Did We Feel Safe Cracking On Jingle Bell Heist?

Dave: [0:21] This is the extra extra hot great podcast episode 384 for the november 29 2025 weekend, i am blood drawing dna treasure room lock david t cole and i'm here with trojan bouquet Hey, it's everybody. Sarah: [0:41] Achoo! Dave: [0:42] And salt beafer, Dari Ariano. Tara: [0:44] Hey. Sarah: [0:46] We'll be right back. Dave: [0:55] Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Extra Extra Hot Great. Before we get into our lead topic, here's a little announcement for everybody that is subscribed on Apple Podcasts. not on Patreon, but if you're subscribed through Apple Podcasts directly, we're going to try something. If you wanted to get on the Discord, but you can't because it's not auto-magically connected like Patreon is, we're going to try this. At the end of the podcast, after the regular show, there's going to be me giving you two secret words, and it's just going to be on your episodes on Apple Podcasts. Email me, david at cole.fyi, with those two secret words and say, I want in. And then I will get you a discord invite. So if you wanted to get on the discord, but you couldn't because it just wasn't possible before, we're going to try this. We're going to see how it goes. So stay tuned after the show. There'll be two words. Email me david at cole.fyi and I will get you in there. That's it. Tara: [1:53] Thank you, Dave. Let's get into the episode. Our lead topic is, in fact, Jingle Bell Heist, in which Sophie, Olivia Holt, is a clerk at the venerated London department store Sterling's. Sophie's mother's cancer requires treatment the NHS can't provide and that Sophie can't afford. Dave: [2:12] Happy Holidays. Tara: [2:13] Nick, Connor Swindells, is an ex-con. Happy Holidays. He needs money for an apartment suitable for himself and his adorable daughter. When Nick sees Sophie on the store's CCTV and figures out she also may plan to steal the jewelry out of the cage in the basement, he makes contact and they decide to team up. And wouldn't you know it, the best time for them to pull off some kind of heist on the store is Christmas Eve. The script was written by Abby McDonald and landed on the 2022 blacklist for the best-liked unproduced screenplays. It was directed by Michael Fimonieri, a cinematographer who's frequently collaborated with Mike Flanagan and who also directed the To All the Boys I've Loved Before sequels. Jingle Bell Heist dropped on Netflix November 26th. It is a movie. We are going to talk about the whole thing. Let's do the Chen check-in. Sarah, should our listeners watch Jingle Bell Heist? Sarah: [3:08] Yes, I was completely charmed. Tara: [3:10] Dave? Dave: [3:10] I mean, it's serviceable, but I thought it was going to be a lot more fun than it was given the premise and some of the actors. Tara: [3:16] Yeah, I thought it was fine. I guess I'm in the middle. It's a fine thing to put on in the background like a lot of Netflix product is. Let's drill down a bit. Heist, I think, is an action subgenre we all enjoy. Did it feel to anyone else like the stakes and ingenuity of the actual plan went down as the movie went on? I'm going to go to Sarah first since she liked it the most. Sarah: [3:39] I mean, it did. Like, this is where the movie is very clever. I mean, it's like a B, border of B, B minus, like objectively speaking. But the leads were very charming. I thought they had good chemistry. Conor Swindells, is it? Tara: [3:54] Yes. Sarah: [3:54] Is like British Dennis Quaid kind of to me. Like if Dennis Quaid and Andy Murray had a hot kid, it would be that. I mean, besides Jack Quaid, it would be him. So that was great, but they started off with some pickpocket tradecraft immediately. Tara: [4:11] Which I love. Sarah: [4:12] And got me in its pocket that way. And then after that, my notes do say there's sort of that squishy middle where the plan goes off the rails and then does it again and then does it another way. And then you find out squishy backstory. But by then I was like, pot committed to liking it. Tara: [4:32] Yeah. Sarah: [4:32] But yes, it definitely puts all its stunt cards, trick cards on the table. And then after that, it's not as impressive, certainly. Tara: [4:42] Dave, did you agree that kind of flagged in the middle? Dave: [4:45] Yeah, but also like the end of the heistering for all their individual plans and then the eventual boyfriend-girlfriend team, their collective plans, and that falls apart. And it's just like the wife of the store owner saying, oh, I'll get everything. Don't worry about it. Tara: [5:03] Yeah. Dave: [5:03] I was like, what? Sarah: [5:04] Yeah, that's a problem. Dave: [5:06] Couldn't you figure out another heist that she also had to have a leisure suit and running around into? too. It felt like they just sort of ran out of juice at the end of it. But let's rewind for a second. Here's a really important question. What can we do as a society to stop this Hallmark-esque holiday movie from taking over holiday movies in total? Because I feel like that's all we get now are these rom-com holiday-tinged movies. And even the ones that aren't at Christmas, they feel like they are just one search every place away from being this movie. Like, instead of making pumpkin pies, they will make candy canes. Tara: [5:48] Right. Dave: [5:49] Enter, new movie. Tara: [5:51] Yeah. Dave: [5:51] And it's all this now, I feel like. Tara: [5:53] Yeah. Well, we got the holdovers two years ago. Dave: [5:56] Oh, that's true. Tara: [5:57] That's a really good movie movie that is not this ilk. But I think, you know, in terms of TV, it's like Netflix, Hallmark, Lifetime. It's all, it's all like, it's like the Duff Brewery, the same hype throwing out into three different buckets. Dave: [6:13] It could be a volume issue, I suppose, like a perception issue. Tara: [6:17] There. Sarah: [6:18] Yeah. Or do the search and replace so that it's actually heist elements that are being swapped in instead of Christmas elements being traded out. And it's like, you know, big city girl returns to the small town of her youth in order to save her father's failing counterfeiting business. Like, I realize that I am literally the entire audience for this. I don't think so. Dave: [6:41] That movie. Sarah: [6:41] 17 times just put jack wagner in all of them i will watch it you are welcome. Dave: [6:47] No you're not a crackpot if jingle bell heist was what if james conned in thief but he falls in love at christmas yeah i'm there great i'm signed up he's got that giant fucking torch pipe and he's like cooking something yeah. Sarah: [7:00] Or like Die Hard in the ceilings at Macy's. Do we have to do everything, Dave? Dave: [7:05] I mean, Die Hard is already a Christmas movie. Tara: [7:08] That's what you're saying. Dave: [7:09] Your search and replace just got replaced and searched. Tara: [7:11] Well, I mean, to me, there already is kind of a pinnacle in the genre of like crime at Christmas. And it's not Die Hard. It's Catch Me If You Can, which is like that's the sweetest, nimblest, cutest, loviest. Like it has all of the elements this one wants to have. And it takes place at several Christmases. Dave: [7:30] There are Red Bow Christmas movies like this one. Tara: [7:32] Yes. Dave: [7:32] And there are Christmas-feeling movies like that one, like Catch Me If You Can. I usually gravitate towards the latter rather than the former. Tara: [7:41] Yeah. Dave: [7:41] Other thing that's not exactly about this movie, but it made me think, what has happened to the UK and Christmas over the past 20, 30 years that it seems incredibly Americanized now? Because when I was growing up, Santa Claus wasn't words that were really spoken. Tara: [7:57] No, it was Father Christmas. Dave: [7:59] It was Father Christmas. and everything was just like more subdued and traditional. And now I feel like they've basically, and same with Halloween, they've trick-or-treated themselves at Christmas. Now it's all like whatever they see on American pop culture, they have adopted. I feel like it's kind of a shame because I feel like it was much more Victorian, or like a merging of Victorian qualities and modern qualities. Tara: [8:21] Yeah. Dave: [8:21] And now it just feels like, oh, this could have been set in Seattle and it would have been the same thing. Tara: [8:26] Yeah, totally. Sarah: [8:27] Even their Christmas colors, I feel like have gone to that garish