit all her life because she is gorgeous. The first thing she said to him at the altar was, are you in love? which apparently is a private joke with her family but like he doesn't know that it just makes you look crazy that's bad but then he made her listen while he played the guitar at her so they're both not a prize oh wait.
Stephanie:
[18:22] And sang and sang.
Tara:
[18:24] You're right, Nope.
Stephanie:
[18:26] Too endlessly.
Tara:
[18:28] Mm-hmm. Based on the preview, she is, as I said, about to quit her job without telling him first and expects him to take care of her financially. And he does an interview about it where he says, you can be crazy, but you can't be stupid. Yikes. But I also see his point. My skin crawls every time she talks. She is, and this is really saying something, if not the most annoying person that's ever been on the show in the top five.
Stephanie:
[18:52] Right? Yes.
Tara:
[18:54] Okay.
Stephanie:
[18:55] She's terrible.
Tara:
[18:57] They would also her family all didn't come to the wedding because they're shy, she says. They would be the most doomed if not for David and Michelle. There is very little to say about them because as soon as she finds out he still lives with his parents at age 35. She is clearly ready to bolt, but her friends talk her out of it. As if that wasn't bad enough. And it is. He also has really dumb hair. He is so, so, so physically attracted to her that he is completely incapable of seeing her shut down whenever they are alone together throughout the wedding. Like, as soon as she hears about he lives in the parents' basement, she's like, I'm done. But just the wall goes down and he cannot see it because he thinks she's so hot. Would you say they are the most doomed?
Stephanie:
[19:40] Yeah, either them or, well, they're all kind of doomed. Yeah, probably them. It's just like, okay, even if you have legitimate reasons for living in your parents' basement at age 35 or 36, get a place pre-filming just for appearances' sake. I mean, it looks so bad. And the fact that he doesn't know how bad it looks is a red flag in itself.
Tara:
[20:02] Right? Yep.
Stephanie:
[20:03] I mean, he thinks it's cute that he's like so close with his mom and he's a mama's boy. And I, no, no, no, no, it's not good.
Tara:
[20:11] That was in the intro to him in the ceremony. Like, they thought that was a selling point, his loved ones. It's like, no, it's not.
Stephanie:
[20:21] So no one wants that.
Sarah:
[20:23] No.
Tara:
[20:23] Once again, five bad matches. Bad for them, good for us. Season looks super juicy. I'm sure I will return to it.
Dave:
[20:30] Super juicy.
Tara:
[20:33] Speaking of juicy, I'm just going to quickly recommend. I watched Anatomy of Lies on Peacock, the story about the lie and Grey's Anatomy writer. And I have not watched Grey's Anatomy since Christina did not marry Burke in, I think, season two. But that show is great, even if you've read the Vanity Fair article that it's based on. It's really good. Still real good. So that's one plug. My other is for a piece that I wrote for Cracked about the best hospital-slash-doctor shows, including some you may not have heard of that you can stream right now. So we'll link that in the show notes. It is.
Dave:
[21:14] All right, Stephanie. What have you got?
Stephanie:
[21:17] Oh, I'm here to talk once again about Sister Wives.
Tara:
[21:21] Yeah.
Stephanie:
[21:21] I know none of you guys watch this and probably no one listening to this watches it, but I feel compelled to share about Sister Wives. It is back for season 19. Okay.
Tara:
[21:30] Wow.
Stephanie:
[21:30] And when I tell you that this is one of the most richly storied reality TV franchises, please believe me, because since this show started, we have seen Cody go from three wives to four to three to two to one. And that one's like barely hanging on by a thread. And the remaining wife, well, I'll get to her.
Tara:
[21:54] I thought he was at zero. This is a revelation.
Dave:
[21:56] The weekend's coming up. I only got one wife left.
Stephanie:
[22:00] I mean, we've seen pregnancies, moves, deaths, births, divorces, everything. I mean, multiple divorces at this point. I would challenge you to name another reality show with the breadth of life experience that Sister Wives has. One of my really close friends, she hasn't watched for years. And she's just, like, decided foolishly to jump back in for this season. And her sister and I, who both watch, were like, no. You cannot just jump back in for season 19. you have to go back at least one season possibly two and do the work okay this is one of those shows where you you can't just mosey on in you have to like do some upfront work and it it will pay dividends okay so quick catch up for i know you guys are all dying to know cody's down to one wife as i said and she is the worst um her name's robin she's a total sad sack she's like eeyore.
Stephanie:
[22:57] Her whole thing is she's sad because their plural marriage that's what they their euphemism for polygamous whatever situation broke up she had a fantasy about like sitting on a porch swing with her sister wives and like cuddling grandchildren and whatever but for the last i don't know five to ten years robin has been the beneficiary of all of cody's time attention and money she has more property than all the other wives she he like during covid would only he lived with her and wouldn't see his other children. And that led to a schism in the family over COVID protocols because he was so insane about it. And so she sort of helped contribute to the situation that led to.
Stephanie:
[23:37] To the breakup of the family, but she sees herself as the victim, which is unfortunate. The other wives, Mary, that was the first wife. Cody has basically ghosted her for the last eight years after an unfortunate catfishing scandal. We don't need to get into the details of that. Wow. But that literally happened like eight years ago and Cody's still not over it. And Mary has just sort of like hung around, even though Cody, I don't think has laid a finger on this woman for, you know the better part of a decade but she like shows up to family meals and everyone like feels sorry for her finally this season she's realized like he's a piece of shit i have no dignity left i need to like move outside of flagstaff which is where they live anyway that's mary then we have janelle janelle is my personal favorite she's she's very smart but she's very religious and And she actually believes in whatever wackadoo church they belong to. Right. I mean, it's not even Mormonism. It's like some sect. It's not the Warren Jeffs thing, but it's like adjacent.
Tara:
[24:36] Sure.
Stephanie:
[24:37] So, but Cody is now estranged from all of Janelle's children. He won't back down over anything. And so she's going to take her kid's side. And that's what I respect about Janelle. But yet she won't get divorced from him. They're not legally married, but she won't like spiritually get divorced from him, even though she hates his guts. And the last one is Christine. So Christine left Cody, I guess, either last season or two seasons ago, moved to Utah, and is now remarried. And she's living her best life. She's fine. And then finally, Cody. Cody is the perpetual victim. His children not speaking to him is everyone else's fault, and he thinks he deserves an apology from them. He thinks that because his some of his children are legal adults, they're like on equal footing. So they need to put in as much effort to repair the relationship as he does, which is just total bullshit. And he's just a dickhead. He's always angry. He's mean to his wives. Well, wife. And then I wrote down an actual quote from this last episode. Quote, blame yourself if I don't love you, okay? So that's Cody in a nutshell.
Tara:
[25:46] Wow.
Sarah:
[25:46] He seems fun.
Tara:
[25:48] Oh, my God.
Stephanie:
[25:49] He's awful. And speaking of bad hair, oh, my God.
Tara:
[25:52] Yeah.
Stephanie:
[25:53] Have you guys seen Cody, what he looks like? Google this man. I mean, ugh. So if you're new to the Sister Wives Extended Universe, yes, there is a barrier to entry, but it is fascinating trash. Even now with like all the wives scattered to the winds, it's interesting to see where they're going, how they're making their way in their new Cody-less life or, you know, still shackled to Cody existence. So it's good. I recommend. But yeah, go back a couple of seasons.
Tara:
[26:21] Fantastic overview. Bless you.
Stephanie:
[26:23] Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. And for my plug, I have a couple of things coming out over the next few months in literary journals, like who reads those, but I wanted to share an essay I wrote that actually led to my becoming estranged from several family members. So who am I, Cody? You know, it's in the Cincinnati review. I'm proud of it. One of my aunts like called the journal and tried to get it pulled. Whoa. I'm basically Salman Rushdie at this point.
Dave:
[26:51] Wow.
Stephanie:
[26:52] Jeez. I want to put a content warning on it. Eating disorders, it's not my lightest work, but I think it's important to tell those stories. So I'm going to share it.
Tara:
[27:01] Thank you.
Dave:
[27:04] Sarah D. Bunting, what do you got?
