Giving You The Lowdown On The Lowdown

Clip: [00:00] I'll give you a thousand dollars for those shades this head in a brief makeup tutorial. Okay. Dave: [00:19] This is the Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 581 for the week of September 22nd, 2025. I am Peace of Shit David T. Cole, and I'm here with Poorly Groomed Bookstore owner Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah: [00:37] I'm not a murderer, I've been murdered. Dave: [00:39] Drunk widow Tara Ariana and doesn't read the calendar and never will Patrick Monaghan Welcome back, Patrick. Tara: [00:41] He was a good man. Patty: [00:46] Forty minutes is good. Tara: [00:53] Welcome to Extra Hot Great for another week joining us. He is a podcast host. You've heard him with us before. It's Patrick Monaghan. Welcome back, Patrick. Patty: [01:03] Hello, hello, hello. Sarah: [01:03] Patrick If you think I'm not going to recommend a show about a conspiracy jocking bookstore owner who just Casually sniffs his sharpie while updating his crazy wall. Tara: [01:07] We're delighted to have you to talk about the lowdown in which Lee Raybon, Ethan Hawk. Dave: [01:07] Hello. Tara: [01:13] Is a rare book stealer and journalist in Tulsa, Oklahoma. As we meet him, he has just published a huge expose of the powerful Washberg family. Including Donald, Kyle McLaughlin, a businessman running for governor. But since that piece coincided with the apparent suicide of Dale, Tim Blake Nelson, Donald's brother, a lot of people have their eyes on Lee. He doesn't have the leisure to worry much about that while he also has to find money to pay his one-shop employee, look after his daughter Frances, Ryan Kira Armstrong, and oh yeah, evade the local skinheads who are mad about some of his other pieces. The show was created by Sterling Harjo, who previously brought us Reservation Dogs. It premiered its first two episodes Tuesday, September 23rd on FX. So that's probably all we're going to talk about. although I've seen the first five of eight in the season. Let's do the Chen check-in. Patty, should our listeners watch the lowdown? Patty: [02:05] I think, yes. It's a shaggy show. It's not very propulsive, at least in the first two. I like watching the guy get always beaten up. And that's you have you have that for sure. Tara: [02:14] Sarah. Sarah: [02:27] You literally do not know me at all. Yes, you should watch it. Dave: [02:32] Thank you, Patty, for the got beat up a lot because I was trying to figure out what it reminded me of and it was Jake from Chinatown. I was getting the shit beat out of him. I enjoyed it. It was scratching a Cohen brothers itch that I needed scratch. Sarah: [02:45] Mm-hmm, for sure. Tara: [02:46] Yes. All right, let's get into the spoiler zone. For me, one of the many strengths of reservation dogs is how quickly it makes the viewer feel Situated in its world and how fully realized that world is. Patty, did you feel like the lowdown does the same thing? Patty: [03:00] Yeah, I I mean, you you get a very good sense very quickly of kind of who everyone seems to be, and then you start seeing them in the same place, you know, all in the same places over and over again. It's like, oh, okay, they're all Funeral, so these are powerful people, you know, yada yada yada. So, yeah, I thought it did a good job of building that out. Dave: [03:17] I think Reservation Dogs has the benefit of being a world many of us aren't familiar with or intimately familiar with. So it felt like it was sucking you in more. Whereas this one's a little more familiar, but I thought it did a really good job. If not place and time, mood and feeling, you know, like it, it felt like Going to that really old restaurant in town where it's like, you know, this has been here forever. How's this Spanish restaurant still here? You know, and then it's like, well, you know, we just can't beat Casa de Toro. It's just going to be here forever. It felt like that kind of universe to me. Tara: [03:50] Yeah, I'll also say as the season goes on, you see more Tulsa area junk shops. And every time they went to a new one, I was like. We gotta go to Tulsa. It's only like a seven hour drive from here, so we totally could. And also for the reservation dogs watchers, Devery Jacobs makes a teeny tiny cameo in the second episode related to the makeup tutorial that we heard about too. Ethan Hawke appeared in one of the last episodes of Reservation Dogs, apparently just because he liked the show and reached out to be on it. So based on the early evidence here, what do we think of him as a Sterling Harjo protagonist? Patty: [04:23] I think he settles very well into the role. I took me a while to figure out what I was getting a vibe of. And it was a movie that is problematic in the sense of who made it, but uh well, actually and who's in it, Jesus. Uh but I really love the movie The Ninth Gate about a dirt bag rare book dealer getting in over his head on a bunch of stuff. Tara: [04:38] Sure. Mm-hmm. Patty: [04:41] This is another rare book guy who gets in over his head on some stuff, maybe a little bit more intentionally. Tara: [04:44] Mhm. Yes. Patty: [04:46] Like I said, and he's always got like another band-aid on or something. You know, I don't know how far it goes over the eight episodes, you know. Dave: [04:52] He's the mummy at the end. Patty: [04:53] Yeah, he's in a full body cast. Dave: [04:54] Yeah. Patty: [04:56] The last few episodes, somebody's pushing around a hospital bed. He's on traction. Tara: [05:00] Yeah, I feel like Ethan Hawk is one of the few leading men of his like, of his level, I guess, of fame who can convincingly play a fuck-up to this degree without seeming like he's doing it mostly. To prove that he can. I mean, Sarah, do you agree? Sarah: [05:13] Yeah, that was one of my notes that I was like, I'm not sure if this is because I watched Boyhood and really loved it. I was bringing some of his vibes in For him to this, as well as like Lebowski meets Lone Gunman vibes. But I think it's a credit to his performance. And you mentioned this in your review on Cracked Truth Story and like Calm Down. A little bit, but like a protagonist like this, you don't always see why people put up with him in the universe. Right? Like the performance isn't always like sometimes it's like too anti-hero, sometimes he's just too feckless. Ethan Hogg does a really good job pitching this like Amped up, true believing, like white boy who cares, as a couple of other characters put it. You get a sense of like the smarts and the charm and the experience that this character actually also has and not just the he's always late and he's like, you know, trying to talk his tween daughter out of going on stakeouts, but not talking her out of it that much. Crazy wall guy. So, this is really good casting because he is convincing as this person, but also not so convincing that you're like, why hasn't he been kicked to death by now? Tara: [06:35] Mm-hmm. Sarah: [06:35] Like long before the show started. Tara: [06:37] Yeah. Sarah: [06:37] So, yeah, good choice there. Tara: [06:40] Well, we have to talk about the rare books part of it too. Past the Ninth Gate, because bookish is coming to PBS, I think, soon. And now this, Sarah, how does it feel to see your lived experience represented in pop culture like this? Sarah: [06:53] I'm just like a true crime second hand book person. There's occasionally a rarity. Rare book people are a different, even more bizarre breed. In my experience. But I mean, you do love to see it. And like, you do also want, given where the series you began. In the first season, you do want some more relatable, aspirational stories told about us extreme weirdos, but there's a couple of throwaway lines about like Selling old 70s copies of On the Road is not going to cut it. Like you're always, you're waiting for the whale, sometimes literally, in an old Moby Dick. Even the way that the store was laid out and the overstuffed bookshelves that were kind of not at right angles, I was like, someone has done this. Tara: [07:46] Yeah. Sarah: [07:47] For a living, I get it. Tara: [07:49] Normally, I am not a big fan of a prestige drama dad having a precious daughter to humanize him, but I would say Frances is one of the less annoying ones in her class. What did everyone else think of her relationship with Lee? Patty: [08:00] Yeah, it kind of reminds me of the nice guys. It's rare. I have a very low tolerance for the sort of precocious kid type. But if you do it in the right way, and she's not especially precocious or anything like that, she's just not stupid. She can see what's happening, you know. But she's old, she's a little older, too. Which helps, you know. Thought it was fun. And I, you know, was concerned that when uh when someone showed up at the bookstore in the second episode, you know, it's kind of like, okay, wow, I actually give a shit about you know, a lot of the time it's like, just whatever, kidnap them already, you know. Tara: [08:29] Yeah. Sarah: [08:30] Mm-hmm. Yeah. Patty: [08:32] We're going to do that, fine. Let's use the device. Yeah, there's a whole that whole crew, like that, like this weird, desolate kind of row of shops, you know, kind of They've got like, you know, I mean, obviously making Blair amazing, but yeah, it's just, it's just a very, it is a very warm little place there, even though it's like a bunch of, you know, sleaze balls, basically. Tara: [08:49] Yeah, yes. I was going to ask you about that too, because this is a remote Repository of that guy actors, in addition to Megan Blair. And then Josh Fadem is also, he owns the record store on that strip, the guy, one of the guys from Better Call Sol from the film crew. Patty: [09:04] Oh, you know, yeah, I didn't even I actually didn't even clock him. Tara: [09:04] But there's. Patty: [09:07] I guess I didn't was looking down or something. Tara: [09:09] Yeah. Patty: [09:09] I know he wasn't on for that much time, but yeah, okay, sure. Tara: [09:11] He's not. Yes, he's not. But there's also Keith David, Dale Dickey, Tim Blake Nelson, Tracy Letts. That's just going in IMDb order because there's. So many more. Was there one? Hey, it's that guy you were especially happy to see a go-around the horn, Dave. Dave: [09:25] I did actually clock the guy from Better Call us all, which was a tiny triumph for me because you know I have actor face blindness. Tara: [09:32] Yeah. Dave: [09:32] I'm always happy to see Keith David in something. Tara: [09:34] Mm-hmm. Dave: [09:35] He's been in so much lately. This guy is just working. He's just like finishes, he clocks off this show, and he gets in his car, and he's driving over to Duster, and he's doing that. Tara: [09:43] Ghost one state over, yeah. Dave: [09:45] Yeah, he's just like always working, and I'm happy for it. So I think that would be mine. Tara: [09:49] Mhm. Dave: [09:50] I love my saw some keep dated. Tara: [09:51] Patty Yep. Patty: [09:52] I'm really enjoying the Johnny Pemberton kind of dirt bag. Transition over the over the years from like the first thing I saw him in was like I think it was in the loop where he was playing like a White House aide or something I don't remember anything before that, but I'm sure he was around. Dave: [09:57] Yeah. Tara: [09:58] Mhm. Oh, yeah, yeah. Dave: [10:02] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Patty: [10:07] But just going from that to now this and it being you know, it's as he gets older, it just becomes more you know, it's not losing any credibility. Dave: [10:12] Yeah, continuing his uh fallout, yeah. Patty: [10:14] So Right, exactly. Tara: [10:16] Oh, yeah, right. Dave: [10:17] Mm-hmm. Patty: [10:18] Yep, yep. Sarah: [10:18] Tara, would you like to bet yourself who I'm going to say? Tracy Letts. Tara: [10:22] There he is, who I didn't even recognize at first with a beard. Sarah: [10:26] I know the casting was heavily Tulsa and Oklahomans natives, so I thought that was. Great to see him, and of course, you know, after Homeland, like it's really not a huge jump for him to be one of those like richies in a half-zip vest, just like doing his thing. Tara: [10:43] Yeah. Sarah: [10:46] I mean, I always love him so. Tara: [10:47] I'll say Michael Hitchcock appears in the first episode and then he comes back several more times and he's great. He's like a sort of Frenemy antique dealer to Lee. They have a great relationship. Patty: [10:58] Oh, yeah. Tara: [10:59] He's good. I was in for basically everything the show is doing, except trying to make truth story and half. Sarah: [11:04] Uh yeah. Tara: [11:04] And Sarah already brought it up. Was I the only one bummed out by this term? And it did seem like after the pilot, they didn't have him say it that much anymore. But anyone else? Sarah: [11:13] I felt like the show knew that it was corny. Dave: [11:16] Yeah, yeah. Sarah: [11:17] So, like, I didn't love it either, but I was also, I felt like the show also didn't love it. It was just something that this guy would do. Dave: [11:23] Yeah, I think it's part of the white guy who cares comments. Patty: [11:24] Right. Tara: [11:26] Sure. Patty: [11:27] Right. Dave: [11:27] Yeah. Sarah: [11:27] Yeah. Patty: [11:28] He's corny. Right. So that's exactly. Tara: [11:29] Mm-hmm. Dave: [11:29] Yeah. Patty: [11:30] At least in this in that mode, he's corny. Sarah: [11:30] Yeah. Patty: [11:32] So, yeah, exactly. Tara: [11:33] Yeah. Well, the lowdown, good show. I'm gonna also link in the show notes to a profile of Sterling Harjo from the LA Times a few weeks ago that was really good and digs into his past as a journalist and the Lee Raybon mode and, you know, the person that he's modelled on and all that stuff. It's really well done. Dave: [11:48] Just one last thing, a moment that I enjoyed because it's sort of a pet peeve of mine, how TV and movie writers can't let it go. There's a moment where the Keith David character calls out Lee, the Ethan Hawk character, for being the type that probably has a red yarn conspiracy wall. And sure enough, he actually does. Tara: [12:05] He does. Dave: [12:07] And I was like. Tara: [12:08] Mm-hmm. Dave: [12:08] Thank you. You're halfway there. Now, next time, don't do the wall at all. Clip: [12:17] Got a lot of shows. It's a great time for shows. Dave: [12:21] It is time to go around the dial talking about what we've watched on T V recently, not necessarily recent T V, but let's find out Tara Arellano first up. Tara: [12:30] Yes, I'm talking about Caleb Heron, model comedian. I talked about it either here or on Patreon when it was announced. It's his new stand-up special on HBO Max. You may have seen him acting in Sweethearts or I Used to Be Funny or listened to his podcast So True. Model Comedian is his first full-length special. And rather than go on about it at length, here's a clip. Clip: [12:49] When I was 15, I asked for a business suit. He had no business to speak of. I wanted one, and we were so broke. Like, I grew up very poor. And my mom was a single parent. She raised my brother and I by herself and worked three jobs while putting herself through school. Total. Total. But, you know, that's enough. It's my show. And if she wants applause, she should hit an open mic. You know what I mean? Own your craft, baby girl. I don't know what to tell you. No, but she's the best. And she, you know, they're expensive. And so when I asked for this suit, she was like. hey, you know, they're just kind of expensive and I'm wondering why you need if you could just tell me why you need one. And I was like, you stupid bitch. Sorry, I'm bigger than this small town. Like, leave me alone. Go back to one of your jobs. Damn. Tara: [13:43] So it's really good. Sarah: [13:44] Well, It's so good. Tara: [13:44] The special goes places, there's more bits about his childhood and his family. There's bits about politics, not much. There is a bit where he involves the crowd in a limited way, but it's not doing crowd work. He invites them to insult him as part of a role-playing scene that they're doing, and then he critiques whether they were convincing. His closer is about a trip to a concentration camp when he was traveling in Europe. I know it sounds crazy to say. It's so funny considering. And if you missed it when it premiered on Friday night, it is. Streaming on HBO Max, and I recommend it. You can also read my review of that at Cracked. And I'm also going to give a shout-out to our friend Alan Seppenwell, who was laid off from Rolling Stone last week. Those Fuckers. They lost one subscriber that day. I'll tell you that. But you can subscribe to Alan's paid newsletter. It's alanseppenwalt. ghost. io, but we'll also link it in the show notes and support Alan because he's great. Dave: [14:38] All right, Patty, what do you got for us? Patty: [14:39] There's a program called The Great Pottery Throwdown. It's basically bake off, but with pots. And instead of a guy who you get a handshake when you do a good job, it's a guy, a big hulking man, who cries when you do a good job. Dave: [14:46] Right. Tara: [14:53] It's my favorite detail. Dave: [14:54] Wow. Sarah: [14:54] I love him. Patty: [14:54] And it's and it's way less predictable too, because it'll be like a little tiny thing. It won't even necessarily be someone who did a good job, but they did like a good little like painting on the side of a pot that exploded or something. It's like being in a sous vide. It's very relaxing. Nothing bad ever really happens. Everyone is very supportive of one another. It's like bake off, but it's like pots. So, which are fun. And the reason I bring it up now is that they're all on the Roku channel. Up through, I think, the last season. So you can just go watch them all, which before that, they started. I found them on HBO during lockdown. I remember they were on Max. Sarah: [15:28] Me too. Patty: [15:28] And then. Sarah: [15:29] Yep. Patty: [15:29] And then only the first two were three, and then they stopped. Dave: [15:32] Right. Patty: [15:32] And then that's when I got into the whole VPN stuff. Dave: [15:35] So if somebody