Throwing Down With Chief Of War

Clip: [00:00] Katya Na swings his club into a warrior's stomach, then beats the warrior's face with it. He brings the club down onto the warrior's head, causing blood to splatter. Namake throws an attacker into a tree, and Katya Na strikes the attacker's head against the tree with his His club. He pulls the club out with a grimace, and another Maui warrior stabs a man's face. An attacker comes at Katya Na. Katya Na smashes the attacker's leg with his club, then swings it. Into his face, embedding the club in the attacker's mouth. Katya Na rips the club from the attacker's mouth, snapping his neck. Katya Na scans the war zone and embers appear around him. He stops as something gets his attention. Dave: [00:51] This is the Extra, extra hot great podcast, episode 366 for the August 2nd, 2025 weekend. I am Rattle Nuts David T. Cole, and I'm here with Durable Leaf Keenie Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah: [01:10] Stays put as foretold in prophecy I'm not going to keep going. Dave: [01:13] And High Chief is Tari Arellano. Tara: [01:15] I'm not high, I'm just in a good mood. Welcome to Extra, Extra Hot, Great for Another Weekend. Thank you so much for being here and for your support. Support for making this possible, for letting us pay for Apple TV Plus so that we could watch Chief of War, in which, in the late 18th century, Oahu, Maui, Kauai, and Hawaii, what we now know as the Big Island, were each separate kingdoms, waiting for the fulfilment of a prophecy that a star with a feathered cape would announce the arrival of a king to unite them all In the meantime, the Four Kingdoms are constantly at war. Three years before the start of the show, Ka'iana, Jason Momoa, and his family left their lives as warriors in their native Maui to be fishermen in Kauai But as the series begins, Ka'iana is ordered to return. King Kahekeli, Temuera Morrison, has heard that the young King Hahana, Daniel Watts, of Oahu has fallen under the influence of an evil high priest and plans to attack Maui, and Kahakili Seir has told him not only that he is the king who will unite all the kingdoms, but that he will only defeat Oahu's army with Kaiena. This doesn't turn out the way Kai and I would hope. The show was created by Jason Momoa and Thomas Pa'a Sibet, whose previous credits are Three Jason Momoa movies, including Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom. They also co-wrote every episode, with Doug Young joining them on episodes two through eight. The first two Chief of War episodes dropped on Apple TV Plus August 1st. The remaining seven episodes will drop weekly on Fridays. Let's do the Chen check-in, Sarah. Should our listeners watch? Chief of War. Sarah: [02:57] Qualified, no. I think it does some things really well, and I think there's a reason. That the things it doesn't do well, in my opinion, are happening at the pace they are, but for me, it's a not quite there. Dave: [03:12] Premium Dad Coffee Book T V Show So I'm going to say yes. Tara: [03:18] Yes. My actual dad texted me yesterday to say, I read a review of this show in The Guardian. Should I watch it? And I said, I will let you know after we watch the screeners. And I texted him this morning to say Yes, although I warned him it is very violent because he's squeamish about that. But my mother watched Vikings. She'll be fine. It's a yes for me as well. Let's get into it The show is going to draw comparisons to Shogun and maybe already has overtext among the three of us. What can we tell fans of that show they can also expect to see and like here, Dave? Dave: [03:50] Yeah, I think the comparatives are Shogun, Vikings. I would put it more towards the Vikings end of the spectrum here because it is Not trying to be a fully rounded everything for everybody TV show. I think this is doing politics through battle, politics through personal relationships inside of royal courts and that kind of stuff. And it's just like sticking to that lane. And driving straight down that lane. And Shogun had a lot more to say about individual people and like where they're fitting in and how they are feeling with their feelings. And of course, it has a little bit of that going on. But I feel like. This is your dad's coffee table book energy show. It's not trying to be everything for everybody. It sort of knows what it is, telling the story in a very Direct manner. And I kind of appreciate that. I guess the other comparative I would say, just to paint maybe a fuller picture of the first two episodes, it also reminded me of Apocalypto. Do you remember that Mel Gibson movie? Tara: [04:50] I didn't see it, but yes, I remember it. Dave: [04:51] About the Aztec family that's basically on the run from the powers that be had sort of that energy as well, I thought. Sarah: [04:58] I mean, I think it's beautiful to look at, and I think where it sort of departs from the Shogun comparison, at least for me. Is that it's much more of a sort of like general, like let it wash over you and sort of take in all the Aspects of this history, this culture, the unifying of the kingdoms, the reason for that unification, the fact that there's always rot at the top, no matter where and when you are. And looking at it and sort of letting it kind of wash over me as a like Terrence Malick-esque. Experience. I liked that, but I also felt at least in the early going, I was doing a little reading about how this project came to be and how long they've been sort of gestating it, waiting for Jason Momoa to have the kind of write his own ticket power creatively that they could do this the way they wanted to do it. Which is cool and good for them. But in the early going, it did feel to me a little like it had been gestating for 10 years and they were being excessively Not careful, but just it plodded a little, like it just felt like it had been, you know, sitting on the pass-through, as they say in the restaurant biz. For a while, Shogun was to me immediately more. I hate the word propulsive, but sometimes you gotta. I think there are definitely comparisons in terms of it being uncompromising about telling the story that it wants to tell and not centering colonizing forces in it. That makes it compelling in a lot of ways, but the pacing here is not quite where I wanted it to be at first. And yeah, the violence is Not fucking around that Foley work is uh impressive. Tara: [06:57] Yeah, in terms of how long it's been cooking, as Sarah said, it they originally conceived the idea in twenty fifteen. Sarah: [06:58] I Yeah. Tara: [07:03] So it's been it's been ten years. They ordered it to series in twenty twenty two. Dave: [07:06] I think one of the things that sort of slows down the first couple episodes a bit or lends itself to that feeling is that when you compare it to Shogun, the characters in Shogun are so Distinctly drawn right away, and there is a sharpness to that. And I thought, especially in the first episode, it really felt like somebody's history paper with a little sprinkling of it's time to have some human moments. Where a Shogun really felt at its heart that human story radiating outwards, where this one it's a little stayed They sort of forget that these are more than historical figures at some point, I think. That's what I say. This has got real dad coffee book book coffee table book energy. Sarah: [07:49] Yeah, that's very well said. Dave: [07:51] It really feels like, you know, what is the human story of Soviet tanks of the Second World War? Tara: [07:57] Right, right. Dave: [07:57] Well, not much, but I enjoy reading about it and how they move around and all that kind of stuff, says every dad ever. And this is sort of that as a TV show. Tara: [08:07] Mm-hmm. Dave: [08:09] And at some points, they do have those emotions, but it's not the throughput. And I think that's where it falls down. in comparisons versus Shogun. Shogun was such a firing and all cylinders project, and this one isn't. Tara: [08:23] Yeah, I think it shades in in the second episode more. Dave: [08:26] I totally agree, but the pilot is not a pilot, but the first episode is very pilot-y in that regard. Tara: [08:33] Yes. Yes, agree. Sarah: [08:34] Yeah, I think that is the difference, that it's sort of putting this historical exposition and context first. Pretty skillfully, whereas Shogun immediately was just like, here are some characters, and then we're gonna occasionally iris out so that you can see The larger historical sweep, I will say it's not as though this cast is not capable. Dave: [08:50] Yeah, mhm. Sarah: [08:58] I think Jason Momoa actually has been, based on his musculature and stature. Perhaps underrated or like underutilized. I realize nobody else watched The Red Road except me. But it is on Prime if you want to watch it. It's about Ramapo Indigenous people and the clash with the community, but set in the present day. In the great state of New Jersey, and Tamaratooney's in it. But I remember thinking at that time, like, that guy's just going to be John Wicking around for like the next twenty years, but he's got s he's got more than that in him. And the sort of scheming king actor is perfectly cast and just They have the tools to do a more shoguny approach. Dave: [09:46] Boba Fett. Tara: [09:47] Yep. Mhm. Dave: [09:50] Yeah, Tamara. Tara: [09:51] Tamuera Morrison. Dave: [09:52] Morrison, thank you. Tara: [09:53] Yes. Dave: [09:54] Yeah, he is really good. He is an excellent heel. And that is sort of what I'm talking about. Sarah: [09:57] Yep. Dave: [09:59] That character felt like he was out of Shogun. Like, he could have been a Shogun character from Shogun He is very duplicitous. He is capital E evil in the first episode. And I think the show could have used more of that energy. Not necessarily, I mean, making everybody a dick But having somebody that sharply drawn, and you're like, oh, okay, this is what this guy's about. And wow, that was a great portrayal. I loved it. Tara: [10:24] Yeah, we can say now that we're in the spoiler zone, what happens in the first episode battle is Kaiyana realizes the king lied to him. And when they attack Oahu, they're not fighting warriors, they're fighting farmers. Like at one point, Kaina is like pursuing people in tall grasses, and then it's a woman and two kids, and he's like, oh, fuck. And then the king. Savagely kills like a teenage boy, like really young kid. And then he chases a whole village's worth of people into their Place of refuge. And I think we're all familiar with the idea of sanctuary in a sacred place. But Dave, we have visited historical sites of this. Dave: [11:00] Yeah. The place of refuge is like a named place. It's just not like going to a church and hope ice doesn't get you. Tara: [11:03] Yeah, I'm gonna be a little bit Yes, not even just morality alone, like custom. Dave: [11:07] It's like, this is a place. It is called the place of refuge. It is a designated place where you go, and the king can't kill you. And there is one on the big island. We went there, was like Weirdly calm and different. The air was moving differently around it. I mean, I don't believe in that kind of stuff, but it was just weird that it felt so still. So it was a, it felt solemn. And sacred, you know, when you were there. But the king corners everybody left in this village and just traps them all in a hut and burns them alive. So he's that kind of guy. And this is going against centuries of tradition on the island. So he's that kind of Yeah, he's that kind of moaha ha ha, victory at any cost kind of character. Tara: [11:45] Yeah. Dave: [11:48] And he's a good foil and also contrast for Jason Momoa. Tara: [11:51] Mm-hmm. Yeah, and we also get to see in the first and second episodes, especially more in the second one, but like there's discord among his own Closest advisors too. Like some are very on his side, and then his son, the prince, is clearly like, okay, this is fucked up. Dave: [12:07] Yeah, we got a mad king on our hands. What do we do? Yeah, right. Tara: [12:10] Right, yes. Dave: [12:10] Yeah. Tara: [12:11] So he's, you know, they're, they spend a lot of the second episode pursuing Kai and Ah, but the prince is sort of like, don't kill him, bring him to me alive. Dave: [12:11] Yeah. Yeah. Tara: [12:19] Because, you know, they want to figure this out. Dave: [12:21] Right. And so that sets up that sort of apocalypto comparison I was talking about where Kai and A's family of five including him, are sort of constantly on the run, either initially have escaped the Maui tribe or kingdom rather And now he was sort of called back into service and he can't really refuse. And then he realizes what a shithead this king is, and he wants to escape again. There's all these chasings, and the chase scenes are really well done, too. I thought, like, everything. Sarah: [12:50] Yeah. Dave: [12:50] That they're filming on location in beautiful New Zealand was great. Tara: [12:55] New Zealand. Yeah. Sarah: [12:57] Well The sort of like close-up, I'm gonna separate your jaws with my machete parts of the battle aside, like the reign of spears and The sort of like following surge in a siege of the slings, they shot it so smartly to really Give you a sense, like in 3D, of how a battle like this would begin, and then what would happen next? Dave: [12:57] And I think they really utilized I mean, this sounds stupid to say when I say it out loud, but it really felt visceral. I really, it really felt like once in a while when we still lived in Hawaii and I kind of got lost a little bit. Tara: [13:08] Yeah. Dave: [13:08] It felt like that. And there's this like beautiful sense of panic. Tara: [13:09] Uh-huh. Dave: [13:12] You're like, oh, fuck. This is really nice, and I'm enjoying this, but I could die here. You know what I mean? Like, it had that sort of vibe to it, which I thought was great. Sarah: [13:49] Like, that you have waves of warriors doing different things with different tools. Dave: [13:53] Yeah. Sarah: [13:54] And it reminded me of there's a scene in Gladiator where they just like the entire regiment puts their shields over top and then around the side to make a testugine tortoise. Then they're firing flaming arrows from inside of it. And the way that was shot, I was like, it took Roman historians several paragraphs to describe This and then there it is in this one shot. But the Reign of Spears, I thought was really cool. Maybe I'm talking myself back into this show. Dave: [14:24] I mean, what you're talking about, that sort of palpable Geography of a fight that you get the sense of what's going on rather than the born identity just moving the camera a lot and making it kinetic The other smart thing about that is that, you know, we think of epic battles between kingdoms, and we're thinking of, you know, like the 10,000 arrows flying up and coming down. Sarah: [14:31] Yeah. Mm-hmm. Dave: [14:46] But these were small skirmishes because there were small populations. Tara: [14:49] Yeah. Dave: [14:49] Because the islands don't feed enough people just naturally. You know, the soil is not great in most of the places. So you count them in the dozens, maybe hundreds, instead of the thousands and ten thousands of people on the battlefield. Tara: [14:59] Right, including that who whatever the invading army is or navy, I guess, they have to come over in like outrigger canoes with eight guys or and ladies. Sarah: [15:08] Can't really sneak up. Tara: [15:10] Yeah, yeah. Sarah: [15:10] Either because it's all headlands and there's always some kid who's like, Oh shit, like, oh, more boats. Find me a conk. Let's alert the alert the media And for someone with no sense of spatial relations to sort of lay out how a battle would work successfully, so that I feel very Like, I'm in it virtually is really an accomplishment. So, great job, show. I just talked myself back into a yes for Chief of War, or Honolulu King, as I keep calling it, because I don't know why. Dave: [15:41] But stay tuned. We still might get Hotalilu King. We got Nola King, we've already had Tulsa King. It could happen. Jason Momoa, you know, he's going to get older one day. And there we go. Tara: [15:50] They do have a meth problem on the islands, so there's that. But he unfortunately probably would not be walking around ass out like he is in this show. Dave: [15:58] Wow, you get a lot of cheek, a lot of cheek in this show. Tara: [16:00] You sure do. Sarah: [16:01] Oh yeah, no notes. Clip: [16:04] Do you like questions? We like questions. Ask us questions and then we'll answer them. Entertainment or just the mundane You can also play our question game. Send an answer you think is the shit. You'll get stickers if we're into it. We like questions. Do you like questions? Here come the questions. Ask EHG. Yeah. Dave: [16:34] I decided to not put that one to music because I was enjoying it. Perhaps in the future, I will. Tara: [16:37] Hmm Yeah. Dave: [16:38] Thank you, Mopsuchis, for that theme. Mopsukas having a shitty month. So, shout out to Mapsuchis. Hope things get better. It is time for Ask EHG. Tara is the judge of this week. Tara, what is last