Sarah:
[27:05] Changing the subject to tacky true crime of yesteryear. I am talking about Cruel Doubt. This 1992 miniseries was based on Joe McGuinness's book with the same name about the murder of Leith von Stein and the attempted murder of his wife, Bonnie, by college students who were hired by Bonnie's son, Christopher, in an attempt to get a piece of Leith's recent inheritance so that Christopher could do acid and play Dungeons and Dragons as much as he wanted in the steam tunnels of whatever university he was at. In the miniseries, he is just wearing one of those sweatshirts that only says university on it, as you do. We are not in a golden age of much these days, but old true crime TV movies and miniseries events showing up on YouTube, that we are in a golden age of. Plus, everyone is in cruel doubt.
Sarah:
[28:02] Blythe Danner plays Bonnie von Stein, Gwyneth Paltrow with brown hair as sulky and possibly guilty daughter Angela, Adam Baldwin, Ed Asner, Miguel Ferrer. One of the talentless acting hired killers also played Eric Menendez to equal levels of success in a TV movie about that case that aired a couple years after this. and the late 80s and early 90s were themselves a golden age of multiple properties about the same case based on multiple books about the same case coming out within six weeks of each other for whatever reason. So Cruel Doubt came out just a month after the adaptation of Jerry Bledsoe's Blood Games. I will be buckling down with that one next and comparing them at bestevidence.fyi unless we do the latter on Again With Again With This because Amanda Woodward's father and Brandon Walsh's feckless bookie are both in it.
Sarah:
[29:02] This is not something that you need to watch. I mean, yeah, it's free, but on the basis of quality, it's not a necessity. But it is kind of interesting from a meta standpoint in terms of how so-called major cases were covered in the waning days of the monoculture, how we viewed these movies and miniseries as far as their prestige or value to an actor's CV, that kind of thing. If you would like to have a look, I will be linking it in the show notes. Once again, it is free. And if you would like to read the book on which it's based, which I think one of the movie versions of this features the dad from some kind of wonderful screaming at Chris Pritchard that he's a silly little son of a bitch. And I think about that line delivery constantly and often use it on various pets. But that's in the book as well. and my true crime bookshop exhibit B books is having a pretty big major case sale for the next few weeks that's 20 off any and everything tagged major case which this is and hey dave what does the cart do exhibit.
Dave:
[30:06] B books where the cart does the math.
Sarah:
[30:09] Yeah fucking a my check to dave cleared.
Dave:
[30:16] The penguin just ended its run and uh last episode pretty fucking dark yeah Yeah.
Tara:
[30:23] That was a rough one.
Dave:
[30:24] Lots of bad things happen to bad and good people in the show. And overall, I thought that was a pretty good comic book series. I don't like a lot of them, but I thought The Penguin was a good series from a movie that I enjoyed zero. The Batman hated it. It was terrible. But this one I kind of enjoyed. It was as these things always are. I could find many ways to trim the fat a little bit. perhaps the penguin gets captured two times less during the last four episodes than the 20 times he was recaptured. But overall, pretty good, I thought. So we're doing pretty good with comic book adaptations. Agatha All Along was pretty good. This one kind of felt like it could have been a standalone series and it would have been just fine. And if they do another season, I'll probably tune in again. I enjoyed the ride.
Tara:
[31:14] Mm-hmm. It continues to be the case, at least for the ones that I've watched, that the DC shows are better in the aggregate than the Marvel shows, in my opinion. And this one, the best thing I can say about it is that there were long stretches of time where, and I forgot, it was a comic book. Right. It does the thing where, I mean, I don't know, I assume they shot it in New York or possibly like Philadelphia or something, but they would be in a part that's clearly supposed to be Brooklyn and you're like, well, I don't know where that is. Oh, right. It's nowhere. It's a made up city. It was easy to get lost in the world of the show in a good way. And Kristen Milioti, oh my God.
Dave:
[31:52] So good.
Tara:
[31:52] That performance was absolutely insane. I'm so glad that she, I mean, I've thought that she was great for a long time when she finally got a big scene with Deirdre O'Connell, who plays the Penguin's mother. I was just like, oh, the two of you are like real theater actors. And it shows like seeing you share a scene is, was incredible. I still think it's dumb that they did all this to Colin Farrell instead of just casting an actor who it doesn't take as much makeup to make them look like that. I don't want to say it in a way.
Dave:
[32:25] Okay, but what do you want? Do you want Colin Farrell in makeup or do you want Colin Farrell doing something where he catches a really bad disease? Because there's one of those when you're an actor, actor, you got to do one of them.
Tara:
[32:35] Well, he got nominated for an Oscar for doing neither of those.
Dave:
[32:39] I know what I'm just saying. Eventually, they all got to put on the suit or they got to, you know, get a disease. So I'm just saying might as well just let them have the suit.
Tara:
[32:47] Listen, I just, you know, tens should not play fives and I stand by that. That's just how I feel. I stole that put it on a shirt I stole that from Jessie Klein on Last Culture East as she was saying it about Jessica Biel in Candy and it was true then and it's true now tens should not play fives but that aside he was great and if they want to do more I would watch more for sure yep.
Dave:
[33:09] Alright here's what's coming up on Friday's Extra Extra Hot Great we were talking about Peacock's The Day of the Jackal which follows a dog around town.
Tara:
[33:18] Doing his thing sniffing.
Dave:
[33:20] Garbage peeing on things eating spaghetti with lady dogs or it's about an assassin. It's one of those things. That's available to club members. Go to extrahotgreat.com slash club for more info and to sign up if you're not a member. You'll get that episode and like a bazillion episodes before that. And we have Stephanie Early Green here this week and she is one of our two next milestone goals.
Tara:
[33:45] Mm-hmm.
Dave:
[33:45] If we reach it, you win Stephanie Early Green.
Tara:
[33:49] Yeah. She's going to talk more about shows like Sister Wives, like you just heard, but only for you. And we should add, if you're already in the Patreon, thank you. We love you. And if you're looking for a gift to give someone on your list this upcoming holiday season, they finally at long last added gift subscriptions on Patreon. So you can go to patreon.com slash extrahotgreat slash gift. We will also link this in the show notes.
Dave:
[34:13] Yeah. Took them seven years to build that tech.
Tara:
[34:16] Honest to God. So if you want to if you want to gift someone a year of, you know, extra hot grade, it's not wildly expensive. It's more value, I'll say, than a Starbucks gift card of the same amount. And we also remind you, do not subscribe to Patreon through Apple. They're going to take a huge cut of that shit. So go to Patreon.
Dave:
[34:35] It's a tariff and you pay it.
Tara:
[34:36] That's right.
Dave:
[34:38] Like, it doesn't matter to us where you do it, but we're just saying for your bottom line, don't do it through iOS. Go to your desktop and sign up.
Tara:
[34:46] Yeah, they're going to gouge you. So, yes, do that.
Dave:
[34:49] All right. Come back here next week, EHG Prime. We're talking about Dunst's Prophecy.
Tara:
[34:55] It's not Dunst. No, it's Dunst. Dunst. Dunst. Dunst.
Dave:
[34:58] Dunst.
Stephanie:
[34:59] Dunst.
Dave:
[34:59] Dunst. Dunst. Dunst. Dunst. Dunst. Dunst. Dunst. Dunst.
Dave:
[35:04] the act for that one it is time for the extra hot great canon presenting this week is our guest stephanie stephanie what do you got for us.
Stephanie:
[35:19] Okay i have instant hotel season one episode 11 i first became aware of instant hotel thanks to extra hot great back in 2018 both seasons of this show there are only two, are perfect gems, in my opinion. But the first season is more canonic in that some of these characters continue to haunt me nearly six years after first watching the show. First quick explanation of the premise. People with rental properties in Australia, they're Airbnbs, but we're not allowed to say that, I guess, for legal reasons. So they call them instant hotels, which no one says, but fine. Stay at each other's homes and rate them, often viciously and peddily, on the following criteria. House, quality of sleep, local attractions and value for money. The guests also get judged on how well they treat the home. So there's an element of strategy baked in because you can't be a bad guest or you'll get rated badly and the owners have some.
Stephanie:
[36:12] Way of striking back at the guests. There's also a judge, an icy blonde named Juliet Ashworth, who sweeps in at the end of each episode to dole out her expert opinion and rate the property. Her rating is baked into the guest ratings. The season is split into two halves, and the winners from the first half battle the winners of the second half to take home the grand prize, which is a trip to stay at an instant hotel in California. This show is so fun to watch because, A, you get to travel all over Australia and see a wide variety of places and homes. And B, the producers somehow cast the perfect mix of raging personality disorders and normies to capture this nice blend of cattiness, hubris, and delusion. Also, the stakes could not be lower.
