Giving You The Lowdown On The Lowdown

Clip 00:00 I'll give you a thousand dollars for those shades this head in a brief makeup tutorial. Okay. Dave 00:19 This is the Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 581 for the week of September 22nd, 2025. I am Peace of Shit David T. Cole, and I'm here with Poorly Groomed Bookstore owner Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 00:37 I'm not a murderer, I've been murdered. Dave 00:39 Drunk widow Tara Ariana and doesn't read the calendar and never will Patrick Monaghan Welcome back, Patrick. Tara 00:41 He was a good man. Patty 00:46 Forty minutes is good. Tara 00:53 Welcome to Extra Hot Great for another week joining us. He is a podcast host. You've heard him with us before. It's Patrick Monaghan. Welcome back, Patrick. Patty 01:03 Hello, hello, hello. Sarah 01:03 Patrick If you think I'm not going to recommend a show about a conspiracy jocking bookstore owner who just Casually sniffs his sharpie while updating his crazy wall. Tara 01:07 We're delighted to have you to talk about the lowdown in which Lee Raybon, Ethan Hawk. Dave 01:07 Hello. Tara 01:13 Is a rare book stealer and journalist in Tulsa, Oklahoma. As we meet him, he has just published a huge expose of the powerful Washberg family. Including Donald, Kyle McLaughlin, a businessman running for governor. But since that piece coincided with the apparent suicide of Dale, Tim Blake Nelson, Donald's brother, a lot of people have their eyes on Lee. He doesn't have the leisure to worry much about that while he also has to find money to pay his one-shop employee, look after his daughter Frances, Ryan Kira Armstrong, and oh yeah, evade the local skinheads who are mad about some of his other pieces. The show was created by Sterling Harjo, who previously brought us Reservation Dogs. It premiered its first two episodes Tuesday, September 23rd on FX. So that's probably all we're going to talk about. although I've seen the first five of eight in the season. Let's do the Chen check-in. Patty, should our listeners watch the lowdown? Patty 02:05 I think, yes. It's a shaggy show. It's not very propulsive, at least in the first two. I like watching the guy get always beaten up. And that's you have you have that for sure. Tara 02:14 Sarah. Sarah 02:27 You literally do not know me at all. Yes, you should watch it. Dave 02:32 Thank you, Patty, for the got beat up a lot because I was trying to figure out what it reminded me of and it was Jake from Chinatown. I was getting the shit beat out of him. I enjoyed it. It was scratching a Cohen brothers itch that I needed scratch. Sarah 02:45 Mm-hmm, for sure. Tara 02:46 Yes. All right, let's get into the spoiler zone. For me, one of the many strengths of reservation dogs is how quickly it makes the viewer feel Situated in its world and how fully realized that world is. Patty, did you feel like the lowdown does the same thing? Patty 03:00 Yeah, I I mean, you you get a very good sense very quickly of kind of who everyone seems to be, and then you start seeing them in the same place, you know, all in the same places over and over again. It's like, oh, okay, they're all Funeral, so these are powerful people, you know, yada yada yada. So, yeah, I thought it did a good job of building that out. Dave 03:17 I think Reservation Dogs has the benefit of being a world many of us aren't familiar with or intimately familiar with. So it felt like it was sucking you in more. Whereas this one's a little more familiar, but I thought it did a really good job. If not place and time, mood and feeling, you know, like it, it felt like Going to that really old restaurant in town where it's like, you know, this has been here forever. How's this Spanish restaurant still here? You know, and then it's like, well, you know, we just can't beat Casa de Toro. It's just going to be here forever. It felt like that kind of universe to me. Tara 03:50 Yeah, I'll also say as the season goes on, you see more Tulsa area junk shops. And every time they went to a new one, I was like. We gotta go to Tulsa. It's only like a seven hour drive from here, so we totally could. And also for the reservation dogs watchers, Devery Jacobs makes a teeny tiny cameo in the second episode related to the makeup tutorial that we heard about too. Ethan Hawke appeared in one of the last episodes of Reservation Dogs, apparently just because he liked the show and reached out to be on it. So based on the early evidence here, what do we think of him as a Sterling Harjo protagonist? Patty 04:23 I think he settles very well into the role. I took me a while to figure out what I was getting a vibe of. And it was a movie that is problematic in the sense of who made it, but uh well, actually and who's in it, Jesus. Uh but I really love the movie The Ninth Gate about a dirt bag rare book dealer getting in over his head on a bunch of stuff. Tara 04:38 Sure. Mm-hmm. Patty 04:41 This is another rare book guy who gets in over his head on some stuff, maybe a little bit more intentionally. Tara 04:44 Mhm. Yes. Patty 04:46 Like I said, and he's always got like another band-aid on or something. You know, I don't know how far it goes over the eight episodes, you know. Dave 04:52 He's the mummy at the end. Patty 04:53 Yeah, he's in a full body cast. Dave 04:54 Yeah. Patty 04:56 The last few episodes, somebody's pushing around a hospital bed. He's on traction. Tara 05:00 Yeah, I feel like Ethan Hawk is one of the few leading men of his like, of his level, I guess, of fame who can convincingly play a fuck-up to this degree without seeming like he's doing it mostly. To prove that he can. I mean, Sarah, do you agree? Sarah 05:13 Yeah, that was one of my notes that I was like, I'm not sure if this is because I watched Boyhood and really loved it. I was bringing some of his vibes in For him to this, as well as like Lebowski meets Lone Gunman vibes. But I think it's a credit to his performance. And you mentioned this in your review on Cracked Truth Story and like Calm Down. A little bit, but like a protagonist like this, you don't always see why people put up with him in the universe. Right? Like the performance isn't always like sometimes it's like too anti-hero, sometimes he's just too feckless. Ethan Hogg does a really good job pitching this like Amped up, true believing, like white boy who cares, as a couple of other characters put it. You get a sense of like the smarts and the charm and the experience that this character actually also has and not just the he's always late and he's like, you know, trying to talk his tween daughter out of going on stakeouts, but not talking her out of it that much. Crazy wall guy. So, this is really good casting because he is convincing as this person, but also not so convincing that you're like, why hasn't he been kicked to death by now? Tara 06:35 Mm-hmm. Sarah 06:35 Like long before the show started. Tara 06:37 Yeah. Sarah 06:37 So, yeah, good choice there. Tara 06:40 Well, we have to talk about the rare books part of it too. Past the Ninth Gate, because bookish is coming to PBS, I think, soon. And now this, Sarah, how does it feel to see your lived experience represented in pop culture like this? Sarah 06:53 I'm just like a true crime second hand book person. There's occasionally a rarity. Rare book people are a different, even more bizarre breed. In my experience. But I mean, you do love to see it. And like, you do also want, given where the series you began. In the first season, you do want some more relatable, aspirational stories told about us extreme weirdos, but there's a couple of throwaway lines about like Selling old 70s copies of On the Road is not going to cut it. Like you're always, you're waiting for the whale, sometimes literally, in an old Moby Dick. Even the way that the store was laid out and the overstuffed bookshelves that were kind of not at right angles, I was like, someone has done this. Tara 07:46 Yeah. Sarah 07:47 For a living, I get it. Tara 07:49 Normally, I am not a big fan of a prestige drama dad having a precious daughter to humanize him, but I would say Frances is one of the less annoying ones in her class. What did everyone else think of her relationship with Lee? Patty 08:00 Yeah, it kind of reminds me of the nice guys. It's rare. I have a very low tolerance for the sort of precocious kid type. But if you do it in the right way, and she's not especially precocious or anything like that, she's just not stupid. She can see what's happening, you know. But she's old, she's a little older, too. Which helps, you know. Thought it was fun. And I, you know, was concerned that when uh when someone showed up at the bookstore in the second episode, you know, it's kind of like, okay, wow, I actually give a shit