Adding Carrie To Our Bucket Lists

Clips 00:02 How long? Penitence sets its own clock. Get started and God will let you know when you've done enough. Dave 00:16 This is the Extra Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 433 for the October 10th, 2026 weekend. I am Free Tampon, David T. Cole, and I'm here with Weird Bible, Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 00:34 I dog ear with the sex scenes. Dave 00:36 And gluttonous customer Tara Ariano. Tara 00:38 I just asked for a Diet Coke refill. Welcome to Extra Extra Hot Great for another weekend. Thank you so much for your support. We're so happy you're here. to listen to us talk about Carey twenty twenty six edition, in which Ralph White Tom O'Penicket is so uninterested in his fellow construction workers that when he gets killed on a job site, no one knows if he even has any next of kin, to claim his body. In fact he has two his wife Margaret, Samantha Sloyan, and daughter Carrie, Summer H. Howell, who are cowering in the prayer closet when cops enter the house. Police and a social worker become almost the first people Carrie has ever interacted with who didn't live in the home with her until a judge orders Carrie to be enrolled in the local high school, and that's where the problems start. The show, which was based on Stephen King's debut novel Carrie, was adapted by Mike Flanagan, who formerly bought us The Haunting of Hill House, Midnight Mass, and the feature film Doctor Sleep, a sequel to The Shining All eight episodes dropped on Prime Video October 8th. We may talk about events from any of them or about the book which you've had a chance to read. It's literally as old as I am, and I am old as hell. Let's do the chen check-in. Sarah, should our listeners watch Carrie? Sarah 02:04 Yes, but Tara 02:06 Dave. Dave 02:06 Yes. Tara 02:07 Yes, for me as well. Let's start with the butt, Sarah. Dave 02:10 Let's talk about your big butt. Sarah 02:14 Yes, small but well kept backyard. My butt is that the sort of inciting incident of Carrie 's first period. and the hurling of the sanitary products has always read as n not based in lived experience, man 's version of how this might happen. I've always struggled with that and I didn't think it was particularly convincing this time either. Like I just Like many years as a girl and woman and twelve years of girl school, I just don't think it would go down like this, no matter how mean these people are. But everything else about this update is pretty great, pretty smart. The acting is excellent. I'm gonna keep going with it. I just that part has always bugged me. That's just like a man writing what he thinks would happen that is not exactly right. Dave 03:09 When that scene was on, I asked Tara if that's what happened to her and she said yes. Sarah 03:14 Mm, okay. Well, it's different in Canada. Dave 03:17 That's true. It was actually healthcare. It was a healthcare initiative. It just whip sanitary uh products at you until Sarah 03:24 Yeah. Yeah. Dave 03:25 you gather them up, yum. Sarah 03:26 You can have as much sanitary product as you need. You just have to have it pelted at you and whatever you can catch, good Dave 03:33 Yeah, in Canada they call them Douglas Sarah 03:33 for you. Dave 03:35 tubes. That 's a really funny joke if you're Canadian. Tara 03:41 Dave, you're not usually as uh interested in the scaredy stuff, but this one got you. Dave 03:44 No. It did. Granted, we didn't have enough time to get all the way through the series, but what I've seen of both How they're setting up the characters in the world of Carrie and the glimpses we see of the event at prom, which I know about from Cultural Osmosis. We can talk briefly about what everybody's experience is. Mine is zero carry. Tara 04:06 Mm-hmm. Dave 04:07 Book, movie, anything beyond there's a bucket of blood, she gets spilled with I had I didn't know she had powers or anything like that. Tara 04:14 Mm-hmm. Dave 04:14 So that was but but Tara, you read the book million years ago, right? Tara 04:17 I did read the book a million years ago and I've seen the movie. Dave 04:20 And the scene Sarah. Sarah 04:21 Yep, same. Dave 04:22 Okay, so I'm the reasonable person Tara 04:24 Mm-hmm. Dave 04:24 to borrow a fame tracker term. I'm the guy doesn't know anything coming into his mind. Tara 04:28 Right. Dave 04:29 So those two elements in the first couple episodes, present-day Carrie going to school, navigating the social structures and the mean girls of it all, and then these flash forwards. By the way, super effective, creepy opening of sort of 9-1-1 calls. Sarah 04:45 Yep. Dave 04:45 It was sort of like the good version of the opening of 9-1-1, the TV show. Tara 04:48 Yeah. Sarah 04:49 Mm-hmm Tara 04:49 Yes. Dave 04:50 You know, it was like almost the same Tara 04:50 Mm-hmm. Dave 04:51 calls in there. Tara 04:52 Yep. Dave 04:52 And then mix in with interviews of people, characters that we would come to know later in the episode. That was that was good. There is one particular one second cutaway where they show everybody in their prom just flopping down like en masse. Tara 05:07 Mm-hmm. Dave 05:07 That was really creepy. Tara 05:09 Yep. Dave 05:09 So I put this in the same category as the fall of the house of Usher. Wasn't that him Tara 05:13 That was him too, yeah. Dave 05:14 too? Sarah 05:14 Mm-hmm, same guy. Tara 05:15 Mm-hmm. Dave 05:15 Which I enjoyed, which I didn't think was necessarily horrific in like a horror film kind of way, but it was more towards spooky thriller, if I can make up a genre. Tara 05:24 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Dave 05:26 And I think um Mike Flanagan, he's one to watch. I think he's going places. He's really good at his craft. I think we should keep an eye on him. Tara 05:34 Mm-hmm. Dave 05:35 Oh, by the way, just before we get off the father, whitest construction crew in America. Tara 05:40 Well, they're in Vancouver, that's why. Sarah 05:43 Mm-hmm. Tara 05:44 Yeah. That was the dumb thing about w Sarah 05:45 Yeah. Tara 05:46 at the beginning when they're like, Chamberlain, USA, like just say they're in Oregon. Like it's obviously the Pacific Northw Northwest. Dave 05:52 Yeah Sarah 05:52 Mm-hmm, yeah. Tara 05:52 Why are you being cute about this? Dave 05:54 I mean I assume the original was set in Maine. Tara 05:56 I think so, if I recall correctly. Dave 05:57 Yeah. Tara 05:59 It's been a while I I feel like he did he d Mike Flanagan did have a new idea for this, considering how old the IP is. As old as me Sarah 06:08 Mm-hmm. Tara 06:09 and that it already has been adapted as a very successful movie. Like there are ways in which the this is kind of more pr fucked up than the original, like setting it in the in contemporary times, and a lot of that comes through in the first episode, not just for the plug-it-up scene, which this time gets captured on camera phone footage Dave 06:28 The nice thing about the camera angle, because you know, whenever you're dealing with teens in the you know, in the two thousands you have to obviously incorporate cell phones. But Carrie being homeschooled in sort of a cult of three household, she doesn't have a phone. Tara 06:39 Yeah