Stephanie:
[36:56] So in episode 10, we finally get to visit the home of socialites, air quotes visible from space, Mikey and Shay. These two have been highly obnoxious all season, ragging on everyone else's instant hotels and acting like their property is the true definition of luxury. They really set themselves up for a fall early on. And when that fall comes, it is very satisfying. So just to set the stage, Mikey and Shay's rental property is, in fact, Mikey's parents' house where he grew up and where he still lives. He's in his 20s, whatever. However, the house is located 25 kilometers away from the Sydney city center in an extremely random suburb called Pennant Hills that the host of the show keeps describing as leafy. The other cast members are already primed to hate on this house because Mikey and Shay have bragged about it so much and have sabotaged everyone else's ratings. And as the others drive in, they're commenting on how the neighborhood looks like a retirement community. It's in the middle of nowhere and so on. Mikey and Shay, meanwhile, make it very easy for us to root against them. That's clip one.
Stephanie:
[38:17] Lights, but we do like the finer things in life. And then they immediately cut to shots of the extremely old lady-ish decor of this house that is not cool at all, not a party house. It looks like someone's kind of like well-to-do, but like not hip parents' house, which it is. I mean, that is what it is. We also learn soon after that, that guests in Shea, Mikey and Shea, are expected to feed the fish, turtle, and cats, multiple, in the house. Let me repeat, there are four cats in this vacation home that you, as the guest who is paying to stay there, must feed and keep alive. And nothing against cats, but like something against cats when I'm on vacation. So, you know, the hits start coming literally as soon as the guests cross the threshold. That's clip two. Oh, wow. It's like multi-level. The first thing that actually hit me was.
Tara:
[39:28] Except... That's a horrible thing to say, though. It smelled a bit like a secondhand shop.
Dave:
[39:34] I never noticed a player piano score watching it. Delightful.
Stephanie:
[39:39] That's great. Yeah, so you can practically smell the algal old person smell wafting through the screen. And apart from the off-putting aroma, the much-hyped welcome packs for the guests are lackluster. The house rules are hilariously demanding. And the guests immediately suspect Mikey and Shay of lowering their prices to try to game the system. And to top it off, the local attractions in Pennant Hills are a koala park and a treetop adventure park, which is fine, but not enough to recommend staying in this random-ass house in the middle of nowhere. So the real fun starts when Juliet Ashworth shows up and absolutely savages every aspect of the house, and that's clip three. Well, this is Mikey and Shay's instant hotel.
Sarah:
[40:24] My first impression is I just walked into an aged care facility. It's a total throwback. Well, it does look after lots of old things. They've actually got a lot of very old artworks.
Stephanie:
[40:46] Like they are someone's home. This is just the opposite. This is very much someone's home. Yeah, and once again, the smell comes up, and that's clip four. The water feature.
Tara:
[40:58] Where do I start? Are those plastic rocks? this sort of strange atmosphere of decrepitude, for want of a better word.
Stephanie:
[41:38] Oh my God. My husband and I now say strange atmosphere of decrepitude to each other like all the time, six years later. And this is only one reason why this episode needs to be in the canon. So anyway, the other guests give the house middling scores. I mean, honestly, they could have been way meaner than they were. And Mikey and Shay handled the criticism about as well as you'd expect. And that's the final clip. And the last comment. Beck and Tristan, once we finally escaped.
Tara:
[42:21] About. They were livid. Livid. Livid. Livid.
Stephanie:
[42:29] Oh my God. But we live for when Juliet Ashworth shows up to deliver her verdict, which is predictably withering. In the end, Mikey and Shay's diabolical plans to sabotage the other hosts fail, and they are not chosen to advance to the final, and the world rejoices. Why is this canon worthy? One, the characters, the accents, the complete lack of self-awareness, the low-stakesness of it all. It's just a nice, meaningless little hour of TV that nonetheless sticks with you. I mean, like I said, I still say air of decrepitude to my husband. Two, it's fun seeing a little slice of Australia, warts and all. I love a show that lets us into some random corner of the world that we might normally not be privy to, like someone's parents' turtle-smelling McMansion in a suburb of Sydney. Three, I love a reality show that effectively manipulates the gap between audience allegiance and participant delusion. And here we get to sit back and revel as Mikey and Shay, two assholes, are brought low. We, the audience, hate these people and want them to fail. And when they do, the schadenfreude is delicious. For these reasons, I hope you will vote this episode of Instant Hotel into the canon.
Tara:
[43:41] Thank you so much, Sarah. Why don't you start us off?
Sarah:
[43:44] I will also add that Mikey and Shay, I mean, Mikey and Shay are immediate eye rollers, as Stephanie's excellent presentation alluded to. But it really does sort of walk this line between, like, you immediately have context for what's going on without having to watch the rest of the half season. You immediately know that you're going to be making the jerk-off motion at Mikey and Shay while you're watching. Who says fucking socialites anymore? They literally say they're not there to make friends. And it's like, well, I guess you succeeded at something.
Sarah:
[44:22] Not eradicating the smell of cat piss was not one of those things. Yeah, I mean, I think this presentation really wrapped up why this was such a pleasurable 50 minutes to watch. Like, it is low stakes, but it's also one of those reality shows that has a premise that lets the audience feel like an expert very quickly. And it has the right mix of personalities to form allegiances really quickly. So the barrier to entry in terms of like getting invested, feeling like, you know, fuck all and directing prayers of petty loathing in the direction of the screen, like super low barrier to entry to enjoyment. So this was delightful. And then the comeuppance arrives. They're trying to scheme. They suck at that, too. But then it's like, what is at stake? A vacation in, I don't know, West Hollywood? I mean, good for whoever won, but it doesn't matter that much. you could sort of hope that Mikey and Shay fall on their faces, but then it's not like a lasting effect either way, whatever happens.
Sarah:
[45:35] Like all the animals involved survived. No one spilled one of those crazy pink shots that they were all doing into the koi pond. It really was this wonderful sort of like, let me direct my tiny ire at these people and have that work out. And then you can go on to the next thing and not feel like you're a bad person. So this was really fun. The arc of this universe bent towards Mikey and Shay looking like idiots. And sometimes that's what you need in these crazy times. Tara.
Tara:
[46:11] Yeah. It's not even West Hollywood. It's Palm Springs. So at least if the people.
Sarah:
[46:16] Oh, God.
Tara:
[46:17] These people were bored in West Pennington. Speaking of old people's mansions.
Sarah:
[46:19] Holy shit.
Tara:
[46:20] Exactly. If you're not into golfing, you're going to probably be bored in Palm Springs, too. But anyway.
Sarah:
[46:26] Hope you want a sunburn.
Tara:
[46:28] Sarah is right. And Stephanie is right in her presentation as well. What you want in a show like this is because the stakes are so low, you want to have someone to root against. And Mikey and Shay are such colossal assholes. Like, they are so over-the-top ridiculous. You have to think, like, they're putting on a display. But you know they're not.
Dave:
[46:53] Well, they felt like a real-life, the assholes from Saturday Night Live.
Stephanie:
[46:57] Yes, totally.
Sarah:
[46:59] They did.
Tara:
[46:59] When they're welcoming the people to the house or whatever, she's in like a sequined thing with epaulets. It's daytime. Like she is dressed like she is leaving straight from this interaction at 2 p.m. to go to the club.
Stephanie:
[47:15] It's daytime in the suburbs.
Tara:
[47:17] Right.
Dave:
[47:17] She's dressed like it's New Year's Eve 1928.
Tara:
[47:21] Yeah.
Dave:
[47:22] And the ball's about to drop. It's crazy.
Tara:
[47:24] Yeah.
Sarah:
[47:25] And the ball dropped on Amy Winehouse and she's got to step in immediately and take over.
Stephanie:
[47:30] Oh my God.
Sarah:
[47:30] It's a lot.
Tara:
[47:31] That's right.
Stephanie:
[47:31] Yeah.
