Going Undercover With Legends

Clip 00:01 Keeping your head down, aren't you? Which is smart, but it only gets you so far. Eventually you gotta show me what you can do. Ready manure, mate. Dave 00:18 This is the Extra Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 408 for the May Night 2026 weekend. I am ejected question asker David T. Cole, and I'm here with Crisis Mrs. Thatcher Can Solve, Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 00:37 You've got six months. Dave 00:38 And totally legitimate bread truck driver, Tara Ariano. Tara 00:42 Why are these customs agents following me? Welcome to Extra Extra Hot Great for another weekend. This is, of course. The podcast made impossible by your pledges. So we're so glad that you're here to Dave 01:01 You're our legends. Tara 01:02 That's right. We're glad you're here to join us for a discussion about Legends 2026. In this version, we are in Great Britain in 1990. Dave 01:11 It's okay. Tara 01:12 Heroine is a what? Dave 01:14 I said it's okay, Britain. Tara 01:17 I see. Heroin is a potentially mortal danger to beautiful blonde Oxford undergrads and track-suited Liverpool teenagers alike. Since Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher needs a win and thinks this is it, she orders the Home Secretary to tell Angus, Douglas Hodge the Customs Service's Director of Investigations to train a strike force of customs agents to investigate and disrupt the importation of heroin to the country. A few dozen internal volunteers get winnowed down to just four, whom Head of Operations Dawn, Steve Coogan, sends into the field after just a few weeks as their legends, which are the identities they create for their undercover assignments. It's more exciting than inspecting tourists' suitcases at the airport, but will any of them get so deep they can't crawl their way back out to their real selves? The show was created by Neil Forsyth, who previously brought us the gold. All six episodes dropped on Netflix May 7th, and we may talk about any of them. Let's do the chen check-in. Sarah, should our listeners watch Legends this version? Sarah 02:24 I really liked it, so I say yes. Tara 02:27 Dave. Dave 02:27 Yeah, I did. It's got that very consumable British thriller quality that I enjoy. Sarah 02:33 Yes, a hundred percent. Tara 02:34 I was on the fence, but if Dave wants to watch it, I will continue to watch it. Dave 02:38 Gee, thanks Tara 02:39 That's my review. Just a note up top, factually I know it's correct, but it is crazy to think of Margaret Thatcher being prime minister in the 90s. She s feels so 80sy to me, anyway. Sarah 02:50 I know. Yeah Dave 02:52 You know why? Because she had one of those Wi-Fi pill dispensers we were talking about last episode and just kept her alive for so long. Tara 02:57 That's right. Sarah 03:00 Well, snuggled in her instant heat blanket. Dave 03:02 Yep, I will never die. Tara 03:03 Right I personally could have spent a lot longer in the training phase of this story, Sarah, as our res resident process nerd. Did you get enough of that during the investigation as well? Sarah 03:17 Yeah, I thought the process bits really moved, and I think the writing has a good ear for the kind of viewer who is going to watch this wants process and also is going to be a real pill about music cues being correct. That's Buncy. And I was like, oh the stone roses. Great. Dave 03:38 Reminded me of the gold that way, that there is a process to this villainy and they get to it and you understand it and now we can get to how they interact. Tara 03:40 Yeah Sarah 03:41 Yeah, I'm not going to be able to do this. Yeah, like that they're furnished with mail, that one of the undercovers feels that he needs an office, and it's like, we don't have the budget for that, you're just gonna have to make do. Find points of sitting on or staking out like a buy point. And it's like early seasons of The Wire in that way also that there is a There is a lot of process and sort of getting you into this world via undercovers who are also new to this process, but it doesn't feel it's not like that CSI thing where they're explaining fingerprint powder to each other after eight years on the job. Tara 04:22 Right Sarah 04:24 This is much more like what a smart way, especially since it's based on real life. to get people into the process bits and uh it's well edited and paste as well. Dave 04:33 Yeah, because there's the process bits of them being introduced to the world and then there is, you know, here are the candidates that made it through, and here is the you know, the surpaco of it all, how they actually infiltrate these ne'er do wells. Sarah 04:44 Mm-hmm Dave 04:47 That are selling the drugs. And the thing that I appreciate about that second bit is that we really get to see how these people manage to get into those systems on the other end. You know, how is the custom agent going to get in good with the Turks in London who are distribution point for for all this. I thought that was really great. And then as the show moves on, it sort of broadens its scope with some of those processy bits and the opening of the second episode. There is this very reminiscent of Breaking Bad montage and it takes like it takes its time. It's like a full five minutes or so. where they show as I was calling it farm to table heroin. So it star starts in the Afghanistan fields where they're growing poppies and that shows it being driven from border check to BorderCheck, you know, they go to Pakistan and eventually it makes its way to Iran and then it gets stuffed in some guy's false leg and he manages to get to Heathrow and then he fakes a heart attack. So he can bypass the search at the customs area and then finally it gets to the Turks in their Turkish cafe and then off to the people to enjoy heroin. So the process he bits in the show are very enjoyable. Tara 06:02 Dave, we're used to seeing Steve Coogan as a comedy performer. Dave 06:05 Aha. Yeah. Tara 06:06 Aha! How did you warm to him in a dramatic context? Dave 06:10 Well, we've already seen him in sort of halfway between here and there in the um the trip trip? Tara 06:16 Yeah. Dave 06:16 in the trip series. Tara 06:18 Mm-hmm. Dave 06:18 So I know he has chops, and I feel like the trip is actually complaining about this, where it's like I could do so much more. Tara 06:26 Yeah. Dave 06:26 But I feel like, I feel like Steven Coogan, I feel like I'm not beginning ample opportunity. Also, I feel like I should be a big star in the States. Those are the two things I took away from the trip beyond the food. And I think that's real. I really think like he wants to do all this other stuff and he gets the opportunity once in a while. I thought he was great in this. I really bought that he is sort of this Sarah 06:47 Agree Dave 06:48 His character used to do what he's training all these people to do. He went undercover. He's kept on saying, like, I'm not the same person at the end of that as I was going into it, and you've feel it. He is somebody whose eyes don't shine quite the way everybody else's do. He's got that feeling to him. Tara 07:03 Yeah Dave 07:03 But when it comes to being the the manager for all these legends, you really get a feel that he knows what he's doing. that he's been there, and he's not necessarily sympathetic to them, but he can explain what they're in for, and I enjoyed that character. You know, he's sort of a no-nonsense, but you get the idea that Maybe he is sympathetic, but he's not going to say it because that's not part of the training. You know what I mean? Like I have to make sure that you are tough as nails for what's going to come your way. Sarah 07:33 I thought he was perfectly chosen. for this, there's you know that old sort of bromide about um comedy being much more difficult than straight ahead drama for for actors. I don't think that's it exactly. I should sort of query my husband on the difference or the sort of gradation of that expression, but I do think that sometimes, especially when you're used to playing like satirical or parodical characters, that just playing a regular person who's a little snarky is not easy, but it calls on skills that you already have And it also underpins it for the audience with a different vibe. It's sort of like uh seeing Ted Dancing in the season of Fargo. that he was in. It was just a sort of very different tone, but it made all the sense in the worlds that because you could trust this person's delivery as a c in a comedic setting You believed him as this cop. There's something about the trust that is created by a comedic actor being carried into a dramatic or a like nonfiction type of story. that I think really can be extremely effective sort of over and above the performance itself is the not baggage, but everything that the viewer brings in about the actor and so I thought it was really good, really smart, and he played it with just the right touch. Tara 09:05 Well, he also gets to be a little bit dryly funny. Like this, you know, it's the it's the kind of a drama show that has a lot of very funny parts. including when they're sort of winnowing down all of the volunteers. Sarah 09:14 Mm-hmm Tara 09:17 And, you know, anytime anyone like asks a question or like makes a single mistake, he's like, off you fuck, basically. So Yeah, so he's he's good at that too. Sarah 09:25 Yeah. Clip 09:28 Okay, fuck it, bye. Tara 09:29 Thank you. Guy uh is an airport customs agent who's played by Tom Burke. He gets, I would say, the most dimension in the early going. He we know he has a wife, played by Charlotte Ritchie, who also works for customs, and they have a daughter. But even so, I think his his character trait, at least at first, seems to be scowling, but he is um heavily foresh he does. Sarah 09:50 Mm-hmm Dave 09:50 It's got the pace for it. Tara 09:52 He's heavily foreshadowed to be the guy who ends up going too deep. Sarah 09:57 Mm mm Tara 09:57 Dave, what did you think of him and his performance? Dave 09:59 Yeah, like I just said, I think he's got the great a great face for it that and I think that goes a long way to infiltrating some of this. Tara 10:02 Mm-hmm. Dave 10:05 Like he looks like he's taken some punches in his life, right? Tara 10:07 Yes Sarah 10:07 Mm-hmm Dave 10:08 And he has enough girth that it feels like he has been on the streets. The the only thing I would say about this show is I feel like they've accelerated their comfort level with being undercover And I think that's a necessity of just getting to the point. Sarah 10:21 Mm-hmm. Tara 10:23 Sure. Dave 10:24 And if they did sort of show it in a realistic