week's Ask Ask ESG question? Tara: [16:52] Last week's Ask, Ask EHG question came to us from Dr. Calhoun, who asked, what plot hole, logic, error, or flaw in a plot ruined a TV show for you? And I'm going to skip my own perennial answer of that 90s show episode of The Simpsons, because I know I've talked about it before, and go straight into the listeners Eric Without a K is one of our runners-up. He writes, It didn't take me out while I was watching it, but in hindsight, I have a lot of problems with the redemption of Logan Eccles. Strong agree. Early season one, Logan did things that should have precluded Veronica from ever talking civilly to him, and the show only works because they decided to never speak of it again. Yep, agree. Julie says, I can't say it ruined the show for me entirely, but in season seven of The West Wing, Josh Lyman is shirtless and, all caps, he does not have a scar from his chest or lung surgery or whatever after being shot at. Not just shot at. Shot. I can't tell you how much this bugs me. Julie resumes. Enough to piss off everyone by using all caps and probably not actually properly answering the prompt. Thank you for now reminding me how much it bugs me. No, you're good Slovenly Muse writes of Abbott Elementary, It's a workplace comedy that makes me wonder whether the writers have ever set foot in that workplace Well, it was a lesser-known show, the Katie Dids at Com teachers was spot on about what it's like working in an underfunded elementary school, one of the troop bases The series on her actual experiences, but Abbott regularly does absolutely bullshit stuff that rings false to anyone who's actually done that job, and then parentheses. Janine pulls out donated iPads from a box and starts handing them out to kids without even checking that they work or what's on them and with no task assigned. Barbara can't figure out the online library sign-up schedule, so she just walks her entire class down to the library to deliberately crash someone else's block and ruin their lesson, rather than just calling down and asking the librarian when she's free that day. Gregory is salty about not getting Ava's principal job despite never having done a single day of teaching in his life and not knowing the first thing about classroom/slash school expectations, and we're supposed to be on his side. It's like the writers have to pretend no one on the show has any common sense or basic problem solving skills in order to tell their story. They've come up with I HATE IT But our winner, she's back again. It's Erica who writes, I realize that I'm both naive and an idiot by expecting basically anything about this show to be logical to humans, but The Calvin Ball nature of the rules of modeling behavior in America's Next Top Model infuriated me. Stand up for yourself if you feel unsafe. Shut up and do what you're told. Shut up and do what you're told and end up endangering yourself. Stand up and say something. Make a safe decision in a self-style challenge. Try something we're not expecting. Try something they're not expecting. You look ridiculous. Far from the only thing about that show that Turned me off it to be honest, but it was a big factor in my decision to fast forward to the pretty pictures and ignore everything else. This was a complaint I definitely also had at the time. You knew your judge or you didn't, but you lucked out because I agree with you 100% and you are our winner this week. So DM Dave on Discord to get your stickers. I understand new stickers are on their way. Dave: [20:01] Yep. Probably next week we've made that's bullshit stickers. Tara: [20:06] Hmm Hm, yep. Dave: [20:06] Sort of a 70s vibe, 70s with a little bit of bar crumb mixed in, is what I was going for. And a We Are Domer sticker that's dome-shaped. So, you can stick those in your laptop. He'd be the coolest person in the hood. All right, let's get to your questions for us this week. First one comes from Seth. Seth asks, I just saw a young and the restless promo that made it look like the cast was stuck in a hedge maze under the dome style. In what equally silly location would a T V show cast be stuck for an extended period of time? So we're going to under the dome another show what's happening to her. Tara: [20:43] Well, the contestants of Squid Game, I think we can all agree, have been through a lot, so let's give them a day off. From all of the Mortal Kombat at a trampoline park, but the twist is they don't shut down the park for them. It's just them plus regular people all in there. So they're there in their like bloody jumpsuits, just hopping around, crying. Sarah: [21:04] I would like the entire cast of Frasier to head to the county fair and get stuck on the Ferris wheel. Niles Crane, trapped in that swinging car at the very top of the ride, is guaranteed gold. Dave. Dave: [21:17] You know when they are building a new subdivision and they have those model homes right at the entrance of the subdivision, right? So everyone from Paradise is in the real estate office model of Paradise inside of Paradise. Tara: [21:32] Uh-huh. Dave: [21:33] And somehow this smaller paradise inside of paradise has its own carnival called We Carnival. Mill snack. I kind of want to see that happen a lot. Tara: [21:44] Yeah. Sarah: [21:46] Me too. Dave: [21:46] Mill snack, keeping everything else the same. Which show should we? Replace all its actors with live-action talking horse versions of the characters, Mr. Ed style. Sarah, you're first here. Sarah: [21:58] Alright, this is a very dumb knee-jerk idea, but it's one of those that once I had it, I could not get the mental image of a spy Palomino galloping through a back hallway of Parliament. So here we all are at Slow Horses, horses. Dave: [22:13] Yep. Yeah, I kind of went similar to you. I actually took it one step further from the question And I'm creating a show called Reverse Gun Smoke. All the horses are human, and then all the humans are horses. So there are horse humans riding horse Burton Reynolds in this show. I think I got that right. Tara: [22:28] Yes. Dave: [22:30] Burt Reynolds Party Gun Smoke in the later-ish years, and also Clint Eastwood who's in Gunsmoke, not as a regular character, that is Rawhide But he played 16 different characters over 19 episodes on Gun Smoke Eastwood did. Sarah: [22:43] Wow. Dave: [22:43] So when he's a horse, I can only assume that we are in some sort of nutty professor to the clump situation, but with a Clint Eastwood horse. Tara: [22:49] Right. Yep. Dave: [22:52] Yeah. Talk. Tara: [22:53] The newsroom. I have nothing more to say. Dave: [22:55] Okay. Damon's here with a question for Sarah D. Bunting. D. B. Cooper famously escaped after parachuting out of a plane in 1971. Surprise, it turns out he made his way to Hollywood where he hid in plain sight as a background character on a contemporaneous T V show. Which show was he on, and which role did he play? And I just realized, you know, we have to play the song if we're talking about the thing. So here we go. Sarah: [23:22] Yeah, we do. Clip: [23:33] Take it back to the old school. Cause I'm an old fool who's so cool. If you wanna get down, I'ma show you the way. There it is. Let me hear you say Cooper. Sarah: [23:42] Cooper he is. Clip: [23:43] There he is. Cool. There he is. Tara: [23:52] He was one of the support staffers way in the background of all of the newsroom scenes on the Mary Tyler Moore show. He was just like one of those guys doing graphics or whatever. Sarah: [24:06] I put him in medical drama because I think what probably happened is that he just like hit the ground at more miles an hour than the human body can Stand, but I think he should be on medical center. He should be just like in the background of a shot, in a full body cast, like the kind that, except for the eyes. He's just like covered in plaster and in traction, but he has the sunglasses on the cast, like over the eyes from the identicate sketch, and the clip-on tie is like attached to the front of the Of the cast. Dave: [24:39] Yeah. Sarah: [24:40] And it like occasionally one of those things is missing, and they're just sort of like waiting for you to notice and write into the network as you used to have to do in the early seventies. Dave: [24:49] That stupid idea just gave me a fully formed additional stupid idea, which is prove me wrong, Sarah. Tara: [24:53] First of all, rude. Dave: [24:57] DB Cooper appears. Remember, we were talking about the Elizabeth Taylor night on CBS. Tara: [25:03] Yes. Dave: [25:03] Oh, that's coming in your