watches Great British Bake Off Say, somebody in our house who's me, and really just watches it to be as mean as possible to everybody on the show. Will this person find value in the great pottery throwdown? Patty: [15:51] They are interesting. Dave: [15:52] I don't wish them ill will, but I want to be mean to them in the safety of my own house. Patty: [15:54] Sure. Tara: [15:57] Well, that's misleading. You also enjoyed the gentle comedy. Sarah: [16:01] It's a similar vibe, and you can also Be mean to the producers, like at some point in the early seasons, they are asked to make a toilet, so it doesn't go well. Patty: [16:12] That's true. Tara: [16:12] Huh. Patty: [16:13] It's got to be a working toilet. There was one I remember there was only one contestant. Who likes basically kept getting saved? I don't know why. I forget which, I think it was in the second series, maybe. That was the only person that my wife and I really had any real like enmity towards. It was like, oh, come on, she's just gonna blow it again. She's not following the brief. Why are you saving her just because, you know, all that kind of stuff? Tara: [16:34] Mhm. Patty: [16:34] And yeah, surprise, she didn't time herself well and she ran out of time again. Tara: [16:38] You hate to see it. Patty: [16:38] Yeah. Dave: [16:39] So is the kiln like the freezer, they never have enough time to heat their stuff instead of freezing their stuff? Do they come out and it's all soggy and the pot just like Okay, all right. Patty: [16:48] Well, the big risk in this show is that shit just blows up in the kiln. Like, you really you basically like can't predict If you have like a if there's like a little bubble or something, or like there's some like weak spot or whatever, it can just blow and you don't know until they open it up, obviously. Dave: [16:55] Should have led with that. Yeah. Nice. Sarah: [17:05] Yeah, and then sometimes it's like just a heap of rubble, basically, and that's, I don't know, kind of satisfying for the mean-spirited. Patty: [17:05] So Yeah. Dave: [17:11] Yeah. Patty: [17:12] Yeah. But you can tell when somebody is like, usually when somebody's pushing it, then something bad is likely to happen. That's an element of danger that isn't really present in bake-off, I suppose. Dave: [17:23] Very few injuries. Yeah. Nice. Patty, you're a fellow podcaster and Internet celebrity. Where can people find more about you? Patty: [17:32] They can find me on the podcast What a time to be live is the show. That's me and uh it's uh Eli Udin, Kath Barbadoro. It is uh the least topical topical news podcast. I never really have a good pitch for what it is, but uh Oh, sure. Tara: [17:47] Well, Eli was just here, so yes, now two of two of the the three have made it. Patty: [17:50] Okay. So we're both so good at self-promoting, too. So I'm sure he did equally as tight a plug as I'm doing right now. So definitely check that out. Dave: [18:00] All right, links in the show notes. Sarah Debundang, what have you been watching? Sarah: [18:05] I have been watching Linley, which I it's different variations on like Linleep the new class, Linleep Babies, Lindley's Strange New Worlds. I don't know who asked for an Inspector Linley reboot. Even I, the only person under the age of 90 who has watched the original, would I would not have asked for it either, especially since a big part of the fun of watching the old ones is like seeing Mr. Bates from Downton show up as an abusive red-herring brother-in-law. But if you did enjoy the old school Lindleys, my fellow great-grandparents, you will like this one fine because aside from the casting, they really have not changed anything. Makes sense. The franchise is based on a book series, the author is an executive producer again, and if you liked the overall framework of the auths iteration, which in a nutshell is that Thomas Linley, a titled Toph of some sort, is paired with the decidedly less posh Barbara Havers and her indifferent attitude towards both personal style and interpersonal niceties. At first they hate each other, but they come to appreciate each other, blah, blah, blah. This Lindley is played by Leo Souter of Vikings Valhalla. The New Havers is Sophia Barclay. No word on whether the notorious and hilarious cavalcade of different actresses playing Helen will pertain. In the new series, but you will recognize the pair's shit-stirring captain. Daniel Mays just played the constable in Thursday Murder Club. and you will recognize the overly complicated and criminal intentishly drawn out nature of the cases which require our heroes to truck back and forth to a Crumbling Mance crime scene, like four times a day over the course of weeks. The better to argue in Lindley's Vintage Bristol 410. Yes, that's back as well. and let various suspects stand around drawing rooms glaring instead of, I dunno, getting rid of the evidence Lindley and Havers aren't going to realize is at the heart of the thing. Until the fourth act, a tale of Nige and Pippa. Told by an idiot signifying nothing. Anyway, it is on Britbox currently, but I wouldn't bother signing up for anything. It surely will come to PBS's Masterpiece early next year. And if you want to remind yourself about how satisfyingly silly the old ones are, they are on HBO Max for some reason. Please enjoy Nathaniel Parker's hilarable page boy. And at that time, you will have a solid Sunday night watch with the aging parents suggestion up your sleeve from both timelines. My suggestion/slash plug is once again for PBS. I suspect that some of you may recently have canceled your Disney Sphere streaming services, and if you would like to To put that money to good or better use. The ExtraHot Great Mutual Aid Vault is happy to have you, and you can email me for more info on that. Bunting at TomainoNation. com, but hopping on a PBS passport membership at your local station is also a great return on investment. decades of archives, science shows, cooking shows, and of course, all those masterpiece mysteries and Bob Ross. Link is in the show notes. Dave: [21:22] All right, here's what's coming up on the Extra Hot Great Cinematic Universe. This Friday on Extra, Extra Hot, Great, we're going to be talking about season five of Slow Horses. Tara: [21:30] Woo! Dave: [21:31] That is available to club members. If you're not a club member, you can sign up at extrahawkgreat. com/slash club and then come back right here next week on EHG Prime. Kim Reed is back. We're going to be talking about Chad Powers. The only way you can say that is that way. Chad Powers. It is time for the extra hot great cannon presenting this week. It's Tara. Tara: [21:57] Hello, let's return to the unnamed city and visit the unnamed park so that I can tell you why regular show season 7, episode 11, deserves to be inducted into the canon. Number one, the premise is painfully relatable. Clip one. Clip: [22:13] Aw, yeah! It's Friday night, which means this is the most amount of time before we have to go back to work again. And what better way to celebrate than by watching back-to-back movie marathons? Who brought this spaghetti to the potluck? Watch out, lady! It's a boom! Ha! Ah, Detective Doralis. I see you already met your new partner, Duncan McCready. New partner? But he's Scottish. You got a problem with that? We'll be back for the rest of our Morales and Macready marathon after this. All night it, all night, all night it. Tara: [22:50] Mordecai and Rigby are so excited for their marathon that they do, in fact, pull an all-nighter watching it, then sleep all day Saturday, waking up at night as the marathon resumes or continues. They repeat the same routine, apparently losing track of how many days are in a typical weekend, and then clip two. Clip: [23:07] I really like the part with the bagpipe gun. Yeah, I'm really happy with my life choices right now, but I definitely want to go to sleep. Yeah! That trampoline's calling my name. Looks like some guys I know are excited for the Monday morning meeting. What? Monday! Tara: [23:30] Making irresponsible choices at night that you will regret in the morning isn't a new subject for comedy. Jerry Seinfeld's bit on night guy versus morning guy has to be at least 30 years old at this point. But for those of us who aren't spending our weekend nights out clubbing or raging or whatever cool people do, the streaming era has only made a fuck-up like Mordecai and Rigby's easier to make. I've talked about this on the podcast before, but when the Devil's Plan came back and we had let a few episodes stack up, there were many Saturday nights where we realized we had stayed up until 5 a. watching just one more and a few weeknights. Where we were probably up past two doing that. This opening segment, in my opinion, perfectly captures both the euphoria of settling in for hours of TV watching and the crashing panic when you realize how you've just ruined your own life doing it. Number two, its portrayal of insomnia is painfully yet hilariously real. Clip three. Clip: [24:19] Mordecai and