Are We Ready To Homestead At The New Little House On The Prairie?

Clip 00:00 What we wanted, right? Be at the beginning of something. Dave 00:10 This is the Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 623 for the week of July 13th, 2026. I am Faithful River of Universal Bad Decision Making David T. Cole, and I'm here with Abandoned Piano Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 00:29 Tickle, tickle Dave 00:30 Fugitive fiddler, Tara Ariano. Tara 00:32 We can't ever go back to Wisconsin. Dave 00:33 And slingshot enthusiast, Kim Breed Kim 00:37 Uh oh. Dave 00:42 Hello everybody and welcome to Extra Hot Great. Happy to be back in the recording chair before we get in today's episode Quick bit of not pod business business, which is to say there's club movement news, but I'm not prepared to actually tell you what you can do with this. new milestone yet. I have to arrange some things. I have to set up some stuff. I have to move some money. Before I do that, I really shouldn't announce anything because you'll be like, well I want to do that. And I'm like, well you can't do it yet. So I just want to say I am acknowledging the fact that I haven't done it yet and it will have something for you next week. Tara 01:15 Announcement of the coming announcement. Dave 01:16 Yes, everybody loves an announcement, announcement. Tara 01:19 Thank you, Dave. Dave 01:20 Thank you. Tara 01:21 Joining us, she is the voice that our Extra Hot Great Club members here re Recapping the most awesome things she saw on TV every month. It's Kim Reed. Dave 01:31 Welcome back, Kim. Tara 01:32 Welcome back in. Sarah 01:32 Cam Tara 01:34 We are talking about Little House on the Prairie 2026 edition, and obviously we could not guess any other guest than Kim to talk about this show. In which we meet the Ingalls family after they have departed their little house in the Big Woods of Wisconsin for the promise of free land in Kansas Though Charles, Luke Bracie, aka Paw, has romantic dreams about starting over on the frontier, he clearly has not thought through how laborious and dangerous that is gonna be Amid and around the potentially fatal hazards that threaten the family, we get little hints that Pa may not have simply left Wisconsin, but possibly fled under possibly shady circumstances The show is based on the book series by Laura Ingalls Wilder, which was previously adapted into a series of the same name, which ran in the 70s and 80s. This one was created by Rebecca Sonnenshine, whose former credits include such incongruous titles as The Vampire Diaries and The Boys. It was renewed for a second season in March, months before Netflix dropped all eight episodes of the first season July 9th. We might talk about events from any of them. Let's do the chan check-in. Kim, your voice is the most important one on this. Should our listeners watch the new little house on the prairie. Kim 02:51 Oh my goodness. I would say if you liked the books or have fond memories of the books, then yes. Otherwise, you can skip it. Tara 02:59 Sarah Sarah 03:00 Um, my favorite part was when Mary exploded. Just kidding. I sort of like that it was the books, but with this Malik vibe. If that sounds like something you would enjoy, you should watch it, but otherwise Kim's right. Dave 03:13 I had the sense that that is what Kim was going to say, and I thought, even though I've never been close to the books, that that would be my reaction to. So I'm going to give Kim my little house on a prairie a pending approval thumb. Tara 03:27 Well, I n started to read the first book, I think, and got bored. I definitely watched the original show, but have not been near it in years. But I love this, I'm gonna keep watching, so Let's drill down. Obviously, we have to start with our subject matter expert, Kim. What has made the original series one of your obsessions, I'm gonna say? And which of those features does the new show share? Kim 03:53 Well, as a child of the 70s and 80s, I think around the bicentennial and later there was a lot of interest in sort of colonial times and pioneer times and American history in general. I know my parents had a real colonial living room set. I'm sure it wasn't the only one. Also, reading the books, as a kid, I read them over and over. I did a report on Laura Ingalls Wilder's biography in when I was in third grade for fun, not for school, just because I wanted to. Sarah 04:15 Same Kim 04:25 Just to give you a sense of how deep of an yeah, I am a nerd and I was very deep in the in the lore. I did also like the show. The show for me was almost always a separate entity because it's so Sarah 04:37 Yes, same. Kim 04:38 campy. You know, the reason I love it now is 'cause it's so ridiculous, as evidenced by my segments on the p on this very podcast. So I went in kind of expecting a more historically accurate or at least more faithful to the books, 'cause the show is not faithful to the books other than the sort of the main characters. What I found was it is and it isn't. So I have mixed feelings about it. There's certain details they I understand adaptations are always gonna have to change from the source material for narrative economy and just for modern audiences and that sort of thing. But there were things they changed that I don't know why. Like why does Ma have red hair? That was weird Um and why doesn't Mary have blonde hair? And that just seems like a silly thing, but it's literally a major plot point in the Little House on the Prairie book that Mary has blonde hair and Laura has Brown hair and Laura's super jealous of her. So just things like that. And then obviously the thing Tara alluded to, not in the books at all. I'm interested to hear what you guys as non-weirdos about this show have to say because I feel like I'm too close to it sometimes to have a really good opinion or you know, fair opinion. Tara 05:39 Okay, well as a non weirdo, Sarah, go ahead. Sarah 05:44 The uh started no sentence effort that anyone ever listened to. This was one of the handful of shows that I was allowed to watch, but I also read the entire series. I read it over and over again. And so I'm with Kim. Like I loved them both, but they were like barely in conversation with each other because even as a little kid, it was like, why doesn't Pa have a beard? Why Why aren't these children out of order? Why aren't they living in like a thumbprint in the side of a riverbank, like in the Plum Creek book? You know, same names but basically completely different vibes. Chips on the frontier. Fine. Not a problem with that So I was interested to just see what they would do and how tied they would feel to the original show. I was g again getting more book Vibes from it. And as Kim said, like they did allied certain things. Certain things are out of order. There's like they're implying certain things about Charles Ingalls that are like, hmm, I don't know. But it's shot really beautifully. There is a certain amount of like frontier processy stuff happening that I enjoyed, and I didn't mind that it was both Not faithful to the original show and not totally faithful to the books. It just made me want to go back and maybe read the books again or Wilder's biography, which I read Years and years ago, but I enjoyed it. I think that it loves its material, and so for that reason it's it's good. And I mean, pa's hot. That's new. Tara 07:20 Yeah, Pa's hot. I mean, Michael Landon also hot. Kim 07:23 How dare you slander Michael Landon and his pepperoni nipples like that? Tara 07:27 Wow. Sarah 07:28 Yeah, okay, Jesus Dave 07:28 It's pepperoni nipples First time I heard you call his nipples pepperoni nipples, I was on the floor. I just could not deal with it. Kim 07:37 I'm not wrong. Dave 07:37 It is true. It's very true. Sarah 07:39 Yeah, he and I it's earring. Tara 07:40 Dave, you posted on our Discord that this was feeling like misery porn to you. Dave 07:46 A little bit. I mean the first episode anyways, you know, they have to get to Independence, Kansas. Tara 07:51 Yes. Dave 07:51 And they're trying to cross a river and it goes bad and everybody's having a bad time. The dog just jumps off and never seen again for most of the episode. Spoiler, it comes back. Well just getting back to the dog first. The opening scene with the Ingalls is them leaving Wisconsin and they just leave without their dog and then like Tara 08:07 Wisconsin. Dave 08:12 Ten seconds later the dog runs after them. Make sure the dog's on the wagon before you leave the state, is my advice to the Ingalls family. They're very laissez-faire with the care of their dog. I realize it's a working dog probably, but still Still, you can't do it. Kim 08:26 Well also, this is one thing that stuck out to me is I went back and reread the first couple chapters of Little House on the Prairie last night. Because I do my research. And the same thing happens. They cross a river. Jack the dog jumps out of the wagon once Charles jumps in. And then is swept away, presumably never to be seen again. But in the book, they're camping out that night and they see like eyes in the prairie grass and Pa thinks it's a wolf and he gets his gun out And then all of a sudden Laura realizes it's Jack and then they're reunited. And I'm like, that's so much better. Like that even visually that would have been s in this in this episode, Jack just kind of shows up and Laura's happy. And I'm like, you know, so that's the sort of thing where I was like But I what I kind of realize is I love the illustrations in the original book so much. They're Garth Williams as the illustrator that I want this show to look like Sarah 09:13 Mm-hmm. Kim 09:17 that and that's not what they're doing and I just need to sort of make my peace with that. And I did. I watched almost all the episodes. I haven't quite gotten through all the way through yet. And I did enjoy it. But if you're going into it thinking finally a actual adaptation of the source material, this isn't quite that. Dave 09:32 Right. Also, Jack probably just came back in the TV show because he was hungry. He's like, oh damn, stomach. Guess I should head back. Kim 09:40 Dinner time Dave 09:40 Yeah. Tara 09:40 Yep. As soon as this version was announced, the discourse about it focused on how it would work in Some plots that the mostly white seventies show alighted and the books, I assume. For me, what we see which includes a local doctor and a shopkeeper who are black, although apparently the doctor was black in the book as well, I read We get members of the Osage tribe discussing amongst themselves what it means to have the settlers moving in. All of that feels like the kind of stuff That any sensible person in 2026 would naturally want to include the issue is how many sensible people are there in 2026? I don't know How well, Kim, did you think