Lining Up At The DMV

Dave 0:11 This is the Extra Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 378 for the October 18th, 2025 weekend. I am inopportune maxi pad appearance, David T. Cole. And I'm here with Wrong Petal, Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 0:32 That's a kid. Kid. Kid. Dave 0:36 And Real ID applicant, Tara Ariano. Tara 0:38 Yes, of course I walk around with my birth certificate. Welcome to Extra, Extra Hot Great for another weekend. Thank you so much for your support. We're delighted you're here. We welcome new members. We see you. We are here today to talk about DMV. Dave 0:58 DMV's gonna rock ya. Tara 1:02 One day is pretty much the same as the next for employees of the East Hollywood branch of the Department of Motor Vehicles. Some are performing driver's tests. Some process paperwork. One takes license photos. A former clerk has just been promoted to manager. Crushes are fostered in disgust. You would think things could continue like this until they all retire or die, but everyone thinks they know best how to impose efficiency, so a pair of consultants are going to be visiting the branch to see whether it's going to be the one of four in Hollywood to lay off all its human staffers and become fully automated because it's 2025 and that's life, baby. The show is based on Katherine Heiney's short story Chicken Flavored and Lemon Scented and adapted by Dana Klein, best known as a writer on Friends, less known as the wife of Mark Feuerstein from Royal Pains, which is probably why he appears in the pilot as a huge asshole who doesn't have any of the right paperwork for their real ID he's trying to apply for. Only one episode has aired so far, with the rest coming Mondays on CBS. We got access to the first four, but we'll be careful about spoilers for future episodes. Let's do the Chen check-in. Sarah, should our listeners watch DMV? Sarah 2:12 Spoiler, there's driving? No, I don't think so. Tara 2:16 Dave. Dave 2:17 I can see a good show here, but it's just not in the right gear yet. Sarah 2:21 Oh. Dave 2:22 I know, right? Get ready for a lot of car puns. Tara 2:25 That's how I feel, too. seems like something where I might want to pick it back up after a season or after the 13th episode switchover. Dave 2:35 Shakes off the cobwebs of its pilot-itis. Tara 2:38 Yes. Let's drill down, though. The DMV is basically shorthand for any purgatorial experience and so universally disliked that creating a show that is set there seems like a writing challenge to see if you can make anything compelling out of it. Sarah, you thought Dana Klein didn't, but describe what was not there for you, I guess. Sarah 2:58 Yeah, it wasn't the setting. There was this like, not uncanny valley exactly, but with the exception of Tim Meadows, I feel like everyone in the cast is kind of a poor man's version of everyone else. Like the recently promoted manager is a poor man's Melissa McCarthy. It's like poor man's Pam from The Office. I mean, I think the setting is actually kind of smart because you have a gazillion different problems of the week cycling through in every episode. It is universally despised, so there is kind of a shorthand that the writers can use and just get to the comedy part of various DMV situations. I do enjoy slapstick involving people getting run over without harm. So that was fine. There were things about it that weren't credible that lost me, like the aforementioned maxi pad. I was like, this is not how maxi pads work. This is not how women work. Was there a single woman or anyone who even had a fucking sister in the writer's room? How did this happen? Dave 4:04 It's not how women work. Tara 4:06 It's not. There's no way that would happen. Sarah 4:09 No, it's not how adhesive works. Nothing about it. Dave 4:13 That's not how women work and that's not how the maxi pad would get there are like that's two different things what i want to. Tara 4:19 Know is exactly. Dave 4:20 No what is it about not women working that way in that scene i need that explained to me. Tara 4:26 Okay first. Dave 4:26 Of all we have to explain the scene. Tara 4:28 Okay so yes i and i have a question about this later so colette who's played by harriet dyer from colin from accounts she has a crush on a new co-worker and so she's going over to talk to him her two fellow driving examiners are watching her because they have a bet going on whether she's actually going to be able to turn this into anything. At first, when she goes over, nothing on her, first of all. Second, when they look up at some later point when she has not left the cubicle where she's talking, suddenly now she has a maxi pad on her. Okay, so that's what happens. Dave 4:59 Well, didn't she detour to the bathroom because somebody else showed up? Tara 5:02 Oh, yeah, she did. Okay, still, regardless. Dave 5:05 Mystery number one solved by David T. Cole. Detective Cole on the case. Proceed. Tara 5:09 But where was this maxi pad without its adhesive, without the backing on it? Was it stuck sticker out to the wall? She bumped into it. Sarah 5:20 Yeah, it stuck to the small of her back, kind of to one side. So over a kidney. Tara 5:26 How did. Sarah 5:27 She if it was like at that level on the wall adhesive out. Tara 5:31 How did. Sarah 5:32 She happen to kind of back at an angle into a bathroom wall at her public workplace. Tara 5:38 You've explained. Dave 5:40 Why the maxi pad shouldn't be there i just was trying to figure out why exactly this was. Tara 5:45 Okay women like are you guys. Dave 5:47 Hiding a secret second hip vagina i don't know about. Tara 5:50 This is the that's what we're saying there's no way that you when you have a maxi pad that's on its way to being used for its normal purpose it's not like you have it out in the common area of a bathroom or if it like it doesn't go far from your hands like it's you know take it you take off the strip you stick it in your underwear you go on with your life they're not like floating around loose. Sarah 6:13 It's not something that can stick to your heel like toilet paper. And then there's a whole bit where she can't get it off her hand, which like, yes, they are using fucking NASA strength adhesive on these things. Now, any menstruating person has been doing this long enough by the time you're that character's age that you like check your shit before you leave the bathroom. And there's no way you don't know this is stuck to you. on top of that, that maxi pad is like, it's not like a menstrual maxi. That's like, depends size, no judgments. Dave 6:47 It was like a foot long from Subway. It was that long. Tara 6:51 Almost. Sarah 6:52 $5 maxi. And that just took me out of it completely that it's like, I get what they're trying to do, but any other way of getting into this embarrassing moment would have worked. Dave 7:05 I can't believe we lost Sarah on maxi pad-based physics jokes. Tara 7:10 But also, on top of that, if these are characters that you're presumably supposed to like and think like each other, why didn't either of the guys get up and just roll past her and peel it off? They