Should You Sign On To With Love, Meghan?

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We will get you set up with a free year and take you again to the Admiral and to the rest of our generous fleet. You've always made this job one we love, and we thank you for letting us do it. Dave: [2:46] The Patreon is now a battlefield. That's a lot of shit metaphors there. Sarah: [2:52] Yeah. Dave: [2:52] I wanted to add one. Sarah: [2:54] I heard shit metaphors, and that's also true. Anyway, Tara, get me out of this. Tara: [2:58] Okay, our guest today is a writer and a potential Patreon perk you've heard with us many times. It's Stephanie Early Green. Welcome back, Stephanie. Sarah: [3:07] Stephanie. Stephanie: [3:08] Thank you. Tara: [3:13] Since Sarah and I and Stephanie all read Prince Harry's memoir, we basically had to have Stephanie on to talk about With Love, Megan. And Meghan Markle slash Sussex has worn a lot of hats in her career. Dealer No Deal briefcase girl, suits star, Duchess of Sussex, failed podcaster. Now she's returning to the screen in With Love, Megan, in which she demonstrates crafts and dishes that showcase her particular brand of gracious Montecito living. Eight episodes dropped on Netflix Tuesday. We may talk about events from any of them. Let's do the Chen check and Stephanie, should our listeners watch With Love, Megan? Stephanie: [3:56] No, this is bad. Tara: [3:58] Sarah. Sarah: [3:59] Absolutely not. Tara: [4:01] Dave. You suck and. Dave: [4:03] You're wasting my time. Tara: [4:06] I'm going to give a qualified yes, which is if you want to hate watch it, you can. But it's not even interesting enough for that, honestly. Like, it's so blah. It's not even hate watch worthy, really? With the exception of the second episode, the Mindy Kaling one, which I will touch on. But let's get into it. Megan has been plagued by bad press over the years. a lot of it unfair and racist, some of it possibly founded based on a recent and presumably heavily fact-checked Vanity Fair cover story, which we'll link in the show notes. This seems calculated to present her as warm and unthreatening, the show, I mean, but Stephanie, is it too soft? Stephanie: [4:45] Soft is not the word I'd use. It's like so boring. She's trying to thread the needle between between being a princess like a literal princess who has more money than god and lives in a beautiful mansion which we never see but fine like an equivalently beautiful mansion she's filming in some someone else's mansion but whatever so she's trying to kind of like be a princess and have a lifestyle that no one could ever attain but she's also trying to be like a regular gal and the result is just it's not for anyone it's like no one owns bees no one has a shelf full of candle vessels in their home no one makes their own bath salts unless they're you know in maine and using them for other purposes allegedly so the craft she's doing aren't attainable but like also she's not interesting and there's nothing there. Dave: [5:41] Yeah nothing there is the way to explain it, I think. Tara: [5:44] Yeah. Dave: [5:44] The whole production looks like one of those stage photos on like Instagram or something where it's like, it's soulless. It's the same as everything else you've seen and nothing new is being brought to the table. It's just that for the whole shebang. Sarah: [5:58] I mean, I know that this is my go-to for stuff like this now, and I'm probably overusing it, but it's like Pond 5 made in HGTV show. Dave: [6:08] Kind of, yeah. Sarah: [6:09] I believe it was our esteemed colleague, Catherine Van Arundonk, who in her review said that this was a journey to the heart of nothing. And that's exactly it. And I think what's not even frustrating, because like Tara said, it doesn't even sink to the level of inspiring really any reaction, except I'll never get that 30 minutes back. But it's like there seems to be this drive with the two of them to prove their worth in some like grand artistic or cultural way that's like that's not for everyone to do. And it's not required. And your attempts are wasting everyone's time and money, as Dave's clip attested. And there's just something about this that's like, she refuses to commit to any personality outside of this crisp, unscented linen thing, which is like, that's not a personality. I've always loved to cook. First of all, I don't believe you. Second of all, that's not a personality. You could just be basic by yourself and not make anybody else care. Go do that. Dave: [7:18] It feels like it could have been, this could have been the world's first full AI show. Like it has that sort of stain to it where it's like, it's so generic and it feels so much like a formula of everything that's come before it in that weird way where it's like, well, now it's nothing. It has that sort of feel to it. I don't know if it's because she's royalty now that there is like a whole bunch of things that they dare not do, such as show genuine emotion or stuff like that. Like there seems to be a lot of like the crown, like in here where it's like, here's the things you can't do, like be a human. Like, okay, that's number one. Tara: [7:56] Yeah. Dave: [7:56] That seems to be like the through line here. Like there is nothing here that tells me that she is a personality. Yeah. Yeah. In either, like, the personality, celebrity sense of the word, or just, like, in her day. Like, is she just super bored and she's looking for something to do? And, like, they're in Hollywood, so let's do Hollywood things? Is that why this show exists? Like, it seems to be, but she's not good at it. Tara: [8:20] Right. Dave: [8:20] And she also just seems to be repackaging other things into containers, and that's the show. I take things out of one thing, I put them in another thing. Throw the first thing. With love, Megan. Sarah: [8:33] And how long has it been since she's been around fucking civilians that she thinks peanut butter pretzels are this well-kept secret? Like, oh my God. Dave: [8:43] I went to my friend Joseph. He's a traitor. And I went into his building and I got some of these pretzel nuggets that my friend Joseph got from the world. Sarah: [8:54] Yeah. Dave: [8:54] Like, okay, here's some questions for you. Do you like slow motion bees? Tara: [8:59] Check. Dave: [9:00] Do you like rich people worrying about the bee population on their non-functional farm? Check. Do you like rich people worrying about throwing parties? Check. Like, these are the beats of the first five minutes of the show. And it's like already so out of touch with what you'd want out of something like this. Tara: [9:18] Yeah. Well, let's talk about that part of it, Stephanie. Stephanie: [9:20] Yeah. Well, I mean, I was thinking about this and I'm like, she's trying to go for like a Martha Stewart lane. But at least with Martha, she actually did do that herself. She got into the position she's in because she's legitimately really good at all of the homemaking, cooking, baking, flower arranging, gardening. She is a genuine dynamo at that stuff. Megan got where