Lickity-Split Trip To Nightsville

Clip 00:00 Well, they seem like a cherry group. What's going on? It's okay. Dave 00:13 This is the Extra Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode four hundred and fifteen for the June 20th, 2026 weekend. I am not your grandma, David T. Cole, and I'm here with Night Without Incident, Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 00:32 Way to jinx it, Dave. Dave 00:33 And chess grandpa Tara Ariano. Tara 00:35 I don't want to go to the basement Sarah 00:48 Hello listeners, welcome back to Extra Extra Hot Great for another weekend. This podcast isn't possible without your support, and we are so grateful that your RV broke down on our Patreon. Thank you. Your support does not just get you a whole extra show, though, it lets you dictate some of the content on that show via the forcening pool. Please head to the club page at extrahotgreat.com for more information on how to submit episodes, TV movies, and other televised product. Good or bad, you can make us watch stuff, you can submit as many possibilities as you want. We are fascinated by your beautiful brains. In this month's foresighting topic, we are hopefully fascinated by From From Season 1, Episode 1, Long Day's Journey into Night. This program was created by John Griffin, whose IMDB page is a teen adventure movie set on the moon, a Twilight Zone reboot episode, and this. From is a sci-fi horror show that premiered February 20th, 2022 on Epix, now MGM+. These streamers both do exist, I swear. Per the show's Wikipedia page, it is, quote, set in a nightmarish town in the United States that traps those who enter The unwilling residents strive to remain alive while plagued by terrifying nocturnal creatures from the surrounding forest as they search for secrets hidden within the town and beyond Dave 02:18 So Los Angeles. Sarah 02:23 The series centers on Boyd Stevens, Harold Perrineau, the self-appointed sheriff and de facto mayor, and the Matthews family, new arrivals who discover they are trapped. The town's residents must work together to stay alive and find a way to escape. This submission is credited to our dear listeners Aidan and Rynsey. It's sort of unclear if y'all went on this Together or just agreed and overlapped, but one of them wrote, It is truly excellent and a show that I am pretty sure has flown under y'all's radars since it is not the type of thing you would typically watch. I did consider an episode of This for Our Sister podcast Again With Again With This because From also stars Dawson's Creek's Ion Bailey as Jim Matthews. But before we get into the details, let's do the chan check-in. Tara, should listeners watch from Dave Tara 03:13 Yeah. Dave 03:16 I'm gonna say sure, especially if you are in need of some lost energy back in your life. Tara 03:22 Mm. See, I wasn't getting lost, I was getting under the dome. Dave 03:26 Well, it is mitigated, for sure. Sarah 03:27 Oh, Tara 03:29 Mm-hmm. Yep. Sarah 03:30 Yeah. I was intrigued enough that I wanted to keep going, but I do have some concerns. Let's get into them and let's start with the kidziness. Of it all, the aforementioned Matthews family also includes Catalina Sandino Moreno as Tabitha Matthews Salty Teen Daughter Julie, played by Hannah Sheremy, and first grader and a question Mark, Ethan, Simon Webster Not shown, of course, is a third child, Thomas, whom we're meant to infer died prior to the events of the series, slash, inspired this family RV adventure nobody seems to want to be on. Hat tip to Young Webster for this credibly grating line delivery, clip two. Clip 04:10 Mom, do we kill Norman? Julie? What? I'm telling him a story. Mom, Julie killed Norman Sarah 04:21 But just because I can relate to the case, I'm not sure if you're not sure if you're not sure if you're not sure if you're not sure. for seasons on end and spoiler he appears to be in every episode that is here thus far. Dave, did you share that reservation about the foregrounding of a small child in a horror television program? Dave 04:38 Surity bunting, I always agree with you when it comes to less children on TV, please. And not only less little children on TV, I could go all the way up to the Sheriff's Son as characters I could do without on this show. the estranged brooding teenager into his twenties character is something I never enjoy. Sarah 04:55 And I'm not sure what I'm saying. Dave 05:00 It is something that writers have just gravitated to. It's like easy, easy drama to build up and it's Sarah 05:06 Mm-hmm. Dave 05:06 you know, it's just there and there's something about the writing here and I think the title of the episode, Long Day's Journey Tonight, I get to see the guy at his I'm gonna say his typewriter. Long day's Journey Tonight. Sarah 05:17 Yeah Dave 05:19 Delicious. There's a lot here that is ticking off a lot of genre tropes. Sarah 05:24 Mm-hmm. Dave 05:26 The one thing I could take away, it would definitely be too many kids, please eliminate three. Sarah 05:32 Please eliminate all, Tara. Do you agree? Tara 05:35 Yeah, of course. He was so annoying from the jump when he later, I'm sure you'll get to it, has a a medical emergency. It was like, oh nice. They're getting rid of this one too, but apparently not. Sarah 05:44 Yeah. No Dave 05:47 And we had such high hopes because right in the cold open, we'd lose one kid right away. Tara 05:52 Yeah. Dave 05:52 Dumb kid And you're like, Yeah, you know, dumb kids, they deserve what they get. And it's bit bam, that kid got it. Tara 05:59 Yeah, yeah Dave 05:59 And I was thinking, Oh, okay, it's that kind of show where absolutely nobody is safe and there's no plot armor around some people, but that appears not to be the case. Sarah 06:09 Yeah, well, I I guess we'll see. I mean, this was not my only reservation, the presence of Parano heading up a puzzle box episode, if not entire show. Does have that lost reminder of quality. The perils of not having a plan as a show. I was Pretty impressed with the premiere's dispatch and getting to some gnarly outcomes when Dumb Kid opened a window to the Capital E enemy and got herself and her mom basically partially digested. Jack the Ripper style But the first episode stays cagey about a lot of the details. Why do some electrical devices work, but not all of them? What exactly the night creatures are or can do? Did either of you feel good about the pacing of the world building? Bad? Indifferent? Thought they should have gotten to the possibly vampire factory sooner, Tara? Tara 07:04 I thought it was paced okay, although it did end on what felt like part one of a two-parter We get to the night that is promised in the title, but then it sort of stops like right as the night is beginning. Dave 07:18 Uh, it's a long day's journey into Night, Tara. Tara 07:21 You're right. Dave 07:21 It's not a lady split trip to Nightsville. Tara 07:24 You're right, you're right. Sarah 07:25 Yeah. Lickety split trip to Nightsville. If there is an episode later in the show's run that's called that Oh my gosh. Dave 07:34 We can make it our title for this uh episode. Tara 07:37 Yeah. Sarah 07:37 Mm-hmm. That's great. Tara 07:38 I felt like I was getting the picture of what was happening uh at at the right pace. You know, it was unfolding in a way that made logical sense with each sort of signpost and you know, opening with a death is smart because it shows what happens w when that occurs and how it's mourned and how expected it is and all of that business. But then, you know, you also get the glimpses at these sort of uh at what I was calling in my notes the enchanted rocks, these like carved up talismans that people have yet like in the thresholds to keep away the demons or whatever. Sarah 08:10 Mm-hmm. Dave 08:12 The talismans were my first thing. It's like, uh I don't think I'm gonna watch the show continuing. Sarah 08:16 Yeah. Dave 08:16 It was the talismans, so it's like, uh Tara 08:16 Yeah Sarah 08:17 It's like Dear Craft Fair Talismans do better. Dave 08:21 But it's just like I understand this something supernatural is happening, but something about talismans sort of invokes a get out of jail free card for me when it comes to writing. Sarah 08:22 Yeah Dave 08:31 And I probably you know what I mean? Tara 08:32 Yeah Dave 08:33 And so it's like, mmm, not the talismans Tara 08:36 Right. But the other problem is that the more you learn about the town, the more questions you have. Sarah 08:36 Yeah, I'm not sure. Tara 08:41 And this was where the under-the-dome-iness came in for me. 