way, we would have been way into episode two before we got to the stuff. So I'm not criticizing that. Sarah 10:31 Sure. Dave 10:31 I'm just saying there's one thing that didn't quite feel like he was working at Heathrow, you know, just being the guy that searches your suitcases. He's bored out of his skull and he's given this opportunity to he's like He wants to do it, but he also realizes it's going to be a strain on everybody else in his life. But once he gets into it, once he's in thick with this Greek Greek guy who is the only Greek guy that's friend with the Turks in London, that's his into everything. He is sort of unprepared for the acceleration that meeting this guy is going to take him. Like, cause this The Greek character, I forget his name. Tara 11:07 Milan ask Dave 11:08 Thank you. Milanos is basically like he's his trial by fire. He brings him into the cafe, he starts fighting to see how he can fight. He sends goons to his apartment to sort of test his legend story. You know, he's sort of like the urinal scene in Reservoir Dogs with Mr. Orange, where he has to like do all that is basically the same thing. Tara 11:26 Yeah Sarah 11:28 Yeah. Dave 11:29 So I quite enjoyed him. I don't know if I've seen him in anything before. Tara 11:33 You've seen him before. Dave 11:34 Yeah. Tara 11:34 He was in the flashback episode of the beginning of season two of Utopia, the British Utopia. Dave 11:39 Oh, that's right. Tara 11:40 Yeah. Dave 11:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sarah 11:41 He's like definitely if this had been made at the same time that events in it are portraying, he would have been played by Gary Oldman. So he's like Gary Oldmansukus. Tara 11:54 Yeah. Sarah 11:54 Like it's a it's a big performance and it really does escalate quickly. Tara 11:56 Yeah. Dave 11:59 It's also got a Tom Hardy vibe to him too. Sarah 12:01 He gets paroled and then immediately, like, there's threats at gunpoint, like, and his like new protege is like, uh I guess the timeline is a bit accelerated, but I felt like in the Liverpool part of the story that that felt actually much more realistic. They're just like, oh well, we've been made again. Oh, it happened again. Uh I don't know. Uh it's good Dave 12:26 The two of us basically living in their car chasing this van trying to figure out how the how this you know, the roadmap of ne'er do wells selling heroin works and they come across this bakery van that's obviously the transport for everything, but and they um get made by this roving gang of early teen bikers that are sort of the lick of and there's like this moment where like they're pedaling straight to his car and it's like a horror film where he's like, oh shit and then like backs the car up and drives away. Tara 12:45 Kids on bikes, yeah Sarah 12:47 Yeah Dave 12:54 And And she's like, what's going on? It's like, oh, there's spotters for the uh for the heroin dealers. And I was like, they are learning as they go along that more so than Tom Burke's character, which he is a little more streetwise coming into everything. Tara 12:59 Uh huh. Yeah. Dave 13:08 So it's a good it's a good contrast. Tara 13:09 Mm-hmm. Should we expect a spin-off for the London homeowner who gets caught importing banned German pornography? Dave 13:18 That was great. Tara 13:19 That was really funny. Dave 13:19 Yeah, everybody has their pre-Legends little moment showing the banality of their Day-to-day jobs at the custom house and yeah, that was hers. She had to go and talk about some weird German fetish video or magazine he imported. Sarah 13:33 Have you asked the neighbors? Tara 13:34 Yes, should I no yes, yeah Sarah 13:35 And she's like, Do you want me to? You don't Dave 13:47 Everybody shut up. Speaking about legendary events, it's time for the Ask EHG segment and theme. Everybody loves it. Even Sarah is giving me so many fingers right now. It's how Sarah shows love. Sarah 14:05 Two is a lot. Dave 14:10 All right, we have no judgment for you this week, so let's get into your questions. First one from EC Fell. You talk about commercials sometimes, but how about infomercials? Any classic favorites or ones that especially stick out in your memory? Tara 14:25 Uh I probably have better memories of the infomercial spoofs from Friends or The Simpsons. I have not watched an infomercial from beginning to end. Sorry. I've never been that bored. Sarah. Sarah 14:39 I feel like that's not true. Dean Martin Celebrity Roast infomercials for the DVDs. Tara 14:45 Mm-mm. Sarah 14:46 No? Tara 14:46 Now Sarah 14:47 I could have watched them on a loop back in the day. There was a point in the early aughts where VH1 just had that on instead of anything actual and I would just watch them straight through and then I would watch it again from the beginning if I was like eating a sandwich or getting ready for bed and I probably still would If I recall correctly, my friend Mike got me the actual roasts, or like a couple of them, on DVD for my birthday one year, and it wasn't nearly as good as the infomercial advertising them. I was not able to find that on YouTube somehow, but it's got to be out there. And there definitely is a whole Shout Factory channel full of the actual roasts. We will link it in the show notes. Dave! Dave 15:30 You talk about the juice loosener Tara? Tara 15:32 Yes. I can't believe they invented it Dave 15:35 I'm gonna go with recent congressional candidate sham wow guy here in Texas. Tara 15:40 Oh, sure. Sarah 15:40 Oh, yeah. Dave 15:41 After Shamwow, we had Slap Chop. You're gonna love my nuts. Sarah 15:45 Yes Dave 15:46 That's the one I remember. Tara 15:46 Yeah. Dave 15:48 Damon, what bad behavior did you learn by watching your fellow podcast hosts? Sarah. Sarah 15:53 Uh NA, I'm the reprobate here. Sorry, Dave Dave 15:58 We are very well mannered. I'm gonna say being too kind and generous, Tara. Tara 16:04 Who did you learn that from? Dave 16:08 No no deer for a month Tara 16:10 Sarah has enabled a lot of purchases I might not have made otherwise. I don't think that's bad behavior, though. And um Dave is the reason that I feed our dogs people food, and I know that is bad, but we do it anyway. Sarah 16:23 Fair. Dave 16:23 And with an E. Whose personal finances are you more nervous about due to their sheer output of TV work? Kumal Nanjani or Nicole Kidman? So I think Kumeel Nanjani probably has less money, but I also think he's more careful with it. I bet Nicole Kimman has some really expensive, crusty style appetites. Like condor eggs and things of the such. Tara 16:46 Mm. Mm. Dave 16:48 So I'm a little more worried about her. Sarah 16:48 Wow. Tara 16:50 Well, she is getting divorced, so Sarah 16:51 Shots fired. Dave 16:53 Hmm. Tara 16:53 or was recently divorced, so it may be that she owes her ex money 'cause she made more than he does, and that's why she's amped it up, but Dave 17:03 I gotta believe Nicole Kidman has a pretty ironclad prenup for that situation. Tara 17:07 Who knows? Sarah 17:07 My God, yeah. Tara 17:08 He was also famous, so who knows? Dave 17:08 Who knows? Hmm. Tara 17:10 I'll say my answer is other than the AMC promo, which was not on TV, it was the you know shown in theaters. and has become a cultural object in its own right. I think Kidman is not doing commercials and Kumail is. So Kumail. He's in a campaign for direct TV with Rob Mac. Sarah. Sarah 17:30 I'm not worried about Kidman. She is an Oscar winner. She will have hush money from either Cruz or Urban or both Forever. Hush money from Cruz. Sorry I cheated on you money from Urban. Pretty sure that's why they're getting divorced. I'm not especially worried about Don Johnny either, to be honest. I think he just likes to work slash is insecure and also did a lot of work on his body that he is taking jobs to show. That's fine. Good for him. It's not my money. But of the two, I think Kidman's safety net is titanium, basically, so Dave 18:05 Oh, okay. Damon, what's a whole thing you cannot believe you ate? Tara 18:12 I unfortunately can believe I ate every whole thing I ever ate, but the most humbling might be that when you look at how many servings a box of craft dinner is supposed to be versus how many it is in your home. Dave 18:26 Yeah. Tara 18:26 Dave. Dave 18:27 Yeah, you can't eat one third of a box of craft dinner and be happy about it. Tara 18:30 No, no. Dave 18:31 I once, I think maybe you were away, Tara, but I once remember sitting in front of the TV and eating a whole thing of family-sized Oreos during the course of a movie. Tara 18:40 Wow. Dave 18:42 So that's two hours and approximately, what is that, 36, 42 Oreos? Tara 18:46 Uh yeah Dave 18:47 Probably like four thousand calories at least. And uh did not feel well after that, so that's the one sticking sticks in my mind. Sarah, what gross thing of you to tell us? Sarah 18:58 Large thin crust pizza with dum From dominoes with multiple toppings, and it's not just that I ate the whole thing, it's that I've done it multiple times, and I'm admitting it. as a Brooklynite that I still order Dominoes. Tara 19:11 Mm, mm, yeah Sarah 19:12 But sometimes that thin crust, I don't know. You just need it. Dave 19:15 I could eat a whole pizza at any time. Tara 19:17 Yeah, same. Dave 19:17 I feel like you should get a pass for pizza. Tara 19:19 It's true. Dave 19:20 Yeah. Sarah 19:20 Yeah, it's true. Dave 19:21 Dr. Calhoun, what's in your wallet? I have $74, three credit cards, driver's license, my Blue Cross Blue Shield card. A Costco card, which I just realized I don't need because one of my credit cards is also my Costco membership card. Tara 19:36 Yes, it is Dave 19:37 So I can l remove that one and have Such a lighter wallet in my future. But I don't have any photos or any doodads or any mementos. Straight business transactional wallet. Sarah. Sarah 19:52 Driver's license, vaccine record, which I still am insisting they update with a pen. A bunch of illegible receipts, six to eight credit cards, dozens of store credit cards and punch cards from coffee places that went out of business in like 2021. Museum membership cards, 10 business cards for the bookshop, and 60 American dollars. Dave 20:11 Wow. Uh stanza. Sarah 20:16 Mm-hmm. Tara 20:17 Mine is worse. I uh some point culled a whole bunch of cards, but they're still in my wallet. They're just in like a back pocket. I still have Canadian cash in my wallet. Have not been there in several years. Dave 20:28 What the fuck is going on here? Tara 20:29 I don't know, I got all this stuff. Dave 20:31 Look, we got some free time coming up. Let's clean that wallet. Tara 20:33 Yeah. Dave 20:34 What