about you know, a lot of the time it's like, just whatever, kidnap them already, you know. Tara 08:29 Yeah. Sarah 08:30 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Patty 08:32 We're going to do that, fine. Let's use the device. Yeah, there's a whole that whole crew, like that, like this weird, desolate kind of row of shops, you know, kind of They've got like, you know, I mean, obviously making Blair amazing, but yeah, it's just, it's just a very, it is a very warm little place there, even though it's like a bunch of, you know, sleaze balls, basically. Tara 08:49 Yeah, yes. I was going to ask you about that too, because this is a remote Repository of that guy actors, in addition to Megan Blair. And then Josh Fadem is also, he owns the record store on that strip, the guy, one of the guys from Better Call Sol from the film crew. Patty 09:04 Oh, you know, yeah, I didn't even I actually didn't even clock him. Tara 09:04 But there's. Patty 09:07 I guess I didn't was looking down or something. Tara 09:09 Yeah. Patty 09:09 I know he wasn't on for that much time, but yeah, okay, sure. Tara 09:11 He's not. Yes, he's not. But there's also Keith David, Dale Dickey, Tim Blake Nelson, Tracy Letts. That's just going in IMDb order because there's. So many more. Was there one? Hey, it's that guy you were especially happy to see a go-around the horn, Dave. Dave 09:25 I did actually clock the guy from Better Call us all, which was a tiny triumph for me because you know I have actor face blindness. Tara 09:32 Yeah. Dave 09:32 I'm always happy to see Keith David in something. Tara 09:34 Mm-hmm. Dave 09:35 He's been in so much lately. This guy is just working. He's just like finishes, he clocks off this show, and he gets in his car, and he's driving over to Duster, and he's doing that. Tara 09:43 Ghost one state over, yeah. Dave 09:45 Yeah, he's just like always working, and I'm happy for it. So I think that would be mine. Tara 09:49 Mhm. Dave 09:50 I love my saw some keep dated. Tara 09:51 Patty Yep. Patty 09:52 I'm really enjoying the Johnny Pemberton kind of dirt bag. Transition over the over the years from like the first thing I saw him in was like I think it was in the loop where he was playing like a White House aide or something I don't remember anything before that, but I'm sure he was around. Dave 09:57 Yeah. Tara 09:58 Mhm. Oh, yeah, yeah. Dave 10:02 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Patty 10:07 But just going from that to now this and it being you know, it's as he gets older, it just becomes more you know, it's not losing any credibility. Dave 10:12 Yeah, continuing his uh fallout, yeah. Patty 10:14 So Right, exactly. Tara 10:16 Oh, yeah, right. Dave 10:17 Mm-hmm. Patty 10:18 Yep, yep. Sarah 10:18 Tara, would you like to bet yourself who I'm going to say? Tracy Letts. Tara 10:22 There he is, who I didn't even recognize at first with a beard. Sarah 10:26 I know the casting was heavily Tulsa and Oklahomans natives, so I thought that was. Great to see him, and of course, you know, after Homeland, like it's really not a huge jump for him to be one of those like richies in a half-zip vest, just like doing his thing. Tara 10:43 Yeah. Sarah 10:46 I mean, I always love him so. Tara 10:47 I'll say Michael Hitchcock appears in the first episode and then he comes back several more times and he's great. He's like a sort of Frenemy antique dealer to Lee. They have a great relationship. Patty 10:58 Oh, yeah. Tara 10:59 He's good. I was in for basically everything the show is doing, except trying to make truth story and half. Sarah 11:04 Uh yeah. Tara 11:04 And Sarah already brought it up. Was I the only one bummed out by this term? And it did seem like after the pilot, they didn't have him say it that much anymore. But anyone else? Sarah 11:13 I felt like the show knew that it was corny. Dave 11:16 Yeah, yeah. Sarah 11:17 So, like, I didn't love it either, but I was also, I felt like the show also didn't love it. It was just something that this guy would do. Dave 11:23 Yeah, I think it's part of the white guy who cares comments. Patty 11:24 Right. Tara 11:26 Sure. Patty 11:27 Right. Dave 11:27 Yeah. Sarah 11:27 Yeah. Patty 11:28 He's corny. Right. So that's exactly. Tara 11:29 Mm-hmm. Dave 11:29 Yeah. Patty 11:30 At least in this in that mode, he's corny. Sarah 11:30 Yeah. Patty 11:32 So, yeah, exactly. Tara 11:33 Yeah. Well, the lowdown, good show. I'm gonna also link in the show notes to a profile of Sterling Harjo from the LA Times a few weeks ago that was really good and digs into his past as a journalist and the Lee Raybon mode and, you know, the person that he's modelled on and all that stuff. It's really well done. Dave 11:48 Just one last thing, a moment that I enjoyed because it's sort of a pet peeve of mine, how TV and movie writers can't let it go. There's a moment where the Keith David character calls out Lee, the Ethan Hawk character, for being the type that probably has a red yarn conspiracy wall. And sure enough, he actually does. Tara 12:05 He does. Dave 12:07 And I was like. Tara 12:08 Mm-hmm. Dave 12:08 Thank you. You're halfway there. Now, next time, don't do the wall at all. Clip 12:17 Got a lot of shows. It's a great time for shows. Dave 12:21 It is time to go around the dial talking about what we've watched on T V recently, not necessarily recent T V, but let's find out Tara Arellano first up. Tara 12:30 Yes, I'm talking about Caleb Heron, model comedian. I talked about it either here or on Patreon when it was announced. It's his new stand-up special on HBO Max. You may have seen him acting in Sweethearts or I Used to Be Funny or listened to his podcast So True. Model Comedian is his first full-length special. And rather than go on about it at length, here's a clip. Clip 12:49 When I was 15, I asked for a business suit. He had no business to speak of. I wanted one, and we were so broke. Like, I grew up very poor. And my mom was a single parent. She raised my brother and I by herself and worked three jobs while putting herself through school. Total. Total. But, you know, that's enough. It's my show. And if she wants applause, she should hit an open mic. You know what I mean? Own your craft, baby girl. I don't know what to tell you. No, but she's the best. And she, you know, they're expensive. And so when I asked for this suit, she was like. hey, you know, they're just kind of expensive and I'm wondering why you need if you could just tell me why you need one. And I was like, you stupid bitch. Sorry, I'm bigger than this small town. Like, leave me alone. Go back to one of your jobs. Damn. Tara 13:43 So it's really good. Sarah 13:44 Well, It's so good. Tara 13:44 The special goes places, there's more bits about his childhood and his family. There's bits about politics, not much. There is a bit where he involves the crowd in a limited way, but it's not doing crowd work. He invites them to insult him as part of a role-playing scene that they're doing, and then he critiques whether they were convincing. His closer is about a trip to a concentration camp when he was traveling in Europe. I know it sounds crazy to say. It's so funny considering. And if you missed it when it premiered on Friday night, it is. Streaming on HBO Max, and I recommend it. You can also read my review of that at Cracked. And I'm also going to give a shout-out to our friend Alan Seppenwell, who was laid off from Rolling Stone last week. Those Fuckers. They lost one subscriber that day. I'll tell you that. But you can subscribe to Alan's paid newsletter. It's alanseppenwalt. ghost. io, but we'll also link it in the show notes and support Alan because he's great. Dave 14:38 All right, Patty, what do you got for us? Patty 14:39 There's a program called The Great Pottery Throwdown. It's basically bake off, but with pots. And instead of a guy who you get a handshake when you do a good job, it's a guy, a big hulking man, who cries when you do a good job. Dave 14:46 Right. Tara 14:53 It's my favorite detail. Dave 14:54 Wow. Sarah 14:54 I love him. Patty 14:54 And it's and it's way less predictable too, because it'll be like a little tiny thing. It won't even necessarily be someone who did a good job, but they did like a good little like painting on the side of a pot that exploded or something. It's like being in a sous vide. It's very relaxing. Nothing bad ever really happens. Everyone is very supportive of one another. It's like bake off, but it's like pots. So, which are fun. And the reason I bring it up now is that they're all on the Roku channel. Up through, I think, the last season. So you can just go watch them all, which before that, they started. I found them on HBO during lockdown. I remember they were on Max. Sarah 15:28 Me too. Patty 