Dave 06:42 So you still get that sort of like, oh Carrie's still living in the decade in which Stephen King wrote this book. You get that so you don't have to like Sarah 06:49 Yeah, yeah. Dave 06:51 tell your story through text chains and stuff like that. You actually get because, you know She's basically the point of view for the show, you don't get all that, but it's still an element, which I thought was nice because as much as cell phones and everything are a part of our daily existence, watching people talk through cell phones in T V and movies is kind of a drag. Tara 07:11 Yeah, I know that was your that was your issue with forever. it's nice for us that she doesn't have a phone seems like not so great for her. Or or that she's being on other people's phones and not uh doesn't understand what that means really. Dave 07:25 First, she's got to convince her mom to let her wear slightly different clothes, and then we can work up to maybe getting a gum phone and then maybe an iPhone in a couple years. Tara 07:29 Yeah. Sarah 07:33 Mm-hmm. Tara 07:34 Right. Dave 07:34 After mom works at her the Mal Wart Tara 07:37 Mm-hmm. Dave 07:37 store for a bit. Tara 07:38 Yeah. Dave 07:38 Yeah. Tara 07:39 But that plus the active shooter drill in the first episode, it's like, yeah, this would be a terrifying situation for someone Dave 07:47 Yeah. Tara 07:48 who had lived like her. Dave 07:50 And they sold that scene too. Tara 07:51 I agree Dave 07:51 The active Tara 07:52 absolutely. Dave 07:53 Like Tara 07:53 Woof. Dave 07:53 Carrie's absolute terror of what was going on, not understanding that it was pretend. Tara 07:57 Mm-hmm. Dave 07:58 By the way, I mean, I assume nothing like that is actually how they do the drills in school. Tara 08:03 I doubt they have an actor that comes in with a prop Dave 08:06 Gear, tactical gear. Tara 08:07 gun, but I don't know. Dave 08:08 Ma I doubt it, but Sarah 08:09 Yeah, I don't either. Dave 08:10 Yeah. Tara 08:11 Yeah Dave 08:11 What if that was your job It's like on the weekends you're doing clown work and in the weekdays you're active drill Tara 08:16 Yeah. Dave 08:17 guying typical gear barging into classrooms. Tara 08:20 Oh Sarah 08:20 They said it was the cops. Dave 08:22 Yo, okay. Oh fuck, it's Bozo! Everybody down. Tara 08:27 There's also no f there's also no father in the picture in the original story, but I think that's another compelling addition here in terms of like changing the family to what Dave already said, we quoting a character in the show, A cult of three, makes Carrie 's isolation and both of the parents' control over her, I think more legible in terms of like a patriarchal domination of the house, but it does sort of change the character of it, even though Margaret does take center stage, obviously after Ralph dies. Sarah, what did you think of this change? Sarah 08:56 I thought it was meet with the other updates in terms of like what would be the rationale for isolating her to this extent. Tara 09:04 What's that? Sarah 09:05 How in the twenty first century do you tell that story? Tara 09:08 Mm Sarah 09:09 And I thought that the other updates in that regard were Tara 09:10 -hmm. Sarah 09:12 judicious, like using a true crime documentary as a frame but not going too hard at it like it it used the sort of like familiar markers of that genre but also combining it with the horror genre. So I thought that update was good and they definitely, I think, thought it through. Like sometimes with these things And these updates, like you can tell they sort of were like, well, this seems to be the only way to update or revise whatever IP, but then they didn't step through it all the way before they started scripting. And here it's evident that that Flanagan did that and the team did that. And thought about that stuff, including making some of the mean girls a little more dimensional Dave 10:02 One thing about the family dynamic that I was thought that was I mean not clever, but just breath of fresh air was that yes, they are insulated, but they didn't seem like like the family from home from the X Files, which I think you would get Tara 10:15 Well, sure, mm-hmm. Sarah 10:16 Yeah. Dave 10:17 more often like something t more towards that m something like less believable as people that are isolated, self isolated from society, but still have to operate and, you know, get food and stuff like that within society. I I thought it wasn't as much of a caricature as I was expecting, and I thought that was good. Tara 10:36 Mm-hmm. Sarah 10:38 Yeah Tara 10:38 Obviously Margaret is at the center of Carrie 's life, playing her mother. It n and I think any version of the story has to make it clear she's Carrie's first bully, and this does, definitely. Sarah 10:49 Mm-hmm Tara 10:50 But I think it was a smart choice. to complicate their relationship by making Margaret like loving sometimes. There are instances where you feel like she is operating, she's mistaken, but she's operating from a a place of I want to keep her safe. I don't want her exposed to bad elements, etc. And that it comes through in different ways, like when she um Carrie remakes her clothes, she can tell the dress she wore for her first day isn't right. So she makes herself like a pair of pants and a shirt out of her old sheets and stuff. And Margaret is like, Sure, go for it. I mean, I'm sad you cut up your old sheets. But you know, maybe you can make me a blouse too, and I'll feel like I'm wrapped in my daughter's love. And I was like, oh obviously Sarah 11:29 Mm-hmm. Tara 11:31 now things get worse. Dave 11:32 But I mean that's creepy, but that's what I'm talking about, right? Tara 11:34 Mm-hmm. Dave 11:35 Because the other version of it is the mother that only communicates through Bible verse or something like that, right? Tara 11:39 Yeah, which is more what Piper Lori Dave 11:40 Yeah. Sarah 11:41 Uh-huh. Tara 11:42 is doing in the movie, I would say. And I also appreciated that even the characters who are kinder to Carrie, like Sue and Miss Desjardins, the latter played by the great Amber Midthunder. They admit her particular kind of innocence can make Carrie a little bit annoying. And this sort of this reminded me of when we talked about Anne with an E, because same thing. Like you you wanna believe that this character with boundless imagination and so forth, who's had a tough beginning in life can just drop into society and have a great time. It's like, well, yes and no. I mean, I Sarah 12:16 Mm-hmm. Tara 12:16 I thought to the point of y where we were talking about the active shooter drill when Carrie like tackles Sue. And Sue is like, okay, enough, like ra is, you know, feels obviously claustrophobic from that. It's like, that is how you would feel, even if you were trying to be nice to this weird new girl. Dave 12:31 Yeah. Tara 12:31 Anyway. Sarah 12:32 Yeah Dave 12:33 Carrie in these moments kind of feels like you could have you could drop that character into Little House in the Prairie Tara 12:38 Mm-hmm. Dave 12:38 Mark II and she'd be like, great. Tara 12:40 Yeah. Sarah 12:41 Yeah. It's also really effectively shot that shower scene where they're all Sort of like she's like lurching towards them