don't even have to break stride. Help a girl out. Dave 7:24 Well, because there's a certain spectator sport to what's happening, and I think they were engaging in that from across the office. Sarah 7:30 I mean, I can see boys, men being like, LOL, let's see how this unfolds. Any other woman, even a stranger who did not speak the same language as this character would like zip over and be like, I got you and take it off. Tara 7:47 Or not even say anything. Yeah. Sarah 7:49 This is also not how women work. Someone is going to look out for her in that situation, I feel. Tara 7:57 I mean, honestly, the more likely scenario for something close to this to happen would be if some gross person at the DMV, and God knows they go there, left a used maxi pad somewhere, and she sat on it or picked it up or just did not know. But that obviously would be too gross to put in a network pilot. Sarah 8:15 Yeah. Yeah. They won't even put realistic output. in a commercial for a maxi pad, it's like, oh, menstrual output is blue? How quaint. Dave 8:26 This, by the way, is a 20-second scene at best. Sarah 8:29 But I mean, this was also compounding a certain non-credible awkwardness from the character without the maxi pad that was like, I just feel like I've seen this scene where. Sarah 8:42 A thousand times. And then that they're like, and on top of that, this physically impossible thing happened in a world where no one has met a menstruating woman. Like, okay, you lost me. I didn't hate it before that. I liked it fine. But the maxi pad, I was like, yeah, no. Dave 9:00 It's checking the will they, won't they box for a sitcom. Tara 9:02 Yes. Sarah 9:03 No, no, no. It's not the will they, won't they. It's that she appears never to have been outside her own home for longer than eight minutes in a row before they started filming the pilot. Tara 9:13 She's too awkward. Dave 9:14 Too much life incompetent in a way that you wouldn't expect from somebody who has a career. Tara 9:19 For sure. Sarah 9:20 Yeah. Tara 9:20 So Sarah, I know you're not a big reader of fiction these days, but here's how the short story that DMV is based on begins. I found it. Colette has been a driving examiner for 12 years. She's 36. And yet it only occurs to her today that Ted Bundy had had a driver's license. And that means that some driving examiner had taken him for a road test. Think about it. Some driving examiner had willingly clambered into Ted's VW bug and driven off with him. Maybe the driving examiner had even been a woman, a woman who never knew she had ridden next to death, never knew she had docked death points for improper clutch control. So as a Ted Bundy scholar, would love to know your thoughts. Sarah 10:00 That's an interesting take. certainly the car looms large in the Bundy myth I did enjoy that sequence and the way they montaged the driving tests and it brought me right back to immediately biffed turning into the correct lane out of the DMV parking lot and he very dryly was like well guess you're gonna have to nail parallel parking I was like that's awesome thank you sir, I did manage to do it, but I did think that that was good and the eye chart montage was also good. But Ted Bundy got away with a lot of things because of how he looked, so I don't think he necessarily would have presented as that openly creepy with gloves on. Dave 10:43 As Zachary Quinto's creepier brother. Sarah 10:46 Yeah. Oh my God, yeah. Another poor man's example. Good catch. But I also think if his examiner didn't have long, dark hair parted in the middle, that it was probably not an issue. Tara 10:57 The series premiere, as I mentioned, establishes that this location is under threat. Based on what we see in the second episode, it doesn't seem like the threat is urgent. But regardless, is this premise too depressing to be funny? Dave. Dave 11:08 Well, that's sort of the part of the show where I'm like, what could they do to jazz it up? Because the DMV is an inherently stressful and monotonous place to be or work. Tara 11:20 Yes. Dave 11:20 I was thinking one of the problems is all the characters are sort of informed by that. They're all sort of like, don't want to be there. They're not having a good time. They're not taking pride in their work. And that's all very realistic, but not necessarily great for a sitcom. I was sort of looking for a character or two that was like, you're way too happy to work here. You know what I mean? Like you're way too just into the way the building works and hums and goes through its processes to actually be considered a human being working in the DMV. And he did something like that. Because like Superstar, which I think is the closest thing to what this is trying to be. Tara 12:02 For sure. Sarah 12:02 Trying to do. Yep. Agree. Dave 12:03 It has some of that, like the manager who is way too happy to be there, that kind of thing. It needed a different energy coming from the sides for other people to play off. And at times it just felt like it was too much gloom, it was too much gray, and they needed an ejection or something like that. I think the sitcomness of it is there. I think they land some jokes. There are some awkward comedy moments. I think they've done well, the whole thing, where Colette is absolutely mortified and tries to escape out of the bathroom window and a whole bunch of terrible things happen. Then the whole staff is just looking at her caught in the window on a nail. She had to take her sweater off because of reasons. She's just hanging there in her bra. Sarah 12:48 She's wearing the laundry day bra. Dave 12:50 The manager says, be careful if you're trying to help her from behind because she has terrible diarrhea. Just like a lot of stacked comedy like that. That was pretty funny in the moment. So I could see the bones of a funnier show here. They just have to like, like take a gummy or something. You know what I mean? It just feels like it's a little too staid right now. And they just need to loosen things up. Just like it just needs to click. And it's not quite there. But I feel like they're moving towards the second episode, which for whatever reason, they only put one out, which is a rarity these days. But the second episode was a little bit better. It had a little bit more of a flow to it. It didn't have to do so much introduction, of course, because it wasn't the pilot. So I can kind of see it there. So when I said, like, you know, check back in. half a season from now. That's what I mean. Like, didn't have a chance to figure a shit out. Sarah 13:42 It is almost there. It's not horrible, but there are the bones. That's right. Dave 13:47 It would be nice if the one Latino character wasn't the spicy Latina. Tara 13:52 Yeah. Sarah 13:53 That she's literally eating every single food with chopsticks. I noticed it. It was like that Rusty Ryan moment that I was like, this show has things for me. Just not enough. Dave 14:04 I'll tell you something, though. It did provide a moment of Toilet Strat, which made no sense. So I just want to bring that up. which is managers, her first day on the job in the pilot. She