15:28 And then. Sarah 15:29 Yep. Patty 15:29 And then only the first two were three, and then they stopped. Dave 15:32 Right. Patty 15:32 And then that's when I got into the whole VPN stuff. Dave 15:35 So if somebody watches Great British Bake Off Say, somebody in our house who's me, and really just watches it to be as mean as possible to everybody on the show. Will this person find value in the great pottery throwdown? Patty 15:51 They are interesting. Dave 15:52 I don't wish them ill will, but I want to be mean to them in the safety of my own house. Patty 15:54 Sure. Tara 15:57 Well, that's misleading. You also enjoyed the gentle comedy. Sarah 16:01 It's a similar vibe, and you can also Be mean to the producers, like at some point in the early seasons, they are asked to make a toilet, so it doesn't go well. Patty 16:12 That's true. Tara 16:12 Huh. Patty 16:13 It's got to be a working toilet. There was one I remember there was only one contestant. Who likes basically kept getting saved? I don't know why. I forget which, I think it was in the second series, maybe. That was the only person that my wife and I really had any real like enmity towards. It was like, oh, come on, she's just gonna blow it again. She's not following the brief. Why are you saving her just because, you know, all that kind of stuff? Tara 16:34 Mhm. Patty 16:34 And yeah, surprise, she didn't time herself well and she ran out of time again. Tara 16:38 You hate to see it. Patty 16:38 Yeah. Dave 16:39 So is the kiln like the freezer, they never have enough time to heat their stuff instead of freezing their stuff? Do they come out and it's all soggy and the pot just like Okay, all right. Patty 16:48 Well, the big risk in this show is that shit just blows up in the kiln. Like, you really you basically like can't predict If you have like a if there's like a little bubble or something, or like there's some like weak spot or whatever, it can just blow and you don't know until they open it up, obviously. Dave 16:55 Should have led with that. Yeah. Nice. Sarah 17:05 Yeah, and then sometimes it's like just a heap of rubble, basically, and that's, I don't know, kind of satisfying for the mean-spirited. Patty 17:05 So Yeah. Dave 17:11 Yeah. Patty 17:12 Yeah. But you can tell when somebody is like, usually when somebody's pushing it, then something bad is likely to happen. That's an element of danger that isn't really present in bake-off, I suppose. Dave 17:23 Very few injuries. Yeah. Nice. Patty, you're a fellow podcaster and Internet celebrity. Where can people find more about you? Patty 17:32 They can find me on the podcast What a time to be live is the show. That's me and uh it's uh Eli Udin, Kath Barbadoro. It is uh the least topical topical news podcast. I never really have a good pitch for what it is, but uh Oh, sure. Tara 17:47 Well, Eli was just here, so yes, now two of two of the the three have made it. Patty 17:50 Okay. So we're both so good at self-promoting, too. So I'm sure he did equally as tight a plug as I'm doing right now. So definitely check that out. Dave 18:00 All right, links in the show notes. Sarah Debundang, what have you been watching? Sarah 18:05 I have been watching Linley, which I it's different variations on like Linleep the new class, Linleep Babies, Lindley's Strange New Worlds. I don't know who asked for an Inspector Linley reboot. Even I, the only person under the age of 90 who has watched the original, would I would not have asked for it either, especially since a big part of the fun of watching the old ones is like seeing Mr. Bates from Downton show up as an abusive red-herring brother-in-law. But if you did enjoy the old school Lindleys, my fellow great-grandparents, you will like this one fine because aside from the casting, they really have not changed anything. Makes sense. The franchise is based on a book series, the author is an executive producer again, and if you liked the overall framework of the auths iteration, which in a nutshell is that Thomas Linley, a titled Toph of some sort, is paired with the decidedly less posh Barbara Havers and her indifferent attitude towards both personal style and interpersonal niceties. At first they hate each other, but they come to appreciate each other, blah, blah, blah. This Lindley is played by Leo Souter of Vikings Valhalla. The New Havers is Sophia Barclay. No word on whether the notorious and hilarious cavalcade of different actresses playing Helen will pertain. In the new series, but you will recognize the pair's shit-stirring captain. Daniel Mays just played the constable in Thursday Murder Club. and you will recognize the overly complicated and criminal intentishly drawn out nature of the cases which require our heroes to truck back and forth to a Crumbling Mance crime scene, like four times a day over the course of weeks. The better to argue in Lindley's Vintage Bristol 410. Yes, that's back as well. and let various suspects stand around drawing rooms glaring instead of, I dunno, getting rid of the evidence Lindley and Havers aren't going to realize is at the heart of the thing. Until the fourth act, a tale of Nige and Pippa. Told by an idiot signifying nothing. Anyway, it is on Britbox currently, but I wouldn't bother signing up for anything. It surely will come to PBS's Masterpiece early next year. And if you want to remind yourself about how satisfyingly silly the old ones are, they are on HBO Max for some reason. Please enjoy Nathaniel Parker's hilarable page boy. And at that time, you will have a solid Sunday night watch with the aging parents suggestion up your sleeve from both timelines. My suggestion/slash plug is once again for PBS. I suspect that some of you may recently have canceled your Disney Sphere streaming services, and if you would like to To put that money to good or better use. The ExtraHot Great Mutual Aid Vault is happy to have you, and you can email me for more info on that. Bunting at TomainoNation. com, but hopping on a PBS passport membership at your local station is also a great return on investment. decades of archives, science shows, cooking shows, and of course, all those masterpiece mysteries and Bob Ross. Link is in the show notes. Dave 21:22 All right, here's what's coming up on the Extra Hot Great Cinematic Universe. This Friday on Extra, Extra Hot, Great, we're going to be talking about season five of Slow Horses. Tara 21:30 Woo! Dave 21:31 That is available to club members. If you're not a club member, you can sign up at extrahawkgreat. com/slash club and then come back right here next week on EHG Prime. Kim Reed is back. We're going to be talking about Chad Powers. The only way you can say that is that way. Chad Powers. It is time for the extra hot great cannon presenting this week. It's Tara. Tara 21:57 Hello, let's return to the unnamed city and visit the unnamed park so that I can tell you why regular show season 7, episode 11, deserves to be inducted into the canon. Number one, the premise is painfully relatable. Clip one. Clip 22:13 Aw, yeah! It's Friday night, which means this is the most amount of time before we have to go back to work again. And what better way to celebrate than by watching back-to-back movie marathons? Who brought this spaghetti to the potluck? Watch out, lady! It's a boom! Ha! Ah, Detective Doralis. I see you already met your new partner, Duncan McCready. New partner? But he's Scottish. You got a problem with that? We'll be back for the rest of our Morales and Macready marathon after this. All night it, all night, all night it. Tara 22:50 Mordecai and Rigby are so excited for their marathon that they do, in fact, pull an all-nighter watching it, then sleep all day Saturday, waking up at night as the marathon resumes or continues. They repeat the same routine, apparently losing track of how many days are in a typical weekend, and then clip two. Clip 23:07 I really like the part with the bagpipe gun. Yeah, I'm really happy with my life choices right now, but I definitely want to go to sleep. Yeah! That trampoline's calling my name. Looks like some guys I know are excited for the Monday morning meeting. What? Monday! Tara 23:30 Making irresponsible choices at night that you will regret in the morning isn't a new subject for comedy. Jerry Seinfeld's bit on night guy versus morning guy has to be at least 30 years old at this point. But for those of us who aren't spending our weekend nights out clubbing or raging or whatever cool people do, the streaming era has only made a fuck-up like Mordecai and Rigby's easier to make. I've talked about this on the podcast before, but when the Devil's Plan came back and we had let a few episodes stack up, there were many Saturday nights where we realized we had stayed up until 5 