with her own blood on her hands and the POV camera switches to over her shoulder and they're all like, there's only so far that we're willing to go. for you, m this waif, that unworldly wave that we just met. Tara 13:03 Mm-hmm. Sarah 13:04 I mean, that's a really important part of the story as it continues in in any medium. Is that there's only so far that these people would come to meet her Tara 13:17 Yep. Sarah 13:17 sort of like at the edge of society. The way it was shot really made you think, like, in that situation, what would I have done? What should someone else have done? is this a bystander effect thing. And that's what you want is to sort of be turning it over as it's happening, even though you already know what's gonna happen, because this is a cultural artifact that's half a century old. Tara 13:43 Yeah. Sarah 13:43 So Tara 13:44 I agree with you that they added dimensionality to the mean girls especially Chris, the meanest of girls, definitely suggested without saying that there's more than friendship on Chris's mind in terms of how much she regards Sue and that that's why she's so jealous of all the attention that Sue or any attention that Sue pays to Carrie. Also our friend Michael Trucco deserves a mention here. Sarah 14:08 Oh my God. Dave 14:09 Oh. Tara 14:09 Not our friend, but playing her dad. Dave 14:11 Who oh, is that who Sarah 14:12 Yeah. Dave 14:12 I he was familiar but I couldn't place him. I was like, it's Dax Shepherd, did something happen to his face? I'm like Tara 14:17 No, he's one Dave 14:17 gotta have that truco Tara 14:18 he's from Sarah 14:19 Yeah. Tara 14:19 he's from Battlestar Galactica and so is the guy that plays her dad. Dave 14:22 Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Tara 14:24 Her father is too Dave 14:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tara 14:25 Yep. Dave 14:25 Okay. Hey, I got a question Tara 14:27 Mm-hmm. Dave 14:27 uh about her powers. Tara 14:29 Sure. Dave 14:29 Obviously, I know she can make people fall down and she has some sort of uh pyro something or other going on with fire, or unless it things just catch on fire. Tara 14:38 I think she m moves things with her telekinesis. Yeah. Dave 14:42 There is a scene early on, the neighbor is watching the neighbor who like has seen her w now and then and gives her books through her uh birdhouse. There is a moment where Carrie as a smaller child gets really angry and then only their house gets pelted with like rocks. Tara 14:59 Yeah. Dave 14:59 Like where do those rocks come from? Okay, so we're just assuming she like there were a natural thing that she moved it. I was just wondering if she could like make things, but that's not the case. Tara 15:08 I don't think so. Dave 15:08 It's Tara 15:09 And then it that story is in the book, but it's something like she remembers as a teenager. She remembers it having happened to her and this Dave 15:16 Yeah. Tara 15:16 like, oh, that's weird. I wonder if they're related, you know. Dave 15:20 Right, right, right, right. Sarah 15:21 Mm-hmm. Tara 15:21 Sarah, this is a high school question for you. Homeroom and study hall as two different fake classes? Seems like overkill. Like just send me home. Sarah 15:31 Yeah, especially if you're a senior, you would just sign out for the day, I think. Tara 15:35 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sarah 15:37 Especially if you had Study Hall at the end, which you wouldn't for that reason. Tara 15:40 Right, yeah. Dave 15:41 When I was in high school, homeroom was just like fifteen minutes and then you're off to class. Was that not the case? Sarah 15:47 I like we had a homeroom in middle school and then we had lounges in the upper school, so you just were there and then, you know, first bell. Dave 15:56 Right. Tara 15:56 Yeah. Sarah 15:56 So Tara 15:56 I don't remember if we had that actually. Dave 15:56 Okay. Tara 15:58 We definitely didn't have study hall. Back to Chris for just a second. I'll leave it to others to comment on Carrie's Wars Torment or being excited about early admission to Duke. Felt like a point of choice. Sarah 16:10 Well, yeah, careful what you wish for, Beesh. Tara 16:13 Yeah. I mean Sue g Sue is going there too, but you know Whatever business is happening with the girl that we see in the first episode, Caitlin, she's played by Delaney Hills from Interview with the Vampire, and she, you know, has a sort of a vision. She looks at her hands right after Carrie's plug-it-up incident, and they're Caitlin's hands are covered in blood. She runs in and tells someone else, I just I don't know if it was the same girl bef from before, but I got a really strong whatever. And then there's a mention at the end of the first episode too from Sue that like other people were at the dance and causing mayhem. It wasn't just Carrie. Sarah 16:45 Mm-hmm. Tara 16:47 All of that is not in the book. Um I felt like this could I mean I'll reserve judgment because we haven't finished it like Dave said, but Uh this feels like the one thing they could have taken off before leaving the house Dave 16:57 Yeah Tara 16:58 to me. Like I think the story is strong enough on its own and kind of the point of it is that Carrie Sarah 16:58 Mm-hmm. Tara 17:03 is on her own. I don't know. Dave 17:05 Yeah. What is the possibility that this is the group and all the group has the shining? Tara 17:11 Yeah, mm-hmm, mm-hmm Dave 17:12 Because it feels like a shinning sort of thing, right? Like they're feeling other power. Sarah 17:15 Yeah. Dave 17:16 Yeah. Sarah 17:16 Or like there's the whatever Sisterhood of the Traveling Panty Liners and they can all sense each other, which is like Tara 17:24 Mm-hmm. Sarah 17:24 Not necessary, but it depends. I only watched the first one so far, but it sort of depends on how much of this banana 's the smoothie, I guess. I hope not a lot. Dave 17:35 What if that group was like Green Lanterns, except it's just girls who had their first period? Tara 17:41 It's a pretty big group. Dave 17:42 Oh, I just mean like th they're only the Green Lantern equivalent for like a two months after. Tara 17:48 Mm. Dave 17:48 Or Tara 17:49 Mm-hmm. Dave 17:49 till the next. Tara 17:49 Yeah. Dave 17:50 Let's say Tara 17:50 Or just for like five to seven days a month. Dave 17:50 twenty-eight days. Yeah. Ish. Sure sure sure. Tara 17:53 Mm-hmm. Dave 17:54 Mm-hmm. Sarah 17:54 So it's yeah, it's like the College of Cardinals. Got it. Tara 17:59 I think that's fine. Dave 18:00 Okay. All right, everybody, strap in. It's time for the ask and answer segment. Ask E-A -G. Alright, got a piece of business from last week. I don't know how anybody has survived this last week, but here we go. Clips 18:35 Enough! I'm so sick and tired of hearing you people talk about food, food, food! Dave 18:39 We didn't close the portal, so f Tara 18:41 Oh God. Dave 18:42 f Tara 18:43 I woke up with a st Sarah 18:43 Shit. Dave 18:43 I don't know how many Tara 18:45 with a start. Dave 18:45 people we lost. Tara 18:47 Yeah. Dave 18:47 Yeah. Tara 18:48 Screamed it in the night. Dave 18:50 We realized this as soon as we ended recording last week. I'm like, if people wouldn't get mad, I would put out a mini episode of just