Tara:
[47:32] They go on at so much length about how they used to pay people to feed all of the animals when they weren't in the house. Because clearly his parents like required that one thing of them, of him to live in the house, presumably rent free. And they were like, what if we put this house on Airbnb and charged people $640 Australian dollars to stay here and feed our stupid cats? And by the way, a house that is mostly carpeted wall to wall in like cream carpet. Like they are... I'll give it to them braver than the troops for letting just whatever randos go through this house and risk them spilling on that carpet. I was, like, terrified for it. The water feature, like, it truly can't be overstated how hideous this thing is. And when they start talking about the smell, it's like, yes, that's the sensory experience I've been having just watching this episode. Because having grown up in Canada's Midwest.
Tara:
[48:36] Oftentimes in the winter when everyone was like sick of being cooped up in the house to escape the snow and hating each other, a thing that my family would do sometimes would be like drive to Saskatoon just to stay in a hotel for the weekend and like go on the indoor water slide, which we would do for like eight straight hours. And like every other, every other kid in the hotel was doing the same thing. They would all be walking through like, you know, the little fake grass to get to the water slide or whatever, not having showered before they got in the pool, including me. Sorry, I was a child. So when they started talking about the smell of this indoor water feature, I was like, I know that smell. I've smelled that smell. I've been part of that smell.
Dave:
[49:16] See, for me, the smell, and this is something that you experienced as well, Tara, living in Toronto, which is once in a while Lake Ontario, where a lot of the water comes from in Toronto, has an algae bloom and it gets into the water that you use your washing machine. So then your clothes all smell a little funky, like a little mossy, a little like, I'm sure this water feature smelled.
Tara:
[49:38] Oh, yeah.
Dave:
[49:39] And it's terrible and you can't not smell it. For that to be the first smell you smell coming into a place that you paid good money for is so disheartening. Where the water feature is in the house is like a little reading nook, size-wise. It's not big, but the vase that is, or pot or whatever you call it, that is the main bubbling water feature.
Tara:
[50:13] Sarcophagus, yeah.
Dave:
[50:14] It's giant. It's got to be like five, six feet.
Tara:
[50:16] Yeah.
Dave:
[50:17] And as you say, all covered in moss and algae and whatnot. And then like surrounded by just like randomly placed some real river rocks and then plastic feature rocks all over it. And it just looks so bad.
Tara:
[50:32] Yeah.
Dave:
[50:32] When the judge said this feels like an aged care facility, I'm like, yes. Like my first thought was shitty funeral home vibes. Very close to aged care facility vibes. And it is so correct. What went through their head when they decided to put a basically koi pond in the house?
Stephanie:
[50:53] Inside. Inside.
Dave:
[50:54] Inside.
Sarah:
[50:54] Yeah.
Stephanie:
[50:55] I wouldn't even do that in my backyard because of the moss. Like, why would you put it in your house? No.
Dave:
[50:59] It's crazy.
Tara:
[51:00] No. And so you know that these two are like, they're so arrogant about their house. They think it's so great. And it's so bad. So yes, their comeuppance is absolutely, I mean, it can't be overstated how delicious it is. And they are such dicks when they get told the two. They're like, clearly have rehearsed, they're expecting a bad review, which they get. And then they clearly have rehearsed their response, which is, we gave you one point because all of the animals are still alive. And one point, because you're leaving. And they try to say it in unison and then they don't. And then they're like, we don't care if you like us or not. Hashtag no new friends. And everyone is like, what? Like, however old this episode is. And they make the hashtag.
Dave:
[51:43] Yeah, they don't say hashtag. Yeah, they just, they just rhyme it with the fingers.
Sarah:
[51:48] And they're immediately roasted by all the other couples who are either like, what even was that? Or fuck off. Like, yeah, agreed.
Tara:
[51:57] Including the ones who are old, who are like, we're not doing that anymore. Like, even we in our 50s, no, you two are completely corny. So, yeah, this was absolutely a delightful introduction to this show. I think when you started, you said episode 11. It's episode 10. But, yeah, it's your...
Stephanie:
[52:14] Oh, sorry.
Tara:
[52:15] Everything Sarah said is true. You don't need to have seen... The flashes that we see of everybody else's places are enough for us to know. This is a huge step down. and how cocky they are is just makes it all the more satisfying when they get the very bad review they deserve. Dave.
Dave:
[52:32] Being able to metaphorically punch punchable faces is what turns reality television for me into something worth watching. These people are so hateable. They are such assholes. And the fact that there are four other couples that are all in line with bringing them down is great because we've all been there doing like a group project. And there's like one person who's just coasting and then suddenly everybody else gets fed up and lets them have it. Great moments in your life. You know, everybody, you know, friendships are made through mutual spite. And I feel like these other four couples are going to be on a group chat for a long time. They probably get their group chats probably still going today.
Stephanie:
[53:14] I bet.
Sarah:
[53:15] Oh, yeah.
Dave:
[53:16] I think everybody's covered everything, except I will say, speaking to the show itself, not that it matters to the canon presentation because it's a result-oriented canon presentation, but for the show, you can't allow asymmetrical voting. At the end of the episode, all the guests come in and give their scores. Those are announced, and then the host gives their scores to the guest.
Sarah:
[53:39] Yeah, I know you have to do that.
Dave:
[53:41] They have to be blind to each other, and only when both are submitted, then everybody's powers are given.
Stephanie:
[53:46] But that's how actual Airbnbs work, though.
Dave:
[53:48] Not when I was doing Airbnb. I would never see their results.
Sarah:
[53:52] That's how Lyft works.
Stephanie:
[53:53] Yeah. Ride shares. Airbnb, the host sees your rating before they submit theirs, so they can... screw you over.
Dave:
[54:01] I don't remember that.
Stephanie:
[54:02] Because it's happened to me and Al. Yeah.
Dave:
[54:03] Because we were, we were a host for a couple of years in Hawaii for our guest house. And I don't remember being able to see.
Stephanie:
[54:09] They might've changed it. I stopped using Airbnb after we had a bad experience for that reason.
Dave:
[54:14] Yeah, it's been years since I touched the site at all. But anyways, but you know, like let's try to have an even playing field, I guess, for the show, but who cares? I mean, like the results speak for themselves. I just wanted to see these people like get theirs and they did. And it was great. And the fact that they're all like, this house is the best house and it looked like everybody's grandma's house. Like putting the koi pond aside, that house smells. And then you add the cats and the koi pond. And it's just like, I can smell it. Like I can smell the ammonia. I can smell the algae. I can smell everything. And then like, it looks like shit.
Tara:
[54:47] Yes.
Dave:
[54:48] You know, like the only good thing about that house was the backyard.
Stephanie:
[54:50] Yeah.
Dave:
[54:51] You know, it looked nice and it looked lush and there was a tennis court and a little pool. That was fine. The rest of it, unbelievable. And it's in the middle of a suburb. Like there is nothing to do. The Kuala Park was like, fine, you know, spend a couple hours there and go, but it is not a destination. So I loved everything about this. Oh, one last thing. There is a, you know, performative producer pushed conga line during this. Being in a conga line is one of my biggest fears in life. I just, it fills me with dread. The idea again, sucked into it. All right. Let's put this to the official vote. Sarah D. Bunting, Instant Hotel, yay or nay?
Sarah:
[55:29] Impressive is a big word as julia said but this kind of presentation was that loved it yes canon worthy yes.
Dave:
[55:38] 100 agree me too, that means instant hotel season one episode 10 you are hereby inducted into the extra,
Dave:
[56:05] It is time to discover who is the winner and loser of the week. I have this week's winner. It is Macaulay Culkin. Remember him? Home Alone. He did this with his hands across his face. He's like, oh no, I'm home alone. That guy? He's going to be in season two of Fallout. The incredibly violent, gushy, visceral video game adaptation from Amazon Prime. I don't know who he's playing. Rumors are he's like some sort of crazy scientist dude or something like that, which I guess would track. But I kind of would like to see him be like more of like the guy running around the robot shooting up people and blowing people's heads off. I think that would be great for him personally. But oh, it sounds fun. You know, that that show is just like fun and dumb. And Macaulay Culkin season two. Why not? So congratulations, Macaulay Culkin. Sarah D. Budding, who is our loser of the week?
Sarah:
[56:51] Before I get into that, should we offer Stephanie the chance to rate our cannon vote? Just based on the fact that the guests get to rate afterwards?
Stephanie:
[57:02] I'll give you guys like a seven.
Tara:
[57:04] Oh my God.
Sarah:
[57:05] Okay.
Stephanie:
[57:06] I could have used more effusiveness. Just kidding. You get a 10.