else you got in there? Tara 20:35 Oh, like do you remember when my parents gave you a Bloomingdale's gift card for one Christmas so that you could get the jeans that you don't wear anymore? Dave 20:42 I don't. Tara 20:42 I still have that in my wallet. Dave 20:44 That's how long ago it was. I don't. Tara 20:46 We lived in New York. That's how long ago it was. Dave 20:48 Fifteen years ago. Tara 20:49 Yeah. Sarah 20:50 Yep. Tara 20:50 No, it's it's a lot of stuff. Dave 20:52 Wow. Tara 20:52 There's a lot of bullshit in my wallet. Sarah 20:53 Mm-hmm. Dave 20:55 Jesus Christ. Alright. Rube Goldberg has one just for Sarah. Sarah, have you engaged with banana ball at all? Sarah. Sarah 21:03 Uh, yes, of course Dave 21:05 What is Banana Ball, please? Remind me. Sarah 21:07 Um, it's the Savannah Bananas. It's basically like I don't even know, like not WWE but in baseball form, but it's like Tara 21:15 No, it's like Harlem Globetrotters of Yeah. Sarah 21:17 The banana trotters, yes, exactly. Dave 21:18 Ah, okay. Gotta gotta gotta get Sarah 21:20 I think it's really brilliant and like sort of necessary I've said before that it has that Globetrotters wrestling vibe, and I think it's vital to remind fans that A, baseball is a game and not just a vehicle for getting you addicted to online gambling But also it's an entertainment product and now that baseball has succumbed to the fan dulification of everything in American culture. a more not a a K fame, I guess, idea of the sport is somehow purer in that way and it's kinda nice and it's just like Joyous, people have fun, people like it. It's part of what makes any sport lasting and communal to enjoy. Tara 22:04 I'll just add this might be in your other remit of True Crime soon because Defector did a story last fall about their official charity. And some questions that people had about what money was going where. Sarah 22:17 Oh yes, I believe I linked that on Best Evidence, cause yeah. Tara 22:18 So Yeah, so we'll link that in the show notes here. Sarah 22:24 Yeah Dave 22:25 All right, Jovial Jen has our next one. What would the cozy mystery miniseries called Stayin' Alive A Small Town Murder be about? Sarah D. Bunting, resident true crime expert, what is it about? Sarah 22:37 Okay, I sort of want Dave to read mine so that he speaks it into existence because he has a better batting average about that stuff than I do, but here is my idea. It's John Travolta's Tulsa King, except instead of Tulsa Oklahoma, it's Summit, New Jersey, where the Tiny Summit Playhouse is putting on a jukebox musical version of Saturday Night Fever. Travolta plays Joey Mazilli, a disgraced former heartthrob who runs the playhouse but somehow never gets cast in its productions, which is why Tara 23:05 Mm Sarah 23:06 When a disco ball crashes to the stage during tech and kills the lead and the understudy, he is the prime suspect. At least that's what retired chief of police and tone deaf aspiring regional thespian Randy Disher thinks and this monk verse crossover. Yes, I spent way too long on this idea. I now require the universe to hear my plea. Tara Tara 23:28 In a sleeping bedroom town on Long Island, a Defunct Pizza Hut is revived as a retro discotheque where the body of the town's best dancer is discovered with a platform sandal halfway down his throat. Dave. Dave 23:42 I don't know what the start of this is, but because this is the first thing I think about when I hear staying alive is that skip to the end and the murderer is the guy that teaches CPR. Sarah 23:55 Okay. Dave 23:56 Towering Monolith! Everybody loved Robbie the Robot's appearance on Columbo. What famous robot Yes, quotes. Loved. What famous robot should be a guest star in one of today's police procedurals? Tar. Tara 24:12 I went with not a particular famous robot, but a class of famous robot. And in mine On high potential, Ludo gifts Morgan Arumba and Elliot gets obsessed with training it to clean the house in the most efficient possible way. Sarah. Sarah 24:28 Oh I'd love that, I'd like to see it This could be a complete tonal misfire, but that's so often true of each of these shows separately, so I am sending the Buffy Bot. to Law and Order SVU, I think they could actually be really helpful at collecting evidence, going undercover with suspected perpetrators, and liaising with VICAP via Wi-Fi. Not sure how you sell executive producer Hargate on this idea, but it could happen. Dave. Dave 24:57 Well, Sarah, this one is also for your Law and Order peoples. This is a robot called Stable. And he is taking it impersonally. Sarah 25:11 Oh, that's a winner. Dave 25:12 L A F R, possibly laugher, who's to say? Sarah 25:16 Lafred. Dave 25:17 This is their question. They refuse to let us know how to pronounce it. Oreos, regular stuffed Double stuffed or mega stuffed. Sarah. Sarah 25:28 D, none of the above, hydrox. Dave 25:30 Oh Sarah 25:30 Dave Dave 25:31 Regular most of the time. The mega stuff is super gross. And also it is not one piece of stuff. It is actually just two double stuff stuck together. You look at it, you can see where they have tried to merge them seamlessly Tara 25:40 Yeah. Dave 25:44 But they never do. I was enraged when I saw that. For some reason, even though it's like, you know, the cream you get is the cream you get. The fact that it wasn't just one extruded mega stuff thing weirdly pissed me off. Tara 25:54 Mm-hmm. This regular Dave 25:59 All right, great. Clip 26:01 Enough! I'm so sick and tired of hearing you people talk about food, food, food! Dave 26:05 Alright, this is our ask ask EHG question, which means you have to answer it for us. It comes from Flame Splash. Child actors have been retroactively banned. Recast a show's child characters with adults pretending to be kids 1015 style. That is your question. Go to our Discord channel, AskAss E-H-G, or you can go to our website, go to this episode's page. And sync your Patreon with our site, and then you can answer right there on the forum. You don't need to be on the Discord for that. It is time for the extra Extra Hot Great tiny cannon presenting this week is a very small tar Ariana. Tara 26:47 Yes, it is. When your co-hosts were kids in the early 80s, well before any of us were interested in magazines as consumers, with the possible exception of Dynamite and Bananas. We knew what the National Inquirer was from being present when groceries were purchased for our various households. We might have Been shocked by the kind of news it was breaking about dead Elvis, alive Elizabeth Taylor, and countless other celebrities we may have first become aware of from reading their names on the tabloids' various covers. My own mother, who mostly did the shopping, was not a regular inquirer reader, although I have a dim memory of her picking it up as an illicit treat on vacation sometimes, but otherwise Six or seven-year-old me would have no regular truck with the Inquirer until clip one. Clip 27:37 How do Kenny Rogers, his wife, and her ex-husband live together in harmony? Inquiring minds wanna know. I wanna know. How has a new love for Duke star Catherine Bach turned her only life around? This week's National Inquirer tells you, how can watching fish lower your blood pressure? How can the New York City Diet Plan help you lose weight tastefully? It's in the Inquirer. What makes TV comedy stars laugh their way to the pike? Find out in the inquirer over 100 features for people with inquiring minds. Like me. Tara 28:04 By the way, once I started, I couldn't stop watching these. There's so many of them on YouTube, and multiples of them have Kenny Rogers headlines for whatever reason. So What the listener can't see in this representative clip from 1982 unless they watch it, and you can, the links for every ad you're gonna hear in this segment are in the show notes. is a series of hastily shot or animated vignettes illustrating the stories the excitable narrator is describing. The Statue of Liberty getting snatched thanks to the New York City diet, with, of course, the outline of the Twin Towers behind her. a bunch of stills of T V comedy stars stacked in the back of an armored car on their way to the bank. The ad closes with a row of readers holding copies of the very issue that's being advertised. Hot off the presses. Sorcery. And you can tell from the way it looks, this was not green screen. Those were real copies that the actors were really holding. And you would think by this point in history that someone would have done an oral history of this campaign or at the very least made a Wikipedia page for it. Apparently no one has. I don't know if the inquirer made a new ad for every single issue, but it sure felt like they did What I know for certain is they continued to make ads in this format in 1983, Clip Two. Clip 29:20 What's the courageous story behind Catherine Hepburn's secret battle to walk again? Inquiring minds wanna know. I wanna know. Has George C. Scott drafted Allie as a romantic ally this week's national inquiry? How can Billy Graham change you from lonely to loved? Can you give into chocolate desserts without giving up your diet? It's in the enquirer. How is Elvis's ghost brightening spirits in Graceland? Find out in the Inquirer. Over 100 features for people with inquiring minds. Like me. Tara 29:46 And into nineteen eighty-six, clip three Clip 29:52 How was a photographer injured in a brawl with Madonna's bodyguards? Inquiring minds want to know. I want to know. Will Jeff and Fallon's marriage be The TV wedding of the year? This week's National Inquirer tells you what are two surefire tricks to become more creative. It's in the inquirer. How can you tell if your mate really loves you? Find out in the inquirer over 100 features for people with. Like me. Tara 30:18 What the hell? Who said that man could have an inquiring mind in the middle of that one? Dave 30:22 I like the idea that the inquirer has a list of people and they know who your mate is and you have to look it up in the table to see if they love you. Tara 30:30 Yes, this issue is the size of a phone book. They were still doing it in 1987, clip four. Clip 30:38 Why did Lee Akoka file for divorce only eight months after the wedding? Inquiring minds want to know. I want to know. Who is Michael J. Fox's new love? This week's National Inquirer tells you do people who use Artificial sweeteners gain weight? What are 10 ways to make housework easier? It's in the inquirer. Will Tina Turner marry a young German executive? Find out in this week's Inquirer. Over 100 features for people with inquiring minds. Like me. Tara 31:04 Just a couple of notes on that