future. Tara: [25:04] In a future episode. Dave: [25:05] That's coming in your future, dear listeners. So look forward to that. Tara: [25:07] Mm-hmm. Dave: [25:08] But one character on multiple shows in the night, that is D. B. Cooper, and he parachutes into the set, like crashes through the false ceiling of the set in each of the episodes of that night. Sarah: [25:19] Yeah. Dave: [25:20] That would be pretty great. Sarah: [25:20] I wish Police Squad had come in, had come on the air ten years earlier because he could just be. Like instead of the banana falling out of the guy's mouth from out of frame, it's just like the clip on Ty, his sunglasses, him. Dave: [25:32] TV Cooper. Got something on the side of your face. No, the other side. Flop. TV Cooper falls off. Sarah: [25:42] Yeah, you feel me. Dave: [25:43] To pickles, what is your number one excuse for having to miss the family barbecue or party where you know dumb shit will be said by dumb drunk people? Tara: [25:52] I don't live there. It's too far for me to come. I live in Texas. You all live in parts of Canada, Dave. Dave: [26:01] Most of my family is dead. Sarah. Sarah: [26:04] I am the dumb drunk people, so I don't know, we can't get a dog sitter. Dave: [26:10] Awkward. Pamela, if you had a boat, what would you name it? Sarah, boat name. Sarah: [26:16] All right, look. My husband is still so tickled by the Bodhi Big Boat face Thing from a few years ago that I think I would have to bow it to pressure and name it that, but probably some terrible pun like the floater or the dorka or rad October. Dave: [26:22] Wow. The torque. Tara: [26:34] Dorica. Nice. Rad October, that's good. Sarah: [26:36] Yeah. Dave: [26:38] What was the last one? Sarah: [26:39] Rad October. Why not? Dave: [26:42] That's pretty good. Sarah: [26:42] Tara. Tara: [26:43] Uh obviously the Odyssey, Dave. Dave: [26:46] Uh-huh. Port of coal, embarking up the wrong tree, and my favorite, all lowercase with the period at the end, boat. Tara: [26:48] Mm. Sarah: [26:49] Mm-hmm. Tara: [26:49] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. In the no-frills font, of course. Sarah: [26:57] Yeah. Dave: [26:58] Oh, absolutely. Tara: [26:59] You paint it yellow as well. Dave: [27:01] Not not Diapo. What unconventional food should be available at movie concession stands? Ooh, good question. Because this death there, when he writes me that he invited me once up to have Frankies, I want Frankies because I still haven't found Frankies in Austin, and I want Frankie's. It's sort of like It's not like a hot dog, but it occupies the same snack space as a hot dog. So I think it's something you should be able to get at a movie concession stand. Look it up. I can't really describe it. It's sort of like a potato frittery kind of thing, I guess, maybe. Tara: [27:29] Ooh, okay, Sarah Oh fuck, that sounds real good. Dave: [27:30] Yeah. Yeah, it's three food. Sarah: [27:32] The thing is, there is a lot of food. Like the there is kind of almost a 360 of food at movie concession stands now. It's just not Good. So I went with full-size bags of chips. Like, just give me the entire bag of Doritos, please, and a giant Dai Coke. Tara. Dave: [27:52] All right, hang on. Frankie's update, just so I don't give everybody food blue balls here. Popular and flavorful Indian street food, often called an Indian burrito. Made with curried mashed potatoes, chickpea, cauliflower, pickled onions, and cilantro mint chutney. Sarah: [28:09] Oh shit. Yeah, that I'm changing mine to that. Dave: [28:12] Now, you know why I was obsessed with trying to find one in Austin. Sarah: [28:15] Oh my god. Dave: [28:16] Apparently, there was one food truck here in Austin that sells it, but I can never find. I've been there twice, and they're like, we're not open right now. And it's just like, it's one of those where they're just like. It's at a gas station parking lot. It just never seems to be open. So I don't know. Tara: [28:29] Man, yeah, salted atomy pods. Sarah: [28:29] Oh Yeah, true. Dave: [28:29] I assume there's a dead body in there. They just don't know what to do with it. It seems like they should. It seems like it would be something you could have there, yeah. Tara: [28:38] Yeah, maybe that's something that they could do for like you know how they have special menus, like theme menus for Yes. Dave: [28:44] Yeah, Invasions of the Body Snatchers remake with Edami pods. Yeah. Sarah: [28:48] Oh, that's good. Tara: [28:49] Mhm. Sarah: [28:49] Or they could just have a like, you know, Misophonians stay away night because I feel like slurping of Edomame pods is maybe not for every fellow moviegoer. Dave: [28:59] Oh, yeah. Yeah, Alamo must be really rough for people who suffer from that because there's a lot of food noises going on. Tara: [29:07] Yeah, just me clinking the fork on the dish when I'm eating my salad in the dark and spilling half of it on my chest. Sarah: [29:07] Yeah, mhm. Dave: [29:13] It's true. Tara comes out of that looking like a Jackson Pollock painting. Tara: [29:17] Look, if I eat a salad at Alamo, it means I can do whatever I want for the rest of the week. Sarah: [29:22] Yeah, I was gonna say. Dave: [29:22] I g I guess. I mean, it feels like such a waste to go to Alamo and not have delicious, greasy treat food. Tara: [29:29] I get that as well. Dave: [29:31] Okay. Moving on. Monty, in game time, Picky, person in control choosing initiative, obviously chooses who goes first. Is there an equally high-tech method for choosing the order of play after that? Well, now we have to divulge a secret of the ESG podcast, which is, yes, there is. We don't really talk about them because they're kind of a jerk, but we're talking about the new Entrant Execution Turn Implementer or Nexty. See Ken, prompted by the ER draft, who do our hosts think beat up Mark Green? And please explain what exactly happened because I have no memory of this. Sarah: [30:11] It's in an episode called Random Acts. Tara: [30:14] In season three, right? Sarah: [30:15] Yeah, season three, episode twenty, I'm gonna say. It was a pretty vicious and personal beating. It took place in the men's room. You don't see what happened. Dave: [30:24] Oh, yeah. Sarah: [30:25] But prior to that, in the episode, he had had confrontations with various patients' and patients' families. The show kind of lets you think that it was Chris Law's brother Kenny who really got in Mark's face about sort of treating Kenny in a racist fashion and making assumptions about him. As a patient based on skin color. And the show, for a while, positions us to think that that's who it was. He alibis out. It's implied, I think, in the next season that they found some Rando who was attacking doctors all around Chicago. So I think the show wants us to settle for that as an explanation because the name of the Episode is random acts. And I think the point is you know, bad shit goes down at a county hospital beyond what beyond what is on the label of a show called ER. Just, I think it was. Random, someone, an emotionally disturbed person. Dave: [31:26] Right. But we'd never find out any R as opposed to the pit where we know it's that jerk from the waiting room. Yeah, right. Sarah: [31:33] Yeah, no, I mean, I think it's sort of like you can choose for this to resolve itself. I think that was a plot thread that was like The writers might have meant to tease it out further and just didn't get around to it. But I think the point was to give Mark some PTSD and maybe underpin the fact that he could be kind of a dick sometimes with a little more Motivation and a question mark, but unclear. Tara, your thoughts? Tara: [32:01] I'll tell you who it's not. Reddit user who deleted their account since they posted this eight years ago, probably out of shame. Fucking Malik? Someone on Reddit, and I'll link it in the show notes because when I was Googling it to see if they ever answered it, someone's like, Here's the case for why it's Malik. Sarah: [32:12] Yeah, I saw that. What? Tara: [32:18] He was real mad at Mark. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Of course, it's not Malik. So. Sarah: [32:22] No, it's not Malik. Tara: [32:22] Not Malik is my answer. Dave: [32:24] You dolt. Milsnack has our last question. Which fictional T V lawyer should Extra Hot Grate hire to be their in-house legal expert about TV things? Tara, we gotta hire our lawyer. Hire them. Tara: [32:38] Yeah, it's not really her specialty, but I'm going to say Diane Lockhart from The Good Wife and The Good Fight since She often faced off against an entertainment, a recurring entertainment lawyer on that franchise, played by Rita Wilson. And Diane usually won, in my recollection. So, Diane, Sarah. Sarah: [32:54] I was tempted to go with the rest of developments Barry Zuckerkorn because he is hilarious. And if you're spending that much money, you want a soothing presence like Henry Winkler, regardless of. Not an O competence. But let's go with competence. A subscrupulous but affordable attorney named James McGill. Dave. Dave: [33:14] Well, because we are a cutting edge, bleeding edge, I'm going to say. Cyber company with an eye to the future. We need to hire the lawyers of Crane Constable McNeil Montero from Century City Space Lawyers But just consider, if you're not into space lawyers, just on the cover of it, for our money, we will get to meet Nestor Carbonell. Tara: [33:25] Century City Great knife. Sarah: [33:28] Space Oh, good old fair shirt. Dave: [33:39] Viola Davis, Hector Elizondo, and Horatio Homeblower himself, Iron Grimfuff. Forever guy. So that's what you get for your money. What's his name? How do you say Oyen Yoind? Tara: [33:54] Yoan Griffith. Dave: [33:57] Come on, you Welsh people. Tara: [33:59] Oh, yeah, he's Welsh. Dave: [34:00] Oh, yeah. Sarah: [34:00] Oh, really? Dave: [34:01] Oh, yeah. Sarah: [34:01] You're you're opening that can? Tara: [34:01] Oh, he's Welsh The Perfect Game Show does exist. Sarah: [34:03] Okay. Dave: [34:05] I can say it. I got most blood in me. All right, dear listeners, here is your ask, ask EHG question for you to answer on our Discord. Or if you haven't answered and you're not on our Discord and you really want to contribute, just email me, david at cole. fyi, and just put ask as EHG or something in the subject line. Milsnack asks, What is the best second episode of a T V series? So episode number two of a T V series, which one had the best Go to the Discord or email me, plop your answer there. We'll be back soon with a judgment on that, and somebody will get a new sticker, sticker, sticker. It is time for the town of Tamum, presumably most rolls of Tara, Tara, Tull of our World! Tara: [34:50] It is called Jeopardy. No one ever needed to try making another one after that, and yet people continue to do so. And the more baroque they get, the likelier it is that something won't work out as expected. That is the topic of Chunky, the sketch I am presenting to what else? The tiny sketch cannon. Here's why. Number one: captures the experience of watching an excessively complicated game show. From second zero of this sketch, it's clear Dan Vega's Mega Money quiz is fundamentally misbegotten. None of the squares on the Mega Money board is labeled, so this is the convoluted way the contestants have to call out their requests. Clip one. Clip: [35:29] Second row, four down from the left. Tara: [35:32] Come on. The first question we hear is: This red condiment can be put on hamburgers. Colleen, played by Dana Dooley, answers ketchup and gets it right, but there are probably lots of condiments to which this question as phrased applies. Frank's red hot sauce, friracha, marinara sauce, cocktail sauce. Sweet and sour sauce all could be put on hamburgers. Shoddy question writing. Finally, when a square is flipped, it just flaps closed again, which would make it difficult for host Dan Vega, Tim Robinson, or the players to keep track of which squares had already been played. Admittedly, the gameplay is slow enough for this not really to be a factor, but even when the main problem arises, Dan Vega's Mega Money quiz has structural issues. Number two, Chunky Clip Two Sure enough, Paul, I think you should leave executive producer Andy Sandberg flips a chunkie on his first turn Chunky, a guy in a furry red mascot costume, comes out to his theme song, kind of dances and waves his arms. Clip: [36:16] Watch out for the Chunkies. Chunky eats your points and he gets very mad. Tara: [36:35] Then the music ends and Chunky just kind of stands there. Clip three. Grabs Paul's arm and shakes it. Clip: [36:49] Okay, what are you going to do with it? What's the plan? He's eating your points. Alright. Tara: [36:58] Chunky attacks him. Clip: [36:59] Okay. Ow! Stop! Ah! He's pulling on my shirt! What the hell you doing, Chunky? You can't wreck his shirt. You have to figure out what Chunky does before you come out here Go! What the fuck, man? He wrecked my shirt. Don't swear! Oh my god! What game show have you ever seen that had swearing in it? Ah, yeesh Oh frick. Tara: [37:25] Paul does try to be a good sport at first, playing around the way a player on a show like this would be coached to, but having Chunky wreck his shirt puts him in a sour mood for the next round. He flips another chunkie and clip four. Clip: [37:42] What do you have? What's this? You have a bag? What the hell? That's my backpack. He went in the green room and got his bag. What are you gonna do with it Hey, that's my laptop. Don't touch that. Put that back. What are you doing with that? Hey! Don't put that. Nope! Tunkie! Tell him to stop! Don't break his laptop. That's expensive. Tara: [37:57] Thrust it on the floor. Clip: [37:58] Thank you. No! I just say! Don't break his friggin' laptop! You gotta pay for that! I don't! Don't talk! You can't talk! Chunky, the mouth on the don't come over by me! Stay over there! Figure out what you do! You had all summer to think of it! Tara: [38:21] Soon it's Paul's turn again and clip five. Clip: [38:25] Third, down, fourth row. That's a chunky. He didn't even turn it over. I came up with this game. I know what all the little things are. Oh my god. What is it? What are you doing with the bird, Chunky? A hat? That's my hat. What is that thing? You want to put the hat on him? Oh, yeah, okay, let's see what that does. Stop! Ow, what is this? Fine, I'm wearing my own hat! Tara: [38:58] Breast Your Lux Whammy definitely has a team of animators and probably also a team of writers coming up with his bits. Chunky's all on his own and flailing, as you can tell, because the middle visit is the one with the most chaos and violence when he throws the laptop on the ground. Bad luck for Paul that he brought a laptop to the studio, really. And number three, How It Ends, Clip Six That's when the lights go out and Dan Vega gives up. Clip: [39:21] We haven't been to the board in a long time. Yeah, I know Colleen. This show's gonna suck. We just gotta figure out like what Chunky's deal is. Like don't TAUK! The mouth on the thing doesn't move and looks fake! That's yeah, that's a good idea. Dump it That's yeah, that's a good idea. Tara: [39:44] If all summer wasn't long enough for the guy inside Chunky to produce his own appearances on the show, the minute roughly between rounds definitely won't be long enough either. Why prolong this when we all get it? 3 minutes and 46 seconds is all the time we need with this premise. As I recently said in answer to an Ask EHG question about Quibi, it's all we would have needed with the quiz with balls too, and yet. I promise I will eventually make a pitch to the tiny sketch cannon that doesn't feature Tim Robinson, unless you don't vote this in, and then I'll just barrage you with them punitively until clip seven. Dave: [40:20] Thank you, Tara, Sarah. Do you want to go first or last on this one? Giving you the choice. Sarah: [40:24] Last, please. Dave: [40:25] All right. Well, I'm going to say this is a really good sketch, but I don't think it's quite great enough for me to put into the tiny canon. Love this show. This is a good exemplar of how funny Tim Robinson is when he's just screaming really loudly. I know that's not everybody, and you don't, you know, I get it. Sarah: [40:44] Best in the business. Dave: [40:45] Yeah, it has a good escalation for him getting mad, but I think the escalation of the overall sketch is sort of weir You mentioned that the chunky curve peaks in the middle and then goes down. I kind of felt that energy at the end of the sketch, too. Like it wasn't quite firing totally at the end. Although, the button of all right. Dump it is super funny. So, this is like really close to canon worthy for me, but there's so much to choose from from this show that are excellent sketches that I feel like I really have to grade this. On a curve, and is really demanding. So, I'm going to say Chunky just falls a little bit short for me, but is still hilarious. Sarah. Sarah: [41:25] That's about where I am. But my notes were like, I don't know why the pacing of this feels a little off to me, but I'm going to wait to see what Dave says. The thing is that I