Is Black Doves Still Flying High?

Clip 00:04 If you've come here to kill me, you better fucking not have. I've got a goulash on. Dave 00:16 This is the Extra Hawk Rate Podcast, episode 640 for the week of November 9th, 2026. I am Lesbian Assassin House Boat David T. Cole, and I'm here with Safecracking Pep Talk Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 00:33 B E aggressive. Dave 00:35 Free willing First Lady of the United Kingdom, Tara Ariano, and Tara 00:38 Just out for a run in the park. Dave 00:40 befuddled Prime Minister Brian C. Grubb. Brian 00:43 What's going on? Tara 00:49 Welcome to Extra Hot Great for another week joining us for the first time. He is a writer and newsletterer. It's Brian Grub! Dave 00:58 Welcome, Brian. Tara 00:59 Welcome, Brian! Sarah 00:59 Brian Brian 01:01 Hello Tara 01:01 We're thrilled to have you to talk about Black Doves Season 2, in which As her spy handler read, Sarah Lancashire predicted in the first season of Black Doves Helen Webb, Keira Knightley has in fact seen her husband slash Mark Wallace, Andrew Buchan, become the Tory Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. This means Helen is spying at a whole new level, including things like brokering meetings between Wallace and a uh controversial Russian oligarch. Then Reed goes missing at the same time Helen's spy trainer and friend Sam, Ben Whishaw, gets arrested for murder and sprung the same night by a mysterious benefactor, or is he named Patrick, Sam O'Reilly Suddenly, Helen and Sam seem to be working at cross purposes with no idea whom they can trust other than each other, or can they? The show was created by Joe Barton, who also obviously created season one. He more recently brought us a season series adaptation of Amadeus starring Will Sharp and Paul Bettany. All six episodes of Black Doves season two dropped on Netflix November 5th. We may talk about events from any of them. Let's do the chen check-in. Brian, should our listeners watch Black Dove Season 2. Brian 02:08 Yeah. Tara 02:08 Sarah. Sarah 02:09 Yes Tara 02:10 Dave. Dave 02:11 Yeah Tara 02:12 Me too. Let's get into it. Having watched a lot of spy shows that get bogged down in too much plot that I am not capable of following I personally appreciate that basically almost every mission in this season is just go kill this person. Brian, do you agree or would you have liked a little more complexity? Brian 02:31 No. No, I I think a spy show sometimes can get a little too wrapped up in its own business. Tara 02:37 Mm-hmm. Brian 02:37 And you can kind of be, as a viewer, pulling apart various threads to try to figure out what's going on. And a lot of them take a lot of pleasure in hiding the ball from the viewer for a really long time. So I really like that this one is just we're getting a lot of attractive people, we're giving them guns, and we're having them be charming. Leading up to during and after the gun fights. Tara 02:59 True, yes, Dave. Dave 03:01 Yeah, I agree. If you sort of compare this to say Mr. and Mrs. Smith, it's all the crackling. It's like eighty percent the crackle, and then it's like twenty percent the befuddled prime minister in this car. So it's a it's a pretty good mix for a Netflix show and the saving grace as well, six episodes. Like, thank you. Not ten, not eight, six. Felt right. Tara 03:23 Mm-hmm, I agree. Sarah. Sarah 03:25 Yeah, I agree. I think the only issue here is that it is starting to strain the bounds of credulity Dave 03:30 Oh my god, yes, sure. Tara 03:31 Well, yes. Sarah 03:31 that she has no security, but it's also like Credulity is not why anyone is here. We're here to look at Keira Knightley looking perfect and shooting people and being f friends with Ben Whishaw and that's kind of it. And also like secondary character wisecracking slash glowering, like what it does well, you just have to focus on that and not on the fact that there is now this like house of Cards-ian level of non-credibility as far as their security situation. Dave 04:04 Yeah Sarah 04:05 Like, as one review pointed out, like, yeah, you look like Keira Knightley. There's no way you're just walking around London, no matter who you're married to, in the government, so Tara 04:13 Yeah, yes Sarah 04:14 okay. Dave 04:16 Yeah, I mean you do have to give yourself up to that. It's a little harder with a spy show because like spies are supposed to be uber competent, they're supposed to have their shit together, they're supposed to know things you don't know, and then when you realize that the Prime Minister's wife's big disguise is a really good pair of sunglasses, and it's basically Sarah 04:19 Yeah, totally. Mm-hmm Dave 04:32 like The they live glasses in reverse, nobody else can tell what's going on when you wear them, Tara 04:35 Mm-hmm. When she wears them, which isn't even all the time. Dave 04:37 you know, sure. That's true, it's just Sarah 04:40 Mm-hmm. Dave 04:40 not even consistent. But I mean Sarah 04:42 Well, 'cause Brian 04:42 The other Sarah 04:42 London, how much sun is there? Tara 04:44 Yeah. Dave 04:44 Give yourself up to it, right? Sarah 04:44 Come on. Tara 04:46 Sure, yeah. Dave 04:46 And then enjoy. Yeah. Brian 04:47 The other part of it too is like yes, security, yes, like, you know, stats keep her safe. But also, like, where is the British paparazzi on this show? The Prime Minister's wife is this gorgeous, you know, high fashion lady. who's running around murdering people and you're telling me no sc no scumbag with a camera is sitting in his car taking like uh you know long filter pictures of this lady selling them selling them to the tabloids. Tara 05:13 Mm-hmm Brian 05:13 Like I that that's the one that got me. It it does say something about the way I'm watching the show that my first thought wasn't, you know, like Secret Service Security. It was like scumbag paparazzi in a trench coat. Dave 05:24 Yeah. Tara 05:24 Totally. Dave 05:25 Especially Britain where like it has the reputation of being absolutely covered in close circuit television. Brian 05:27 Yeah. Tara 05:31 Yes, yes. Dave 05:31 So yeah. Brian 05:31 Yeah Tara 05:32 Also, I love that one of their clues that they get is like a you know a luggage tag or a retrieval tag that you can take to the train station, first of all. train station, notably not Paddington. It is King's Cross. Paddington is not uttered in this series for Ben Wish Brian 05:47 Mm-hmm Tara 05:47 Whishaw reasons, I suppose. But like Even that, she can take a claim tag to this luggage thing and the guy's like, Here you go, stranger. Like she's the most one of the most famous women in Britain, behind Reader Aura Dave 06:00 Yeah. Tara 06:00 probably, but anyway. Dave 06:00 My theory was that everybody thought she was Daisy Ridley from Star Wars. Tara 06:04 Y that's very possible too. Sarah 06:06 Mm-hmm. Brian 06:06 It's funny Tara 06:06 Sarah, given your love of Sarah Lancashire who plays Reed, I probably should have done a wellness check on you this weekend when she was put in jeopardy almost immediately this season. Are you okay? Sarah 06:16 I am okay. I did not we didn't end up watching since this is a uh household show Tara 06:22 Yeah Sarah 06:22 We did have to stop at a certain point, so I haven't watched any further than the first couple episodes, but I did put in my notes like Is this a mistake to take this actor off the board because she is a good balance to this sort of caustic action wit? For lack of a better phrase, that the rest of the show I think does really well, but uh I mean it's important to have it counterweighted by, you know, her husband's befuddlement and also Whatever baggage certain people are bringing in about that guy from Broadchurch. Tara 06:55 Yeah Sarah 06:56 Are are you okay? Will I be okay? Dave 06:59 I think you'll be okay. I actually I think w I'll go one step further as you're gonna enjoy what they do with that character. Tara 07:05 Mm-hmm. Dave 07:06 There is something that happens, and we should talk about it, but Sarah can take her headphones off. She doesn't want to get spoiled later. But there is an episode that has a trope that I usually hate, but I actually Quite enjoyed this one, and if they had to do a spin-off for the show, I wouldn't mind that setting being a spin-off for the show because I quite enjoyed it. It reminded me of another series that I quite enjoyed a lot, and that's all I'll say for now. Tara 07:28 Yep. Sarah 07:30 Okay, I think I know what you're talking about, so I can skip taking the headphones off. Dave 07:33 Okay, all right, great. Tara 07:33 Okay. Dave 07:34 All right, do you want to talk about that episode now then since we're on it? Okay, so Sarah 07:38 Sure. Dave 07:38 is it the fourth or fifth episode? Brian 07:40 That's the fourth. Dave 07:41 This a flashback episode told in three major sections, and the first section is a very Deutschland Sarah 07:47 Mm-hmm. Dave 07:49 80 Three, six, nine Tara 07:50 Mm-hmm. Sarah 07:50 Right, right. Dave 07:51 sort of take on the Berlin station where it turns out that Reed worked with a whole bunch of other people and all these things happen around it that we discover tie back in. to the case. And it was well constructed. The flashback towards the end of the season episode is something that I usually just sort of put my head down to start sobbing and crying about. But this one worked in the context of the plot for the season, and usually that's not the case. Tara 08:13 Yeah Dave 08:18 It's not stem to stern strong. I thought two of the segments were good. The third one felt unnecessary. The one where we going back to Helen's story with the assassination that is caught on camera Tara 08:28 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Dave 08:29 that they show in the first couple episodes, that part of it felt not as necessary as the Sam and Reed Sarah 08:36 Yeah. Dave 