one. Michael J. Fox's alleged new love at this time was Sarah Jessica Parker. And Tina Turner did marry that young German executive. He was 16 years younger than she was. They met in 1986, but they did not get married until 2013. So the campaign was sufficiently popular that it was spoofed on SNL clip five. Clip 31:27 This week in the Inquiry. Did Bing Crosby really beat his kids? Inquiring minds want to know. Aging movie queen Gloria Swanson finally died. Is she going to heaven? Or straight to hell? Find out about Lauren Green's secret struggle against body odor. It's an exclusive in this week's inquiry. And what about vomit? Is it the wonder fuel of the future? And dead superstar puck weaker. Did he have a monkey on his back? Find out in this week's inquiry. For people with employer modes like me. Tara 32:00 It's very gross as Alpha Alpha. So when I went looking for the campaign's history I found Inquiring Minds Want to Know the Phrase referenced in a Time magazine report from September 1996. I found it in a Huff Post piece from 2016. A Quora question from October 2020, which mistakenly asked which TV news show the phrase came from, and an article referencing the slogan from the field school in 2024. Inquiring Minds is the title of Netflix's documentary about the history of the magazine. If you say Inquiring Minds Wanna Know to ten Gen Xers, I'm gonna say nine of them would reflexively reply, I wanna know. Sarah 32:39 Mm-hmm. Tara 32:39 With a campaign this successful, you might think the National Enquirer had realized they'd found their good to the last drop or double AA beep beep. MCO and ridden it for the rest of our lives, but apparently the National Air Inquirer was not immune to the advertising trends of the late 80s. And in 1988, its throwback jingle accompanied by golden hour lighting of wholesome Americans gathering around sketchily sourced gossip, we got this clip six. Clip 33:07 Princess Die blasts Heartless Fergie for deserting her new baby. Enquire within. We've got what you want, the way that you want it. TV's designing women's star Delta Burke warned lose weight or be fired in fire with it top secret Dallas photos of JR in prison 19 million people be authority for a plan because we've got the choice Dave 33:37 That sounds like a commercial for cereal that has a lot of brand in it. Tara 33:41 Oh yes, I was gonna say or salad dressing. Sarah 33:42 Mm, yep. Dave 33:43 Yep. Tara 33:44 Like it could be for anything. So obviously we can agree this format is a huge downgrade from the boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo. Sarah 33:52 Mm-hmm. Tara 33:52 But I hope we can also agree the campaign that preceded it, one still being referenced in media in this decade, 40 years later, belongs in the tiny commercial canon. Dave 34:05 All right, thank you, Sarah. Start us up. Sarah 34:08 I could not agree more. This was a slam dunk for me the second I saw it in the episode syllabus, but I had forgotten so many parts of it that came flooding back The second I heard that doo-doo doo doo doo doo, which is I think supposed to sound computer-y and science-y, it was cheesy animation, but for its time, and given that they were slapping it together like Tara 34:19 Yep. Mm-hmm Sarah 34:30 every week. Tara 34:30 Yeah Sarah 34:31 It was pretty good. The I Wanna Know tag, which even as a kid, I was like, no man wants to know. the slander within that just like made up shit about Elvis' ghost is like propulsive journalism and it is Tara 34:45 Yeah Sarah 34:48 critical that you mentioned how many kids at that time were using that tagline at King Supermarket or Acme to get their mothers to buy it for them. Like, mom, you know, it's like you're always saying reading is fundamental, and it's like Tara 35:07 Nice try Sarah 35:07 Yeah, but this is and also like it was such cheap newsprint and just tawdry. I hope that there is at least one history, oral or otherwise, of the National Enquirer and like not against the weekly world news, but like that the National Enquirer sort of went legit with true crime shows on investigation discovery, with whatever, the worst catch-and-kill culprits of the twenty-first century, absolutely, and it's like not ethical to consume their quote journalism, but they were breaking true crime news in the late nineties And they had this opportunity to be kind of vanguards and the direction they went with it was uh pretty gross. Um, but anyway, I I'm shocked that this is not in the tidy cannon already. I think it's only because we just started doing the Tiny Canon relatively recently Tara 36:03 Mm-hmm. Sarah 36:03 This was an excellent, excellent presentation. And now when I see the National Enquirer, it's like, oh, I could just I could just buy this. Tara 36:12 mhm, mhm, Sarah 36:12 It's one of the great things about being an adult. Like, you don't need permission to buy the the trashy tab. You just can buy the globe, and it's like, you know, JFK alive and well and living in his own museum in Hyannis, Massachusetts like, sure, why not? Dave 36:27 Mm-hmm Sarah 36:28 Thank you so much for bringing this back into our lives. Tara 36:31 You're so welcome. And I really encourage everyone if you're into this, like someone should just string them all together. They don't have to be in order. But if there was like a three-hour supercut of it, I would probably like just put it on just to see like which names keep coming up because there was more than one Billy Graham as well. Sarah 36:41 Oh my god. Dave 36:41 Yeah. Yeah. Sarah 36:47 Oh my God, why? Dave 36:48 And I think on the magazine cover, Hitler was spotted about ten times during its run. Tara 36:52 No doubt. Sarah 36:53 Mm-hmm. Dave 36:54 Hitler alive living in X country. Sarah 36:54 Yep Tara 36:56 Mm-hmm. Dave 36:56 And then the country's always different. Tara 36:57 Yes. Dave 36:57 He's always on the run. Tara 36:58 Yeah, well Sarah 36:59 Mm-hmm. Dave 36:59 I think the music that you're talking about, Sarah, is supposed to be like a little of its time new show. Tara 37:05 Yeah. Dave 37:06 Like it's supposed to be evocative of that. Because like all the new stuff, like it moved from the t- t to like this Sarah 37:08 Mm-hmm. Dave 37:13 Cynthia eighties crap. Um so I think maybe it's trying to do that. I never bought any of these magazines, but the one that I always gravitated to looking at while I was with my mother at the register was weekly world news for Bat Boy. Tara 37:25 Of course. Sarah 37:26 Mm-hmm. Tara 37:26 Mm-hmm. Dave 37:27 Bat Boy, who's my favorite. Sarah 37:27 Bad boy, sure. Dave 37:29 I was just looking at some Bat Boy covers. Uh here's a good one. Bat Boy joins up, and it's a picture of Bat Boy. You know what Bat Boy looks like, except he's got an American flag. Tara 37:37 Yeah. Dave 37:39 Do rag on. Tara 37:40 Amazing Dave 37:40 Half human, half bat walks into marine base and volunteers to fight evildoers. Tara 37:46 Thanks, bad boy. Dave 37:47 And they always use the exact same photo for Bat Boy. Tara 37:49 Mm-hmm Dave 37:50 It's fantastic and they just accessorize him now and then. Sarah 37:53 He just looks like Eddie Haskell, it's really amazing. Dave 37:56 Bat Boy leads cops on three-state chase. Tara 37:59 Sure. Dave 38:01 Unfortunately, I don't think they advertised on TV. But yeah, this is great. Tara 38:04 No, Dave 38:05 It immediately took me back. This is something I had not thought about in years. But as soon as that those first notes Hit you. You're like, oh no. Tara 38:13 Mm-hmm. Dave 38:13 The thing that we can't show you, of course, is the graphics here. And I would describe them as proto super budget sledgehammer videos made in two days. Sarah 38:24 Yes, uh huh. Tara 38:24 Yeah, yeah, mm hmm Dave 38:25 It's got that sort of ambition, but you've got twelve dollars to make it happen, guy That is the thing. And they do a really good job. Like it really does feel like there's a high school collage project going on here and they're just slapping together. Sarah 38:36 Yeah Dave 38:41 Because this is a weekly publication, right? Tara 38:43 Yes, yes Dave 38:44 And that's impressive on its own that they're actually getting this to market that fast. Sarah 38:44 Is it Dave 38:49 Like I feel like as soon as the um It uh I forget what you call it when it's ready to print. There's a word for it. But as soon as that happens, there's like a guy and he talks like this and he's like, Alright Jimmy, here's the paper, get it over to a video guy, and he's like, Yes sir, Mr. Tara 39:03 Mm-hmm Dave 39:04 Inquir, and he like runs over and they start making the video. and have to get it out twelve hours later. Sarah 39:09 Mr. Inquirer, love it. Dave 39:12 That's his name, right? Just fantastic. And what a world we used to live in. That new campaign, the Inquirer Within campaign, really feels like they're trying to make people not feel bad about reading trash. That is the new take. They got a marketing directive is people are embarrassed to hold this newspaper in public now And now this is going to be like, no, we're all together on this. We all just like we want to it yeah, exactly. Sarah 39:35 It's family time, totally Tara 39:36 Yeah Dave 39:38 Like it's okay. Everybody reads these. Tara 39:40 Mm-hmm. Dave 39:40 You know, it's okay. You can go to the steakhouse near the highway. It's fine. Tara 39:45 Yeah, but the people they show reading it are like a woman in the middle of throwing a garage sale, like two nurses at the station at the hospital, like reading it behind the counter at the, you know Dave 39:56 I was gonna say everybody in these commercials that are doing the talk to the camera stuff looks like they work at a dental office. Tara 40:02 Yes. And yet, in all of the different ones that I've watched, and like I said, I watched probably a dozen, I did not see the same inquiring mind in any of them. So they had like just It was new people coming in all the time. Dave 40:14 People are lining up to be in this. Tara 40:16 Apparently, they wanna know. Dave 40:16 It's their big break. Sarah 40:17 Mm-hmm. I would have Dave 40:18 What if you watch all of them and you actually spotted a real celebrity that had a breakout later? Tara 40:19 Yeah. Oh my god, that would be amazing. Dave 40:24 That would be great. Tara 40:25 Yeah. Sarah 40:25 Or someone that you knew in life. Tara 40:26 Or that, yes Sarah 40:27 It's like, wow. Dave 40:28 That's right. Uh she's dead now. Sarah 40:30 Didn't know you lived near the near the press. Dave 40:32 That's that one that one fell to Bat Boy. Sarah 40:33 Amazing. Dave 40:36 All right. I say it's time to vote. Sarah D. Bunting, what do you say