Sarah:
[57:11] Thank you. Did I fail to mention the Yadro figurines? Oh my God.
Tara:
[57:17] And the Wedgewood in the bedroom.
Stephanie:
[57:19] Wait, what about the paintings that were purchased on a cruise ship?
Tara:
[57:23] That too.
Sarah:
[57:24] Oh God.
Tara:
[57:25] That were moldy.
Dave:
[57:26] And the royal purple furniture. Anyways, let's get back to loser of the week.
Sarah:
[57:30] Anyway, speaking of things old people like, our loser is Taylor Sheridan for pissing off the fans of Yellowstone by killing off Kevin Costner's character, Governor What's-His-Nuts, I guess? Is he?
Tara:
[57:46] Oh, John Dutton.
Sarah:
[57:46] With an off-screen death by suicide, which I feel like this drama with Kevin Costner's scheduling or whatever the hell else in season five, part two, or whatever it was, I don't watch the show, but I knew that this was going on. Everybody knows that this was going on, so why kill him off that way? Why not just have him be Chrissy Snow when he's calling from Helena or did you have to do him like that? I guess so. So Taylor Sheridan's a trouble.
Dave:
[58:17] Go further down and he does something like just falls down some stairs. Make it even worse.
Sarah:
[58:22] Right.
Tara:
[58:23] I mean, you know, Charlie Sheen got killed off two and a half men by having a piano fall on him. Like, I think sometimes the creators want to make a point and that's fine, I guess.
Sarah:
[58:32] Yeah. All right. Well, good luck.
Dave:
[58:35] All right. Speaking about making a point and good luck, do you know what time it is?
Sarah:
[58:39] Oh, Cape time.
Dave:
[58:41] Thank you. Welcome back to Game Time. This is the ninth of the season. The scores are Tara with four. A win today will clincher the season victory. Sarah has one. Value guests have three. Today we are playing one season and no movie from Mr. Dan Casino. Damn you, Casino! Who earns himself an extra credit. Topic of his choosing, plus a free item of my choosing from the EHG store at throughmethods.com. Only Dan Casino gets that treat. I mean, he doesn't get to choose. I'd make something just for Dan Casino and I send it to him. After a long run, Dan says, TV shows tend to run out of steam. But what about those shows that never had the chance? The ones that aired one season or less then died and left a beautiful TV corpse. In this game, I'll be asking you about the TV shows that lasted for one season or less. I will give you the year that a one season wonder started and a piece of trivia about it. If you correctly identify a show from that, you get four points. If you don't have it, I can give you a second piece of trivia, after which the correct answer is worth two points. Finally, I can tell you two stars of the shows, but then a correct answer is worth just one point. You can guess after each hint, Sarah D. Bunting.
Sarah:
[1:00:05] Thank you.
Dave:
[1:00:06] All of the shows in the game are memorable, says Dan, although not always because they were actually well done. All of them have been mentioned on Extra Hot Great, although some of them are entirely Dan's fault. Let's throw it at Peggy to see who's going first. We will start with Sarah. All right, Sarah, Stephanie, Tara is our order today. We have 30 questions, one Grossworth Equalizer Challenge Zone. Are we ready to play one season and no movie?
Tara:
[1:00:33] Yes.
Sarah:
[1:00:33] Yes.
Stephanie:
[1:00:34] Yep.
Dave:
[1:00:35] Starting with Sarah D. Bunting. Your one season wonder is from 1994. Your piece of trivia is the much referred to character Tino is never seen on screen. For four points, name that show.
Sarah:
[1:00:48] My so-called life.
Dave:
[1:00:51] Yes, four-point answer, correct. To Stephanie, your first is from 1999. The creators were determined not to end each show with a typical happy ending. One notable exception is the pilot episode, which the creators purposely wrote as a self-contained story in case the show was never picked up for production. Notable one season wonder from 1999.
Stephanie:
[1:01:14] I'm going to need a hint.
Dave:
[1:01:16] All right, your next piece of trivia is Linda Cardellini kept the jacket she wore on the show.
Stephanie:
[1:01:22] Okay, Freaks and Geeks.
Dave:
[1:01:23] That is good for two points. Yes. Tara. Your first show is from 1994. ABC executives suggested East meets West and Walk on the Wild Side for the show's title.
Tara:
[1:01:37] Is this All-American Girl?
Dave:
[1:01:39] Yes. Walk.
Sarah:
[1:01:40] Wow. W-O-K.
Stephanie:
[1:01:42] Thanks, ABC executives.
Dave:
[1:01:45] Subtle.
Tara:
[1:01:46] It's like the fake movie that Peter, the Richard E. Grant character, is in with Eddie Murphy, sweet and sour, in the franchise.
Dave:
[1:01:54] By the way, we watched the rest of them that haven't aired, and I was very satisfied by how it finished.
Tara:
[1:02:00] Very good show.
Dave:
[1:02:01] Yep. Sarah D. Bunting, 1990. In a May 9th, 2022 interview on the National Public Radio Program Here and Now, recording artist Sheryl Crow said that one of her first professional singing jobs ever was a role on this show.
Sarah:
[1:02:18] Cop rock.
Dave:
[1:02:20] Cop rock is good for another four points.
Sarah:
[1:02:23] She said authoritatively. Stephanie. Hey, Adam.
Dave:
[1:02:29] 2014. It is notable that Corporal Derek Hill, Chris Lowell, later finds his true calling in photography, while Chris Lowell is quite a successful fine art photographer himself. One season wonder from 2014.
Stephanie:
[1:02:44] Oh, I have an idea, but I need another hint.
Dave:
[1:02:47] The desktop that was displayed on Sergeant Major Cody's desk was bought by a fan in New York.
Tara:
[1:02:55] I'll say you are right. If you can think of the name of the show.
Stephanie:
[1:02:57] It's like that same creator who did like the Greek show, I feel like. And then it's this one. It's like not Jugheads, but like something like that.
Dave:
[1:03:09] Got one more clue here. It might jog your memory.
Stephanie:
[1:03:12] Okay. Okay.
Dave:
[1:03:13] Two actors, Jeff Stultz and Keith David.
Stephanie:
[1:03:17] Yeah, that didn't help. I can't remember the name.
Dave:
[1:03:20] You can remember everything but the title.
Stephanie:
[1:03:22] Jarheads? Not Jarheads.
Dave:
[1:03:23] No, that's another thing. There's no stimulus today, but anybody know it?
Tara:
[1:03:26] Yeah, that's Enlisted.
Dave:
[1:03:28] Enlisted.
Stephanie:
[1:03:29] Enlisted.
Sarah:
[1:03:29] I can never remember the name of it. I don't know why.
Tara:
[1:03:32] Such a good show.
Sarah:
[1:03:33] Such a good show.
Tara:
[1:03:34] Really didn't get a chance.
Dave:
[1:03:35] Tara.
Tara:
[1:03:36] Yeah.
Dave:
[1:03:37] 2007.
Tara:
[1:03:38] Mm-hmm.
Dave:
[1:03:39] The name monad may have come from monism, a philosophy which states that all things are one. Greek philosophers referred to the monad as the builder and that all things are comprised of monads.
Tara:
[1:03:54] Next.
Dave:
[1:03:55] The surfing sequences are by well-respected surfers Brock Kelly, Dan Malloy, John John Florence, and Herbie Fletcher.
Tara:
[1:04:04] I stand by my, ugh, that's John from Cincinnati.
Dave:
[1:04:06] It is. John from Cincinnati, two points. Sarah, 2011. The show is mockingly referred to a number of times in the TV show Community, where actor Keith David is asked if he was on the show at the end. His response is no.
Sarah:
[1:04:24] Hmm. What was the year again?
Dave:
[1:04:27] 2011.
Sarah:
[1:04:30] I need another hint, please.
Dave:
[1:04:31] Marvel Comics artist John Cassidy contributed a piece of artwork shown during the opening credits.
Sarah:
[1:04:39] Hmm agent carter.
Dave:
[1:04:42] Your two actors are david lyons and keith david.
Sarah:
[1:04:49] Yeah no i got nothing.
Dave:
[1:04:51] Anybody know this one this is the cape oh the cape oh okay Stephanie, your show is from 2018. The plane in the show is a Boeing 737-700.
Stephanie:
[1:05:10] Oh. It's not the, no, it's not the flight attendant, is it? No, because I had another one season.