'Cause it's like, okay, if no one can get out of town, because that's that's the deal, when you when you arrive there it's like, well, you never can leave. You can get on a road, but it's just gonna take you in a circle. Where do they get their stuff from? Like, where are they getting medical supplies? Sarah 08:59 Yeah. Tara 09:00 Like even if you say, Okay, we you know, that one ambulance came through that time, it's like, okay, well, that's not an inexhaustible supply of Stuff that you need. How are you running a diner? Also an issue in Under the Dome when it's like, where are you getting groceries? Like even if you show one guy milking the cows or whatever he's doing or you know, on his way to do it before his Sarah 09:18 Yeah. Tara 09:23 spooky sister interrupts him or whatever, it's like there's there's a limited amount of what you need. So where are the groceries coming from? And then it's like, don't tell me, because I don't really care, I guess. Dave 09:32 Obviously growing their own food. We see a little bit of that, which is a f but they're not growing their own coffee beans. Tara 09:35 To an extent, yeah. No Dave 09:39 And they are just going nuts with the coffee at the diner, so I don't know whether that's some sort of like homegrown coffee where it's like it's made out of walnuts. Tara 09:46 Mm-hmm. Dave 09:47 But that was the one that struck me. It's like, where's the coffee coming from? Not the morphine and everything, because I'm gonna guess they use that extremely judiciously. Tara 09:55 Yes. Dave 09:56 But for some reason it was like, coffee! Sarah 09:56 Mm-hmm Dave 09:58 What the Fuck? Table flip. Tara 10:01 Yeah. Sarah 10:01 Well then why do they have to throw down a homemade spike strip to drag the RV in? Like if they can't get out because the road is just in some sort of tesseract? Tara 10:13 Yeah. Dave 10:13 Hmm. Sarah 10:13 Just wait for him to run out of gas. Dave 10:15 Though they said they don't want crazed people that have no fucking idea what's going on barreling through town running people over that actually address that in dialogue. Tara 10:24 But I assume that's why we see the car Like just hanging out in the motel pool. It's like, well, this was what happened an an earlier time when someone was on the loop road and went crazy. Dave 10:32 Yep. And wanted to go for a dip. Sarah 10:35 I I guess, but also why hasn't that been pulled out and chopped for parts? Like this was sort of my issue with it. I am Curious, and I do actually know a couple of people who watch this show and are like, MGM+, you've heard of it, right? I was like, well, yes, they have a lot of true crime, but that's like literally the only reason. I've heard of it, but it did bring a lot of other post-apocalyptic projects to mind. Tara 10:53 Mm-hmm. Paradise. Sarah 10:59 Yeah, The Walking Dead, The Village, The Last of Us, Yellow Jackets to an extent. Tara 11:05 Sure Sarah 11:06 But are these comps of value add to the from experience? Or do you think from suffers from them? I mean, if you're comparing it to Under the Dome, I think I know the answer to that from Tara, Dave. Dave 11:18 Yeah. Tara 11:18 Well, yeah Dave 11:20 Well, we're at the point now with these sort of post-apocalyptic zombie stories where we're just like doing the thing where we throw all the parameters And conceits of a show like that on the floor, and you just sort of like pick and choose the five things you want your show to be, and that's what makes it unique. Sarah 11:33 Mm, yes Dave 11:35 But we've seen all the parts before in things. Like there's no this is no 28 days later, holy shit, the zombies can run thing. This is just like, okay, we got zombies or vampires or whatever these things are. Tara 11:43 Yeah Sarah 11:44 Right. Dave 11:47 We've got the guy from Ghosts who spends half the first episode trying to get out of the mansion and he just pops back in. We've got that little element to it. So we've got all these very familiar pieces and they are just putting together five of them that haven't been quite put together before, but it's all extremely familiar. And it all seems to be very JJ Abrams mystery box, which I am done with. I'm still letting that whole mystery box type of show sit fallow. It we're in year 10 or whatever we are now, and I feel like I need at least another five years. So if that's another strike against this show for me, like there's nothing wrong with the mystery box show unto itself to exist in the universe. But I am really tired of them. So that was another sort of like, uh Tara 12:32 Yeah, this also like compare it to the Boroughs which just got canceled as we're recording this Sarah 12:33 Yeah Tara 12:38 yesterday, we were saying in that discussion, like it suffers from the comparison to Widow's Bay, and this does as well. Like we already have seen a much better, more inventive version of Sarah 12:46 Mm hmm. Tara 12:50 Spooky town, no one can leave, but Widow's Bay is like such a leap forward, like Dave said, it doesn't just pick from the component parts or if it's showing you something that you've seen before, like, you know, a slasher movie or a spooky haunted hotel or whatever. It has a spin on it. Dave 13:06 Yeah. Tara 13:07 It's it brings some wit to it, whereas this is just like, and you feel a sense of dread. And it's like, okay, great. Dave 13:11 Yeah. The tone of Frum is very expected given its components, whereas Widow's Bay does sort of flip it on his head a lot of the time. Tara 13:16 Yes. Sarah 13:17 Yeah Tara 13:20 Yeah, and I hate to say this about my home and native land, but when something is made in Canada, you could just tell. When the guy plays Frank, the who you the the father of the family that gets killed in the cold open, when he's brought back like Sarah 13:26 Yeah Tara 13:34 I s I said to Dave, I can't put my finger on what exactly it is about this, but he is freaking out very Canadianly. Dave 13:38 Yeah. If yeah. Tara 13:40 Like I can just tell that's that we're shooting in Vancouver. Dave 13:42 If yeah, if Sorkin wrote that character, he would be Andy Mackinaw. Sarah 13:47 Mm-hmm. Hundred percent. Dave 13:49 He was to me look like Paul Fudd, I was calling him. He had a lot of Paul Rudd DNA, but not Tara 13:53 No, no, that's the that that's the dad. That's the dad of the of the living family. Dave 13:57 Oh oh sorry. Tara 13:58 This is Frank, the the guy who passed out on the floor of the bar, which Yes, he is. Dave 14:00 Oh yeah yeah yeah. Yeah the R V guy is definitely Paul Fudd. Not yeah, not the drunk guy. Tara 14:04 I am Bailey. Dave 14:05 I did like the scene where the sheriff goes apeshit when the drunk guy finally gets home and he is the drunk guy whose family has been uh ate. Tara 14:05 Yeah. Sarah 14:06 Yeah Dave 14:13 during the night because the daughter saw grandma in the window. Tara 14:13 Yeah, mm hmm. Dave 14:16 Uh that scene was good. Sarah 14:16 Yeah Dave 14:17 I thought that scene was had some raw energy to it that could have carried through the rest of it. Sarah 14:21 It does some things well. Seems a little in love with its own production design, but I thought it was effectively creepy and f foreboding. I could have done without the the theme song revision. Tara 14:32 Oh god, yes. Sarah 14:34 But by the Pixies. Dave 14:34 Oh yeah, quesar Razara, yeah. Tara 14:35 Yes, minor key case arasera with a gender flip thrown in for fun. Sarah 14:41 I don't think I get it. Tara 14:41 Oh, it is oh God Sarah 14:43 Yes, what Dave 14:46 Speaking about the design though, I understand this is just a small rural crossroads sort of intersection of a town. Actually not even crossroads. There's no crossroads. There is a diner surrounded by residential homes, and then there's a gas station surround like they just plopped it in just for the sake of this person needs to be close to this structure. Tara 15:06 Mm-hmm Dave 15:06 And it wasn't that the town is trying to survive and they converted something into the diner. The diner's obviously always been a diner. I don't think in the post apocalyptic world they were like, you know, it'd be great if our diner had some neon signs that said diner on it. Tara 15:17 