about Inquiring Minds Want to Know campaign for the commercial cannon? Sarah 40:42 Oh my god, I wanna know. I want you to know that my vote is yes. Dave 40:46 Yeah, mine too. So Inquiring Minds want to know you are hereby inducted into the Extra Hot Great tiny commercial cannon. Clip 40:58 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Dave 41:07 It is time to discover our not quite top 11 lists. I will go first with the not-quite top 13 TV show titles from the 1950s that sound like desperate current-day reality TV shovelware. Tara 41:20 Amazing. Mm-hmm. Dave 41:21 Acrobat Ranch. Tara 41:23 Yeah. Dave 41:24 Can you top this? Community Auditions. Dinner date. Tara 41:30 Mm-hmm. Dave 41:31 Federal men Hold that camera. I cover Times Square. Life begins at 80. Mama Rosa. Menasha the Magnificent Penthouse Party and finally Windy City Jamboree. Tara 41:49 Uh Sarah 41:50 Uh Hmm. Lot of uh crossover here with the TV titles that should be about farts. Dave 42:00 That's true. Sarah 42:02 Not quite 11 TV shows that should recast key roles with John Legend in uh alphabetical order, and no, none of these makes any sense. Number one, angel as Lorne slash the host. Number two, cheers as either Paul or Phil, the tertiary dudes at the Cliff Norm end of the bar, which puts them near the bar's piano. Number three, Chrissy's Court as Chrissy. Number four, Doctor Who as the Doctor. Number five, ER as the helicopter. You're welcome, Dave. Number six. FELLICITI as Julius. Number seven, Game of Thrones as Joffrey Baretheon. Number eight, Law and Order Criminal Intent, as Detective Zack Nichols, i. e. the Goldblum character who played the piano. Number nine, Top Chef Last Chance Kitchen, which now just has a grand piano in between the cooking area and the pantry, which adds a degree of difficulty to all the sprinting around. And number ten, Unsolved Mysteries, as the theme song. Dave 43:07 Is John Legend the guy that can't stop having kids? Tara 43:10 No, that's Nick Cannon. Dave 43:11 Oh, Nickana, okay. Tara 43:13 John Lend is legend is the one who's married to Chrissy Teagan and looks like a baby. Dave 43:18 Okay. Tara 43:18 He does. Look at look him up, you'll see. It's got a real baby face. It's not an insult. Sarah 43:22 Mm-hmm. Tara 43:23 I have brought the not quite top eleven TV show titles that kind of sound like legends, exclusing Excluding the other show called Legends that was on TNT in twenty fourteen, as previously mentioned. Dave 43:33 He does have a baby face. Tara 43:34 I know! So I said it! Dave 43:35 With a with a beard. Sarah 43:36 Yeah, mm-hmm, yeah. Tara 43:37 Yeah These are ranked from kind of sounds like legends the least to kind of sounds like legends the most. Dave 43:44 Okay. Tara 43:44 I'm just gonna go quickly Longmire, loaded, Lovejoy, Lab Rats, Lou Grant, Lancer, Laughin, Ladhood, Lenny, Lidzville, Ludwig, Leverage, Legwork, Lingo Land Girls, Landman, Legmen, Legion, Legendary, and Legend Singular. Thank you. Dave 44:05 I enjoyed that. All right, buckle in. It's time for the green screen. Stephanie 44:14 Welcome to the Green Screen, the bi-monthly segment in which I, Stephanie Green, take you through the reality television that is taking up my valuable and limited brain space. While I've spent significant time in past segments frolicking in the garden of delights and horrors that is Discovery Plus, this month I'd like to venture into the fruitful plains of the Bravo verse. I'm a longtime Bravoholic, having gotten in on the ground floor, so to speak, of the Real Housewives of Orange County when it premiered in March 2006. And having for the last two decades ridden that godforsaken elevator all the way down into the depths of Bravo's programming. I've watched it all Blowout, Sheer Genius, Tabitha Takes Over, Millionaire Matchmaker, Southern Charm and Southern Hospitality, Shaz of Sunset, Family Karma, Million Dollar Listing, Top Chef, Workout and other shows that are now confined to the dustbin of history. But the Housewives franchises are truly the flagship properties of the Bravo verse, the unstable planets around which many lesser moons orbit. There have been many iterations of the Housewives, set in many cities, countries, and, in the case of Potomac, otherwise unremarkable towns that are chosen as stand-ins for a larger metro area. Some of these franchises have flourished for years, even decades, while others were but bright explosions like dying stars. Of course, what makes one franchise a success versus another is more of an art than a science but there are certain necessary components. Perhaps the most valuable variable is cast cohesion, meaning how the cast members' different brands of crazy, gel and or clash, and whether or not the audience buys the premise that these people actually knew each other pre filming. There also must be sufficient drama to sustain storylines over several seasons. And finally, there's the question of regional interest. Setting a Housewives franchise in a lesser known or, dare I say, dull city or region has its risks I'm amazed, for example, that the Real Housewives of Dallas lasted five seasons, given the utter blandness of its backdrop. So when I heard that Bravo was coming out with the Real Housewives of Rhode Island, I was trepidatious Not because Rhode Island itself is boring, but because I wasn't sure there was enough to differentiate a Housewives franchise set there from, say, one set in New Jersey. But after watching the first four episodes, I must say I'm cautiously optimistic about Rhode Island's future as a classic Housewise franchise. Here's what the show has going for it. First and most importantly, I buy that most of these ladies actually knew each other pre-filming. That's mostly because, as we find out in the first episode, everyone in the state of Rhode Island knows one another. I confirmed this with my friend Jess, a Rhode Island native. She insists that it's literally true that not only does everyone know everyone else, but everyone lives within max a 15-minute drive of each other. This is already a great starting point for a housewife show, but Bravo really nailed the casting too. Here we have a delightful array of nutcases, including Alicia, a pizza entrepreneur who works out every day to Jane's Fonda Kelsey, a former Miss Rhode Island USA, who rattles around a sixteen thousand square foot mansion while her boyfriend is in Miami half the year with his other girlfriend. Ashley, whose light stalking and hysteria work I was already familiar with from The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise, and Jo Ellen, an absolute psycho who married her sister's boyfriend. These ladies all know and spread the gossip about each other's hound dog husbands and boyfriends, they have fascinating accents, and they're introducing us to such local delicacies as pizza chips. Which appear to be rectangles of pizza minus the cheese, but which my Rhode Island correspondent Jess assures me are a delicious beach snack So if you're looking to get into or get back into the Housewives, but feel intimidated by the idea of trying to catch up on the lore of the long-running ones, there's nothing better than starting fresh with a brand new franchise And this one I think might go the distance, i. e. 15 minutes driving time. Well, that's all for this month. See you next time for another installment of the green screen. Clip 48:17 And there ain't no nothing we can't love each other through What would we do, baby? Dave 48:28 Shalalala Tara 48:28 Shalom. Sarah 48:32 I think we did a whole extra credit once, unshallah. Dave 48:33 We did Sarah 48:35 Anyway, hello grandpa. Uh there really ain't no nothing we can't get each other through, thanks to you guys. Welcome to this week's Extra Credit. As you know, you missed a whole lot of show already. About 45 minutes of us talking about British true crime, past and present. We talked about infomercials. Tar presented a vintage ad tiny canon, and your inquiring minds must want to know how that went. We'd love to have you, Shalala, lift your commitment to just five bucks a month. You get the whole show, the entire archive, summer road trips are coming up. You could take us along. Please consider bumping up those pledges. We would love to have you. For now, let us get into today's topic. We are power ranking the Family Ties cast. Family Ties is, of course, the iconic 80s Famcom that brought us Alex P. Keaton. Emmy Bate, Tom Hanks, and of course, Courtney Cox in between that Springsteen video. And friends, we're just gonna do the top ten. That's Michael J. Fox, who played Alex P. Keaton, Michael Gross, who played his father Stephen, Meredith Baxter at that time, Baxter Bernie. played his mother Elise, Justine Bateman as the middle sibling, Ditzy Mallory, Tina Yawthers as the youngest for a while, Jennifer Brian Bonsall, the designated Atta baby Andrew, Mark Price as Pesty neighbor Skippy, Scott Valentine as Mallory's boyfriend, I think, later husband. And Courtney Cox is the second primary Alex Love Interest, Lauren, wrapping up with Tracy Pollen, Michael J. Fox's IRL wife, and the first primary Alex Love Interest, Ellen We will go in IMDB order, and here's how the power ranking math works. Our respective number ones in the rankings get 10 points, second place gets 9, so on down the line. A little arithmetic later, yes I built a spreadsheet for this, shut up. We'll be able to see who still got the juice four decades after the show's heyday and who is basically a trivia question. Not sure there's going to be a ton of suspense here since we're starting with Michael J. Fox, but let's talk it through. Shall we start with Tara? Tara 50:50 Fox definitely had Past Dance, the biggest movie career of anyone in the cast. Of course, that all changed once he had his Parkinson's disease diagnosis. Even so, post that he's still popping up in well-regarded shows from The Good Wife and The Good Fight to multiple episodes of shrinking as recently as this season, like earlier this year. Playing Michael J. The Fox in Zootopia 2. Cute. And we'll always have him voicing a kidney in Clone High. But nevertheless, I have ranked him third for eight points Dave 51:25 I just want to say from the get-go, I feel like this list is split exactly in two, which are Tara 51:30 Yeah, kinda Dave 51:31 People I can rank and people that I want to, but I will not because Sarah got really mad at me last time. Sarah 51:32 Yeah Dave 51:37 Tie for last. I'm not gonna do that. I'll make some declarations about who's who. Yes, everything that Tara said, he is the one person here that had a really big movie