she is by being pretty and marrying Prince Harry. And so there's not the buy-in there for like, why should we trust any homemaking tips you have? Like, that's problem A. Problem B, we've already discussed where she has zero personality. She says stuff like, I love birdsong. You know, it's just like... Sarah: [10:03] How about guard? Stephanie: [10:04] Or like, we'll get into this, Tara, because I heard you mention the Mindy Kaling episode, which I also watched. And Mindy Kaling is like trying her damnedest to bring some spark and personality to the show. And Megan is like a black hole for humor. Like she's humorless. And she says stuff like in England, they call ladybugs ladybirds. And I'm like, wow, you know, like these are this is the level of like insight and I guess humor that she's trying to bring to the show. And it just doesn't work. So, I mean, it comes off as so utterly, like Dave said, out of touch, and she's not bringing anything genuine, like, why are we listening to you? Why do we want to know how you, the goofy way you boil pasta by like pouring water over it? I mean, it's just like, none of it seems something I would try to do at home because I don't believe she does any of this stuff at home either. Tara: [10:54] Yeah. Dave: [10:55] After watching the first episode and seeing all the things she does, I said to Tara, four months ago before this was filmed, there was a whole bunch of people in the room said, quick, what can we have somebody who really doesn't do any of this stuff do? Okay, pour wax into a cup and make a candle. That's pretty good, but she can do that. Can't she boil pasta? Probably. Will she explain boiling water to her friend? Yes. And there's a list of these sort of things. Mixing salts to make bath salts. Like, okay, like these are all things anybody can do within two seconds of figuring out what's involved with it. And that also plays into it, where it's like, there's obviously no expertise here. She's not bringing anything genuine, not bring anything personal to the table. There's no grandma's ex I now share with you. No, this is like probably bought a Martha Stewart book and just slowly going through it. Tara: [11:48] The show. I mean, Catherine mentioned that in her review too, which we'll link in the show notes, that there's no indication of who made these recipes. And the out-of-touch-ness is part of it for sure, obviously, but there's also, especially the Mindy Kaling episode, there's something sort of melancholy about it because the whole thing is fake. She says three times in the first episode, this is not my house. And, you know, there's a people cover story as well, which we'll also link to where she explains like, well, you know, that's our private sanctuary. I didn't want 80 crew people in it. And like, fair enough. Like, I would have assumed even if she hadn't said it that they weren't filming in their actual house for a variety of reasons, like security foremost. But in the Mindy Kaling episode where she, by the way, describes Mindy Kaling or Netflix does in the blurb as like fellow toddler mom. Like, yeah, that's the first thing I think of when I think Mindy Kaling. Fuck off. Dave: [12:44] You know what I think of when I think of Mindy Kaling? Tara: [12:47] Okay. Don't play the whole thing. I have more to say. All right. Well, this show is the second worst thing that Mindy Kaling ever did. Following that theme song. But anyway, so the premise of this one is like, I'm going to have Mindy over because she also has toddlers. And I'm going to show her what I would do for a kid's party, which this isn't. Like, there's no kids anywhere. And like, there's this, it's so, it's just so uncanny. And like, it makes you feel so uncomfortable watching her do all this prep for like her and Mindy, like making finger sandwiches. And by the way, like sprinkling them with little edible flower bits. Like, I don't know anything about children. I know if you put anything on their food, they don't know what it is. They're going to get mad and not want to eat it. I feel like that's kid 101. Sarah: [13:41] That's not toddler shit. Sorry. Tara: [13:43] Right. But then they have a whole segment that's like how to make a fruit rainbow. And it's literally put fruit in arches on a board. We don't need instructions for this. I wish I could have been in the room while Martha Stewart watched this, just doing the jerk off motion, because these are not things you need instructions for. And even when the producer who by the way like formerly worked on anthony bourdain parts unknown so prayers up for this person but oh my god has to like watch megan set you know do this whole thing for a party and then be like you can do a mini version for kids like any day of the week and then even though it's so hard we're all working and then off screen the producer again like mindy tries to help her by being like you know on saturdays and megan's like yeah it's almost a what's a weekend moment where she's like doesn't understand yeah a working parent who has three kids to get to school in the morning is not doing all this shit just for fun on a wednesday like the kids don't care no. Sarah: [14:40] It Stephanie: [14:40] Was so unrelatable. Sarah: [14:42] Part of the problem which is sort of what everyone has been saying like and martha sometimes struggled to like bring this down to what civilians could actually. Tara: [14:53] Yeah of course do like. Sarah: [14:55] I remember one segment where she's talking about like painting a like crosshatch pattern on the floor of your porch and she's like so you fire up your belt sander and it's like your. Tara: [15:06] Belt sander she. Sarah: [15:08] Also understood that first of all there would be this blend of like you actually can do this and you should aspire to like getting these bigger tools and really like getting into contractor mode yourselves. Tara: [15:20] Like she understood. Sarah: [15:22] How to blend those things. Tara: [15:24] Yeah. Sarah: [15:25] I think the only thing that Megan might have to offer that anyone else pretty and with a $110 petal pink manicure might not is the uniqueness of her situation and that she's not leaning into like, you can't actually do this at home. Like, I picked this turmeric myself or whatever it is. It's like, no, get into the we can't relate, we can only aspire, and then make a thing about how every guest had to go through 15 security checks and is meeting you in a bunker where you're wearing cashmere pajamas and you're already drunk. Like, just lean into that. But I can just imagine that Prince Harry kind of still not wanting to alienate the company entirely is like, oh, no, she can't have any personality or have more than a swallow of a champagne cocktail. And it's like, well, then why are we here? Tara: [16:22] I don't get the impression it's him. I think she's just like, there's so little she can do that will be seen as palatable, I think. And that's part of the melancholy of it, too. Like, none of this comes naturally to her. She's clearly not a, you know, a homemaker who has learned all