Right. Dave 15:19 Obviously this was a diner. Tara 15:21 That we still light up even though like everyone knows where it is. Dave 15:22 We still light up. Look, it's a good morale booster, Tara Tara 15:24 Like just turn it off. Right, but it also has the church and the graveyard, like directly across the street from where people are like eating their omelets, presumably. Dave 15:34 It was very somebody creating their first city in SimCity. Tara 15:38 Yes. Dave 15:38 It was like I just could put everything close together so it's really convenient. And then like Twenty years into the future, the citizen trees up in arms. There are ghosts in my diner. Tara 15:46 Yes. I just w was reminded uh you know, this town where it's like there's no reason to be there except to stop to get gas or possibly eat, you know. Dave 15:55 Mm-hmm. Tara 15:56 On the if you'll forgive me, on the drive from Regina to Winnipeg Dave 16:00 Ultra giggles. Tara 16:01 There is a town about halfway at the roughly the halfway point called Musiman and no, it's called Musiman Dave 16:05 Taint, oh Tara 16:08 And if you not to be confused with Moose Jaw. And so the Trans Canada Highway at mostly in the flat parts of the country is like a straight line. Dave 16:16 Mm-hmm. Tara 16:16 Like it just y there's nothing there's no variation Dave 16:18 It's mesmerizing. Tara 16:19 I mean, I'm sure I've talked about it before, but like you when you're driving into one or the other city, you can see it coming for like 40 minutes. Like you think you're almost there, and then it's like, no, it's still real far. Dave 16:26 Yeah. Yeah. It's so weird Sarah 16:30 It's like New York, New York, and Vegas. Tara 16:30 Yes. Yes. Sarah 16:32 You're like, why are we still walking? The Empire State Building is right there. Tara 16:35 It's true. Sarah 16:36 It's not Tara 16:37 Anyway, what Musiman or the Musiman Town Fathers figured out is like this is a place where lots of people stop. We should build a KFC and they did. And every time we would go there, it would it was the most it was like the KFC that would be refurbished before every other KFC in Canada. Like it had the most modern signage. Dave 16:58 Yeah. Tara 16:58 It was like the most it f seems new all the time. Whenever we would stop in it, like years apart, it looked like it had just been Yes. Dave 17:03 Admiral Sanders Tara 17:05 It had just been redone. So I would have liked to see in the From Town, which I was calling Fromville in my notes, if it was like all this sort of folk horror stuff, and then in the middle of this like And a Taco Bell for no reason. Dave 17:19 Yeah. Tara 17:19 Like I just think that would be fully funny. Dave 17:20 And somehow the Taco Bell's always fully stocked with hot sauce packs. And then at night when they come, the Chihuahua is up against the window yo quiero Taco Bell. Tara 17:26 Mm-hmm. Dave 17:30 No, that's not your beloved dog. Sarah 17:36 We could stop there. Dave 17:36 All right. Tara 17:37 Okay. Now that Musabin has been invoked, let's move on. Dave 17:45 Alright everybody, it is time for everybody's favorite question and answer segment. It is time for Ask EHG. From I know we backed down to earlier, but what a terrible title for this show too. Tara 18:11 So bad. Sarah 18:12 Oh, my God! Tara 18:13 Mm-hmm. Dave 18:13 Yeah. Okay, let's get into Ask E H G, which means we first must get into our Ask Ask E H G judgment segment. So let's spin the wheel of judgment, tick, tick, tar. Tara 18:24 Just a couple of entrants ch this week. Our question is from Dr. Calhoun. The good news, you've inherited a mansion. The bad news, you hit your head and now you can see ghosts. What kind of ghosts do you see and how do you deal with it? Our runner-up, just the one this week, and you will find out why when I get to the winner, is Kerfuffler, who writes. The mansion I inherited is the Alabama home my grandmother grew up in. I hit my head and wake up to three generations of my forebears arguing about which body parts I inherited from whom. Most of these arguments are not complimentary, but I'm thrilled to see my great grandmother or is she so she can confirm or deny the rumor That my grandmother's much older sister is really her mother. Once I get the delicious tea on that, I sell the place and get the Fuck out of Alabama. This is why it's the runner up. Casually dropping family gossip for no reason. Dave 19:16 You hit Tara's sweet spot. Tara 19:17 You so did. Sarah 19:18 Mm-hmm. Dave 19:19 Yeah. The blood of the thief Tara 19:20 One of the episodes of Not Suitable for Work This Week is two roommates sharing gossip and a third person is there and they're like kittin, you know Tell me everything, and it doesn't matter if I know the people involved. I don't care. And I'm just like, yep, that's me. Dave 19:30 Yeah. Tara 19:32 But our winner is Dan Cassino. Sarah 19:32 Yep. Tara 19:34 Strap in everyone. Get comfy. This manor is like a maze. I say, upon my first visit to the house left to me by Great Uncle Pack before hitting my head and being able to see the ghosts of the cats that previously lived in the house One of them follows me around, another tries to anticipate where I'm going and meet me there. A third doesn't like the first one and tries to go to places he doesn't, and a fourth one kind of wanders around randomly. The big problem is how they take all of my fruit and sometimes even my keys and just make them move around the house so I have to collect them. Cats don't even eat cherries! Thankfully they're not too difficult to deal with, as there's a safe spot where they don't bother me for some reason, and a secret passageway that they just don't realize is there that lets me get around the house without them following me. Also, if I get really fed up, I can just open up a can of their favorite food from when they were living, and if I get it close enough to them, they run back to their old room in the middle of the house so I can get some sleep. It's a weird brand they don't sell at Costco and a little expensive, so I can't do it all the time, but it's enough to keep them off my back for a while It's disconcerting at first, but once you know the tricks, you even grow to like those little scamps, hope they don't act differently once my wife shows up. I'm worried that they'll try and get the bow she's always wearing. So yes, Dan made himself Dave 20:45 Wow. Tara 20:46 Pac-Dan for the purposes of this question, Adam807 replied to that jail wrong sticker. So email colon David at Cole. fyi or just text him, Dan. I think you have his contact info to get your sticker. Dave 21:02 Yeah, thanks. Uh email me. I've been losing stuff in DMs, so I just turned uh DMs off for a bit. Sarah 21:07 It took me until the bow to figure it out. Dave 21:12 All right, let's get into your questions for us this week. Sarah 21:12 It's me. Dave 21:14 First one comes from Hayden Haymaker. They ask, What is your favorite new show of this year? Tara 21:21 Well, with an unhonorable mention to Widow's Bay, if only because I've gotten so much freelance work out of it? My actual answer is sadly already canceled and that is strip law, the extremely funny adult animated show on Netflix. Just because they're not making more doesn't mean you can't watch it and you should. Holy shit, it's so fucking funny. Dave 21:39 Yeah, that's great. Tara 21:41 We watched it in whenever that was March. I feel like I'm already ready to watch it again. Dave 21:45 Mm-hmm. Yeah, I agree. Tara 21:47 Sarah. Sarah 21:48 Widow's Bay, but honorable mentions to Wonder Man, which everyone already kind of forgot about. And I also really liked Legends. I thought it was good. Dave. Dave 21:56 I also had Strip Law and Widow's Bay, so I will go with my other one, which was a DTF St. Louis. I really enjoyed that off-kilter show. Tara 22:03 mm, mm Dave 22:05 I thought it was a very unique offering. So yeah, good choices there. If you haven't watched those shows, watch them. Jovial Gent, follow-up from last week's question. How would Dawson's Creek be different directed by David Lynch? Sarah. Sarah 22:17 The Dawson Andy drunken sode in season two would be shot entirely from the point of view of the cake. Dave 22:25 I would guess more bad shit is happening in the dead of night in Capeside if David Lynch is watching, and probably more little people. Tara 22:32 