Rigby, I want all the leaves raked and bagged by the end of the day. Rake the bags and put them in the leaves. You got it. I think you get the idea. I'll check back in later. Dude, most of my body's already asleep. I know. Our sleep schedule's all out of whack. But I think we just have to stay awake all day. That way we'll fall asleep like normal tonight. I mean. Okay. No matter what, we're gonna stay up all day What are you doing? What time is it? Six o'clock! The sun's already down, and you've raked no leaves! Tara: [24:59] A show that is mainly for kids and tweens is not going to portray Mordecai and Rigby trying to regulate their sleep with sleeping pills or weed gummies, which is bad luck for the characters. who end up lying in, respectively, their bed and laundry covered mini trampoline, extremely awake and getting increasingly stressed out about it. Clip four. Clip: [25:17] If you ever look at the ceiling and start to see the stars Life's really about the little moments, you know? I bet if we watch something really boring on TV, we'll fall asleep. Yes! I hate the little moments! Oh, hello, I'm Dr. Sheldon Weatherberry. Welcome to my thrilling 24-part series on the art and upkeep of museum level bug pinning. Perfect. Where are you going, you slippery monarch? I finally feel like I can get some rest. Yeah, let's go to bed Hey Gary! Tara: [26:03] Because the sun is up. Coffee of a possibly pharmaceutical grade gets Rigby and Mordecai through their workday, but leaves them so awake at 3:03 a. , Rigby can't even close his eyes. This probably isn't something the kids and tweens the show is mainly for have had to deal with personally, but I appreciate that this episode is preparing them for a tortuous future, being unable to fall asleep and hating and fearing their alarms, because that's what adulthood is. Number three, Skips is, as usual, the show's stealth best character, even when he's just a bridge to the intra-dimensional weirdo of the week. Desperate to break the cycle of disordered sleep, Mordecai and Rigby wake Skips up to help them. Skips takes them to see Gary, Messenger for the Guardians of Eternal Youth, Clip Five. Clip: [26:49] Mordecai and Rigby need to go to the Sentinels of Sleep. But I need my rest. Do you think I can look this good without a full night's sleep? Yes. That's the correct answer. Tara: [26:59] Just about every episode of Regular Show has its climax, either in a fantastical realm or with a visitor from a fantastical realm. In this case it's the former as Gary brings them to Drifter's Port. Rigby immediately makes an enemy of Coco the Night Owl by laughing at his name, but Coco is still willing to let the guys try to solve their problem in the obvious way. Clip Six. Clip: [27:18] You've got to race to catch the sun. If you catch it before it sets, you go back to being a morning person. So we just gotta catch the sun? Yeah, that's right. But if you fail, you'll be stuck as A night owl forever. I don't know. Seems deceptively simple. Tara: [27:36] The vehicles everyone has to use on the sun chasing course are motorcycles or Sleep cycles, if you will, and I say everyone because Mordecai and Rigby aren't the only ones trying to fix their sleep patterns. Clip seven. Clip: [27:47] There's already a guy out there. This is it. Finally gonna get my life together. No more Mr. Night Guy. Oh no! There's no way out here. Does he have to be a night owl now? Oh, no, he's just dead. Tara: [28:12] After the guys take their own turn on the very video gamish race course, we see them leap into the sun and then clip eight. Clip: [28:20] Ugh, I can't wait to go to sleep. Hey, look. Stay tuned for a marathon of Morales and McCready Origins. All nighter, all-nighter. Go to sleep! Tara: [28:35] There it is. The guys aren't going to listen or learn anything from this ordeal, but it's important that Skip's tried, even though it's not the TV's fault. Don't punch a TV. As a lifelong night owl with horrible sleep hygiene, this episode reflected my experience. But I hope those of you who always go to bed at a reasonable hour have no trouble falling asleep and awaken refreshed and cheerful, and good for you. We'll also agree this episode should be inducted into the canon. Dave: [29:00] Thank you, Tara. Patty, why don't you take first crack at this? Patty: [29:04] I hadn't seen this one in a while. I watched all the way through, but it's been a long time. Quintessential episode. It doesn't get quite as big as some of them do, but it sort of hits all the beats that I love. My favorite thing you didn't mention was the guy who delivered the coffee just like blows up his van when he gets there. Tara: [29:20] Yes. Patty: [29:21] And there's just and he just kind of hands them the coffee and then says, Please call an ambulance. Just a very strange one-off guy. Tara: [29:26] Yes. Patty: [29:29] Not clear why the coffee is related to him blowing up his van. Just, you know, so. That's the stuff I love. You know, I could watch this show forever. Dave: [29:35] Yeah, yeah. Patty: [29:38] I'm glad there are like a million episodes because they're all very entertaining. Dave: [29:41] Yeah. I also like the giant coffee cups he provides, which are half the size of the characters. Patty: [29:44] Yes. Yes. Tara: [29:46] Yeah. Patty: [29:47] It's always a treat, and there's always such such weird little lore going on. Dave: [29:50] Yeah. Patty: [29:50] Like, who are these bird guys? Dave: [29:52] Yeah, it's it's it's a story about two guys who work in a park, often interrupted by fever dreams. It feels like that's the type of show you're watching. Tara: [30:01] Mm-hmm. Dave: [30:01] You know, it's the Bit 80 sitcom, but then it's like, what the fuck is going on now? Patty: [30:01] Yeah. Dave: [30:04] And those moments are always great. Patty: [30:07] Yeah. Dave: [30:07] Yeah. Patty: [30:07] Um so yeah, I I I vote yes. Dave: [30:09] Okay, all right. Patty: [30:10] I I said I said put it in. Dave: [30:11] Server debunting, what say you? Sarah: [30:13] I love the attention to detail, but it doesn't get Too preoccupied with it, like just the sort of ongoing snippets of the promotions for Morales and McCready. For the sake of our son, and then like he's a zombie at Loch Mess, and like just the little seeds that they plant, that it's like, what would that movie even be, but you do understand why they were staying up all night. Police Call an Ambulance was very funny. I'm not sure in a show that is ostensibly For kids, that the meth implication there is 100% what they wanted to do, but on the other hand, maybe it is. Tara: [30:53] It's just coffee officially. Dave: [30:53] Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, absolutely was. Sarah: [30:58] Sheldon Weatherberry is just like, Where are you going, you slippery monarch? Like, just so, so good. And then it's the Joker. From T V's Batman et al. Just the little touches, like they get to the bar and it's like, ooh, that classic sort of film and T V scene, whether or not it's a Place full of like sketchy people where they're not supposed to be, and then behind the bar, clown comes out of a snake's mouth, and you're like, wow, like that's the most fever dreamy thing that could happen. So it happened. And, you know, like just the little there's no air out here. Like the timing and pacing of it is really Perfect. I haven't watched much of the show, but this was really hilarious and also relatable as someone who Keeps lately staying up way past my bedtime watching Strange New Worlds episodes that are like kind of not always worth it. Tara: [31:58] Yeah. Sarah: [31:58] But we're like chasing the high of everyone being a Vulcan. So I don't know. Excellent presentation. And I totally get why this was on the list. Well played. Tara: [32:10] Added by me. I'll also say for anyone who doesn't know, we talked about the secret horrors episode of Close Enough a few weeks ago, and that is also by the same creator, JJ Quintel. Patty: [32:19] Does he have a new show coming? I I think so, right? Wasn't there some discussion of something kicking around? Dave: [32:24] I was going to ask Patty if you watch close enough as well, because that yeah. Patty: [32:27] I I did I did I didn't get through the last season uh before they uh yanked it off unceremoniously. Dave: [32:31] Oh, right, it's gone. That's right. I forgot. Patty: [32:33] Yeah. Tara: [32:33] I think it's on we found it on Daily Motion, so well Yeah. Dave: [32:33] Yeah, those crumb bumps. Right. Patty: [32:36] Okay. Dave: [32:36] Good old daily motion. Watch it mirrored, reversed, and stretched. Daily motion's got you. Sarah: [32:42] With Bulgarian subtitles. Dave: [32:45] I really like regular show. I feel like it's a gateway to like stoner comedy. It's like child's first stoner comedy. I gotta say though, this episode, even though it starts really, really well for me with the McCready stuff, absolutely love how much of that they give you and how it sort of accelerates through. That franchise, little blips that sort of make sense