this showrunner widened her scope compared to other versions of this story? Kim 10:24 Well, I will say the seventies show tried. Tara 10:27 Mm-hmm. Kim 10:27 I'm not say gonna say they were successful, it was still the seventies. But I remember watching the episode that has Todd Bridges stars as a I can't even remember now if he's a A freed slave 'cause this is just post civil war, but orphan, I believe. And I remember watching it being like, wow, that was pretty they really went there for a 70s show. This show, it's nice that they include some of the Osage family as, you know, human beings with their own thoughts and motivations. That certainly does not happen in the books. And mm, you know, uh not really in the seventies show. It's a thankless task, I think, to try to take this source material and make it a little bit more broad and inclusive. And I thought they did a pretty good job of it. I'll be interested to see. I was just reading that it did get renewed for a second season. And that they will be changing locations because historically that's what happened is the Ingalls family moved around a lot because Charles was a deadbeat. And um Sorry, did I sneak that in there? And uh so I'll be interested to see, obviously not every famil unlike on the 70s show, the whole town isn't gonna move with them necessarily, all the people in the town. Tara 11:34 Right. Right Kim 11:35 So it'll be interesting to see how that continues moving forward. Dave 11:38 Another guest from Kansas, all the way here in Minnesota. Tara 11:38 Mm-hmm. Dave 11:42 Ah, get the cornbread. Sarah 11:42 Wow. Yeah, I think that the books are for children, so there was a you know, there was a certain amount of like even reading them in the 70s that I would sort of come downstairs and be like, why is Ma like this to my own Ma, who I called that for This reason, because of these books, I tried it with Pa. Dave Sr. was like, eh-dad or nothing. And st stop pouring Mrs. Butterworth on snow and trying to make candy. Why are you like this? But anyway, like there's definitely I think there's definitely a temptation to like tack back in the other direction But if you are still making a show that's like a family entertainment or it's for children, there's a limit to what you can do. And there's also a limit to how much you can ameliorate people being shithead products of their time. But then you also in some ways have an opportunity to look at boundaries that the frontier did not allow to exist as much and make that a part of the story that can make it a little more palatable Tara 12:44 Right. Dave 12:50 Yeah. If you want to go all the way and just have that show, there's a show called American Primeval, which is basically this show when everybody dies. Sarah 12:57 Mm-hmm. Tara 12:58 Yeah Dave 12:58 Everybody has a bad time on the frontier, the show. Tara 13:01 It's also on Netflix. I'll say this one is more like um in a lot of respects uh Anne with an E, which is on Netflix as well. Where it's, you know, based on beloved historical source material of those are novels, they're not actually nonfiction the way Little House is But it also widened its scope and sort of acknowledged like there were people in this time that were living places and they weren't all white and they all they had different interests and needs and motivations and were full humans like Kim said. I'll also say the show had an all-female directing team and two of them formerly worked on Reservation Dogs. Thank you to Catherine, Past and Future Guests, Catherine Van Ehren Dog for flagging this, which is, you know, I think also helps. You know, change your perspective on what story you're telling. Which character here, Kim, would you say is the biggest upgrade from the original or downgrade? Kim 13:51 I would say, well, upgrade visually, Mr. Edwards, whoo, he's hot Tara 13:56 Mm-hmm. Sarah 13:57 Oh my God, yeah. Tara 13:57 Oh yeah. Kim 13:57 Pa didn't do it for me, but Mr. Edwards was hot and certainly I mean, rest in peace, Victor French, he didn't do it for me in this from the 70s show. Sarah 14:01 Mm-hmm Kim 14:06 I'm gonna say downgrade was and a slight downgrade was Laura. The actress was fine. Tara 14:13 Mm-hmm. Kim 14:13 She was great, but the way she was written and directed, the Laura I fell in love with in the books and even on the 70s show was more of like a Ramona Quimby type where she was frustrated sometimes and angry sometimes and jealous sometimes and impulsive sometimes And you could really relate to her as a character, at least I could as a little kid, because you're like, I'm trying to be good, but I have all these feelings and I don't always do the right thing and my stupid sister always does the right thing. Tara 14:39 Ajá, mm Kim 14:39 And a hater, and you know, some people can relate. But um this Laura, everything the edges felt sanded off to me a little bit. I just didn't see that spunkiness, for lack of a better word that I was expecting or that I feel like is Laura's sort of keynote. So that was a little bit of a downgrade for me. Maybe that'll change moving forward. I don't know. But yeah, that would be my answer. Sarah 15:02 I like that Ma is just a little more. I mean, in the books I feel like there are all these references to like You know, long ago when we lived in civilization and she had an 18-inch waist, like, oh my god, this poor woman. Fuck. But also that there is the like clear implication that, I mean, Pa must be a fucking whiz in the old canvas sack because there were a couple of times when she's like If i if I weren't getting the good Frontier D, I would not be putting up with your shit. Tara 15:31 Mm-hmm. Sarah 15:34 Like it's ch I mean Dave 15:35 Do you mean by Frontier D, do you mean manifest destiny? Sarah 15:38 Yes. Tara 15:39 Putting the man in Manifest Destiny Sarah 15:40 Manifest D Putting the man in manifest destiny. Dave 15:40 Yeah, he's putting yeah. A man fast destiny. Yes, thank you. Sarah 15:44 Yeah. I we should stop here, I feel, at the edge of the landmass Dave 15:48 Title, that's the title of the show. Sarah 15:51 But yeah, I I liked that it was a little more sort of broad spectrum about her being like, What did we do? Like Kim 15:58 Yeah. Sarah 15:59 This was a huge mistake and now it can't be undone. And um so I I did like that. Um I think Kib's right about Laura. But yeah, no real no real downgrades. It's just different and it's its own thing and I think it works and doesn't suffer in comparison Dave 16:15 Uh I don't know if it's the downgrade or a new character or whatever, but the French lady is like, I wear trousers! Yahoo! Like incredibly giant and they look like they would be the hottest things on earth but she didn't like trousers trousers look at me on the front deal with trousers I liked her Tara 16:38 Yeah. What kind of present day scams do we think a time traveling paw would be most likely to fall for, and why is it crypto? Dave 16:44 Oh yeah. I think he would definitely get swept up in some sort of banking scandal, obviously. Sarah 16:51 Yeah. Tara 16:54 Sure. Dave 16:54 That sort of is what happens here, right? Built on land that doesn't belong to him and Tara 16:58 Yeah. Sarah 16:58 I mean, Campfire Festival. I don't I don't think he's falling for one, I think he's perpetrating one. Tara 17:06 He's starting it. It's an all f all fiddle lineup at uh Campfire Fest. Dave 17:08 Yeah. Kim 17:08 Yeah. Sarah 17:11 Yep. Mm-hmm Kim 17:12 Well, I was thinking about this because I was thinking about again things that they've changed from the source material or not. Tara 17:13 Yeah Kim 17:18 And I thought, okay, well, the real reason that they left Kansas the first or they left Wisconsin the first time was just, you know, Manifest Destiny, Frontier Spirit, Pop Auto got too crowded, he wanted more freedom, blah, blah, blah. Same reason any frontier pr person pretty much left. And I think modern audiences maybe wouldn't understand that or wouldn't see it as a reason. So they had to create this whole backstory of like There was an incident and that's why Pa left and now they can't go because I think any reasonable person watching the first episode would be like, What are you doing? Go home. Why are you still here? Sarah 17:50 Yeah. Kim 17:51 She's pregnant? Are you kidding me? Sarah 17:52 But I put it in a legal curb cut, buddy. Kim 17:55 Yeah. Sarah 17:55 Just go back. Kim 17:55 Um so they had to invent this whole incident that didn't happen. Sarah 17:56 It's fine Kim 17:59 It made Pa seem dumber to me. Like, well he did he screwed something up back in Wisconsin. Now we're out here and he's screwing things up here. And I was like, aren't I supposed to be rooting for this character? Because right now I'm just like, Ma, go home. What are we doing? I will say if you watch more episodes, I did soften towards the character a little more as time went on. Sarah 18:13 Yeah, really Kim 18:18 But the first episode especially I was like, take the girls and go. What are we doing? Dave 18:22 In the books, do they explain where the brass band that opens the post office came from in the middle of nowhere? Kim 18:28 Look, people traveled with pianos, we saw that. Dave 18:30 Mm-hmm. That's true. Kim 18:32 Trumpets, trombones, you know, it was a musical time. Tara 18:34 Mm-hmm. Dave 18:34 Yeah. Kim 18:35 Pa had his fiddle. Dave 18:35 All right. Tara 18:36 Yeah. Dave 18:36 Okay, fine. Sarah 18:36 Yeah. Tara 18:37 Harmonica. Hello. Kim 18:38 Yeah. Tara 18:38 Dave, were you aware that the girl who plays Mary is named Skywalker Hughes in real life? Dave 18:43 I did read that in one of the winners and losers in the past, so yes, I was aware of that. And uh I mean, I guess it worked out for her. Tara 18:50 Yeah, mm-hmm Dave 18:50 Here she is on a big news show, so I assume that's a Star Wars related naming and not a First Nations related naming Tara 18:58 Oh, good point. Kim 18:59 No, I think I read it Star Wars. Dave 19:01 I mean kids name their kids Anakin now. It's like, oh Jesus, really? How about Attila or you know something? Got any other historical monsters you want to slip in there? Tara 19:11 We got a cameo in episode two from a star of the original show. Kim, what were your thoughts about that? Kim 19:18 I didn't recognize her. It wasn't until I was reading up on it later. Like I was watching, I'm like, boy, she looks familiar, but I try if I give in to my temptation to pull up the IMDB while I'm watching. I'd I'll do nothing else. Tara 19:30 Yeah Dave 19:30 Scrap Kim 19:30 So I always try to wait until after and then look it up. Sarah 19:30 Mm-hmm. Kim 19:33 And uh yeah, Alison Arngrim, Nellie Olson from the original series, plays a, I don't know, creepy lady. Tara 19:39 Mm-hmm. Kim 19:40 I thought that was nice. Tara 19:41 Mm-hmm. Kim 19:41 It was a nice little ha tip