a. watching just one more and a few weeknights. Where we were probably up past two doing that. This opening segment, in my opinion, perfectly captures both the euphoria of settling in for hours of TV watching and the crashing panic when you realize how you've just ruined your own life doing it. Number two, its portrayal of insomnia is painfully yet hilariously real. Clip three. Clip 24:19 Mordecai and Rigby, I want all the leaves raked and bagged by the end of the day. Rake the bags and put them in the leaves. You got it. I think you get the idea. I'll check back in later. Dude, most of my body's already asleep. I know. Our sleep schedule's all out of whack. But I think we just have to stay awake all day. That way we'll fall asleep like normal tonight. I mean. Okay. No matter what, we're gonna stay up all day What are you doing? What time is it? Six o'clock! The sun's already down, and you've raked no leaves! Tara 24:59 A show that is mainly for kids and tweens is not going to portray Mordecai and Rigby trying to regulate their sleep with sleeping pills or weed gummies, which is bad luck for the characters. who end up lying in, respectively, their bed and laundry covered mini trampoline, extremely awake and getting increasingly stressed out about it. Clip four. Clip 25:17 If you ever look at the ceiling and start to see the stars Life's really about the little moments, you know? I bet if we watch something really boring on TV, we'll fall asleep. Yes! I hate the little moments! Oh, hello, I'm Dr. Sheldon Weatherberry. Welcome to my thrilling 24-part series on the art and upkeep of museum level bug pinning. Perfect. Where are you going, you slippery monarch? I finally feel like I can get some rest. Yeah, let's go to bed Hey Gary! Tara 26:03 Because the sun is up. Coffee of a possibly pharmaceutical grade gets Rigby and Mordecai through their workday, but leaves them so awake at 3:03 a. , Rigby can't even close his eyes. This probably isn't something the kids and tweens the show is mainly for have had to deal with personally, but I appreciate that this episode is preparing them for a tortuous future, being unable to fall asleep and hating and fearing their alarms, because that's what adulthood is. Number three, Skips is, as usual, the show's stealth best character, even when he's just a bridge to the intra-dimensional weirdo of the week. Desperate to break the cycle of disordered sleep, Mordecai and Rigby wake Skips up to help them. Skips takes them to see Gary, Messenger for the Guardians of Eternal Youth, Clip Five. Clip 26:49 Mordecai and Rigby need to go to the Sentinels of Sleep. But I need my rest. Do you think I can look this good without a full night's sleep? Yes. That's the correct answer. Tara 26:59 Just about every episode of Regular Show has its climax, either in a fantastical realm or with a visitor from a fantastical realm. In this case it's the former as Gary brings them to Drifter's Port. Rigby immediately makes an enemy of Coco the Night Owl by laughing at his name, but Coco is still willing to let the guys try to solve their problem in the obvious way. Clip Six. Clip 27:18 You've got to race to catch the sun. If you catch it before it sets, you go back to being a morning person. So we just gotta catch the sun? Yeah, that's right. But if you fail, you'll be stuck as A night owl forever. I don't know. Seems deceptively simple. Tara 27:36 The vehicles everyone has to use on the sun chasing course are motorcycles or Sleep cycles, if you will, and I say everyone because Mordecai and Rigby aren't the only ones trying to fix their sleep patterns. Clip seven. Clip 27:47 There's already a guy out there. This is it. Finally gonna get my life together. No more Mr. Night Guy. Oh no! There's no way out here. Does he have to be a night owl now? Oh, no, he's just dead. Tara 28:12 After the guys take their own turn on the very video gamish race course, we see them leap into the sun and then clip eight. Clip 28:20 Ugh, I can't wait to go to sleep. Hey, look. Stay tuned for a marathon of Morales and McCready Origins. All nighter, all-nighter. Go to sleep! Tara 28:35 There it is. The guys aren't going to listen or learn anything from this ordeal, but it's important that Skip's tried, even though it's not the TV's fault. Don't punch a TV. As a lifelong night owl with horrible sleep hygiene, this episode reflected my experience. But I hope those of you who always go to bed at a reasonable hour have no trouble falling asleep and awaken refreshed and cheerful, and good for you. We'll also agree this episode should be inducted into the canon. Dave 29:00 Thank you, Tara. Patty, why don't you take first crack at this? Patty 29:04 I hadn't seen this one in a while. I watched all the way through, but it's been a long time. Quintessential episode. It doesn't get quite as big as some of them do, but it sort of hits all the beats that I love. My favorite thing you didn't mention was the guy who delivered the coffee just like blows up his van when he gets there. Tara 29:20 Yes. Patty 29:21 And there's just and he just kind of hands them the coffee and then says, Please call an ambulance. Just a very strange one-off guy. Tara 29:26 Yes. Patty 29:29 Not clear why the coffee is related to him blowing up his van. Just, you know, so. That's the stuff I love. You know, I could watch this show forever. Dave 29:35 Yeah, yeah. Patty 29:38 I'm glad there are like a million episodes because they're all very entertaining. Dave 29:41 Yeah. I also like the giant coffee cups he provides, which are half the size of the characters. Patty 29:44 Yes. Yes. Tara 29:46 Yeah. Patty 29:47 It's always a treat, and there's always such such weird little lore going on. Dave 29:50 Yeah. Patty 29:50 Like, who are these bird guys? Dave 29:52 Yeah, it's it's it's a story about two guys who work in a park, often interrupted by fever dreams. It feels like that's the type of show you're watching. Tara 30:01 Mm-hmm. Dave 30:01 You know, it's the Bit 80 sitcom, but then it's like, what the fuck is going on now? Patty 30:01 Yeah. Dave 30:04 And those moments are always great. Patty 30:07 Yeah. Dave 30:07 Yeah. Patty 30:07 Um so yeah, I I I vote yes. Dave 30:09 Okay, all right. Patty 30:10 I I said I said put it in. Dave 30:11 Server debunting, what say you? Sarah 30:13 I love the attention to detail, but it doesn't get Too preoccupied with it, like just the sort of ongoing snippets of the promotions for Morales and McCready. For the sake of our son, and then like he's a zombie at Loch Mess, and like just the little seeds that they plant, that it's like, what would that movie even be, but you do understand why they were staying up all night. Police Call an Ambulance was very funny. I'm not sure in a show that is ostensibly For kids, that the meth implication there is 100% what they wanted to do, but on the other hand, maybe it is. Tara 30:53 It's just coffee officially. Dave 30:53 Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, absolutely was. Sarah 30:58 Sheldon Weatherberry is just like, Where are you going, you slippery monarch? Like, just so, so good. And then it's the Joker. From T V's Batman et al. Just the little touches, like they get to the bar and it's like, ooh, that classic sort of film and T V scene, whether or not it's a Place full of like sketchy people where they're not supposed to be, and then behind the bar, clown comes out of a snake's mouth, and you're like, wow, like that's the most fever dreamy thing that could happen. So it happened. And, you know, like just the little there's no air out here. Like the timing and pacing of it is really Perfect. I haven't watched much of the show, but this was really hilarious and also relatable as someone who Keeps lately staying up way past my bedtime watching Strange New Worlds episodes that are like kind of not always worth it. Tara 31:58 Yeah. Sarah 31:58 But we're like chasing the high of everyone being a Vulcan. So I don't know. Excellent presentation. And I totally get why this was on the list. Well played. Tara 32:10 Added by me. I'll also say for anyone who doesn't know, we talked about the secret horrors episode of Close Enough a few weeks ago, and that is also by the same creator, JJ Quintel. Patty 32:19 Does he have a new show coming? I I think so, right? Wasn't there some discussion of something kicking around? Dave 32:24 I was going to ask Patty if you watch close enough as well, because that yeah. Patty 32:27 I I did I did I didn't get through the last season uh before they uh yanked it off unceremoniously. Dave 32:31 Oh, right, it's gone. That's right. I forgot. Patty 32:33 Yeah. Tara 32:33 I think it's on we found it on Daily Motion, so well Yeah. Dave 32:33 Yeah, those crumb bumps. Right. Patty 32:36 