red, green, and gold, whereas it was more like a Wimbledon, purple, and forest green situation before. Dave: [8:39] But the Santa Claus that's in the shop, and this is like one of the first scenes, he's got some dang ass gray shit going on. Tara: [8:46] He really does. Dave: [8:47] It really looks like, oh, I see the Germanic roots of Christmas now. There it is. Yeah. Sarah: [8:53] Is that Saint Nick or Old Nick? I'm not sure. Tara: [8:57] And there's some details they haven't gotten totally right, like Santa's grotto. No, no, no no that's not what we call it in the store it's. Dave: [9:04] Santa's workshop it's santa's grotto. Sarah: [9:08] Sounds like a like james bond at christmas but yeah it needs more it needs less jingle and more heist. Dave: [9:15] Yeah yeah yeah yeah speak about the heist part and just all security part of it the one part that really bothered me is when you've got the first meet of the guy and the girl He comes to her place of work. He's dressed up like a chav. Yeah, Jav. Sarah: [9:33] Jav. Dave: [9:33] Thank you. And he hands her a USB key with proof that he knows what she's been doing. It's the video of her stumbling around the back room, stealing petty cash or stealing some cash out of the deposit envelopes that are locked in the back. And then she just takes the USB key and is going to plug it. Don't plug in a USB key anybody gives you in any computer that you own. Tara: [9:57] No. Dave: [9:57] It's social engineering. It's like, you don't need to crack somebody's computer if they're just going to plug in the USB key and rootkit themselves. Yeah. Anyways, that kind of bothered me from a we don't have an actual consultant on this film perspective. Diatho's watching this going fucking mad right now. Tara: [10:13] Take it to the Apple store. Break their computer. Dave: [10:16] I guess my problem, just to get back to the heist bit and the middle part of it. Tara: [10:19] Yeah. Dave: [10:20] I feel like a good one third of the middle of this movie would have been a leverage the show style montage. and it would have condensed that 40 minutes into about three and you would have gotten that out of it and would have let you have more room for a more interesting finale. Sarah: [10:38] And show more of what the wife is doing, like how that's all gonna work with the Ocean's Eleven recap at the end where it's like, well, let's go over this again and see if Carl Reiner's character actually died. Like, okay, obviously he didn't. Ask me that again, Daniel. But yeah, I mean, the other thing is like the whole middle 15 or 20 minutes just felt like them planting feet, turning to camera and being like, Tara Ariano, please, you know, line about Medicare for all, et cetera, and so on. Tara: [11:14] Yes. Sarah: [11:14] I didn't hate it. They had a good Moppet. You know, bye, Betty. Again, they got me early, and that was very smart. But then they didn't exactly know where to go and they had to have bad guy's wife have a plan already, then tell them what it is off screen and then we didn't get to enjoy seeing it. I liked it a lot, but I don't usually watch this sort of stuff. So like happier living through lowered expectations is real. Tara: [11:45] Well, and it was a movie. It wasn't a show. Dave: [11:48] When you have Peter Serafinowicz as your heel, your capitalist Scrooge. Tara: [11:56] And Lucy Punch as his wife. Dave: [11:57] And Lucy Punch as his wife. I thought that was going to be a lot more fun at the top of the hierarchy there. And it wasn't. He wasn't really doing anything. Tara: [12:05] He didn't get to do anything funny. Yeah. Dave: [12:07] Yeah, it could have been anybody. Could have just been nameless Nigel from Britain. Sarah: [12:12] And he was styled to look like Jeremy Renner, so I kept thinking he was Jeremy Renner from the side. And then she was styled to look like Kelly Riley. So it was just like jamming my pattern rack. Not in a good way. Dave: [12:25] Yeah, so I wanted more out of that couple. And I also kind of question the choice to have a really sick mom with cancer in the drab hospital, multiple scenes in a cheery Christmas rom-com. Like, I don't, again, this whole genre is not really something I gravitate towards. But once I'm there, I realize they have to have a reason why the daughter needs to steal money beyond pounds. I love them. Tara: [12:55] Yes. Dave: [12:55] But I didn't need to see all that in a teary Christmas movie. I know it happens. Cancer is sad, but I don't want it in my Christmas movie. Tara: [13:03] Yes, people can need money for all kinds of reasons. Sarah: [13:06] And also, they would let her go home. She would have the infusion, and then she would go back to her flat. When do they think cancer treatment is happening in this movie? When are we? Tara: [13:16] Yeah. Well, it was cute. I wasn't mad at it. But like I said, Catch Me If You Can is a nearly flawless movie that does this sort of thing so much better. and it's streaming on Paramount Plus. So sign up for it for a week's trial over Christmas. Watch that instead every day. Dave: [13:38] All right, everybody, it's time for the segment we like to call Ask EHG, where you ask us things, we answer them. It's right in the title. Dave: [14:00] All right. It's time to spin the Wheel of Judgment. I will be the judge this week. So says the Wheel. Last week's question came from Diatho. Diatho asked, if a modern streaming service decided to reboot Battle of the Network Stars, kids ask your grandparents, which current TV networks or platforms would field the most entertaining teams and what ridiculous physical or trivia challenges would best showcase today's TV star's strengths or humiliating weaknesses? Easy judgment this week because when I decided to go through the questions earlier, there was one answer. I think there was more after that, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. We have to make our notes sometime and then move on with our lives. So the winner this week, by default, the two sweetest words in the English language is Mr. Adam Grossworth. He of the Grossworth Equalizer Challenge. His answer was this. Change not one single thing about the format, and that is correct. Nor will you change the 70s athletic wear. We want to see some testes. Okay. Prove me wrong. I think I saw Kaplan's testes in that one we watched. Sarah: [15:17] Oh my God, both of them. Dave: [15:19] Apple TV Plus is our first team. Jennifer Aniston, Reese Witherspoon, Billy Crudup, Nicole Beharry. Tara: [15:25] Yep. Dave: [15:26] Rhea Sehorne, Joel Kinnaman in his old age makeup. Seth Rogen, Rose Byrne, Luke McFarlane, Catherine O'Hara, Catherine Hahn versus Disney Plus, Pedro Pascal, Amy Sedaris, Grogu, good get, Olivia Rodrigo, Joshua Bassett, Elizabeth Olsen, Deborah Jo Rupp, Diego Luna, Stellan Skarsgård, Peyton Elizabeth Lee, Dr. Teeth. Oh, thank God. There's Muppets here. Dr. Teeth, Floyd, Janice, and Animal. I mean, we only had one answer as of judgment time, but that was a pretty good one. I would definitely watch that lineup. So Adam Grossworth, you win the sticker set. It was a accelerated ass. We didn't really add half the time people usually have, but people were way too busy just typing in all the dick names that they know people. Dick Sweat was one of them. Sarah: [16:17] We're talking about all that. Dave: [16:18] So people had their priorities and, you know, I acknowledge that and celebrate it. Sarah: [16:23] But we got Pedro Pascal's testes in here and I'm comfortable with the outcome. Dave: [16:28] Did you see that guy's balls? They were weird. Tara: [16:30] They were weird. Dave: [16:30] All right. Let's get into your questions for us this week. First one comes from L Triple B. What kitchen utensil do you wish existed but does not yet exist? Tara. Tara: [16:40] This is something I would use every day. A silicone flipper, like a pancake flipper, that is the size of a small frying, standard small frying pan. Dave: [16:49] Wait, so you want a flipper that's like... Tara: [16:51] It can go all the way under the whole contents of a pan. Dave: [16:55] So like a four-inch flipper, round one. Sarah: [16:57] So a mega spatch. Tara: [16:58] Yes, exactly. Dave: [16:59] Mega spatch. Tara: [17:00] Mega spatch. It doesn't have to be perfectly round. It could have like a flattened out top like they do sometimes. Dave: [17:07] Can we have two stickers and you buy them as a set? One says Chekhov's whore hammer. The