was just promoted. She's very nervous because on top of all that, the consultants are here and they're going to be mucking around, sticking their fingers on everything. And the lead character, Colette, in the bathroom, there is this misunderstanding where the manager thinks she has diarrhea and she says, please don't basically go to the bathroom because the pipes are bad and it can't handle your diarrhea. Diarrhea is the best thing to do if you have bad pipes. Tara 14:39 That's right. Dave 14:39 Because it's not, you know, we all know what diarrhea is like. Sarah 14:43 Bulky. Dave 14:44 Yeah. So I'm just saying somebody needed to take a second. They needed a poo consultant. And I'm just telling you, Hollywood right now, if you need a poo script consultant, you need to know how it affects the characters, the story, the milieu. I'm your man. Tara 15:00 So your objections to this storyline are now you know how we feel about the maxi pad. So shut it. Dave 15:07 But I'm saying the poo thing is universal. It's not about how men work. Tara 15:11 Well. Dave 15:12 Oh, by the way, there is a very, I don't eat meat, but there's a very delicious looking meatball sandwich in which one of the characters crushes potato chips on top of. Sarah 15:22 And my sandwich. Any excuse. Dave 15:26 Any excuse. You know what else is delicious and you crush on top of things to make it better? this theme to a little segment we like to call ASS EAS Cheek. Honk. All right, it is Ask E.H.G., which means we have to spin the wheel of judginess. It has landed on Sarah D. Bunting. She will be our judge for Ask E.H.G., judging your answers to last week's question. Sarah 16:13 Our question from last week comes from C. Kent. Quote, I recently watched Scorsese's Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and was kind of surprised the last third got turned into a standard. wacky sitcom with Alice. So we've all been tasked with pick a movie from the past 10 years and turn it into a mildly inappropriate to its origins TV show. What's the show and who is in it? Before we get to your answers, David T. Cole, hit us with yours. Dave 16:41 All right. I'm going with the movie Ex Machina from seven, eight years back. And the TV show is about a robot trying to pass as a human so she He can continue to live with her three roommates in their large New York City apartment. It's sort of like Booz and Buddies, but with a robot. Sarah 16:58 Gotcha. All right. We had a we had a lot of good answers to this. Eric with a K contributed this. Yvonne Strahovski is an aging supermodel recruited by a shadowy government agency and given a serum that lets her change her appearance for 24 hours at a time. She establishes a new identity, Kaya Gerber, and career, taking modeling gigs and doing undercover missions for her mysterious benefactors. Sarah 17:22 Can she balance her two careers when she only has a limited amount of time in her new body? will her boyfriend finn wolfhard find out the girl he's been dating is 40 what kind of side effects might develop from long-term use of the substance this fall on abc i also enjoyed this one mostly for the kicker from seth now that danny has assumed her role as the may queen and has a broken up with her terrible boyfriend midsummer is now a word place comedy mid-autumn with two m's As the token American in the Swedish murder commune, Danny is tasked with luring tourists to their doom, but is so inept at lying in improv that she ends up saving all of the potential sacrifices. Oops. The hijinks only get wilder as the cult adjusts from 24-hour sunlight to 24-hour darkness. Don't talk to the elder before he has his cocafe. And you know that girl who puts her pubes into drinks is up to some monkey shines. starring Liv Hewson as Danny with Peter Stormare and Mylon Ackerman as the elders. A different Sarsgaard shows up each season. And here's my favorite part. While Joel Kinnaman does appear in episode 10, don't worry. He's quickly pushed off a cliff onto the sharp rocks below this fall on Peacock. Yeah, Kinnaman humor. We're always here for it. But that's still not our winner. Our winner comes from Erica. Sarah 18:44 Coming this fall, Noon Cowboy. 20 years later, Joe Buck, Alan Tudyk, now living in Miami, is the host of a daytime Dr. Ruth-style radio show called Everybody's Talking At Me, where he gives the laugh-trackiest sex advice the late 1980s has to offer. When he needs a breather, he puts on a cowboy hat and takes long walks with the ghost of his late friend Ratso Rizzo, David Dasmalkian, who gives Joe sage advice about his show, his love life, and more. Erica, wonderful work. Seekent himself, I think, chimed in to say five points off for not calling the show I'm talking here, which fair, but in my heart, Erica is the winner. Erica, you know how this works. Please go on Discord and DM David T. Cole for your stickers. Dave 19:31 Thank you, everybody. Good answers. All right, let's get to your questions for us this week. First one comes from Swizard. The Hunting Wives implies the existence of the Gathering Husbands. What kind of show is it, and who do you cast? Tara 19:47 It's a bro hangout show about stay-at-home dads who are married to high-powered career women, and the guys are played by Kyle Bornheimer, Michael Pena, and Adam Pally. Sarah? Sarah 19:57 I almost put Adam Pally in mine, which is charmed meets men of a certain age, and I am casting John Cho, Ben Sinclair, that's the guy from High Maintenance, and Sterling K. Brown. It will be magical, literally. Dave. Dave 20:12 The Gathering Husbands is about trad husbands having a bad time at the grocery store. It stars Bruce Greenwood and that guy who says, get her done. Sarah 20:22 Larry the Cable Guy. Dave 20:24 Sure. Larry the Cable Guy. Tara 20:25 Thank you. Dave 20:26 Jovial Jen, after seeing the movie Weapons being used to advertise getting your flu shot at CVS, I am wondering what horror film would you use to advertise a way to be healthy? Using horror for health. Sarah 20:40 I am envisioning an utterly missing-the-point use of Get Out as an exhortation to take a 20-minute walk daily because it improves heart health and keeps you out of the sunken place. Like, grave? I did have a prom night condoms thing that was a play on the severed head on the dance floor, but I just could not get it to go. Dave. Dave 21:03 For my money, and I'm not a horror guy, but one of my favorite horror movies is the 1978 film Dawn of the Dead. This is the original Dawn of the Dead, where most of it takes place in a shopping mall, which our heroes have made safe, barricaded, and life is good. Get to go through the shopping mall and try and close some seers and all this fun stuff until a biker gang spots the mall and breaks in, therefore also letting the zombies in. And there is a moment where the zombies eventually overwhelm the biker gang. And this biker gang is a very colorful lot. One of the bikers is a big guy, he likes to wear a giant tourist sombrero, you know, the ones with all the line art and the sequins everywhere. And he's decided that he wants to use the mall blood