career. Obviously, his diagnosis put a damper on how many things he can be in since then. But he seems to be still in demand, and I am happy for him for that. But I think there's one person that is going to beat Michael J. Fox in current power ranking. So I'm putting him number two. Tara 52:05 For nine points. Dave 52:05 Nine points Tara 52:07 Sarah Sarah 52:08 That is where I had him also. I think he has maintained a surprising amount of juice. You know, he was on Spin City, he was on the Michael J. Fox show, which I own only I cared about, like even other people who were in it are like that thing. Dave 52:23 Isn't Bunk in that? Yeah. Sarah 52:25 Yes, which is I think why I watched it. We covered it on previously and then it just kind of died. Dave 52:30 Did they have a parody scene of the fox scene from The Wire in that? Tara 52:34 If only it might still be on Dave 52:35 That would be great. Sarah 52:36 Maybe a few years later there would have been hope. Um, I'm glad I'm not the only person to shout out the kidney. He really got a lot into a single horse line. Tara 52:44 I miss him Sarah 52:45 Uh, and I think he's been uh an excellent ambassador for trying to get money raised for Parkinson's research um and other neurological diseases or chronic illnesses. So yeah, I mean You know, there's only so much juice this diagnosis would allow, I think. So I also had him in second place with nine points. Alright, moving on to Michael Gross, who played Stephen Keaton, and Back to Tara Tara 53:14 Yeah, he uh spent some time post-family ties acting against type in things like the Tremors franchise, which by the way was still extant as of 2020. That was news to me. He also played, I think, Carter's dad on ER and he popped up here and there. Sarah 53:29 Yes Tara 53:31 He continued doing guest shots of that level and stuff like suits and SVU and AP bio. It has now downshifted into his Christmas TV movies era, including The Merry Gentleman with Chad Michael Murray, which we talked about on our sister podcast Again With Again With This Sarah 53:45 Yep Tara 53:46 That feels like it's probably semi-retirement, but I'm sure it's very comfortable and easy and fun. Um, I have him in fourth place for seven points. Dave. Dave 53:55 Dude is 78. Tara 53:56 Mm-hmm. Dave 53:57 Damn. So his last role in that tremors, last tremors thing he was in, he was like still over 70 and doing stuff. So good for him. I feel like he's he's actually got the most longevity out of a lot of these actors, so that is sort of surprising and good for him. Tara 54:10 Yeah Dave 54:12 And I like that he's doing Hallmark stuff now. I just feel like that's a nice lane for him, you know, playing the kind dad, probably, I'm gonna guess. Tara 54:19 Mm-hmm. Dave 54:20 Just wants the best for his daughter. Tara 54:21 Mm-hmm. Dave 54:22 That guy over there, I didn't like him at first, but he's growing on me. That marketing executive, that pumpkin pie maker. Tara 54:29 Mm-hmm. Dave 54:30 He was great in Tremors, opposite um Ariba McIntyre. Surprisingly so, playing a survivalist couple that are just like totally into it. That was a good movie. The first one. I've never seen anything of ov beyond the first one. But the Kevin Bacon Fred Ward one, fantastic. Tara 54:45 It is good Dave 54:46 Yep. I am surprisingly, when I saw his name, I thought, Oh yeah, Michael Gross. Hmm. Probably in the second half. But no, I put him at four. Number four Tara 54:55 For seven points. Sarah 54:56 That's exactly where I had him, so it's a triple seven Tara 54:59 Oh boy Sarah 55:00 Uh for Mr. Gross, yeah, he's had a bunch of guest shots. He is in that hallmark lane now. He also was on Young and the Restless for a while. He has that patrician look, but also like a little bit of a weak chin. He just has a certain look that means he's always gonna work at whatever age and however much he wants to. Little trivia he has the exact same birthday as uh his on screen wife and family ties, Ms. Meredith Baxter we'll be talking about next. But yeah, I had him in fourth place at seven points. I think he'll work as much as he wants to, and I hope that's exactly what he's doing. Dave 55:35 That's why on set they were known as the cake savers. Sarah 55:39 Mm-hmm. Dave 55:42 That's right. Tara 55:42 Mm-hmm, yeah Sarah 55:42 That's good trivia. All right, Meredith Baxter slash Baxter Burney. Tara, your thoughts? Tara 55:48 Well she came out as queer later in life and we love to see it. Like gross she did the sorts of guest shots you would expect. Um for a while she was in Switched at Birth with a recurring role in Finding Carter, more of those and, you know, that kind of stuff. Sarah 56:01 I know what a weird lane for her to have. Tara 56:03 I know. Well, whatever. Sarah 56:05 Yeah. Tara 56:05 You know, MTV and Freeform were having their own originals then. Sarah 56:08 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Tara 56:10 She also did a Christmas movie in 2020, but she's Again up there, hasn't been on screen since 2021. Uh so I have her just behind gross, fifth place for six points. Dave. Dave 56:20 Yeah, me too. She's at the bottom of the people that I would be able to rank confidently. And after after her, I'm like, mm. So, yeah, exactly. All the same things you said. She seems to be fully retired now and good for her, whereas Michael Gross is still banging out some holiday stuff. So just under him, also five. Sarah 56:41 Yeah, she I think had the most impressive career prior She was in All the Prisons Men. She was on Family for a long time. She was like credits cast on that. But after Family Ties Less. Uh visible perhaps, less prestige than Michael Gross, but of course, famous original Betty Broderick not being ignored, Dan. Tara 57:01 Yeah. Sarah 57:03 She's really good in that, and she had a true crime lane that I think uh set her up pretty well to have a vacation house uh all paid off. At this point it was kind of a toss-up between these two, but I also had her in fifth place with six points. All right. The Bateman. Justine Bateman, who played Mallory, I think maybe doesn't get enough credit on that show, and perhaps not afterwards, but Tara, what did you think of Justine Bateman? Tara 57:30 She was once very important to me personally as a teen style icon in the Denise Huxtable vein. Sarah 57:36 Mm, mm Tara 57:38 She hilariously played Michael's maybe sister in a pretty edgy arrested development that flirted with incest. She wrote a memoir a few years ago that I think was well regarded at the time, but she lost the plot during the strikes earlier this decade and turned into a total Twitter crank. No doubt torching whatever might be have been left of her career. Um so I have her in tenth place for one point. I don't think anyone is giving her anything now. Sarah 58:03 Oh, wow Tara 58:05 So that's where she is. For me. Dave. Dave 58:08 Well, I put her third, and I did have this notion that she, you know, had an oopsie doodle some point during the pandemic, and yes, that is what it was. Sarah 58:08 Uh-huh. Dave 58:18 But Sarah 58:19 It's a technical term. Dave 58:21 If uh what's her nuts, Gina Carano, or w can still get work Tara 58:25 Yeah. I guess Dave 58:28 Then I think Justine Bateman can still get work. And she's been noodling around. She's got three things in production right now. She seems to have moved over to the behind the scenes stuff, directing, producing, so Perhaps she can fly under the radar a little bit more when she's not on screen. So she still seems to be working. I think the scope of who she can work with is a lot smaller now. Tara 58:49 Yeah Dave 58:50 But compared to my bottom half, I still think she has a lot more juice. So and she's still got years ahead of her. So I'm gonna put her number three. Tara 58:58 Okay, eight points Sarah 58:59 I also put her number three. I had forgotten the strike crankery, uh, so I might have ranked her lower had I recalled that, but It just looks based on her IMDB right now and you know, looking at various news updates and projects that she's directed or written, that she's working how she wants and as much as she wants. Yes, the point that perhaps her casting juice has been hamstrung somewhat by her being a weirdo. That point is well taken, but I also had memoir on my list of Reasons why she probably still has juice and, you know, relatives. Like, uh, I don't know if siblings can be Nepo babies, especially when they're the older one. She is, right? Tara 59:46 I think so. Sarah 59:47 This is one of those power rankings that's like you got a pretty firm top two, you got a pretty firm second two, and then everyone else is just this weird. Turrets floating through the punch poles situation. So that's where I put her. Alright, well, uh, this one should probably be pretty easy. Let's move on to Tina Yawthers. Tara, your thoughts on Jennifer, the third Keaton sibling. Tara 01:00:14 Mm-hmm. Family ties was kind of the end of the line for her, acting-wise. She came out, I guess, as goth and transitioned into music. It's currently not in entertainment as far as I can tell, so I have her in ninth place for two points. Dave. Dave 01:00:29 All right, yes, she is the first of the bottom half, could be all tied, but let's make sure Sarah's not mad at us and actually make a determination here. I basically went with how well I know them. Sarah 01:00:40 Finally Dave 01:00:43 If somebody said their name today, would I have to like then look them up to figure out who they were. Tiny Yawthers I know mostly because not from Family Ties but because of that transition and for the time pre internet where everybody's like, Yeah, do you know where she is and have you seen pictures of her now? And like, no and like, Oh, what the hell? That's not the girl from Family Ties. Surely you jest. So for that reason, and that reason alone, number six, top of the heap of the second half. Sarah 01:01:11 Okay, so five points. Yeah, I had her in ninth too. It sounds like she tried a bunch of things after family ties, and none of them really worked, as well as her slow transition into Tara 01:01:24 Yeah, Sarah 01:01:26 I don't think she does. I do have to find the TV movie in which she played Tanya Harding because It just sounds too bad to even be believed. But yeah, I had her a second to last. Hasn't gone a sp Especially well for Brian Bonsall all the time, either, but I think he may have turned things around. Tara, where did you put little Andy? Tara 01:01:50 Uh, it looks like he had good management in his Family Times era, Family Ties rather, that capitalized on opportunities that were available to cute kids when he was