that clip, four and a half seconds, just to close the portal. Tara 19:01 Anyone who is gonna get it is already, you know, in the club, so I don't think they would mind. Sarah 19:01 You should have done it. Dave 19:04 I know. Tara 19:06 I think they Dave 19:06 Nah. Tara 19:06 think it was funny. Dave 19:07 Yeah. Tara 19:07 Well, we'll never know. Sarah 19:08 Mm-hmm. Dave 19:08 All right, let's deal with last week's Ask as EHG.let's Spin the wheel of judgment. It's me, all right. Last week's question came from Flamesplash. They asked, what otherwise okay or hard-to-watch shows are worth it for the standout episodes? Sister Knight had a good answer, but I'm gonna have to push it to you guys because I never watched the show. So for final judgment, I'm giving her the sticker pack right now, but you have the power to take it away. Tara 19:39 Okay. Dave 19:41 Here we go Sister Knight put up Unbelievable as her show here. Someday I'll do a Canvas Mish for Episode 2, which pulls the magic trick of retroactively making the excruciating experience of watching episode one just not worthwhile, but essential. So I'm asking you guys if you concur with this assessment. Tara 19:59 Yes. Dave 20:00 Hard to watch, exceptional episode of a hard to watch show. Tara 20:03 Mm-hmm Dave 20:04 Yeah. Alright, great. Alright. So you still get to keep your sticker set, Sister Knight. Thank you everybody for your answers there. Let's move on to your questions. D POV16. There's a new show on Hulu called S-O-U -L -M, the number eight T E. Can each of you please give your own pronunciation of the show title Tara Stardust Off? Tara 20:25 I mean I'm sorry not to be fun, but Soulmate, you know what they're doing. You can be irritated by it, but you can still discern what the idea is, so Dave 20:33 N U M B three R S, how do you say that? Sarah 20:38 Numb Tara 20:38 Well, numbers Sarah 20:38 three years. Dave 20:40 And not numbers? We know what it is. Tara 20:42 Yeah, but that's different. Dave 20:43 Better get your story straight. Tara 20:44 That one's dumber. Anyway, I said soulmate, Sarah. Dave 20:46 Okay. Sarah 20:48 Soulmate Te Dave Dave 20:50 Yeah, I had Solem eighty. Yeah. Is this like a Megan thing? Tara 20:59 I don't know. Dave 20:59 It's like okay. Sounds like it. Tara 21:01 Probably Dave 21:02 Yeah. Seth, inspired by the Gilded Age, which show should be next to release a holiday album performed by the cast? Sarah. Sarah 21:11 The boys Dave 21:12 Oh, that's really good answer. I went with Widows Bay if we're talking about current shows. Tara 21:17 Mm-hmm. Dave 21:18 I think there's a lot of different characters with a lot of POVs, so they can all sing their sort of different takes on whatever's going Sarah 21:22 I that was on my short list. Dave 21:24 Yeah. Sarah 21:24 Yep. Dave 21:24 If we're talking about any show, just not current shows, then I'm gonna go at Deadwood, sort of the same idea, or under Tara 21:32 Mm-hmm. Dave 21:33 the dome for tar. Tara 21:34 Yeah, huh? Dave 21:35 What's your answer, T Tara 21:36 I went with a Christine Branski crossover, the good fight, because then you get her plus Audrey McDonald plus many others. Sarah 21:40 Mm-hmm. Oh my god, yes. Dave 21:44 CKEN is asking, who are your newer unhateable? So this is a segment we did years ago just about the celebrities that nobody seems to dislike, you know, Keanu Reeves, that sort of person. And they want to know who's new. I don't really have like a new one like somebody who's like 20 or something like that. Tara 22:02 Oh yeah, no, I don't think that is what he meant. Dave 22:03 But I Yeah, just people that you've added recently to the list. Tara 22:07 Mm-hmm Dave 22:07 But I don't think we had Weird Al on our original list. And I was thinking, Weird Al, like Tara 22:11 Ajá Dave 22:11 who the fuck would hate Weird Al? Even if you don't enjoy Sarah 22:13 I think we did. Dave 22:14 p Sarah 22:15 I think we did. Tara 22:15 , Dave 22:16 Did we? Sarah 22:16 I hope we did. Dave 22:16 Okay, alright. Well then good because that seems like a Sarah 22:18 But good choice. Dave 22:19 yeah and if I had to go with like people that are newer to me And I don't know anything else about them except for the movie and the few episodes we've watched so far. But the guys from a Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie Tara 22:32 Mm-hmm. Dave 22:32 seem very likable. Tara 22:33 Yeah. Dave 22:33 But uh, you know, maybe they are cannibals in their spare time. I just don't know. 'Cause I don't read that internet. Tara 22:38 Sure. Well, since I just mentioned her Christine Burgansky, since we just talked about them when we were discussing Sarah's drunk history Dave 22:42 Jolly Asher. Sarah 22:42 Mm-hmm. Tara 22:46 canon pitch a few weeks ago, Kirsten Dunst and Jesse Plemens. Sarah 22:50 Yeah Tara 22:51 Since I just saw both of them in the social reckoning this week, Woonmi Musako and Betty Gilpin, Ayo Adebori Dave 22:58 Yeah , mm-hmm Sarah 23:00 Yep Tara 23:00 , Julio Sarah 23:01 , Tara 23:01 Torres Sarah 23:02 uh Dave 23:02 Mm-hmm. Sarah 23:03 huh. Tara 23:03 And again, another pair, Carrie Kuhn and Tracy Letts, both of them. Sarah 23:08 Uh-huh. Dave 23:09 Worth saying for like when you say Julio Torres, it's not like do you like his stuff? Tara 23:14 Right. Dave 23:14 Because I that's an acquired taste, but is Tara 23:16 Sure Dave 23:18 whether or not as a person is he unhateable. Tara 23:20 Well that Dave 23:20 So Tara 23:21 and like it you know, if anyone was like, I've tried and I don't like any of it, I'd be like, hmm, that's an interesting data point about you. Dave 23:28 Yeah. Tara 23:28 I will remember that Sarah 23:28 Mm-hmm Dave 23:29 Sure sure. Yeah. That's another question. Signifiers that it's not gonna work out friendship wise. Tara 23:32 Yeah, that's true. Dave 23:35 Yeah. Sarah 23:35 Yeah. Dave 23:35 Yeah. Sarah. Tara 23:38 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Dave 23:41 Oh, good one. Sarah 23:42 Still mad about Perry Mason, as you can tell. Tara 23:43 Yep. Mm-hmm. Sarah 23:45 Sarah Lancashire, still mad about Julia, as you can tell Tara 23:49 She was Julia in the Julia TV show on HBO Sarah 23:51 She was also in Happy Bally. Dave 23:51 Oh oh Tara 23:52 Max. Dave 23:52 yeah. Sarah 23:53 Yeah, she's a Brit Dave 23:53 Got it. Sarah 23:55 cop Dave 23:55 Yep. Sarah 23:55 show staple also. Ren Schmidt, sometimes the only thing that keeps me from kicking the TV over during space show. Tara 24:04 Mm-hmm. Dave 24:04 What else has she been in? Tara 24:05 Yeah. Ren Schmidt, she was in the Americans. She was one of their handlers. But I would say, just before you go on, Ren Schmidt and Samantha Sloy and two stars, one slot. They look really alike to me. Sarah 24:16 Ooh, yeah, kind of. Tara 24:18 Anyway, resume. Sarah 24:19 Alison Hammond Dave 24:21 No, yeah, good one. Sarah 24:22 and Hillary Burton Morgan. Dave 24:24 Hmm. You guys had good lists. Now, Radish Cake says, speaking of unhateables, who is a former unhateable that now is worthy of some hate? Tara 24:34 Hate is a strong word, but a lot of shine has come off the rock over the past 20 years or so. Dave 24:35 Sure. I also had him on my list. Sarah 24:39 Yeah. Tara 24:40 