pressure machine. Remember those kiosks you used to have where you would go in and put your arm? I know, but like you used to have them in malls rather than just at the grocery store or the CVS or whatever, right? So he's in the middle of the aisle in this blood pressure machine. He's got his hand in the cuff. The cuff is locked him into place to do the blood pressure reading. And that's when the zombies get them. And they basically just tear each limb off one by one, including, it makes no sense. But you know an anime where like somebody gets sliced in half and they like they stand there for three seconds and then one half of them slides off. Sarah 22:23 Slides down. Dave 22:24 Yeah. Basically, they rip them apart like that. Like this torso just has like a cut right through the middle. They just like lift them off like a like a snowman being disassembled. So it's that scene to get your blood pressure checked. Tara 22:37 The movie Presence, which came out earlier this year, it's a Steven Soderbergh film. It's basically a haunted house story where you only see the family more or less from like the perspective of the presence in the house. It's very eerie. It's more unsettling than like terrifying, I would say. It's good. If you have Hulu, you should watch it. But I would do a tie in between that movie and First Alert carbon monoxide detectors. Because similarly, it's just sort of. Sarah 23:05 Love it. Tara 23:06 It's always lurking. You don't know what's happening. But you could buy a device that would help you. Sarah 23:11 Mm-hmm. Dave 23:12 Mopsoukis, what do you think will be the top TV-related Halloween costume this year? Assuming infinite resources and crafty talent, what TV costume would you yourself want to wear? I think the top Halloween costume this year is going to be the Octo-Eye guy from Alien Earth. If people can pull it off. Could be a really good costume. Tara 23:31 Mm-hmm. Dave 23:31 And as far as what I would be, I'm changing my answer. I want to be the MaxiPad from DMV. Tara 23:36 Yeah. I'm going to say top is Ed Gein, just because it's going to be really easy to pull off. Dave 23:41 Mother, it's Halloween. Time to get the candy. Tara 23:44 If you live in Austin, you can go to Stag Outfitters and buy every single thing he wears except for $600, because that's how much it is. It just looks like it's old. With or without a mask, if you want to do a mask, you just bring to the party a big package of bologna and periodically bite out eye and mouth holes and stick it on your face. my hypothetical timely TV costume is going to be fake Elon Musk from 9-1-1 with a humpback whale over the top half of his body. Sarah 24:15 Sarah? I have to feel like either Elsbeth or Morgan from High Potential will be popular ideas since they're network shows and easy enough to get into the ballpark with with shit that you have in your own closet if you're inclined to dress up as those ladies anyway along those same lines i'm not really into costumes that require a build and i tend to need a pair costume for the party that we go to so i think uh dan and i are gonna go as sass pataki and charles hayden savage from only murders i of course i'm sass pataki because i'm taller a little blonde wiggage little flat hat we could just wear identical shit from dan's closet and we're done that's fine you. Dave 24:56 Know i feel sorry for on halloween this people had a really good idea, but they didn't have the courage of their conviction, so they add that one prop to their costume that is like Bruins their night, like you have to carry something around. And I think Elzabeth would have that problem where to really sell the whole package, you would probably want to carry around a lot of shopping bags with you all the time, but you can't do that all night. Tara 25:19 Mm-mm. Dave 25:20 Fairy Ruby, new question asker. All of you seem to have positive thoughts about the new soap opera Beyond the Gates, covered a few months ago. Have any of you kept up with it? Tara? Tara 25:31 Have not. Dave? Dave 25:33 No, because time is a funny thing that I don't have a lot of in a daily commitment. Absolutely not. Sir? Sarah 25:39 Same. Absolutely intended to do a weekly digest rewatch and did not. Nothing against the show, just time. Dave 25:46 Yeah, I barely have time to watch, to continue watching the shows we like that we cover here. Sarah 25:51 Yeah, same. Dave 25:52 Jovial Gent, how did you get into the TV Truthstorian Guild? Sarah, how did you get your membership? Sarah 25:59 I came in through the catacombs and grabbed a card from the archives. Tara? Tara 26:04 I got drunk and told a long rambling story that I heard. Dave? Dave 26:08 Speaking truth to power about Hugh Laurie's not great accent in-house, of course, got me in. correctly using season versus series depending on where the show comes from they were impressed with that oh and also knowing the terrible secret of the relationship between nbc's peacock and the cbsi, It's disgusting. Jovial Gent is back with another question. I saw a YouTube comment the other day that said, in the 80s, they would add an old person to music videos to class it up. That made me think, what is an 80s TV show you would add an old person to to class it up? That's very true. The 80s did like doing that a lot. When we say old people in the 80s and you add a music video, they had to be like a certain stuffiness. I think that was like what you saw the most. Think sort of like an older version of Robin Leach, that kind of character, or the driver from the Grey Poupon commercial, that sort of like old, or maybe something like dynasty adjacent, you know, that kind of moneyed character. Sarah 27:06 Someone who Edward Herman would have played, but... Dave 27:08 Yes. Sarah 27:09 Old. Dave 27:09 Exactly. So my suggestion is Crockett's long lost Scottish great uncle passes away and bequeaths Crockett, his butler, who must live on the boat in his second episode, He's Eaten by Elvis the Alligator. Sarah. Sarah 27:23 Auto Man is getting a spinoff. Oldsmobile. That's as far as I got, and I was too proud of it, but here we all are. Tara. Tara 27:32 My two dads and also Cicely Tyson. Dave 27:35 George, would you be cooler if your name was Zach or Adam? Tara. Tara 27:40 If my name was Adam, maybe. With Zach, I'm going to say no, because I would have to correct people on spelling it as much as I currently have to correct people on pronouncing my actual name, so I would probably be basically the same. Sarah. Sarah 27:53 I have to say, I didn't know if George meant, is Adam or Zach the cooler name? Tara 27:58 Oh, well, I didn't read it that way. Sarah 28:00 Or would I personally be cooler if I were named either one of those things instead of Sarah? I've answered both. I would be cooler if my name was Zach, I think. And so that's the first one. I think Zach is a slightly cooler name. I think they're both fine. But would I be cooler if I were named one of those instead of Sarah? No, there's no help for me. Dave. Dave 28:23 Zach Cole is far too Nickelodeon for my taste. Sarah 28:27 Yeah, no. Dave 28:27 And I'm going to be honest with you, Adams out there. There's too many people named Adam considering that's the name of one of the biggest biblical failures we have. That other people decided to name you Adam reflects not on you, but on them. Tara 28:42 Interesting. Dave 28:43 This has been Adam Talk. Oh my God. Another question from Jovial Gent, three in one episode. What is something from around where you live that you think is overrated? Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 28:54 I'll try to keep this short because I live in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, and no one cares. But Gino's. People legit come from all around the city and even back from New Jersey or Long Island to go to this place. And Gino's, it's an Italian restaurant. It is fine. It is not bad. Dave 29:11 I thought you were talking about people named Gino's. And I was like, oh, it was again this weird period. Making fun of people's names and saying names are not good. I would never. Sarah 29:18 No, making a reservation like weeks in advance to go to average red sauce Italian that they occasionally try to elevate with what they call broccoli rabe. First of all, it's just broccoli rabe. Second of all, I think you're actually using like regular broccoli. Dave 29:33 But- He was good on Survivor though. Sarah 29:37 He was my favorite player. Look, I love institutional starch. This is not a knock on the restaurant. I just don't understand why it is a destination. I haven't gone there in six years, and it's literally a block and a half away from us. 100% not worth standing in line with literally a velvet rope that is outside. Bless their hearts. Dave. Dave 29:59 In Austin, I'm going to say all the recreational pond holes, creeks in and around the city, there are pain in the ass to get to, there are pain in the ass to navigate once you're there because they're all incredibly crowded with millennials. So, and also I'm coming from the big island as my, the last place I live, which is a giant downgrade in that regards, because there are 10,000 places you can enjoy watering coves and weird little baths, and there's never anybody there. So I'm sure that's coloring my answer, but that's what it is. Tara, Austin area. Tara 30:34 Whataburger. Dave 30:36 Oh, all right. Ambrose Chapel. Did any of you in your youth write fan mail to anyone? And if so, did they reply? In 1986, I wrote to the official Genesis fan club and never got a reply. Tara 30:50 Whoa. Dave 30:51 Every day when I open the mailbox, I think, Is this one of those things where it just got lost in the dead letter office or like it was underneath an old moldy mailbag? And now here it is, but it never happened. It's all right. Tara 31:03 Yeah, I wrote to Stephen Fry, and he did write back. Dave 31:05 Oh, what'd he say? Tara 31:07 I don't remember. I went to look for the letter earlier, and I forgot. Dave 31:10 Was it acerbic? Tara 31:10 No, I think it was nice. Sarah 31:12 Here's a maxi pad. Stick it to your side. Tara 31:15 I'd read a book of his essays, and it just at a time in my life when I was feeling very oppressed as a teenager, as one does. Dave 31:25 So wait a sec. The oppressed teenage girl in you was really identified with Stephen Fry. Tara 31:34 You know, you go through changes in life, and I'm no different than anyone else. Dave 31:38 All right. Sarah 31:39 No. Tara 31:39 Sarah. Sarah 31:40 I wrote to President Reagan to ask him to please send all the nuclear weapons in our arsenal into deep space. I'm sure he meant to write back and just forgot, but he did not write back. Dave 31:50 Too busy getting the solar panels off the roof to attend to the letters. Kat CM has your question this week, dear listeners, for Ask Ask EHG. They write, I just listened to the canon pitch of a regular show, and it reminded me of how I first learned about the concept of insomnia from family ties when Alex Keaton couldn't sleep for a whole week. As a child, what adult concept did you first learn about from the sitcom? You got an answer there. Go to our Discord. Go to our Ask Ask ESG channel. Alternatively, if you're not on there, you can email me your answer, david at cole.fyi. I will be back soon with a judgment on that question. It is time for the Tiny Cannon presenting this week. It is Sarah D. Bundy. Sarah 32:38 Hi! It's me, ExtraHotGrate's most tireless Felicity submitter for all things canonical. Today I would like to submit a life hack from Felicity Season 1, Episode 4, Boggled, to the Tiny Cannon. As the episode title suggests, Boggled is better known as the episode in which, okay, first of all, Julie, Amy Jo Johnson, meets the notorious pink guy, Devin Gummersall, and in which a game of Boggle culminates in Felicity, Keri Russell, and Noel, Scott Foley, making out. And that in turn leads to Felicity maybe possibly jumping to the head of the dorm fridge equivalent of the UNOS organ transplant list as a result. Sarah 33:20 Felicity's lab partner, Elena, Tangie Miller, isn't happy that Felicity might be benefiting from Noel's smooch-adjacent patronage, but Felicity's roommate, Megan, Amanda Foreman, is perfectly fine with it and quickly starts acting like the fridge and any food in it is hers by the transitive property. Felicity is puzzled by this, of course, because she and Megan, a club rat strega who despises Felicity in a way the viewer is meant to find mean and discomforting but is actually slash also kind of hilarious, do not have a good relationship, or really any relationship. And that's a shame, because La Rotundi has much to Roteach us, all of us, about starting the day off right, and not for nothing, about dairy substitutes. Felicity is not open to these ideas, though, when she finds a leopard print thong in the fridge. Felicity is mistaken. Clip one. Sarah 34:18 Hey! Um, are. Sarah 34:56 I can't believe it's not butter. It tastes so much like butter. Really does, guys. Here is why I feel that this life hack belongs in the Extra Hot Crate Tiny canon. Number one, it is very true to a certain kind of freshman roommate relationship slash interaction. Number two, it is extremely in character for Megan, who has a key skeptic POV in Felicity's first season. the hit of acid that finishes the dish of let's face it the often extremely petty dramas that face our heroine and her friends and number three and most importantly the steez works i forget which long ago heatwave found me under air conditioned and willing to try any fucking thing to ward off the sheen of subway sweating for longer than 15 seconds but the night before one then standard commute from Murray Hill in Manhattan all the way up to the Barnard campus, I was like, bug it, threw a couple pairs of boy shorts in the freezer, and I'm sure it was 98% psychological, but mind over matter gets the job done sometimes, and I bet I'm not the only Megan superfan who has tried chilling her draws. Is this a long shot pitch? Probably, but I don't care. At least now it's in the permanent record. I hope my fellow panelists will join Megan in keeping it frosty for the Tiny Cannon. Tara 36:20 Thank you, Sarah. Yeah, I feel