other one says Megaspatch. They're sort of the same kind of thing. Tara: [17:17] Yeah. Dave: [17:18] Yeah. Tara: [17:18] All right. Well, that's my answer. Sarah. Sarah: [17:21] Get the 11th for just $1. No, just one penny. Sorry, UHF fans. Okay. You know those Apple core tools that are like hexagons or octagons? Tara: [17:32] Do we? Dave: [17:32] For slicing? Tara: [17:33] Mm-hmm. Sarah: [17:33] Yes, bed coring. We need that, but to de-pith lemons. Maybe this tool exists in some other form, but I want it in that single motion form. So slicing lemons so that you don't get a bunch of pith, fucking everything up, but also so you don't pre-squeeze the lemon in the process and lose half the juice. That would be a boon to me. I would also use that every day, but I would use Megaspatch too. I'm not going to lie. Tara: [18:01] Can I add a P.S. about apple cores? We have a problem with them, which is we buy cheap ones and then they break, oftentimes in Dave's hand. And then he's he's OK. Dave: [18:11] Often was once, but I'm still scarred for life. Tara: [18:13] It's a lot of can you cut an apple for me? Dave: [18:17] I had the apple core and it's over the apple and you press down on it in case somehow you live your life without using one of these. And it goes all through the apple. And then you got eight to 16 slices of delicious apple and no corn. That's fine until the plastic gives way. And then the metal just jams right up into your hand like it was the apple. And you're like, oh, there are three to four spokes of pure metal in my hand right now. And I am bleeding all over the place. And I'm not going to be able to eat that apple now. Tara: [18:48] Anyway, sometimes they break on Dave's hand. Sometimes they just get stuck in the apple and that's it for the slicer. It has to go. So I bought one online that was well recommended by Wirecutter. I think. But I didn't notice that it was, as Dave said, it wasn't an eight piece. It was a 16 piece. This is probably for pies. Dave: [19:07] You now get a 64 piece one. Tara: [19:09] Yes, but I still love to eat those so much more because each one is like a little shard and it takes forever to eat them all. It really feels like you're getting more. Dave: [19:17] You have that cartoon of, it's like a depression scene with Mickey Mouse and Goofy and they're cutting the bean and the bread. And it's just like, I feel like we're gonna get there with the apples where you just slice it and it's just like gossamer apple slices you're like just looking through it for. Sarah: [19:32] The what is that tool that actually does those, Like chip with slices of mandolin. Dave: [19:39] Like that you just run across the blade over and over. Sarah: [19:42] Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Which I keep asking for one for Christmas. And Dan keeps being like, I don't need to see the tendons in your hand. No, use a knife. Dave: [19:51] Just listen to the mandolin apples. Great song. Sarah: [19:56] Mega spatch. Dave: [19:57] All right. Here's my answer. It probably does exist somewhere industrially that you can buy for $600. But I really want a self zester. I had a zester for years. The ones that sort of look like a pair of brass knuckles for a hamster. Tara: [20:11] Yeah. Dave: [20:11] You know, those little ones and you like get three little bits of zest every time you do it. And it skids on top of the skin because it has no cutting power. Tara: [20:18] So frustrating. Dave: [20:19] And it takes three years to zest one half of a lemon or whatever. Tara: [20:22] Yes, it does. Dave: [20:22] Okay. So that's what I used to have back in the day. And then I graduated to the microplane. In fact, I have two microplanes. Sarah, did you send me a microplane about three or four months ago? Was that you from Amazon? Sarah: [20:34] Maybe. Dave: [20:35] Somebody sent me a sec. I already had one, but I think I was talking about microplanes on the show. Sarah: [20:39] I think you were talking about them and then I sent you one like immediately after your birthday. Is that when it arrived? Tara: [20:45] Maybe. Dave: [20:45] Okay. That's probably what I'm thinking of. Okay. So now I have two. That's exactly the same model I have. So good choice. Anyways. So now I got the microplaner for zesting and you can do it a lot faster, which is great, but I kind of want one that just like you stick it on the machine, just twirls and it zests. Cause even with a microplane, it takes too long for zest. like a such a small ingredient feel like it should take that amount of time it's like you got a little little pinch of zest yeah 30 seconds tops not five minutes of zesting, exactly thank you they. Sarah: [21:18] Should have a version of what's that garden tool with the spikes where you just roll it. Dave: [21:22] The garden weasel. Tara: [21:23] Yeah. Sarah: [21:24] So the Lemon Weasel. Dave: [21:26] If you just want to mash the shit out of your life. All right, let's move on. Jovial Gent, what TV real estate property would you have the most difficult time selling? I'm going to go with the Simpsons murder house would be tough. I'm just really bad at selling people on things and just generally talking to people. So probably any house. But if I actually had to convince somebody, although the Flanders is, we're really into it, which is a weird take for them on that one. But Tara, what do you got? Tara: [21:53] I'm a torso. We don't see it until the end of the second episode of It, Welcome to Derry, but the well house on Nybolt Street in Derry, which was built over the remains of the meteor or whatever that Pennywise came to Earth in, it is quite haunted. Dave: [22:10] Wait. Tara: [22:10] Yes. Dave: [22:11] Pennywise came to Earth on a meteor? Tara: [22:13] Yes. Dave: [22:13] He's extraterrestrial? Tara: [22:15] He came from somewhere else. Dave: [22:17] Oh, God. Every time I hear more about the It lore, it just confuses and errages me. Tara: [22:20] This is new. This was only in episode four, the one that also had the horrible eye thing happening. Dave: [22:24] All right, Sarah, what is your real estate property? And please add to Pennywise lore. Tara: [22:30] You don't have to do that. Dave: [22:31] Yeah, you do. Sarah: [22:32] Okay. My real estate property is the Hotel Cortez from American Horror Story. I think on top of it being haunted AF, you have a whole bunch of landmark issues and nobody needs that shit. Tara: [22:45] No. Sarah: [22:45] Especially down in earthquake country. Also, my bit of lore is that after arriving on Earth via a meteor, Pennywise lived in the San Andreas Fault. Dave: [22:57] I just wrote one. Pennywise founded the IRS. Sarah: [23:02] Pennywise had a writer in his contract insisting that all red M&Ms be removed from the bowl. Dave: [23:09] Damon asks, what's your favorite TV Chekhov's object that isn't a gun? Tara. Tara: [23:14] It's the glass of fat in the Friends episode, the one where no one's ready, where at the end someone is challenged to drink it as a punishment, and Ross almost does, but then Rachel stops him just in the nick of time. Dave? Dave: [23:27] Yeah, I'm going to shit on this one with a terrible answer. I'd rather scrub my brain of the idea of Chekhov's gun than actually think of Chekhov guns, because here's the thing. It's rare that creators go to the lengths I want to mix in the Chekhov's gun with other things so that it is present in Act 1 without it being a big, I'll be back in Act 3 neon sign. I don't want the Chekhov's gun to be the Wilhelm scream of screenwriting. You know, like, oh, there it is. That's that thing. You got to introduce something. I get it. But don't make it so obvious. Like, I just don't understand why they do that. It bothers me. Tara: [24:04] But when they don't pay it off, like in the movie Ballerina, that also bothers you. She wasn't killing anyone with ballet moves. Dave: [24:11] Well, it's not really Chekhov's gun, but that's more setting something. Tara: [24:14] Well, there's a whole Chekhov routine where she's like doing the spin until her feet lean. Dave: [24:18] Chekhov's moves. Tara: [24:19] Never comes back, yeah. Dave: [24:20] Yeah, she should have cracked about four necks with ballerina moves in that movie. Tara: [24:24] She totally should have. Dave: [24:25] All right, so Sarah, what's your actual answer for this? Sarah: [24:28] Mine is replacing Chekhov's gun with pregnant woman on the elevator as a phraseology. Because