this stuff on her own. But she's also just like not a yapper. She's not good at talking either, which is why the podcast didn't work, I would imagine. I never listened to it. So yeah, this is true. I mean, Stephanie, you're so right when you're like, this is for no one. Stephanie: [16:50] Yeah knowing that she has zero personality or at least is willing to share zero percent of her personality they tried to bring in guests that she could you know banter with that she's incapable of doing that and at least in the first episode her guest was as boring as she was that dude had nothing to say yes. Tara: [17:11] He was real dull. Stephanie: [17:12] She put him through his paces like she kind of like snapped at him while they were making the candle. And that was the one glimmer that of like Megan's actual personality that we saw. But he can't carry the show. And Mindy Kaling was kind of shut down in her attempts at bringing levity to it. So like it's just dead in the water. I don't know. I thought it was really bad. Tara: [17:34] Yeah. Premiering this and the Baldwins within a week of each other is really like there's the two horrible poles of the celebrity reality. experience. Stephanie: [17:43] Oh my God. Tara: [17:44] Yeah. Stephanie: [17:44] In some ways this is like Hilaria-esque. Tara: [17:47] Yes. Stephanie: [17:47] I don't, I don't know why I thought that. I think it's the fake homemaker aspect of it where Hilaria has all these videos of her like making like spinach pancakes for her children. And I'm like, you're not, you don't do this, eh? It was that. And also the, there was a bit of, um, out of touchness and like pronouncing words weirdly and I don't know what what was your vibe like why did you think it reminded you of Hilaria. Tara: [18:13] Yeah I mean I think there this is the less dark-sided version just because it has no no sides really but it's it's both in both cases this is a woman who's trying to reclaim her public image by trying to be I mean the word I used earlier was like soft as soft as possible and seeing Hilaria with all her kids just experiencing this horrible thing as a family doing all the normal things. I think that's what Megan is trying to do here too, where it's just like, I'm just a mom, you know, and calling Mindy Kaling a fellow toddler mom is the same sort of thing. It's like, she's not only that, she's a very powerful TV producer, you know? But in both cases, I think it's pretty clear it has not worked because no one buys what you're selling. And this is this version of your image, even though it's what you're trying to replace the bad one with is so polished that there's no surface to it anymore. It's like, there's, there's nothing to see. So it's a failure. Also, fuck a naked cake. Dave: [19:16] This great theme music can mean only one thing. It is time for a little segment we like to call Ask EHG. All right, let's get to your Ask Ask EHG from last week. It was from Jovial Gent who asked, which TV couple who started as friends before becoming romantic partners worked better just as friends? Everybody has an answer for me today, so let's start with Sarah. Sarah: [19:53] Well, I mean, I could say Joey and Dawson, but I'll save it for another podcast. I'm actually going to go with Josh and Donna on the West Wing, even though I'm not totally sure that counts because of the collegial aspect. I'm not saying the actors didn't sell the chemistry between them. I'm not saying I wouldn't hate Fuck Josh Lyman, even though he's kind of the absolute worst all the time. But once you spend any time with his character and hers, you just want better for Donna. And I don't feel that that show was improved by pairing them up. So that is my answer. Dave: [20:26] Did you see that guy's balls? They were weird. Tara. Tara: [20:30] Bobby and Athena on 9-1-1. And if you've ever watched the show, you know I'm right. And I don't need to say anything else. Dave: [20:37] Yeah, that's more like they're just bad chemistry. I don't know if they were like super great as friends before that. Tara: [20:41] That's true. Dave: [20:42] Point taken. All right, Stephanie, what do you have here? Stephanie: [20:45] Okay, this might ruffle some feathers, but I'm going to say Pam and Jim from the American office. They were fun to root for before they got together. And then they were fine for about a season. And then they became unbearably smug and up their own asses for the rest of the run of the show. And it made me like want justice for Karen Filippelli by the end of it. I was like, you know what? I want Jim to get back together with her because I hate how smug and awful these two are as a married couple. Tara: [21:16] She was fun on that show. You're right. Stephanie: [21:18] She was. Dave: [21:19] Thank you, everybody. Here is some answers from the Discord. Lee in Chicago said J.D. and Elliot on Scrubs. Diana Joy, Ted and Robin on How I Met Your Mother. Justice for Tracy the Mother. LaJulia24 said Ross and Rachel on Friends. They could have done a whole Friends and Co-Parents thing and just let Rachel move to Paris. But no, they had her ditch her great career for Ross. Makes face. That's in brackets. Tara: [21:44] We don't know what happens. She just got off the plane. Maybe he moved with his... Dave: [21:49] Ooh, struck a chord with world's biggest friends defender, Tara Arianna. Elspath said Mika and Pete on Warehouse 13. I don't know what any part of that means. Jesse, Scalder, and... Sculder? Jesse! Scully and Mulder on The X-Files. Beez or Laura said George and Izzy on Graze. Lucy, Jake, and Amy on Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Yeah, that's a good one. Tara: [22:16] They were my runners up. Stephanie: [22:17] I agree with that one. Dave: [22:18] Darren agreed with Sarah, Josh, and Donna on The West Wing. And I honestly have no super strong feelings on this topic, so I've elected to let the people decide our winner. So with a mess load of 100 emojis on the Discord, our winner is Odd Nuts, who said, Eleanor and Chidi on The Good Place. They had excellent friend chemistry, but fizzled as a couple. Tara: [22:40] Wow. Stephanie: [22:40] Yes. Tara: [22:41] Aw, nuts. Too peeding. Dave: [22:43] Yep. All right. So, aw, nuts. I don't know, you know, we can send you double the stickers or, you know, just, you know, whatever. You're entitled to them. So if you want them, you let me know on the Discord. All right. Let's get to your questions for all of us this week. First one comes from a new questionnaire, Dr. Pepper, PhD. I always thought that Dr. Pepper's first name would be Cornelius. Tara: [23:04] Sure. Dave: [23:05] Just kind of works. Dr. Cornelius Pepper. What occupation or profession deserves to have the bear style prestige show made about it? So we've answered this question before without the bear aspect of. So let's add the beariness and let's hear from Tara first. Tara: [23:21] Yeah. So I interpreted that as being a show that takes the occupation seriously and goes extremely granular researching and portraying every part of it. But that is also funny for a