like this is going to be submitted for an answer to this week's Ask EHD question of something you first learned about in TV, putting your underwear in the fridge to give it a nice chill. It is a funny idea. Megan is the perfect character to do this. It was either going to be her or Sean, so it might as well be her first. The exchange between them, you're so right that Megan is extremely necessary to the balance of the show. Sort of today's point about dmv it's like that's what's missing like but the opposite they need a felicity in that show yeah full of megan's and felicity the show needed megan for sure just the idea of replacing an apple with a tub of i can't believe it's not butter is so funny and defending it with it tastes so much like butter is hilarious you have. Dave 37:10 To imagine this is like a weird probably doesn't exist in a real world mini tub so it is the same size as the apple and i think. Tara 37:18 That's what was going. Sarah 37:19 To remind like this. Dave 37:20 Is a reciprocal. Sarah 37:21 Replace the bag of sand and raiders of. Tara 37:24 The lost ark. Dave 37:24 Yeah exactly yeah. Tara 37:26 I believe that size exists especially in new york oh that's true you might buy something like that at the bodega you're right yeah i remember when i still worked in an office i had like tiny tubs of butter then for when i would eat breakfast at work office butter and it was office butter for your muffins? Probably. Anyway, great presentation. I'd forgotten all about this moment. It's been a long time since I watched Felicity, and maybe I need to revisit it. Dave? Dave 37:53 Well, my problem with this submission is the life hack submission. So really, the only way to judge it is to see if it's a good life hack. So that's why I put underwear in the freezer two hours ago. So I'm going to go get it, and we're going to see if it works or not. Sarah 38:09 Oh, my God. Amazing. Tara 38:13 Here he goes, He's running down the hall I can hear him. Sarah 38:20 I mean, I'm glad our Texas correspondent is testing this out because it's like 55 Fahrenheit in NYC right now. Tara 38:28 It's still so hot. Yesterday when I went to get my hair cut, I was able to drive there with the windows down and it was heavenly. But by midday, it was up to 30 plus degrees Celsius. Dave 38:39 I'm going to go slightly off camera here and I'm going to put on my chilled underwear. Tara 38:44 We see them. Sarah 38:46 I don't need to see your office butter. Tara 38:48 Oh, my God. he's exposing himself in front of sandy she's just a little baby dog, and. Dave 38:59 Oh that feels good feels good and also my testicles have never been smaller, and it's a wait hang on hang on hang on hang on and it's gone that's how long it lasted Felt good for that seven seconds, though. So is there anybody I got to give this one a thumbs up? Nice life hack. Seven seconds of heaven. Sarah 39:25 Mm-hmm. Dave 39:27 All right. Tara Ariadne, let's make this official. What say you for the life hack from Felicity putting underwear in a fridge or freezer? Tara 39:34 I mean, I'm not as much of a woman in STEM as you to actually try it, but I'm still going to say yay. Dave 39:38 Yeah, me too. So cold undies from Felicity. You are hereby inducted into the extra hot, great Lifehack Cannon. Americans love a winner. Yup. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. It's time for the not quite winners and losers of the week. I will go first with my not quite winner. It is the in-betweeners from the UK. It is getting a revival from its original creators and apparently with its original cast. According to Variety, no details on plot or how they're going to manage that. Interested but wary. All grown-up reboots usually don't hit the way you want them to. And also, adults are just less chaotic, so I don't know if you're going to get everything you want from the Inbetweeners 30-something version. Tara 40:35 No, it's true. And there's also the issue of now they're old enough to have their own children, even if they're still pretty little. It's like, I don't care to watch these guys with kids. I mean, I will obviously check it out. But yeah, I agree. It's hard to get excited about it. Dave 40:50 Yep. my not quite loser of the week is apple tv plus apple thinking dropping the plus gives it a vibrant new identity which is just the saddest corporate pr release i've seen in a while, apple's so bad at naming their shit like first of all that they did that in the first place because they have apple tv the hardware of the box you buy and then they have apple tv plus which wasn't a better version of the box but was in fact just the data that you got on the box the shows which made no sense right why it just isn't called like apple studios or apple. Sarah 41:28 Screen yeah something me one of them something. Dave 41:31 Different yeah and apple is just really like they have right now in their lineup like multiple things that have the same name like if you went inside like i want an iPad, not even like I want an iPad Pro versus iPad. There's like multiple SKUs that share the name iPad, stuff like that. If I told you there is a Mac you can buy that is M1 Macs. And then later I told you it is MaxMAX, so you can buy an M1 Max Max. Tara 41:59 No. Dave 42:00 Like, they're not thinking about it. I don't know what the marketing, what the naming committee is doing there in Apple, but they've been terrible for years. So, not surprising. Not surprising at all. Apple TV Nonplus is the show episodes of the tech world. It's just like, how do I find Apple TV now and not get results for hardware and for the shows that are on Apple TV? Really stupid decision. Just figure out a different name. No shame in it. Just admit that you need something for your content that is different from your hardware. Stupid. Sarah. Tara 42:37 You tell them. Dave 42:38 Well, I'm on the Apple thing. Apple Tahoe, the new Mac OS. If you are not yet upgraded to that, do not stick on Sequoia. It is abysmal. Tara 42:50 Dave has been making this his holy crusade. What were you going to say, Sarah? Dave 42:53 Fucking sucks so much. I've lost so much time. Sarah 42:56 Apple Maxi pad? Tara 42:58 No. Sarah 42:59 Memorable. Dave 43:00 Also, if you stay on Sequoia, don't upgrade Safari. is going to ask you to upgrade Safari and is going to upgrade you to the version that's on Tahoe and it looks like shit and it's terrible. This has been MacTalk with Dave. Tara 43:13 Boo! Sarah 43:14 Yeah, I also am struggling with that as far as Shopify being like, you gotta use something else that isn't corrupted and I'm like, it's not corrupted, words have meanings Anyway, not quite winner. B-b-b-b-bosh! Continuing to expand the Boschverse, there will be a prequel series called start of watch starring Cameron Monaghan and Omari Hardwick Monaghan as B-B-B-B-Bosh Omari Hardwick as a character from his past that we haven't seen yet in the Bosch verse please let the J Edgar show be revived that was the one I really wanted to see but I think filming starts next year and Ballard got renewed so yay, not quite loser, Mark Wahlberg. Graham