Dave:
[1:05:17] One episode has the lead meet up with a fellow pilot played by Dermot Mulrooney. It was a long in-joke to confuse the two actors.
Tara:
[1:05:27] Another very funny show.
Stephanie:
[1:05:29] I don't know this one. I'm not doing well.
Dave:
[1:05:33] Okay, last clue. Your actors are Dylan McDermott and Kim Matula.
Stephanie:
[1:05:39] I don't know.
Sarah:
[1:05:41] Can't remember the name of it.
Tara:
[1:05:43] L.A. to Vegas.
Dave:
[1:05:44] L.A. to Vegas.
Sarah:
[1:05:45] Oh, yeah.
Stephanie:
[1:05:46] Never even heard of it.
Dave:
[1:05:47] On a commuter plane. It was pretty funny, actually.
Tara:
[1:05:49] It was very funny.
Dave:
[1:05:50] Tara.
Tara:
[1:05:51] Yeah.
Dave:
[1:05:51] 1992. The last primetime cartoon series to be aired on CBS, only for three episodes. despite its cancellation prior to the Turner buyout in 1991.
Tara:
[1:06:02] Uh, proceed.
Dave:
[1:06:04] The show has a similar concept to Sharky and George 1990, a cult French cartoon.
Tara:
[1:06:10] Is this fucking Fish Police?
Dave:
[1:06:13] It is fucking Fish Police. Two points.
Tara:
[1:06:18] Dan!
Sarah:
[1:06:19] Good for you.
Dave:
[1:06:20] He did warn you.
Stephanie:
[1:06:21] I'm out of my league here.
Tara:
[1:06:22] Yes, he did. He really did.
Sarah:
[1:06:23] All cops are bastards. All.
Dave:
[1:06:29] Sarah, 2005. Show was born out of an attempt to adapt the original book into a movie called Seared, starring Brad Pitt and directed by David Fitcher.
Sarah:
[1:06:43] Hint, please.
Dave:
[1:06:43] The pilot was shot at Maison G in Los Angeles, and then a soundstage was built replicating that restaurant.
Sarah:
[1:06:53] Kitchen Confidential?
Dave:
[1:06:54] Yes.
Tara:
[1:06:55] Yeah.
Dave:
[1:06:56] Bradley Cooper starred in that one. Back to Stephanie, 1996. You know, with apologies to our players here, but I am reading from IMDb Trivia. I don't know if that was made clear in the start. And they're not written so well, so I have to pause sometimes and rewrite them in my head. Fox executives requested that the character of Bobby Stachowski be revised from the lead character's biological mother to the slightly less provocative role as his stepmother.
Stephanie:
[1:07:27] Hmm. I don't know. Hint, please.
Dave:
[1:07:29] The lead character's traumatic upbringing was based on the childhood of a real-life serial killer who had been similarly raised in a box with only television present, as described in the nonfiction novel. Yeah. It should have been a Sarah D. Bunting question.
Stephanie:
[1:07:49] Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I'm going to, I guess, give me the actors. Not that that will help.
Dave:
[1:07:55] Adrian Pastar and Lisa Dar.
Stephanie:
[1:07:59] I don't know. Yeah. Don't know.
Dave:
[1:08:02] Sarah, do you know this one?
Sarah:
[1:08:05] Profit?
Dave:
[1:08:05] Profit. Yes, it is Profit. Tara.
Tara:
[1:08:09] Yeah.
Dave:
[1:08:11] The establishing shot of Andy's workplace, the Duke and Duke building, is lifted from Trading Places, the movie.
Tara:
[1:08:23] Next oh no no no stop i know it.
Dave:
[1:08:25] Andy richter controls yes four point answer oh wow nice all right everybody's last question before our score break sarah 2011, steven spielberg vetoed filming in hawaii for this show because he wanted a different filming location from jurassic park.
Sarah:
[1:08:43] What's the year again.
Dave:
[1:08:44] 2011 what.
Tara:
[1:08:48] The hell was that show called.
Dave:
[1:08:50] With only 10% of Cretaceous-era dinosaurs recorded in the fossil record, the producers decided to supplement the series with plausible fictional species.
Sarah:
[1:09:02] This was called... And it starred fucking Jason Mara, so I don't want another hint.
Dave:
[1:09:10] It was called Billy and the Dinosaurs.
Sarah:
[1:09:12] It's not La Brea. It's the other one. It's Tara. Tara. Tara. Tara. Terra Firma. Terra? That got me. Firma?
Dave:
[1:09:24] Nope. Okay, you got one more to crack at it. Starring Jason O'Mara and Shelley Kahn. And you did have the first word right.
Sarah:
[1:09:36] Incognita?
Dave:
[1:09:38] I'm really close.
Sarah:
[1:09:40] I would give you half a point.
Dave:
[1:09:42] But I know how you guys feel about fractional points.
Stephanie:
[1:09:44] Was it Terra Nova?
Dave:
[1:09:46] Terra Nova, yeah.
Sarah:
[1:09:47] Fuck!
Stephanie:
[1:09:48] I can't believe I knew that one.
Dave:
[1:09:51] Stephanie, 1974. One season wonder from 1974. Actor Richard Keel, before he became best known as the killer Jaws in the James Bond movies, was cast in two consecutive episodes as the monster. In what TV show?
Stephanie:
[1:10:07] I mean, there's no way in hell I'm going to get this, but sure, give me another hint.
Dave:
[1:10:12] Chris Carter cited the series as a major inspiration for The X-Files. don't know another hint starring darren mcgavin and simon oakland no clue no clue all right what is that show anybody it's.
Tara:
[1:10:29] Cold jack the night stalker.
Dave:
[1:10:30] Cold jack the night stalker yes all right this will take us into our score break it is for tara it is 2012 one of the stars won a 1976 tony award for best actress in a featured role in a musical for the originating role of Sheila in a chorus line?
Tara:
[1:10:49] Bunheads.
Dave:
[1:10:50] Bunheads is good for four points. And that is our halfway mark. Let's get them scores.
Tara:
[1:10:56] I would have thought Bunheads was earlier than that. I have 16. Sarah has 10. Stephanie has two.
Dave:
[1:11:03] All right, Stephanie, that means you get to go into Grosworth Equalizer Challenge Zone.
Sarah:
[1:11:08] Woo!
Dave:
[1:11:15] All right, Stephanie, give me a number between one and eight, and I will pick the box of that number.
Stephanie:
[1:11:20] Five.
Dave:
[1:11:21] I think you're in good luck. You've picked the 90s edition Trivial Pursuit box.
Tara:
[1:11:26] Okay, good.
Stephanie:
[1:11:26] I was alive then, so that helps.
Tara:
[1:11:28] I was going to say, if it's one of the real antique ones, you've got to give her another pick. She's so young.
Stephanie:
[1:11:33] No, it's okay. I'm so young.
Dave:
[1:11:37] Four points if you get three out of the six questions correct. But if you manage to do six for six, you will get eight points. So there's a lot on the line.
Stephanie:
[1:11:44] Ta-da! Okay.
Sarah:
[1:11:46] Ta-da!
Dave:
[1:11:47] This question is from 1996. What toy was hung outside the boys' digs in Friends as a message board? What toy was used as a message board on Friends?
Stephanie:
[1:12:00] I want to say an Etch-A-Sketch.
Dave:
[1:12:02] I'm going to give that to you. It's a magnet doodle, but this is basically the same thing.
Sarah:
[1:12:06] Same thing.
Stephanie:
[1:12:08] Thank you.
Dave:
[1:12:08] One point.
Stephanie:
[1:12:09] It's generous.
Dave:
[1:12:10] Thank you. Thank you for acknowledging my generosity. What sitcom featured a Power Mad TV host who boasted he once put a barbecue grill into geosynchronous orbit? 1991. Power Mad TV host. Barbecue grill. That's a good hit. Don't get caught up in the geosynchronous orbit bit. It's a sitcom from 1991. Power Mad TV host is in the show.
Stephanie:
[1:12:38] I'm going to guess Home Improvement.
Dave:
[1:12:40] You are correct.
Tara:
[1:12:41] Nice.
Stephanie:
[1:12:43] He went to my high school.
Tara:
[1:12:44] Oh, shit.
Stephanie:
[1:12:45] Tim Allen. He's from Birmingham.