Okay. Dave 32:36 Good old daily motion. Watch it mirrored, reversed, and stretched. Daily motion's got you. Sarah 32:42 With Bulgarian subtitles. Dave 32:45 I really like regular show. I feel like it's a gateway to like stoner comedy. It's like child's first stoner comedy. I gotta say though, this episode, even though it starts really, really well for me with the McCready stuff, absolutely love how much of that they give you and how it sort of accelerates through. That franchise, little blips that sort of make sense in sort of this like 80s franchise kind of way. But then I find there's like a big lull in the middle of this episode until it gets crazy again at the end when they're in this. Weird Mario Kart meets Tron, meets Fever Dream, Chasing the Sun video game experience. And the one thing nobody's mentioned because of that clip where the first guy, the old guy they're watching, the first guy to try to get through the track, is like dodging obstacles and spikes and stuff like that. And the way he gets knocked off the track is there's Just one guy with a pillow, and the guy hits him with the pillow as he comes by, and he falls off and tumbles through space. Tara 33:43 Yeah. Dave 33:45 So, there's a lot here that I like, but I just felt like there was a chunk in the middle. That needed tightening, and I kind of wish that part was tighter. And I feel like there are episodes of Regular Show that does balance that better for me. And this episode follows the formula of Regular Show, which is like. They're in the park, and then something weird shit happens, and now they're in this like fantastical universe, and it's all fucked up. And we love that. It's just the connecting bit in between that I wasn't canon-worthy for me. Tara 34:14 Before you throw it to the vote, it was announced last summer in 2024 that JG Quintel would be showrunner for an adult television adaptation of Gillian Tamaki's webcomic Super Mutant Magic Academy for Adult Swim. So I think it's could or could not be a going concern still. There is not new news since then. Dave 34:33 All right, let's put this to the official vote. Patty, what say you, cannon worthy or not? Patty 34:38 Yeah, I'm saying yeah. You know, it's a fun, you know, I think I already said yeah, so I have to stick with it anyway, but no, I I'm wavering a little bit, I have to say, because there was that lull in the middle, you know, but they're not all, they're not all wall-to-wall. Tara 34:45 You can change your mind. Patty 34:52 I don't know. I'm just so fond of these little guys, you know? Dave 34:54 Yeah. Patty 34:55 I mean, it's it's We didn't even get the whole I mean, we didn't even get the whole cast. Dave 34:55 Follow your heart. Follow your heart, Penny. Patty 34:59 We didn't we know we didn't even get the whole we didn't got no mum no pops really. Dave 35:00 No pops. Yeah. Patty 35:02 No, yeah. Dave 35:03 Yeah. Patty 35:03 I'm putting them in. Dave 35:04 All right. Patty 35:04 Get him in. Dave 35:04 Very good. Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 35:06 I also say yay. Dave 35:08 All right. I think this episode is very worth your time, but not quite canon worthy for me, put against the rest of the show. Tara 35:15 I'm just going to say, the last time I pitched a regular show, you also said no. But do I see you trying to pitch your own regular shows? No. Dave 35:22 Well, maybe if you stop doing it, I sneak one in. Tara 35:22 Maybe you should. Sarah 35:25 Maybe a king of queens, Dave. Dave 35:27 All right. So it doesn't matter what. That's right. What if? What if I did that? Doesn't matter what I think because it's already two to one. So That means that regular show season seven, episode 11, Sleep Cycle, you're hereby inducted into the extra hot gray cannon. Clip 35:54 Americans love a winner. Yup. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. Dave 35:59 It is time to discover the winner and loser of the week. Sarah has this week's winner. Sarah 36:05 Yes, I do. Pete Early and Gerald Shore. Their non-fiction book, Witsec, is getting developed into a series about the origins of the Witness Protection Program. Pete Early is a true crime genre. Titan has written all over the genre. I think this will be pretty interesting. There's definitely, I think, an appetite sort of periodically for Witsek processy shows. And I hope that. It is something like Mindhunter, like on that level of process, but also good characters. Dave 36:38 And loser of the weak turn. Tara 36:39 Love is Blind apparently trying to break a record for most sued reality show because they're being sued again. This time is by a past show participant named Stephen Richardson, and he's alleging sleep deprivation, isolation, lack of food, and an excess of alcohol on the show and is trying to. Get other people who have been on the show to join as a class action lawsuit. And I'll just say, because I looked up how many other times the show has been sued, this is the fourth that we know of. I'm going to say an entire show is the subject of a story on MarieClaire. com that has the headline: A Complete Timeline of Lawsuits and Allegations Brought Against Love is Blind. Maybe go back to the drawing board because this is not the kind of show that anyone should probably be making. I'm so happy for all of the very real couples that got married for real and are really in love. Dave 37:31 Well, speaking about things that get bad coverage in Marie Claire, do you know what time it is? Tara 37:35 It's getting time. Sarah 37:36 Gotta be game time. Dave 37:37 It's game time. All right, this is the fifth game time of the season. The scores currently are Tara has one, Sarah has one, Value Guess with two. Two points. Yes. Today we are playing Never Have I Ever from Amy Allenspock, who earns herself an extra credit. Topic of her choosing, plus a free shirt from our store. You can visit that at throughmethods. com. This one is pretty straightforward. You will get a list of three TV actors where one of the three has not done the activity I will describe. All you need to do is name the actor for one point. That's all the game. You just guess once, you get the point, or you don't. We have 30 questions, but we are on a little bit of a time crunch. So if we cut it a little short, that's why. No seal meals, no equalizer zones today. Let's throw it to Picky to see who is going first. Clip 38:45 We will start with valued guest. Dave 38:47 All right, so we're going to go Patty, then Sarah, then Tara. Are we ready to play? Never, have I ever? Tara 38:54 Yes. Dave 38:54 All right, we're starting with Patty. Sarah 38:54 Yeah. Dave 38:57 Who has not hosted Saturday Night Live more than four times? Is it Candice Bergen, John Hamm, or Woody Harrelson? One of them has not hosted SNL more than four times. Which one of those is it? Patty 39:18 Candice Bergen Okay Oh, I was oh yeah, I was gonna be wrong either way. Dave 39:20 Ooh, she has hosted five times, as has Woody Harrelson. The answer here. Clip 39:25 Like I want to make a rock, 'cause I make a war. Tara 39:25 Really? I would have thought Woody. Patty 39:30 Okay. Dave 39:30 Sarah D. Bunting, who has not made a guest appearance on Law and Order? Sarah 39:32 Yeah. Clip 39:32 Like I wanna make a rock, 'cause I'm made of Can't bow, I'm the bar. Tara 39:37 Oh boy. Dave 39:38 Is it Hayden Panatier, excuse me, Will Arnett or Tony Shaloub? Sarah 39:38 No, wow. Tara 39:45 Can I ask a clarifying question on Sarah's behalf? Dave 39:48 I don't know if it's the whole franchise or not. Tara 39:48 This is lo Okay. Clip 39:49 Cause I'm a cutter. Sarah 39:50 Okay. Yeah. Uh I believe that it is Shaloub who did not do it. Clip 39:57 Cause I'm a little bit more of a bad thing. Dave 39:59 You are correct. Tara 39:59 Nice. Dave 40:00 Yes, Tony Shaloub did not. Tara. Tara 40:02 Yes. Dave 40:03 Who was not born in California? Elizabeth Moss, Katie Seagal, Nick Offerman was not born in California. Tara 40:13 Nick Nick Offerman. Dave 40:16 You are correct. Back to Patty. Who has not played a member of the clergy on television? Not played a member of the clergy. Is it Natasha Leone? Betty Gilpin or Rob Lowe. One of them has not played a clergyperson on T V. Tara 40:34 Crips, and two of them have is the crazy part. Dave 40:35 But which one? Patty 40:36 Hmm Yeah, um Yes. Sarah 40:39 Yeah Mhm. Dave 40:41 Well, I could think of one very easily. Patty 40:44 Uh I'm gonna I'm gonna have to trick myself and say Rob Lowe here. Oh my God. Dave 40:50 Incorrect. Gilpin on Mrs. Davis. Patty 40:52 Sure. Tara 40:53 Right. Dave 40:53 Rob Lowe, Father Jude Sutton on You, Me and the Apocalypse. Tara 40:57 Sure. Clip 40:57 Is a big computer. Dave 40:57 Remember that? Sarah 40:57 Oh, sure. Dave 40:59 Leaving Natasha Leone out in the cold. Sarah 