Mm-hmm. Dave 24:40 Yep. Tara 24:41 That's the only one I had, Dave. Sarah 24:41 Yeah. Dave 24:42 I put Terry Cruz. We had Terry Cruz in the original list Tara 24:44 Mm-hmm. Dave 24:45 and I don't know, a couple years ago, right in like in the first wave of Amazon's making people pee in their own mouths and while they're packing boxes in the warehouse. He's like, Yeah, Amazon, here we go, making some money. Tara 24:56 Mm-hmm. Dave 24:56 And he was like out there shilling for them 24 -7. Tara 24:59 Yeah. Dave 24:59 So yeah, put him on the uh pain on mine list. Tara 25:01 Although you know who's also on both the potential unhateable list and the endorsing Amazon list is Kathryn Hahn. It's a bummer. Dave 25:09 Oh, yeah. Tara 25:10 She's in TV ads for them. Sarah 25:10 Yeah. Tara 25:11 Anyway, Sarah. Dave 25:12 Hmm. Sarah 25:13 I've been sick of her shit for a while. I'm not a crackpot Tara 25:16 Okay. Dave 25:17 Ahead of the curve, hate wise. Sarah 25:20 Couldn't think of a T V one, but Shohei Otani going to the White House with the Dodgers, Barf In fact, there's a couple other dudes on that team that I quite liked, including the manager, and that was really disappointing that they all just f Filed into that office again. I wouldn't say I hate Shohei, but truly, if anyone on Earth could have gotten away with skiving off of that trip. Tara 25:46 Mm-hmm. Sarah 25:46 And not face consequences. I mean, his teammates also were like fuck he had a couple teammates who were like, nah Mookie Betts, Kike Hernandez are both like, are you fucking kidding? Nah, you know, are beloved in certain quarters for that, so he should have done that also, but he didn't, and that's a little bit sad. Dave 26:06 Yeah. Jovial Gen, what c Jovial Gen asks, what car would you want to give your eulogy? So Sarah, you pass, it's very sad who is giving your eulogy if they are also a car. Sarah 26:21 Mean kit, the night automated roving robot or car. Dave 26:25 Yeah. I thought that might have been your answer. Sarah 26:26 Tara. Dave 26:29 Like it was sorry, just before you start Tar. Is it like a roast sort of situation? Is that what car 's gonna do? Sarah 26:35 Um, yeah, I think Carr is gonna do that. thing that we see at funerals sometimes and as we're about to, I think, enjoy in the tiny canon where it's like, well, um She was very punctual and always wrote thank you notes, like tr Dave 26:50 Yeah. Sarah 26:51 you know, truthful, but also very dry and Dave 26:55 Yeah. Sarah 26:55 not dishonest. Dave 26:56 Yep, and then he rolls coal over everybody that's Sarah 26:59 Mm-hmm. Dave 26:59 there. Tar? Tara 27:01 Bumblebee, Dave Dave 27:03 Alright. I have two answers. First one, probably our current car in our driveway in our driveway right now, so we can get some stuff off his chest, like how it has dents on absolutely every side of his body. And a smash brake light now, thanks to the tree that fell under a car last week. Sarah 27:18 Oh my God, yikes Dave 27:19 This was supposed to be a TV question though, I'm gonna go with turbo teen, that's the teen that can turn into a car, just Sarah 27:24 I considered turbotean. Dave 27:26 just to see everybody in the room freak out when the car this given eulogy turn into a human boy. That'd be good. Uh Raphael has a question for us. What show do you only watch because it is set in a place you live So LA, New York, we've lived there, but you know, 10,000 shows are set there. So I'm gonna go with the St. Catharines Cable 10 Computer Community Board from the 1980s. The one that had a blue stripe at the top and then a right red stripe underneath and then a green data area and it would just be community service announcements, pool closings, you know, that kind of stuff. Tara 27:57 Mm-hmm. Sarah 27:57 Mm-hmm Tara 28:01 God, that takes me back. Dave 28:03 If uh it was a snow day you could find out about it there, but it really just was a Tara 28:07 Mm-hmm Dave 28:08 like Commodore 64 Just running some really basic program and that's all it was for probably twelve years at least. It was it was uh a real nostalgia trip. Tara 28:17 Yeah. Dave 28:20 Sarah. Sarah 28:21 This is NA for me mostly. Nothing is set in my hometown. New York does not count. I do eyeball cemetery scenes of shows that I know are set in New York or shooting at Silver Cup to see if they are using Greenwood Cemetery. For shootouts, they usually use a different cemetery. I know weird things. Tara. Tara 28:41 I would probably watch a Law and Order set in any Canadian city, whether I had lived there or not, but Law and Order, Toronto, Cole, and Criminal Intent. Because I've pieced Sarah 28:50 Mm-hmm. Tara 28:51 out on all of the other Law and Order is, but I still watch that one. Dave 28:55 L Triple B, which judge or judges from a competition show do you find yourself most agreeing with? Tara 29:03 I think the last one I watch is Bake Off, so I'm gonna say Nigella Lawson by default, because it's not gonna be Paul, Sarah. Sarah 29:10 I had roughly the same answer. I currently only watch one and I can't really characterize myself as quote agreeing with a judge who's not experiencing the competition's output the same way we are, which is to say, you know, thousands of miles away and on a couch. I'm gonna throw it back then, to American Idol in the era when Harry Cunig Junior was a judge. Dave 29:32 Hmm. Sarah 29:33 Dave. Dave 29:34 My problem with picking great British backup judges is that you're missing a key component of being able to judge on the same level they can, which is Sarah 29:42 That's what I was saying, yeah. Dave 29:43 You cannot taste the cookie. So I was also pulled towards recency bias and was thinking somebody from there. But what I went with actually was most of the judges on face-off the Sarah 29:54 Oh Dave 29:54 creature effects makeup show. Sarah 29:54 yeah Tara 29:55 Mm-hmm. Dave 29:56 They seemed to know their stuff. Well they did know their stuff. And I never got the sense that the producer's hand was guiding the judges like sometimes I do on other shows. Like I believe everybody was eliminated on their merit, and that's what m made that show pretty good as these sort of shows go. So Yep, face off. L Triple B has another question for us. When you cross your legs at the knee, which leg is on top, Sarah? Sarah 30:23 I alternate every few minutes Dave 30:24 Oh. Sarah 30:25 so as not to aggravate my sciatica because I am young and full of life. Dave 30:29 Yeah. Sarah 30:30 But on the initial cross, it's right over left. Dave. Dave 30:33 Yeah, right over left, and I wish I had your discipline because I I just walk in circles because I got one leg longer than the other. Tar. Tara 30:42 Right over left. Dave 30:42 That joke. Alright, uh Steph KSblue Dot. I think maybe the first time we've heard from Steph. I would like to listen again to the podcast where you explain the origins of the different songs and quotes and little doodads on the soundboard. Would you kindly point me in the right direction for finding that podcast, please and thank you? Tara 31:02 No, just kidding. Dave 31:04 That's right. Fuck off. Tara 31:05 Will you? No, I will not. Dave 31:06 Nope, absolutely not. It's too much work. I'm actually gonna go one