it's time to free Chekhov from this hell. Tara: [24:38] That's true. Let him rest. Dave: [24:41] Elsbeth, if you're still doing Dave's words, what would you challenge him to say? I hate this question. Sarah? Sarah: [24:49] Colposcopically. Dave: [24:50] Colposcopically. Sarah: [24:52] Colposcopy. Colposcopy. Examination of the cervix, but L-Y. Colposcopically. Colposcopically. A lot of P's and S's. He'll hate it. Dave: [25:01] Tara. Tara: [25:02] I wouldn't. I love Dave. Dave: [25:04] Thank you, Tara. Tara: [25:05] Dave. Sarah: [25:06] Oh, okay. Dave: [25:06] Please, no. No more Dave word questions. It's not coming back. I'm too self-conscious about this now. I can't deal with it. No. Tara: [25:15] Let Dave live. Dave: [25:16] Let me live my life. Sarah: [25:18] No. Dave: [25:19] Mopsuchus. Sarah: [25:20] No, no. Dave: [25:20] If someone gives you the same gift every year because they mistakenly think you like it, do you say thank you every year because it's the thought that counts? Or at some point, do you tell them your true feelings because you hate the thought of them putting effort or money into something you immediately jettison into the nearest dumpster? You, my friend, need a mutual third party to tell them this piece of news. That is the solution for you. Sarah: [25:44] Yeah, I am surprised that Dave did not title this or his answer, the coffee crisp conundrum. I mean, the thing is, there's a lot of variables here. How much did it cost? Can you give it away or upcycle it? How close are you with this person that they haven't figured out that they never see you wearing it or in the background on a Zoom call in your home? I personally have not had good luck with the gently truthful, you know, I don't think I need any more cat themed stuff this year angle. it turns into capital a a whole thing so if they seem legitimately oblivious to the fact that you don't like it and it just is i don't care for it and not that it's offensive or like a lethal allergen thank them warmly for thinking of you and dumpsteroo this time of year is hard enough without adding to your like diplomatic chore list did. Dave: [26:37] You say dumpsteroo yep. Sarah: [26:39] Dumpsteroo i love that Yeah. Tara: [26:43] Similarly, I would say someone who would do this to me is someone who doesn't know me well, so I probably would not bother to risk the social awkwardness of making it a thing unless it was a thing I could not give away to someone who might want it. Like if it has no goodwill value, if I truly am just putting in the dumpster, then I would probably, you know, figure out a way to say I'm all good on this or my collection is full or I still have the one from last year or whatever. But, you know, if it's something that someone will like, then I can just pass it on to goodwill. It's so close. Dave: [27:15] All right. Jovial Gent is back. What is a game time subject you feel you would easily win? Tara, all of them. Sarah: [27:23] Try to narrow down. Tara: [27:25] If someone tried to tube tunes me, I think I would do well because my antenna is always up for original songs on TV from having done tube tunes five billion times. So that. Sarah. Sarah: [27:35] True crime miniseries, maybe. But as we all know, the best way to jinx Buncey is to announce that the topic is cinchy or that the picky order has smiled upon her. How jinxy is it? Talking about myself in the third person. Unacceptable. Dave. Dave: [27:54] 70s cartoons, probably. 80s garbage, definitely. I would say Star Wars, but Star Wars TV, trying to forget about most of it. So probably wouldn't do great if it was spread across the spectrum. Sarah: [28:07] Obi-Wan, why? Tara: [28:08] Other than Andor, I don't think you have any interest in rewatching any of it. Dave: [28:12] No, no. Next question is from Ellen F. What's the TV show you think you've seen the most times? Sarah: [28:20] In its entirety, my so-called life probably. But like by volume, law and order. If. Dave: [28:28] I think probably Simpsons by a long shot. There was a time in Southern Ontario where you can watch five episodes a night between like the Toronto stations and the Buffalo stations and having national and local stations. Five on a weekday. And if it was like on a weekend when they're actually showing new episodes and you get like six or seven, depending on how it rolled out. So for a decade, at least, I would watch that many episodes a day usually. So definitely by volume, Simpsons. Tara: [28:55] Yeah, Friends is the true and boring answer. simpsons is almost as boring but that's probably second most i'm going to say fourth on the list futurama is probably under simpsons too i've watched that a lot but kids in the hall is probably one that i talk about less. Dave: [29:10] Portland Orc the First, what is your signature emoji? I want to see if Tara can guess what my signature emoji is. Tara: [29:21] Well, there was the avocado stickers that you used to. Dave: [29:24] Well, that's not an emoji. Tara: [29:25] No, I know. I miss those guys. They were really cute. Dave: [29:28] I still have them. I still got them on my phone. Tara: [29:31] I'm trying to, I'm racking my brain. Sarah: [29:33] I mean, it's- I think it's the red sweary one. Dave: [29:36] The red sweary? No. Sarah: [29:38] No? Okay. Should we all guess each other's? Dave: [29:40] Let's do that all right guess is tara yeah. Tara: [29:44] You do the wind's face sometimes. Dave: [29:46] Yeah i do use a grimace a lot but that's not the one okay okay my favorite one in the one i i think i employ the most or has the most utility for me yeah is the female shrug one and it has to be the female and it has to be the apple version because the apple version has more like i don't know what the fuck you're on about pose right the one that discord just feels more like a hieroglyph or something like that it It doesn't really have attitude. Sarah: [30:11] Well, or like the bottom level of a cheer amid. Tara: [30:14] Yeah. Dave: [30:15] Yeah. Sarah: [30:15] It's too flat. It's too flat. The Apple one is like, I don't know, like shoulders and ears. Yeah. Dave: [30:21] The Apple one's like. Tara: [30:22] Yeah. I think Sarah and I might have the same one. Dave: [30:25] Okay, wait. All right. Who's next? Tara: [30:27] Me. Dave: [30:27] Tara's next. Okay. Tara's emoji is the face with one eyebrow going up. Tara: [30:32] I like that one. That's not what I said. Sarah: [30:34] No, okay. Yeah, no, I think it's either eye roll or grimace. Tara: [30:39] I put salute. Dave: [30:41] Oh, yeah. Tara: [30:41] I use in place of a thumbs up a lot. Dave: [30:43] I don't like the salute one because they cut it in half. Sarah: [30:46] I do use salute a lot also. Dave: [30:47] I feel like an emoji, you should have the whole emoji in frame. Tara: [30:52] Yeah. Dave: [30:52] If you have to cut it off as if there was an invisible frame, I don't think you're capturing the spirit of the emoji. And not all salute ones do that, but the apple one does. Tara: [31:01] Yeah, that's what I thought Sarah might do, but my backup, if it's not that, is like the drunk face. Dave: [31:06] Oh, for Sarah? Tara: [31:07] The smile is like, yeah. Dave: [31:11] Sarah's. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, spiritually, I would say the middle finger. We had spirit emojis. Tara: [31:19] Yeah. Sarah: [31:20] I mean, but spiritually, it's the drunk face. I had grimace for myself, but I think I do use salute and eye roll as often, if not more. Dave: [31:29] Last question for us comes from Ridzi. It is a surprise question, guys. It wasn't on the list, but I just added it. Tara: [31:35] Oh, shit. Dave: [31:35] All right, so here's the question. The concept of the moist maker, yay or nay? Let's go around the horn. Tara, yay or nay? Tara: [31:43] I don't love a super wet sandwich, so I'm happy for other people to have it, but I do not care to have it myself. And Sarah doesn't have wet sandwiches, or she doesn't have meat sandwiches, so I'm going to say that's not part of her ministry at all. Dave: [31:56] I don't know. She's right here. She can answer. Sarah: [31:58] It contains the word moist. Obviously, I am out. Dave: [32:01] Okay. All right. It's a friend's thing. It's like a turkey sandwich, right? Tara: [32:04] Yeah. It's a gravy-soaked piece of bread in the middle of a turkey sandwich. Dave: [32:07] All right. The name moist maker, yay or nay? Tara: [32:10] Nay. Dave: [32:11] No? Sarah: [32:11] Nay. Dave: [32:12] I think as a comedy bit, I quite like it. Tara: [32:14] Oh, sure. Yes. Dave: [32:15] But in real life, absolutely not. All right. Alternative name for a moist maker, if any. Tara: [32:21] The problem is any word that you come up with that has the sense of like makes sandwich wet is going to be disgusting. Sarah: [32:29] Yeah, but just play off gravy then. Tara: [32:32] Yeah. Sarah: [32:33] Gravy heart. Tara: [32:34] The gravenator. Sarah: [32:34] Grave heart. Tara: [32:35] Grave heart. That's good. Dave: [32:38] I'm going to go with I think you should leave sloppy steaks. Tara: [32:42] Okay. Sarah: [32:44] Enough. I'm so sick and. Dave: [32:46] Tired of hearing you people talk about food, food, food. All right. I'm pulling an audible for Ask Ask EHG. Give us the best piece of Pennywise lore you know. Sarah: [32:57] At risk. Dave: [32:58] I don't care if it's real or not. That is your Ask Ask EHG task for this week. Go to our Discord. There's an Ask Ask EHG channel there where you can plop your stuff. And we'll be back sometime in the future with Judgment. Dave: [33:49] For the tiny food canon this week i will be presenting breaking bad's season five episode two's dressing innovation is half french is half ranch it's french it's the start of a very dark scene but when it starts it's really funny i was absolutely pleased with the presentation of this little dollop of french dressing which looks like a strawberry swirl candy if it was in dressing form it is not all pink it has layers of whatever that is orangey red and off-white dressings it sounds absolutely disgusting i would not have it anywhere near my lips i could because i hate french dressing it's not the ranch part of it i'm not a big ranch fan but that part of it Breaking Bad, you know, when we think back on it now, we think about the journey of Walter White and how we turned into this monster of a man and how dark it got. And we just often overlook how many moments of pure comedy there was in this show and how many just off the wall digressions they would make. Suddenly you're in another country. Suddenly you're with people you've never seen before. Suddenly you're in a testing lab where this guy's dipping hash browns into honey mustard sauce. and then whatever that was when the vinegar one and then the ketchup and then French dressing. Sarah: [35:13] And Gajun Kikas. Dave: [35:16] And I've just tickled pink by the idea of French dressing. And it always stuck with me. So I was thinking about I wanted to put some food item up. And that was the first one that came to mind. My argument isn't very complicated. It's a funny bit of hybrid dresserization that I enjoyed. And the fact that it actually is the lead-in to some guy killing himself makes it even weirder. All right. That's it. That's all I got. Who wants to go first? Tara: [35:43] Sarah, why don't you go first? Sarah: [35:44] Dave cut the clip right before the tester without comment. moves on to the Cajun kick-ass, which the testing intro guy who has just given us our explanation of French is clearly like, oh, you know, we're quite happy with how it turned out. And he's been talking about like high fructose corn syrup, reishi-y and whatnot. And French is clearly the jewel in this crown of dressing blobules on a transparent glass serving surface. So he has to regroup and move on to Gägen Kekas, which, I mean, Germans deliver us. All of my people are German, basically, so I have the right to say that. But this really was a good reminder, as Dave said as well, that Breaking Bad and to a greater extent Better Call Saul, it was like more consistently funny or there was going to be more humor in the dark humor. But Breaking Bad so often was up on this tightrope of like, we're laughing now, but someone's about to get dead. I'm almost positive. And even in these little sort of relaxing food science scenes, you can never relax, especially if somebody is consuming something. thing because we all know how that went for jesse's poor lady friend so. Dave: [37:03] Did you watch breaking bad originally sarah all the way through were you watching did you remember how this guy expires in the scene after this because i forgot and i watched that whole scene again i'm like oh fuck that's nasty he takes a defibrillator and sticks a wire right in his mouth and charges it and Wow. Yikes. Tara: [37:24] Yeah. Dave: [37:24] No more French for him. Sarah: [37:25] Okay. Well, but at least it was not the doing of French, which I, as an institutional starch aficionado, would absolutely at least try with some tater tots. And Dave, get your belly right or die. That sounds delicious. With tots. Dave: [37:42] What's in French dressing? I'm going to look it up while you proceed. There's something in it I don't like. Sarah: [37:47] I always run into difficulty distinguishing French, the Catalina, which is close to French, I think, and then Thousand Island and Russian. I think it's the beiger ones. Dave: [37:59] French dressing is a creamy salad dressing in American cuisine based on oil, vinegar, tomato, sugar, and finely chopped ingredients. Tara: [38:08] Yeah, so it's like a version of ketchup. It's like sweeter ketchup. Dave: [38:11] Sweeter, runnier, sweeter ketchup. It exists on a spectrum between Russian and Catalina dressing. Sarah: [38:16] Catalina, good on a taco salad, AMA. Tara: [38:19] Yeah. Sarah: [38:19] I know you're sick of hearing us talk about food, food, food. I had completely forgotten about this scene. And as usual in a Gilligan show, the way it's shot. It's like so beautiful for such a kind of dowdy idea of something. It's like reading John McPhee in The New Yorker talking about those giant tanks of like strawberry flavoring by the highway in Edison, New Jersey that you're like, this almost sounds wonderful instead of like the death of humanity. Dave: [38:45] You know what it feels like to me? It feels like the salad dressing version of the bean sculpture in Chicago. You're like, why is this here? Why is it so beautiful and shiny and perfect? because it is X, a bean, or a dollop of salad dressing. And I feel the same way about them. Tara: [39:02] Yeah. Sarah: [39:02] That we're still talking about this is really quite a testament to this tiny little scene. And so, yeah, over to you, Tara. Tara: [39:10] Yeah, I love that at the beginning, you can't tell if the executive is concentrating or dissociating until it goes on. And then he's just like shoveling plain hash browns into his mouth and like, oh, okay, this guy is in a crisis. this but um french is a perfect name the the bi-color shot of it after he's swiped the hash brown in it when you sort of see it's like whatever they've used to to put this onto the display tray it's like some kind of like a toothpaste tube where it's it's exactly perfectly all the red surrounds the white so like the swipe like sarah said it is beautiful it looks so appetizing the The scene is perfect, except that it makes me ask myself why I am not in a job where I'm served a fishbowl of hash brown bites every day, because it feels like it should be my destiny. Dave: [39:58] Didn't Heinz come up with a French dressing? Because they had those like combo ones, like. oh yeah mayo and stuff like that i feel like france was one of them yeah could be shall we put this to the vote sure sarah d bunting uh france auf. Sarah: [40:11] Deutsch yeah yeah. Tara: [40:14] For me as well. Dave: [40:16] Okay so france from breaking bad you are hereby inducted into the extra hot great tiny food canon. Tara: [40:34] I love the mustard, as it were, that you're putting on this franche. It's just, it's French. French and ranch. French. Dave: [40:40] I just like, because. Tara: [40:42] Because that's how he says it. Sarah: [40:43] Auf Deutsch. French. Dave: [40:44] No, it's because when I speak as Knowlton Nash, one of our dogs, one of his vocabulary words that he likes to pull out every time there's something crunchy that he will be eating is, oh, damn, I love the crunch. So franche and crunch rhyme. So my brain just said it that way. Oh, boy. That's really got that crunch. not quite winner of the week for me is bell medias that's canada gay hockey romance series heated rivalry selling to hbo max in the u.s and australia and boy are the discord people excited about this one yeah i tells you yeah it's a whole genre hockey romance is a whole genre and now we got gay hockey