laughed like uncontrollably several times. It has that classic Tim Robinson screaming, which, as you said, is not for everyone, but I just admire watching a born hollerer at work. That, yeah, that's a good idea. Dump it is flawlessly executed. You had all summer to think of it. Is like that just contains like a novella of information about How this sketch was conceived. Tara makes such good points about how the gameplay is just so fugazy, and everything is like a third-generation mimeograph of other better-known game shows Whoever's in the chunky costume just bringing their best, like very depressed, gritty/slash fanatic to this. The way that Tim Robinson's or Dan Vega's reactions are written, that he really is like sincerely spluttering and can't come up with Well-crafted responses like, what have you ever seen a game show with swears? I mean, it's really good and funny, but there's something about maybe it is that it peaks in the wrong place. Dave: [42:48] Yeah, I think so. Sarah: [42:49] Maybe it's that it's trying to do, I mean, it's trying to gig how cinchy some game show questions are because the contestants are Who you find on the street in Studio City in the middle of the day. And it's also trying to gig like having too many things On or like long stretches where there's no gameplay. Like, I think it's maybe trying to do too much, and it needed to be just a little tighter, or one like joke or callback shorter. But that's why I wanted to see if I was crazy and to let Dave go first. Dave: [43:22] Well, you are, but not for this reason. Sarah: [43:23] So Traces. Dave: [43:25] One other thing I want to mention, the initial Chunky coming out and then his Musical ditty ends, and he's still not quite sure what to do, and he's just sort of dangling on a string out there. Really puts me in mind of like being at a party at your own house. And you have to introduce people and you don't remember anybody's name and you've just got this cold panic where you're like, I don't know what to do next. Do I pretend I'm fainting? You know, do I Pretend I have to poop instant diarrhea time. Got to run away. Where's Tara? Tara knows all the names. Oh, wait, this suddenly became about me. That sort of flailing and not really knowing what's next, and not being able to improvise in the moment really struck a chord. So, I did enjoy that part a lot. All right. Let's put this to the vote. I am going to say no to this one, but still worth your time, Sarah de Bunting. Sarah: [44:18] Agree. And if there's a barrage of Tim Robinson sketches, oh, too bad. Dave: [44:25] All right, so that means, Chunky, from I think you should leave, you are hereby not inducted into the extra hot gray tiny Sketch Cannon. Clip: [44:42] Dump it. Americans love a winner. Yup! And will not tolerate a loser. Nope! Dave: [44:50] All right, it is time to discover our not quite winners and the losers of the week. Our first not quite winner is Peacemaker, getting both a new theme song and a new dance routine for its second season It didn't occur to me when we're watching Superman, Superminor Superman Spoilers, by the way, that the Peacemaker in that movie is not the same Peacemaker from Peacemaker Season 1. They're two different worlds. And I guess, according to the trailer, they are meeting in season two. So I guess that's how Tim Gunn is bringing over his favorite character, Peacemaker, into the universe. Tara: [45:20] J James Gunn, Tim Gunn, not involved. Dave: [45:22] Fucking hell. Sarah: [45:22] Tip gun stat Yeah, he's one of those like pre-Vatican II guys. Dave: [45:23] Fucking hell. We're just keeping that in. What do you think the costuming would be better or worse if Tim Gunn was in charge of the DC Cinematic Universe? Tara: [45:28] If only. I mean, I think this costume is pretty good, actually. So, I don't think there's much you can improve. Dave: [45:39] Loser of the week, common not quite, is Neil McDonough, he of the eyes. Revealing himself to be one of those fucking weirdo actors who refuses to kiss a woman on screen that is not his wife, claiming that Hollywood. Completely turned on him because of that. Like, does Hollywood really care? Answer: No. The bigger question is: why do you have this dynamic in your life? Is it from you or from your wife? Tara: [46:05] It says in the article she doesn't care. It's total it's just him. So it's like yeah. Sarah: [46:13] Who's just like, I will observe, you know, Deuteronomy to the letter. And everyone's like, whatever. But like, he works all the fucking time. Tara: [46:20] He he works. Sarah: [46:21] What is he talking about? Tara: [46:22] I don't I no, you didn't. Sarah: [46:22] Like, I lost everything. The fuck you did. Tara: [46:25] You're fine. Dave: [46:26] Yeah. All right, Sarah, who is your not quite winner of the week? Sarah: [46:29] My not quite winner is the Savannah Bananas, which is, if you're not familiar, the Harlem Globetrotters of baseball. TNT has announced plans to televise the Banana Ball Championship, and they're upping their commitment of games that they air threefold, I think. This is actually great news, I feel. I love that they're getting wider exposure. They are so enjoyable, and it's really a good way to bring baseball to people slash young up the demo. I love MLB. I love the Mets, God help me, but things can feel a little ossified. And with the legalized gambling intruding into everything, the bananas are just like a really sort of simple pleasure, I guess. It hasn't become edified yet by wider exposure and success. So that is a good thing. Speaking of sportage, not quite loser of the week is Shannon Sharp. He is out at ESPN after settling a sexual assault lawsuit. This is, I think, a win for the network. He isn't the worst commentator. He's not the most crappish, but that's only because the competition for that title on the World Wide Sports Leader is very fierce I'm sure he'll find work. He's going on podcasts, but for now, he is out at ESPN. So Oh, yeah. Dave: [47:52] All right, Tara, who is your not quite winner of the week? Tara: [47:55] My not quite winner of the week is all of the other stars of Jackass as Bam Margera announces that he has no interest in reuniting with them. And I would say this is a real you can't fire me, I quit situation. Dave: [48:09] You just lost yourself a customer. Tara: [48:11] Right. No one was hoping for this. Like no one was expecting to see your ass again. Like go to rehab. You have problems Not quite loser of the week is Rob Lowe because he decided to make some social content with the story of how, when he was on the West Wing toward the end, When you know the reason that he left was partly because he was mad, he wasn't getting enough screen time. You will recall he submitted himself as a lead actor on that show for awards consideration. This is a thing that is his problem. But he showed his followers that he once made a fake milk carton prop with a missing child notice about Sam Seaborn, which, first of all, tacky about actual missing children on milk cartons. And second, Yes, this was his joke for like people that worked on the show, like, ha ha, I'm the missing child. Dave: [48:58] Wait, because he didn't think he was getting enough exposure lines? Okay, yeah. Ah, that's hilarious. Tara: [49:08] Yeah, do you think this makes you look good? It makes you look like a petulant baby. Like, this is a story no one who didn't work on the show ever had to hear. Although, people who did work on the show probably still tell it: can you believe this asshole? Sarah: [49:20] Oh yeah, I bet that group text lit up. Tara: [49:24] Embarrassing. Total cell phone. Roblo, stop talking. Dave: [49:27] Wow, Jesus. Tara: [49:28] Thank you. Dave: [49:38] Welcome to Extra Credit and welcome to our grandpa subscribers. Just a reminder: if you want to up that pledge, you'll get the I don't know about 55 minutes of show before this. You can go to extrahotgreat. com/slash club to find out more. We thank everybody for their support at whatever level they are at. And this week, extra credit is from me, and I asked who farted. Discuss the T V characters you think have the nastiest farts. Should we just go one by one until we run out? Tara: [50:09] Sure. Sarah: [50:09] Sure. Dave: [50:10] All right, I'll start. The Tasmanian Devil. That guy eats everything and he's always moving around. Who knows what's happening in his stomach, how that stuff's getting digested, if at all. So, Tasmanian Devil, you got nasty farts, sir. Sarah: [50:26] Dwight Shroot of the Office US Well, an opiate constipation, I