better. I'm going to add it to the end of this show. So there'll be two Tara 31:13 Uh Dave 31:13 minis at the end of this episode. Sarah 31:14 Hmm, fun Tara 31:14 that Dave 31:15 So Tara 31:15 service Dave 31:15 but fair warning, it is gonna be quite dated. Monty has our last question. We just watched something called My Strange Shark Obsession. And I like the idea of adding sharks to existing franchises like Naked and Afraid of Sharks. What other TV franchises would be improved with the addition of sharks? Tara 31:35 Dancing with the sharks Sarah 31:37 I had that one. Tara 31:38 Flip or Flop or Shark. The Shark is right. Dave 31:41 Yeah. Tara 31:42 The Great White Shark and Lotus Sarah 31:42 Is there Tara 31:44 And of course, Jersey Shark. Dave. Dave 31:47 Alright, this is not quite a franchise, but it's I it was in my head and I couldn't get it out. I've never watched a single frame of it, but my answer is foundation. The Apple TV sci-fi adaptation of Asimov's never-ending giant nerd-only tome Tara 32:03 Yes. Dave 32:03 series. Tara 32:04 Starring Lee Pace in high weirdo mode. Dave 32:07 Sure. What I want is that anytime anybody dies in foundation, it is at the hands of a shark. Sarah 32:17 Mm-hmm. Dave 32:17 And I just want to see them have to write that into this, what I think is sort of a relatively serious, ponderous sci-fi show. So yeah, Foundation get on it, Shark Kitten, Shark Deaths 24-7. Sir. Sarah 32:31 Dancing with the Sharks, Great British Baking Shark. Law and Order Shark Victims Unit, set in a prosthetics lab. Dave 32:38 Yeah. Sarah 32:38 And if you want to do a throwback, Dawson's Shark, which solves a lot of later season problems by just having characters who have turned into assholes, get it. Dave 32:49 Hmm. Tara 32:49 Mm-hmm. Dave 32:50 Problem with great British baking sharks is that all the cakes have sake bottoms Sarah 32:56 And they gotta keep moving around the tent. Dave 32:58 That's right. They're always eating their own cakes. Sarah 33:00 Cameraman's like, god damn it Dave 33:02 Yeah. Bezor Laura has your ask-ass EHG question. Which TV character reminds you the most of the other EHG hosts? Now, this is the question that could tear this podcast apart. Tara 33:16 Yes. Dave 33:16 So be careful with your answers. Tara 33:18 Mm-hmm. Sarah 33:18 Mm-hmm. Dave 33:19 We will give stickers to correct answers. Tara 33:21 Mm-hmm. Dave 33:21 We will take away stickers from people that are mean to us. Sarah 33:24 Mm-hmm. Dave 33:25 And by that we mean come into your house and steal stickers from your house. Tara 33:28 Yeah, the phrasing of this makes it clear to me that what Laura meant was for us to answer this. Dave 33:33 I know, but I promoted it Tara 33:35 I I'm not I underst I understand why you did it, I'm just saying, tread lightly, everybody. Dave 33:40 Tread lightly, at least for Dave. Sarah 33:42 The only answer for me is Angie Harmon saying, yuck, on law and order. Tara 33:47 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Dave 33:48 Yeah. Sarah 33:48 Other answers don't bother Dave 33:50 Mm. I got some ideas. It is time for the tiny canon I am presenting this week. We talked recently about the third season of Colin from Accounts not being super great. Having watched the whole thing, I stand by that. However, it did have its moments, and what I'm putting up today, I think, is probably the best of the third season. In this scene, Ashley, who is the main character, is at her grandmother's funeral with her estranged father, who is also a cruise ship performer, who I gather was like a later-in-life closet cumer outer And isn't really at the funeral to mourn his mother or to comfort his daughter, but more for the chance to perform on stage. In this particular instance he wants to sing, Is That All There Is for the Very Captive Audience That's not the bit I'm putting up for the tiny funeral canon, but it does neatly set up when Stuart, that's the father, insists on roping Ashley as a living prop in his performance, like you know, spinning her around stage as he sings and whatnot. So, of course, in this famous visual meeting and podcasting, you can't see the ending of this clip, but you're probably going to figure out what happened. Here is a clip of the funeral. Clips 35:06 Yeah, she was she was firm but fair. Mostly firm. It's quick with wooden spoon, but um never left a mark, so hard to prove. Yeah, but you know, um You couldn't say that she wasn't punctual, yeah, and she was um very well put together lady. Always looked nice. So anyway, um I think that my dad Stuart, her son, would like to take it away. I'll take it from here. Don't go anywhere, Ash. You know, my dear old mum, she was famously not well liked. It's true. We have to tie a lamb chopper round her neck just to get the dog to play with her. You know, mum would have hated a room full of sad sacks at her send-off, so let's take it up a notch a bit, shall we? Hit it. I remember when I was a little girl. Our house caught on fire. I'll never forget the look on my father's face as he gathered me up in his arms, raced through the burning building, out onto the pavement. And I stood there, shivering in my pajamas, and watched the whole world go up in flames. And when it was over, I said to myself, Is that all there is to a fire? Is that? All there is Is that all there is? If that's all there is, my friend, then let's keep dancing. Let's break out the boom! Oh God! Oh God ma! Hey! What have you done at? Who the fuck put her in those hideous slacks? Dave 37:00 So of course he twirled his daughter into his mother's coffin sitting up there on the stand Now, you should go watch it. This is season three, episode seven. Watch the scene, but let me try to describe it. So she twirls immediately into her grandmother's coffin. And it falls to the floor and spills out the grandmother like Cleopatra coming out of the rug, you know, just like brrrrrrr blah blah blah blah blah. The dummy they use on set has a nice heft to it, which is usually the mistake for this sort of thing, where they just sort of fill a dummy with straw and throw it, you know, off the roof or something like that, and you can tell it's not a hundred and fifty pounds or whatever. Tara 37:32 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Dave 37:40 Not the case here. There is a lot of speed out of the gate, but then the floppeting is so pronounced that it only gets like a cycle and a half before inertia ends and the grandmother is just like flop in front of the first row. Sarah 37:56 Face down Dave 37:57 Face down, but not before the cut before that is immediately when the face is facing the camera. So you get it all. Tara 38:05 Mm-hmm. Dave 38:05 You get the undignified end with her ass up, but then you also get like a really gray face coming at you during the flip. So, for really going for it, and for literally sticking the landing, I am putting Ashley's grandmother's last entrance up for the tiny funeral cannon. Tara 38:26 Thank you, Dave. Sarah, you have watched l a lot less of this show than we have. Why don't you start? Sarah 38:32 Yeah, and this is, you know, not tempting me to watch more, but this really does work canonically. Tinily, canonically, on