Norton shares what, quote, hell. It was having Mark Wahlberg as a guest on Norton's talk show in 2013. Graham Norton thinks that Wahlberg was drunk or something, and at one point finally settled down and stopped interrupting other people's segments and bits. And Graham Norton is bracing himself for Wahlberg to be like, listen, listen, listen. And it didn't happen. So he looks over and Wahlberg was asleep. so yeah he's. Tara 44:29 Been back on the show since then so i guess they smooth things over but there was one notoriously terrible appearance that he's like. Sarah 44:35 Yeah and it was over 10 years ago and i think mark walberg has like joked about it with graham norton so i didn't think this was like a big you know rumble or scandal yeah it's not like if someone stuck a maxi pad to his chair if he's facing out tara. Tara 44:53 My not quite winner of the week is the Magic 8-Ball. You thought the Inbetweeners revival was a weird use of IP. Well, what if I told you Magic 8-Ball is going to be the subject of a supernatural drama series adaptation from M. Night Shyamalan of being M. Night Shyamalan and Brad Falchuk of 9-1-1 and American Horror Story fame. Sarah 45:16 Oh, boy. Tara 45:17 You know, Hasbro, I guess, or whoever makes this, I assume it's Hasbro, like, get after it, I suppose. but we really need to revisit the idea of an original concept and perhaps shame people more when they come up with bullshit like this. Dave 45:33 But what i would like to know and maybe this is a wikipedia page answer that we can get why is it an eight ball yeah. Tara 45:41 I don't know i've never known. Dave 45:42 Feels like that was the prototype some guy in his garage made he just had an extra set of billiards balls and he hollowed out the eight ball and it just stuck like it was supposed to be a crystal ball or something like that right well. Sarah 45:53 The eight ball is the last one that you want to. Dave 45:55 Sink but it's. Sarah 45:56 Also black and white so it's maybe easier or was easier to manufacture cheaper to manufacture. Dave 46:03 But obviously it's an original it's not like they're using eight balls right i mean it's a giant plastic thing so i just it's weird and. Sarah 46:10 There's like a million different like i have a bob uecker magic eight ball that's like baseball pattern. Dave 46:15 Yeah so here's a question for you sarah If the magic eight ball started to leak, what sort of thing would you grab to absorb the blue liquid? Tara 46:24 Great question. Sarah 46:26 Paper towel. Dave 46:27 Fucking hell. Sarah 46:27 I know what you're trying to get me to say. Dave 46:33 All right. Answers on the eight ball? Is that what you're looking up, Tara? Tara 46:37 Oh, sorry. No. Dave 46:38 No? Okay. Sarah 46:39 Never mind. Let me see what the eight ball has to say. But keep in mind, it is a Bob Uecker eight ball. So all the answers are like written in the style of Bob Uecker. Dave 46:46 Okay. Okay. Sarah 46:50 Jeez. What does that even say? Dave 47:02 I'm leaving all of this in the podcast. Sarah 47:06 Great. I'm sorry. I forgot the signs. Dave 47:12 Worth the wait. Tara 47:13 Okay. You're right, Dave. Originally, it was an improvement on a product that was a crystal ball type of a thing. Dave 47:21 Okay, an improvement. Interesting. All right, loser? Tara 47:24 My not quite loser of the week are actually a bunch of huge losers who can no longer be losers in community. It is the Conservative Parents TV Council, which has filed for bankruptcy. So you're going to have to do your own TV scolding from now on. Sarah 47:39 Moral bankruptcy. Tara 47:42 Delicious. Dave 47:43 All right. Let's welcome in Cary Race's first ever episode of the world's most dangerous musical moments on television. This one is crazy. Sarah 47:55 Oh my God. It's a corker. Kari 48:05 Hello, folks, and welcome to Carrie Race and the World's Most Dangerous Musical Moments on TV. And that title isn't the only thing I'm stealing from Paul Schaefer. I am also recording this wearing sunglasses and an obnoxious Paisley suit jacket. But I am not here to talk about one of the many bonkers musical moments from Late Night with David Letterman or The Late Show. No, we are going back farther in time. And to get there, I need to take you, with me, back to a night earlier this summer, an innocent time before my whole world was shattered to pieces by the television program I am going to share with you today. I was hanging with my two best friends, Joe and Nora, when Nora casually said this sentence, It was kind of like how when Cher played all the parts in West Side Story. Let me repeat that for you. It was kind of like how when Cher played all the parts in West Side Story. To say that I was shook by this pronouncement is not even close to accurate. This information was like a 9.9 on the Richter scale, and I was now standing at the bottom of a La Brea-style crevice wondering how I was going to get back to a reality that did not involve Cher playing all the parts in West Side Story, which, again, is apparently a thing that happened. Kari 49:24 When pressed to give Joe and I more details, Nora could offer none that would satisfy us. I think words had really lost all meaning. I was reduced to muttering, wait, what? In response to anything she said. Eventually, she gave up and said, I'm sure it's on YouTube. Let's just watch it. And listeners, that's what we did. I promise I will orient you to actual time and space in a moment with some facts. but for now, I have to start you off with one clip. Imagine a black screen and a woman calling out, Cher, Cher, Cher emerges from the darkness, her hair and pigtails, obviously intended to be portraying herself as a child, and proceeds to have a conversation with this disembodied voice, who we quickly understand is her mother, about how Cher thinks she will never be special because she is not blonde and has teeth like a vampire and a bumpy nose. Her mother gives her a beautiful pep talk, and then, truly out of nowhere, this happens. Kari 50:30 Now, about those record albums, if you're going to borrow them, at least put them back. will be playing all the parts. Thank you. Um, okay. This was the start to an hour of television titled Cher dot dot dot special that aired on ABC on April 3rd, 1978. Kari 51:31 Cher had been on TV almost continually since 1971, first on the Sonny and Cher comedy hour, then on her own variety show after their divorce, and then even a revived Sonny and Cher show that continued until 1977. Kari 51:47 But in 1978, her marriage to Greg Ullman had ended, her latest album had bombed, and she had started a new relationship with Gene Simmons of Kiss. I mean, no wonder she lost her damn mind and decided playing all the parts in West Side Story on national TV was a good move. And she didn't even try to ease us in. Right after, she defiantly declares, I will be playing all the parts, thank you. Which, by the way, is my new way of ending every conversation, no matter the situation. We get four different shares, dressed as various jets, singing what I understand is called Jet Song. Let me confess right