08:37 sections. But Brian 08:38 Yeah. Dave 08:38 I was impressed by the whole Cold War Berlin part of it. I enjoyed that. Tara 08:42 Brian, what were your thoughts on that one? Brian 08:44 Same. I a lot of times those, you know, we get toward the end of the season and then we do the almost obligatory flashback thing. I groan. Because I'm just like, that's i I want to watch like what's happening with my people now, you know? But the way that one was done was really well and the way the three sections kind of blended into each other to show you where you were going I ended up liking that episode a lot. And again, when you're when you've got a show like this that is paced so quickly usually to then have a whole episode where you're just like Let's go back. You're like, come on, guys. Tara 09:16 Yeah Brian 09:16 This isn't this is not why I'm watching the show. But no, I think it it that episode worked really well for me and the way it sort of teased out little details in each of the three sections. that brought you back to where you are in the show, that is what that kind of episode is supposed to be. Tara 09:33 Mm-hmm, I agree. Dave 09:33 Yeah. Yeah. Tara 09:34 It's the best version of what you can do with that. Brian 09:35 Yeah. Dave 09:35 It's like we uh most people have lost sight of the functionality of that sort of thing. Yeah, absolutely. Tara 09:40 Yeah. Brian 09:40 Yeah. Dave 09:40 Good call. Tara 09:41 Brian, when we first DM'd about having you on for this show, you said you were a sucker for the voice of Paddington playing a champagne-swilling assassin. Did Sam do enough? Champagne swelling amid his assassinations to satisfy you in season two. And relatedly, are you concerned about how much Coke he's doing now? Brian 09:58 I am, I am. I it it like the voices are just different enough. that you can kind of forget, but there are still some words that he says, and I wish I had written down which one specifically, but where you hear it, and if you close your eyes, you're like, that is Paddington. Tara 10:09 Mm-hmm. Brian 10:14 And I I know it. And the idea, just the concept of like Paddington going around doing cocaine, drinking champagne and murdering people, is Dave 10:20 Yeah. Tara 10:22 Yep. Brian 10:23 fascinating to me. The first time I watched season one, it took me a while to like get that out of my head. Where I was like watching I'd be watching the show and I'd completely miss like ten minutes of the action because I'd be thinking about Paddington Sarah 10:38 You're picturing a bear in a little hat Brian 10:38 doing all these things. Uh-huh. Sarah 10:40 doing this stuff. Brian 10:40 Yeah, go it. Screwing it a silencer. Tara 10:43 Yeah. Sarah 10:43 Mm-hmm. Brian 10:44 Going into Sarah 10:44 Or Brian 10:45 the thing. Sarah 10:45 screwing, period. Brian 10:45 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Tara 10:48 Yep Brian 10:48 Yeah, no, but it's I I feel bad for Ben Whishaw because I mean what are you gonna do, right? Like Tara 10:54 Mm-hmm. Brian 10:54 you're Paddington, I'm sorry Dave 10:55 Yeah. Tara 10:56 Yeah. Brian 10:56 guy. Dave 10:56 Yeah. Brian 10:56 But Tara 10:57 I think he's okay. Brian 10:57 no it I think he's doing fine. Sarah 10:58 Yeah. Dave 10:58 Yeah, is Brian 10:59 I think he's doing fine. Dave 10:59 all right. Brian 11:00 But yeah, I I uh that's one of the things that drew me into the show when I first started was just I saw this guy doing stuff and it's like, come on, the voice of Paddington is killing people. Dave 11:07 Yeah. Brian 11:09 God Dave 11:10 Now that you put it out in the world, somebody's gonna absolutely make Brian 11:10 bless Dave 11:13 You know, do a deep fake of Paddington doing all the Sam Tara 11:14 Oh, yes. Brian 11:16 Sure. Dave 11:16 stuff spooning with his boyfriend in bed. Sarah 11:17 Oh yeah. Dave 11:18 Yeah. Brian 11:18 Yeah, sure Sarah 11:19 I mean, yes, positive uses for AI.my first exposure to Whishaw was when he was playing Keats. You can sort of map that persona and that role onto a lot of his future roles. So watching this as like, you know, the the sort of consumptive parrot. Tara 11:38 Mm-hmm. Sarah 11:39 Screwing in silencers and screwing. Someone who drops off the post at his uh at his hotel suite is uh really something, but I think that's a credit to him. Dave 11:47 Yeah. Tara 11:48 Yeah, for those who don't know, he played John Keats in the movie Bright Star, which you can you can rent at the usual places. And you should, it's great. Sarah 11:56 Mm-hmm. Dave 11:56 He was also the quartermaster in the Bond film, so he has experience in this uh Tara 11:58 He was Q, yes. Dave 12:00 this realm. Tara 12:00 And I have to talk about a little Brian 12:01 Yeah. Tara 12:03 his glorious hair in this season, especially. Dave 12:05 Oh my God. Tara 12:06 At one point one of the lady assassins calls him Fidel Sarah 12:07 Mm-hmm. Tara 12:08 Sassu and Dave 12:09 Yeah Tara 12:09 like Step off, my boy. That's hair that I have brought a picture of to the hair salon as a woman. To be like, this is give me the Ben Whishaw SQ. Dave 12:18 There's two people's hair that make me angry in twenty Tara 12:18 Thank you. Dave 12:22 twenty six. Tara 12:22 Mm-hmm. Dave 12:23 Him and Dan Blau. Tara 12:24 Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Damn and roadie. Dave 12:26 Yeah, Dan Blue Rogge, yeah. Tara 12:27 Mm-hmm. Dave 12:28 Yeah. Their hair is just too good and makes me angry. Sarah 12:30 Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's annoying. Brian 12:33 I've been rocking a buzz cut for like fifteen years now. So whenever I see people with hair like that, I get a mix of jealousy. And just thinking like I don't ever want to have to deal with that. Dave 12:45 Well, yeah. Brian 12:46 But you you look at you look at his head Again, it's one of those where if you want to unpack it to ridiculous degrees you can and be like, I don't even know when this guy has time to shampoo Let alone, you know, kind of his hair looking like that. He's got a I'm I'm sure he's not cutting himself between missions. He's got a salon somewhere, so Tara 13:04 Mm-hmm. The really hot people I think don't wash their hair that much. He's probably just putting in hair oil and like just going on with his life. Dave 13:13 It did look slick Sarah 13:14 Mm-hmm. Dave 13:14 at points for sure. Tara 13:14 Mm-hmm. Dave 13:15 Yeah. Tara 13:16 The magic trick that I think the first season did was introducing us to these two very charismatic spies, Helen and Sam, and then also giving us Elenore, played by Gabrielle Creevy from Dave. 1 KB and Williams, played by Ella Lily Dave 13:30 Oh Tara 13:30 Highland. Dave 13:30 yeah. Tara 13:31 Yeah, she's one of the good ones. Dave 13:32 She's one of the elephants, right? Tara 13:34 Yeah. Dave 13:34 Yeah. Tara 13:35 No, I think she's in the Goodson family. Yeah. Anyway, those two kind of blow Helen and Sam off the screen, in my opinion, whenever they are around, with the addition also of Layla Joshi, played by Ambika Mode. Are the leads too much in the shade? Brian, what did you think? Brian 13:52 I I talked about this with someone I was talking about the show with recently, and I said Williams and Elenore are the classic situation of like, do I want that to be the whole show? Tara 14:02 Right. Brian 14:03 Or do I want exactly as much of it as I'm getting to make it worthwhile? Tara 14:07 Mm-hmm. Brian 14:09 My first thought whenever I see characters is like this, give me a spin-off entirely about those people. Like where are they? Tara 14:13 Yeah. Brian 14:14 What are they doing right now? Like I'm fascinated by them. But I do wonder if it would work as a whole show, right? So it is it is funny though we go from we get our main characters, we mostly get like grounded in like reality. Tara 14:28 Yeah. Brian 14:28 And then we've got these other people having conversations about whether or not they should start dating each other while they're firing off automatic weapons through a window at a great number of people who are trying to murder them. So Tara 14:40 Mm-hmm. Brian 14:40 If it worked for me in the doses it is, I would be concerned that overdoing it would overdo it. Uh I mean I could be swayed either way. What did you guys think? Dave 14:49 I like the balance. I thought I never thought, oh, this is too much now. And it just like left me like, oh, I could use like Another one more scene maybe, and then that's perfect. That's leaving me wanting more, but I you know, I don't think a spin-off necessarily would work unless it's a very different sort of more guy Richie-esque sort of take on those people and their lives in the murdering world. Tara 15:12 Yeah Dave 15:12 Yeah, because the scenes with them were very funny. Sarah 15:13 Mm-hmm. Dave 15:15 The whole murder playlist in the car thing was very funny. Tara 15:18 Yeah. Dave 15:18 to see so like that reminded me of a certain tone that sort of belongs a little bit more to a separate project but I'm perfectly happy with what I'm getting here Brian 15:26 Yeah. The conversation about Shrek at the beginning of the fourth episode before all the the the flashbacks happened Tara 15:32 Yeah. Brian 15:34 Like I was just watching that just cracking up. And again, the way the one thing the show does well, well it does a couple things well, it bounces tone so well to go from like these moments where you're cracking up to then these moments where you're like, if this person dies, I might cry. Dave 15:48 Yeah. Brian 15:48 You know, which is which is something Dave 15:50 Don't you also think there's a very sort of generational dynamic happening here where all the characters that are new are very sort of like gen uh Z sort of coded and then you know we've got the old sort of millennial Gen Xy sort of not Gen X, but Tara 16:06 No, they're well elder millennials. Dave 16:07 