in sort of this like 80s franchise kind of way. But then I find there's like a big lull in the middle of this episode until it gets crazy again at the end when they're in this. Weird Mario Kart meets Tron, meets Fever Dream, Chasing the Sun video game experience. And the one thing nobody's mentioned because of that clip where the first guy, the old guy they're watching, the first guy to try to get through the track, is like dodging obstacles and spikes and stuff like that. And the way he gets knocked off the track is there's Just one guy with a pillow, and the guy hits him with the pillow as he comes by, and he falls off and tumbles through space. Tara: [33:43] Yeah. Dave: [33:45] So, there's a lot here that I like, but I just felt like there was a chunk in the middle. That needed tightening, and I kind of wish that part was tighter. And I feel like there are episodes of Regular Show that does balance that better for me. And this episode follows the formula of Regular Show, which is like. They're in the park, and then something weird shit happens, and now they're in this like fantastical universe, and it's all fucked up. And we love that. It's just the connecting bit in between that I wasn't canon-worthy for me. Tara: [34:14] Before you throw it to the vote, it was announced last summer in 2024 that JG Quintel would be showrunner for an adult television adaptation of Gillian Tamaki's webcomic Super Mutant Magic Academy for Adult Swim. So I think it's could or could not be a going concern still. There is not new news since then. Dave: [34:33] All right, let's put this to the official vote. Patty, what say you, cannon worthy or not? Patty: [34:38] Yeah, I'm saying yeah. You know, it's a fun, you know, I think I already said yeah, so I have to stick with it anyway, but no, I I'm wavering a little bit, I have to say, because there was that lull in the middle, you know, but they're not all, they're not all wall-to-wall. Tara: [34:45] You can change your mind. Patty: [34:52] I don't know. I'm just so fond of these little guys, you know? Dave: [34:54] Yeah. Patty: [34:55] I mean, it's it's We didn't even get the whole I mean, we didn't even get the whole cast. Dave: [34:55] Follow your heart. Follow your heart, Penny. Patty: [34:59] We didn't we know we didn't even get the whole we didn't got no mum no pops really. Dave: [35:00] No pops. Yeah. Patty: [35:02] No, yeah. Dave: [35:03] Yeah. Patty: [35:03] I'm putting them in. Dave: [35:04] All right. Patty: [35:04] Get him in. Dave: [35:04] Very good. Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah: [35:06] I also say yay. Dave: [35:08] All right. I think this episode is very worth your time, but not quite canon worthy for me, put against the rest of the show. Tara: [35:15] I'm just going to say, the last time I pitched a regular show, you also said no. But do I see you trying to pitch your own regular shows? No. Dave: [35:22] Well, maybe if you stop doing it, I sneak one in. Tara: [35:22] Maybe you should. Sarah: [35:25] Maybe a king of queens, Dave. Dave: [35:27] All right. So it doesn't matter what. That's right. What if? What if I did that? Doesn't matter what I think because it's already two to one. So That means that regular show season seven, episode 11, Sleep Cycle, you're hereby inducted into the extra hot gray cannon. Clip: [35:54] Americans love a winner. Yup. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. Dave: [35:59] It is time to discover the winner and loser of the week. Sarah has this week's winner. Sarah: [36:05] Yes, I do. Pete Early and Gerald Shore. Their non-fiction book, Witsec, is getting developed into a series about the origins of the Witness Protection Program. Pete Early is a true crime genre. Titan has written all over the genre. I think this will be pretty interesting. There's definitely, I think, an appetite sort of periodically for Witsek processy shows. And I hope that. It is something like Mindhunter, like on that level of process, but also good characters. Dave: [36:38] And loser of the weak turn. Tara: [36:39] Love is Blind apparently trying to break a record for most sued reality show because they're being sued again. This time is by a past show participant named Stephen Richardson, and he's alleging sleep deprivation, isolation, lack of food, and an excess of alcohol on the show and is trying to. Get other people who have been on the show to join as a class action lawsuit. And I'll just say, because I looked up how many other times the show has been sued, this is the fourth that we know of. I'm going to say an entire show is the subject of a story on MarieClaire. com that has the headline: A Complete Timeline of Lawsuits and Allegations Brought Against Love is Blind. Maybe go back to the drawing board because this is not the kind of show that anyone should probably be making. I'm so happy for all of the very real couples that got married for real and are really in love. Dave: [37:31] Well, speaking about things that get bad coverage in Marie Claire, do you know what time it is? Tara: [37:35] It's getting time. Sarah: [37:36] Gotta be game time. Dave: [37:37] It's game time. All right, this is the fifth game time of the season. The scores currently are Tara has one, Sarah has one, Value Guess with two. Two points. Yes. Today we are playing Never Have I Ever from Amy Allenspock, who earns herself an extra credit. Topic of her choosing, plus a free shirt from our store. You can visit that at throughmethods. com. This one is pretty straightforward. You will get a list of three TV actors where one of the three has not done the activity I will describe. All you need to do is name the actor for one point. That's all the game. You just guess once, you get the point, or you don't. We have 30 questions, but we are on a little bit of a time crunch. So if we cut it a little short, that's why. No seal meals, no equalizer zones today. Let's throw it to Picky to see who is going first. Clip: [38:45] We will start with valued guest. Dave: [38:47] All right, so we're going to go Patty, then Sarah, then Tara. Are we ready to play? Never, have I ever? Tara: [38:54] Yes. Dave: [38:54] All right, we're starting with Patty. Sarah: [38:54] Yeah. Dave: [38:57] Who has not hosted Saturday Night Live more than four times? Is it Candice Bergen, John Hamm, or Woody Harrelson? One of them has not hosted SNL more than four times. Which one of those is it? Patty: [39:18] Candice Bergen Okay Oh, I was oh yeah, I was gonna be wrong either way. Dave: [39:20] Ooh, she has hosted five times, as has Woody Harrelson. The answer here. Clip: [39:25] Like I want to make a rock, 'cause I make a war. Tara: [39:25] Really? I would have thought Woody. Patty: [39:30] Okay. Dave: [39:30] Sarah D. Bunting, who has not made a guest appearance on Law and Order? Sarah: [39:32] Yeah. Clip: [39:32] Like I wanna make a rock, 'cause I'm made of Can't bow, I'm the bar. Tara: [39:37] Oh boy. Dave: [39:38] Is it Hayden Panatier, excuse me, Will Arnett or Tony Shaloub? Sarah: [39:38] No, wow. Tara: [39:45] Can I ask a clarifying question on Sarah's behalf? Dave: [39:48] I don't know if it's the whole franchise or not. Tara: [39:48] This is lo Okay. Clip: [39:49] Cause I'm a cutter. Sarah: [39:50] Okay. Yeah. Uh I believe that it is Shaloub who did not do it. Clip: [39:57] Cause I'm a little bit more of a bad thing. Dave: [39:59] You are correct. Tara: [39:59] Nice. Dave: [40:00] Yes, Tony Shaloub did not. Tara. Tara: [40:02] Yes. Dave: [40:03] Who was not born in California? Elizabeth Moss, Katie Seagal, Nick Offerman was not born in California. Tara: [40:13] Nick Nick Offerman. Dave: [40:16] You are correct. Back to Patty. Who has not played a member of the clergy on television? Not played a member of the clergy. Is it Natasha Leone? Betty Gilpin or Rob Lowe. One of them has not played a clergyperson on T V. Tara: [40:34] Crips, and two of them have is the crazy part. Dave: [40:35] But which one? Patty: [40:36] Hmm Yeah, um Yes. Sarah: [40:39] Yeah Mhm. Dave: [40:41] Well, I could think of one very easily. Patty: [40:44] Uh I'm gonna I'm gonna have to trick myself and say Rob Lowe here. Oh my God. Dave: [40:50] Incorrect. Gilpin on Mrs. Davis. Patty: [40:52] Sure. Tara: [40:53] Right. Dave: [40:53] Rob Lowe, Father Jude Sutton on You, Me and the Apocalypse. Tara: [40:57] Sure. Clip: [40:57] Is a big computer. Dave: [40:57] Remember that? Sarah: [40:57] Oh, sure. Dave: [40:59] Leaving Natasha Leone out in the cold. Sarah: [41:00] Jesus. Patty: [41:02] I just figured she had some weird things at some point. Tara: [41:02] Huh. Dave: [41:04] It seems like she should. Tara: [41:05] It seems like she was on Transparent as a Rabbi or something. Dave: [41:08] Yeah. Clip: [41:08] I won't go like I'm a dance or a mouse or I can't make Like I wanna take a rock to make a move like I'm a rock to make It's a big up to the big up to the Cause I'm back on the moon. Dave: [41:08] Well, she was just in what was it? Fantastic Four. She wasn't a clergy person, but she was involved