romance which i feel like it's the first one out of the gate as far as tv shows of hockey romance go. Tara: [41:29] Mm-hmm. Dave: [41:30] Yeah. Tara: [41:30] Yeah. Dave: [41:30] All right. Tara: [41:31] I'll be watching. It's coming in this month, I think. Dave: [41:33] Yeah. I would have called it homostictual. Tara: [41:36] What? Dave: [41:38] Or not. Loser John Mulaney called out on today's show by his wife, Olivia Munn, for proposing marriage to her in front of a no diarrhea sign. I mean, it was a no diarrhea song. It wasn't a lots of diarrhea song. Sarah: [41:57] Seriously. And you did say yes, so who's the problem here, Liv? Dave: [42:03] All right, that's all I got. Sarah: [42:04] Sarah, my winner is Task. Dave: [42:07] Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. Sarah: [42:11] Force, which has been renewed for a second season HBO. Mark Ruffalo will be back. That also was like really bleak and dark, but no harm came to any livestock in that one. And I am like, I don't see how they're going to do it, but I'm glad they're going to try. Tara: [42:28] Mention of livestock being harmed again. Reference to next week's episode. Stay tuned. Recording on order. Dave: [42:34] Yeah. We have stopped trying to pretend that we can keep track of it. It's like fucking memento up here. Sarah: [42:42] I don't know. When are we? My constant complaint and also actual plaint. My not quite loser this week. Losers are Bill Belichick and child future bride Jordan Hudson, the first subject of Out of Bounds, Vice TV's forthcoming doc series about sports controversies, and also not even secondarily Vice TV for making yet another series about sports controversies. We have 30 for 30. We have the Netflix version. We don't really need another one, but credit for starting with this one, because people will absolutely watch it, including me. So maybe I'm the loser. Dave: [43:23] Two things. One, I would have put good money that Vice went out of business. I thought they were gone. Tara: [43:28] They were in bankruptcy at some point, but I guess whatever. Who knows? Dave: [43:32] And two, Vice feels like the kind of operation that would have done a series just because called 31 for 31, just to show them up. Tara: [43:40] Sure. Sarah: [43:41] Yeah. Dave: [43:42] All right. Tara, do not believe her lies. Tara: [43:45] What? Dave: [43:46] Memento reference. Tara: [43:47] Hilarious my not quite winner of the week is the simpsons which is getting a dedicated channel on disney plus streaming every episode in order 24 7 so if you fire it up it's whatever's on and you just park it and watch it if it's a an era that you like and i just think it's funny how all of the streaming platforms are gradually you know it's like the joke about silicon valley every few years like reinvents the bus this is like every few years streaming platforms reinvent cable because this is just a marathon much as like you know the pit was seen to be this amazing groundbreaking thing it's like no this is a show that airs an episode every week at the same time at night this is what tv used to be yeah anyway it's. Sarah: [44:34] 24 at the er come on. Tara: [44:36] My not quite loser of the week is kim kardashian who was uh damned with faint praise by her co-star on all's fair glenn close who said in an interview that kardashian always knew her lines wow a burr i mean if that's the best you can say about her that's better than saying i wish she always knew her lines but still the bar is on the floor ryan murphy yeah. Dave: [45:02] All right everybody get ready for kimbree's the most awesome thing i watched on tv last month. Kim: [45:13] Hi, this is Kim Reid, and welcome to the most awesome thing I saw on TV last month. Last month, I watched Good Time Season 4, Episode 9, Grandpa's Visit. If you know anything about me, you know that I think this show has the greatest theme song of all time, and it's not close. And as a result, I think the skip credits button should be disabled when watching this show. Like, I'm mad that it even popped up on my screen. But anyway, we open on Florida in the Kitchen as JJ and Thelma enter arguing. Seems JJ borrowed Thelma's radio and ran down the batteries. Remember radios that ran on batteries and how amazing it was that you could just go anywhere and take your radio with you? As long as the batteries didn't run out? Anyway, JJ claims he had to play music for his new girlfriend, Lulu. And Thelma makes fun of him for dating big, fat Lulu, which, come on, Thelma, enough with the body shaming. But that wasn't a thing in the 70s, so I'll let it slide. JJ says Lulu isn't fat. She's just, snap, a whole lot of women. And Thelma says, yeah, about three of them. And the studio audience laughs and laughs. And then Thelma and JJ argue back and forth about who dates uglier people for a while. And then Florida tells them to stop arguing because she's glad that they're both dating these people. But then she adds, I mean, somebody has to, and then dies laughing at herself. And I've never related to Florida more. Kim: [46:24] Florida asked the kids to help her get ready because they're having Thanksgiving dinner tomorrow. They're waiting for their grandfather to show up. I didn't know this on first viewing, but I did some research. And in the previous season, there was an episode where Thelma found her dad's father working on a ship as a cook and brought him home to surprise her dad. But it was awkward because Grandpa walked out on the family when James was young, but then they talked it out and James forgave his dad. And also, at the beginning of this season, James died because the actor got fired, which is a whole E! True Hollywood story. But it's nice that the grandfather's trying to stay in touch with his grandkids, I guess. Florida says Grandpa's taking the bus all the way from New. Kim: [47:01] Anyway, then Michael comes out with a face full of shaving cream for no apparent reason, and JJ jokes that he has rabies. I feel like frothing at the mouth due to rabies jokes were much more common in the 70s and 80s than they are today. I can't think of the last time I've heard or seen one. You know what else I was thinking about the other day? And I know I sound like Andy Rooney, but just stick with me. You never hear about any more rubber cement. Whatever happened to rubber cement? The only time I ever encounter it these days is when I get a new credit card or something, and then I have to roll up the little ball of cement and throw it out. Not sure what I used rubber cement for, but remember how it came in that jar and then the brush was attached to the center of the lid? It was very satisfying. Anyway, back to the show. Michael says he has to shave and Florida wonders why, since he doesn't have a beard. And Michael says Eleanor Wilson said that he gave her beard burn and Florida just chuckles. Why is the first five minutes of this episode all about how the Evans kids are getting laid? Weird. Kim: [47:53] Then Thelma wonders where Grandpa's going to sleep. Like, you'd think they would have figured this out before the day he's supposed to arrive. JJ tries valiantly to get the master bedroom to himself, and somehow Florida lays out how it's going to go, which makes me realize they only have two bedrooms and a sofa bed, so maybe Michael and JJ normally share the sofa bed? There's a knock at the door, and the kids are all excited because they think it's their grandfather, but it's Wilona. They should be more excited because Wilona's the best. Anyway, she's brought a bunch of pots and pans upstairs for Florida to use to make dinner, and then she just leaves. And once she's gone, JJ starts checking out the turkey and does this extended bit where He acts like he and the turkey are going to box each other, complete with a Muhammad Ali impersonation. Sometimes I think the script just said, let Jimmy Walker cook for a while, and then they got like five minutes out of it. Kim: [48:38] There's another knock at the door and the kids are so excited. I've never seen teenagers so excited to see a relative who wasn't about to give them money. Michael literally leaps into the air. Anyway, this time it actually is their grandfather and he goes over and gives Florida a hug and they embrace for a long time. And then there's the patented Good Times complete change in tone where Florida looks really sad and then says, I miss him so much. I'm like, I get it. But