Dave:
[1:12:47] Oh, did you buy Coke off him?
Stephanie:
[1:12:50] He was a bit older than me, like 30 years, but yes.
Dave:
[1:12:54] 1991 again, Stephanie. What animated sitcom clown is the son of a very disappointed rabbi, Hyman Krestofsky?
Stephanie:
[1:13:03] Krusty the Clown.
Dave:
[1:13:04] You are correct. All right, you've got your four points. The next three, we'll double it. 1990. 90, who tools around in a phone booth larger on the inside than it is on the outside?
Stephanie:
[1:13:17] Oh, Doctor Who?
Dave:
[1:13:19] Doctor Who. What is Doctor Who's actual name?
Stephanie:
[1:13:22] I've never seen it.
Dave:
[1:13:24] No, we don't know, but I want you to make up one.
Stephanie:
[1:13:26] Oh, okay.
Dave:
[1:13:28] What do you think his name is? So this is 1990. I think this is Christopher Eccleson.
Stephanie:
[1:13:36] Chad Epworth.
Tara:
[1:13:37] Pretty good.
Dave:
[1:13:38] I'm going to give you a day point for that one.
Tara:
[1:13:40] Nice.
Dave:
[1:13:41] Okay.
Tara:
[1:13:41] I was thinking Clive or Nigel, but I like that answer.
Sarah:
[1:13:45] Clive. Perfect.
Dave:
[1:13:46] Okay. 1999. What four-year-old cable channel proudly declared itself the official network of every millennium? What four-year-old cable channel proudly declared itself the official network of every millennium? What cable network deals with every millennium? Not only this millennium, but other millenniums behind us.
Stephanie:
[1:14:17] I'm going to say the History Channel.
Dave:
[1:14:21] All right.
Sarah:
[1:14:21] Nice.
Tara:
[1:14:22] One more.
Stephanie:
[1:14:23] Thank you for leading me by the hand into that one, David.
Tara:
[1:14:27] Every time he said it, I was more convinced it was the Sci-Fi Network. So good job.
Stephanie:
[1:14:31] I know. Well, that was my first thought.
Sarah:
[1:14:33] Oh, sci-fi.
Dave:
[1:14:34] All right. It all comes down to this to double it up.
Stephanie:
[1:14:37] Okay.
Dave:
[1:14:38] Oh, boy. Here we go. 1994. What club do the Beverly Hills 90210 gang open next to the Peach Pit Diner?
Stephanie:
[1:14:50] This is so bad. I never have seen Beverly Hills 90210.
Dave:
[1:14:54] It's going to make it hard.
Stephanie:
[1:14:55] I know. That's crazy.
Dave:
[1:14:57] Give her one hint. Wait, I'll give you the hint.
Stephanie:
[1:15:01] No, it's okay.
Dave:
[1:15:01] I'm going to give you a hint. The structure is the name of a store you just heard, plus some software that features flying toasters. Put them together.
Sarah:
[1:15:14] That's a good hint. She might still be too young for that.
Dave:
[1:15:16] Yeah, she might be too young. The Peach Pit Diner was your...
Stephanie:
[1:15:22] The Apple Corps? I don't know.
Dave:
[1:15:25] We're looking for Peach Pit After Dark. After Dark is a screensaver in which flying toasters fly around on your screen. You came really close, but you still got four points.
Tara:
[1:15:35] Oh my God, so good.
Stephanie:
[1:15:36] That was the one show I was never allowed to watch.
Tara:
[1:15:38] Well, they were right. Yeah, they absolutely were.
Sarah:
[1:15:42] You retained IQ points that we do not have, having watched it many times.
Tara:
[1:15:48] Stephanie now has six points. Sarah has 10. I have 16.
Dave:
[1:15:52] All right, nicely done. Let's get back to it. Sarah debunting 1996. jimmy fallon anna gastire and tracy morgan addition to be regulars on the show one season wonder, all right fridays, After the opening sketch, which featured Bill Clinton breastfeeding animals, six million viewers changed the channel and the ratings never recovered.
Sarah:
[1:16:26] Mad TV?
Dave:
[1:16:29] Starring Dana Carvey and Steve Carell.
Sarah:
[1:16:37] Men behaving badly? I don't remember the name of this.
Dave:
[1:16:41] The sketch show after the opening sketch. That's the Dana Carvey show.
Sarah:
[1:16:46] Oh, yeah. I understood it was a sketch show. I just had blocked everything else about it out of my mind.
Dave:
[1:16:53] Stephanie, 1996 again. Paul Haggis said about this show, I wanted to do a TV show that said, I'm going to show you the good guy. I'm going to show you the bad guy. I'm going to make you hate the bad guy and love the good guy.
Stephanie:
[1:17:07] What year?
Dave:
[1:17:08] 96 again. This is question 17, by the way.
Tara:
[1:17:12] Spread Eagle.
Stephanie:
[1:17:15] I don't know. I need a hint.
Dave:
[1:17:16] Paul Haggis said that the film Prince of the City from 81 was one of his main influences for this show.
Stephanie:
[1:17:25] Another hint, please.
Dave:
[1:17:27] Starring Ken Olin and Joey Pants.
Stephanie:
[1:17:31] I don't know.
Dave:
[1:17:32] No. I don't know. Anybody?
Tara:
[1:17:35] What? Wise guy?
Dave:
[1:17:36] No.
Tara:
[1:17:37] No.
Dave:
[1:17:38] Easy Streets.
Tara:
[1:17:39] Oh, right.
Sarah:
[1:17:40] Oh, right. That thing.
Dave:
[1:17:42] Tara, 2007. Aside from the pilot, the episode titles spoof the titles of well-known mystery novels and movies.
Tara:
[1:17:52] Oh, I thought I had it, but I don't. Hint, please.
Dave:
[1:17:56] All right. This is a really good hint.
Tara:
[1:17:58] Okay.
Dave:
[1:17:59] The only short-lived sitcom starring Andy Richter to air on NBC.
Tara:
[1:18:04] Andy Barker, P.I.
Dave:
[1:18:05] Andy Barker, PI, is good for two points. This is Question. It is for Sarah. It is from 2001. The character named Eves Adele Harlow is an anagram for Lee Harvey Oswald, the supposed gunman in the Kennedy assassination.
Sarah:
[1:18:28] Lone Gunman.
Dave:
[1:18:29] Lone Gunman, four points.
Tara:
[1:18:30] Nice.
Dave:
[1:18:32] Stephanie, 2010.
Stephanie:
[1:18:34] Okay.
Dave:
[1:18:35] It is based on a movie script set in California that series creator Matt Nix wrote 10 years earlier. Don't know. Next clue.
Stephanie:
[1:18:45] Yep.
Dave:
[1:18:46] The lead previously worked with Diana Maria Riva on eight episodes apiece of The West Wing and Studio 60 on The Sunset Strip. And with his co-star's father in Philadelphia.
Stephanie:
[1:19:04] Um, I don't know.
Dave:
[1:19:07] Starring Bradley Whitford and Colin Hanks.
Stephanie:
[1:19:11] I don't know. I'm going to say like Golden State.
Dave:
[1:19:16] Anybody know this one?
Tara:
[1:19:17] It's either the good guys or the nice guys. And I always mix them up.
Dave:
[1:19:20] The good guys.
Tara:
[1:19:21] The good guys.
Dave:
[1:19:23] Okay, Tara.
Tara:
[1:19:24] Yeah.
Dave:
[1:19:26] 1967.
Tara:
[1:19:27] Great.
Dave:
[1:19:28] Filmed in the North Wales resort of Port Marion over the course of a year.
Tara:
[1:19:34] The Prisoner.
Dave:
[1:19:35] The Prisoner is correct. Sarah, your show is from 2013. Creator J.H. Wyman claimed that he deliberately wanted to create a hopeful interpretation of the future contrasted with the more dystopian and bleak versions of Isaac Asimov and Philip K. Dick.
Sarah:
[1:19:55] Kent.
Dave:
[1:19:57] J.J. Abrams personally recommended Carl Urban for the role of Kennex from working with him on the Star Trek series of movies.
Tara:
[1:20:06] What's it called?
Sarah:
[1:20:09] I think I've heard of it. Humans? Humans? Almost human?