with the synagogue there. Tara: [41:13] No, she was involved in yeah. Dave: [41:15] Yeah. Sarah D. Bunting, who has not won a Prime Time Emmy for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series? Has not? Is it Mandy Patinkin, the Patink, Ed Asner? or Timothy off of his pants has not won a primetime Emmy for outstanding lead actor in a drama series. Sarah: [41:38] In a drama series, there's arguments for and against all of these. Dave: [41:40] Yes. Sarah: [41:46] So I am going To say that it is Patink Stank who didn't No, I don't know why he thought he won. Dave: [41:56] Incorrect. Timothy Alphan has been nominated but has not won. Tara: [42:00] I would have thought Dave only put it in so he could play the clip. Dave: [42:05] Tara, who has not made a guest appearance on Arrested Development? Tara: [42:06] Yeah. Mm Mm. Dave: [42:11] Brian Baum Gardner. Baumgardner. Tara: [42:14] Yeah. Dave: [42:15] John Krasinski, Mindy Kalinga, and Which one is Bomb Gardener Gardener? Tara: [42:16] Right. I mean, anything could be happening in those last two seasons, honestly. Sarah: [42:24] We'd never know. Tara: [42:25] God, I'm gonna Kevin. Dave: [42:29] Oh, okay. Tara: [42:29] The chili spiller. Dave: [42:31] Yeah, got it. Tara: [42:32] Yep. He will tell you about it on cameo. He's very successful there. Okay, I'm going to say, I'm going to say Krasinski. Fucking money. Dave: [42:42] Killing not on a restaurant development. All right, back to Patty. Sarah: [42:46] Damn. Dave: [42:46] Who is not, Patty, a published author? Lauren Graham, James Spader, Hilary Duff, one of them not a published author. Patty: [42:57] Yeah, of course, they are the author of these books. That's a key part of that. They're slaving over every page. Okay, so it's yeah. Dave: [43:07] Graham Spader Duff, my favorite law firm. Clip: [43:13] I don't know. Patty: [43:14] Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go spader Yeah, I would Some kind of Redding r around the Reddington era, maybe, there would have been something. Clip: [43:14] I don't know. Dave: [43:17] You're correct. Tara: [43:18] Nice Mhm. Dave: [43:18] James Pater, nicely done. Clip: [43:18] Cause I'm back on Can you book out the cable? Dave: [43:20] He's too good for it. People don't deserve to know more about James Pater. Sarah: [43:23] I would have guessed that he had like a whole series of crime novels and Mm-hmm. Tara: [43:28] I mean, I wouldn't surprise me, James Spaderson. Dave: [43:29] Oh, it's like James James Patterson it up, yeah. Clip: [43:30] I won't let it go. Dave: [43:32] Uh-huh. Tara: [43:37] Mm-hmm. Clip: [43:37] I'm on the light. Patty: [43:38] But I mean, Hilary Duff, I figured there was some, you know, kids' book and then uh yeah, and then I know there's a Gilmore Girls book. Clip: [43:39] I'm a dummy rock. Tara: [43:41] When she was a kid, yeah. Patty: [43:44] I assume that's what that is. Tara: [43:45] I think she's written a novel and a memoir, Lauren Graham. Patty: [43:46] So, yeah. Dave: [43:48] I just assume if it's a celebrity and they've published something, it's a kid's book. That's my first thought. Clip: [43:53] Like I wouldn't rack up a rock to make True, and the bar is a moment. Sarah: [43:55] Cookbook. Dave: [43:55] Sarah D. Bunting, who does not have a twin in real life? Sarah: [43:57] Yeah. Yo. Dave: [44:00] Terry Cruz, Ramy Malik, Laverne Cox does not have a twin in real life. Sarah: [44:07] Oh shit. Well, I know Malik does, which is why we have to call John Ramos his secret triplet, 'cause he actually has a secret twit. Tara: [44:13] It's triplet, yep. Dave: [44:13] Yeah, mhm. Sarah: [44:17] Uh oh, Terry Cruz Ah, right. Clip: [44:18] Cause I'm back on the cut ring. I'm okay. Dave: [44:21] You are correct, Terry Cruz. Tara: [44:23] Laverne Cox's brother played her character in Orange is the New Black pre-transition. Clip: [44:24] I'm a clean. Cause I'm a comic book, brain. I ain't walking. I'm on, like, does it rock a bad? Dave: [44:30] Tara, who was not born outside of the US? Sarah: [44:30] Okay. Tara: [44:31] Yes. Clip: [44:33] Cause I'm a boy, I'm a man. Dave: [44:34] Not born outside of the US. Mila Kunas, Eva Longoria, Rose McGowan. Clip: [44:37] I'm a woman, like I'm a rocket. It'll be a weird Like I want to rock out to make a Is a big old is a big hundred I want to get the light. Tara: [44:43] I'm pretty sure Evelyn Goria was born in Texas, so I'm going to say Rose McGowan. Shit! Dave: [44:49] Evil umbrella Back to Patty. Tara: [44:50] Damn it. Dave: [44:53] Who has not been a judge on BruPaul's Drag Race US? Christian Ritter, Tori Spelling, Lucy Lawless. Which one of those actresses? Tara: [45:03] Lucy Lawless, not loosely lawless. Sarah: [45:03] Loosely Oh, they had Tori on that shit. Dave: [45:05] Lucly Lawless. Patty: [45:05] Lucly Lawless. Dave: [45:07] I was just describing her demeanor. Tara: [45:09] Uh-huh. Dave: [45:09] She's loosely lawless. Tara: [45:10] Yeah. Dave: [45:11] Lucy Lawless. Patty: [45:13] I don't think I've ever seen a minute of this show, so this is challenging for me. I'm doing a lot of projecting what I think the show is like onto these people. Okay, who was the m uh Lucy Lawless, Kristen Ritter? Dave: [45:23] You've uh Kristen Britter, Tory spelling, loosely lawless. Patty: [45:24] Who was the third? Tour spelling. Loosely lawless. I'm going to go loosely lawless. Dave: [45:33] Oh, no. Kristen Ritter, not been a judge. Tara: [45:36] That's surprising. Patty: [45:36] Really? Dave: [45:37] Yeah. Yep. Patty: [45:37] Yeah. Tara: [45:39] Remember we watched it 'cause she it was her and Jenny Garth. They did like a 90210 acting challenge. Sarah: [45:43] Oh, yeah, we did. I blocked it out. Patty: [45:45] That seemed obvious to me. Tara: [45:46] Mm-hmm. Patty: [45:46] I mean, she'll do it, you know, if you call her, I assume. Tara: [45:48] Oh, there's nothing she won't do. Sarah: [45:50] Oh, yeah, she'll do it even if you don't call her. She'll just show up at the stage door. Dave: [45:54] Sarah D. Bunting, who has not played more than one character on the same show has not done that? Sarah: [45:56] Yeah. Dave: [46:00] Is it Jerry Orbach, Peter Capaldi, or Richard Kind? Sarah: [46:07] Well, we can rule out Orbach, and then it's kind of a coin flip. I'm gonna say Capaldi. Dave: [46:12] Ooh, Richard Kind. Sarah: [46:15] No! Clip: [46:16] Rock and make a little bit of a bunch of people. Dave: [46:17] Tara, who has not done an ad for Snickers? Shelly Long, Roseanne Barr, Betty White. You're correct. Sarah: [46:30] Wow, nice. Dave: [46:30] Back to Patty. Who has not had a song on the Billboard Top 10? Billboard Top 10. Is it? Donald Glover, Raven Simone, Don Johnson Which one has not had a song in the Billboard top ten? Clip: [46:40] Cause I make a whole breakout. Tara: [46:43] Oh, that's a tough one. Clip: [46:44] I want to go out and make a turn out of it. Sarah: [46:45] Oh heartbeat Oh, good old fart bleat. Tara: [46:46] Fuck. Dave: [46:50] Glover Raven Simone Johnson. Patty: [46:53] I feel like I'm the exact age to have totally missed whatever Raven Simone had going on, too. Like, whatever the music part of it was. Dave: [47:00] I could tell you the title if you want. Patty: [47:00] Like, I'm. Dave: [47:02] It's called Strut. Clip: [47:02] Is a big up to the book and the ball. Patty: [47:02] Sure. Okay. Dave: [47:04] I got This is America, Strut, and Heartbeat in Play on this question. Tara: [47:09] Yeah, you're definitely too young to have been around in the Don Johnson recording artist era. Clip: [47:10] It's a big up to the boat and the bar Like I would make a move. Dave: [47:12] Listen to the harp be Snow Jack Wagner Glover 2019. Sarah: [47:13] Oh my god. Patty: [47:14] I'm aware that it exists. Sarah: [47:15] Thank God for that. Tara: [47:16] Yeah. Patty: [47:16] Yeah. Uh sheesh. Um Yeah, the man. Tara: [47:19] He's no Jack Wagner, I'll say that. Sarah: [47:21] Yeah, nope. Patty: [47:22] I'm thinking of Raymond Simone. Is this like Dr. Doolittle era? Clip: [47:26] Cook a book and the ball couldn't make up I want it a rock to make a move. Patty: [47:26] Like she's like that old, or was it when she was like a kid? I don't know. Man. Yeah. Sure. Dave: [47:33] Raven Simone, 2006. Don Johnson, 86. Those are the years which they charted, but only one failed to make the top ten. Patty: [47:38] Yeah. I am going to say, and I'm probably going to be wrong: Raven Simone. Dave: [47:48] I regret to inform you you are correct. Clip: [47:48] Cut them up, and the woman cut them up. Dave: [47:52] This is America hit number one, strut fifty-three. Tara: [47:55] Hmm. Dave: [47:56] Heartbeat five got to five. Tara: [47:57] Wow. Patty: [47:58] Okay. Sarah: [47:58] Oh my god, Billboard. Patty: [47:59] Wow. Okay. Dave: [48:00] Yep. Sarah: [48:00] What are you doing? Don't encourage him. Clip: [48:02] It's a big old kill. Patty: [48:02] It's good that I didn't forget, you know, it just was never it was not a hit. Tara: [48:04] Mm-hmm. Sarah: [48:05] This is how you end up with the return of Bruno. Dave: [48:06] Yeah. This is how we save the culture. Patty: [48:07] Um I mean, what am I supposed to do without my cell phone? Clip: [48:09] It's a big comfortable. Patty: [48:12] That's the Raymond Simone quote that I think of the most. Clip: [48:15] Like I want to make a rock and make a rocket to make Come to the book, we'll come on. Dave: [48:16] Who was not Sarah D. Bunting over thirty when their episode of Doctor Who first aired? Kudi Gatwa, David Tennant, Matt Smith, who was not over 30 when their episode of Doctor Who first aired, or guess when their first episode of Doctor Who aired, I think. Sarah: [48:34] Why do I get the Doctor Who question? Isn't there a Scrubs question you'd like to give me instead? Dave: [48:40] Well You are correct. Sarah: [48:41] I will guess Matt Smith. Dave: [48:45] He was 28 in his debut. Tara: [48:45] Nice. That's not what I would have said. Good job. Dave: [48:48] Yep. And 31 and 34 for the others. All right. This will take us into our score break. It is for Tara who has not made a guest appearance on ER. Tara: [48:57] Oh, no, yes. Dave: [48:58] Cynthia Nixon, Kim Cattrall, Kristen Davis. Clip: [49:02] There's a big old cruelty. Tara: [49:02] Oh boy Kim Control Wow. Sarah: [49:04] No wow. Clip: [49:09] There's a big of a movement. Dave: [49:14] You are correct. Sarah: [49:15] Wow, Hmm. Patty: [49:15] Wow. Dave: [49:16] Amazing. Nicely done. All right. That is our halfway mark. We need scores, please. Tara: [49:22] It's so tight. This game is really hard. Patty has two points. Sarah and I are tied with three. Dave: [49:26] All right, let's get back to it. Back to Patty's question. Who was not Patty not born in London? Is it Rose Leslie, Coos Jumbo, Delroy Lindo, not born in London? Patty: [49:43] Uh Rose Leslie Yeah. Dave: [49:47] You are correct. Tara: [49:47] Nice She has terrible politics probably. Dave: [49:48] Where do you think she was born? Patty: [49:49] Uh somewhere more rural or something. Her dad's a like a oh, oh, she's Scottish. Dave: [49:53] Scotland, so you're probably right. Yep. Patty: [49:55] Okay, there you go. Dave: [49:56] Yeah, nicely done. Patty: [49:58] I was going like her dad's like a big Tory politician or something. Dave: [50:00] Yeah. Patty: [50:00] So I was like, they're probably not, they're out of the cities because the cities are dangerous. Dave: [50:03] They're at their mansion eating endangered animals. Sarah D. Bunting, who has not earned a master's degree or higher? Not honorary. Those don't count. Sarah: [50:16] Okay. Dave: [50:16] All right. Clip: [50:16] Cause I make all the way. Dave: [50:16] Hill Harper. Ken Jong, Brad Garrett, has not earned a master's degree, honestly. Clip: [50:24] Cause I make all Cut the book break and bar cut the book break and bar Oh, I die, I think, oh, I don't like it. Sarah: [50:26] Garrett Garrett Oh, well, yeah. Dave: [50:27] You are correct. Tara: [50:28] Nice. Dave: [50:29] Tara, who is not a graduate of Juilliard? Tara: [50:30] Yeah. Hm. Dave: [50:34] Is it Kelsey Grammer, Fred Armison, Viola Davis? Tara: [50:40] Fred Armison, Wow, nice. Dave: [50:41] You are correct. Confidently answered. All right, this is question for Patty. Who was not born on a military base? Johnny Galecki. Jerry Ryan January Jones. Which of those Jays not born on a military base? Johnny Jerry January You are correct. Patty: [51:09] January Jones, just going with it. Dave: [51:11] Nicely done Sarah, who does not have a cousin who is also a famous actor? Patty: [51:11] All right. Clip: [51:16] Cause I make a cool Cause I make a lot of money. Dave: [51:19] Is it Billy Porter, Henry Winkler, Melissa McCarthy? Clip: [51:24] Can you book out the ball? Dave: [51:25] One of those does not have a cousin who is also a famous actor. Clip: [51:27] I'm on the candle. Sarah: [51:29] I don't have any idea. Dave: [51:30] Wow, there's some information here I was not aware of, and I'm kind of tickled by it. Sarah: [51:36] I am gonna say Porter. Dave: [51:41] Billy Porter. Porter is your answer? Billy Porter, you are correct. Clip: [51:44] I want to work on that. Sarah: [51:44] Yes. Tara: [51:46] Whoa, nice. Dave: [51:47] Does anybody know the cousins in play here? Tara: [51:49] No. Dave: [51:50] Melissa McCarthy and Jenny McCarthy. Clip: [51:51] I'm a little bit walking. Dave: [51:52] They're cousins. Tara: [51:52] Oh, I think I did know that at one point. Sarah: [51:53] Oh, Jesus, that's right. Dave: [51:54] But get this Richard Belzer and the Fawns are cousins. Tara: [51:58] Shut the fuck up. Sarah: [51:59] Oh fuck, that's right. Tara: [52:00] Really? Dave: [52:00] Yep. Tara: [52:01] That's amazing. Sarah: [52:01] Oh my god. Dave: [52:01] That is great. Tara: [52:02] I love that. Sarah: [52:03] Beltzer, also an author. Dave: [52:06] Tara, who does not have more than two children in real life? Tara: [52:06] Yeah. Hm Mm strong fuck Oh. Dave: [52:11] Is it Jeremy Strong, Kieran Culkin, Brian Cox? Clip: [52:14] I want to see a rocket. Cause I'm a kid. Dave: [52:21] Nope. Clip: [52:21] I want to see a rocket. Dave: [52:22] It is Kieran Culkin. Clip: [52:23] Is a makeup to the book. Dave: [52:23] Jeremy has three kids. Brian Cox, four. Culkin has two. Tara: [52:28] He was going on so much in awards season about like, oh, my kids, my kids, I can't watch movies because of my kids. Clip: [52:30] It's a makeup to the boat. Tara: [52:34] I thought he had like five. Clip: [52:34] I won't let it rock. Tara: [52:36] Turns out he's just a whiner. Dave: [52:38] Patty, do you watch The Simpsons? Patty: [52:40] I do. Dave: [52:41] Do you watch Sesame Street religiously still? Clip: [52:42] I won't let it rock It's a big up to the boat. Patty: [52:44] Sesame Street, not as much. Dave: [52:45] Okay, who has not made a guest appearance on both Sesame Street and The Simpsons? Tara: [52:51] Fuck Smolders No, Kobe, Kobe, not Colby. Dave: [52:52] Is it Allison Hannigan? Clip: [52:53] It's a big up to the book. Dave: [52:55] Colby Smothers. Smalders. Every fucking time. Clip: [52:58] Like I want to take a rock to make a move. Dave: [52:58] Colby Smalters. Smalders. Colby Smalters. Neil Patrick Harris. Patty: [53:05] Okay. Dave: [53:06] How I Met Your Mother Trio of Choice. Clip: [53:06] I want to take a rock to make Cause I make a clean one, I'm a baby. Patty: [53:06] Um I am gonna say Kobe I was like, there must have been some buffy thing at some point where she had like two lines. Tara: [53:14] Wow, that's what I would have said too. Dave: [53:15] No, that's what I would have guessed as well. Allison Hannigan was the answer there. Tara: [53:19] Damn. Patty: [53:24] I was trying to think of anything like anything in The Simpsons, but yeah. Tara: [53:24] Yeah huh. Clip: [53:27] I don't want you to make a clean one, I'm a baby I'm on, like, I'm a big rock. Patty: [53:27] Okay. Dave: [53:27] All right, Sarah, who has not run for office in the United States? George Takei. Oh, my. Judah Friedlander. Jerry Springer has not run for office in the U. Clip: [53:41] I'm a black one, I'm a rock. Dave: [53:42] S. Sarah: [53:43] Okay, um well, Springer was the mayor of Cincy, I think. Clip: [53:45] Cause I make a whole lot of clean Make up to the bow, and I'll be moving to the bow. Sarah: [53:48] So that's Take and Friedlander. Dave: [53:52] He has a hat that says vote for me. Sarah: [53:54] Take A. Dave: [53:56] No, no, it's Freelander. Sarah: [53:58] Oh, okay. Dave: [53:59] Back to Tara. Who did not graduate from Yale? Tara: [54:02] Mm. Me. Dave: [54:03] Jane Krakowski, David Hyde Pierce, David Dukovny. Tara: [54:05] Mm-hmm. Dave: [54:09] He was all of history's greatest acting robots. Tara: [54:11] Yeah, um Jane Krakowski Wow. Dave: [54:16] You are correct. Back to Patty. Who has not appeared on Celebrity Jeopardy? Sam Watterson, Benjamin Bratt, Chris Knoth. Patty: [54:29] Uh two of them have. Okay. Um I just I'm just running and gunning here. Sarah: [54:32] Yeah, that's a lot of info. Patty: [54:39] I I guess I'm gonna go I'm gonna go brat wrong. Dave: [54:43] No. Sarah, I guess. Sarah: [54:46] I think it's nose because he's too busy drinking at night. Dave: [54:49] You are correct. Tara: [54:49] Yeah, I've seen Sam Waterston on Celebrity Jeopardy. Dave: [54:52] Yeah. All right. To Sarah for her full question. Who has not starred on Broadway? Carol Kane, John Ratzenberger, Katie Holmes. Not starred on Broadway. Sarah: [55:06] Hmm Ratzenberger Oh, my God. Clip: [55:07] Cause I may come to the book. I'm a body. Dave: [55:10] Correct. Tara: [55:11] Nice. Dave: [55:11] Nicely done. Back to Tara. Who does not, does not have a sibling in the industry? Clip: [55:15] Cause I make up the turn. I'm a woman. Tara: [55:17] Hmm Mm-hmm. Dave: [55:18] Dan Levy. Clip: [55:20] Like I wanna get a rock 'cause I'm a little bit more. Dave: [55:20] Felicia Rashad, Megan Maloli. Tara: [55:21] Hm Megan Malally I know the other two. Dave: [55:25] Very good. Confidently answered. Clip: [55:28] Like I wanna get a rock 'cause I'm in I want it a rock. Dave: [55:28] R. All right. Tara: [55:30] Sarah Levy and