Scenes with Pacey's dad would be even more foreboding. Jen would not survive the series premiere, and Mitch would have died trying to pick up a donut, not an ice cream cone. Dave 22:43 And that there would be a lot of weather updates. Tara 22:45 Hmm, yes. Dave 22:46 Johnny Assay, follow-up to the follow-up, how would Twin Peaks be different if directed by Dawson Leery? The log ladies log would be replaced by a walkie-talkie. Dark Tara 22:56 Uh, fewer old growth pine trees, Sarah Sarah 22:59 Bob spends a lot of time climbing through people's windows via ladder. Dave 23:04 Johnny Say has one just for me, Logistics Operator. Do you ever think about making the Canon Hopper list public? I think it would be interesting to see what the options are and how long things sit in there. So things can sit in there for a long time. I've had one that was in there for three years before we used it. That's not a value judgment. The issue is Ones that are a hard sell pick for us three usually sit in until a guest picks it, or we do a all-canon episode where we actually put it in there. So 95, 96, 97% of submissions do make it to air. They just have to wait for the right person to come along. I don't want the list out there because like because then people know potentially what's coming up and that bothers me for some reason. I don't like that And I don't want people obsessing over their submissions and emailing me why haven't you used my submission yet after three months or whatever. Just know that it's in there unless it was super technically terrible or was over a half hour long, which is one of the submissions I got once. Just takes a little time for Canon Submissions to uh make it to the show sometimes. It's uh not a first-in, first out system. Kerfuffler! Hey, Kerfuffler's back tar. Tara 24:12 Mm-hmm. Dave 24:12 Alex Horne recently admitted that there was one Taskmaster contestant he disliked. Who do you think it is, Tara? Tara 24:18 Well, you know, I went through the entire list of past contestants and I had a few guesses. Dave 24:20 Sure. Tara 24:24 I put David Badil as a possible, but that might just be because I don't like him. Ditto Victoria Corn Mitchell. Phil Wang, I know, ha has said he had a bad time, and I wonder if that went both ways, but my actual answer is probably Ian Sterling, who was like the most obnoxious most competitive person. The person that's at the intersection of both of those problems. Dave Dave 24:48 I also answered Ian Sterling. I just think because he's the only person that brought genuinely bad energy to the show, and apparently there is no way to edit around it. Tara 24:58 Well that's the thing. If it's getting into the show, it must be like how much worse stuff did they Dave 25:03 Yep. Tara 25:04 cut in order to to make him palatable at all. Dave 25:06 I I think Alex Horne can handle somebody that's not into it in to a degree that other contestants are. Tara 25:13 Joe Brand Dave 25:13 Sure. But there is a certain archetypal system we have in Taskmaster, well established by Tara Ariano That calls for that type of contestant sometimes. Tara 25:24 Mm-hmm Dave 25:24 What it doesn't call for is somebody that is a genuine asshole on set Tara 25:28 Yeah, yes. I'll also, uh while we're on the subject of Taskmaster, link in the show notes to past and future guest Roxana Hadadi's post at Vulture about Why Kumail Nanjiani was a taskmaster cautionary tale. She makes a great case for like why his recently ended contestanthood did not pop the way he probably hoped, and probably not the way the show hoped either. Dave 25:51 Alright, L Triple B, I always know where my car is parked in a parking lot. It's like a homing beacon. Is this the lamest superpower possible? Tara 26:01 Uh, sounds more like a brag. Dave Dave 26:04 It's definitely up there. Mind is knowing which of the four far flung places supermarkets keep cheese have the particular cheese that I am looking for. Sarah. Sarah 26:13 No, that's a great one. As the former owner of a smart car that I drove to large sporting events, I Could've used it. You should find a way to monetize that shit. My superpowers are extremely lame, so. Dave 26:23 Yeah. I wonder if Triple B superpower extends to parking structures and not just lots. Because that's where they get ya. Sarah 26:29 Mm, yeah, that's true. Dave 26:31 Jovial Gent, what is a bulk food drink item that would be better sold in a bucket, Sarah? Sarah 26:37 Peanut M M's, Tara. Tara 26:40 Kalachis. Dave. Dave 26:41 Is peanut MM's a bulk food item though? That's where I got hung up. Tara 26:44 Well, I assume I mean, by bulk food I like you could Sarah 26:47 If it's in a bucket, it is Tara 26:48 You could potentially scoop them if out of a you know, a bin and the bulk aisle at the grocery store. Dave 26:53 Ah yeah yeah yeah sure sure. Okay. I don't really generally eat anything they sell in that bulk aisle with the big tubes that you get a bag full of whatever, fast enough to warrant buying a bucket of it. Tara 27:01 Mm-hmm. Dave 27:04 If I could buy Satan in a bulk situation, I probably would, because I go through a lot of it these days, but you know, they don't put gooey perishable stuff in those bulk bin containers, so. No good answer for you here. Sorry. Kara, if you cut your sandwich into triangles as God intended, do you eat the hat that has more of the top of the loaf crust first or last? I never thought about this ever in my life I don't think a triangle cut is always the best way to eat a sandwich, frankly. Tara 27:28 Nope. I agree. Dave 27:33 If we're talking grilled cheese, yes, absolutely, definitely, I'm here for a triangle cut. I don't want my like Capre sandwich cut in triangles. That's just asking for a cheese chunk to fall out of the little thin bit. So let's acknowledge that the triangle cut is not universal. And that's my answer. Tara 27:47 Yeah. Dave 27:48 Sir. Sarah 27:49 I don't always cut my sandwiches that direction. In fact I usually don't, but whether it's triangle or rectangle, like vertical cut, I eat point to point and not across the cut part, if that makes sense. Tara 28:00 No, of course. Dave 28:00 Yeah. That's right. Tara 28:02 Yes. Dave 28:02 The triangles invited you to eat the little tippy bits first. Tara 28:05 Yes. Dave 28:05 Yeah. Sarah 28:05 Yeah. Dave 28:06 So really this comes back on care. Oh, how come you're eating your sandwich weird? Sarah 28:10 Yeah. Dave 28:10 Yeah. Sarah 28:10 Also, is it two triangles? One diagonal cut? Or are you f a four-triangler? Dave 28:16 Oh god. Sarah 28:17 Because who has time? Tara 28:18 Uh she says half, so I assume one cut. Dave 28:19 Yeah. Sarah 28:20 Okay. Dave 28:20 She's not British. She's not serving cucumber sandwiches for tea. Sarah 28:23 Yeah. The bottom crust of the bread is my less preferred, but I don't actually care. I came from a you're eating crusts household as a kid, so Dave 28:33 Oops, all crusts at the bunting house. Sarah 28:35 Yeah, we're we're crusty. Google it. Tara 28:39 I've never paid attention to this and I have no preference. Dave 28:42 All right, Dr. Calhoun. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Clip 28:45 Enough! I'm so sick and tired of hearing you people talk about food, food, food. Dave 28:50 It was a failure on my part, and it was a failure on my backup system, Sarah D. Bunting's part. Dr. Calhoun, I'm currently stuck in an airport six hours after I got here. What's the longest you've had to spend at an airport and why, Tara? Probably your answer is the same as mine. Here we go. Tara 29:04 Yeah, it was probably a total of a full day trying to get from New York to Toronto at Christmas two thousand eight on two Dave 29:07 Yep. Tara 29:11 consecutive days before we finally were like, well, this is not happening. It was like endless weather delays to where we like went, checked in, then went home at the end of the first day. Dave 29:20 Yeah, at the appendix terminal at LaGuardia before they renovated it. Tara 29:24 Ugh yes. Dave 29:25 Back when it was just like cobwebs in the corner, bats and shit flying around. Tara 29:29 Yes, the armpit of the world. But when I lived in New York, I used to often because my sister had just uh had a baby So I would often go like straight from work on a Friday to Newark to try and fly out to Toronto, like just go for the weekend 'cause it was such a short