Yeah, Elder Millennials. Tara 16:09 Mm-hmm. Dave 16:09 And that dynamic does play. So you get sort of a goofier TikTok energy from the three new or sorry, from the uh Williams, Elenore and Layla. And I really enjoyed Layla a lot too. Tara 16:21 Mm-hmm. Dave 16:22 She's a little bit more of the psychotic killer end of things, which plays well with everybody she has to interact with. Brian 16:25 Yeah. Tara 16:28 Yeah. Dave 16:28 So no no complaints here either. Tara 16:29 Sarah, what did you think of the as much of you of her as you've seen? Sarah 16:33 When we saw Williams and Elenore again, we both like made a little made squeaking sounds on our couch that was like, Oh, they're back I wouldn't say their seasoning exactly, but it's like it's a good enough part of the plate. Tara 16:46 Mm-hmm. Sarah 16:47 Right? Tara 16:47 Yep. Sarah 16:47 Like it's not too much of the ingredient. It's not banana in the smoothie. I think the guy Richie comparison is apt from Dave because like there's something about the timing of their like banter and wisecracking with each other that reminds me of um that moment where Dennis Farina is like storming through customs and they're like, anything to declare? He's like, yeah, don't go to England. I don't know, like I I like that vibe, which is like, yes, the body count on this show is extremely high, and yet Dave 17:13 Yeah. Sarah 17:19 it's really funny and not taking that part too seriously. Dave 17:22 Yeah. Sarah 17:22 It's quite cartoonish in that way, and I don't hate it. Dave 17:25 The other part that reminded me of Guy Ritchie and I'm not complaining about is the accents. Tara 17:25 Yeah. Dave 17:29 You know, there are Brian 17:30 Yeah. Dave 17:30 to my ears delightful and I could listen to it all day. Tara 17:33 Yes, just another footnote, Dennis Farina is in Snatch. You can find that at all of the usual places. And also if you want to see Ben Whishaw and Ambika mode acting together in another project. They were previously in this is going to hurt. Very different tone. Dave 17:47 Good show though, I enjoyed that show too. Sarah 17:48 Mm Tara 17:48 Really good show, but not Dave 17:49 Yeah. Sarah 17:50 -hmm. Tara 17:50 not the most fun. Very well done. Dave 17:52 If you want to take a break from thinking about your shitty healthcare and then you want to watch a show about some other country's shitty healthcare, there you go. Tara 17:59 For those of us who got far enough to see Nev Campbell as U. S. Defense Department Envoy, Cecile Mason, thoughts, Brian? Brian 18:08 Uh I again I don't want to like give away what happens with her at the end or whatever, but I kept thinking there was gonna be so much more Tara 18:14 Mm-hmm. Dave 18:17 Yeah, yeah. Brian 18:18 for this character to do. Tara 18:18 Yeah Brian 18:19 Because I I was like I was like, oh that's Dev Campbell. That's cool. I wonder what they're gonna have her do. And most of it was walking through a hallway and telling people the president's angry. Dave 18:28 Yeah. Tara 18:28 Yeah. Brian 18:28 And I was thinking like, you could have had anyone do that. Sarah 18:32 Mm-hmm. Brian 18:33 But I mean, good for Nev Campbell, God bless her. Tara 18:35 Mm-hmm. Brian 18:35 It's one of those things where you you cast a actor with enough history that the audience of millennials is gonna clock it and be like, oh shit, that's Nev Campbell. Tara 18:46 Yeah, I think that's a good one. Brian 18:46 I I think every one of her conversations was either about like how the president was angry or how they needed to do something now and weren't doing it. And it was just like, like I said, you could have had anyone do that. Dave 18:58 Yeah. Yep. Tara 19:00 Mm-hmm. Yep, it's true Well, good show. It sounds like we all agree. Black Doves. It's uh and it's also a Christmas show. So if you want to save it and watch it in December for that festive feeling, it's Dave 19:12 That's right. Tara 19:13 it's there for you. Lots of red, not much green Sarah 19:14 mhm Brian 19:15 Hey, I did have one other thing I wanted to ask. Do you guys are you guys slow horses watchers? Tara 19:19 Oh Dave 19:19 Yeah. Tara 19:20 yeah. Brian 19:21 Okay. So I had just watched the last season of Slow Horses when I started my rewatch of season one of this show. Which again, God Usually I want a show with more than six or ten episodes because sometimes I feel like I'm getting cheated. But this one was perfect. So I rolled right from one end to the other. And I spent the first few episodes of my rewatch picturing in my head a conversation between Jackson Lamb and Mrs. Reed about the natures of spycraft Sarah 19:47 Oh Tara 19:47 Oh Sarah 19:47 my God Tara 19:47 my God Brian 19:49 As much as much as I want to see like Pat that AI of Paddington murdering people, uh that that would be my other one. Just the two of them sitting down over coffee discussing their various takes on Spycraft Tara 19:59 Tea, tea, or whiskey, yes Dave 20:00 Yeah. Brian 20:01 T, my apologies. Sarah 20:02 Mm-hmm. Dave 20:02 May may I overcomplicate your scenario and I think Brian 20:06 Please Dave 20:07 the timing and the casting for everybody involved also means we have to roll in the diplomat into this. Tara 20:12 Yes, mm hmm. Sarah 20:13 Oh yeah. Brian 20:13 Sure. Tara 20:14 Yep. Dave 20:14 Okay, great. Sarah 20:14 Uh huh. Dave 20:14 I'm glad we're all in agreement. Brian 20:15 Let's get weird. Clip 20:21 Got a lot of shows. It's a great time for shows. Dave 20:25 Alright, it's time to go around the dial talking about shows we've been watching recently, our first stop, Tara. Tara 20:31 Sarah and I are interviewing the off -campus executive producer Gina Fatora next week for our sister podcast again with this. So I watched all of off campus this weekend. This is the other hockey romance of recent-ish months, but this one is all about straight college students, if anything, a little too straight in my opinion. Hannah, played by Ella Bright, is a not well-off aspiring film composer. Her work study job at the hockey stadium on the campus of Briar University brings her into contact. with the Hawks captain Garrett, played by Belmont Cameli from the new Save by the Bell. They've Greeked the University, Breyer University, but he has already been drafted to the Bruins as opposed to heated rivalry where the teams are fake. Anyway, their meat cute is that she's picking up laundry in the locker room. She sees them in the shower. When he finds out that she is acing the philosophy class, he improbably needs to do well in to maintain his playing eligibility. He asks her to tutor him in exchange for which, on top of paying her, he will pretend to be her boyfriend to make her more compelling to Justin, Josh Houston. The scenstery guy that she is a hopeless crush on. Guys, you're never gonna guess what happens when Hannah and Garrett are pretending to be in love They fall in love for real. The show is based on a book series by L. Kennedy. The lead characters have more depth than I probably would have expected going in Garrett. Is the son of a now retired hockey star played by Steve Howie from Shameless? There's family stuff between them that's well done and surprisingly dark Hannah is also known among her friends for never drinking alcohol in public because of a bad experience a friend of hers had with an uncovered drink in high school. You can fill in the blanks, but mostly it is just Romantic hijinks between the leads, also all of their various friends. I know each book is about a different couple. I think the next season is about Ali played by Mika Abdallah. And another hockey guy named Dean, played by Steven Kalen, who I belatedly realized when the scene the season was almost over, was reminding me of one of the sons from Ha Ha You Clowns, but like a cute version of him? Anyway I hope a future season focuses on Allie and Hannah's queer friend Dexter, played by Miles Gutierrez Riley from Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pack, now streaming on Netflix He deserves it. He was pretty much a eunuch in season one. And also, if you wish you could see more of Jalen Thomas Brooks as Mateo in the pit, he's also here as yet another hockey player and So far, unfortunately, has almost nothing to do but cook for his roommates and wear Imogene and Willie t-shirts to communicate that he is from the Southwest. But I am now hooked on the hockey cuties, maybe mostly because I want the former Jamie Spano from Saved by the Bell to be happy and also see his abs a lot. Speaking of him and his abs There's a full frontal locker scene later in the season. They definitely recruited extras from the part of Vancouver where no one is circumcised, so look out for that. From my plug, circumcision, just kidding. You can join us on the Again with This Club to hear our interview with Gina Fator someday very soon. It's happening on Monday. We'll drop sometime after that. Again, with this podcast. com slash club, you can get in for the same rates as getting into the Extra Hot Great Club. It is $4 a month if you go for an annual membership, $5 a month otherwise, and we would love to see you there. Dave 23:51 All right, Brian, what do you got for us? Brian 23:54 I'll be really quick. I believe next week the is the debut of the show Kunk on Cinema, which is the character Philomena Kunk played by Diane Morion. created I think mostly by Charlie Brooker from Black Mirror and like in collaboration with all them. This character has done a they do like fake documentaries where she goes around and she's interviewing stuff and the character is such a bozo. and so like out of it and just one of those people who thinks they know stuff and don't know anything and it's really well done by Diane Morgan to do this because it's really hard to play an idiot convincingly without overdoing it. And she does so well, especially in the interviews