while. And my occupation is elder care, like cheers. This would permit a variety of different kinds of people to bump up against each other who would never possibly meet. Otherwise, it's possible to do without it turning out too sad, which a man on the inside showed us. Although, you know, that's sadness is part of it, as on the bear. People with a wide variety of skills and training have to make a facility run smoothly. And it's probably a good idea for us who are only close to being elderly to get a processy look at how all this stuff works. So that was my pick, Sarah. Sarah: [24:05] Well, maybe deserves is not quite right, and it's just something I want to watch. But I would like a period piece about early to mid-70s newspaper-ing at a major city newspaper. It can be a real one. It doesn't have to be. A lot of TV and movies about periodicals do not get it right because they feel like they can't and keep it interesting. But the ones that do are legend, and if it is cross-cessily accurate. I would be super into it. On that note, though, I have watched all the President's Ben so many times that I can recite not just dialogue, but also sound design elements for when people are like walking around. So I have some problems and maybe I'm not a good, maybe I'm not a good answerer of this. Tara: [24:48] I would say this is not exactly what you're pitching, but it might scratch the same itch, but the Newsreader, which is set in TV news in Australia in the early 80s. Sarah: [24:57] Oh yeah, that's on the list. I'm going to bump it up. All right, thank you. Dave: [25:01] So my metric was something that is relatable that turns annoying as the pretentiousness of all involved goes into the red and makes me wish for the failure of the business. So that's what I'm, that's my goal here. So starts off kind of interesting, something that maybe I don't have personal experience with, but then I'm like, fuck everybody involved. I hope you all burn. So who is that? Is it audiophiles? Could be. Is it coffee people? Maybe. Sarah: [25:28] Is it fashion designers? Dave: [25:29] Perhaps. apps, I settled on cinephiles. Because when you get a true cinephile, they are the most annoying people on earth. And if you had a group of them, you'd want to see it all burn. So I'm going to go with cinephiles. I don't know how that is a profession exactly. It's more of a hobby. Stephanie: [25:47] Critics. Dave: [25:47] Yeah. But like cinephiles are like beyond critics, right? Like critics like sold out somehow to a cinephile. Like cinephiles are speaking truth to power. Stephanie: [25:57] You know, maybe people who run like an indie theater or something. Dave: [25:59] Yeah, yeah. That's probably a good setting for it. All right, Stephanie, what do you have? Stephanie: [26:03] So I went with figure skating coaches. Maybe set in suburban Detroit. I don't know where I'm getting that from, but I figure skated for eight years. I think there's a lot of potential for like cattiness, backstabbing, simmering resentment, and it would be fun to watch the skating. So I don't actually watch the bear, but as far as I understand, you need some sort of continuous stakes where they're always prepping for like the next big thing. Skating, you have ice shows, you have competitions, you could have different like skating celebrities visiting, you could have people scouting for the Olympics or Disney on ice or whatever. So there would be a constant, you know, churn of like events or competitions that they'd be training or prepping for. And I just think it would be fun. Tara: [26:48] Yeah, that sounds great. Dave: [26:49] Michelle has our next question. Late on this, but theorizing that Noel Fielding won't be back for Bake Off this year. Who should take his place? Yeah, did we ever get a follow-up on that thing? Why he just disappeared from that show? Tara: [27:01] No, his team said he would be back on Bake Off, but Bake Off has not said anything, so TBD. Dave: [27:07] All right, so let's assume that he's not coming back. Who will replace him? Sarah? Sarah: [27:12] Colin Farrell. Dave: [27:13] Wow. Sarah: [27:13] He's a fox. I think his energy is a good compliment to Allison's, and I don't know why, but I feel like Colin Farrell would just take the job super seriously and be an actor bullshit empath about everything with the bakers, but in a really charming way. And also, if it's not charming, he's hot. And it's only a season, so why not? The Penguin for the win. Dave. Dave: [27:35] For all the same reasons, Richard Kind. Tara: [27:38] Mmm, yeah. Sarah: [27:39] Love that. Dave: [27:40] Stephanie. Stephanie: [27:41] Okay, so I was trying to think we need a British comedian who can get along well with others without making the show all about themselves, which seems to be the deadliest pitfall for past Bake Off hosts. And they should be actually funny, which is a tall order. So I was thinking about drawing from the ranks of people who have also been on the IT crowd and Richard Ayoade, like, what's he up to these days? He might be good. I'm going in a different direction. Jennifer Saunders. I feel like she's not in anything. And I think her energy would be charming in that setting. Sarah: [28:13] I like that. Dave: [28:14] All right. Tara: [28:14] Just as a thought experiment while I was doing this, I tried to imagine someone who would not have chemistry with Alison Hammond. And I couldn't. I feel like. Sarah: [28:22] Yeah. Tara: [28:23] You could make Megan Markle. Yeah. Well, even Allison, I think, could make it work. But I also went the female comedian route. I thought it would be fun to get back to an all-female host panel. So I'm going to suggest Katie Wicks from Taskmaster and Ghosts and Stav Let's Floss. Dave: [28:39] Very good. Jack has our next question for me. Dave, how has your workflow as a producer slash editor changed over the past decade plus of making EHG Mark II? Has anything become easier or more difficult with time? I won't bore you with all the details, but the biggest change has been, as I found faster ways to do things, I used that time saved to invest in editing. Dave: [29:02] The show more real-time, more manually. So as the years went by, I was able to do things like remove more filler words or reduce the pause in between thoughts, reducing the inhale volume, clearing up crosstalk, and that kind of stuff, which all make the podcast better, in my opinion. And so I do all that at double X speed. I listen to the podcast in real double X speed time. And that's how I edit it. So I'll listen, I'll stop, I'll do a quick cut because somebody did something, then move on. So that is the biggest thing that has changed over the years. Dr. Cornelius Pepper, PhD, is back. We're bookending the questions for us with him. Tara: [29:41] Or her. Or them. Dave: [29:43] No, it's Cornelius. What TV characters would you want on your bar trivia team? Get a lot of thought. So I'm going to go with Q from Star Trek. Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen. Because they can do anything. So instant win. And just keep everyone on their toes. I'm going to go with a Yabashigi from Shogun. I don't know why. I just think he'd be fun in a bar. He likes a drink, but also he's duplicitous. So he would keep the thing interesting. Tara: [30:14] Well, he would cheat or if you lost, he would just cut someone's head off. Dave: [30:17] Yep. Stephanie, what do you have bar trivia team TV characters? Stephanie: [30:21] So the thing with bar trivia is that you need teammates to round out your knowledge gaps. And I do online trivia and I'm very aware of my own shortcomings. So I would need on my team someone who knows sports, math, and classical music. So I picked one person for each of those categories. Not a ton of candidates for math, but I think the obvious choice is Sheldon. Not young Sheldon, grown-up Sheldon. Sometimes the obvious choice is the correct choice. For sports, I'm going to go with any of the guys from the league. Doesn't matter which one. They all know more about sports than I do. For classical music, we're either going with Lord Crawley from Downton Abbey or Bugs Bunny. It's just a question of which one would perform better under pressure. So probably Lord Crawley. Yeah. I think he'd know his classical music. Dave: [31:09] Totally. Tara: [31:10] I had the exact same thought that Stephanie did. What are the gaps in my knowledge? And I, like Stephanie, I'm also very aware of mine. So sports was right up top. I went with Dan Rydell from Sports Night, the Josh Charles character, because even if he doesn't know that much about sports, just as a sports newscaster, he's cute. And that's enough. For history, I'm going to go with Mark Corrigan from Peep Show. For math, I went with Lisa Miller from NewsRadio. That's one of her special talents. For science, I went with Lem and Phil from Better Off Ted. For classical music, I went with Bertha Russell, a veteran of the opera wars, of course. And for old movies that are outside my sphere of knowledge, I went with Jay Sherman, the critic. It sucks. Sarah. Sarah: [31:54] For my sports guy to do everything that isn't baseball, which I think he doesn't care about, canonically, Bulldog Briscoe from Frasier. Games and Game Theory, Patterson from Blindspot. Remember that show? and her. She would also be a rules cop, but sweet about it. Mycroft Holmes from Sherlock seems like a smart guy with a lot of knowledge of civics and political stuff. Lester Freeman from The Wire seems like he reads a lot and just will know random shit that you're not expecting. And for the geography and world history, the ghost of Anthony Bourdain. Tara: [32:30] Can't believe none of us said Bobby Gorin. Sarah: [32:32] Oh, yeah. Dave: [32:33] Yeah. He could have been my third. He fits in with Q and Dr. Manhattan, for sure. All right. Ears open for the Ask Ask EHG question. It comes from Seekent this week. Seekent asks, there are actors who no one thinks much about, but are good in almost everything, get remarked for it, and then are forgotten about it till the next project. You know who's really good in this? James Marsden. Who is your James Marsden? That is the question. So who fits the bill for you personally? Go to the Discord, find the Ask Ask EHG channel, plop your answer there and we'll be back soon-ish with judgments, Dave: [33:10] That tiny quick music means that it's time for the extra hot great Tiny Cannon, presented this week by Tiny Tar. Tara: [33:19] Yes, I am pitching to the sketch Tiny Cannon, and this pitch concerns a sketch from Saturday Night Live, Season 38, Episode 18, Vince Vaughn slash Miguel. Here's why I think it's cannon worthy. Number one, it takes us inside an important historical moment. There are pivotal events in human history that, because they weren't recorded and because the participants themselves might not have realized were momentous, we can never truly understand. But art has the power to imagine how they may have occurred. One such piece of art is the sketch Round Ball Rock. We open in the offices of NBC Sports. It's 1990, and the network needs a new theme song for the NBA on NBC. So an executive named Mr. Lavender, played by Vince Vaughn, brings in John Tesh, Jason Sudeikis, who introduces his brother Dave Tesh, Tim Robinson, clip one. I did not know that you had a brother. Oh, yeah. You know, he's not just my brother. He's also. Tara: [34:46] Three, four. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-basketball, gimme, gimme, gimme the ball because I'm gonna dunk it! Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-basketball, How could this iconic piece of TV music we all know have reached us in a different form? Roundball Rock lets us all speculate. Number two, okay, but seriously, it's just really funny and stupid. The writer of the sketch, which I assume is Robinson with or without his writing partner, Zach Cannon has obviously researched what John Tesh looked like when he performed live in the 90s because these vests and wigs are on point, as is Sudeikis' take on Tesh's passionate keyboarding. Sidebar, it's a shame Sudeikis is allegedly a bad person in real life because he really was a great sketch performer in his day. But anyway, Mr. Lavender has a request, clip two. You know what? I was wondering, is there any way we can hear it again, but, you know, with the lyrics separated out? Sure, we can do that. All right, here we go. Uh, all right, uh, two, three, four. Stephanie: [36:10] Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh, basketball, give it, give it, give it. No, no, no, no, no, no. Stop. I'm sorry, guys, guys. I don't... I'm sorry. Stop that. I think. Tara: [36:21] Oh. Um, I defer to you. Uh, my gut is no. Stephanie: [36:28] I understand. You're an artist, and I get that. But I think we're just curious what it would sound like without the. Tara: [36:55] Oh, please, please. Dave, I couldn't help but notice that, little repetitive. Uh, basketball's a little repetitive. Mr. Lavender loves the Tesha spirit, but unless they deliver an instrumental version, there's no deal. Clip three. Oof. Wow. Wow. Wow. Okay. All right. Well, you. Tara: [37:40] How about that? What do you think, Dave? I am one step ahead of you, brother. Oh, hammer time. Dave, you should have a tiny hammer. You don't have to do this. Note, Vaughn has been holding the mug self-consciously throughout the sketch, but it was apparently built too solid because when Dave Tesh hits it with his little hammer, it doesn't quite smash. But anyway, by the time John starts covering his keyboard with gasoline, NBC executive Reggie, Kenan Thompson, gets caught up in the emotion clip four. That's right. Burn it down, Teshers. No, Reggie. Don't encourage him. Teshers. Tara: [38:20] Get with me! Get with me! Oh my God, what have we done? We did it again. Oh no. Look, we did not want this to go this way. And why did, Because we thought it might go this way. Dave very bravely tells John to make the deal without him. All he needs is the best brother in the world. They hug and clip five. Now that's what I call a slam dunk. This sketch starts with a gorgeous premise supported by the aforementioned