flight. But if I got the last flight of the day, it usually would end up getting delayed. Like Several hours. Dave 29:50 Yep. Tara 29:50 But that that Christmas two thousand eight was the longest for sure, Sarah. Sarah 29:51 Mm-hmm. Dave 29:53 That was yeah. And then we're like, we can do this again, but like no Christmas. No Christmas this year. Goodbye. Tara 29:59 Yeah. Dave 29:59 Yeah. Sarah 30:00 Yeah. Dave 30:00 Sarah. Sarah 30:00 If you Count a de-icing line. The couch parent and I spent three hours in Newark Airport and another three in the de-icing line thanks to an unexpected ice storm that hit while we were trying to get to the TWAP summit in Vegas that year. It could have been worse as it was for my dad. Dave Sr. was four planes ahead of us in the de-icing line and apparently his plane ran out of booze and reading material like an hour into taxiing and it was like His idea of a solution to this mutiny was to hand out my Sopranos recap printouts to fellow passengers. I'm not sure how anyone survived that, but anyway. dishonorable mention to landing for a connection in Dallas during the blizzard of ninety six and being told that my baggage had gone to New York, but I could kick rocks for two days and stay with my ex-boyfriend's mom Yeah, I should have just stayed at the airport, sorry. Dave 30:55 Alright, here comes your ask ask EHG question, dear listeners. It comes from EC Fell. Sarah 31:00 This is good. Dave 31:01 Add David Krumholtz to the next season of The Pit. Who is his character and how does he slot into the season? Go to our Discord. Sarah 31:10 That's a good one. Dave 31:10 There is an Ask Ask E-S-G channel there for you to put your answers in. Also, can do it right on the web page for this episode. I I don't want to get off into a tangent here, and I know it's established style guys, but in Glark's New America, you put the punctuation on the outside of quotes, not on the inside of quotes, because the exclamation made it sound like the pit was a musical. Tara 31:31 Yeah. This isn't correct. Dave 31:34 Okay. Tara 31:34 It should be on the outside. Sarah 31:34 Never change the pit Dave 31:36 Okay. Good I'm glad I'm right. Tara 31:38 I mean, if we're getting technical, it should be. Dave 31:40 We are. Tara 31:41 It shouldn't have quotation marks at all. Dave 31:43 All right. Tara 31:43 The pitch should be italicized, and then the exclamation Mark not Dave 31:47 Okay. It is time for the Tiny Cannon. Presenting this week is our good friend, Mr. Adam Grosswirth. Clip 31:54 The recent Patty LaBelle Christmas entry into the live TV Mishap's Tiny Canon reminded me of another classic TV moment that's similar but also strikingly different. It's the fourth of July, nineteen ninety-three, and Leslie Uggams, best known of course for her role in Backstairs at the White House, is kicking off a tribute to Rogers and Hammerstein at a televised concert on the National Mall in Washington, D. C. She walks up the aisle through the audience on the lawn singing June is busting out all over. Well, sort of. June is busting out all over, all over the meadow and the hills. Bushes and the rough and river riches, all the little wheels that will beside a mill. According to an interview Ugh's gave years later, it had rained earlier, the grass was still wet. and the cue car guy who was walking backwards in front of her slipped and fell. If you watch closely you can see this register ever so slightly on Ugh's face. But she's a pro, and rather than throwing a fit like Labelle, Uggams's just powers through June is busting out a lover And over the battery did tears and the individual driftings and they hocken up for cheapest out of all the morning glories on the fair because it's you Oh two, two, two, just two, two, two For her showbiz fortitude and having a sense of humor about the whole thing, I'm busting out all over to nominate Leslie Uggham's Huckin' the Bejeepers for the live TV Mishaps Tiny Canon. Tara 33:29 I thought that's what I heard. Dave 33:30 Yeah. Tara 33:30 Thank you, Adam. Sarah 33:31 Yep, Rassin Frested Watermelon. Dave 33:31 All right, good. Sarah 33:35 Love it. Tara 33:36 Sarah Sarah 33:37 This presentation is great, and also Leslie Ogham's is great. Like you can tell that this is not how it was supposed to go. Like, wasn't she a last-minute substitution anyway? Tara 33:46 Oh, you can? Mm-hmm. Sarah 33:50 So and then the cue card guy just bites it and it st I mean it looks really kind of miserable and wet and uncomfortable at the show as it is, but she's just trying to get to the glory note so that they can all forget this ever happened. And uh she does a great job. Like it's clear that this is not the first time she's had to fill in this way or just like figure out some other way to get to the end of a scene or a bar. in all the senses of that word. So yeah, this was delightful and um her choice of nonsense syllables to fill in was very charming. It works. Like by the end, she hits that glory note and you're like, I don't even remember what we're supposed to be assessing here in this tiny canon. She is great. Dave 34:38 All the font guys in their back are like, woo, Lorem Ipsum is music. Sarah 34:44 Sorry Tara 34:45 I saw this years ago and I wish I could remember who brought it to my attention. It might have been Adam, actually. I appreciate that he it didn't include the part where Stacy Keach is introducing her and says there is only one thing it has to be. It has to be good. Well it is in a sense, but in another sense It's not great. Sarah 35:05 Yeah. Tara 35:06 It also goes off the rails so much faster than I thought. But knowing the the lore about the cue card guy Dave 35:12 Yeah. Tara 35:12 I it's it's kind of more impressive that she just keeps going. Like she's she's trained to not pause Dave 35:19 Whereas in the last one when Patty LaBelle lost whatever it was, the monitor or whatever was happening there, she was just like, the monitor's gone. Tara 35:27 Yeah Dave 35:27 Jesus was just like, help. Sarah 35:28 Like immediately gave up. Dave 35:30 Yeah. Tara 35:30 Yeah. Sarah 35:30 Amazing. Tara 35:31 But that's the difference between a singer and an actor who sings, like who has been on the stage, and you know, if you if you forget your line, you still have to keep going or else you're gonna Fuck everybody else. Dave 35:40 Yeah. No second take. Tara 35:42 Right. Dave 35:42 Yeah. Tara 35:43 Knowing that lore makes me like it more. And like Adam said, she's had a sense of humor about it. She has subsequently done like, you know, videos r riffing on this moment and what a meme it has become and stuff. Sarah 35:52 Yeah. Tara 35:54 You know, it's it's not much to say she's had a sense of humor about it because obviously, but on the other hand, there are certainly lots of people who are less good humored about their um their their public Fuck-up. Sarah 35:55 Uh-huh. The phob Oh, also, if you are or no Tara 36:06 So Sarah 36:10 Q card guy, reach out. Tara 36:11 Oh yeah. Sarah 36:12 We'd love to we'd have to do a mini oral history of your take on this while suffering from a broken coccyx on the ground. Dave 36:18 The only thing that would have made it better is if the guy actually like got concussed and as the camera continues to go towards the stage to see his lifeless body with a q a cue card pile all around him. Tara 36:18 Mm-hmm. Sarah 36:30 Or the camera guy trips over him and then it's just like a complete pile up. Dave 36:34 That's right. Tara 36:35 Yep. Dave 36:36 Yeah, it's like Sam Pack and Pa salad days from Monty Python. Sarah 36:40 Slapstick. Tara 36:40 But the fact that these this and the Patty LaBelle one Sarah 36:41 Love it Tara 36:44 happened in DC?like what is why is the city setting up our divas to fail? Do better, DC. Dave 36:49 Yeah, what is it about Washington D.C. and inefficiency? Tara 36:53 Exactly. Anyway, Dave. Dave 36:54 Yeah, I kind of didn't like this in so far that I found it extremely cringy in a way that I was not enjoying until I read what happened. Because I watched it before I listened to Adam's pitch And then I realized that, oh, okay, this is more a story of professional triumph than it is of professional failure. It wasn't her fault, and she just went with it and managed to incorporate bejesus into her Lorem Ipsum lyrics. So I was like, okay, you've totally flipped me 180 on this whole situation. So I went from, oh, it makes Dave feel awkward to, oh, this is actually weirdly uplifting. Tara 37:25 Yeah Yeah. Dave 37:32 Yeah. Tara 37:33 Also, not to correct you, but I believe it was bejeebus, not bejesus. Dave 37:36 Bejeebus. Okay, great. Sarah 37:38 Help me, be cheapest. Dave 37:38 Even better. Yeah. Sarah 37:40 Okay, I will. Dave 37:41 Alright, let's make this official Sarah D. Bunting. What do you say about this for the tiny live mishap cannon? Sarah 37:47 June, June, June, yesery. Dave 37:49 Alright, tar. Tara 37:51 Dre Yes Dave 37:53 Me too. So June is bussing out all over from a capital fourth. You are hereby inducted into Extra Hot Great tiny live Miss Hot Kenneth. Clip 38:04 Americans love a winner. Yeah. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. Dave 38:10 Alright, it is time to discover who are our not quite winners and not quite losers of the week. I will go first. Not quite winner number one is Blood Axe. Yes, Blood Axe has been renewed for season two at Prime Video. Everybody's waiting for the second season of Blood Axe. Remember the first season of Blood Axe? How much you enjoyed it? Ah, that's not true. Season one has not yet been aired. It is the follow-up show, follow-up to Vikings kind of. He has some show in the middle, but that guy Created Vikings, didn't create the Viking sequel show, and now he's back with another Viking show. I don't think it's directly connected to Vikings, but it's like later in the Viking time period and Vikings. I don't know. having their way with Britain or whatever we're doing at that time, rampaging across Europe trying to figure out their helmet situation. But I really enjoyed the first few seasons of the original Vikings, so I'll give this one a watch Sarah 39:02 Trying to figure out their element situation. Just name the show that. Dave 39:07 Well you know. And not quite loser of the week Is Hockey Night in Canada is ending a story run on free Canadian television after like seven decades? It's been on for fucking forever. Tara 39:19 Yeah, it was a radio show before it was on TV. Dave 39:21 That's right. Sarah 39:22 Yeah, Jesus. Dave 39:23 And I'm just gonna say R. I. P. to Hockey Night in Canada, one of the best sports themes on the planet. Tied, I'm gonna say, with the NFL heavy action one. Let's have a quick listen. And like heavy action, which this is this one if you don't know what that is. Tara 39:54 Mm-mm, mm-mm. Dave 39:57 I think it was Monday Night Football's theme in the seventies and eighties. Much like that one, the Hockey Night in Canada theme has moods because that one, the NFL one, changes and becomes basically the start of our theme on this show. But Hakan I can it has this weird little bit. Anyways, early sparse themes absolutely fucking rock and they're terrible now. Sarah 40:32 Oh my god, the thrill of victory Tara 40:35 I would like to tell all figure skaters from Canada who listen and we know we're your favorite show. I challenge one of you to license that song and skate to it for your next program. Dave 40:45 Oh my God. Sarah 40:46 Oh my god, yes. Dave 40:47 Yeah, the crowd would go wild. Sarah 40:49 There are really a lot of movements to it too. Dave 40:52 Yeah. Sarah 40:52 It's like, here we are with the Magnificent Seven, and now it's a loveboat story involving a con man played by Jamie Farr? Dave 40:56 Yep. Yeah Sarah 40:59 Okay. Tara 41:00 Yep. Sarah 41:01 My not quite winner is Saul Goodman, who has been revived by Bob Odenkirk to do a PSA celebrating America 250. I'm not Totally hundred on the wisdom of that, but Odin Kirk's a pretty wise dude, so uh I'll allow it Tara 41:15 It's about the constitution, so I think uh it aligns with Saul's supposed values, I guess. Sarah 41:21 It aligns with a value. Tara 41:22 Well, yes. Dave 41:23 But wait, there's America 250 and there's freedom 250, right? There's two separate things going on. Sarah 41:27 Yes Dave 41:28 Yeah, okay. Sarah 41:28 Yes. And this one's the, you know good one the not bad one. Dave 41:30 This the less worse one. Tara 41:31 This is a good one. Dave 41:32 Yeah. Yeah. Sarah 41:34 Speaking of bad ones, not quite loser, Tyra Banks, who is suing Netflix for defamation over a documentary series that she parti participated in, claiming that her interview was surgically manipulated. Girl, the it was the editing excuse has not held a drop of water since like 1996. Also Fuck off. Tara 41:58 Also, you don't appreciate the irony of saying you were badly edited in a documentary about a show where you edited dozens of girls very badly? Sarah 42:10 Yeah. Dave 42:11 Also, what is the discovery phase? Here's the video tape. Tara 42:14 Yeah, seriously. Dave 42:14 Show it to the judge, like go back to your hot ice cream lady. Sarah 42:19 Yeah. Tara 42:19 My not quite winner of the week is our Janelle James of Abbott Elementary and Happy Endings creator David Caspe teaming up for a comedy at Hulu. Love her, love him, excited to see what they do together. Glad that she's got an eye to what's gonna be next for her after Abbott Elementary, because I'm sure it can't last forever. And she is one of that show's big discoveries, wonderful talent, and I'm happy to have him back on TV too, because I love happy ending So yay, all around. Sarah 42:49 Mm-hmm. Tara 42:49 Not quite loser of the week, Peter Serafinowicz, the latest formerly respected star to join the HBO Harry Potter series. And I reposted this on my Blue Sky account right after it was announced, but I also enjoyed this clip from an off-menu episode from I wanna say last fall, John early is a guest, but James Acaster ranted about this and I just wanted to play this so that every time subsequent people are announced joining the show, we can just be James Acaster rant here and we can all move on. So go ahead. Clip 43:21 It really makes me laugh that there are actors who know they're in it And it haven't been announced yet. Just thinking about all all all the actors who have been casting it already, and so they know they're definitely in it. Yeah. It hasn't been announced and they're just sitting around every day going, Oh shot, that's gonna Oh my god. Okay, let's let's see how this one goes down because they're they're announcing this first today. Let's see if people in breaks, oh I was worried about this. I was worried about this. I shouldn't have said this. I'm fucking vulnerable. Just want to get away with it Tara 43:54 I just want to get away with it, really, is I think what this all comes down to. Sarah 43:57 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Tara 43:59 And you kinda can't. Sarah 44:00 Mm-hmm. Tara 44:01 I mean, take the money, I guess, and if you can live with yourself, I don't know, great, but you can't also expect no one to um have opinions about it. Dave 44:10 Yeah. Sarah 44:10 Yeah. Tara 44:17 Today's extra credit topic comes from me. It is a recast. This felt like we hadn't done one of these in a while, and since the premiere of Six Feet Under turned 25 years old this year. I thought we could recast it. So we're gonna go down character by character as ordered on IMDB.sarah, who are you recasting as Nate Fisher? Originally played by Peter Krause. Sarah 44:43 Oh, Krause, old Narman. I decided to just gender flip this and uh so it's like putting the her back in Fisher and daughters. So Nate Junior now Talia is played by Margot Robbie. This will make a little more sense when we get to the casting of her parents. Tara 45:01 All right, Dave. Dave 45:03 So I tried the Tara method this time around, which is to find actors that are basically the same age. I had to widen it a little bit for a couple of them because I wasn't happy with uh who I could find. But for Peter Krause, I thought of it this way. Not a good actor, so I'm gonna slot in Charlie Cox, Daredevil here. Tara 45:22 Oh Dave 45:23 Who I also think is not a great actor. Sarah 45:24 Oh, yeah. Dave 45:24 He just picks roles where he just doesn't have to emote a lot to replace Peter Krause. If I was going for someone better, if I wanted an actual actor I think could do a better job emoting. Tara 45:29 Mm-hmm. Dave 45:35 And six feet under, I'm picking Dan Stevens. Tara 45:38 Hmm, interesting. Dave 45:38 Yes. Sarah 45:39 Ooh, I like that. Tara 45:39 I can see that. They they have a similar look too. Yeah, I like that. Sarah 