with back and forth with people. I watched Kunk on Earth a while ago and I loved it. I watched Kunk on Life a while ago. So when I saw the trailer for Kunk On Cinema and saw her sitting down with Michael Bay, I immediately almost gasped. I was like like I saw a ghost. I was like, oh Oh, this is this is fantastic. Because I can't imagine Michael Bay being self-aware enough to fully understand. Like, like I know he's gonna get that it's a bit. He's not an idiot, but he's kind of an idiot. But he's not that much of an idiot. And again, I told you I've been coming off watching all these spy shows, like all these serious, but I've been watching all these and I needed one to unwind. And a lot of these episodes are like 15 minutes long. Tara 25:05 Mm-hmm. Brian 25:08 And you can just flick them up on Netflix and just laugh for a few minutes and just it's another thing about the show that I like is it what it's one where you have to pay attention. Because there will be mispronunciations of words where you'll you'll think you heard it wrong and then you'll go back, you'll be like, oh no, she said it's just these little touches that are so funny and so charming and It's really one of my favorite things and I'm thrilled to have it coming back soon. Dave 25:34 We haven't watched the screeners yet, but are we getting more my mate Paul material? Brian 25:39 I I didn't get I didn't get far enough to know. I got god only hope so Tara 25:43 There's only three episodes, so you might have already watched them all. That's all there is for the season, unfortunately. But it is this Sunday, the fifteenth And we are very excited in our household too. Also, Brian, wink wink, nudge, nudge. There's other Cunk stuff that only aired in the UK. So we will uh we'll we'll talk to you offline about how to get those to you. Brian 25:59 Oh I know. Dave 26:02 We'll get you a ticket. Tara 26:04 Mm-hmm. And for your plugs. Brian 26:06 And for my plugs, I have a newsletter like every other writer in the country. My newsletter is called TypeClick Type. It goes out twice a week. There's one on uh usually goes out Tuesday or Wednesdays that's free. Which is just kinda whatever the usually TV or films, sometimes about I love like a good heist story. So if there's some ridiculous heist about people stealing some ridiculous product I may write about that. And there's a bunch of links to things that I read and saw. And then on Fridays, I have one for paid subscribers where I count down my five favorite things of the week. The whole thing is fifty bucks a year. It works out to a little less than a buck a week. Fifty cents a newsletter is decent value for what I'm providing, which is I I Dave 26:43 Oh god. Yeah. Brian 26:45 I feel that I feel that is both bragging and underselling myself at the same time Dave 26:48 Mm-hmm. Tara 26:50 Excellent. Sarah 26:50 Gig economy Dave 26:51 Alright, check your show notes for links to that and sign up. Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 26:58 I'm here to talk about OJsimpson. Again, OJ's Accomplice came out last week on Peacock, the thesis, as you've probably deduced from the title. Is that O. J. Simpson did not act alone in the murders of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman? Maybe he couldn't have acted alone. LEPD and the prosecutors ignored or failed to take seriously evidence to that effect. I tried to keep an open mind. I really did. I agree with the filmmakers and full disclosure, uh one of the executive producers is a friend slash colleague of mine that a handful of components of and figures in this case haven't ever come out far enough. from the shadows for us to really get our minds around them. I think it's probable that cocaine played a bigger role in these murders than we traditionally talk about. But as I was watching OJ's Accomplice, I just kept thinking about projects like face-to-face with Scott Peterson and to a lesser extent the Errol Morris broadside against Jeffrey McDonald's entire trial. That two things can be true. law enforcement and officers of the court can do their jobs imperfectly or like actively badly, but that none of the new or excluded evidence is probative, even if you get it into the case file That's where I sort of landed after OJ's Accomplice ended, which it also did kind of abruptly. The two-parter did get rushed through the edit phase. I know that. Possibly because uh the New York Times had just run a lengthy piece on the allegations by one Sam Ippolito that his older brother, the late drug runner Joey Jr. was present at the crime scene and had abetted Simpson during and after the crime. Possibly it was because it had become clear via that piece that Ippolito might have a teensy credibility problem. But the real issue with O J's accomplice is, first of all, it's operating from the stance that information we don't have about these murders is transformative, and second, that the information it does have merits nearly two hours of audience time, when it doesn't. It tried to get juice, as it were, worth the squeeze. It does the best it can with what it has. It just doesn't have anything really, which makes it feel too long, even at like 115 minutes. Anyway, my full review is on Best Evidence. That's bestevidence. fyi. We'll link it in the show notes. And I'm running a sale at Exhibit B Books. That's my True Crime Bookshop. There's major case materials on sale right now through the rest of the month. If you would like to investigate this case or any other headline case on your own, hop on over. The cart does the arithmetic. Clip 29:38 Ah, true crash. Dave 29:45 Alright, coming up this Friday on our club episode on Extra Extra Hawk Rate, it is Mullah Dash 4. Just recorded. It was a banger. Boy, it starts out weird. Dan Casino ran this one this year. He read selflessly the Jim Mullen memoir that we talked about last year that we discovered. Yes, we're putting air quotes on that one for sure. But it was a lot of fun. We thank Dan for his sacrifice, and that's coming at you this Friday. Club members only, if you want to be one of those members, you want to go to Extra Hot. Great. com slash club. It helps support this podcast and the people who make it. So go there, sign up, please, and then come back here next week. EHG Prime. We're going to be bringing back Bobby Finger, who had to cancel on us recently. We're going to be talking about the good daughter now. The good daughter. Not the bad one, the good one. Aha, finally, he's back. It is time for the Canon presenting this week. It is our guest, Brian. Brian, take it away. Brian 30:55 I would like to present an episode of television that I love very much that aired in, I believe, 2016. It is the fourth episode of the second season of the show Zoo. It is called The Walls of Jericho. Zoo, if you are not familiar, was a short-lived television show on CBSbased loosely on a book by James Patterson. The general plot is that the animals of the world have undergone a mutation. that causes them to act out often in hilarious and violent ways. There are uh any number of animal-based calamities going on. I encourage everyone I don't believe it's streaming anywhere, which is so upsetting to me. Tara 31:35 You can buy it, but yeah, it's not on a subscription service. Brian 31:38 I bought this episode to watch it and I think I will never delete it. It makes me so happy. It stars James Wolfe, best known as Bob Benson from Mad Men, which is one of the reasons I cued into it. This episode features some of the silliest things I've ever seen. on a network procedural and the main thing going on is at the end there is a sloth heist and I I A bunch of people uh dressed in formal wear stealing a sloth makes me very happy. But I think the best place to start would be to play the first clip now, which is a little longer, but it's gonna set up where we are. Clip 32:19 What do you got? So the vultures and ants found a way to alter our environment. I may have found another. General Davies transferred this animal to Vancouver yesterday. According to his report, it says that this sloth was capable of creating an earthquake in Costa Rica. I'm sorry. Come again. Says here the sloth has developed. A call that can generate a low frequency infrasound, really? And that can cause an earthquake? I don't know. I mean, a few years ago at a football game in Seattle, the Seahawks fans were jumping and cheating. so much that it actually registered on a nearby seismograph. So you seeing that General Davies report is correct? We need that sloth. Dave 33:05 We need that slot. Brian 33:06 Yeah. Sarah 33:07 Fucking Brian 33:07 Yeah. Sarah 33:07 A Brian 33:08 Yeah. So I mean I I don't know what I can say that could possibly either explain that or up it, but Ending on we need that sloth. I'd forgotten that line and it made me so happy. The other thing to remember to learn is that when they're talking about this general, this is an evil four-star general who is trying to initiate a plan to wipe out all of these animals that have gone through this mutation with the quote unquote goal of saving humanity. Which also, subplot, would kill like millions of humans who have the same thing. So our team, led by Bob Benson, is Tara 33:45 Yep. Brian 33:45 in an airplane bought for them by like the wife of the secretary is a billionaire. It's stacked stocked with a full bar This that's where they are where they're discussing this on an airplane flying around the world. It is the most CBS procedural show. I've ever seen. So but this is where it sets us up where that we get to we need that sloth. The next clip I'm gonna have you play doesn't advance the plot so much. As much as it does tell you everything you need to know about the dialogue on the show. So let's play clip two Clip 34:18 Moles. Moles? Yeah. You got moles? Moles and sloths. Sounds