a number of levels. Tara 38:41 Mm-hmm. Sarah 38:42 First of all, the family member trying to leverage, you know, somber gathering like this. for like likes and subscribes basically Tara 38:54 Yeah Sarah 38:54 turning it into a little stand-up cabaret moment It's also very relatable in the early going about trying to be respectful but truthful, about a deceased person who was dear to you but uh somewhat trying themselves. And then you roll into the lamb chop story, and even if that's all even if that is all there is to the scene, I was like. with it and then twirl second very unwanted twirl and Dave is right like it does sound like a sack of old shoes hitting the ground Dave 39:34 Yeah. Sarah 39:35 and that's kind of what it is and the way that like the position in which it lands is perfectly credibly horribly dowdy. Like the whole situation is just stunningly well done. And that they lead up with this like, oh yeah, like I I feel like I've been at this funeral Tara 39:58 Mm-hmm. Sarah 39:58 or endured this funeral and then the prestige, I guess. Tara 40:03 Yeah Sarah 40:03 I it's really it's really something. So excellent call, perfectly pitched on two levels from the show and the scene, I would say. Tara 40:14 Mm-hmm. Sarah 40:14 Tari. Tara 40:15 I don't have much to add to that. I mean, you captured it. It's it's an incredibly economical less than two minutes of screen time that does Sarah 40:23 Mm-hmm. Tara 40:24 so much it tells you uh volumes about what this family has been like. Starting with the scene opens on like the you know, the goodbye Nolene photo that they've chosen. And even in that photo she looks So mean like you can tell this was a rotten old bitch and had been for decades. Dave 40:42 I don't know if it was intentional or not, but there's somebody in the gallery that looks a lot like her, and I thought maybe that was supposed to be her sister or something like that, but I don't know if they've ever mentioned Tara 40:49 Yes, mm-hmm, mm-hmm Dave 40:53 her. But then also when he tells the pork chop pork chop joke, there's one person laughing a lot, and I'd like to believe it's her sister, because that's the kind of thing that if the sisters never really got along, then that would be a really great moment for the surviving one. Tara 41:00 Yeah Sarah 41:04 Mm-hmm Tara 41:07 Yes. Dave 41:07 Yep. Tara 41:07 I did notice that woman as well. I thought that was that was uh a smart choice too. Sarah 41:12 There is always that moment also if you're delivering a eulogy like this where people are like, so do we laugh at this? Dave 41:19 Yeah. Sarah 41:19 Like are these joke jokes? Tara 41:19 Right, right. Sarah 41:21 Or so yeah. Tara 41:22 Mm-hmm. The lamb chop joke older than Nolene herself. Like this is Sarah 41:27 Mm-hmm. Tara 41:27 also tells us about Stuart and like, oh, this is what you can expect when you see him perform on a cruise ship like a elderly pattern. Sarah 41:36 Mm-hmm Tara 41:36 Like Yeah, is that all there is? Insane choice for a funeral, perfect choice for Stuart. You just know this this number is in his repertoire. Dave 41:45 Yeah, you know it because he's got the warble. Tara 41:48 Yes. Dave 41:48 He's got the planned warble Sarah 41:49 Mm-hmm. Dave 41:50 for his second uh line of it's that all there is. Tara 41:52 Uh-huh. And he's right about the slacks. They are hideous. Dave 41:56 Okay. Sarah 41:56 Mm-hmm. Tara 41:56 That's not what she should be laid to eternal rest in. Dave 41:58 Right, right. Alright. Let's put this to the vote. Sarah D. Bunting, what do you think about this for the tiny funeral cannon? Tara 42:06 I also vote yes. Dave 42:07 Fantastic. So Grandmother's last Clips 42:12 I Dave 42:12 entrance Clips 42:12 am here, Dave 42:12 from Callin' from Clips 42:13 if it pushes shot, I am Dave 42:13 Accounts. You are hereby inducted into the extra hot, great Clips 42:15 so good to share, and I want it Dave 42:17 tiny funeral cannon. Clips 42:19 to be a good one. Americans love a winner. Yep. And will not tolerate a loser. Nope. Dave 42:25 It's time for our not quite winners and losers of the week. I will go first. Not quite winner is the Fast and the Furious franchise. It's gonna get TV series spinoff at Peacock according to deadline. Now, what I want for this show is that it's gonna be exactly like Agents of Shield. In so far that it's gonna be that kind of show where it's like, oh shit, you just missed Thor. He was just Sarah 42:49 Yeah. Dave 42:49 here. Tara 42:49 Yep. Dave 42:50 He's fly oh no, he's gone. Tara 42:52 Dominic Toretto's in the bathroom. He had some bad clams. Dave 42:56 Even more than that, here's how I want it to play out. Tara 42:56 You're not gonna see him Dave 42:58 It's that for that Dominic he was just here thing, but with cars. So you never see anyone actually drive a car. You just missed Dom and he was driving his car. Tara 43:09 Mm. Sarah 43:11 It's just people hanging up keys or taking them down from a pegboard? Tara 43:11 Yeah. Dave 43:13 Yep. Tara 43:14 Yeah. Dave 43:14 It's basically like being in front of a valet Sarah 43:15 Sure. Dave 43:17 in in LA, just gathering keys, sending them out, never seeing the car Yep. Not quite lose of the week, because this is a little bit old right now, but it's worth saying after our trader 's cannon pitch during the prime show, Richard E. Grant accidentally telling his castmates in his very first episode of Celebrity Traders in the UKthat he was a traitor. Tara 43:40 That's kind of the one thing you shouldn't do, really. Dave 43:43 Yeah. Sarah 43:43 No. Tara 43:44 Ever everything's allowed in a social game. That's one thing you should probably not do Dave 43:49 We should probably give this a name. Perhaps it's Grants Law now, but it is the older and more famous your celebrity is, the longer you have to coach him on whatever he is. interacting with. See also Taskmaster a lot of the times, right? Tara 44:04 Yeah. Dave 44:04 You know, like the celebrities there, you can tell the agent really wanted them on, but they had no clue what was going on. Same deal there. Richard E. Grant needed another 30 minutes of media coaching to be on this show. Tara 44:16 Hello, Mr. Thompson. Dave 44:19 That 's right. When I step on your foot. All right, Sarah, who is your not quite winner of the week? Sarah 44:25 My not quite winner is Adam's Law, which stars Judge Judy's son, Adam Levy, and that is the number one new syndicated strip show. So family business carrying on uh very healthily. Dave 44:38 That's also like Agents of Shield. You just missed my mom. Sarah 44:41 Mm-hmm. Tara 44:42 Mm-hmm. Dave 44:42 She was just here. Sarah 44:42 Yeah. And he w also wears a lacy collar. Dave 44:45 Yep, sure. Sarah 44:46 Because Dave 44:47 Nothing wrong with that. Sarah 44:47 why not? Not quite loser, Sam Bankman-Fried. I mean, always a full loser in every day and every way, but for our purposes. Soon to be the subject of a docuseries on Prime Video. I'm not sure it can top the recent New York magazine piece about his life in prison for levels of scath But I look forward to finding out. Tara. Tara 45:13 My not quite winner of the week. We talked about her last week in the tiny press junket canon pitch. We