45:42 Mm-hmm. Tara 45:43 I also did the Tara method, because I'm Tara. And I went with uh someone who is the same age as Peter Krause at the time of the premiere, and that is Jack Louden from Slowhorses. Seems like someone who would work as like Sarah 45:55 Oh wow. Great choice. Tara 45:58 a bit of a dilettante, you know, searcher in the way that Nate was. Ready to be annoying for the purpose of the role. I think you would work. Dave 46:07 Uh before we get off Peter Krause, I just want to share something that happens on my Mac. I have my macro setup whenever the word Krause is typed out. It replaces Krause with the black letter font, you know, the German newspaper looking thing. Tara 46:18 Uh-huh. Sure. Dave 46:20 So I just wanted to share that with you. Tara 46:22 Nice. Dave 46:22 In my show notes, it actually says Peter Krause. Sarah 46:22 Wow. Tara 46:28 Next up, David Fisher, originally played by Michael C. Hall. Sarah. Sarah 46:34 I put Amelia Jones, who played Maeve, in task. Um, she's now Dana. She, I think, is a little maybe too young, but could I easily age up and I think has the acting chops to be like play older so that's who I went with David David Tara 46:52 Yeah, Dave Dave 46:54 Okay. Played by Michael C. Hall, let's see our most insufferable method actor, Timothée Chalamet, sink his teeth into David's story, shall we? Sarah 47:03 Oh wow. He was on my long list for a couple rolls actually. Tara 47:08 Mm-hmm. I went with Connor Swindells. We last talked about him. He was the male lead in Jingle Bell Heist. Remember that that we talked about last year? Dave 47:15 Yep. Sarah 47:16 Yes. Dave 47:16 Sure. Tara 47:17 That guy. Sarah 47:18 Mm-hmm Tara 47:18 I think he would have that sort of straight laced, uptight, but has a big secret he's sitting on kind of energy. Dave 47:26 Sarah, did you notice that in Legends one of the offices they go to was the executive suite in Jinkle Bell Heights? Sarah 47:33 No. Dave 47:33 Mm-hmm. Sarah 47:34 Oh my God. Dave 47:34 Yep. I was like I was like the Leonardo DiCaprio and the couch guy. Sarah 47:35 I did not notice that. Dave 47:38 Hey, Jiggle Height! Sarah 47:42 Oh, that's good Tara 47:42 Alright, next up Ruth Fisher, originated by Francis Conroy, Sarah. Sarah 47:48 Well now this is Rudy Fisher and uh played by Marcus Giamatti Because I realized sort of partway through the process, like if I wanted to cast certain actors, one of the parent actors had to be tall. I think that Paul Giamatti's vibe is a little too too sour for Ruth. So you need like something in the same literal family, but taller and a little sort of daffier versus bitter. So I went with Marcus Giamatti. And I feel like he should work more. He's good Tara 48:22 Mm-hmm. Sarah 48:23 Justice for judging Amy reruns. Tara 48:23 I like that guy. Sarah 48:25 Hello, some network, help me. Tara 48:27 Dave. Dave 48:27 So this was one of them where I was just sort of like taking dartboard stabs at it before paying close attention to the age and A lot of the how old now, how old then messaging that I discovered was very disturbing. Tara 48:41 Mm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm Dave 48:41 So here's a question for you. Sarah 48:42 Mm-hmm. Dave 48:43 My choice is Naomi Watts. How much older is Naomi Watts now than Francis Conroy was then? Tara 48:50 I'm gonna say ten years. Dave 48:52 Yeah, you're close. Nine. Tara 48:53 Yeah, mm hmm Dave 48:54 She is my choice. I think it should pull it off. Sarah 48:55 Now Dave 48:56 I think she was quite indifferent in love story, and I think that energy is very similar to the mother on Six Feet Under. Tara 49:03 Mm-hmm. Dave 49:03 So that's my pick. Sarah 49:03 Mm-hmm. Dave 49:04 The age doesn't line up, but I think like the face age lines up. Tara 49:04 Yeah Yeah. Dave 49:09 Yeah. Tara 49:09 Here's something um sh kind of shocking. First of all, my original pick was Catherine Parkinson, who is the right age mostly because she kind of looks she looks like Frances Conroy. Dave 49:19 From rivals and iT crowd, yeah. Tara 49:20 Yes, and Taskmaster. Dave 49:23 Humans. Tara 49:24 Heard of him. Dave 49:25 Yeah. Tara 49:26 Also, I think she could get A good read on Ruth's sort of mostly placidity with interrupted by hysterical shrieking about this or that Dave 49:35 Yeah. Tara 49:36 But then I discovered someone else who is the age that Francis Conroy was when Six Feet Under started, and that is Lauren Ambrose. So the original Claire is gonna be playing Dave 49:44 Oh that's good. Tara 49:46 Ruth in my conception. Dave 49:48 Brilliant. Tara 49:48 Speaking of Claire, Claire is next. Originally played by Lauren Ambrose. Sarah, who is our Claire now? Sarah 49:55 Uh our Claire is now Clarence and is played by Rudy Panco from Outer Banks, who is probably too old but does have like most of that cast and also the 13 reasons why cast. They're all like 29, but for whatever preppy lighting reason they're able to read as 20 He does look like he can play young and also stoner disaffected. So that is my choice. Dave. Dave 50:21 I don't really know who this person is, but I saw a picture and I thought, yeah, okay, that fits and the age is relatively correct. Sadie Sink Stranger things and Spider-Man movie coming up, I think. Tara 50:31 Stranger Things. Sarah 50:33 Mm-hmm. Tara 50:33 Yep. Dave 50:33 She looks apart. Tara 50:34 She really does. Dave 50:35 I don't really know if she's got the chops, but who cares? Tara 50:37 I think she's good. Dave 50:38 Okay, great. Tara 50:39 My Claire is Bailey Bass. That's the original Claudia from season one of Interview with the Vampire before they recast her. Dave 50:47 Is it Tara 50:48 I think, you know, she's gotta have a little bit of chaos in her and I think that girl can do it. Sarah 50:49 Okay. Mm-hmm. Tara 50:54 Next, Federico Rico Diaz, originally played by Freddie Rodriguez. Sarah, who is our new Rico? Sarah 51:04 I have no real rationale for this. I just like him, Jirail Jerome, from When They See or uh Yeah, When They See Us. Tara 51:09 Mm-hmm. I can see that. Mm-hmm. And I'm a Virgo. Sarah 51:14 Yes, I'm a Virgo. I did consider requiring him to be like in character as from I'm a Virgo so that he would just be crammed into the Crammed into the Fisher home all the time, but seemed a little too chaotic, even for me. Tara 51:25 Mm-hmm. Sarah 51:28 Dave. Dave 51:29 I'm going with Xolo Maridueña. Mari Duena? Tara 51:32 Yep. Maridueña, I think that's it. Dave 51:34 Maridueña, thank you. Tara 51:35 Mm-hmm. Dave 51:36 From Cobra Cai, he was Miguel in Cobra Kai. Tara 51:38 Yep. Dave 51:38 He's the same age. You know, he's fine. Tara 51:39 Mm-hmm Dave 51:40 I it's probably better than Freddie Rodriguez, but you know. Tara 51:42 Probably. Sarah 51:44 I mean, yeah. Dave 51:45 Yeah. Tara 51:45 Yeah Dave 51:45 Can I just say stupidly, we won't get into how stupid it was, because it was double stupid. I originally bef spent forty-five minutes doing a power ranking of six feet under before I remembered this was a cast this. And Freddie Rodriguez did not do well. Tara 52:02 No, really? Sarah 52:03 No, no. Tara 52:03 That's crazy. Dave 52:04 Yeah. He's doing a lot of video game voiceover work these days. Tara 52:07 That feels about right I went with Nicholas DeVernay. I recently mentioned him because he's one of the stars of Not Suitable for Work. He's hot. He doesn't really look like you know like Rico at all. I think he's a good enough actor and uh I would like to see him dealing with some bodies. I think he could get the the sort of um Rico's attitude of like Extreme servility when he's dealing with his bosses and then shit talking behind their back. Next, Keith Charles, originally played by Matthew St. Patrick, Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 52:40 This is now Kayla Charles, and it did feel like Christina Vidal had that. I'm hot and a cop. I'm a hot cop. Energy. Um, and you know, justice for Primo. Tara 52:49 Yeah Sarah 52:51 I'm always doing it. Tara 52:52 Forever, Dave. Dave 52:53 I went with Winston Duke. He is the guy from Black Panther that plays M'batu M'baktu M'baku, the rival faction leader. Tara 52:59 Yes Mm-hmm. Dave 53:03 I think he's got more swagger, so I think he could be even better. Tara 53:04 Yeah. Also, the dad from us that we see in like shorty shorts at some point, and he's got some real meaty thighs, and