of the hat. Dave 19:41 It was nice. She was just trying to do a little human trafficking. Just try to get by. Kim 19:45 Well, if you know anything about her Alison Arngrim's personality and public persona these days, it was a perfect role for her Tara 19:52 Yeah. Sarah 19:52 Mm-hmm. Tara 19:53 Mm-hmm. Feels like we're wrapping up. I'll just say to anyone who's charmed by the big skies, which we hear a lot about. Go to Regina. You're gonna see more. We get to the edge of town. When you hit the city limits, it stops dead. And all you can see is flat ground and the sky. Although they did shoot this around Winnipeg, Regina's better. Dave 20:13 Okay. Tara 20:14 No pushback. Dave 20:15 Uh yeah, no, that should be their city slogan, Regina We Gas Guys. Clip 20:24 Got a lot of shows. It's a great time for shows. Dave 20:29 It is time to go around the dial. First up is Tar. Tara 20:33 I watched another show set in the 19th century, The Other Bennett Sister. I had been hearing about it through the sp TOBS. I'd been hearing about it through the spring. I finally got it to it over our break. Jane Austen, of course, is firmly in the public domain, which means different creators can do all kinds of things with her source material like Pride and Prejudice and Zombies or Death Comes to Pemberley where Elizabeth and Mr. Darcy solve a murder. So considering this possibilities, this one is pretty reverent to the original. It's based on a novel by Janice Hadlow The other Bennett sister in question, or TOBS, if you will, is Mary, the middle sibling in the family. She's played here by Ella Bruccoleri, who I mostly know from Call the Midwife, but she was also in down Cemetery Road last fall on Apple. From Pride and Prejudice, what you remember about Mary, if anything, is that she's like kind of a prig. She reads a lot, she lectures people about what she reads, she's proud of her piano playing, she makes everyone listen to her at a ball until Mr. Bennett asks her to stop. And when mister Collins, the heir to the Bennett estate, comes to visit looking to marry one of the sisters, Mary tries to put herself forward as the family savior because she actually has some things in common with mister Collins that doesn't work out. Basically all the events of the original novel are covered in the first two episodes of ten in the season. Moderate spoilers follow for the setup of the rest of the series. Once all her sisters are married off, Mary's left alone and kind of without prospects. Mr. Bennett, who is played here by Richard E. Grant, he dies, and then the Collinses want to move in basically immediately and take over the house. Mary's not that excited about being shunted around as her annoying mother's companion. Mrs. Bennett's played Pier by Ruth Jones from Gavin and Stacy, I think. So she goes to London to live with her aunt and Uncle Gardner and her world starts to open up This is essentially Cobra Kai for Prejudice. Changing the POV from beautiful, witty, Lizzie to anxious, insecure, Mary changes the viewer's impression of a lot of the characters. like the Charlotte. Mary friendship has a different cast once we understand how big a betrayal it is for Charlotte to a snake, Mr. Collins. Mary forces Lizzie to acknowledge her own privileges as someone everyone always knew was a catch and as bad as Mrs. Bennett is in the original novel, here she is basically an emotional abuser trying to grind Mary down, but It's mostly light and sweet. It's about Mary meeting cute men in London, getting more exposure to the happy, healthy gardener marriage, which makes her reconsider the institution and what she wants out of life. If you watched Young Sherlock Holmes, is that what it was called on Prime Video, that show? Dave 22:59 Uh yeah. Tara 23:00 If you watch that, the guy who plays Moriarty is one of the one of the suitors and he's very good. So if you like Jane Austen and you have Brit Box, you've probably already watched this. If you don't have Brit Box and this sounds good to you, fly to England. You can find it very easily For my plug, I'm gonna mention the Again With This club because we are continuing our recapping of my so-called life, episode two, drops Thursdays. So again with thispodcast. com slash club is where you can hear that and so very much more. You can join for as low as $5 a month and we wish you would. Dave 23:35 Kim, what do you got for us? Kim 23:36 Okay, I'm gonna do a little bit of highbrow lowbrow, but it's more like lowbrow, slightly higher brow. My lowbrow is Big Brother if you follow me on Blue Sky I already talked about this, but in the first episode of this season, season just started last week, which is season twenty-eight, we met fourteen new players and then one returning Big Brother player and one Survivor player. And both of the returnees were heavily spoiled before the season started. But the rumor said there was going to be one more Survivor player joining. So we all patiently waited for her to appear and the door to the house opened and Instead of who we were expecting, three-time Big Brother player and amazing race contestant Rachel Riley walked through and said she was joining the game. And they were all kind of like What? What is happening? And what you need to know about Rachel is that she's known for her drama and histrionics, but she's never boring and she did win season 13 And she was on last season and she was actually doing really well. And then there was a twist that totally screwed her over, and she went out about halfway through the season. So it's not crazy that Big Brother might bring her back as kind of a make good But also she wasn't who we were expecting. So the theme this season is time travel. And the three reality veterans were set to play this competition with a Jurassic era theme. But Before they could start, someone in a rubber dinosaur costume came out and threatened Rachel such that she was backed up a staircase, and then the dinosaur pushed her into a volcano and she died. And then we went to commercial. And then we came back from commercial and Julie Chen said, welcome back to the most unexpected season premiere in the history of Big Brother. Just moments ago, a Velociraptor threw Rachel into a volcano. And then they brought in the Survivor contestant we all knew was going to be on this season, and then over the closing credits they showed a skeleton with a wig floating in the lava. And if that sounds amazing to you, you should watch Big Brother this summer, because it is the dumbest show on television. Dave 25:21 Wow. If you omitted names from that and told me that was the new season opener to the next great British bake off, I would be like, yeah, maybe. Sarah 25:25 What the Fuck? Kim 25:27 Yes. Tara 25:32 Mm-hmm. Kim 25:33 That's about the quality of the uh props and everything, but just Rachel coming on the show immediately getting thrown into a volcano by a rubber dinosaur. Dave 25:41 Wow. Kim 25:41 Chef's kiss. Love it. Tara 25:43 Wow. Kim 25:43 Anyway, but I also wanted to give a quick plug to House of the Dragon season three is currently airing because I think the show has course corrected. for some of the issues it had in season two. So the subject matter is Targaryen Civil War. So by nature it's gonna be pretty glum. But the season does feel a little bit later, which is a weird thing to say when people are getting killed off all the time. But By focusing more on the pairings and the relationships, which is something that the middle seasons of Game of Thrones did really well, it's not as much battle after battle after battle in CGI Dragons. The thing I find fascinating about this show is that the source material is not a series of novels like Game of Thrones. It's a fictional history written hundreds of years later in the show's telling. relying on sources that had their own biases, but were all men. And yet the central pair of the show is two women, Ranira Targaryen and Alison Hightower. their childhood best friends until, as happens, Alicent married Renera's dad, who was the king. So the show has deviated a great deal from the book in terms of the characterization of these two women. But it's always to me in a way that can be explained by the actions and the motivations that the fake male historians couldn't or didn't want to know. I know some people don't want to go back to Westeros after how Game of Thrones ended, and I get it, but If you watch this show in the first season and then after waiting so long for the next season kind of gave up, I'd recommend coming back for season three. There's plenty of YouTube videos out there to get you caught up. And there's a lot more focus on the politics and the relationships, which is what I always liked about Game of Thrones. It's not perfect, and I know it's not going to end well. Again, it's a civil war that can only end after a lot of people and dragons die, but I'm along for the ride and maybe you wanna be too. Tara 27:24 Thank you. What do you want to plug? Kim 27:26 I will plug my segment. You if you're not a patron already, you should be because every month I do a segment called The Most Awesome Thing I Saw on TV last month, and sometimes it's about Little House, and sometimes it's about Love boat and sometimes it's about whatever other weird shows, mostly 70s and 80s shows that I watch and then recap as quickly as possible or Dave Yells at me. Dave 27:49 Oh, throw me under the bus. All right, Sarah, what have you been watching? Sarah 27:55 Here is a description of squatters from AE's show page. Squatters are taking over homes across the country, and Flash Shelton is the band who gets them out. With bold tactics and street smarts, Flash and his team face tense and sometimes dangerous situations to help families reclaim their property. I saw an ad for squatters somewhere weeks ago. I think I was actually uh prepping crashers for extra extra hock rate And I said out loud to myself, since when is AE exclusively and entirely the prosecution of property crimes on camera It just seems like the network doesn't have any content that is not either scaremongering about or helping to criminalize perceptions of misdemeanor shit. That is actually a downstream effect of a bad economy or substance misuse or structural racism or or or I checked. It does have non-cop shows. Storage Wars, Zombie House Flip, the occasional orphaned block of WWE clip shows. But even the non-cob shows are still f foregrounding the law in possession is nine tenths of in a way that will reliably give mr dan Abrams a boner and the rest of the schedule for the next week as we're recording this is like Nonstop behold cops copping programming. Fine. None of this is really new information. A guy leveraging his squatter ousting YouTube channel into a spot on the schedule at a traditional network is