Sarah 01:02:01 Mm-hmm Tara 01:02:01 one. His career went fallow from about nineteen ninety-four until the twenty teens. He may be trying to get something going again, but it's hard to tell from the evidence. So I have him in eighth place for three points. Dave. Dave 01:02:14 I don't know anything about him. I couldn't even tell you what that character is in the show. Is he the cousin Oliver of the show? Tara 01:02:20 Yeah, he was the later later surprise baby. Dave 01:02:21 Okay. Sarah 01:02:22 Kind of. Dave 01:02:23 And I don't know anything about him today, but I'm just gonna tell you I'm gonna put good money that he's a crypto bro. Sarah 01:02:24 Yeah Dave 01:02:28 I just got a feeling. Tara 01:02:29 Yeah, mhm, yeah Dave 01:02:30 Just got a feeling. Sarah 01:02:31 Could be. Dave 01:02:32 I put him number seven Sarah 01:02:33 Uh I had him dead last just because I can't with neck tattoos. That that is part of it. Here is a he has struggled with substance misuse. I think he has turned that around one day at a time, of course. We wish him well. But here's a wild story that's like not his fault. It's just wild. He met this guy in jail. I think they were like not friends or anything, but this guy got out of jail and impersonated Brian Bonsall in order to lure women as targets and this guy is a serial rapist. He is now in jail, I think, forever, but like what a thing to carry around with you. Then you met this then you met this dude in jail and he was just like, I can use that, and then he did. Shudder. Anyway, last place, one point. Let's move on to possibly More positive vibes, Mark Price who played Skippy, the annoying neighbor who was deeply and throbbingly in love with Mallory. Tara, thoughts. Tara 01:03:32 Well, he also had a career as a stand-up while the show was on. I remember seeing him at evening at the improv. That used to be on A E. He's done some writing and producing. He occasionally pops up in a character role. He's like, you know, m more around more recently than a lot of these other people in the bottom half of the rankings, but Sarah 01:03:51 Mm-hmm Tara 01:03:52 is why I have him in sixth place for five points. Dave. Dave 01:03:56 Yeah, so the names of some of these things he's been in the 90s and Tara 01:04:01 And the character names as well. Dave 01:04:02 Killer Tomatoes Eat France exclamation points. Sarah 01:04:03 Oh Dave 01:04:05 Little Devil's The Birth. The Moon and the Star, two R's. Wigged out. Hell's Bells. The Girl Two. Ooh, but not the Girl 1 Witchy ways. Yeah, this is all like extremely off to the side, straight to whatever's below videos sort of things. But I guess he's still there and he is the non-main cast character that I remember the most. So I took pity on him. Put him eighth. Sarah 01:04:31 So that's three points. I had him seventh, four points. I think he is still gigging pretty regularly. He goes out with one-man shows. He's on like But it's like third-tier city casino at the edge of town level. Like Rensselaer Kenosha. No offense to Rensselaer or Kenosha, but he's not it Not failing big houses anymore. That said, I think he's, you know, able to make a scar payment, so that's good enough for seventh place Alright, next up, Scott Valentine, who played Nick, sensitive artist with an earring that was so scandalous, Mallory's boyfriend. Tara 01:05:08 Yeah, mm-hmm Sarah 01:05:10 Tara, what do you think? Tara 01:05:12 Well, his time as a steadily working character actor doing guest shots ended in the early aughts. Since twenty nineteen it's just been shorts, and that was after a nine year gap. So I have him in seventh place. For four points. Dave. Dave 01:05:28 Yeah, the picture of him from Family Ties with the earring, he kind of looks like McGiver. Tara 01:05:32 He does. Sarah 01:05:33 Yeah, he does. Dave 01:05:33 He's got all the hair. Tara 01:05:35 Mm-hmm. Sarah 01:05:35 It was a vibe. Yep. Dave 01:05:37 Yeah. I put him ninth. I will just note that on IMDB, there's a contrast between that headshot and there's a headshot of him more recently where he looks like he's your accountant that is kind of fun to look at. Sarah 01:05:49 Mm-hmm. Tara 01:05:50 Mm-hmm. Sarah 01:05:50 I put him in eighth for three points. Dave 01:05:51 Yeah. Sarah 01:05:52 I found uh I mean evidence Wikipedia. Saying that he's now a managing director at an investment firm. Tara 01:05:59 Oh, good for him. Sarah 01:06:00 To me, that means he can just make project fund projects and put himself in them. So that's juice. of a sort. And I was looking at him. It was driving me nuts. I couldn't think who he reminded me of. And there's this actor, it's a total like procedural Hey, it's that guy, like not above the title credited. Um, his name is Tony Dennison. He was on the closer I think he was also on major crimes. He's played a gangster named like Tony the Nose in a bunch of TV movies. I'm a little surprised. Scott Valentine has that look, and he probably could have locked up something like that. And it's a little surprising that he didn't get like a basic cable show like monk, but uh he didn't, so that's uh that's all I can do for him is uh eighth place. All right. Rounding the clubhouse turn, Courtney Cox. I think the suspense for Where she's gonna go is probably n non-existent, but Tara, talk it through for us. Tara 01:06:59 Yeah, I mean for before I say it, I'll just uh add, I wouldn't have thought she had done more episodes as the Alex Love Interest Lauren than Tracy Pollan did as Ellen. Sarah 01:07:09 Yeah, yeah Tara 01:07:10 But she did. Anyway, i even if all she had ever done was friends in the Scream franchise, she would still be in first place here, but she's done a lot more than that and had a lot of other Long running shows, Cougar Town, and so forth. So I have her, of course, in first place with ten points. Dave. Dave 01:07:25 Yeah, me too. I don't think there's much of a question here. And she's still doing stuff, right? Shining Veil was very recently. Tara 01:07:31 Shining Veil. Sarah 01:07:32 mm Tara 01:07:32 Yep. Dave 01:07:32 Yeah. Tara 01:07:32 Well she was just in the latest Scream movie this year. Dave 01:07:35 When's the dirt revival gonna happen? Tara 01:07:37 Great question. Dave 01:07:38 Yeah. Obvious number one, Sarah. Tara 01:07:40 Yep. Sarah 01:07:41 Yeah, same. I think it might be a different result if, again, Michael J. Fox hadn't had a diagnosis like he had. But um, I mean, she's really had quite an impressive career and is still continuing to. So it's maybe a bit of a step down to end with I feel the canonical Alex girlfriend, even though she had fewer episodes, but his uh real life Bride, Tracy Pollin. Tara, take us home. Tara 01:08:08 Well, she popped up more than you might remember in guest shots on stuff like medium and law and order criminal intent. Sarah 01:08:12 Mm-hmm. Tara 01:08:14 She also was a potential f Oh no, that wasn't her. I have her as a potential Fraser love interest in the one where Neysus Bird dies. But that wasn't her. That was Patricia Wedding from 30 something. Sarah 01:08:25 Mm-hmm Tara 01:08:25 Sorry, Tracy Pollen. Who I think was also in Fraser. Maybe not. Anyway, regardless. I'm gonna still keep her here. More recently she's uh been in with Shondeland, which is a good place to be. She did an episode of Inventing Anna, and she was in the Hallmark movie Holiday touchdown, Colonel A Bill's love story. Dave 01:08:43 Wow. Tara 01:08:44 So Yeah Dave 01:08:44 An actual team. Wow. Sarah 01:08:46 Yeah Dave 01:08:47 Do they do one for every team? Tara 01:08:48 Well, they I know they did one for the Chiefs as well. Dave 01:08:51 Yeah. Tara 01:08:51 Just because she is working slightly more than her husband, I have her in second place for nine points. Dave 01:08:57 I I hate that synergy. Tara 01:08:57 Dave. Dave 01:08:58 I hate the synergy of NFL and Hallmark. Tara 01:09:01 But it's so obvious, of course, they're gonna link up Sarah 01:09:02 Oh yeah Dave 01:09:04 I it does, but if you were in the room with somebody who's genuinely looking forward to that, you'd be scared. Tara 01:09:09 Well, yes, anyway. Dave 01:09:11 Well, uh as far as like power goes, I don't mean to be mean, but let's just say it. There's gonna come a time where where Fox dies and she will have zero juice. Tara 01:09:21 Yes. Sarah 01:09:23 Uh huh Tara 01:09:24 Mm. Dave 01:09:24 I think a lot of the she's not really doing a lot. Tara 01:09:27 Or she'll have more time. Dave 01:09:27 I mean, she's also very busy taking care of her husband. Tara 01:09:30 Yes, she is Dave 01:09:31 So there's that. So I think generally she's not as available as she could be to be working more Tara 01:09:32 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:09:38 But also, you know, she's overshadowed by her husband, obviously. So I think just like not a lot of juice now, probably less in the future. So I put her 10th. Sarah 01:09:48 I had her in sixth with five points because she has done some memorable to me Guest shots in the Law and Order verse. She played Beth Holloway in a true crime miniseries or limited series. And I think now, I mean, their kids are they've been grown, right? So Tara 01:10:06 Yeah Sarah 01:10:07 I think that she may have more time, but I think she is where she wants to be, and there's I mean, there is power in that, I always feel. I guess we shouldn't you apply that to the rankings, but when someone's like not necessarily working that much, but it seems like that's how they want it, I feel like that's power of a sword. So I had her in uh sixth place, five points, and uh yeah, this is um pretty predictable outcome, I would say Tara 01:10:35 All right, here's our final rankings. In last place, we've got Brian Bonsalls, Sarah. Sarah 01:10:41 Eight points, sorry, buddy. Tara 01:10:43 Tied for ninth, we've got Tina Yothers and Scott Valentine. Sarah 01:10:48 With nine points with twelve Tara 01:10:50 Then we jump to seventh because there's a tie, and that's going to be Mark Price. Next after him in sixth place, Tracy Polland. This was the biggest split. Nine from me, one from Dave, five from Sarah. It was almost as far across the board. Dave 01:11:06 Oh, I see. I'm the villain here. Tara 01:11:08 You're not. I'm just saying it's the biggest difference. Dave 01:11:10 At this point I think it's worth saying we do have different ideas about power rankings. Tara 01:11:14 Of course. Dave 01:11:14 We always have. I'm more of the entertainment weekly juice to get things made, and that's just like straight arrow on that. Sarah 01:11:15 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:11:21 And Sarah's got more of a humanistic view of