hilarious wigs and costuming, heightens in a logically illogical way, and ends right on time, which I'm going to say is something you can only say about SNL sketches 12% of the time. Watching it in retrospect, we can also say it's a sparkling proof of concept for the kind of lunacy we later see in I Think You Should Leave. Now that's what I call a slam dunk of Tiny Cannon. bitch. Thank you very much. Dave: [39:17] Thank you, Tara. Stephanie, why don't you start us off here? Stephanie: [39:20] Okay. Well, I mean, this is an easy yes for me. I love everything Tim Robinson does. His delivery of my gut is no, uh, gave me like an actual laugh every time I watched it. I mean, the lyrics are so stupid. They're so dumb. They're so repetitive. And the idea that this is a lyrics for a song and it was based on like a poem. I mean, it reminds me of Carly Rae Jepsen saying that call me maybe started off as like a little indie tune that she was singing in coffee shops and stuff. And I'm like, it's perfect. People who write music often take themselves super seriously and it captured that really well. The costuming was great. I did a double take when I saw Jason Sudeikis at first. I was like, wait, is that John Tash? It really looked like him. It was startling and wonderful. It was great. I thought it was so funny. And yes, good note on it ending at the right time, because often these things limp along past the point where they were not funny anymore. So good presentation, Tara. Tara: [40:23] Thank you. Dave: [40:24] Thank you, Stephanie. I will go next. My favorite part is, that's right, burn it down, Tessh's, upon re-watching this, probably for the third or fourth time. Something about that really made me laugh. I will take exception that this is a perfectly timed sketch. It's five minutes long. It's pretty long. I think the great bit of it is the song with the lyrics, but it suffers, I say, from Saturday Night Live, stretch-itis. I really enjoyed the ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-basketball. That part is complete madness, and I think it kind of gets unnaturally extended after that. While I do enjoy it, I don't think it's quite canon-worthy for me. If it was on a different show that had the permission to make it a one-minute sketch, I think it would have been dynamite. Sarah. Tara: [41:07] All right. Sarah: [41:08] My brother and I, when we worked together at his music rehearsal space, had a partner who used to say, Buntings, you don't have to do this all the time. And one of my favorite things about this sketch is the Tesh's-ness of it all and how that keeps coming up. I will also say, Vince Vaughn in this atmosphere, it is hard to control Vince Vaughn. It is easy to just let him do too much because that's what Vince Vaughn does. That's one of the things that I liked about the show that he was in, whose name I've already forgotten. Tara: [41:43] Bad Monkey. Sarah: [41:43] That it sort of like understood what he is, but knew how to control him and not put him right in the center all the time. And his line deliveries here and the fact that he's not the biggest performance on screen, I think are perfect and advised. His delivery of stop that is just really is really good and like i know it's just a little thing but when he's sort of given permission to be in the shade of tim robinson being gigantic and tim robinson screamy it's really good alchemy and it really is just very dumb and the little vests and the sort of like tuxedo button collarless shirts like oh my god uh-huh that it's so Tesh is. They actually did have to do this. So, yeah, great presentation, and this was a delight to revisit. Shall we vote? Dave: [42:35] Let's make this official. Stephanie Earlygreen, what say you, tiny and canon worthy or not? Stephanie: [42:41] I say yay. Dave: [42:42] Alright, I'm going to give this one a pass, but I don't think it matters. Sarah? Sarah: [42:46] Nope, it's a deal for me. Tara: [42:48] Yay! Dave: [42:48] Alright, so... Round Ball Rock from Saturday Night Live, you are hereby inducted into the Extra Hot Great Tiny Sketch Cannon. Dave: [43:00] Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Nope. We have winners and losers of the week in the main show. So today we are discussing the not quite winners and losers of the week. Our seconds, our thirds. I will go first with my not quite winners of the week. I got three. First one, Poker Face. Season two, adding among others, blah, blah, blah, Richard Kind. Tara: [43:25] Yeah. Dave: [43:25] Also future host on the Great British Bake Off. So he is busy. That's good. That's a good ad. Looking forward to that. Always happy to see Richard Kind doing stuff for me to watch. Number two, Tracy Morgan reuniting with 30 Rock people, Tina Fey, Robert Carlock, Sam Meads in a new comedy pilot where he plays a football player. Was it Disgrace? Did I read Disgrace football. Tara: [43:50] Ex-football player? Yes. Sidebar, I mentioned when I talked about the Baldwins that one of the 30 Rock writers faved my mean Blue Sky post about the show. And it was Sam Means. So congrats to him. Dave: [44:01] It's right in his name. Third winner, The Last of Us, adding a whole bunch of people to season two. But once again, I saw they're adding Joey Pants. And I was like, I thought that fucker was dead. We just talked about that fucker not being dead about four months ago in this very same segment. I saw Joey Pants got on something. And I was like, good for him. Still alive. Somebody told me he was alive four months ago. I posted that information since then. I assumed he was dead. He's alive again. Good on you, Joey Pants. Loser, not quite of the week, is around the horn. Canceled at ESPN after 23 years. Sarah, anybody, what do you think of that? Sarah: [44:43] About time, honestly. Dave: [44:45] Stephanie. Too slow, Tara. I was doing a bit. I'm actually not quite sure what I'm thinking of it. Tara: [44:51] No, it is. Dave: [44:51] Here we go. Okay. All right, Tara, what do you think? Tara: [44:53] Sounds good. Dave: [44:55] Sarah. Sarah: [44:56] Okay, my not quite winner of the week is my one of my birthday mates, Keegan-Michael Key, joining season five of Only Murders in the Building, which recently guest starred David T. Cole. Dave: [45:09] Richard Kind. Sarah: [45:10] So yeah, that's excellent casting and I am excited. My not quite loser of the week is actually a huge loser prince's estate as you probably know after like years of working on it by ezra edelman they basically like canceled the netflix documentary and we're like no this isn't sufficiently hagiographic so said director went off in an interview and just was like this is a whole trend of celebrity documentary series that cooperate with slash make deals with their subjects. So you get a puff piece and gold being blown up the culo and everything. So he got pretty specific and quite direct. And this guy won a bunch of awards for OJ Made in America. Maybe you should just trust him. But they didn't. So he went off and good for him. Tara. Tara: [46:03] Another Netflix documentary that cooperated