like my dating life after I got. The Tara 34:29 Hell Clip 34:30 worst Tara 34:30 yeah. Dave 34:31 Yeah Sarah 34:32 Oh my God. Brian 34:35 Again, perfect. Right? And at this at this point I should point out that they're you're getting ready to crawl through a tunnel underneath a facility that collapsed that it housed the sloth. the facility collapsed because genetically altered moles had built tunnels under it that caused the hole and caused it to collapse. And while they are down there they are sub surprised by a uh chopping alligator, a crocodile that proceeds to chase them out of the the holes. So again, I should put this is all 42 minutes of television and we are barely 15 minutes into the episode Where we get to here is where we get to the point where our very brave team needs to plan on stealing the sloth for their own reasons for testing it and do it. I'll be perfectly honest, there's a lot of this that I don't remember at all. and almost kind of like it more than I don't. Where I'll I'll watch something Dave 35:26 Yep. Brian 35:27 like, why are they doing that? And there's an instinct in my brain to say, like, I should Google that. And then the second voice in my head goes like, no, no. Tara 35:33 No. Dave 35:34 Brian, let the mystery be. Sarah 35:35 No, don't Brian 35:37 That's right. That's right. This uh prestige television at its finest. So you know what's funny is I sent you the third clip. I don't even remember what it is, so I'm really excited to find out what the third clip has hit it Dave 35:47 Okay, great. It's art imitating life. Here we go. Clip 35:55 I need you to keep going. What are you doing? Initiating plan B. Chloe, there's nothing left to follow. I need you to keep moving. Keep moving where, Chloe. Where are we headed? Come on, what do you want us to do next? Hold on. I'm about to find the sloth. Go back! Go back! Go back! Brian 36:22 Well now I'm feeling bad that I spoiled the alligator for everybody. Tara 36:25 It's all right. They needed to know what it sounded like. Brian 36:28 Oh god. Again, just picture these people crawling through a tunnel looking for moles, and out of nowhere there's an alligator. And that sums up Zoo as a television show Dave 36:37 Yeah. Sarah 36:38 mhm, yeah Brian 36:38 i i in the whole, just about as good as anything ever could. Dave 36:40 An alligator with glowing eyes for some reason, by the way. Tara 36:43 Yeah, mm hmm, yeah Brian 36:43 Well, why wouldn't it have glowing eyes? Dave 36:44 Yeah, of course. Brian 36:45 I mean, come on. There's also in a previous episode of there's electrocharged ants that like were coming together to form like Voltron type things where they were coming like big huge arms and going around and shocking people and I I mean some of the some of the things that have I would have killed to be in the writer's room of this show just because there's it feels like there's nothing you could pitch that people would turn away from. Dave 37:10 Yeah. Brian 37:10 It would just they would just roll with whatever you got. And I actually have a thing I want to share after the last clip, which I'm going to tell you something little behind-the-scenes info that I discovered a long time ago that made me really happy. Dave 37:20 Oh hot scoop Brian 37:22 Yeah, so we're coming into the last clip, we've got they are at this gala, they are trying to find the missing sloth. They are undercover. They are scrolling through. They've cornered the general. And then that'll bring us to the fourth clip. Clip 37:38 Oh look, the gang's all here. Do you have any idea how many soldiers I have in this building? My guess is about 30. And every one of them is focused on the room with 200 VIPs.where's the sloth? You took a four-star general hostage for a sloth? Well this is a first and it's gonna land you in deep Where's the sloth? Brian 38:11 Right. Audio audio doesn't quite do it justice, so let me paint you a picture. Sarah 38:13 Oh Brian 38:15 This is again Bob Benson from Madmin, Jane Wilk, in a tuxedo, in a tunnel. Not a tunnel like they were digging through, like the uh underneath a building And he's talking to a four-star general and he backhand slaps him in the face and says, Where's the sloth? Which is uh an animated gift that I made immediately afterwards. And have sent to everybody ever like whenever anyone needs to bring up a ridiculous line of television, I bring it up. It's one of my favorite moments in television history. Where's the sloth? Slapping a four-star general Tara 38:44 Yep. Brian 38:44 What I learned uh later when the show was canceled, it made me cry, one of the writers and producers of the show reached out to me on Twitter when I still use Twitter and told me that that slap was not scripted. It was it was an ad-lib slap. And then I went back and I found an uh article that Caroline Frankie wrote about it. And she interviewed James Wolk to ask him about this claim because I had immediately put it on a social media that was unscripted and made me very happy. Tara 39:14 Mm-hmm. Brian 39:15 And he said in the in the article, he said, I can't believe that's true. So he went back and looked through his notes, and sure enough, it was not in the script. So it was either adlant in the moment or it was discussed briefly beforehand, but just the idea of an unscripted slap to the face of a four-star general While shouting, Where's the sloth? Other things happened in this episode. There's a whole thing with a lady in the woods who gets her toe chopped off. It's not important at all Uh this episode for that moment, the slap and wears the sloth, when you guys said Brian choose an episode of television for the canon, that jumped into my head so fast and I'm so happy to be able to share it with everybody else. Tara 39:53 Thank God. I'm gonna go first because this was from the same era as Brian. I was sort of like you for Zoo with Under the Dome. That was my CBS three season. I mean you say that Zoo was sort short-lived. It did last three seasons. That's not nothing Sarah 40:09 Mm-hmm. Brian 40:10 Yes or nothing. Tara 40:11 Thirty-nine episodes, you know, for a summer replacement show, pretty good. And a lot of those shows, the other one, the one where Holly Berry Holly Berry went to space And came back like surprise pregnant, even though Dave 40:21 Next stand. Tara 40:23 Extant that's another one that somehow lasted three seasons on CBS in the summer in the 20 teens. Anyway This is so much more fun than Under the Dome, which is just preposterous. This has the clarity of a James Patterson vision, and I say that as a compliment. Do with like it's sort of like what we were saying about black doves, which was you don't want the spy shit to get too complicated. This is literally just Animals are going buck wild, including bucks, and so we have to figure out how to solve this problem. And it has all of these, you know, knock-on effects, and that's how you get a whole episodic season out of it. But at its core, it is as simple as we need that sloth because the sloth could c create an earthquake. Dave 41:09 Yeah. Tara 41:09 Like it's So it's so stupid and so good. Up to and including when we see of the capture of the slots, which like I don't think you need two commandos to get a slot They're kind of famously slow. You can probably one guy is plenty. Dave 41:24 It would be great though if they broke it out of the soundproof case that it's in, and it turns out one of the things that happened to the sloth is this fucking like Tara 41:28 Mm-hmm. Dave 41:32 rage zombie from twenty-eight days fast Tara 41:32 Right, it's yes, sure, yes. Dave 41:34 now, yeah. Just scurrying along like a spider along the floor. Tara 41:37 That would have been nice to see. Um, and perhaps that is something that you they see in a future episode. I we don't know. But all I have to say about this one is like you've captured uh just the clips alone. You could have just played those four clo clips and really gotten across. the crazy joy of watching this incredibly stupid, delightful show. So thank you for bringing it to us. It's extremely important. Sarah. Sarah 42:00 My notes from watching this episode look like I am having seven strokes at one time Tara 42:09 Uh huh. Sarah 42:09 Here are some lines of dialogue that I wrote down. Humans share 50% of their DNA with bananas. I'm evolving, yeah, but not in a good way. Tara 42:20 Yeah. Sarah 42:22 So I've been restored to my factory settings. A dead end, literally. We need that heart print and One of the all-time lines of television in my opinion. So, they teach you Mickey slipping in doctor school This should be in the entire Western canon. Never mind. Never mind just ours. Other trivia about this, like Three seasons is an absolutely demented thing to have happened on network TV.there is an episode later in this season called Sex Lies and Jellyfish. Tara 43:02 Great. Sarah 43:03 What The Bob Benson character's actual name, I think, is Jackson Oz. Tara 43:08 That's correct. Brian 43:09 It is Sarah 43:09 And his parents are played by Ken Olin and Bess Armstrong. Tara 43:14 WHAH Dave 43:14 Wow. Tara 43:16 Oh, I did know that Bess Armstrong was in this. I I had a note for us to talk about the show and next year for again with again with this proceed. Sarah 43:22 And there's so many times in which, like, whatever scene Billy Burke is in isla it's like Billy Burke thinks that he's in like a I don't even know, Catskills reenactment of the show and not the actual show and everybody is freaking out or getting at by wolves or fighting over money or not understanding how fire works. And Billy Burke is just like, take my ex-wife. Like, okay. Tara 43:48 Mm-hmm Sarah 43:49 This was deranged, but also an extreme pleasure. And uh, we really do need that sloth. And To know where's the sloth, because it raises some existential questions