also not exactly the cutting edge of content. Does squatters have anything else to say that might justify giving it a look? Well, uh, I hope you're sitting down. No, not really. I watched an episode from last week called A Twisted Takeover. in which the aforementioned squatter hunter, Flash Elton, assists Dee Snyder, yes, that one, and his wife Suzette. in ejecting squatters from Suzette's parents' home on Staten Island. Overall it's fine. Shelton is both formidable and likable enough as the protagonist of one of these shows. The half hour moves right along, but that's because the episode is much more interesting on paper than in practice. Viewers could use a lot more information about the specifics of both squatting and de squatting If the show is not going to do that kind of servicey processy stuff, and we can safely assume, based on its network of residents, that it also is not trying to do a survey of these systemic Faults and failures that bring everyone to a squatting situation, punitive fuel, housing, and health care costs for starters Then what is it for exactly? Letting the audience feel superior to the economically desperate? I feel like we have enough of those shows. We don't need another one. If you have Dee Snyder on your episode, give him something to do besides sitting in a diner wearing a lot of rings and nodding. About how his late mother-in-law's caretakers moved their entire family, including their dog Rocky, who was awesome into the house and then wouldn't leave. I have a full review of this at Best Evidence. We'll link it in the show notes. Justice for Rocky. My actual plug is Us or actually extra Extra Hot Great, we do still have a mutual aid vault. People have mentioned that you should join our club and you should. See previous Ray, rising gas costs, rising health care costs. If you're in need of an assist staying in the club or you want to pay it forward to a fellow listener. Contact me. It is a cinch to make that happen, bunting at tomato nation. com. Or if you're already on the Discord, you can DM me there. That's the Extra Hot Great Mutual Aid Vault. We would love to help. Dave 31:41 Also great if you've recently had a ruinous river crossing. Alright, you may remember going back to the summer TV preview. I was talking about human vapor as a show. on paper that I think I'd want to watch and now it has come to pass. We have watched it. Human Vapor has a really good first five minutes that the show can never live up to for the rest of the run. I was Tara 32:05 Well, there's there's something that happens in the in a future episode where Dave 32:06 Well what? Fine. Tara 32:11 There's there's a thing of vapor with an eyeball on top, and that's how he spies on things. Okay, go on Dave 32:17 All right. Well, in the first five minutes of the show, they're at Japanese CNN and there's a guest there, and then the vapors crawl along the floor and get in his system, and then this guy is lifted up and explodes over the set. Like literally just like giblets and blood goo everywhere and then from there It just didn't go anywhere because you think the human vapor in the synopsis is like, I've been wronged and now everybody's gonna get it. Tara 32:45 Yeah, Dave 32:45 And that that was the main character. I'm just gonna be an agent of chaos, I'm gonna be a terrorist and Tokyo. I'm going to go around with my vaporly powers and vaporly kill people. And it turns out he's not even that. He's like basically a golem. He's not even under his own control. He's just doing things because People are mad at things that happened in the past and really just deflated the whole enterprise. So and then yes, there is an eyeball on a vapor stock, Tara. Or Tara. Tara 33:10 Mm-hmm. Dave 33:11 But otherwise, uh, you could probably give that one a pass, disappointed in human favor. Tara 33:11 Yep. It was a real drag. And then, like the first episode, like Dave said, starts off with a bang. And then in the second episode, there's no human vapor at all. Dave 33:24 There was a real dearth of human vaporing throughout this whole show called the human vapor. Tara 33:29 Yes. Dave 33:29 Like Mm- it it's like um marquee shows of the seventies that w were very expensive, say like Battlestar Galactica, and you're like as a kid's like, ooh, it's just like Star Wars, I want to watch it, but they only can budget 17 seconds of space stuff per episode It was sort of like that with human vapor. It's like, well, I guess it's vaping time. Tara 33:46 Uh huh Dave 33:47 So it was just uh wasn't there. Wasn't clicking. So human vapor, I think you can skip it. Tara 33:53 Yeah. Dave 33:53 All right, coming up on Extra Extra Hot Great this Friday, we're going to be covering the TV show Lucky, Apple TV, Anna, Anna Joy Taylor is some sort of assassin or something. Tara 34:03 Mm-hmm. Dave 34:04 And oh no, things happen. Tara 34:05 Anya Taylor Joy, even Dave 34:08 Okay, great. Sarah 34:08 Yeah. And con woman, but sure. Dave 34:11 Dave's making up actors in his own mind. Uh that is available to club members, extrahotgreat. com slash club. for more and then come back here next week. EHG Prime will be welcoming back Will Leach to talk about the hawk. Where's my hawk sound effect? It's gone. Add it in post. Tara 34:32 Can I go pee before we I didn't know that was coming. Can I go to the bathroom before we do the Canon? Dave 34:37 Oh, now I have to keep the pee request in the show, Tara. Tara 34:40 Sorry Dave 34:40 All right, Tara. You go pee, and everybody will wait for you listening. We'll we'll we'll do the pause in real time. Tara 34:44 Come on. I'm back. That was hard because my foot was really asleep. But I persevered Dave 34:52 You're very brave. Tara 34:54 Thank you. I am. Dave 34:55 Alright, ready for the canon? Tara 34:57 Yes. Dave 35:00 By the way, I'm leaving all that in as well as on the other side of the ad. Tara 35:03 No Dave 35:04 It is time for the Extra Hot Great canon. Presenting this week is a recently relieved Tar Arietta. Tara 35:12 Hi, uh It took a while for the full run of Mad About You, a second-tier musty TV sitcom of the 1990s, to be available on a subscription streaming platform. Now that it's here on Hulu, I can't recommend that you, dear listener, do a full watch or re-watch, and I can say that because I did do a full rewatch this year. Among my findings, season two, episode three, titled Bedfellows, is cannon-worthy, and here's why. Number one, it acknowledges its choogy reputation Bedfell is originally aired on NBC September thirtieth, nineteen ninety-three. It would be another two years almost exactly before Seinfeld aired its Season seven premiere, the engagement. current love interest for eating her peas one at a time. George is stuck. Clip one. Clip 36:12 Hello? Hey MSG's rerunning the Yankee game. You watching this? They are. George, you coming to bed? I taped mad about you! Tara 36:21 In real life, Jerry Seinfeld and Paul Reiser had known each other in the New York Stand-up world, that they were unfriendly enough terms was clear back in season one, episode eight of Mad About You, when we find out Paul's old bachelor apartment is currently being sublet by Cosmo Kramer. But by fall 1993, just after the series finale of cheers, the inventive Seinfeld was NBC's biggest sitcom hit. Mad About You was a more traditional, mostly grounded family comedy. Seinfeld's Mad About You gag, and there's also a tag in the same episode of George miserably watching the Mad About You opening credits while an oblivious Susan is merrily enthralled. Could not work if Mad About You wasn't popularly known as the less hip of the two. Both shows dealt in the banal minutiae of life, but having a married couple at its heart meant Mad About You precluded making comedy out of petty breakups It has to take petty fights, at least somewhat seriously, as in this episode when Jamie, Helen Hunt, has put some effort into making breakfast for herself and Paul, the aforementioned riser, who also co created the show with Danny Jacob And Jamie's been waiting tensely for them both to eat and or fight about it for hours, clip two. Clip 37:30 Do you want coffee? No, you know no, I was gonna go to sleep. DCF?okay. Might be a little old. When did you make it? Two hours ago when you said you'd be home. Alrighty. Sweetie. Phone call would have been nice. It's it was the middle of the night. I didn't want to wake you up. Otherwise was to call you, wake you up to tell you that I'm not gonna be home until you're already up. Yes. There's no way I could know that. Also, your mother called. What'd she want? Just the usual. You know, she pleasantly diced me like a scallion and told me to tell you she called. You don't like it? Good. No, it's good. It's very it's great. You don't like it, you don't like it. Sweetie. I spend an hour and a half making you an omelet and you don't eat it. What do you mean an hour and a half? The first three wouldn't fold. It was it's delicious. You know what happened we we finished early, so I went out and I had breakfast with a couple of the guys. Fantastic What? Nothing. You know, I don't really think I should be penalized for missing breakfast, because in all fairness to me, you know, you and omelets, that's not like a pattern we've established. Don't worry, it will never happen again. No, come on. Look, don't Tara 38:50 When someone who doesn't watch this show imagines what an episode is like, this is probably the sort of low stakes bickering they imagine, but Number two, this episode displays the show's greater ambitions. The episode is not about Paul and Jamie's conflict about breakfast, even though it's easy to imagine a version of that that is. After all the second ever episode of the show is all about conflict about shopping for a couch. While Jamie's still waiting for Paul to come home, she gets a call, clip three. Clip 39:17 Hi Sylvia. No, I don't know where your son is. Uh still out shooting his film, I guess. Yeah, I even made breakfast for him. Well you don't have to believe me. Okay. Uh anything I should tell him? Okay. Bye-bye. Move to Florida Tara 39:38 Jamie's in the process of stomping out to work when Ira shows up, clip four. Clip 39:43 It's okay now, but your dad and I were working at the store this morning and he sort of collapsed. Oh my god. What do you mean what happened? No, no, it's it's fine. They got him at the hospital. Your ma says he's gonna be okay. Yeah, well don't trust my mom because according to her grandma's still taking a nap. Tara 39:58 At the hospital, clip five Clip 40:00 Hey, what does that mean? I don't have family hair. Tara 40:05 From here, the episode becomes a masterclass in cramming the greatest amount of familial backstory into the fewest number of lines. It's hard not to clip this whole scene, but this segment is pretty