think, will make yours true. Dave: [50:28] Oh, sure. Yeah, all them beats. Tara: [50:31] Keeping it on the animated tip after Dave's, I'm going to say Homer Simpson of The Simpsons, who only eats vegetables. I'm going to say under duress or by accident. Dave: [50:40] Yeah, he was definitely on my list. For reasons I can't really tell, I think this is more of a personality nasty fart rather than an ingestion nasty fart But sometimes, you know, when you have a certain type of soul, it affects your whole body, including the quality of your farts, which is why I think House from House has nasty farts. And the great thing about those, though, for him is that he can punctuate each one with his cane. Tara: [51:07] Mm, true. I think that's true, yes. Dave: [51:13] Yeah, because they take a long time to get out. Tara: [51:13] Mhm. It's real. Dave: [51:15] And when they do, they've collected all the stink. That's how that works with science. Sarah: [51:19] Mhm. Dave: [51:20] Sarah, what do you got? Sarah: [51:21] There's a bunch of candidates from the show, but I gotta go Charles Boyle from Brooklyn Nine Nine. I think this might actually be Canon for the character. Dave: [51:31] Yeah, all that rich gourmet food. Tara: [51:31] Yeah. Yes, he's a foodie for sure. Dave: [51:33] Yeah. Tara: [51:35] Well, Homer brought me to Professor Hubert Farnsworth from Futurama. God only knows what is going on with that. Hundred-plus-year-old GI tract. If anything moves, it's potentially expelling gas from things that he consumed decades ago. And I'm scared, Dave. Dave: [51:52] And I'll just move down to the obvious actually happens in the show and everybody comments at how bad they are. Jackson Lamb from Slow Horses. Tara: [52:00] Mhm. Dave: [52:01] He's got them stinky farts and he loves them, which is, you know, it's like Austin Powers, Fat Bastard, said everyone loves their own brand. Tara: [52:02] He does. Dave: [52:08] And he is like, he's one of those people. And I appreciate that. And he does in front of his boss. So I appreciate that too. Sarah: [52:13] Mm-hmm. Dave: [52:14] Sarah. Sarah: [52:14] Norm Peterson of Cheers. Dave: [52:15] Yeah. Sarah: [52:17] Come on, Tara. Tara: [52:17] Yeah. Gloria from Girls 5 Eva, she strikes me as someone who occasionally tries to go fully plant-free, but when she falls off the wagon hard. It's with something like a huge steak from that Not Applebee's restaurant she always goes to in the third season. And that's not quality meat, but it's a lot. Sarah: [52:35] No. Tara: [52:35] So good saint Gloria. Back to Dave. Dave: [52:38] All right, I'm going to jump around on my list here. Let's pick for our next one, Michael Weston from Burn Notice. Tara: [52:45] But he's eating yogurt all the time. Dave: [52:47] He's eating yogurt all the time, though. Like, there's a little bit of yogurt in your life, and there's a lot of yogurt in your life. Sarah: [52:49] Yeah, mm-hmm. Tara: [52:52] Okay, you're right. Dave: [52:52] And when there's a lot of yogurt in your Things will change inside of your body and not good changes. You know, there's a threshold: good for you, bad for you. And I think he's on the bad for you side and bad for everybody else around him. I think Michael Weston has some nasty farts. Fair Oh, but also, how do you know, Sarah? Sarah: [53:10] Everybody in the flashbacks on yellow jackets, I mean, PU. Tara: [53:16] Yeah. Sarah: [53:23] I know. Tara: [53:24] Beast Boy from Teen Titans Go, speaking of the plant-based, in his normal form, he is a vegan, so enough said, but he also. Can change into any other animal at will. So he's potentially cycling rapidly through whatever those animals also have going on dietarily. Dave: [53:39] Oh, good point. Tara: [53:41] So maybe it's harmonious with what he consumes. Maybe not. Dave: [53:44] Yeah, 'cause for a person that could eat meat, vegetables, and like fish or krill in the same night, oh, that's a bad combo. My next choice is Shirley from Laverne and Shirley. Pepsi and milk can't be good for you. Sarah: [53:57] Oh, yeah. Keeping it on the cannibal tip. Hannibal. Dave: [54:02] Oh, yeah. Sarah: [54:03] I mean, I know the preparations are delicious, but Oh, my God. Dave: [54:07] But do you think Hannibal is so in tune with how he cooks and sources his stuff that he can avoid it? Tara: [54:14] They are dainty, like elegant portions. Yeah, maybe. Perhaps. I'm going to go with Nick Miller from New Girl. We recently watched the episode where he spends the whole time making his famous sauce and like fanatically stirring it as well, making sure it doesn't stay still for a second. Some sicko on Reddit transcribed the recipe. I'm going to put it in the show notes. I remembered the ingredients baloney And a healthy, long squirt of mayonnaise. But we also see him apparently add green onion tips, matzah, which he calls that flat jew bread, and cake sprinkles. Dave: [54:53] Yeah. Tara: [54:53] I'm so scared of what happens to him after he consumes this. But yeah, there's mustard in it too. Dave: [54:58] There was also mustard. He put mayo and mustard in his red sauce. Yeah. Sarah: [55:02] Oh, must amaze. Tara: [55:04] Dave. Dave: [55:04] My next choice is the Earl of Sandwiches from the pit. You know, Earl on his gurney always asks him for sandwiches. Tara: [55:10] Yes, yes, yes. Dave: [55:12] So I think he gets. An egg salad and a roast beef at least during this one day. So, God knows what was happening to him before he got to the ER, but the fact that they're just summally lining sandwiches into his mouth. I'm going to say Earl has some some pretty nasty farts in him. Sir. Sarah: [55:31] If she eats her own cooking, Drea on Primo. Sorry, girl. Dave: [55:36] Yeah. Sarah: [55:37] I feel like Mondo is also ripping some bombs pretty cheerfully. Could be Canon, not sure. Tara: [55:41] Mm-hmm. Yeah, that seems right. Sarah: [55:43] Tara. Tara: [55:44] My final answer here is going to be Danny Cho from Beef. This is the character played by Stephen Yeon. And the reason is. He's eating those Burger King chicken sandwiches all the time. He's like driving way out of his way to get the ones that he especially likes from like a faraway location. And then he eats them standing next to the car and then has to drive back to wherever he lives with that sitting. I'm worried for him. That's not, that's not a good recipe for GI health. Dave: [56:17] My next choice is Richardson from Deadwood. Sarah: [56:20] No ha All of the male cranes on Frasier, including Eddie, Niles and Frasier, all that stinky fancy cheese and cappuccino foam. Tara: [56:21] Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dave: [56:23] Uh-huh. Tara: [56:24] Yep. Dave: [56:24] Do I need to say anything else? Tara: [56:25] Nope. Dave: [56:25] Probably not. Sarah. Sarah: [56:36] Martin is just a Vulgarian grazer and beer drinker. So, yeah, that living room stinks. Dave: [56:43] So, Tara, you're done. You're out. Tara: [56:45] Yeah, but I just thought of one more. So I mean, I was going to close on beef because the topic is beef, but I'm going to say the vampires from what we do in the shadows, but particularly Colin Robinson, because that's going to be part of his energy vampire He's got no, not because of what he eats. Dave: [57:00] Oh, I see. He's got energy farts. Tara: [57:04] It's because he makes his farts extra gross to distress the people around him, to cause their the bad energy that he does feed on. Dave: [57:08] Oh, I see. All right, my next one. Let's see. I'm going to go with Pampoovi from Archer. Tara: [57:18] Oh, yeah. Sarah: [57:19] Mm, oh my god, yeah. Dave: [57:20] Right? Tara: [57:20] Yes. Yes. Dave: [57:21] Not only does she have stinky farts, but I don't think she ever stops. Tara: [57:24] No, probably not. Dave: [57:25] I mean, poofy sounds like pooty, so I think it's right there in that name. Sarah? Sarah: [57:30] Walter Bishop on fringe. Dave: [57:32] Oh, yeah. Also, what was the name of the cow? Sarah: [57:35] Yeah, Elsie. Dave: [57:36] Elsie, Betsy, something like that. Sarah: [57:37] It's not Elsie. No, yeah. Dave: [57:39] Yeah, the cow as well. All right, Tara's out. Elf. Sarah: [57:43] Yep. I mean, I'm not excluding his father from consideration here, and we saw it on the show, but AJ Soprano. Dave: [57:51] Yeah, I had Tony Soprano, and I was saving it in case you wanted to put a soprano in there. Absolutely. So, my next one's going to be from the Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends cheese. Sarah: [58:01] Oh, cheese, cheese is a ransom. Dave: [58:01] May no cheese. Tara: [58:02] Yay