Dave:
[1:20:18] Okay, we'll give you one point for that. Carl Urban and Michael Ealy. That was a journey. All right, Stephanie. The main character's license plate is 197 DMG2 for 1972 and the initials of the star of the original version of the series. It is a show that's already been in this game.
Stephanie:
[1:20:47] What year?
Dave:
[1:20:49] 2005. As a remake in 2005 of a show from 1972. Both one season wonders.
Stephanie:
[1:20:58] Was it the one that I got? Or the question you guys gave me that I didn't get?
Dave:
[1:21:02] It's one that you got. This is how Dan does things.
Stephanie:
[1:21:05] And I didn't know it then. And it was something like Night Stalker.
Dave:
[1:21:09] That's exactly the name of the reboot. The original was called Coltac, the Night Stalker. This one is Night Stalker with Stuart Townsend.
Sarah:
[1:21:17] I remember who fucking recapped that for Television Without Pity. Do I know where my keys are? No. Can I remember Enlisted? No.
Dave:
[1:21:25] Tara, 2001. The show's characters were based on the actual actors and actresses playing them, and the series pilot wasn't written until all the parts were cast. The pilot episode was largely improvised, with the actors and actresses making up most of their own dialogue. That's what improvise means.
Tara:
[1:21:43] Uh-huh. Okay, well, let's not curb your enthusiasm, because that lasted more than one season. Next, please.
Dave:
[1:21:51] The show marked the first time Seth Rogen, Judd Apatow and Adam Sandler worked together, although only for one episode.
Tara:
[1:21:58] Undeclared.
Dave:
[1:21:59] Undeclared is correct for two points. Sarah D. Bunting, 1965. David's mother date of death was August 23rd, 1949. Later episodes state she had died 10 years prior, but it would have been 15 years if that was so. Little mom death date confusion in the show is what we're getting at.
Tara:
[1:22:20] A David from 1965.
Dave:
[1:22:24] Next one?
Sarah:
[1:22:26] Yeah, she said hint. Yeah.
Dave:
[1:22:27] The featured car was created by George Barris, who also modified the experimental 50s Lincoln Futura into the Batmobile. The car from this show was built from a 1927 Ford Model T touring car with a 327 Chevy V8 engine and automatic transmission. That's a lot of information about cars for you.
Tara:
[1:22:47] As a gearhead, this will certainly unlock everything for Sarah.
Sarah:
[1:22:52] Yeah.
Dave:
[1:22:52] All right, the featured car created by the guy who also did the Batmobile. The car in the show was a 1927 Ford Model T with a beefy engine in it.
Sarah:
[1:23:03] My mother the car.
Dave:
[1:23:04] My mother the car, yes.
Sarah:
[1:23:06] Ew, really?
Dave:
[1:23:07] Yeah, really.
Sarah:
[1:23:09] Oh my God.
Dave:
[1:23:11] All right, to Stephanie. 2010. One of the posters on the wall in Miles' office is of The Invisibles, a comic book which dealt with secret organizations and conspiracies.
Stephanie:
[1:23:27] I don't know.
Dave:
[1:23:28] The series takes its name from the ancient river famously crossed by Julius Caesar in 49 BC.
Stephanie:
[1:23:35] Rubicon?
Dave:
[1:23:36] Rubicon.
Tara:
[1:23:37] Thanks, history.
Dave:
[1:23:39] Thanks, previous millenniums.
Stephanie:
[1:23:40] Right? I would not have gotten that.
Dave:
[1:23:42] That was good for two points. Tara.
Tara:
[1:23:45] Yep.
Dave:
[1:23:46] 1999.
Tara:
[1:23:47] Mm-hmm.
Dave:
[1:23:48] The original plan was to do a season that showed the making of Beverly Hills Gun Club and then actually show the finished movie on Fox.
Tara:
[1:23:58] Oh is this action.
Dave:
[1:24:02] It is action yes wow nice pull typo here from dan starring joy moore sure all right everybody's got one question left so let's get the scores please okay.
Tara:
[1:24:16] Stephanie has 12 Sarah has 17 I have 28.
Dave:
[1:24:23] Alright So Your show, One Hit Wonder from 2015. Joel, Lizzie's boyfriend, is played by John Owen Lowe, who is Rob Lowe's son.
Tara:
[1:24:37] May reasonably assume this is a Rob Lowe vehicle Perhaps Which one?
Dave:
[1:24:43] It's.
Sarah:
[1:24:44] Not the lion's den alas um the fuck was the name of that thing the grinder.
Dave:
[1:24:48] The grinder yes four points wow good, stephanie the year before this show debuted michael raymond james and rachel minor guest starred together on an episode of the tv show life that episode was called canyon flowers.
Stephanie:
[1:25:05] I'm gonna need another hint.
Dave:
[1:25:07] Another hint yeah the title refers to a large group of purebred dog breeds, all bred to chase down various kinds of vermin.
Stephanie:
[1:25:16] Um, I want to say like a rat hound. That doesn't sound right.
Dave:
[1:25:25] Rat something is definitely in this group.
Stephanie:
[1:25:27] Rat terrier, rat.
Dave:
[1:25:29] I'm going to give you that terriers. Yeah. You said part of it. We'll give you two points for that. No. Yeah.
Stephanie:
[1:25:35] Thank you for doing like special needs scoring for me. Cause this is points.
Dave:
[1:25:39] You're welcome.
Tara:
[1:25:41] Tara. Yeah.
Dave:
[1:25:42] 1995. The tune that plays in the background after the opening credits by Dweezil Zappa is an alternate version of the instrumental track Groove Homes by the Beastie Boys.
Tara:
[1:25:54] Next.
Dave:
[1:25:55] The show won an Emmy Award for Outstanding Writing in a Variety or Musical Program after a hit had been canceled.
Tara:
[1:26:04] Is this, this feels like it's 95 is too late, but I'm going to say it anyway. Is this the Ben Stiller show?
Dave:
[1:26:10] Yes, two point answer. It was the Ben Stiller Show. That's regulation. I want to hear the scores.
Tara:
[1:26:17] Okay.
Sarah:
[1:26:18] Yes, it was.
Tara:
[1:26:19] Stephanie finished with 14. Sarah D. Bunting, 21. I had 30.
Dave:
[1:26:24] Okay. So you probably won. Before we get into all the rigmarole of all that, let's play the tiebreaker in which I will read you trivia until somebody gets the show right. So if you think you know it, shout it out. Shout out as much as you want. Who cares? Winner will get two steel meals for use in the next season. We're resetting steel meals. so this is pretty good at the end of the show. Here we go. This one season wonder, no year here for you, was based on the graphic novel series written by Greg Rucka and Matthew Southworth. The lead character's Mustang has a tape stuck in the player as did Marshall Erickson's beloved Fierro in How I Met Your Mother. In the ending credits is a disclaimer the Portland Police Bureau does not sponsor, endorse, or approve this series. The main character suffers from PTSD following her five combat tours in Afghanistan. It is Stumptown.
Sarah:
[1:27:27] Oh, yeah. Couldn't remember the name of that either.
Dave:
[1:27:30] All right, Tara, you get two steel mills for use next season. And with that, Tara wins this season. All right, Sarah, take it. No, she's not. Sarah has no willingness to sing Tara's victory song. And I can't find the button to fade out. There we go. And that Tara won.
Sarah:
[1:28:07] She shouldn't have to put up with that unless she lost.
Dave:
[1:28:10] All right, guys, that is it for another episode of Extra Hot Great. We gave our diagnosis for the hospital sitcom St. Dennis Medical before going around the dial with stops at Married at First Sight, Sister Wives, Cruel Doubt, and The Penguin. We all enjoyed our stay at Stephanie's Instant Hotel Canada presentation. Then refreshed, we crowned Winners and Losers of the Week, and Tara was a winner of this week's Game Time from Dan. Next up, we're talking about the peacock miniseries, The Day of the Jackal, on Friday's exclusive club episode of Extra, Extra Hot Great. Remember. We're listening. I am David T. Cole, and on behalf of Tara Ariano.
Tara:
[1:28:55] If someone kills one of my fish, negative points.
Dave:
[1:28:59] Sarah D. Bunting.
Sarah:
[1:29:01] Looking after cats and paying for the privilege? What crazy hell is this?
Dave:
[1:29:07] And Stephanie Early Green.
Stephanie:
[1:29:09] Hashtag no new friends.
Dave:
[1:29:11] Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time right here on Extra Hot Great.