with his subjects was Harry and Megan, famously. That is worth hate watching if that's what you're after, by the way. Sarah: [46:12] Yeah. Tara: [46:13] I mean, it's bad, but it's a better hate watch. My Not Quite Winner of the Week, we're still in the basketball mode and now here again because Running Point, which just premiered a week ago today as we're recording this, has already been renewed for a second season at Netflix. So yay, we all liked it. So that's good news. Sarah: [46:28] That's pleasing. Tara: [46:29] My Not Quite Loser of the Week, recently we had an Ask EHG question about how you can tell apart The Night Agent and The Recruit. And here's one way The Recruit got canceled. Dead after two seasons. So no more is it true that if his hair is dark and cute, you are watching The Recruit. Stephanie. Stephanie: [46:46] My not quite winner is the unlikely Arrested Development movie for which Matt Damon pitched himself to Jason Bateman, in which he would play a movie within a movie version of Michael Bluth. Personally, I am willing to suspend my disbelief over that premise, like that anyone would want to make a movie about the Bluth family in order to see Matt Damon have fun with this concept. I am a little gun shy, though, because the writers and arguably some of the actors looking at you, Portia de Rossi, bungled the last season of Arrested Development so, so badly. And, you know, there's no more Jessica Walters. That's kind of devastating. But, you know, I'm willing to give them a shot with this. Stephanie: [47:26] And my not-quite-loser is Bachelor co-EPs Michael Margolis and Keely Booth resigning amid controversy around the franchise. These were people who worked on the post-production story side of the show, and I looked into this. They were arguably hired under sketchy circumstances because Margolis was married to EP Claire Freeland. The other one, Booth, is an old friend of Freeland's. I don't know why they resigned. I couldn't figure that out from the article, but The Bachelor has been plagued with many controversies recently. And last month, ABC announced it was putting The Bachelorette on pause, which, as I know from the world of Housewives, that often means killing forever. So personally, I'm kind of fine with that. I stopped watching The Bachelor after Joey's season, mostly because it was impossible to top Joey. Stephanie: [48:16] But also because I didn't care about the woman they picked to be The Bachelorette. That turned out to be a huge dud of a season. And if they lost me, someone who has watched every single season of The Bachelor since 2008, like, I can only imagine that they're having trouble holding on to viewership. So maybe it's time to just call this thing. Sarah: [48:43] Hello, Grandpa. Welcome back. We're so glad that you're here. If you bump up your pledge, you can hear the entire show. And we really talked a lot about the nothing that is with Love, Megan. We also talked about who would replace Noel Fielding on Bake Off. So, you know, kick up those pledges. We would love to have you for the whole show. But we are glad that you are here now because today we are talking about important TV princesses. Besides the one we talked about in the main show who is not that important. We are going to advocate for three princesses each from television. There were some guidelines, not too many. Actors who became princesses and retired from acting are okay. Characters who are daughters of kings and queens and not called princess on the show are okay, which was the basically Game of Thrones exemption. Tara: [49:42] Right. Sarah: [49:42] We're just going to go around the horn. I have a bunch of like rando princesses because I assume people are going to pick mine. So why don't we start with our guest, Stephanie Early Green. Stephanie, who's your first television princess? Stephanie: [49:55] My first pick is Sailor Moon. I was an anime girly in middle school in the mid-1990s. Loved me some Sailor Moon. The show came out in the U.S. in 1995 when I was 12 or 13, so perfectly timed to target nerdy seventh grade me. Princess Serena, of course, is the OG Sailor Princess, although technically all of the sailors from the show are princesses of their own home planets, but we don't need to get into the nitty gritty. Like the plot, I have a Sailor Moon book from the 90s that my five-year-old has recently taken an interest in, and I, in reading it to her, realize that I don't remember anything about the show or how the plot worked, but it's basically My Little Pony with people. I still love Sailor Moon. I think she's awesome and iconic. Tara: [50:39] All right. Sarah: [50:40] Excellent. Tara? Tara: [50:41] I'm going to take this one first because I feel like she's probably on other people's lists. It is Princess the Nurse, played by Kristen Villanueva from The Pit. She's the one who, she has a braid. She's always talking shit with Perla about people in the ER in another language that they don't understand. She was, I believe, at one point betting that one of the new med students would cry before the end of the day. Anyway, she's very competent, like all the nurses are, but she's also very salty, and I enjoy her. Dave? Dave: [51:13] My first princess is a, I'm going to put it up there, it's a catalyst princess for putting into motion one of the greatest events in TV history. It is Princess Susanna, Duchess of Beaumont in Black Mirror's national anthem. Without her, there would be no pig fucking. Tara: [51:34] Yeah. Dave: [51:35] Sarah? Stephanie: [51:35] You took my date. Sarah: [51:38] I had that on my list and had to make it a backup. All right. I am going to do Princess Catherine Oxenberg, who was on The Vow for bad reasons, was on Dynasty as Amanda Bedford Carrington for Dynasty reasons. And of course, let us not forget her contributions to the culture in Sharktopus versus Whale Wolf. Tara: [52:01] And the Jack Wagner TV movie Swimsuit. Hello. Sarah: [52:04] Oh, yes, of course, that. She's like a princess who was always a princess, so she just remained active. And she still looks great and like Sharktopus versus Weowulf. I'm just so glad that we get this material handed to us on a platter. Back to you, Stephanie. Stephanie: [52:24] Okay, well, Dave took my second one. But my third one was Daenerys Targaryen from Game of Thrones. I actually bailed after the first couple of seasons of the show because I'm one of those freaks who got mad when the show diverged from the books. Yes, I read all the books. But Emilia Clarke's portrayal of Daenerys was amazing. Now when I picture the book character, I picture that actor. So I think we need to give her some props. Tara: [52:47] My next princess is, I'm specifying, young Princess Margaret as played by Vanessa Kirby from The Crown. I still, in my reactions folder, have one of her first appearances where she's at a wedding with one of her friends and there's a toast and they both just limply raise their champagne glasses looking really bored. She was super fun, gorgeous, best costumes, the sassiest of all of the characters on that