41:00 Jesus. Patty 41:02 I just figured she had some weird things at some point. Tara 41:02 Huh. Dave 41:04 It seems like she should. Tara 41:05 It seems like she was on Transparent as a Rabbi or something. Dave 41:08 Yeah. Clip 41:08 I won't go like I'm a dance or a mouse or I can't make Like I wanna take a rock to make a move like I'm a rock to make It's a big up to the big up to the Cause I'm back on the moon. Dave 41:08 Well, she was just in what was it? Fantastic Four. She wasn't a clergy person, but she was involved with the synagogue there. Tara 41:13 No, she was involved in yeah. Dave 41:15 Yeah. Sarah D. Bunting, who has not won a Prime Time Emmy for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series? Has not? Is it Mandy Patinkin, the Patink, Ed Asner? or Timothy off of his pants has not won a primetime Emmy for outstanding lead actor in a drama series. Sarah 41:38 In a drama series, there's arguments for and against all of these. Dave 41:40 Yes. Sarah 41:46 So I am going To say that it is Patink Stank who didn't No, I don't know why he thought he won. Dave 41:56 Incorrect. Timothy Alphan has been nominated but has not won. Tara 42:00 I would have thought Dave only put it in so he could play the clip. Dave 42:05 Tara, who has not made a guest appearance on Arrested Development? Tara 42:06 Yeah. Mm Mm. Dave 42:11 Brian Baum Gardner. Baumgardner. Tara 42:14 Yeah. Dave 42:15 John Krasinski, Mindy Kalinga, and Which one is Bomb Gardener Gardener? Tara 42:16 Right. I mean, anything could be happening in those last two seasons, honestly. Sarah 42:24 We'd never know. Tara 42:25 God, I'm gonna Kevin. Dave 42:29 Oh, okay. Tara 42:29 The chili spiller. Dave 42:31 Yeah, got it. Tara 42:32 Yep. He will tell you about it on cameo. He's very successful there. Okay, I'm going to say, I'm going to say Krasinski. Fucking money. Dave 42:42 Killing not on a restaurant development. All right, back to Patty. Sarah 42:46 Damn. Dave 42:46 Who is not, Patty, a published author? Lauren Graham, James Spader, Hilary Duff, one of them not a published author. Patty 42:57 Yeah, of course, they are the author of these books. That's a key part of that. They're slaving over every page. Okay, so it's yeah. Dave 43:07 Graham Spader Duff, my favorite law firm. Clip 43:13 I don't know. Patty 43:14 Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go spader Yeah, I would Some kind of Redding r around the Reddington era, maybe, there would have been something. Clip 43:14 I don't know. Dave 43:17 You're correct. Tara 43:18 Nice Mhm. Dave 43:18 James Pater, nicely done. Clip 43:18 Cause I'm back on Can you book out the cable? Dave 43:20 He's too good for it. People don't deserve to know more about James Pater. Sarah 43:23 I would have guessed that he had like a whole series of crime novels and Mm-hmm. Tara 43:28 I mean, I wouldn't surprise me, James Spaderson. Dave 43:29 Oh, it's like James James Patterson it up, yeah. Clip 43:30 I won't let it go. Dave 43:32 Uh-huh. Tara 43:37 Mm-hmm. Clip 43:37 I'm on the light. Patty 43:38 But I mean, Hilary Duff, I figured there was some, you know, kids' book and then uh yeah, and then I know there's a Gilmore Girls book. Clip 43:39 I'm a dummy rock. Tara 43:41 When she was a kid, yeah. Patty 43:44 I assume that's what that is. Tara 43:45 I think she's written a novel and a memoir, Lauren Graham. Patty 43:46 So, yeah. Dave 43:48 I just assume if it's a celebrity and they've published something, it's a kid's book. That's my first thought. Clip 43:53 Like I wouldn't rack up a rock to make True, and the bar is a moment. Sarah 43:55 Cookbook. Dave 43:55 Sarah D. Bunting, who does not have a twin in real life? Sarah 43:57 Yeah. Yo. Dave 44:00 Terry Cruz, Ramy Malik, Laverne Cox does not have a twin in real life. Sarah 44:07 Oh shit. Well, I know Malik does, which is why we have to call John Ramos his secret triplet, 'cause he actually has a secret twit. Tara 44:13 It's triplet, yep. Dave 44:13 Yeah, mhm. Sarah 44:17 Uh oh, Terry Cruz Ah, right. Clip 44:18 Cause I'm back on the cut ring. I'm okay. Dave 44:21 You are correct, Terry Cruz. Tara 44:23 Laverne Cox's brother played her character in Orange is the New Black pre-transition. Clip 44:24 I'm a clean. Cause I'm a comic book, brain. I ain't walking. I'm on, like, does it rock a bad? Dave 44:30 Tara, who was not born outside of the US? Sarah 44:30 Okay. Tara 44:31 Yes. Clip 44:33 Cause I'm a boy, I'm a man. Dave 44:34 Not born outside of the US. Mila Kunas, Eva Longoria, Rose McGowan. Clip 44:37 I'm a woman, like I'm a rocket. It'll be a weird Like I want to rock out to make a Is a big old is a big hundred I want to get the light. Tara 44:43 I'm pretty sure Evelyn Goria was born in Texas, so I'm going to say Rose McGowan. Shit! Dave 44:49 Evil umbrella Back to Patty. Tara 44:50 Damn it. Dave 44:53 Who has not been a judge on BruPaul's Drag Race US? Christian Ritter, Tori Spelling, Lucy Lawless. Which one of those actresses? Tara 45:03 Lucy Lawless, not loosely lawless. Sarah 45:03 Loosely Oh, they had Tori on that shit. Dave 45:05 Lucly Lawless. Patty 45:05 Lucly Lawless. Dave 45:07 I was just describing her demeanor. Tara 45:09 Uh-huh. Dave 45:09 She's loosely lawless. Tara 45:10 Yeah. Dave 45:11 Lucy Lawless. Patty 45:13 I don't think I've ever seen a minute of this show, so this is challenging for me. I'm doing a lot of projecting what I think the show is like onto these people. Okay, who was the m uh Lucy Lawless, Kristen Ritter? Dave 45:23 You've uh Kristen Britter, Tory spelling, loosely lawless. Patty 45:24 Who was the third? Tour spelling. Loosely lawless. I'm going to go loosely lawless. Dave 45:33 Oh, no. Kristen Ritter, not been a judge. Tara 45:36 That's surprising. Patty 45:36 Really? Dave 45:37 Yeah. Yep. Patty 45:37 Yeah. Tara 45:39 Remember we watched it 'cause she it was her and Jenny Garth. They did like a 90210 acting challenge. Sarah 45:43 Oh, yeah, we did. I blocked it out. Patty 45:45 That seemed obvious to me. Tara 45:46 Mm-hmm. Patty 45:46 I mean, she'll do it, you know, if you call her, I assume. Tara 45:48 Oh, there's nothing she won't do. Sarah 45:50 Oh, yeah, she'll do it even if you don't call her. She'll just show up at the stage door. Dave 45:54 Sarah D. Bunting, who has not played more than one character on the same show has not done that? Sarah 45:56 Yeah. Dave 46:00 Is it Jerry Orbach, Peter Capaldi, or Richard Kind? Sarah 46:07 Well, we can rule out Orbach, and then it's kind of a coin flip. I'm gonna say Capaldi. Dave 46:12 Ooh, Richard Kind. Sarah 46:15 No! Clip 46:16 Rock and make a little bit of a bunch of people. Dave 46:17 Tara, who has not done an ad for Snickers? Shelly Long, Roseanne Barr, Betty White. You're correct. Sarah 46:30 Wow, nice. Dave 46:30 Back to Patty. Who has not had a song on the Billboard Top 10? Billboard Top 10. Is it? Donald Glover, Raven Simone, Don Johnson Which one has not had a song in the Billboard top ten? Clip 46:40 Cause I make a whole breakout. Tara 46:43 Oh, that's a tough one. Clip 46:44 I want to go out and make a turn out of it. Sarah 46:45 Oh heartbeat Oh, good old fart bleat. Tara 46:46 Fuck. Dave 46:50 Glover Raven Simone Johnson. Patty 46:53 I feel like I'm the exact age to have totally missed whatever Raven Simone had going on, too. Like, whatever the music part of it was. Dave 47:00 I could tell you the title if you want. Patty 47:00 Like, I'm. Dave 47:02 It's called Strut. Clip 47:02 Is a big up to the book and the ball. Patty 47:02 Sure. Okay. Dave 47:04 I got This is America, Strut, and Heartbeat in Play on this question. Tara 47:09 Yeah, you're definitely too young to have been around in the Don Johnson recording artist era. Clip 47:10 It's a big up to the boat and the bar Like I would make a move. Dave 47:12 Listen to the harp be Snow Jack Wagner Glover 2019. Sarah 47:13 Oh my god. Patty 47:14 I'm aware that it exists. Sarah 47:15 Thank God for that. Tara 47:16 Yeah. Patty 47:16 Yeah. Uh sheesh. Um Yeah, the man. Tara 47:19 He's no Jack Wagner, I'll say that. Sarah 47:21 Yeah, nope. Patty 47:22 I'm thinking of Raymond Simone. Is this like Dr. Doolittle era? Clip 47:26 Cook a book and the ball couldn't make up I want it a rock to make a move. Patty 47:26 Like she's like that old, or was it when she was like a kid? I don't know. Man. Yeah. Sure. Dave 47:33 Raven Simone, 2006. Don Johnson, 86. Those are the years which they charted, but only one failed to make the top ten. Patty 47:38 Yeah. I am going to say, and I'm probably going to be wrong: Raven Simone. Dave 47:48 I regret to inform you you are correct. Clip 47:48 Cut them up, and the woman cut them up. Dave 47:52 This is America hit number one, strut fifty-three. Tara 47:55 Hmm. Dave 47:56 Heartbeat five got to five. Tara 