is that how you greet the guy after he just got off a bus from halfway across the country? And also, how did the fact that this must be the first Thanksgiving since James died never get mentioned or alluded to until now? Grandpa's name is Henry, and Henry tells them that he's retired from his job as a cook on a ship, and now he's just cooking a few days a week in a diner. Kim: [49:19] After Henry and Michael go off to get him settled in his room, there's another knock at the door, and this older lady walks in and just says, Hi, I'm Lena, and Florida's like, Excuse me, do I know you? And Lena's like, Yeah, I had to stop off to see my sister, but isn't Tiger Evans here? And of course, J.J. thinks Tiger Evans means him, but she clarifies that she means Henry Evans. And then Henry comes out of the bedroom, and he and Lena share a long embrace. She's also carrying a suitcase, and I'm not sure where everyone's going to sleep now, but it's not my problem. Kim: [49:48] Henry explains that Lena came up from New Orleans with him because she also has family in Chicago. And in fact, she just went to visit her sister. That visit must have been like 10 minutes long. Maybe she doesn't like her sister that much. So then Lena says, you know, I'd like to get unpacked. Can you show me our room? And Florida's like, you're staying here? But she doesn't say it out loud, but you can see her saying it in her head. Once Lena's gone, Florida teases Henry and calls him an old rascal and says, when did you all get married? And Henry says, oh, we ain't married. And Florida's like, oh, no. And I'm so old that I literally forgot that it might be an issue that they're sleeping in the same room, but they aren't married. Like, no one would bat an eye on television today unless it was supposed to be like a super religious family or something, which I guess Florida was. But this would not be a storyline in most TV shows nowadays, especially when it's old people and not teenagers. The next day, Florida's getting dinner ready, and she's clearly pissed off and flustered. But Thelma and JJ don't see what the big deal is. I'm more concerned about the fact that the turkey isn't even in the oven yet. It's clearly like mid-morning. Thelma wants Florida to talk about what's bothering her and guesses that it's grandpa and his girlfriend staying together. Florida says it bothers her because they're not married. And JJ honestly has a good point when he says, but Ma, they're old and maybe they got married and they forgot. Kim: [50:58] Wilona shows up with a jello mold instead of the mincemeat pie she promised, but Florida's got bigger problems to worry about. She tells Wilona that Henry didn't arrive alone, and Wilona's so excited about this gossip that she almost runs into the bedroom to see who Henry brought. Henry finally comes out of his bedroom, and there's this whole thing about how hungry he is, which somehow has sexual connotations. And then Lena comes out in her house coat, like, girl, when you're a guest for the first time, maybe get dressed before you come out for the day. But then she says she's also hungry, and now everybody's all upset. Kim: [51:28] Lena and Henry then make some jokes about how he's an old dog who doesn't need to learn new tricks, and Florida's so disgusted that she finally confronts them and says they got a lot of nerve. Lena says Florida doesn't need to worry because she and Henry love each other very much, and Florida wonders why they don't just get married then. I don't know why it's Florida's business, honestly. But then I realize, oh, this is to introduce the social issue of the episode, which is that Henry and Lena can't afford to get married because then they would both lose part of the Social Security. Thelma can't believe the government penalizes senior citizens that way, which is Thelma new to the government, and Florida's not convinced that that means they shouldn't get married anyway. Walona says it's not like they're doing anything with each other because they're both in their 60s, and then Henry and Lena have to defend the fact that they still have an active sex life, which this episode is taking a very strange turn. Florida says that there's right and there's wrong, and then Henry gives a lovely speech about all the ways in which He spends his life with Lena, and they love each other, and that can't be wrong. Florida's frustrated that nobody seems to be on her side, and Wilona pulls her aside to discuss it, except then Wilona runs out the door so she doesn't have to discuss it, and then the kids leave to go to a football game, and Henry tells Florida that he thinks he and Lena should just leave tonight instead of staying there again. Florida wants him to stay for Thanksgiving dinner, but Henry thinks it would be too awkward. Henry didn't seem super mad about it, but Florida feels bad and like she ruined Thanksgiving, which she totally did. Kim: [52:48] Later, the kids get home from the football game while Florida and Malone are putting the dinner on the table. I'm impressed that Florida managed to cook an 18-pound turkey in like two hours, which doesn't seem possible. I haven't cooked that many turkeys, but I do remember my mom having to get up at the crack of dawn to put the turkey in the oven, so it seems like it should have been more than a couple of hours. Kim: [53:06] Bella asks where Grandpa and Lena are, and Florida says they decided to leave and she couldn't talk him into staying, which isn't quite how it went down. Florida and Malone sit down to eat and they start cracking jokes, but the kids look sad and won't sit down at the table. until Florida orders them to sit down. Florida tells J.J. to give the blessing, and he thanks God for the beautiful table they have to sit at, even though Lena and Grandpa are at the bus station eating cold sandwiches in the hour before their bus leaves. Florida ignores him and starts passing the food around, but Michael asks to be excused and says he ate too much at the football game and he wants to go walk it off. Bellman and J.J. catch on and run out the door with him. Florida wants Malona to tell her that she did the right thing, and Malona kind of talks around it for a while until Florida realizes that she might have done the right thing, but it wasn't worth it, and she heads out the door. When she's alone, Walona says, well, this is just like every other Thursday night, me and a turkey. I love Walona so much. The kids arrive at the bus station and find Lena and Grandpa and say they wanted to give them a hug goodbye. J.J. apologizes for his mother and says sometimes she can be stubborn, and then Florida shows up behind him and says, and sometimes she can be a darn fool. Florida tells Henry and Lena that she's got a big Thanksgiving dinner waiting for them. And Henry says they couldn't. But Florida says that she's realized that it's their life, not hers. And their room is waiting for them. Lena is psyched, probably because this means she doesn't have to spend 23 hours on a bus back to New Orleans immediately. Kim: [54:27] JJ wonders if these new relaxed bed rules also apply to him. And Florida says they only apply to people on Social Security. And that's the most awesome thing I saw on TV last month. Tara: [54:48] Welcome in grandpas do you know what time it is is. Dave: [54:51] It surprise game time. Tara: [54:53] It's surprise game time holy fucking. Dave: [54:55] Shit We'll be right back. Tara: [55:09] Dear listener you have so many episodes to look forward to that we have pre-taped for you but this is the last extra, extra hot great that we are recording. And so I thought I would give my co-panelists the gift of not having to prepare anything. This is Wrapping Paper Tunes. Sarah: [55:25] Thanks, Tara. Tara: [55:26] You both know how this goes by now. But for new listeners, I'm going to play an original winter holiday song from television. If that's all you need to identify it, you get two points. If you need a hint, I'll give you an actor from the show, and then it's worth one point. The winner gets a festive prize from me. There is only 10 questions, so we're going to breeze right through it, or 10 clips, rather. Are you both ready to play Wrapping Paper 2 Tunes? Can you guess at every level? Dave: [55:54] Yes, you can. I have a question. Tara: [55:57] Yes. Dave: [55:57] Can Sarah ask a question? Tara: [55:58] Yes. Sarah, what's your question? Sarah: [56:02] Why is Dave like this? Tara: [56:04] Dumb! Sarah: [56:06] Also, can I guess at any level? Tara: [56:07] Yes. And there will be no, we're just going to play straight through no equalizer zones or any of that other jazz. All right, let's turn to picky to see who's going first. Dave: [56:16] No, no, no, no, no, absolutely not. Sarah: [56:20] Never the wrong one. Tara: [56:22] We will start with Sarah. We will start with Sarah. So Sarah, you're on odds. Dave, you're on evens. Let's go. Dave, please play clip number one for Sarah. Now, if you were really listening, there's a few context clues in that one. I gave you easy ones to start with. Sarah: [57:01] Sesame Street? Dave: [57:03] What the fuck is happening right now? Tara: [57:06] Do you want to hear the clip again? Sarah: [57:08] I mean... Dave: [57:09] I think you do. I think you should. Sarah: [57:11] All right. It's everybody. Tara: [57:22] Sarah, what did you mean to say? Sarah: [57:25] What I meant to say was Pee-wee's Playhouse. Tara: [57:28] That's correct for two points. Sarah: [57:30] A me street. Tara: [57:31] Clip two is for Dave. Oh, me, ball of Verduk. Dave: [57:40] Such pizza. That's, uh, I'm trying to place the episode, but I know it's 30 Rock. Tara: [57:49] It is 30 Rock. That's good for two points. Dave: [57:51] The Verdukians. Tara: [57:52] Yes. It's the, where they're trying to get out of secret Santa by pretending they don't celebrate Christmas. They are Verdukians. All right. Clip three is for Sarah. Sarah. Dave: [58:25] Jesus it's not no. Sarah: [58:27] No hints um is this benson just kidding that sounds like phoebe so i will guess friends it. Tara: [58:35] Is friends good for two points dave. Dave: [58:37] Clip four is for you okay We're going down to one town, one town. Tara: [58:55] We're going down to kwanzaa town were the lyrics if you couldn't make them out. Dave: [58:59] Oh is that what it was yes oh i don't know it doesn't ring a bell at all going down to kwanzaa town uh i think i'll need the hint your. Tara: [59:08] Hint is basheer salaudi. Dave: [59:10] Oh fuck all right so i'm gonna guess you're not gonna give me sherman's showcase or whatever that was but maybe you will but i'm gonna guess that this is outside it is outside good. Tara: [59:23] For one point clip five is for sarah. Sarah: [59:56] Uh i feel like i just heard this for whatever reason but i will need a hint your. Tara: [1:00:02] Hint is anthony star. Sarah: [1:00:06] Uh the boys the. Tara: [1:00:07] Boys is correct for one point for dave clip six. Dave: [1:00:11] Okay santa fought at woodstock and vietnam and. Sarah: [1:00:26] His hair stayed long And he grew a mustache Baby Boomer Santa He's gonna stay alive Ha, ha, ha Santa. Dave: [1:00:42] Jesus This is just a guess because of the way the song is structured I don't remember it at all But my best guess Is Bob's Burgers. Tara: [1:00:53] Your hint is Gillian Jacobs. Dave: [1:00:56] Oh, Community? Tara: [1:00:57] Community is correct for one point. Sarah: [1:00:58] Wow. Dave: [1:00:59] But that sounds like a Bob's Burgers. You know where they switch it and they're just like, now we're just going to talk over the song because it takes too long to do it properly. Tara: [1:01:06] Yes. Well, the premise of this song is it's Troy and Abed trying to convince Pierce to join the Glee Club by doing a whole like baby boomer, like going through all of history and music, etc. All right. Clip seven is for Sarah. Sometimes he's nutty. Sometimes he's corny. He can be brown or greenish brown. But. Sarah: [1:01:36] Therefore, vicariously, he loves you. I can make him Mr. Hanky, too. I forgot that song was actually pretty peppy. South Park. Tara: [1:01:46] That is good for two points. Clip eight is for Dave, and then you will each have one left. We can do a quick score break. Dave: [1:02:21] I have no idea what that is. The interruptions sound like back from Futurama. So I'm just going to say Futurama. I know it's not from that episode, but maybe it came back later. I was thinking. Tara: [1:02:32] No, this is something we tried to watch, and then I think we watched the song, and then we turned it off. Your hint is Chris Pratt. Dave: [1:02:38] Chris Pratt? Wait, we tried to watch the show, then we turned it off during this song? Tara: [1:02:43] Yes. No, we watched this whole song, and then we're like, I think I'm good on this. Dave: [1:02:47] Chris Pratt? What the fuck was Chris? Okay, it's not that movie where the aliens come and shoot everything. Probably. Terminal Man or whatever the fuck that was. Tara: [1:02:56] Oh, yeah. Dave: [1:02:59] Chris Pratt. What the fuck? Oh, is this... Wait, is this the Marvel Christmas special? Tara: [1:03:07] Can you be more specific? Dave: [1:03:09] Yeah, I'm trying to remember the title. The Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas special? Tara: [1:03:13] It's holiday special, but I'll give you that. Good for one point. Let's hear... Dave: [1:03:17] Jesus is the reason for the season. Tara: [1:03:19] Well, let's hear the scores. Dave: [1:03:21] All right. Let's hear the scores, Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah: [1:03:25] David T. Cole has five and I have seven points. Tara: [1:03:30] Oh, damn. Let's hear clip nine for Sarah. Sarah: [1:04:09] I have absolutely no idea. Could I have a hint? Tara: [1:04:14] Your hint is a star of this show was Dana Carvey. Sarah: [1:04:21] Saturday Night Live? Tara: [1:04:23] It is Saturday Night Live. Sarah: [1:04:25] All right. Tara: [1:04:26] Let's hear Dave's last clip, number 10. Oops, oh no. Jesus' birthday's on Christmas. Ho. Dave: [1:04:40] Both. Ho, ho, no. What the fuck? I gotta listen to that again. Tara: [1:04:47] Okay. Sarah: [1:04:49] Oops, oh no. Jesus' birthday's on Christmas. Ho. Dave: [1:04:57] Xbox and hears it's for both. Oh! I feel very old. Is it Girls 5 ever? Tara: [1:05:04] Yes! Good for two points. Sarah: [1:05:07] I think I just heard Elise. Dave: [1:05:09] Whatever her name is. Tara: [1:05:10] Renee Elise Goldsberry. All right, let's hear the scores. Dave: [1:05:13] All right, let's hear the scores. Hey, everybody. Sarah: [1:05:16] It was very close, but David T. Cole finished with seven, and I finished victorious with eight. Tara: [1:05:22] Oh, boy. Nicely done. Do you guys want to hear the tiebreaker just for funsies? Dave: [1:05:26] Sure. Sarah: [1:05:27] Sure. Dave: [1:05:27] All right. What's that stake? Was there anything at stake in this game? Tara: [1:05:30] Yeah, I said you'd get a prize. Dave: [1:05:31] Okay. Tara: [1:05:32] Sarah gets a festive gift from me. Sarah: [1:05:34] A festive gift. Dave: [1:05:34] A festive gift. Tara: [1:05:35] Yes. Dave: [1:05:36] Excellent. All right. You ready? Sarah: [1:05:37] It's supposed to be the usual somber gift. Tara: [1:05:39] This one can be whoever wins assigns a steel mill to someone else. Dave: [1:05:45] All right. Sarah: [1:05:46] Okay. Dave: [1:05:47] Ready? Sarah: [1:05:48] Yeah. Dave: [1:05:53] Daddy, are you sure that she's a special man? Rhapsody kids believe in Santa Rhapsody street kids believe in Santa But yes. Tara: [1:06:03] That's another preview for a future episode Dear listener. Dave: [1:06:05] Look forward to that So scary Do something with that sandwich, you dumb fuck Good job. Tara: [1:06:14] Sarah Good job, Sarah Who are you assigning your steel meal to, Dave? Dave: [1:06:19] Oh yeah, Sarah, for winning Very good Thank you. Tara: [1:06:26] Sarah! Sarah! Dave: [1:06:28] All right, guys, that is it for another episode of Extra, Extra Hot Great. We discovered the true meaning of Christmas, money, and revenge with Jingle Bell Heist before answering your burning ass EHG questions like, What TV house are you not selling? And how do I tell someone their gift sucks ass? Everyone found Dave's front tiny food cannon to their liking. We celebrated those who were quite the best and worst of the week. Celebrated good times with Kim and wrapped it all up with Tara's Christmas Tube Toombs Game Time. Next up is the 2025 Guest Thought Experiments on EHG Prime. Remember We're listening I am David T. Cole And on behalf of Tara Arrieto I'm. Tara: [1:07:26] Recovering from a bowling injury. Dave: [1:07:27] And Sarah D. Bunting A. Sarah: [1:07:30] Sexually depraved repeat offender And an American. Dave: [1:07:37] Thanks for that I don't know what that Thanks for listening And we'll see you next time Right here on Extra Extra Hoggrey.