Eugene is Dan Levy's sister, and Debbie Allen is Felicia Rashad's sister. Dave: [55:33] Uh-huh. You are correct. All right, everybody has one last question, so let's get the scores. Tara: [55:40] Okay. Patty has four. Sarah and I are still tied now with six. Dave: [55:45] All right, that's over here, but blaze of glory time. Patty: [55:46] It's over for me. Curtains. Dave: [55:50] Here we go. Who has not, if nothing else, you're keeping this away from Tara, so that's good. Clip: [55:55] I'm gonna take a look. Dave: [55:55] Who has not made a guest appearance? Tara: [55:56] Rude and Sarah. Dave: [55:58] Just shut up. Who has not made a guest appearance on Friends? Clip: [56:00] Cause I make all the cool. Dave: [56:01] Now you understand. Tara: [56:02] Oh, I see. The question, yes. Dave: [56:04] Yes. Who has not made a guest appearance on Friends? Clip: [56:07] Cause I make all Couldn't both have the bar. Dave: [56:07] Is it Robert Reed, Jim O'Hare, Helen Hunt? One of those has not made an appearance on Friends. Patty: [56:14] Jesus. Clip: [56:14] Cause I couldn't book the bar. Patty: [56:16] Um Ah, I'm a young little baby. Dave: [56:19] If you were a bit older, I bet you would know the answer immediately. Clip: [56:22] Could I make a little bit of a message? Dave: [56:23] But you're a young little baby. Patty: [56:29] Robert okay, yeah, I'm like okay, Robert Reed, Jim O'Hare, and who was the third? Clip: [56:29] Cause I make I want to see a rack. Dave: [56:34] Helen Huntington, the main channel, is a very important thing to do. Patty: [56:34] I'm sorry, Helen Hunt. Tara: [56:34] Helenand He's old. Patty: [56:36] Okay, um I'm gonna say I'm just gonna was Robert Reed dead? Clip: [56:44] It's only come to my room. Patty: [56:44] I'm gonna guess. I don't know. He's older, right? Dave: [56:47] Robert Reid is your answer? Patty: [56:49] I think Robert Reid is my answer. Clip: [56:50] I want to see a rack of medicine. Dave: [56:51] You are correct. He was in fact dead two years before Friends even started. Sarah: [56:53] Yeah, he's yeah, he's been dead. Patty: [56:54] Okay, all right, nice, okay. Dave: [56:55] So yeah, he is the dad from the Brady Bunch. Patty: [56:57] It took me a while to come up with what he did, what I thought he was. Dave: [57:00] Yeah. Patty: [57:00] Yeah, okay, good. Tara: [57:00] Yeah. Patty: [57:01] All right, yeah, like 70 sitcom actor. Tara: [57:02] But very generic names, too. Patty: [57:02] It's like they didn't live too long. Dave: [57:03] All right, yes That is true. Patty: [57:06] That too. Dave: [57:06] All right. Clip: [57:07] Is a big company I'm on like I want to go back and make a moment like I want to go back and make Cool, and the barrier and momentum. Dave: [57:07] Went out in a high note. Let's go to Sarah D. Bundy for her last question. Who has not directed episodes of their own TV show? Is it James Vanderbeek, Ellen Pompeo, Richard Schiff? Which one has not directed an episode of their own TV show? Sarah: [57:28] All right, so we got the beak, the pump, and old shiffy. Dave: [57:32] The pop, yep. Sarah: [57:34] I that does seem like something Pompeo would do, but it does sort of cross me up a little bit. I'm gonna say the beak. Dave: [57:42] The beak is correct. So you were now in the lead by one, correct? All right. Tara has to get this afars a tie. Who has not played a role on drunk history? Tara: [57:55] Oh, a role. Okay, so not as a storyteller. Dave: [57:57] Yes, a role. Tara: [57:58] Okay. Dave: [57:58] Here we go. Zoe Deschenel, Sophia Vegara, Courtney Cox, who has not played a role on Drunk History US. Clip: [58:06] Is a big old makeup. Dave: [58:09] I guess there's Drunk History franchised out, apparently. Tara: [58:12] There's a there's a UK version at least. Dave: [58:14] Okay. Tara: [58:14] Yeah, none of the I mean, Zoe Deschanel, I think, is probably for sure. Who is the middle one again? Dave: [58:20] Sophia Fregara You are correct. Tara: [58:20] Sophia Vergara. Her. I don't think she did it. Dave: [58:24] We have forced a tie. Tara: [58:26] Oh boy. Dave: [58:27] This could end in a tie because you, you know, who knows how this is going to work. Clip: [58:29] It's a me coming to the book. Dave: [58:30] So I'm going to have to have you lock in your answers and not cheat. Tara: [58:33] Okay. Sarah: [58:34] Okay. Tara: [58:34] Okay. Dave: [58:35] All right. Tara: [58:35] Well, I can write it down. Dave: [58:36] I have two. Clip: [58:36] It's a big up to the book. Tara: [58:37] Yeah. Dave: [58:37] I have two questions. So if we get a tie in the first, we still have an opportunity to break it on the second. Tara: [58:41] Okay, yep. Dave: [58:41] Here we go. Sarah: [58:42] Okay. Dave: [58:43] Who has not owned or founded a celebrity restaurant? Tara: [58:49] Okay. Dave: [58:50] Is it Idris Elba, Zach Brath? Tara: [58:52] Uh-huh. Dave: [58:54] There's your scrubs. Claudia was coming, sir. Sarah: [58:56] No, damn it. Dave: [58:58] Rachel Bloom. Tara: [59:00] Okay, I'm locked in. Dave: [59:02] All right. Tara is locked in. Sarah's locked in. All right, Tara, let's get your answer first. Clip: [59:06] Cause I make a clean one. Dave: [59:07] She has answered Bloom. Sarah: [59:07] Oh, I didn't write it down. Tara: [59:07] Rachel Bloom. Dave: [59:09] That's fine. Tara: [59:10] No, I believe you. I just I'm just showing showing that I'm honest. Dave: [59:11] Yeah, we believe you, Sarah. Clip: [59:13] Cause I make a clean It's a big old is a big up to the boat. Sarah: [59:14] Well, I also chose Bloom, so it doesn't really matter. Dave: [59:16] All right. Tara: [59:16] Okay. Dave: [59:17] You are both correct. Tara: [59:18] Okay. Dave: [59:19] All right. So let's see if we can break it with this one. If not, we're just going to split the points. You're both going to get a half the point. Tara: [59:24] Mm-hmm. Dave: [59:24] It's going to be your fault. Patty: [59:25] What is what I was wa wondering about that. Tara: [59:25] Sidebar, how shitty is the food at Zach Brass's restaurant? Okay, go on. Dave: [59:30] Zach Brath owns Mermaid Oyster Bar, so I'm going to guess very. Patty: [59:33] Oh that that place is okay. Tara: [59:35] I hate him so much more now. Sarah: [59:35] Oh, I mean, and it's like uh you could rearrange the letters so easily to be barf. Like, why? Tara: [59:42] All right, all right. Patty: [59:42] Yeah. Tara: [59:43] Okay. Patty: [59:43] That place okay. He he's I don't think he's playing a big role in the you know, he just he just kicks the money in so Robert Reed is dead. Tara: [59:47] I'm sure. Dave: [59:49] No, he's he dies for the oysters, Patty. That's this true. Who has not starred on the love boat? Tara: [59:56] Oh, no. Dave: [59:56] Here we go. David Hasselhoff, Tom Sellick, Kirstie Alley. Tara: [59:59] Uhhuh. Uh-huh. Dave: [1:00:03] One of them has not guest starred on the love boat. Two have. Tara: [1:00:09] All right, I'm locked in. Dave: [1:00:10] Tar is locked in. Sarah: [1:00:11] Me too. Dave: [1:00:12] Sarah's locked in. Let's go to Sarah first. Sarah: [1:00:14] I said the half. Tara: [1:00:15] Oh, good, I didn't. I said Christy Alley. Dave: [1:00:18] Fuck me. You're both wrong. Sarah: [1:00:22] God damn it, Magnum. Dave: [1:00:22] Tom Sell. I was so excited when I heard the Hoff, and then you had to go with Allie and fuck it up in a totally different way. Tara: [1:00:27] I'm sorry. Clip: [1:00:28] Cause I make on top. Dave: [1:00:30] I guess that's it. You both win and both lose for the first time ever. I'm awarding a half a point to both of you, making this game totally useless. Clip: [1:00:36] Cause I make on top. Tara: [1:00:36] Oh. Sarah: [1:00:40] Yay! Dave: [1:00:46] Ah, terrible. Tara: [1:00:47] I'm sorry. Sarah: [1:00:48] Tara gets the last word. Dave: [1:00:50] Jesus Christ. Sarah: [1:00:50] Sorry. Dave: [1:00:51] All right, guys, that is it for this episode of the Extra Hot Grate. We gave you the lowdown on the lowdown before going around the dial, in which Tara modeled model comedian Patty threw down on pottery throwdown and Sarah Lindy's up lind. Tara showed up to regularize the regular show for the canon. We winnered and losered some winners and losers of the week. And nobody gained the game time from Amy this week. Next. Next up, it's next up is something I'd say in a perfect universe, but it is in fact season five of Slow Horses. Remember. Clip: [1:01:25] We're listening. Dave: [1:01:28] Hi, I'm David T. Cole, and on behalf of Tara Ariano, Sarah D. Tara: [1:01:31] No, he's just dead. Dave: [1:01:33] Bunting, and Patty Monaghan. Sarah: [1:01:35] All nighter, all night herself. Dave: [1:01:41] Yep. That's one of my favorite in a while. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time right here on Extra Hot Grate. Clip: [1:01:53] I'm saying a faint heart never fucked a popcat. Dave: [1:01:58] I'm just making a note to myself to clip the Robert Reed thing. So any future mentioner Robert Reed, we'll be hearing that on the podcast. Sarah: [1:02:05] Robert Reeves did. Tara: [1:02:06] Excellent. Sarah: [1:02:07] Love it.