representative. Clip six Clip 40:18 Where did your kids park? On First Avenue. You got a really nice parking space, Uncle Bart. So what do you what did you do? Did you collapse? I tripped. You didn't trip. You could have parked right in front. Would you stop with the parking? Maybe your wife wants to sit down. Do you want to say that's okay. I say black, she says white. You should get back to the store. No, I am, but Marvin's there. Colo City's in Pennsylvania. You sent us 40 pair of golf shoes with no spikes? I got it covered. I sent him a check with no signature. So what did you do? He tried to move a pool table in the store by himself, idiot. It was fiberglass. Shame on you. Of course, if he had a little more help, he wouldn't be lifting things by himself. That's right, Ma. You know, this is all the result of a wrong career choice on my part. What did I say? I said a fact. It has nothing to do with you. Oh He's so sensitive. What are you starting with him? If you polish me off, it's his turn. You're next. Don't be so disrespectful. Then stop torturing everyone. You happy now? About what? You dropped out of graduate school to get married Wow. Tara 41:29 Sometimes a crisis could spur the people involved to be the best version of themselves for one another. Jamie pretends to be this kind of person, for example. Clip seven. Clip 41:38 Should I offer to have dinner with her tonight? Really? Well, it's hard having dinner alone. Go for it. You know what? Just by asking, you build up points. Sylvia, why don't we come by later and take you to dinner? Don't be silly. I'm gonna have a little something and then I'll go to bed. See, you still get the points. Um, maybe Paul and I should come by tonight and stay the night with you so you're not alone. Actually, that would be nice Shoot. Tara 42:09 We hear her say shoot, I assume is a network note. It is clear to me when you look at her that Helen Hunt is mouthing shit. But anyway, the rest of the Buckmans just become the most version of themselves, which Jamie probably wishes she had done as well Number three, it doesn't overreach for the sake of a pat resolution. Having talked herself into spending the night in Queens with Sylvia, played by Cynthia Harris, Jamie tries to make the most of their time together, clip eight. Clip 42:37 Look, you have a husband and I have a husband. We're women. We're family. And you can talk to me about how you feel. I want you to. Tara 42:48 Sylvia stares and then smiles. Clip 42:52 Paul, you know I ran into glory. Tara 42:57 Sylvia shows her care and/or expends her nervous energy with passive aggression, forcing turkey on Paul, then saying he looks heavy, intruding on Paul and Jamie, and Paul's childhood bedroom so she can tell them she's turning the light off in the kitchen. Before fooling around in a room without a lock on the door, they move a dresser in front of it and put Paul's old mattress on the floor, uncovering an ancient Playboy These measures turn out to be premature, clip nine. Clip 43:24 Uh yeah, just a second. Come here, come here, come here. Hold on. Tara 43:29 They move the dresser. Clip 43:30 What'd you do? Head traffic? Uh who is it? Don't be a comedian. Tara 43:38 Put the mattress back Clip 43:39 What are you doing? Uh we're voting. Yeah. Come in My God, can't you skip a night? Tara 43:52 When everyone returns to the hospital the next day, they find out that Bert Lewis Zorek just has angina clip 10. Clip 44:00 Oh tell me what's the good news? Oh you had a mild episode of angina. That's no, it's very common, Pop. They give you a little medication, you'll be fine. Are you a doctor? Oh no, it's more important. He should make movies. You know, it's funny, I saw that one coming, but I couldn't do anything. What are the chances of seeing a doctor today? He's down the hall. Oh, fine Somebody watching the kids? No, I dropped them off in Harlem on my way down. You're becoming a bitter divorcee. Maybe Jamie knows someone for you. You must be plenty of nice young men doing nothing but working all the time. Of course your brother meets nobody but film people. Three bullseyes. She doesn't even reload Tara 44:45 Nothing's gonna change. Bert is gonna keep being a teddy bear, Sylvia is gonna keep being a battle axe, Sharon, Randy Graaff, is mentioned over the rest of the series, but never seen again, so I guess the doctor's note she claimed she was gonna get to be exp Excuse from Thanksgiving ends up covering the rest of her life. The most growth we get is from Jamie, clip 11. Clip 45:05 Sorry about the omelet. What armor? From yesterday. I don't want to be that kind of wife. What kind of wife? Okay. I just talked to Dr. Shapira Tara 45:15 So that bit of business is Bert's heart monitor speeding up whenever Sylvia enters the room and slowing down again when she leaves. Sharon panics that Sylvia is gonna kill Bert and then come with Sharon, but Bert cheerfully explains, of course his heart speeds up whenever the love of his life is around. Phew. Number four, there are even more gags that I can't clip. These include Jamie in a fit of peak throwing up both Paul's omelet and the plate she served it on. Ira taking the subsequently rescued omelette out of Paul's hand and eating it like a burrito, no questions asked. Sylvia openly trying to eavesdrop on Sharon and Paul, discussing her by coming over too straight in a picture frame on the wall behind them in the hospital room. Jamie choking on Sylvia's terrible coffee, Sylvia's completely dead eyed grins at Jamie's attempts to connect with her, Paul Preening in his canoe scented suede and leather jacket from high school Sylvia claiming she doesn't interfere in Paul's marriage and Paul stopping Jamie before she can respond by kissing her. I know Mad About You became a punchline, and not very long after this, but Bedfellows is good, and if you're not gonna vote it into the canon, at least drive safe. I'm sick of going to funerals. Dave 46:25 Thank you, Tara. Kim, you want to take first crack? Kim 46:28 Sure. Well, Tara knows I love mad about you. I don't care if it is a punchline. I don't think it's a punchline. Although Tara and I did have a lot of discussion about where specifically Jamie turns into a real B-word. I guess I can say bitch, I was probably talking around my children and had to use a euphemism, but you know, as the years go on, the show, like most shows especially when the actors are becoming more successful outside of the show. There was a lot of the feeling like especially Helen Hunt didn't want to be there. But this was before all of that hit. And I really enjoyed the nineties nostalgia feelings that it gave me with f Jamie's outfits, absolutely. The wall phone that she had to answer, the fact that nobody had a cell phone, so when they wanted to call people to tell 'em about Bert They had to find an actual phone. I love Bert so much. I had forgotten how much I love Bert. The second he appeared on screen, I was just so happy. My issue with this episode is I hate Sylvia so much And I don't I don't remember hating her this much until I've rewatched this episode in a way that I don't find funny. I just find upsetting the fact that everyone else just kind of like laughs it off or like makes comments to each other. I was like, she's a terrible person. You guys should not talk to her anymore. And maybe that's just how sitcoms have changed. Maybe they wouldn't have a character this abrasive in in today's sitcoms and I've just gotten unused to it. But that was my big issue with the episode uh that otherwise I loved. Dave 47:54 Kim's version of this episode is they just go no contact and after two minutes. Kim 47:57 Yeah. Yeah. Rescue Bert and everybody's happy. Sarah 48:01 Mm-hmm. I was on the fence about this because You know, I had a southern mother in law, may she rest. Sh she won't. They can't. Ble bless her heart Dave 48:15 She won't Sarah 48:16 But there is a lot of overlap between Miss Evelyn and Ms. Sylvia. I'm turning off the lights in the kitchen is the most older person information sharing ever. And it just reminded me how many times I tried to like this show because I think Paul Riser is one of the funniest parts of Diner, which has a lot of funny parts in it and like anytime he's on screen it's like, you know what your problem is? You don't chew your food. Like I I mean I can just do his monologues from that entire I won't But there are so many little lines like that in his delivery of just like, she doesn't even reload, or like, I saw that one coming, I couldn't do anything. This really is what it's like to be dealing with this like personality-disordered mother-in-law who is just terrible to deal with. Like she's not a bad person. She's just completely zero fun. Tara 49:13 Relentless Sarah 49:13 to be around. And Helen Hunt's performance also got at that like futile efforts that you know are in vain to sort of be like, like he says, get the points without actually having to do anything. Like it's just it was just a constant battle and in the end I lost somehow. Anyway, a bunch of wonderful exchanges really like jumping each other's lines really well Again, I'm turning off the lights in the kitchen is when I was sold. Dave 49:41 Yeah. Sarah 49:42 And then there was a callback to it that it's like, what if she has other lights that she has to turn off? She comes back in here, there's not a lock on the door, like Tara 49:49 Mm-hmm. Sarah 49:49 Perfect. I'm turning on the outside light. Okay, Dad. Thanks for that. Tara 49:54 For me, it's even before we hear her voice when she says, I just made him breakfast, pause. You don't have to believe me on the phone. Anyway, go ahead. Sarah 50:03 Yeah, you don't have to ble uh just I mean little throwaways like actually you can't cram a mackerel like of course that's Such a polarizer thing to to leave in. Um, there's yelling about the Mets, but they didn't dwell on it, which was nice because at that at this particular time, uh As in the one we're in today. Best not to dwell on it for too long. But uh yeah, I thought this was really well observed and as Tara mentioned, like it's not overreaching. Like it knows that the script and the show know that it can do this really well and just like color to the very edges of this canvas. I agree that Sylvia's exhausting, but it's a familiar and verite exhausting to me. And that dead-eyed smile when Jamie is just herniating herself trying to get credit or relate was was really good. But this was a treat, but also made me relieved that I'm not in that particular situation with an in-law anymore. Tara 51:04 One historical note before we throw it to Dave. This was directed by Tommy Schlamy, future West Wing director. So, yep. Sarah 51:10 I did note that Dave 51:11 Yeah. Tara 51:12 Dave. Dave 51:12 Just some minor observations to add