show. I really loved her and I still love Vanessa Kirby to this day, largely because of that performance. Dave? Dave? Dave: [53:19] My second pick is Linda Carter, 70s Wonder Woman. She's like the princess of, I don't know, thermometer or something. I forget what it is. Sarah: [53:28] Amazonia, I think. Dave: [53:30] There's a name for it. It sounds like thermometer. Tara: [53:33] Themyscira? Dave: [53:33] Sure. Tara: [53:34] I think that's right. Dave: [53:35] Let's go with thermometer. It's funnier. She spins and then her costume appears. I don't know how that works, but everybody was into it. She's got the lasso. It makes you say things. She's got the invisible jet. I think they used that on the TV show to stupid effect. Most importantly, they have Ira, the supercomputer, which she was fooled by asking it, what is the secret information you can't give me? And then it gave it to her. So important TV princess, Diana Prince. Sarah: [54:04] Oh yeah, that is important. So Princess Margaret was also on my list, but I'm taking the Helena Bonham Carter version because her just sort of soaked in gin melancholy was really perfect. And also great costumes, in my opinion. You know I love that era. Any Princess Margaret from that show was pretty brilliant. Hello, you. Taking the Camelot, Kennedy era version. And Stephanie, if you would like me to tag you in with Grace Kelly, who did a ton of TV Playhouse stuff in the 50s. Stephanie: [54:39] I was actually going to go with a – I'm inspired by the crown picks. I like Princess Anne, the version played by Aaron Doherty. I just think she has a really interesting face, and she looks kind of like Princess Anne. Or maybe she doesn't look like her, but she sort of inhabited her, her mannerisms and stuff. And I liked how snarky and bratty she was, and I just really enjoyed that portrayal. Tara: [55:05] Yeah, if you like her, she's currently on A Thousand Blows on Hulu. What? Dave: [55:12] What show? Tara: [55:13] A Thousand Blows? Dave: [55:14] Yeah. Sarah: [55:16] AKB. Dave: [55:17] Thank you. Tara: [55:17] Oh, thank you. Thank you, Sarah. I knew it had a nickname. I forgot what it was. It's a Victorian like boxing show. And she's the head of a ring of female pickpockets, which is rad. Stephanie: [55:29] That's cool. Tara: [55:30] My final princess is Umbriel. She's voiced by Parker Posey in Futurama. She is a mermaid princess from the lost city of Atlanta, which grew out underwater now, but it's a former Delta hub. And she falls in love with Fry. But when it comes down to it, they get married and then they're about to have sex. And he's confused about how that's going to work since she's a mermaid. And her quote is, I'm not your first, am I? I mean, I lay my eggs, then I leave and you release your fertilizer. there. Fry races away from this marriage and later bemoans, why couldn't she be the other kind of mermaid with the fish part on top and the lady part on the bottom? And that's Umbriel. Very funny episode. Dave. Dave: [56:12] I got two more. They are both Nonak princesses. I think they're both important as cautionary tales. Tara: [56:18] Sure. Dave: [56:19] I'll go with our not quite the worst princess on television, but certainly up there. It's princess leia as seen in obi-wan kenobi yes as a nine-year-old or something like that i've never wanted a cherished character to die more than when i was watching that terrible show like there were star wars shows but that was the biggest gulf between expected quality and delivery and boy whoever decided that she'd need to be besides the fact it makes no logical sense but she need to be following Obi-Wan Kenobi around, including hiding under his cloak, almost like Vincent Adultman, BoJack Horseman. Tara: [56:56] Yeah. Dave: [56:57] It just makes me, I gotta stop talking about it. It's making me mad all over again. But I hated that. I hated that. Everything about Princess Leia in that show was garbage. Garbagio. And then I'll do my absolute worst no-knack princess of all TV time. Princess Tiny Feet from the Venture Brothers is a companion of Sergeant Hatred. And her shtick is that she is a Native American and she has tiny feet and that's a fetish object for Sergeant Hatred. That was it. And it was all cringy and terrible. Even back when it was originally on. We can't even excuse it for being a show from 1962. Tara: [57:34] Nope. Dave: [57:35] Nope. It was relatively recently. So that is my last pick. Sarah: [57:39] My last one is probably unknown to all, but this was an interesting bit of early 90s trivia. There was a TV show called Princesses, which starred Fran Drescher, Julie Haggerty, and Twiggy as the titular princess who got, I don't know, busted down to Marquess and had to be roommates in New York City with the Fran Drescher and Julie Haggerty characters. It wasn't a good show and either it was because Julie Haggerty wasn't happy or the other way around but the network and Haggerty looked at each other like midstream and were like you should just go so she just went I think they tried to retool it and then canceled the show but the upshot was that Drescher and Twiggy stayed friends and when Fran Drescher was visiting Twiggy in London. They happened to run into an exec, and Twiggy's like, but you should pitch this, and you'd be the nanny, and it's a British family. And then that was the birth of the nanny was the Twiggy connection. I don't need to see princesses. It sounds very dumb, and it's a living, but even dumber and louder. And so I'm fine not confirming that impression, but I just thought that was interesting that Twiggy IRL sort of created the nanny or spoken into existence after princesses did not work out. And that's it. Dave: [59:03] And that is also it for this episode of Extra, Extra Hot Great. We all gather that California's most expensive Airbnb to discuss Megan with love before answering your burning-ass EA's she questions like who's replacing Noel on Great British Bake Off and who's on your trivia team? Tarrant's round ball rock tiny sketch cannon was a slam dunk. We celebrated those who weren't quite the best and worst of the week, and we wrapped it all up with a look at some important TV princesses. Next up on EHG Prime is the one-off character bracket. Remember! We're listening. I am David T. Cole, and on behalf of Tara Ariano. Tara: [59:48] Look how many candles we're making! Dave: [59:51] Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah: [59:52] I can beat your face, but I can't cut a tomato. Dave: [59:56] And Stephanie Early Green. Stephanie: [59:58] I love birdsong. Dave: [1:00:00] So thanks for listening, and we'll see you next time right here on Extra Extra Hot Great. All right, now that's how you do it. Tara: [1:00:14] In such good voice today, buddy. Thank you, brother. Wow. It's like the amazing race of candles. Dave: [1:00:24] This episode of Extra Extra Hot Great was brought to you by Pyra's 15 Seconds of Fame. I've taken your little wisecracks for a few years now, you hideous gargoyle, and if. Tara: [1:00:54] That was just plain rude. Sarah: [1:01:02] This is.