about TV, casting, and uh banana DNA.thank you for bringing this to us, Brian. Dave. Dave 44:09 Yeah. First of all, I think we need that slaw should be the next prize sticker for answering Ask Sarah 44:15 Mm-hmm. Dave 44:15 Ask EHG questions correctly. Tara 44:17 Agreed. Dave 44:17 Okay, alright, I'll make that happen. Brian, I will send you a bunch. This argument really is one of my favorite things about the canon, which is a show that is so stupid and so bad that it completely turns around again to being high entertainment. Sarah 44:34 Mm-hmm. Dave 44:34 And we're not talking strictly prestigie shows and shows with a lot of important capital I things to say. When we're talking about the canon. There is lots of great crap in the canon. There's a couple episodes of Beverly Hills 90210. There's some really stupid campy Game of Thrones stuff in there. Tara 44:53 America's necktop model. Dave 44:54 Yes, exactly. Tara 44:55 Yeah. Sarah 44:55 Mm-hmm. Dave 44:56 So this belongs in the canon because it is one of the best exemplars of bonkers TV from a particular era that we can provide Like the premise of this show seems to be, what if heroes, the TV show, but animals? Insofar that the writer's room gets to just think of, I don't know, a sloth that causes earthquakes? Sarah 45:13 Mm-hmm. Dave 45:17 How's that work? Doesn't matter Tara 45:18 Mm-hmm. Dave 45:19 He just points at your head and he gains your powers. Well, how does that work? Is he eat your brains? Doesn't matter. Let's just do it. Tim Kring has like got his stamp and he's like, boom, approved. This show seems like the same sort of thing, which is just like, I don't know. It's a crocodile. All right, what's this thing? It's got glowing eyes, so you can see it in the tunnel. Why's it got glowing eyes? Because it does, and that's all you need to get it on the script. Sarah 45:39 Yeah. Also, it sounds like a mountain lion. Dave 45:42 It does. Sarah 45:43 Sure. Dave 45:43 Yeah. Sarah 45:44 Let's go. Dave 45:44 Well that's a great thing. As soon as you have mutations, anything's on the table. Doesn't matter. They look a little funny in the CGI, that's the mutation. Sarah 45:49 Mm-hmm. Dave 45:52 So this was just really, really fun. My big problem with zoo is that the animal scenes are so stupidly entertaining when there's no animals on the screen, you're always asking. Where's the animals? Tara 46:06 Yeah. Sarah 46:06 Mm-hmm. Dave 46:07 So that's Brian 46:07 Well Dave 46:08 like Sarah 46:08 Where is the sloth, really? Dave 46:08 th I I am praising it Brian 46:10 it Dave 46:11 in that regard. There are a couple lulls of about seven, eight, nine minutes where there's no animals in this episode. And you do sort of like I wish there was some Earthquake causing sloth or some moles that can bring down a building and just like all these stupid things that happened this episode Some other things that were in this episode that I've that I liked. Renfield from Energy Mogul Dracula series is here. Not a great actor, but I was happy to see him because of my love. As much as you love Zoo, Brian, I love Energy mogul Dracula from around the same period. Tara 46:44 Around the same time with Jonathan Reese Dave 46:45 Yeah. Sarah 46:45 Yeah Dave 46:46 Yeah, yeah. Tara 46:46 Myers, yeah. Dave 46:47 And he was runfield from that. The forest scenes that Brian rightfully dismissed, just the weakest part of this, uh, they all take place in New Brunswick, Canada, home of fiddleheads. Sarah 46:54 Yeah, yep. Tara 46:57 Mm-hmm. Fiddleheads Dave 46:59 And somehow they were out in the forest with all the ferns around them. Nobody mentioned fiddleheads. Tara 47:03 Yep. Dave 47:04 So I will. Tara 47:04 Mm-hmm. Dave 47:05 Fiddleheads. That one was for you, Dan. Tara 47:07 There's also a wolf attack in that segment, which is the only part worth watching Sarah 47:10 Mm-hmm. Dave 47:11 Yep. Tara 47:11 of that storyline. Dave 47:13 Yep. Um just so much CGI, and it's not super terrible CGI, it's very sort of Uh we've learned a few lessons from syndicated shows in the aught CGI, but it really seems like it would be very expensive. Tara 47:24 Yeah. Dave 47:28 For a network show, you know, relative budgets. I mean, it's not the greatest CGI, but it's gotta cost some money. And the fact that we got three seasons of this at that potential cost is sort of a small miracle. Tara 47:39 Mm-hmm. Dave 47:40 We all want more, Brian, but I think three seasons was Pretty good. Brian 47:43 I would watch this show for twenty-five seasons and Dave 47:45 Yeah. Brian 47:46 maybe Tara 47:46 Mm-hmm. Brian 47:46 like it couldn't possibly get stupider. Tara 47:48 Yeah. Brian 47:48 I recognize I'm in the minority here So, but no. Dave 47:51 Yeah. Brian 47:51 That's why I say short-lived, because when it was canceled, I was so sad because I was like, but Dave 47:54 Yeah. Brian 47:55 but keep going, but do crazy things, you know? Sarah 47:57 Now it can't be syndicated. Tara 47:57 Yeah. Dave 47:57 Yeah Tara 47:59 Yeah Sarah 48:00 No Brian 48:01 Two other things about the show not having to do with this episode that are somewhat related. Speaking of crazy lines of dialogue, the blonde French lady who d like kinda dies from gas at the end, spoilers. Tara 48:12 Yeah, mm Brian 48:13 She has a lot of dialogue very early on in the show. This is one of the things that hooked me on the show where she's talking to someone and she's finding out this horrible personal news and she says I don't know which was worse being attacked by lions or discovering my sister is sleeping with my fiance I heard that and I thought first of all it's getting attacked by lions. Like the other thing the other thing's not great, but it's getting attacked by lions. Like that's obviously the one. So so when I saw that when I saw that I said like this is the show for me. The second thing I wanted to make sure everyone's aware of is the four-star general who gets slapped. Remember how I mentioned the electrocharged ants? I believe it's the next episode or the one after. He's up in the science plane and he has a heart attack because they gave him some sort of truce here and whatever. And he has a heart attack and they don't have a defibrillator. Dave 48:59 Oh, yes. Brian 49:00 They have a fully stocked bar and they don't have a defibrillator. Tara 49:01 No boy Brian 49:02 So if they take plastic cups and they fill them with the electrocharged ants and they stick them on his chest and they bring him back to life by having the electrocharged ants shock his heart back. Sarah 49:08 Oh my God Brian 49:13 And that's the kind of show we're dealing with Sarah 49:13 Thanks, Ants. Dave 49:15 Dance Brian 49:15 Yeah, that's the kind of show we're dealing with here. Sarah 49:15 Thants. Dave 49:18 Wow, fantastic. I thoroughly enjoyed coming back to this. Sarah 49:20 Oh Dave 49:22 We sort of had the same reaction to you when we first started watching Zoo in season one when it came out. We fell off. I don't think I we got to this episode. Just absolutely bonkers in the best possible way. I absolutely enjoyed it. And not to spoil my vote, but I think this is the perfect candidate for a type of canon entry we don't get a lot, and, you know, probably that's for the best for our sanity, but holy fuck was this entertaining. Tara 49:46 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Dave 49:49 Alright, let's make this official. Tara Ariano, what say you for this episode of Zoo? Tara 49:53 Well, first I need to quote one of the lines that didn't come up, which is She's trying to say that you love moles because you are one. And for that reason, plus many more, it's a yay for me. Dave 50:04 Alright, sir, Bubby. Sarah 50:05 Uh, electrified ants will be forming a hand shape and raising itself. Dave 50:10 Yep. Sarah 50:10 It's a yes or me as well Dave 50:11 My parting shot will be that the credits are so self-serious that it actually blends perfectly with everything the show is doing. Love it. All right. I will say yes to. So Zoo! Season 2, Episode 4, The Walls of Jericho. You are hereby inducted into the extra hot gray cannon. Clip 50:40 Americans love a winner. Yeah. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. Dave 50:46 It's time to discover our winner and loser of the week, Sarah has this week's winner. Sarah 50:51 Yes, I do. It is Spongebob SquarePants. The show's getting a new holiday special called Merry Christmas, Mr. Plankton, which that name is like the perfect epitome of The blend of cute and funny that that show has always been. And it premieres November 27th, not far away. Dave 51:10 Are you watching this show? Sarah 51:12 Yes, I had a boyfriend who had young children and who he they were obsessed with it and then um the relationship ended with the guy but not with the show Dave 51:20 Not the show. Great. Sarah 51:23 And I mean, Gary the Snail is like one of my favorite characters, animated characters of all time. Dave 51:28 Okay, all right, Tara, who's our loser? Tara 51:30 Well speaking of children's programming, it is uh entertainment companies getting aired out for underpaying their child stars. This is been a recurring theme among not quite winners and losers recently on extra extra hot great but they're making it to the main show this week The Sweet Life of Zack and Cody star Dylan Sprouse said on his, I believe on his podcast recently that he only ever received one residual check for his work on the shisney show, and it was, quote, for five cents And also Sarah 51:59 Oh Tara 52:00 Jody Sarah 52:00 God Tara 52:00 Sweeten, who was on Full House for its entire run that is widely syndicated to this day, I believe. Saying recently that when she started shooting Fuller House, the Netflix show, she had a hundred and ninety dollars to her name and had to borrow money the first week of shooting. So Let's do a little more to protect, especially