what everybody else has been saying about this episode. I don't think I'd want to put a thin dinner plate in the oven even if it's just a warm The food. It looked way too delicate to actually put in an oven that way. I feel like it would snap as soon as you try to get it out. Other kitchen observations? Marine blue booze bottles. are super tacky, don't put them in your house. Certainly don't hang them on your bottle tree in your front yard. Sarah 51:40 Fairy nineties Dave 51:41 Extremely 90s. But I still see them around here. All the people that bought their house for two dollars in Austin in the nineties have blue bottle trees in their front here. Paper milk cartons, remember those? Before we had the screw off lid, you'd had to like rip apart the spout and the spout was always sour milky because it just was a sponge and you just had this Sarah 51:52 Mm-hmm. Tara 51:55 Mm-hmm, yep Sarah 52:00 Mm-hmm. Dave 52:01 You had your milk coming out and it would pour over the distinctly yellower milk that has trapped in the paper and that just almost made me vomit thinking about that. Sarah 52:09 Hey, why'd you hate milk as a kid, Sarah? Dave 52:12 Yeah. Sarah 52:13 That all that Dave 52:14 The two moments that were my favorites was Ira, right? Jump Jumpow Tara 52:19 Yes. Mm-hmm Dave 52:21 Uh love your breadcrumbs. I think you undersold the moment with the omelet because Paul comes out to the door and he has the plate of omelet and he sort of like half-acidly offers Ira some omelet as a joke and then Ira rips off half the omelet. And then eats it. So there's like this caveman element to it where he's like, uh, and then he just like eats it freehand, which I thought was funny. Tara 52:43 Mm-hmm. Dave 52:43 And the other one is Helen Hunt, who I generally don't enjoy. Wow. Saying wow in that moment was like is definitely tiny canon line reading uh worthy. Tara 52:49 Yeah, mm-hmm. Dave 52:53 I thought that was really great. Tara 52:54 Yep Dave 52:55 I never really watched Mad About You actively, but I feel like I've seen at least half the series through Osmosis back in the day and then when Tara was doing her rewatch. This episode to me felt like with different characters swapped out. Feels like a Frasier episode. Tara 53:11 Mm-hmm. Dave 53:11 Like it feels like a Fraser plot line. Sarah 53:12 Oh, sure. Tara 53:13 I'll also say it reminded when I was initially started this rewatch, it was around when Long Story Short premiered on Netflix last summer. Dave 53:20 Oh yeah. Tara 53:22 which Paul Reiser is also in, his voice is the the father in the family. There's a lot of common common uh storytelling elements about what it's like to be in a Jewish family and have a Jewish parent of a certain age because the Mother in that show is very overbearing as well. Dave 53:38 Mm-hmm. It surprised me how much I enjoyed it, considering it was from Mad About You. And the only first thing I think about Mad About You is Mad About Shu from The Simpsons. Crossing, oh this goes out for another 20 minutes. Tara 53:49 Mm-hmm. Dave 53:49 That's sort of how I felt about the show, but this surprised me. I thought it was funny, I thought it was quick and very clippy, and I I enjoyed it. So let's put this to the official vote. Kim Reed on defense, it sounds like Kim 54:02 Yeah, I would first like to say thank you to God for giving me a mother-in-law after hearing all of your stories, who was crazy. But in a very enjoyable way. R. I. P. Lucy. Uh, we miss you. I have to vote no. I think there's funnier, better mad about you episodes. What are they? None of your business. I don't know. But this particular episode with Sylvia was just too much for me. Dave 54:25 All right, Sarah. Sarah 54:26 Yeah, it's a yes for me. I think this is the show doing everything that it sets out to do extremely well. And I laughed. And I'm gonna go turn some lights off. Dave. Dave 54:35 Yeah, I agree. I I enjoyed this one. Alright, so it was close, but we got there. So That means Mad About You, Season 2, Episode 3, Bedfellows. You are hereby inducted into the Extra Hot Great Cannon. Clip 54:59 Americans love a winner. Yeah. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. Dave 55:05 It's time to figure out who are our winners and losers of the week. Sarah has this week's winner. Sarah 55:11 I do. It's Task Force giving Julianne Nicholson for season two Tara 55:13 We're going to be able to do that. Sarah 55:19 And she will be reprising her Emmy winning Mayor of East Town role, which I just love that this is the water ice verse now into it. Love both shows. Tara 55:30 The uh DCCU, the Delco cinematic universe. Dave 55:34 Hey loser tar Tara 55:35 Well, first of all, I want to say thank you to Sarah for voting for it. And uh one of the other episodes that I flagged to possibly pitch in the future of Mad About You is uh literally called The Ride Home and It's What You Think It Is. So we'll see how that one goes. Sarah 55:48 Hard talk, yes Tara 55:51 My not uh sorry, my loser of the week, not not quite loser, my full-on loser of the week is the Hills star Kristin Cavallari. Who revealed that when she flies, she books herself in first and her children in coach. Uh, and this is not what makes her a loser. Do what you want. I don't care if your kids are in first. Dave 56:09 But wait, wait, wait. I need just to clarify. Is she traveling with somebody else? Tara 56:13 Yes. Dave 56:15 Is there a nanny or something? Or is there kids just Okay. Tara 56:16 Uh d not said. They that's not clear Dave 56:19 I guess the youngest is nine. Tara 56:21 Yes, they are her current her children are currently fourteen, eleven, and nine. Sarah 56:24 Also, they're on a different flight. Tara 56:26 Well, they might be for all she knows. Sarah 56:26 Cool. No notes. Tara 56:29 This is very let your children run wild and free, the idea of like, well, they can just go there and the community of strangers can look after them, I guess. As of last year, they still slept in her bed, so I guess she's just very selective about when she wants to spend time with them. And on a plane is not part of it. So good luck to anyone who finds themselves in coach with Kristin Cavallari's unattended children. Dave 56:52 Well Kim 56:53 Yeah, I want to say that I do not believe that the children of Kristin Cavallari and Jay Cutler behave themselves in any way on a plane or otherwise because they are both garbage people and and hopefully their kids will rise above, but mm, what are the ads? Tara 57:01 Why? Mm-hmm. Right. Also I think they're not vaccinated, so again, good luck to anyone who's in coach with Kristin Cavallari's children. Sarah 57:12 Oh, Jesus. All right. Dave 57:14 It's just the plane, they'll be fine. It's not a disease vector, don't worry about it. Uh I've already forgot the thing I was gonna say, so uh there you go. Tara 57:23 Speaking of disease vectors Dave 57:25 Do you know what time it is? Sarah 57:26 Yeah. Tara 57:26 It um time to cough in your mouth Dave 57:40 Alright everybody, it's been a couple weeks since we had a proper game time, so it is the sixth to situate you. Our scores are Tara with two. Value Guest with two, Sarah with one, she won the last game which was in six twenty. Today we're playing Hey, it's that author from Erica, who earns herself a free item from the EHG store at through methods dot com. In round one of Hey, it's that author, I will read you the title of a celebrity memoir and the year it was published. These are all TV actors in some regards. In round one, I will read you the title of a celebrity memoir and the year it was published. For two points, name the author. If you need a hint, I will tell you a TV show that they were in, after which the answer is worth one. Servity binding you get two guess at each level. Hooray. Sarah 58:29 Thank you. Dave 58:30 Round one includes books that either made a splash when they came out or that Erica thinks you have a decent chance of getting from context clues in the title itself. Round two is harder, so the points are a little higher there. We'll get to it when we get to it. Still meal situation, please. Tara 58:47 Thank you, Dave. Valued guest, Kim. You have one plus Eric's meal for a total of two steel meals. Dave 58:53 Mm-hmm. Tara 58:54 Sarah has one. I have six. Dave 58:56 Wow. Alright, let's throw it at PICCI to see our order today. Clip 59:01 We will start with valued guest. Dave 59:02 Alright, we're gonna go Kim Sarah Tara. Here's an example. This is not for points, but just so you get the flow here. The year is 2026, which is this year. The book title is I Choose Me, Chasing Joy, Finding Purpose, and Embracing Reinvention. Clip 59:17 Kind of open on a kind of bomb bag. Dave 59:19 Who wrote I Choose Me? Clip 59:20 I'm on the couple of it. Tara 59:21 Jenny Garth. Clip 59:22 I want the cut. Kim 59:22 Jenny Garth Sarah 59:22 Jenny Bar. Dave 59:23 That's right. That would be worth two points. Tara 59:24 And sh she did not give a galley to decider for me to review it. Clip 59:26 Oh my god. Dave 59:29 Yeah. All right. Sarah 59:30 What? Tara 59:31 Can you believe it? Sarah 59:31 Why Dave 59:31 To Kim, your first memoir was published in 2018. Kim 59:33 Yes. Dave 59:37 It is called Perfect Is Boring: 10 Things My Crazy Fierce Mama Taught Me About Beauty Booty and being a boss. Who wrote that? It is a TV actor or a TV personality. If you Tyra Banks is worth two points, correct Kim 59:51 Tyra Banks Sarah 59:55 Nice. Dave 59:55 Sarah D. Bunting, your first is from 2011. Sarah 59:56 Yeah Dave 59:59 The title is Bossy Pants. Bossy Pants. It is not the French lady from Little House on the Prairie. Sarah 01:00:07 I'm sorry to hear that, and so is the author, Tina Faye. Clip 01:00:09 Know the green ball and both Kelly Bomb game because Dave 01:00:10 You are correct. Two points. Tara. Tara 01:00:13 Yeah. Dave 01:00:13 2018. Always look on the bright side of life, a sorta biography. Tara 01:00:19 I'm gonna say that's probably Eric Idol. Dave 01:00:20 You are correct. Everybody's got two points. Back to Kim. 2023-4. Making it so. Kim 01:00:29 Patrick Stewart Clip 01:00:30 Candle cable. Dave 01:00:30 Patrick Stewart, good for two points. Sarah, 2022. Clip 01:00:34 I want a member. Dave 01:00:35 I'm glad my mom died. Clip 01:00:36 I want the controller. The Kato Bok Ring Bowen bomb yeah, you can see because we'll bother to go and both doesn't care about Kyle. Sarah 01:00:39 Fuck, I read this too. What is her goddamn last name? It is Jeanette McCurdy Dave 01:00:45 That is correct. Clip 01:00:45 Because a bandic cut the Kato Both ring Dave 01:00:47 Tara, twenty fifteen, Troublemaker, surviving Hollywood and Scientology Tara 01:00:53 I read this, Leah Remini. Dave 01:00:55 Yes, two points. Two points, two points, two points, two points. Everybody's got two points for every question. Back to Kim. 2020. No time like the future. An Optimist considers mortality. Kim 01:01:09 I feel like I should know this, but I actually have Yeah, that's what I'm trying to think about it. Dave 01:01:11 There's some clues in that title. Kim 01:01:16 Um Dave 01:01:17 Got that colon in there Kim 01:01:19 The colon is helpful in life and the title. I'm gonna say, I really have no idea. Um Patrick's Patrick Stewart Tara 01:01:28 You can guess at every level. Dave 01:01:31 Oh, Patrick Stewart again. Clip 01:01:31 Okay. Kim 01:01:33 Yeah. Dave 01:01:33 No. Kim 01:01:33 Maybe he wrote two. Dave 01:01:34 A show this actor was in is Spin City Kim 01:01:38 Michael J. Dave 01:01:38 Michael J. Kim 01:01:38 Fox Dave 01:01:39 Fox, no time like the future. Optimist considers mortality. Sarah 01:01:42 Oh okay. Kim 01:01:42 Oh I was thinking like sci-fi future. Dave 01:01:46 Hmm. Sarah 01:01:47 Uh-huh. Kim 01:01:47 Okay, I get it Dave 01:01:47 Serve D. Bunting 2025. 