now, I have never seen West Side Story. Not on stage, not the original movie, not the Spielberg remake. No disrespect to whoever wrote this musical. Don't at me, Adam Grossworth. But Jet Song is a stupid title. Anyway, I'm not going to tell you about each Cher Jet, but there is one with a misshapen blonde wig with what seems to be shoulder pads under his sweatshirt. So that's like Peyton Manning in his high school production of West Side Story. And there's one that is basically Uncle Junior, who always has his hands in his pockets, which is very unsettling. From there, we get Cher as I guess Tony singing Tonight and Cher as Maria singing I Feel Pretty. Kari 53:10 I mean, if you plan on watching this in its entirety later, keep any dogs out of the room for that song because Cher hits some high notes that I think may cause them some real distress. Just to be clear, these are very short snippets of these songs. It's not like Cher is acting out the entire musical beat for beat. So you wonder why she picked certain portions over the others. Like Cher, I love you, girl, but this is not in your range. Next, we're back to the four jets and the first appearances of, I think, Bernardo and Anita singing Tonight. And I'm sorry to report that the accent Cher is using for these characters would get her retroactively canceled if the woke police knew about it. So please do not report this to your local chapter of Antifa. Anita's gonna get our kicks tonight. We'll. Kari 54:04 Poor dear no matter if he's tired As long as he's here Okay, I can't go song by song through this. We'll be here all night. But the big finale is Cher as Anita singing A Place for Us to some poor extra force to play a dead Tony laying face down in her arms. And Cher has absolutely just given up any artifice of actually acting West Side Story at this point. Like, she is full on doing that Cher slur. You know what I mean. Kari 54:51 As the song fades out 15 minutes into the program, we get the opening credits, which say, With Dolly Parton, Rod Stewart, and the Tubes. Imagine sitting in front of your TV back in April of 1978 with your family, having watched 15 minutes of Cher playing all the parts in West Side Story, and that's only one quarter of this hour-long special. What the actual hell, am I right? I'm going to leave you to discover the rest of the episode entirely for yourself. The Rod Stewart clip is not included on the official version uploaded on YouTube. I mean, decide for yourself whether you think he's very smart or very stupid. But Dolly shows up to do this absolutely insane skit with Cher where they only talk in song titles. And then the final part is this Gonzo performance piece where Dolly basically plays God and she battles the tubes for Cher's soul. Yeah, you heard me right. Please do yourself a favor and carve out an hour to sit down and watch this in the near future. as the cool kids say we'll link it in the show notes life is truly too short not to experience Cher playing all the parts thank you. Dave 56:06 It's time for our extra credit. Welcome back in Grandpa's. This week, we've got Sink This Ship. It comes from Yours Truly, in which I asked Tara and Sarah to pick 10 or more highly regarded TV shows, and then we're going to rename them for Maximum Failure. So we're going to try to sink those ships. All right, we're going to start with Sarah D. Bunting. I am going to read the show, and she will let us know what the new title is going to be that absolutely is going to ruin it. If we went back in time and we named this, we never would have known the show today. Here we go. Sarah D. Bunting. Looks like these are presented in alphabetical order. First show, all in the family. Sarah 56:50 Let's all care about a fat racist from Queens. Dave 56:54 The Americans. Sarah 56:56 Wig trunk. Dave 56:59 Arrested development. Sarah 57:00 It to Lucille's a never nude and a banana stand girls, The Lena Dunham Project. Dave 57:07 Good Place. Sarah 57:08 Spoiler, they're not actually there. Dave 57:10 Sex and the City. Sarah 57:12 Slappable Shoehound Seeks Same. Dave 57:15 The Shield. Sarah 57:17 The Old Bad Cop Bad Cop. Dave 57:19 Sparks Night. Sarah 57:20 Dana's Dating Plan. Dave 57:21 Saint Elsewhere. Sarah 57:23 The Timmy Westfall Universe. Dave 57:24 And finally, The West Wing. Sarah 57:26 Liberal Cope. Dave 57:28 Nice. All right, Tara, you ready? Tara 57:30 Yes. I'll just say these are arranged from increasing crappiness of my titles. Dave 57:35 All right, Columbo. Tara 57:36 How Ketchum. Dave 57:38 Yeah. The Lowdown. Tara 57:40 I, Truthstorian. Dave 57:42 Scandal. Tara 57:43 Winding Up. Dave 57:44 The Bear. Tara 57:46 Eat Your Feelings. Dave 57:47 30 Rock. Tara 57:48 Lemon Aid, A-I-D. Dave 57:50 Oh, no. Sarah 57:51 Oh. Dave 57:51 Terrible. Breaking Bad. Tara 57:53 You Do the Meth. Dave 57:54 Oh. Sarah 57:55 Interview with the Vampire. Tara 57:57 Friends with Bloodifits. I told you they got crappier as I went on. Dave 58:01 Deadwood. Tara 58:02 Many Fucks Given. Dave 58:03 Nice. Severance. Tara 58:04 Braincation. Dave 58:06 And Schitt's Creek. Tara 58:07 Diarrhea Dam. Thank you. Dave 58:09 Who wants to read mine? Tara 58:11 I will read them. Dave 58:12 All right. Here we go. Tara 58:13 Hannibal. Dave 58:14 Face Eater. Tara 58:16 Mm-hmm. Girls. Dave 58:17 Vagina Havers. Tara 58:19 I would love you to say Face Eater again. Columbo. Dave 58:23 Detective Wonky Eye. Tara 58:25 Westworld. Dave 58:26 Robot Feelings Theme Park. Tara 58:28 Breaking Bad. Dave 58:29 Alba Quirky. Tara 58:31 All in the family. Dave 58:33 RT hates the Jews. Tara 58:34 Dallas. Dave 58:36 Fort Worth. Tara 58:37 Gilmore Girls. Dave 58:38 Gilmore Vagina Havers. Tara 58:40 Six Feet Under. Dave 58:41 Got two here. Oh No, I Died. Tara 58:44 Uh-huh. Dave 58:44 Or The Chronicles of Narmia. Sarah 58:50 ER. Dave 58:51 Dr. Floorpunter. Tara 58:53 Mad Men. Dave 58:54 Cigarettes and Feelings. Tara 58:55 The Handmaid's Tale. Dave 58:56 Red Cloaks, Zero Vibes. Tara 58:58 The Crown. Dave 58:59 ER2. Tara 59:01 Twin Peaks. Dave 59:02 What about Bob? Tara 59:03 And finally, Game of Thrones. Dave 59:05 Pointy chair contest. Tara 59:07 We did it. Dave 59:08 We did, and that's it for this episode of Extra Extra Hot Great. We took Paramount Plus' sitcom DMV for a spin before answering your burning-ass EHG questions like, what's the hot Halloween costume going to be, and where's the old person going? We didn't freeze out Sarah's pick for the tiny life hack canon. We celebrated those who weren't quite the best and worst of the week, took note of Cher's West Side Story performance in the debut of The World's Most Dangerous Musical Moments on TV, and wrapped that all up with over 30 ways to ruin TV's best shows. Next up, it's Boston Blue on EHG Prime. Remember! We're listening. I am David T. Cole, and on behalf of Tari Ariana. Tara 59:58 Everyone is happy and I am doing a great job so far. Dave 1:00:01 And Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 1:00:03 What smells like cat pee? Dave 1:00:05 Thanks for listening. And we'll see you next time right here on Extra, Extra. Hot Crip.