47:57 Wow. Patty 47:58 Okay. Sarah 47:58 Oh my god, Billboard. Patty 47:59 Wow. Okay. Dave 48:00 Yep. Sarah 48:00 What are you doing? Don't encourage him. Clip 48:02 It's a big old kill. Patty 48:02 It's good that I didn't forget, you know, it just was never it was not a hit. Tara 48:04 Mm-hmm. Sarah 48:05 This is how you end up with the return of Bruno. Dave 48:06 Yeah. This is how we save the culture. Patty 48:07 Um I mean, what am I supposed to do without my cell phone? Clip 48:09 It's a big comfortable. Patty 48:12 That's the Raymond Simone quote that I think of the most. Clip 48:15 Like I want to make a rock and make a rocket to make Come to the book, we'll come on. Dave 48:16 Who was not Sarah D. Bunting over thirty when their episode of Doctor Who first aired? Kudi Gatwa, David Tennant, Matt Smith, who was not over 30 when their episode of Doctor Who first aired, or guess when their first episode of Doctor Who aired, I think. Sarah 48:34 Why do I get the Doctor Who question? Isn't there a Scrubs question you'd like to give me instead? Dave 48:40 Well You are correct. Sarah 48:41 I will guess Matt Smith. Dave 48:45 He was 28 in his debut. Tara 48:45 Nice. That's not what I would have said. Good job. Dave 48:48 Yep. And 31 and 34 for the others. All right. This will take us into our score break. It is for Tara who has not made a guest appearance on ER. Tara 48:57 Oh, no, yes. Dave 48:58 Cynthia Nixon, Kim Cattrall, Kristen Davis. Clip 49:02 There's a big old cruelty. Tara 49:02 Oh boy Kim Control Wow. Sarah 49:04 No wow. Clip 49:09 There's a big of a movement. Dave 49:14 You are correct. Sarah 49:15 Wow, Hmm. Patty 49:15 Wow. Dave 49:16 Amazing. Nicely done. All right. That is our halfway mark. We need scores, please. Tara 49:22 It's so tight. This game is really hard. Patty has two points. Sarah and I are tied with three. Dave 49:26 All right, let's get back to it. Back to Patty's question. Who was not Patty not born in London? Is it Rose Leslie, Coos Jumbo, Delroy Lindo, not born in London? Patty 49:43 Uh Rose Leslie Yeah. Dave 49:47 You are correct. Tara 49:47 Nice She has terrible politics probably. Dave 49:48 Where do you think she was born? Patty 49:49 Uh somewhere more rural or something. Her dad's a like a oh, oh, she's Scottish. Dave 49:53 Scotland, so you're probably right. Yep. Patty 49:55 Okay, there you go. Dave 49:56 Yeah, nicely done. Patty 49:58 I was going like her dad's like a big Tory politician or something. Dave 50:00 Yeah. Patty 50:00 So I was like, they're probably not, they're out of the cities because the cities are dangerous. Dave 50:03 They're at their mansion eating endangered animals. Sarah D. Bunting, who has not earned a master's degree or higher? Not honorary. Those don't count. Sarah 50:16 Okay. Dave 50:16 All right. Clip 50:16 Cause I make all the way. Dave 50:16 Hill Harper. Ken Jong, Brad Garrett, has not earned a master's degree, honestly. Clip 50:24 Cause I make all Cut the book break and bar cut the book break and bar Oh, I die, I think, oh, I don't like it. Sarah 50:26 Garrett Garrett Oh, well, yeah. Dave 50:27 You are correct. Tara 50:28 Nice. Dave 50:29 Tara, who is not a graduate of Juilliard? Tara 50:30 Yeah. Hm. Dave 50:34 Is it Kelsey Grammer, Fred Armison, Viola Davis? Tara 50:40 Fred Armison, Wow, nice. Dave 50:41 You are correct. Confidently answered. All right, this is question for Patty. Who was not born on a military base? Johnny Galecki. Jerry Ryan January Jones. Which of those Jays not born on a military base? Johnny Jerry January You are correct. Patty 51:09 January Jones, just going with it. Dave 51:11 Nicely done Sarah, who does not have a cousin who is also a famous actor? Patty 51:11 All right. Clip 51:16 Cause I make a cool Cause I make a lot of money. Dave 51:19 Is it Billy Porter, Henry Winkler, Melissa McCarthy? Clip 51:24 Can you book out the ball? Dave 51:25 One of those does not have a cousin who is also a famous actor. Clip 51:27 I'm on the candle. Sarah 51:29 I don't have any idea. Dave 51:30 Wow, there's some information here I was not aware of, and I'm kind of tickled by it. Sarah 51:36 I am gonna say Porter. Dave 51:41 Billy Porter. Porter is your answer? Billy Porter, you are correct. Clip 51:44 I want to work on that. Sarah 51:44 Yes. Tara 51:46 Whoa, nice. Dave 51:47 Does anybody know the cousins in play here? Tara 51:49 No. Dave 51:50 Melissa McCarthy and Jenny McCarthy. Clip 51:51 I'm a little bit walking. Dave 51:52 They're cousins. Tara 51:52 Oh, I think I did know that at one point. Sarah 51:53 Oh, Jesus, that's right. Dave 51:54 But get this Richard Belzer and the Fawns are cousins. Tara 51:58 Shut the fuck up. Sarah 51:59 Oh fuck, that's right. Tara 52:00 Really? Dave 52:00 Yep. Tara 52:01 That's amazing. Sarah 52:01 Oh my god. Dave 52:01 That is great. Tara 52:02 I love that. Sarah 52:03 Beltzer, also an author. Dave 52:06 Tara, who does not have more than two children in real life? Tara 52:06 Yeah. Hm Mm strong fuck Oh. Dave 52:11 Is it Jeremy Strong, Kieran Culkin, Brian Cox? Clip 52:14 I want to see a rocket. Cause I'm a kid. Dave 52:21 Nope. Clip 52:21 I want to see a rocket. Dave 52:22 It is Kieran Culkin. Clip 52:23 Is a makeup to the book. Dave 52:23 Jeremy has three kids. Brian Cox, four. Culkin has two. Tara 52:28 He was going on so much in awards season about like, oh, my kids, my kids, I can't watch movies because of my kids. Clip 52:30 It's a makeup to the boat. Tara 52:34 I thought he had like five. Clip 52:34 I won't let it rock. Tara 52:36 Turns out he's just a whiner. Dave 52:38 Patty, do you watch The Simpsons? Patty 52:40 I do. Dave 52:41 Do you watch Sesame Street religiously still? Clip 52:42 I won't let it rock It's a big up to the boat. Patty 52:44 Sesame Street, not as much. Dave 52:45 Okay, who has not made a guest appearance on both Sesame Street and The Simpsons? Tara 52:51 Fuck Smolders No, Kobe, Kobe, not Colby. Dave 52:52 Is it Allison Hannigan? Clip 52:53 It's a big up to the book. Dave 52:55 Colby Smothers. Smalders. Every fucking time. Clip 52:58 Like I want to take a rock to make a move. Dave 52:58 Colby Smalters. Smalders. Colby Smalters. Neil Patrick Harris. Patty 53:05 Okay. Dave 53:06 How I Met Your Mother Trio of Choice. Clip 53:06 I want to take a rock to make Cause I make a clean one, I'm a baby. Patty 53:06 Um I am gonna say Kobe I was like, there must have been some buffy thing at some point where she had like two lines. Tara 53:14 Wow, that's what I would have said too. Dave 53:15 No, that's what I would have guessed as well. Allison Hannigan was the answer there. Tara 53:19 Damn. Patty 53:24 I was trying to think of anything like anything in The Simpsons, but yeah. Tara 53:24 Yeah huh. Clip 53:27 I don't want you to make a clean one, I'm a baby I'm on, like, I'm a big rock. Patty 53:27 Okay. Dave 53:27 All right, Sarah, who has not run for office in the United States? George Takei. Oh, my. Judah Friedlander. Jerry Springer has not run for office in the U. Clip 53:41 I'm a black one, I'm a rock. Dave 53:42 S. Sarah 53:43 Okay, um well, Springer was the mayor of Cincy, I think. Clip 53:45 Cause I make a whole lot of clean Make up to the bow, and I'll be moving to the bow. Sarah 53:48 So that's Take and Friedlander. Dave 53:52 He has a hat that says vote for me. Sarah 53:54 Take A. Dave 53:56 No, no, it's Freelander. Sarah 53:58 Oh, okay. Dave 53:59 Back to Tara. Who did not graduate from Yale? Tara 54:02 Mm. Me. Dave 54:03 Jane Krakowski, David Hyde Pierce, David Dukovny. Tara 54:05 Mm-hmm. Dave 54:09 He was all of history's greatest acting robots. Tara 54:11 Yeah, um Jane Krakowski Wow. Dave 54:16 You are correct. Back to Patty. Who has not appeared on Celebrity Jeopardy? Sam Watterson, Benjamin Bratt, Chris Knoth. Patty 54:29 Uh two of them have. Okay. Um I just I'm just running and gunning here. Sarah 54:32 Yeah, that's a lot of info. Patty 54:39 I I guess I'm gonna go I'm gonna go brat wrong. Dave 54:43 No. Sarah, I guess. Sarah 54:46 I think it's nose because he's too busy drinking at night. Dave 54:49 You are correct. Tara 54:49 Yeah, I've seen Sam Waterston on Celebrity Jeopardy. Dave 54:52 Yeah. All right. To Sarah for her full question. Who has not starred on Broadway? Carol Kane, John Ratzenberger, Katie Holmes. Not starred on Broadway. Sarah 55:06 Hmm Ratzenberger Oh, my God. Clip 55:07 Cause I may come to the book. I'm a body. Dave 55:10 Correct. Tara 55:11 Nice. Dave 55:11 Nicely done. Back to Tara. Who does not, does not have a sibling in the industry? Clip 55:15 Cause I make up the turn. I'm a woman. Tara 55:17 Hmm Mm-hmm. Dave 55:18 Dan Levy. Clip 55:20 Like I wanna get a rock 'cause I'm a little bit more. Dave 55:20 Felicia Rashad, Megan Maloli. Tara 55:21 Hm Megan Malally I know