I was into it. Dave 53:12 Hell yeah, right. Yeah, it's got the meaty thighs you want. Tara 53:16 Yep. Dave 53:16 Yep, that rubbery bum. Tara 53:18 I went with Steven James um from If Beale Street Could Talk, but also uh was the lead opposite Julia Roberts in season one of Homecoming. Sarah 53:29 Yes. Tara 53:29 Very good Canadian actor, we claim him, that I feel like I haven't seen in a while, so let's get him in there. Sarah 53:32 Mm-hmm. Tara 53:35 Next up, Brenda Chanowith, originally played by Rachel Griffiths. What are we doing, Sarah? Sarah 53:41 I went with Emily Van Camp. I don't know why exactly. She might be she might be a little past the sort of age window that they would be casting this with but uh once I got this pair of siblings casting in my head I could not Get it out, all will become clear when we get to Billy, but yes, I went with Emily Van Camp of Everwood, Revenge, and many others. Dave! Dave 54:05 I went with Florence Pugh. Tara 54:07 Mm-hmm. Dave 54:07 I thought she could be off-kilter enough to sell it the same way that Rachel Griffiths did. I think that would be a equal uh comparison there. Sarah 54:13 Mm-hmm. Tara 54:15 Well, speaking of off kilter, that was my thought too, which is why I picked Jody Comer from Killing Eve. Sarah 54:16 Yeah, I like that. Dave 54:21 Oh, yeah. Sarah 54:22 Ooh, yeah, that's a good pick Tara 54:23 I would love to see what she brought to it. Next, Vanessa Diaz, Rico's wife, originally played by Justina Machado. Sarah, who's your Vanessa? Sarah 54:33 I went with Vanessa from Atlanta, Zazie Beats Tara 54:37 Ha Love that. Sarah 54:38 I think she would be a little less, I don't know, like that striver energy that Vanessa has, but like uh wittier about it. So I always like what she gets up to. She makes good choices. Dave. Dave 54:51 So I guess a bit like the Lauren Ambrose answer from Tara, I'm gonna go with Isabella Gomez. From one day at a time where she played the daughter, and weirdly, she is old now as Justina was then, which again, time, how does it work? Tara 54:59 Yep Yeah. Sarah 55:07 Yeah Dave 55:07 I don't really know if she'd do a good job. I don't really think she's done much since one day at a time, but just for funsies, we're gonna go that way. Tara 55:13 Sh she was in shrinking this season. Dave 55:15 Right. Tara 55:15 She's she's all right. I went with Lana Condor from the To All the Boys I've Loved series. She's an adorable little Spitfire like Justina Machado is, so I think it could work. Dave 55:26 What was your last name? Tara 55:28 Condor. Thank you. Next, Billy Chenowith Brenda's Brother, originally played by Jeremy Sisto. Sarah D. Bunting. Pay off what you teased earlier. Sarah 55:40 Yeah. Well look there was that whole thing on Brothers and Sisters where Emily Van Camp and David Annibal were supposed to be brother and sister and then it was like El Scorchio chemistry. So David Annibal, he's probably too old and has already been killed off of various Yellowstone spin-offs like twenty-eight times Might need some hair dye, but going with Annibal. Dave. Dave 56:04 I was going for that off-kilter energy here with the brother, so I'm gonna go Barry Keoghan. Certified weirdo. Tara 56:12 Yeah. Sort of like a weird person. There's a meme about him saying things in his Irish accent. I went with Gus Burney. You think it's a guy. It's not. It's a lady. She played the daughter in Shining Vale. She had a also had a recurring role as one of Emily's friends in Dickinson. She has a very sort of angular kind of Medigliani look and and just a very kind of silky feline energy. And I know that, you know, originally this character was a boy, but there's no reason it couldn't be a girl and have the similar kinds of relationship with Miss Brenda as on the original in the original casting. Sarah 56:44 Mm-hmm Tara 56:49 And then we're going to close up with Nate Fisher Sr. , the role originated by Richard Jenkins. Sarah 56:56 I went with carabono. I'm not totally sure why I did that. But that is Natalie The late Natalie Fisher, and uh I just feel like she does not get quite enough of a chance when she's casting TV things to really like dig in and make a meal of it. She's only in a few episodes at a time, or she's playing a defendant and she's gone after an episode. I really like her and uh so I would like to see her do this as a ghost. Dave. Dave 57:26 I'm gonna pick the world's number one body horror as method acting fan Christian Bale to play Richard Jenkins. Sarah 57:34 Mm. Dave 57:35 To the point where he's gonna try to get plastic surgery to look more like Richard Jenkins. Sarah 57:35 Okay Dave 57:39 Really gonna Fuck him up, but he works with it. Tara 57:40 Mm-hmm. Dave 57:41 And then somehow, after the gig is done, he looks normal again Tara 57:44 Yeah. Well the list of um big actors who are currently the same age as Richard Jenkins was at the start of six feet under is, I'm gonna say wild. Here are a few. Ben Affleck, Wayne Brady, John Cho, Common, Josh Dumel, Idris Elba, Johnny Lee Miller, Alessandro Navola, Carl Urban From almost human. Sarah 58:08 Heard of him Dave 58:09 Almost heard of them. Tara 58:10 Marlon Wayans and Kir Smith from Dawson's Creek, but I did not go with any of them. Sarah 58:14 Wow. Tara 58:16 I went with a Sara D. Sarah 58:16 Oh Tara 58:18 Bunting fave, Matthew Del Negro, aka hotter Noah Wyle. You need someone hot and tall. And he is both those things. Dave 58:28 Alright guys, that is it for another episode of Extra Extra Hot Great, he says angrily for some reason. That's it for another episode of Extra Extra Hot Great. Okay, deal with it. We emerge from the June 4th and pool from to then proceed to the rest of the show from there. Before answering your burning ass EHG questions like who does Alex Horne hate and how are you eating your cut sandwiches? Adam busted out his successful tiny live TV mishap cannon. We celebrated those who weren't quite the best and worst of the week and wrapped it all up with a recasting of Six Feet Under. Next up on EHG Prime is Million Dollar Nannies. Expensive. Remember. Nope. Nope. Clip 59:16 We're listening. Dave 59:20 Look. Oh no! My keyboard has shifted exactly one key over from where it is usually and my muscle memory is not working. Alright, here we go. Remember, I'm David T. Cole on behalf of Tara Ariano. Tara 59:32 You got kids, you nail the window shut Dave 59:32 Quickly. Certainly but the Thanks for listening. Sarah 59:35 Resin, present, peace and carrot. Dave 59:39 We'll see you next time right here. Clip 59:46 What are they doing? Can we just leave, please? Yeah. Dave 59:53 Oh, I forgot to play this earlier. Clip 59:55 My sandwich Dave 59:57 Alright, there we go. Clip 01:00:02 This is Extra Hot Great Minis. Today's topic, casting the cast. Today's topic comes to us from uh our old friend at the Crace Spruce, who posits, let's say two or more characters from different shows somehow meet. Find some common ground and decide to get together and make a podcast about it. Which characters should undertake such a project and what's the topic they choose to podcast about? I will begin and then I'm going to throw to Tara because I'm going to be kind of shocked if she doesn't do something similar. I really feel. That Monica Geller from Friends and Mark from Playing House need to have a home improvement show that breaks down angrily The correct way to paint your home and cleanup afterwards. It's called the Breeze Way. Tara, what have you got for us? Well, I d I went a totally other direction. Mine is going to be all about uh modern manners. Uh it's called Observing the Social Contract, starring uh Liz Lemon, Frasier Crane, Larry David, and Hannibal Lecter. Jeb. Wow. I was talking to my good friend Roger Stone the other day and uh what I wanna what I want to know is I want to know the truth about what's going on in government right now, uh CPS workers uh NASA uh FEMA camps. And what I would want to hear is uh the Lone Goodman and uh Dale Gribble. My good friend Dale Gribble. Uh getting at what's going on right now with deep state and uh captive Zionist occupied government media That's an amazing joke. Special guest star Munch. Can't wait. Oh my god. Uh Dave. George Costanza and George Jefferson team up to talk about all the things the rest of the world does improperly. In George is getting upset.