100 Rules for Living to 100. An optimist guide to a happy life. Sarah 01:01:57 Living to one hundred. Dave 01:01:58 Yeah, one hundred rules for the living Sarah 01:02:02 Ah shit. When was this again? Tara 01:02:04 Last year Sarah 01:02:05 2020 Okay. Uh hm. Carl Reiner. Dave 01:02:11 A show this person was involved in is Diagnosis Murder. Sarah 01:02:16 Oh, Dick Van Dyke Clip 01:02:16 Kiddle about the bond out. Dave 01:02:16 Dict Van Dyker for one point Tara 01:02:17 I was gonna say, you had an extra credit about this person. I almost said, not sure I was right. Sarah 01:02:22 I didn't know he wrote a book, jeez. Tara 01:02:23 Yes. Dave 01:02:24 Twenty twenty-two. Tara 01:02:25 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:02:26 Friends, lovers, and the big terrible thing Tara 01:02:29 Matthew Perry Dave 01:02:30 That is correct. Kim twenty sixteen, the Princess Diarist Kim 01:02:37 Uh Carrie Fisher. Dave 01:02:38 Carrie Fisher, we're s we're shoehoring in for catastrophe. And 30 Rock, sure. 2020, Sarah D. Bunting. The answer is reflections on my life. Clip 01:02:48 I'm on the gold one code. I want to go. Dave 01:02:53 The answer is dot dot dot reflections on my life. Sarah 01:02:58 Uh, Alex Trebek? Dave 01:02:59 You are correct. Tar, 2018, live long and m-dash what I might have learned along the way. Live long and what I might have learned along the way. Tara 01:03:12 Leonard Nimoy? Oh Dave 01:03:16 This person was in Boston legal. Tara 01:03:18 Oh, the other one. William Shatner. Dave 01:03:21 William Shatner, good for one. Tara 01:03:22 We are all tied up, guys Dave 01:03:23 All right. All tied up. Everybody's got one more question in round one, then we'll deal with the scores. Kim 2016, talking as fast as I can. Kim 01:03:33 Lauren Graham Dave 01:03:34 Lauren Graham is correct. Yes, two points. Sarah D. Bunting 1995. Sarah 01:03:36 Well Dave 01:03:39 My point, and I do have one. Sarah 01:03:45 I feel like I read this point. I I feel like I own this. Dave 01:03:49 I'm just gonna give you a little pre-clue here. Sarah 01:03:50 Ooh. Dave 01:03:52 I think this clue can pretty much apply to anything this person has done on TV because I think all her shows are the same. Tara 01:03:59 Oh, extra hint Sarah 01:04:01 Mm. Clip 01:04:02 Oh, we're Dave 01:04:02 Alright, my point, and I do have one. Sarah 01:04:03 Oh, I and I do Point and I do have one. Dave 01:04:07 I feel really confident in you getting at least one point here. Sarah 01:04:10 I just I I don't I was gonna guess Jerry Seinfeld then. That's not it, so hint please. Dave 01:04:16 But da da da but uh. All right. Tara 01:04:18 You're so close. Dave 01:04:19 Your hint is Ellen Sarah 01:04:22 Oh, Eln DeGeneris. Dave 01:04:25 That's correct. Good for one point. Tara, we're gonna close round one with you. Sarah 01:04:27 Yay. Tara 01:04:27 Yep. Yep Dave 01:04:32 The last black unicorn. Sarah 01:04:37 What year? Dave 01:04:38 Oh, twenty seventeen, sorry, thank you. Twenty seventeen, the last black unicorn. Tara 01:04:44 Tracy Morgan Dave 01:04:47 The show is the last OG, but it's still not Tracy Morgan. Tara 01:04:50 Oh my God. Oh, Tiffany had it Dave 01:04:53 Tiffany had it is correct for one, and that is round one, so I would appreciate some scores. Tara 01:04:58 Okay. Kim has nine points. Sarah and I are tied with eight a piece Dave 01:05:04 Oh, that means that you two are in the Grosswirth Equalizer Challenge together! Tara 01:05:09 Oh shit! Kim 01:05:16 I should have tanked the first round so I could get the equalizer challenge. Dave 01:05:19 All right, amongst yourselves, give me a number between one and six. Tara 01:05:23 Four great Sarah 01:05:24 It's gonna say two, so three it is. Dave 01:05:26 Okay. Alright. You have selected the original T V box expansion, the blue box. Tara 01:05:32 Okay, blue. Dave 01:05:32 So we've got Yeah. It's it's blue uh if I took the red out of purple is what I meant to say. Tara 01:05:40 I see Dave 01:05:40 Um but I didn't, so it's purple. I hope you all enjoyed that. Tara 01:05:44 Visual joke. Sarah 01:05:45 Fascinating, fascinating audio content. Tara 01:05:47 Mm-hmm Dave 01:05:48 All right, just to remind you, um, we've got categories in this box, so we're just gonna use one card. And I'm not sure if we did that before, so I'm just gonna pick one from a little deeper in the deck. Here we go. Tara 01:05:58 What are what do we get? Sarah 01:05:58 How do the points work? Dave 01:06:00 You get to watch me turn on a brighter light so we can read this. Alright, here's what's at stake. Four points if you get three together, and if you manage to sweep it, we're gonna give you six. Alright? Sarah 01:06:12 Okay. Tara 01:06:13 To split okay, got it Dave 01:06:13 But y to split. So if you get four points each get two. Sarah 01:06:15 Okay. Dave 01:06:17 Classics. Who did Frank Fontaine play in the Joe and the bartender skits on the Jackie Gleason show? Clip 01:06:23 Oh, it was Tara 01:06:27 Fuck off. Dave 01:06:27 Ah guess you're not getting that six points Uh any other guesses Tara 01:06:30 Oh my God. Sarah 01:06:31 Even even I'm not that old. The bartender Tara 01:06:37 I mean Who was the i who was the guy that played Ar sh I'll I'm just gonna say Art Kearney 'cause he was also in the honeymooners because Dave 01:06:45 Well, it's a character. Tara 01:06:46 Yeah. Dave 01:06:46 Who did Frank Fontaine play? Tara 01:06:47 Oh, that's the actor. Dave 01:06:49 Yeah. It doesn't matter, you're never gonna get it. Tara 01:06:50 Um Bill the drunk. Oh. Dave 01:06:53 CRAZY Guggenheim. Tara 01:06:54 You're right, I wouldn't have Sarah 01:06:56 Wow. Dave 01:06:56 Hey. Sarah 01:06:57 As opposed to regular old Guggenheim. Dave 01:06:59 Yeah. Sitcoms. Sarah 01:07:01 Fuck Dave 01:07:02 What type of writing did Oscar Madison do in The Odd Couple? Tara 01:07:06 He was a sports sportswriter, right? Sarah 01:07:08 Yes, correct. Dave 01:07:09 You are correct. Drama. What seventies cop often wisecracked, Who Loves Ya, baby? Tara 01:07:16 Go deck. Dave 01:07:18 Two. Kids and Games, I think this is? Tara 01:07:21 Mm-hmm Dave 01:07:21 What nineteen seventy-nine show did NBC mistakenly think would rekindle the Flintstones fire? Tara 01:07:29 The new Flintstones? I don't know. Sarah 01:07:31 Pebbles and Bam Bam, was that the name of it? Clip 01:07:31 I am on the I want to go with Empire. Tara 01:07:33 Sure, let's say that Dave 01:07:34 You're collectively very close, but not on the Mark. Clip 01:07:34 I want to take a recon I am on the I want to go with Emble, I want to take a reconcile. Dave 01:07:37 It was called the New Fred and Barney Show Yeah. Alright. Sarah 01:07:42 Oh just don't stop Dave 01:07:42 You need one of these last two to collect your points. Tara 01:07:44 Okay Dave 01:07:46 This is stars. Tara 01:07:48 What what the listener can't see is that Sarah has two fingers up and her Zoom window is going crazy with balloons of celebration for us not getting this yet. Okay. Dave 01:07:58 Stars. What CBS Newsman was affectionately nicknamed Uncle Walter. Tara 01:08:03 Walter Kronkite Wee. Sarah 01:08:04 Cronkite Dave 01:08:08 Two points apiece to add to your total. So I believe now you're both one point ahead of Kim Tara 01:08:12 That's correct. Sarah 01:08:13 Yes Dave 01:08:13 Let's get back to it. Round two, a little harder. Clip 01:08:15 Don't vote ring both the colour and both layers. Dave 01:08:16 Three points for the answer, one point after the hint. So if you can get it off the break, you're gonna get a lot more points. Starting back with Kim, year in the title, 2020. The title is I Want to Be Where the Normal People Are. I Want to Be Where the Normal People Are. The author is a TV actor or personality. You can guess at each level. If you don't know it here, we'll give you the TV show. Kim 01:08:38 I Want to Be Where the Normal People Are is a book that was written by Dave 01:08:41 Yeah. That's correct. Yes. Kim 01:08:46 Some weirdo who's not normal and is not me. I'm gonna say 2020, huh? Jon Hamm. I have no idea. Dave 01:08:56 That is incorrect. The TV show this person was in is called Crazy Ex Girlfriend. Kim 01:09:03 Rachel. Oh my god, what's her last name? It just went blank. Bloom? Dave 01:09:09 You are correct. Kim 01:09:09 Oh. Sarah 01:09:10 Nice pull. Dave 01:09:10 One point. Tara 01:09:11 Good job. Kim 01:09:11 Thank you, Brain. Dave 01:09:12 Sarah D. Bunting, this is question 17. Sarah 01:09:15 Well, it's pretty cool. Dave 01:09:16 Also takes place in 2020, and by take place I mean publish. Tara 01:09:22 Uh-huh. Dave 01:09:22 A very punchable face. A very punchable face Kim 01:09:27 Ancorreto, Tara 01:09:28 Yep. Sarah 01:09:31 I don't. Clip 01:09:32 I want to go and go by our cable. Sarah 01:09:33 Uh oh, Neil Patrick Harris. Tara 01:09:35 Good guess. Kim 01:09:36 Good gas Tara 01:09:36 He also has a very punchable face. Dave 01:09:39 The TV show is Saturday Night Live. Clip 01:09:39 I'll bother the goal and bull. Sarah 01:09:42 Oh my god, that doesn't narrow it down. Clip 01:09:44 Kyoto Ring bull and kind of go with it. Tara 01:09:44 No, it doesn't. Dave 01:09:47 He is in Saturday Night Live. Sarah 01:09:47 College O'Sed? Tara 01:09:49 Yes Dave 01:09:49 Yes. Sarah 01:09:52 The the larger one's the dad. Thanks, buddy. Dave 01:09:56 Tara 2018 Box of Butterflies discovering the unexpected blessings all around us. Sarah 01:09:56 Oh Tara 01:10:04 Oh god. I know I don't want to read it, I'll tell you that. Dave 01:10:09 Box of butterflies, discovering the unexpected blessings all around us. Tara 01:10:10 Yeah. Dave 01:10:15 Everywhere. Tara 01:10:16 Caterpillar Dennings Dave 01:10:19 Oh the show this person was in is called Touched by an Angel. Tara 01:10:23 Roma Downey Junior. Dave 01:10:24 That's good for one. Back to Kim for question. Tara 01:10:26 Just kidding. Dave 01:10:32 2018. I forgot to give you the year, I