young stars, but all stars who deserve to make reasonable residuals from their work on the show. This is how television is supposed to work. Dave 52:26 Speaking about how television is supposed to work, do you know what time it is? Let's go Sarah 52:31 Game Dave 52:31 back. Sarah 52:31 time. Dave 52:43 Welcome back to Regulation Game Time. It's been a few weeks. This is the fifth game time of the current season. The standings are Tara with three victories, Sarah with one, value guest looking to get on the board. And today we are playing Tell Me Where to Poop. It comes from our good friend Potsi. Potsi's back, who earns himself a free shirt from the EHG store that is available at through methods. com. And side note, we are running a little low on game times due to listener game time usage. Um I am going to figure all that out. But if you have a game time that you've been thinking about Really would appreciate if you can uh put it in sooner than later, and we will definitely get to it soon. In this game, I'm gonna give you two pieces of information. What species I am and what is my name. Your goal is to tell me the show I am from. Guess for two points. If you need a hint, I'm gonna tell you who my owner is. And you're my owner in this case, so get ready to get personal After which the correct answer is worth one point. I should say asterisk owner or somebody I hang out with. That is the game. It's quite simple. I want a high-scoring game. Everybody to their corners. Here's an example for you. I am a pig named Arnold. If you could guess at this moment you would get two points, but nobody knows the answer, so I guess I'll give you the hint. Tara 54:03 Mm. Mm-hmm. Dave 54:05 You, my friend, are Fred Zeffel. Now, a pig named Arnold owned by Fred Zeffel. What's that show? Sarah 54:12 Green Acres Tara 54:13 That's Dave 54:13 Green Acres Tara 54:13 Green Acres. Dave 54:14 is correct. That would have gotten you one point in that scenario. Alright, Tara, I need the steel meal situation. Tara 54:21 Oh, okay. The steel meal situation is as follows. Sarah has two, I have eight. Valued guest has two plus Eric's meal for a total of three. Dave 54:29 All right, here's how that works, Brian. When somebody gets buzzed out at the one point level you can shout steel meal answer that question and then you will get the points if you answer it correctly but you have to be fast You have to shout steel meal, and then you can get those delicious points. And Eric's meal, which we talked about, rolls over. So at least use one. You're not hurting anybody else in the future if you just use one. You should use as many as you want, because Value guests need a win. Let's go to Pakey to see her order today. Clip 54:59 We will start with Sarah. Dave 55:00 Alright, we're gonna go Sarah, then Brian, then Tara. 33 questions, probably not going to do a challenge zone because we are running kind of ling Tara 55:08 Mm-hmm. Dave 55:09 long. And uh are we ready to play? Tell me where to poop! Tara 55:13 Yes Dave 55:14 Here we go, Sarah D. Sarah 55:14 Yes Brian 55:14 Let's do it Clip 55:15 Kato Dave 55:16 Bunting. Clip 55:16 crank bowl Dave 55:17 I am a dog. Clip 55:17 I have Dave 55:18 Woo! I am named Backup. What show am I from? Sarah 55:22 You're from Clip 55:23 came Sarah 55:23 Veronica Clip 55:23 up Sarah 55:24 Mars. Dave 55:24 You are correct. Clip 55:26 on And Dave 55:27 Alright, Brian. Clip 55:27 don't let it and what does it go on? Dave 55:28 I am a dog. I am named Brian. What show am I from Brian 55:34 You're from family guy. Dave 55:35 I am from Family Guy. Clip 55:36 Don't go Dave 55:37 Yes, Tara. Clip 55:37 back Kind of Dave 55:39 I am an iguana. Clip 55:39 iron bomb Dave 55:41 I am named Jub Clip 55:41 goes and Dave 55:42 Jub. Clip 55:42 go ahead. Dave 55:42 What show am I from? Tara 55:43 The Simpsons Dave 55:44 The Simpsons, everybody's got their first two points. Clip 55:45 Know about Dave 55:47 Sarah D. Bunting. I am a dog. Clip 55:49 it. Dave 55:50 I am named Tiger. What show am I from? Sarah 55:54 The Brady Bunch Dave 55:55 Two points. Mr. Grubb, I am also a dog. I am named Cheddar. What show am I from? Brian 56:04 I'm so bad I don't know this. Clip 56:05 I want to get a cutoff. Dave 56:06 Okay, I'll buzz you out of there. I will let you know that you are Ray Holt, Captain Ray Holt. Brian 56:13 Oh, Brooklyn nine Dave 56:14 Brooklyn 99, good for one point. Brian 56:14 nine Dave 56:16 Tara, I am a niblonium. Tara 56:20 Mm-hmm. Dave 56:20 Name Nibbler. Tara 56:21 Yep. Dave 56:21 What show am I from? Tara 56:22 Futurama. Clip 56:23 Kato Dave 56:23 Futurama good for two. Back to Sarah. I am a dog named Vincent. Clip 56:26 and both. Dave 56:27 What show am I from? Clip 56:27 I want to hit the water canoe. Sarah 56:29 Vincent, uh Clip 56:30 Kiddle both. Oh, you can Sarah 56:32 I'm gonna be mad, but I need a hint Dave 56:35 You are Walt Walt Sarah 56:40 Oh my son lost Dave 56:43 Lost is correct. One point pickup back to Brian. Clip 56:45 Don't vote for it, bow and I Dave 56:46 I am a Green Tiger. Clip 56:47 don't want it. I don't want Dave 56:48 I am named Cringer. Clip 56:48 to go and go by it. I'll cut a Brian 56:51 Oh, I need a hint. Clip 56:52 bad house, I Dave 56:52 You, my friend, are Prince Adam Clip 56:53 don't vote for it. Brian 56:57 Oh. Oh, I fail. I knew I was gonna get zero eventually. It's time for that. Dave 57:02 Alright, steal a little opportunity here if anybody wants to do it. Nope. That is from He-Man and the Masters of the Universe. That is his green battle cat. Sarah 57:09 Oh, okay, glad Dave 57:10 He's scaredy cat Sarah 57:11 I Dave 57:11 till he turns into battle cat. And then he's like, I'm gonna totally fuck you up. Tar, I am a dog. Tara 57:16 Yep. Mm-hmm. Dave 57:18 I am named Porthos Tara 57:24 You're from Enterprise. Dave 57:25 I am from Enterprise. I am Jonathan Archer 's dog. Serity Bunting, I am also a dog, and I am named Astro Sarah 57:37 Uh, the Jetsons Dave 57:38 The Jetsons good for two. Brian, I am a monkey and I am named Marcel. Clip 57:43 Condom, cause I'm mad in the call and cater Brian 57:45 Fresh Clip 57:45 for it. Dave 57:46 Friends, good for two. Yes, Tara! Clip 57:47 Cause I'm the call Dave 57:48 I am a cat. Clip 57:48 and we go. Dave 57:49 I am named Spot. Clip 57:51 Cause I'll manage it. Tara 57:52 Um Dark Direct the Next Generation. Dave 57:54 That is correct, data's cat. Serity Bunting, I am a dog named Pharaoh. Sarah 58:01 Pharaoh. Dave 58:01 Pharaoh, yes, an Egyptian king. Sarah 58:03 That's fun. Ca can I have a hint about you Dave 58:07 Well, you are Robert Crawley, aka Lord Grantham. Sarah 58:14 Oh, Dog Clip 58:14 Know Sarah 58:15 Butt, uh Clip 58:15 what Dave 58:15 Dog Clip 58:15 ring Dave 58:16 butt. Sarah 58:16 Down Clip 58:16 ball is not Dave 58:16 Downton Sarah 58:16 Abbey Clip 58:17 getting Dave 58:17 Abbey is correct. For bonus points, can you name the successor dog to Pharaoh? Tara 58:22 Wasn't it the Sarah 58:22 Isis? Clip 58:23 both Dave 58:23 Was it the previous? Tara 58:24 Yes? Dave 58:25 Okay. Sarah 58:25 Yeah, I thought Isis was the first one. Dave 58:26 Isis, yes, correct. Clip 58:27 I want to take a wrack and Tara 58:27 Yes. Dave 58:28 There's two day points for you. Sarah 58:28 Yeah. Dave 58:29 Okay. Clip 58:29 cut the cut. Dave 58:30 Back to Brian. Clip 58:31 I Dave 58:31 I am a dog. Clip 58:31 want I Dave 58:32 I am named Eddie. Clip 58:32 want to go with and bull. I want to take a wrack and Brian 58:35 Freezer Dave 58:35 Fraser, two points. Yes, Tar Clip 58:37 cut the cut. Dave 58:37 Ariano, I am a cat. Tara 58:37 Yep. Dave 58:39 Named Salem. Tara 58:40 Sabrina the teenage witch. Dave 58:41 Correct, Hilda's cat. Serie Bunting, I am a horse! I am named Rhinestone Cowboy! Sarah 58:51 Great Hint, please Dave 58:53 You are my owner, and your name is J. R. Ewing. Sarah 58:58 Oh, Dallas. Great horse name. I never knew that. Dave 59:02 Alright, this is question 17. Clip 59:04 And what does it come on? Dave 59:04 It is for Brian. Sarah 59:05 Spready go Dave 59:06 I am a direwolfrrr named Greywind. What show am I from Brian 59:13 Game of Thrones Dave 59:14 Game of Thrones, yes, Rob Stark's Direwolf Greywind. Alright, this will take us into our scorebreak Tara. I am a dog. I am named Digby. Tara 59:25 A dog named Dickby, hint Dave 59:28 You are Ned Clip 59:31 Okay. Tara 59:32 Just Ned? I don't know. Dave 59:34 Just Ned. Alright, steel melee opportunity if anybody knows this. Everybody's shaking their heads. What if I said Ned the pie maker? Tara 59:42 Oh pushing daisies. Dave 59:43 Pushing daisies is the correct answer there. Alright, no points for you there. It's time for our midpoint scorebreak. Tara 59:51 Well it's very close. Uh Sarah and Brian are tied with nine points each. I have ten. Sarah, do you concur? Sarah 59:58 I concur Dave 59:59 All right, anybody's game super duper close. Let's get back to it with this question. I am a Robo Dog. My name is K9. K-Hyphendine. Sarah 01:00:16 Inspector Gadget. Dave 01:00:17 Good guess, good guess, not correct. My owner, that is you, is the doctor Clip 01:00:23 From pain list doesn't want Sarah 01:00:25 Oh, Doctor Who Clip 01:00:25 to Dave 01:00:25 That's right, Doctor Who coming back to bite you on the ass. One point. Brian, I am a snorkosaurus. Brian 01:00:30 Get a bad Clip 01:00:31 pay Dave 01:00:33 My name is Dino. Flintstones is correct, yes. Tara, I am a dolphin, my name is Darwin Clip 01:00:44 Kyoto win, I want Tara 01:00:46 Flipper Clip 01:00:47 to go Dave 01:00:49 You are Nathan Bridger Clip 01:00:51 back, canoe boat wing. Oh, wait, wait. Tara 01:00:53 Um Oh, is it that Canadian show? I don't remember what it's called. Dave 01:01:01 It's not, but I want the answer now, I'm curious. Tara 01:01:03 Okay. The one with Donnelly Rhodes. Dave 01:01:06 It's Danger Bay. Tara 01:01:06 Danger Babe, but it's not