the other two. Dave 55:25 Very good. Confidently answered. Clip 55:28 Like I wanna get a rock 'cause I'm in I want it a rock. Dave 55:28 R. All right. Tara 55:30 Sarah Levy and Eugene is Dan Levy's sister, and Debbie Allen is Felicia Rashad's sister. Dave 55:33 Uh-huh. You are correct. All right, everybody has one last question, so let's get the scores. Tara 55:40 Okay. Patty has four. Sarah and I are still tied now with six. Dave 55:45 All right, that's over here, but blaze of glory time. Patty 55:46 It's over for me. Curtains. Dave 55:50 Here we go. Who has not, if nothing else, you're keeping this away from Tara, so that's good. Clip 55:55 I'm gonna take a look. Dave 55:55 Who has not made a guest appearance? Tara 55:56 Rude and Sarah. Dave 55:58 Just shut up. Who has not made a guest appearance on Friends? Clip 56:00 Cause I make all the cool. Dave 56:01 Now you understand. Tara 56:02 Oh, I see. The question, yes. Dave 56:04 Yes. Who has not made a guest appearance on Friends? Clip 56:07 Cause I make all Couldn't both have the bar. Dave 56:07 Is it Robert Reed, Jim O'Hare, Helen Hunt? One of those has not made an appearance on Friends. Patty 56:14 Jesus. Clip 56:14 Cause I couldn't book the bar. Patty 56:16 Um Ah, I'm a young little baby. Dave 56:19 If you were a bit older, I bet you would know the answer immediately. Clip 56:22 Could I make a little bit of a message? Dave 56:23 But you're a young little baby. Patty 56:29 Robert okay, yeah, I'm like okay, Robert Reed, Jim O'Hare, and who was the third? Clip 56:29 Cause I make I want to see a rack. Dave 56:34 Helen Huntington, the main channel, is a very important thing to do. Patty 56:34 I'm sorry, Helen Hunt. Tara 56:34 Helenand He's old. Patty 56:36 Okay, um I'm gonna say I'm just gonna was Robert Reed dead? Clip 56:44 It's only come to my room. Patty 56:44 I'm gonna guess. I don't know. He's older, right? Dave 56:47 Robert Reid is your answer? Patty 56:49 I think Robert Reid is my answer. Clip 56:50 I want to see a rack of medicine. Dave 56:51 You are correct. He was in fact dead two years before Friends even started. Sarah 56:53 Yeah, he's yeah, he's been dead. Patty 56:54 Okay, all right, nice, okay. Dave 56:55 So yeah, he is the dad from the Brady Bunch. Patty 56:57 It took me a while to come up with what he did, what I thought he was. Dave 57:00 Yeah. Patty 57:00 Yeah, okay, good. Tara 57:00 Yeah. Patty 57:01 All right, yeah, like 70 sitcom actor. Tara 57:02 But very generic names, too. Patty 57:02 It's like they didn't live too long. Dave 57:03 All right, yes That is true. Patty 57:06 That too. Dave 57:06 All right. Clip 57:07 Is a big company I'm on like I want to go back and make a moment like I want to go back and make Cool, and the barrier and momentum. Dave 57:07 Went out in a high note. Let's go to Sarah D. Bundy for her last question. Who has not directed episodes of their own TV show? Is it James Vanderbeek, Ellen Pompeo, Richard Schiff? Which one has not directed an episode of their own TV show? Sarah 57:28 All right, so we got the beak, the pump, and old shiffy. Dave 57:32 The pop, yep. Sarah 57:34 I that does seem like something Pompeo would do, but it does sort of cross me up a little bit. I'm gonna say the beak. Dave 57:42 The beak is correct. So you were now in the lead by one, correct? All right. Tara has to get this afars a tie. Who has not played a role on drunk history? Tara 57:55 Oh, a role. Okay, so not as a storyteller. Dave 57:57 Yes, a role. Tara 57:58 Okay. Dave 57:58 Here we go. Zoe Deschenel, Sophia Vegara, Courtney Cox, who has not played a role on Drunk History US. Clip 58:06 Is a big old makeup. Dave 58:09 I guess there's Drunk History franchised out, apparently. Tara 58:12 There's a there's a UK version at least. Dave 58:14 Okay. Tara 58:14 Yeah, none of the I mean, Zoe Deschanel, I think, is probably for sure. Who is the middle one again? Dave 58:20 Sophia Fregara You are correct. Tara 58:20 Sophia Vergara. Her. I don't think she did it. Dave 58:24 We have forced a tie. Tara 58:26 Oh boy. Dave 58:27 This could end in a tie because you, you know, who knows how this is going to work. Clip 58:29 It's a me coming to the book. Dave 58:30 So I'm going to have to have you lock in your answers and not cheat. Tara 58:33 Okay. Sarah 58:34 Okay. Tara 58:34 Okay. Dave 58:35 All right. Tara 58:35 Well, I can write it down. Dave 58:36 I have two. Clip 58:36 It's a big up to the book. Tara 58:37 Yeah. Dave 58:37 I have two questions. So if we get a tie in the first, we still have an opportunity to break it on the second. Tara 58:41 Okay, yep. Dave 58:41 Here we go. Sarah 58:42 Okay. Dave 58:43 Who has not owned or founded a celebrity restaurant? Tara 58:49 Okay. Dave 58:50 Is it Idris Elba, Zach Brath? Tara 58:52 Uh-huh. Dave 58:54 There's your scrubs. Claudia was coming, sir. Sarah 58:56 No, damn it. Dave 58:58 Rachel Bloom. Tara 59:00 Okay, I'm locked in. Dave 59:02 All right. Tara is locked in. Sarah's locked in. All right, Tara, let's get your answer first. Clip 59:06 Cause I make a clean one. Dave 59:07 She has answered Bloom. Sarah 59:07 Oh, I didn't write it down. Tara 59:07 Rachel Bloom. Dave 59:09 That's fine. Tara 59:10 No, I believe you. I just I'm just showing showing that I'm honest. Dave 59:11 Yeah, we believe you, Sarah. Clip 59:13 Cause I make a clean It's a big old is a big up to the boat. Sarah 59:14 Well, I also chose Bloom, so it doesn't really matter. Dave 59:16 All right. Tara 59:16 Okay. Dave 59:17 You are both correct. Tara 59:18 Okay. Dave 59:19 All right. So let's see if we can break it with this one. If not, we're just going to split the points. You're both going to get a half the point. Tara 59:24 Mm-hmm. Dave 59:24 It's going to be your fault. Patty 59:25 What is what I was wa wondering about that. Tara 59:25 Sidebar, how shitty is the food at Zach Brass's restaurant? Okay, go on. Dave 59:30 Zach Brath owns Mermaid Oyster Bar, so I'm going to guess very. Patty 59:33 Oh that that place is okay. Tara 59:35 I hate him so much more now. Sarah 59:35 Oh, I mean, and it's like uh you could rearrange the letters so easily to be barf. Like, why? Tara 59:42 All right, all right. Patty 59:42 Yeah. Tara 59:43 Okay. Patty 59:43 That place okay. He he's I don't think he's playing a big role in the you know, he just he just kicks the money in so Robert Reed is dead. Tara 59:47 I'm sure. Dave 59:49 No, he's he dies for the oysters, Patty. That's this true. Who has not starred on the love boat? Tara 59:56 Oh, no. Dave 59:56 Here we go. David Hasselhoff, Tom Sellick, Kirstie Alley. Tara 59:59 Uhhuh. Uh-huh. Dave 1:00:03 One of them has not guest starred on the love boat. Two have. Tara 1:00:09 All right, I'm locked in. Dave 1:00:10 Tar is locked in. Sarah 1:00:11 Me too. Dave 1:00:12 Sarah's locked in. Let's go to Sarah first. Sarah 1:00:14 I said the half. Tara 1:00:15 Oh, good, I didn't. I said Christy Alley. Dave 1:00:18 Fuck me. You're both wrong. Sarah 1:00:22 God damn it, Magnum. Dave 1:00:22 Tom Sell. I was so excited when I heard the Hoff, and then you had to go with Allie and fuck it up in a totally different way. Tara 1:00:27 I'm sorry. Clip 1:00:28 Cause I make on top. Dave 1:00:30 I guess that's it. You both win and both lose for the first time ever. I'm awarding a half a point to both of you, making this game totally useless. Clip 1:00:36 Cause I make on top. Tara 1:00:36 Oh. Sarah 1:00:40 Yay! Dave 1:00:46 Ah, terrible. Tara 1:00:47 I'm sorry. Sarah 1:00:48 Tara gets the last word. Dave 1:00:50 Jesus Christ. Sarah 1:00:50 Sorry. Dave 1:00:51 All right, guys, that is it for this episode of the Extra Hot Grate. We gave you the lowdown on the lowdown before going around the dial, in which Tara modeled model comedian Patty threw down on pottery throwdown and Sarah Lindy's up lind. Tara showed up to regularize the regular show for the canon. We winnered and losered some winners and losers of the week. And nobody gained the game time from Amy this week. Next. Next up, it's next up is something I'd say in a perfect universe, but it is in fact season five of Slow Horses. Remember. Clip 1:01:25 We're listening. Dave 1:01:28 Hi, I'm David T. Cole, and on behalf of Tara Ariano, Sarah D. Tara 1:01:31 No, he's just dead. Dave 1:01:33 Bunting, and Patty Monaghan. Sarah 1:01:35 All nighter, all night herself. Dave 1:01:41 Yep. That's one of my favorite in a while. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time right here on Extra Hot Grate. Clip 1:01:53 I'm saying a faint heart never fucked a popcat. Dave 1:01:58 I'm just making a note to myself to clip the Robert Reed thing. So any future mentioner Robert Reed, we'll be hearing that on the podcast. Sarah 1:02:05 Robert Reeves did. Tara 1:02:06 Excellent. Sarah 1:02:07 Love it.