think, Tara. It was 2018. Clip 01:10:36 Okay, don't both bring it both. Dave 01:10:37 No. 2018 for Kim. Clip 01:10:38 I am on my hand. I'm on the country. Dave 01:10:39 My squirrel days. My squirrel days. Kim 01:10:46 Matthew Gray Goobler. What if that was right? Dave 01:10:49 What if? This person was in the office, which is not a super awesome clue for you. But I understand why they didn't put the other show this person was in. Kim 01:11:00 Could I tell you who it's not and get points? Dave 01:11:03 Yes, if you tell me absolutely everybody's ever been in the office. Kim 01:11:03 Probably not. Oh, every everyone in the cast of the office who did not write it. Dave 01:11:08 Yeah. Kim 01:11:08 Um, my squirrel days from somebody who was on the office. Dave 01:11:13 Yep. Kim 01:11:15 Rain Wilson? Dave 01:11:17 Anybody w anybody know this one? Tara 01:11:19 Is it uh Ellie Camper? Dave 01:11:21 It is Ellie Camper, yes. Tara 01:11:22 Hmm Sarah 01:11:22 Oh wow Dave 01:11:23 Back to Sarah for this 2022 memoir called We Were Dreamers, an Immigrant Superhero Origin Story. I'm gonna give you a little clue here. Don't get too caught up in the title on this one in relation to a TV show because he's they're not talking about a TV show in the title. Sarah 01:11:40 Ah, gotcha. Dave 01:11:42 It's Trixie. Sarah 01:11:43 Oh, it's Trixie. Dave 01:11:44 We Were Dreamers an Immigrant Superhero Origin Story. Sarah 01:11:48 Kenjong, I don't know. Dave 01:11:51 A show this person was in Kim's convenience Kim's Convenience, We Were Dreamers, an Immigrant Superhero Origin Story. Sarah 01:12:02 I when you say it, I will be mad, but I don't know it. Dave 01:12:04 Uh-huh. Anybody know this one? Steel meal's still in effect. Tara 01:12:09 See Moule Dave 01:12:10 Yeah, it is correct. Seemu Liu. Sarah 01:12:13 Who? Dave 01:12:13 Simu Liu from Marvel Tara 01:12:13 Simu Liu played Shang Shi Ji Sarah 01:12:15 Oh, right, right. Dave 01:12:18 Bracelet guy is how you like to call him. And it the world likes to call him now. Clip 01:12:22 No, not one. Tara 01:12:22 I didn't even remember that was his thing. Dave 01:12:24 Doesn't he have like bracelets over his arms or something? Tara 01:12:25 I don't know. I do not know Dave 01:12:28 Yeah. It's basically like if Claire's was a movie, he just like accessorizes really well. Tara 01:12:32 Uh-huh. Sarah 01:12:32 Uh-huh. Tara 01:12:33 But not to be confused with Ms. Marvel's bracelets. Dave 01:12:36 Tara. Tara 01:12:37 Yeah. Dave 01:12:38 2015. Yes, my accent is real and other things I haven't told you. Tara 01:12:44 Sophia Vergara Dave 01:12:46 This person is from the Big Bang Theory. Sarah 01:12:47 Good guess. Tara 01:12:54 Uh I No, I'm trying to think. Dave 01:12:57 Are you trying to think of it or you take it a shit right now? What's going on here? Tara 01:13:02 Uh this is not right, Kaylee Cuoco Dave 01:13:05 No, anybody know this one? Tara 01:13:06 No, it's the Indian guy whose name I don't know, I suspect. Sarah 01:13:07 Uh uh. Dave 01:13:09 It's Kunal Yeyar. Tara 01:13:10 That's it! Dave 01:13:11 Nayar, sorry. Sarah 01:13:12 Oh Tara 01:13:12 Nyar. Dave 01:13:13 Yeah. Tara 01:13:13 Yeah Dave 01:13:14 Back to Kim 2022, comedy, comedy, comedy drama. Kim 01:13:16 Ajá Tara 01:13:19 I read this book and Dave 01:13:23 It's a book tar red. That's your additional hint. Kim 01:13:25 Thank you. Tara 01:13:26 That is no Dave 01:13:26 Yeah. It's not Lena Dunham. I don't want to steer you down that path. Kim 01:13:30 No. I've actually read both of her memoirs and they were not called that. Dave 01:13:34 Okay. Comedy, comedy, comedy, drama. Clip 01:13:35 Okay. Kim 01:13:37 Um I'm gonna go with my go-to Jon Hamm, because I have no idea. Dave 01:13:41 Incorrect. This person was in better call sol. Kim 01:13:45 Madame Kirk. Dave 01:13:45 Bob Odenkirk is good for one. It sounds like it's about a quarter drama. Tara 01:13:50 Uh-huh. Dave 01:13:51 Hmm. Tara 01:13:51 Well, 'cause it ends with his heart attack. Dave 01:13:54 I know. I was making a uh title check. Tara 01:13:55 Yes, I understand. I'm just saying Dave 01:13:56 It was hilarious. It's the funniest thing people heard since Claire Accessory Superhero. Tara 01:13:57 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:14:02 Sarah D. Bunting 2013, Paddle Your Own Canoe, One Man's Principles for Delicious Living. Tara 01:14:02 Sarah Dave 01:14:10 2013. Sarah 01:14:12 Paddle your own canoe, one man's Dave 01:14:15 One man's principles for delicious living. It is not Mr. D from the Rax roast beef restaurant commercials, even though he does like to talk about delicious living. Sarah 01:14:27 Oh my god. Clip 01:14:29 Oh he was Sarah 01:14:29 Uh I d I can't remember his last name now. So um Ted from Queer Eye, who was also unChopped. Dave 01:14:36 This person was in a show called Parks and Recreation. Sarah 01:14:40 What? Who which one? Chris Pratt? I don't know. Kim 01:14:46 Steel meal can I get yeah, Nick Offerman? Dave 01:14:46 What if it was called oh, steel mill? Yep. You are correct. That is good for one point. Sarah 01:14:52 Nice, I Dave 01:14:54 If it was called make your own canoe, would he have got it? Since he's a woodworker. Sarah 01:14:58 No. If it was called I Chester Arthur order you to make your own canoe, maybe? Kim 01:14:59 I think he did make his own canoe. Dave 01:15:03 It was called women's song sausages or whatever that was, yeah. Clip 01:15:05 Oh, a gool around the game. Sarah 01:15:06 Paddle your own two hats at the same time? Dave 01:15:09 Tara twenty fifteen, the misadventures of an awkward black girl Tara 01:15:10 Yeah Clip 01:15:14 Yeah. Tara 01:15:15 All right. Dave 01:15:15 Issa Rae is our three-point answer. Nicely done. Back to Kim 2025. Grit, Spit, and Never Quit. A Marines Guide to Comedy and Life. Tara 01:15:27 Weirdly it's Issa Rae again, just kidding. Dave 01:15:28 Yeah. Sarah 01:15:31 Is this Ted from Chopped? Kim 01:15:32 Marine? Um, John Cena Dave 01:15:36 Oh, if only you said Jon Hamm, it would still be wrong. Clip 01:15:36 And one banner, I want to go with another cut, I'll cut a both green bullet one. Dave 01:15:41 This actor was in fifteen episodes of NTSF S D S U V. Clip 01:15:45 I want you to I want you to go to the cable. Tara 01:15:49 Right. Kim 01:15:50 I mean, I know like the the vibe of who was in that show, but I'm trying to think which of them might have been a Marine or made a joke about being a Marine or uh Rob Riggle? Dave 01:15:58 Yeah. Rob Riggle correct? Sarah 01:16:02 Wow, nice Tara 01:16:02 Yep. Dave 01:16:02 Yes. Holy moly would have been a giveaway clue, I guess, probably. It's probably not Steph Curry. He probably wasn't in the murder. Sarity Bunting 2026. That's this year. You better believe I'm gonna talk about it. You better believe I'm gonna talk about it. That's the memoir title, Who Wrote It? Sarah 01:16:23 John Ham Dave 01:16:25 This person was in days of our lives Sarah 01:16:29 Susan Lucciana Dave 01:16:32 This person any steel meals? This person was also in Melrose Place. This person was also in Harry Hamlin. Tara 01:16:43 Oh Sarah 01:16:44 Oh. Kim 01:16:46 Eu Sarah 01:16:47 Oh yeah. Lisa Dave 01:16:49 Lisa Renna. All right. Tara. Twenty eleven. Clip 01:16:55 Cano, cause a manga canoa and the control, cause I'm like Dave 01:16:56 Stories I only tell my friends Roblo, another three-pointer. Sarah 01:17:00 I knew that one, damn it! Dave 01:17:02 Alright, everybody's last question coming at you, so I'm gonna ask for the scores. I feel like Tarz pull it ahead, but let's find out. Sarah 01:17:08 Yeah, don't think it matters. Tara 01:17:08 Sarah has eleven, Kim has thirteen, I have seventeen. Sarah, do you concur? Sarah 01:17:15 Yes, I concur. Jon Hamm and I agree. Dave 01:17:19 Let's get to everybody's last question. Kim 2018, whiskey and a teacup. Whiskey and a teacup. Kim 01:17:29 Whiskey in a teacup? Clip 01:17:30 What bamboo player does it go? Kim 01:17:32 What the Hell, Jon Hamm? Tara 01:17:35 You know he's done it. Dave 01:17:36 This person was in the morning show. Sarah 01:17:37 Yeah Tara 01:17:39 John Ham Dave 01:17:40 Don Hamm. Kim 01:17:40 Yeah. Reese Witherspoon? Dave 01:17:43 Yes, We Sweaterspoon is correct. Kim 01:17:44 Oh, I didn't know she'd written a book. Sarah 01:17:45 No. Dave 01:17:45 One point. Kim 01:17:46 Hmm. Dave 01:17:47 Oh, excuse me. Kim 01:17:48 God bless you. Dave 01:17:49 Thank you. Sarah, 2019. Yeah, 54 burps and farts are still funny. Deal with it. 2019 Sarah D. Bunting. Grateful American, a journey from self to service. Grateful American, a journey from self to service. Sarah 01:18:11 Uh I just don't know. Dave 01:18:16 Well, they're American. Sarah 01:18:16 It's not Jon Hamm Dave 01:18:18 Not Jon Hamm. He's not grateful. He'd move out of here in a second if he could, if he only had the means. Tara 01:18:23 He does serve though, if you know what I mean. Dave 01:18:27 All right, clue time C S I N Y Sarah 01:18:28 Yeah Kim 01:18:32 Yeah. Tara 01:18:33 Right. Dave 01:18:34 Uh Gary Sinise is correct for one point. Sarah 01:18:35 Carry Sinise. Dave 01:18:38 Yes. Alright, wrapping it up, Tatara 2016, the girl with the lower back tattoo. Kim 01:18:45 Read it. Dave 01:18:49 Oh, Tar's taking a second shit of the episode. Oh, it's Tara Ariano and she pooped her pants. Tara 01:18:56 The girl with the lower back tattoo, Anna Ferris. Dave 01:18:58 Mm-hmm. This person was in the television program Life and Beth. Tara 01:19:06 Amy Schumer. Dave 01:19:07 Is correct for one point and that is regulation, so I would like the scores, please. Tara 01:19:12 Okay, everyone did very well. Sarah finished with twelve. Kim had fourteen. I have eighteen. Dave 01:19:19 All right, nicely done, everybody. Kim 01:19:21 Good job, guys Dave 01:19:22 Thank you, Erica, for that. Sarah 01:19:23 Nice. Dave 01:19:24 That was fun. Today belongs to Tara. Sarah 01:19:25 Yeah Clip 01:19:32 Tara Dave 01:19:34 All right, guys That is it for another episode of Extra Hot Great. We built ourselves a little house on the prairie discussion before going around the dial with stops at the other Bennett sister, aka Thank you. Big Brother, House of the Dragons, Squatters, and Human Vapor. We were not mad about Tara's cannon pitch for Mad About You's Bedfellows. We crown winners and losers of the week, and Tara was a winner of this week's game time. from America. Next up this Friday is lucky. Remember Clip 01:20:09 We're listening. Dave 01:20:12 I am David T. Cole and on behalf of Tara Ariano, Sarah D Butting, and Kim Reed. Tara 01:20:15 I'm also turning off the lights in the kitchen. Sarah 01:20:19 Actually, she's not a blonde. Kim 01:20:22 I'm a Tennessee wildcat Dave 01:20:24 Thanks for listening and we'll see you next time right here on Extra Hot Great. Clip 01:20:37 This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. I'm saying. Goodbye.