that. Dave 01:01:07 It's not Danger Bay. No, not Danger Bay. Anybody know this one? Steel Mill Opportunity. One point on the table. This is Sequest DSV. Tara 01:01:15 Oh, the other one. Sarah 01:01:16 Oh, that Dave 01:01:16 The dolphin Sarah 01:01:17 fucker. Dave 01:01:17 that does navigation or talks, solves puzzles, something Tara 01:01:19 Sure. Dave 01:01:20 like that. Tara 01:01:21 Hmm Dave 01:01:21 Serity Bunting, I am two dogs. We are two dogs. We are Zeus and Apollo. Clip 01:01:28 Clearboard, but we want to go with Nambo. Sarah 01:01:34 Oh, Magnum P. Clip 01:01:35 Cause we Dave 01:01:35 Yes, Magna Clip 01:01:36 go and clean the Dave 01:01:36 PI Clip 01:01:37 book. Dave 01:01:37 Higgins is the owner. Back to Brian. I am a dog. My name is Paul Anka. Brian 01:01:45 Oh, I need a hint. Dave 01:01:47 You are Lorelei. Brian 01:01:50 Oh, uh Clip 01:01:51 Kato Brian 01:01:51 kill more Dave 01:01:51 Grimmel Brian 01:01:51 girls. Dave 01:01:52 Girls, one-point pickup. Nicely done. Tara. Clip 01:01:54 won't go Tara 01:01:54 Yeah. Clip 01:01:55 and Dave 01:01:55 I am a daggot. Clip 01:01:56 want to hit the canoe, because Dave 01:01:57 My name is Muffet. Clip 01:01:58 I called the canoe for it. Tara 01:02:00 Hint Dave 01:02:01 You are boxy with an E. Tara 01:02:05 Space nineteen ninety-nine Dave 01:02:07 You are close! That was oh steel mill. Nope. That was the original Battlestar Galactica. Tara 01:02:14 Oh, okay. Sarah 01:02:15 Oh Tara 01:02:15 That was close. Dave 01:02:16 Sara D. Bunting, I am a cat. My name is Miss Kitty Fantastico Clip 01:02:22 Yeah. Sarah 01:02:23 Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Dave 01:02:24 Two points. Brian, I am a goldfish. I am named Gail. Brian 01:02:32 Hint. Dave 01:02:33 You are CJ Craig. Brian 01:02:36 Oh, crap. West Dave 01:02:38 Westwing good for one point. Brian 01:02:38 Wing Dave 01:02:40 Tara, I am a dog. My name is Shelby. Clip 01:02:45 Yeah, you want to go with the one that you go Dave 01:02:48 You are Martha Kent. Clip 01:02:49 on. Tara 01:02:51 Smallville Dave 01:02:52 Smallville, good for one point. Sarah D Bunting, I am a daughter. I am named Freeway. Freeway. Sarah 01:03:03 I need a hint Dave 01:03:04 You are Max with an X. I'm Max. Sarah 01:03:10 Uh-huh. Dave 01:03:12 That's you. Sarah 01:03:12 Yeah. Dave 01:03:13 That's what you say Sarah 01:03:14 Uh uh I don't know, Max Headroom, I don't know Dave 01:03:18 Steel mill. Tara 01:03:19 I'm not gonna steel meal it, but it's hard to heart. Dave 01:03:21 It's heart to heart, yes, correct. Sarah 01:03:23 Oh, that's nice. Dave 01:03:24 He's the driver and his dog names Freeway. That's cute. Back to Brian. I am a wolf dog. Ooh , rough. Clip 01:03:32 And Dave 01:03:32 My name is Diefenbaker. Clip 01:03:32 we'll play it. Brian 01:03:34 Oh, buddy, I got nothing. Hint Dave 01:03:37 You are Benton Frasier Brian 01:03:42 I don't got it. Dave 01:03:44 Anybody? No, this is due south. Tara 01:03:47 Yeah Dave 01:03:48 Dew south, the mounty who brings his dog. Sarah 01:03:50 That Dave 01:03:50 Uh Sarah 01:03:51 Canadian Dave 01:03:51 Defenbaker is one of our prime ministers. Sarah 01:03:51 show. Dave 01:03:53 That's where that comes from. Tara 01:03:54 From Saskatchewan, where I'm also from. Dave 01:03:56 Alright, this will take us into our near-end scorebreak. It is for Tara. I am a horse. I am named Argo. Argo find the horse's name Tara 01:04:08 Mm. And Sarah 01:04:10 Nope. Dave 01:04:11 You are Gabrielle. Tara 01:04:13 Cena Warrior Dave 01:04:14 You are correct for one point. Tara 01:04:14 Princess Dave 01:04:16 Everybody's got one question left. Clip 01:04:17 No no Dave 01:04:18 I would like the scores, please. Clip 01:04:18 , Tara 01:04:19 It's still so close. Now I am in the back of the pack with 12. Brian has 13. Sarah is leading with 14. Sarah, do you concur? Sarah 01:04:28 I concur. Tara 01:04:28 Woo! Dave 01:04:28 Mat mathematically, nobody is out of it. Tara 01:04:31 That's right. Dave 01:04:32 All right. Let's get to it. Sarah D Bunting. I am a parrot. Cracker. My name is Mr. Pitts. Brian 01:04:48 That was such a good parrot Dave 01:04:49 Thank you. Brian 01:04:49 impression. You're welcome. Sarah 01:04:50 Oh my god. What exactly was that parroting? Your name is Mr. Pitts. Uh I actually need a hint. Dave 01:04:58 Oh, okay. You are Donna Martin. Sarah 01:05:02 Oh Christ Beverly Hills nine or two and Dave 01:05:06 All right, that is a one-point pickup. Sarah 01:05:06 oh. Tara 01:05:08 Damn bird Dave 01:05:08 Brian. Sarah 01:05:08 Yeah. Tara 01:05:09 is that what it said? Sarah 01:05:10 Uh-huh Tara 01:05:10 Uh-huh. Dave 01:05:11 What did it Tara 01:05:12 Damn bird. Dave 01:05:12 say? Damn bird? Tara 01:05:13 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:05:14 Damperd! Tara 01:05:15 Yeah. Dave 01:05:15 Okay. I'm a parrot. Damper! Brian, I am a cat. My name is Ferguson Michael Jordan Bishop. Clip 01:05:25 And Brian 01:05:25 How Clip 01:05:26 control. Brian 01:05:26 do you Dave 01:05:26 New Clip 01:05:26 Cause our man, cause I want Dave 01:05:26 girl, good for two points. Tara 01:05:27 Hell yeah Dave 01:05:28 Nicely done, Tara. Sarah 01:05:28 Oh Tara 01:05:28 Woo Yep. Dave 01:05:30 I am a cat. Tara 01:05:31 Yep. Clip 01:05:31 to go and embod. Dave 01:05:32 My name is Kit. Sarah 01:05:32 , Clip 01:05:34 Cause I'm managing Tara 01:05:34 A cat named Kit. I mean it couldn't just be Night Rider, could it Dave 01:05:40 You are Phoebe Halliwell. Halliwell. Tara 01:05:43 Charmed Dave 01:05:43 Charmed is good for one point. That is regulation. It's time for the scores. I'm very excited for this. Tara 01:05:49 Well, guess what? Sarah 01:05:50 Brian, you did it. Tara 01:05:51 There's a tie, and I'm not in it. Sarah and Brian are tied with 15 each. I am trailing with 13. Sarah 01:05:56 Woo Dave 01:05:57 Alright, here's how the tiebreaker works. It's the same as all the other ones, but first person to shout out the correct answer wins Remember, the correct answer is the name of the show. If everybody seems like they don't know it after a few seconds, I will provide the clue. Are you locked in already, Mr. Grubb? Brian 01:06:16 I'm so ready. Dave 01:06:17 Ms. Bunting. Sarah 01:06:18 Yes. Dave 01:06:18 Here we go. I am a stuffed dog. My name is Rowdy. My owner's name is Tara 01:06:31 Oh, Brian is he's right on the verge. Dave 01:06:34 John Dorian Brian 01:06:38 Oh, I know it 's gonna kill me. Dave 01:06:39 My nickname is JD. Brian 01:06:43 Scrubs Dave 01:06:44 Scrubs is correct, yes, Brian gets Sarah 01:06:44 Scrubs Fucking Scrubs, good job, Brian Dave 01:06:47 Sarah D. Brian 01:06:48 Thank you Dave 01:06:48 Bunting was out of that from the get-go because it turns out the tiebreaker was a Scrubs question. Sarah 01:06:53 I Dave 01:06:54 Scrubs. Sarah 01:06:54 actually was gonna make a joke earlier in the game, like there better not be a goddamn dog on goddamn scrub. Dave 01:06:56 Not for Sarah. Tara 01:06:56 Oh boy. Sarah 01:07:01 So there was, but Brian won, so that's great. Tara 01:07:01 And there was Dave 01:07:03 Brian, can you remind us on the panel right before the show what your uh guess was and how many points you were gonna score today? Brian 01:07:11 Right. So I asked you guys very seriously if anyone ever gotten zero points. And there was a hope in my brain that I was gonna be the guy to do it. Because these TV trivia things, sometimes I get them and sometimes I just go blank and I do terrible. Dave 01:07:25 Yeah. Brian 01:07:25 But here's what's interesting. As this show went along and I got a few right I started getting so competitive that when this happened, people don't play board games with me for this reason. So as we got to the tiebreaker I was I could feel my heart rate rising. Dave 01:07:41 Nice. Brian 01:07:41 Like I was starting to sweat. Dave 01:07:41 That's good Brian 01:07:43 If I had not gotten that right, it would have ruined my whole day. Sarah 01:07:47 Little do Brian 01:07:47 So Sarah 01:07:48 little Brian 01:07:48 so we Sarah 01:07:48 did you know the universe smoothed your path. Brian 01:07:51 It's thank God. Sarah 01:07:52 You're in it against me, and it's a scrubs question. Brian 01:07:53 Thank God. Dave 01:07:56 I've got two Brian 01:07:56 It's it's Sarah 01:07:56 No problem. Dave 01:07:57 items to say at this point. One is I need to channel Dan Casito and say there is no victory for shooting the moon and getting zero, so keep that in mind. And uh second, please enjoy this. Clip 01:08:09 Valued guest. Valued guest. Tara 01:08:11 Valued guest. Sarah 01:08:12 Valued Dave 01:08:13 Nicely done. Sarah 01:08:13 guest. Tara 01:08:14 Woo Dave 01:08:14 Uh Sarah 01:08:14 Great job, everyone. Dave 01:08:14 that was fantastic. Yes, thank you, Potzi. Well guys, that is it for another episode of Extra Hot Grade. We put on our very good sunglasses for an incognito discussion of the new season of Black Doves before going around the dial with stops at off campus. Kunks on and OJ 's accomplice. Brian arranged for a new zoo resident in the Canon Trophy, and it also has special powers. The trophy makes hamburgers eat people. We crowned winners and losers of the week, and the boy nobody love Brian C. Grubb just won the Super Bowl. Thank you, Potse, for that game. Brian 01:08:55 I'm a loose canon, but I get results. Dave 01:08:57 Next up is Mullen Dash Four. Remember Clip 01:09:04 We're listening. Dave 01:09:07 I am David T. Cole and on behalf of Tari Ariano, Tara 01:09:10 Remember when America used to have politicians? Dave 01:09:13 Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 01:09:14 I'm evolving. Dave 01:09:17 And Brian C. Grupp. Brian 01:09:19 I'm so happy I won. Dave 01:09:21 Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time right here on Extra Hot Cray. Clip 01:09:32 We need that sloth. Tara 01:09:34 Yep. Sarah 01:09:36 We did it Dave 01:09:37 That was super fun.