things, you know. Tara 01:11:24 Mm-hmm. I'm not saying anyone's wrong. Sarah 01:11:26 Or Tara 01:11:27 I'm just saying this is the biggest spread. No, I'm not Dave 01:11:29 It feels like I'm the monster. Tara 01:11:30 You're not. She's fine. In fifth place, we've got Justine Bateman. Sarah 01:11:37 Seventeen points. Pollen had fifteen, by the way, before we got sidetracked on Dave's monstrosity. Dave 01:11:41 Sorry, Savvy Tara 01:11:42 Yeah, thank you, Sarah. In fourth place, Meredith Baxter. Sarah 01:11:47 With eighteen with twenty one Tara 01:11:47 In third place, Michael Gross. In second place, we've got Michael J. Fox. Sarah 01:11:55 With twenty-six tens across the board for a perfect score of thirty points. Tara 01:11:57 And of course, first place, Courtney Cox. She did Sarah 01:12:05 We did. Dave 01:12:08 Well guys, that is it for another episode of Extra Extra Hot Gray. We infiltrated the Netflix import legends before answering your burning ask EHG questions. Like What's a thing you ate too much of, and where's Robbie the Robot poppin' up next? Did Tara get the National Inquirer commercials into the tiny cannon? Inquiring mind say yes! We gave you three not quite top 11 lists, Stephanie Washer, Real Housewives of Rhode Island, and we wrapped it all up with a look at the power rankings of family ties. Next up, listener game time on EHG Prime. Remember? Clip 01:12:48 We're listening. Dave 01:12:51 I am David T. Cole and on behalf of Tara Ariano and Sarah D Bunting. Tara 01:12:54 Safe journey home, love. Sarah 01:12:58 Ecstasy, they're calling it. Dave 01:13:00 Thanks for listening and we'll see you next time right here on Extra, Extra Hawk Rate. Clip 01:13:16 What shattering secrets are unlocked by Bill Holden, psychotherapist? This week's National Enquirer tells you, is Yoko starting over with the help of John Lennon's ghost? Can you dry up your cold with a clothe spin? It's in the Inquirer. What hot news shows on the network's cooking up for follow. Find out in the Inquirer. Over 100 features for people with inquiring minds. Like me. Dave 01:13:35 What was it the guy after the yoga auto-oh that's in the inquirer? Tara 01:13:38 Cause it it said can you dry up your cold with a clothespin? He had a clothespin on his nose. Dave 01:13:44 Fantastic. No notes Sarah 01:13:47 I want to do Clip 01:13:50 Today's extra credit topic, Welcome in Grandpa's, comes to us from Erica. The title is Shalala, sorry, and for reasons that will be clear very soon. Pick two drops in the EHG rotation, whether current or long unused. that you would like to hear replace Shalalala at the end of the Family Ties theme song, This is My Edition, a spiritual sequel to the most inappropriate smash cut into the start of the Beverly Hills 902 and oh mini that we did Several years ago. Just a reminder. Unlocking all of those hundreds, literally hundreds of minis is another campaign goal. So extrahot great dot com slash club for more information. All right. How How are we gonna do this? Cause Sarah and I each followed the brief, and Dave has a bunch. So why don't maybe let's do do each of ours and then Dave can do his? Yeah, sure. Let's go with Sarah as we'll play a chunk of the theme. We'll get a little shorter each time for your sanity. What will we do, baby? Without us. And there ain't no nothing and we can't love each other through What will we do, baby? We die Uh-huh. Yep. Alright, here's one we all knew was coming. And there ain't no nothing and we can't love. Yep. Yep. Alright, Tara, you're up. Okay. And there ain't no nothing and we can't love each other through What would we do, baby? Without us Dick Oh that's my friend I just wanna know. I picked that one because it almost scans. It's like, that's my friend, if it was not. But that's not the version we got. Who will fight me? Uh all right. Well, you know, I'm keeper of the clips, so you know, I had I had access to all the past ones. So this is gonna be a journey as we go through. I don't know, I got more than 30, so here we go. I will play for you the ones that are more for the theme. So sounds and singing, not necessarily like something that goes too far afield. So let's start. What would we do who baby with our lost? What would we do? We got us. That's the Brandif South Park uh company stinger. Yep. With ours. We do baby without us. Yeah. Do you know what it is? No. It sounds familiar though. It's the old Paramount TV Stinger. So before they had like the relatively sane one they have now. This is horror-tinged one they all right. This is one of my favorite ones coming up. What will we do to make it without us? Is that a transformer? Wow. Okay. Oh no. Alright, here's here's one for Sarah. But we didn't make it without us. Alright, here's the last of the just music ones. What would we do, baby, without us? Oh no, Speaking of the theme songs that make you go mad, that one. Is there a worse like like real theme song than the Mindy Project, I asked? Really bad. Alright. Awful. And uh here's just the rest of them uh in random order. So here we go. Enjoy folks. Why it's mainly because of the me- Mainly because of the meat. Yes, it's mainly because of the meat. That's one for our Canadian listeners, who are 80. That was Dominion Supermarkets. Someone is biting our daughter! Uh-huh. That was in the mix for me. When we do baby without us. Yeah, okay, fuck it, bye. That was directed straight at Ubu, by the way. Is this because I'm a lesbian? Yes What will we do, baby? Are claims filed against the US Marine Corps? No. No. The Mariana trip. Movie's out next week, Dave. Alright. Oh, I still all right What will we do baseball without us? Promise me you'll never die. You remember where that's from? No! Promise me you'll never die. It's the end of that terrible backdoor pilot from the Golden Girls with the. Oh right! Oh god. Rita Moreno. Poor woman. Alright, this is maybe my actual favorite one. Let's check it out, you bother. This guy is hoping for it. Happy to hear that, let's hear that again. Let's check it out, you bother! Oh for sure. Because there's no way anybody after the Star Wars philom nut had Settled in for a few years by the time every bird starts back, would come up with a true like a salary. All right. Continuing People, what a bunch of bastards! Yeah. She's right. Pork chop sandwiches! Oh shit! Get the fuck out of here! What are you doing? Go, bitch! Got the fuck out of here, you stupid idiot! Fuck we're all- Get the fuck out! What is that? It's from the uh knowing as half the battle G. I. Joe early internet meme videos. Oh yeah. Architects avatars But we do baby without us em hotleadem What will we do baby without us? You can't feed a man that much pulled pork and deny him access to his own bathroom. I have no idea what that's from. I don't remember. I just went through the clips. And I started listening to him. I spent hours on this guys, hours. It's such a waste of my time. Here we go, I love it. Oh my god, grape better be in here. I thought about it. I thought you were gonna do it as I left it out. But you know, we grape. We still say grape around our house in in place of grape. He knew exactly how I liked to be touched. It was the most physical dream I've ever had. The sensations were very real and extremely arousing. Remember that one? You know, that's the sex Candle ghost episode. Oh no! Alright guys, uh less than ten left Oh boy. What will we do baby without So I have a ton of cock left Read about tennis tots, political posters, and the miniseries Shogun, all in the new issue of TB Guide magazine. It's just gonna be magical. My heart is gold, but my vagine is platinum. What would we do, baby? Without us. Walker told me I had AIDS. Oh my God No. Katie Perry, please stop. Hey Katie, remember when I barted on you and you fell in love with me? Puffing and love taste best when hot. That's how we started and we won't stop. No Landorcy could ever Keep you from me. The day we met, it was in our destiny. That's coffee and love song from some reality show that you were talking about. Oh, okay. You don't even seem to remember. Alright, two left, guys. What will we do, baby, without us? This is indeed a disturbing universe. Yeah. And finally. Yanking it back out, he then punches his fist through an intestinal wall and fires up the flamethrower on his gauntlet. I get the We're listening. I remember I have David D. Colby. I'm Avatar Ariana. Great. And Sarah D. Bunch. Show the lay so listening and we'll see you next time right here on extra oh great What would we do to make it without us? That's so stupid. Let's check it out, you bother. So bad That's Suck to bag of fucks and I invite you to go shit yourself. This is Extra Hot Great Minis. Today's topic is Smell This. Hello everybody, welcome to another week. of Extra Hot Great minis. Our guest all this week is Eve Beatty. Thank you, Eve. Hi. Thank you. Today's mini topic comes from David Connor. It is an extra credit for his adventure time canon argument. He asks us to pick a well-known TV show or TV character and design a fragrance appropriate to that character or show's brand. He wants to know in three parts what the perfume or cologne smells like, an appropriately obtuse name for the fragrance, and the tagline. So I'll go first. I'll start us off. Uh mine is Olivia Pope's Indecision. It's a combination of white wine and lady tears, and the tagline is maybe it's maybe this time. Tar. My show is The Walking Dead. Uh this cologne has notes of peaches, because they're in Georgia, uh dust, and obviously canned chocolate pudding. And uh the scent is called Rome. R-O-A-M. Nice. And the tagline is tell your story walking. Nice. Very nice. Eve. Um, well, I feel a little bad now that I know that David is the advan Adventure time guy, this isn't directed at you, David. I didn't think about it. Um but the uh character, the face, the person who's promoting this uh cologne is Benson Dunwoody from Regular Show. And his cologne will of course smell like gumballs. Um it is called Audrey, after his neighbor, that he has a I think maybe unrequited thing for and the tagline is wear it or you're fired. Joe. Nice. Uh so mine is uh Jeff Probst's fraternity. Sitting around with your bros, throwing the old bean bags around, calling each other by your last name. Subtly downplaying the accomplishments of women. It smells sort of beachy, sorta salty, sort of sweaty. When you need to assert your alpha dominance, uh it's fraternity, tagline Pick it up. Take us home, sir. Uh my show is Homeland. Gary Matson, of course, is the uh spokesperson. For Dead Red Smells like Ginger. And the tagline is betray yourself.