Mhm Yeah, he is Mm-hmm for sure. Dave: [58:04] He's just downing chocolate milk all the time, guys. Sarah: [58:07] I like cereal both Alex and Max unhappy endings. Dave: [58:08] Not good. Sarah. Sarah: [58:16] I mean, I think Max, that might be like canon in the show, but Alex just really seems like she eats a lot of beefy, cheesy things. Dave: [58:24] Yeah. Sarah: [58:25] And it's probably not great for her customers at her little shop. Dave: [58:27] Mm-hmm. Tara: [58:28] Taking ribs to the movies, as I recall. Sarah: [58:30] Mhm, yeah. Dave: [58:31] Well, there's a character on TV that enjoys something called a meat tornado, and that is Ron Swanson. And what is a meat tornado if not a fart? So, Ron Swanson from Parks and Wreck, my next nasty farter, Sarah. Sarah: [58:39] Yeah. Tara: [58:40] Yeah. Sarah: [58:43] I'm out, and I just was reminded of this one a couple minutes ago. Sean from Felicity, because he was like. Means testing smooth A's, and also, I think, actually was the only one who was like, This tofurky is pretty good in the Thanksgiving episode. So, yeah, Sean. To me, that would be one of his charms, but it does seem like with his stupid idea of food testing that there's just a lot of pooting going on in the loft on Felicity. Tara: [59:07] Yeah. To backtrack to Parks and Rec, I'm going to say Andy said, oh, he his diet is terrible. Sarah: [59:14] Mm yep. Dave: [59:15] Yeah, he's the floor scavenger of the show. Tara: [59:17] He yes. Sarah: [59:18] Mm-hmm. Dave: [59:18] Uh-huh. Tara: [59:19] But also Chris, and I think Chris's farts are like also frequent because his diet is very like Uber healthy, and he likes to just farts loudly and does not have any shame about it because it's part of his whole, I am working at maximum capacity at all times, and that includes expelling gas when I need to. Dave: [59:37] Yep, I buy that. All right. Well, I got a bunch still, so let's just buckle in and go for it. Tara: [59:41] Great. Dave: [59:42] Mr. Bates from Downton Abbey. Tara: [59:46] I'm guessing they're serving a lot of mutton in that uh servants' quarter, so yes. Dave: [59:48] You know it. Mm-hmm. Sarah: [59:50] Mm-hmm. Dave: [59:51] Three's companies Larry Dallas Broad City's Ilana Wexler, Alan Partridge, Dan Curtis's Tracula. Tara: [59:53] Yes. Sarah: [59:54] Oh, sure. Tara: [59:55] Yeah. Sarah: [59:55] Yep. Tara: [59:55] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Sarah: [59:58] Mm-hmm. Tara: [1:00:00] Yeah. Sarah: [1:00:01] Mm-hmm. Oh, God, yeah. Oof. Yep. Whiskey poots. Dave: [1:00:11] Saxon Ratcliffe from season three of The White Lotus, all them Spoothy energy power drinks or whatever he's having every morning. Tara: [1:00:15] Mm-hmm. The protein shakes, yeah. Dave: [1:00:20] Yeah, protein shakes. Tara: [1:00:20] Mm-hmm. Dave: [1:00:21] From the first season of Peaky Blinders, Danny Wizbang. That poor guy. Tara: [1:00:25] Yeah, he does no Mm-hmm, flea bag Yeah. Dave: [1:00:26] He's just got a lot of nervous energy, so nothing's getting digested correctly. So it's just garbage in, garbage out for that guy. Fleabag? Sarah: [1:00:35] Oh, yeah. Dave: [1:00:36] Mostly because of her face, saricidal. Two from the boys for his metabolism, A-train. Tara: [1:00:45] Mhm. Dave: [1:00:45] Quick in, quick out. Tara: [1:00:46] Yes. Dave: [1:00:47] And because he's drinking breast milk all the time, Homelander. Tara: [1:00:50] Yeah. Sarah: [1:00:51] Oh, yeah. Oh. Dave: [1:00:53] Somebody already mentioned Brooklyn Night Nine, but my choice from that show was Dina Lanetti Similar, Liz Lemon, teasy blasters, hot dogs. Tara: [1:00:57] Mm-hmm. Sarah: [1:00:58] Mhm. Tara: [1:01:00] Yeah. Sarah: [1:01:01] Mm yeah, no haha Oh, yeah. Tara: [1:01:01] Oh, yeah. Dave: [1:01:03] She's not eating well. Tara: [1:01:03] Mm-hmm. Dave: [1:01:04] Bill McNeil from News Radio loves them mold sandwiches from the vending machine. Both Badger and Skinny Pete from Breaking Bad for his cheese fascination, Urkel. My last two are Frank Reynolds from His Hollywood Sunny in Philadelphia. Tara: [1:01:19] Oh, God. Dave: [1:01:19] He eats cat food at some point, so you know. Tara: [1:01:21] Doesn't he eat a raccoon? Sarah: [1:01:22] Yeah. Oh, oh. Dave: [1:01:23] Imagine your cat farts going through a human. That's what Frank Reynolds farts smell like. Sarah: [1:01:29] Brutal, brutal. Dave: [1:01:30] And finally, the entire cast of Mopland. They all look like they have nasty farts. Tara: [1:01:36] For sure. Sarah: [1:01:36] Yeah. Dave: [1:01:36] All of them. Sarah: [1:01:37] Mhm. Tara: [1:01:38] Oh, God. Dave: [1:01:39] So bad. Tara: [1:01:40] So many scotch eggs. Sarah: [1:01:40] Yeah. Dave: [1:01:42] So, I still don't understand what a scotch egg is. I hear it all the time on every British show, and I still don't really understand what they are and how they can sell them at a gas station all the time. Are they a hard-boiled egg or something? Tara: [1:01:54] I think it's hard boiled and then deep fried, right? Dave: [1:01:57] Okay, but what's the scotch part of it? Is it just from his own Scotland? Is there scotch in it? Tara: [1:02:01] You're asking the wrong person. I doubt it. Dave: [1:02:03] All right, go to a Discord, let Dave know what a scotch egg is. Sarah: [1:02:03] Oh, my God. Dave: [1:02:07] Do not just go to Wikipedia and copy it. I can do that. I want to know from the heart: what's a scotch egg? Well, that's it for another episode of Extra Extra Hot. Great. We said aloha to Chief of Warren S. How's it? before answering your burning ask EHG questions like who's a horse and where's D V Cooper hiding? Tara didn't quite get her tiny sketch chunky cannon in. We celebrated those that weren't quite the best and worst of the week, and wrapped it all up with a sniff about T V's worst theoretical farters. Next up, we've got the King of the Hill reboot with Pamela Ribbon on EHG Prime. Remember I am David T. Clip: [1:02:45] We're listening. Dave: [1:02:50] Cole, and on behalf of Tara Ariano and Sarah D. Tara: [1:02:52] Figure out what you do. Dave: [1:02:56] Bunting, Sarah, come on. Sarah: [1:03:02] Damn it. I was going to try to do a fart noise, but I can't do it if I'm laughing. Dave: [1:03:08] All right, everybody, thank you. We'll see you next time right here on extra, extra hot. Clip: [1:03:14] Back in the water, Kaiya Na spots the shark coming straight for him. He waves his arms and kicks his legs to swim back. He removes the rope from around him as the shark comes. The shark closes in. Kaiyana swiftly wraps the rope noose around the shark and hangs on as the shark pulls him through the water. He pulls himself up the rope and grips the shark's dorsal fin as it swings its body from side to side. This is Extra Hot Great Minis. Today's topic is Rob Lowe does your show. This extra credit topic, pitching from Suli, is as follows. Recently, Dave remarked that The Low Files, Rob Lowe's new family reality show where they explore the paranormal covered on this very fine program, would be greatly enhanced if in the reenactment sequences every part were played by Rob Lowe. This got me thinking what show wouldn't be improved by having Rob Lowe perform every part? None. Every show would be improved thusly. So we have been tasked, panel, with picking a show in which we would like to see Rob Lowe play every single character. How does he change the styling and genre of the show Does he dress in full drag, or is it more a one-person narrative thing? What other considerations are worth mentioning? I will begin I selected the sopranos just for the nicknaming if everybody in the jersey crew is Rob Lowe. Rob Lobianco, Robbie, Big Robbie, Little Robbie, Lolo, Robbie Two Times, Robbie Walnuts, Birdie Boy, Lobianco and if anyone's going to sell the silk shirt and sweatsuit look It's that guy. That's my feeling. Tara. All right, my pick is Barney Miller for a variety of reasons. One, it wouldn't require him to do drag, although he could. He is very pretty, but I think he would enjoy the wigs and mustaches and suits and. Very, very wide ties that this opportunity would afford him. Heather, I was originally going to pick the Bachelorette because I thought the idea of an array of 25 Roblox and different flavors would feel kind of like those direct TV commercials he used to do. Oh God, yes. So that would be, I mean, that's right up there. And then the other one right next to it for me was Gossip Girl because I think he would need to, I think seeing him in Serena's Blonde wig, or more importantly, Blair Waldorf's headbands would be a game changer. Cannot disagree with that.