talked about her earlier as an unhateable. It's Alison Hammond, the great British Bake Off co-host, who is, quote, fine after a heart palpitation scare while she was broadcasting live on this morning. Thank God I c I could not take it. Sh I won't go so far as to say she is Dolly Parton to me, because that would be crazy. I only became aware of this lady like two years ago. But nevertheless, I hope she buries us all. Sarah 45:46 Mm-hmm. Yeah, she is essential. It's true. Tara 45:49 I agree. Not quite loser of the week. This also came up in a recent episode in terms of how much starry casting they've been doing, but it's HBO's mini-series take on the trial of Louise Woodward because one of its most recent cast editions is recently disgraced for bad opinions. retirement threatener David Krumholtz. They never mean it. It's always, no, please beg me to stay. And so, you know, the trial of Louise Woodward did, and I wish they hadn't. Dave 46:20 Well, speaking about retirement threateners, do you know what time it is? Tara 46:24 Listener gained it Dave 46:25 It's listener game time Welcome back to Listener Game Time. This is the second of the month, the month of Amy Allen Spock. Five trivia mighty games to test your knowledge of the straight and narrows and the loop-de-loops of TV history. Our season scores so far are Kim 1. Eleanor and Sarah looking to get on the board. Today we're going to play Faces to Common Places. Amy explains. For this game, you'll be given the name of three characters from three different TV shows. The actors who portray those characters have come together on a fourth show. The goal is to guess that fourth show and the name of the three characters the actors portray on that show. For each of those four elements, you'll get two points apiece. There is a clue for you in the form of the shows that those three characters originally appeared in. But you only get one guess run at this. And if you guess after the clue, we're gonna chop those points in half so you go from a maximum to eight to a maximum of 4. All answers, Amy wants you to know, are from scripted shows, no sketch shows, no soap operas, and for some reason she wanted to point out No Simpsons. So there are some guidelines. Alright, here's an example to send you on your way. Your characters are Nick and Adopulis. Willow Rosenberg, Doogie Hauser. Now your job is to figure out who played those characters and what show all those actors came together on. Any ideas here? Let me give you the hint. Nick was on Freaks and Geeks. Willow is from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Doogie Hauser was from Get This. Doogie Hauser MD.now, who wants to take a crack at this one? Elenore 48:17 The show is How I Met Your Mother. And the characters are respectively Marshall, Lily, and Barney Dave 48:26 Yes, correct. That is all four pieces that we needed for maximum points. That's how you play. Let's get to it. See who's going first. We already know, but let's just play a lot. Clips 48:38 We will start with valued guest. Dave 48:40 All right. Kim, Eleanor, Sarah is our order. Kim, are you ready for your first trio of characters? Kim 48:46 Let's find out Dave 48:48 Derek Taylor, Mora Pfefferman , Nell Porter. These are all characters, three different shows. If you need the hint, I will tell you those three different shows But the actors who portrayed those three characters were all on a show together. Name that show and name the characters they played on that show. Kim 49:08 Okay. I believe the show they all met on is Arrested Development, and the characters are Michael. George Senior George George Bluth and Lindsay. Dave 49:28 That is an eight-point answer. Perfect. Nicely done. Elenore 49:32 Wow, I'm ready Dave 49:33 You ready, Eleanor? Your three characters from three different TV shows are Jay Pritchett, Gemma Teller Moreau, Jen Harding. Elenore 49:45 I none of those could be less familiar to me, so I will take the hint. Dave 49:51 Okay. Jay from Modern Family. Gemma from Sons of Anarchy. Jen from Dead to Me All coalesced on what TV show playing what characters. Modern Family, Sons of Anarchy dead to me. Any part of that sound familiar? Elenore 50:10 Yeah. So Dave 50:12 So here's the twist I told about them offline. Elenore 50:12 for dead to me Dave 50:15 When you answer, as soon as you hear a buzz, at that moment anybody can steal it and they can run the rest. Elenore 50:20 Gotcha. Dave 50:22 So everybody's being very careful with what they answer first Elenore 50:22 Okay Dave 50:25 here. Elenore 50:25 Okay, it's just about which person, which wandrom dead to me do I pick? Dave 50:31 Do you know the show? Elenore 50:33 The show I'm gonna say is uh freaks and geeks. Dave 50:41 Nope. Elenore 50:41 Damn it. Kim 50:41 Steel mill. Dave 50:42 Steel mill from Kim. All right, here we go. Kim 50:44 Okay, it's Married with Children is the show they met on. Elenore 50:47 Mm Kim 50:48 Uh Al Peg and Kelly. Dave 50:53 You are correct. Elenore 50:53 -hmm. Dave 50:54 That was a four-point steal. Nicely done. Kim 50:56 Sorry, Eleanor Dave 50:57 Yeah. Elenore 50:58 I picked the wrong Dave 50:58 That's Elenore 50:59 the wrong dad to me Dave 51:01 Sarah, your three characters from three different shows. Christine Campbell, Emmett Milbarge, Robert Russell. Sarah C 51:11 Let me please hear their characters in the shows. Dave 51:16 Okay, Christine is from New Adventures of Old Christine Emmet is from Chuck. Robert Russell The West Wing. They all came together, acted on the same show. What's that show? What characters did they play? Sarah C 51:30 Uh and the show that they acted on together can predate these shows? Dave 51:34 Timeline does not matter. Yeah. They could be before all this, after all this, same time. Sarah C 51:39 I'm going to say uh now let me just start Kim's waiting, waiting with baited breath. Kim 51:48 Not for this one, I'm not Sarah C 51:49 I was like Sonfeld. Dave 51:52 That's incorrect. Sarah C 51:52 There you go. Dave 51:54 Anybody want to steal this one? No. Alright. The show. Is this eight point steal? No? Okay. The show is VEP. Elenore 52:02 Yeah Dave 52:02 That is Selina, Gary, and Kent. So that's Julie Louis Dreyfus, Tony Hale, Gary Cole Sarah C 52:08 Yes. Dave 52:10 Kim, you've got Raymond Reddington, James T. Kirk, and Murphy Brown Three characters, the actors came together on another show. Kim 52:20 Oh okay. So I know We're talking about James Spader, William Shatner, and Candace Bergen. So they all met on the show that came after the practice. I believe it was called Boston Legal. Hey. Dave 52:43 Three character names. Kim 52:44 I don't have any idea what their names are. Tara 52:46 That's what I was waiting for. Dave 52:48 Nobody's steel mealing that one. We're looking for Alan Shore, that's James Spader. Denny Crane, that's the chat. Tara 52:54 Right. Dave 52:55 And Shirley Schmidt is Candace Bergen. Yes, you have all those actors, correct. To Eleanor, you've got Eve Palastri, Harold Brighton Tripp Fontaine III, Jenna Weber Elenore 53:08 Oh God. Dave 53:10 Three characters, three different shows, those actors Elenore 53:12 Can you hit me with that second one again? Dave 53:14 Harold Brighton Tripp, that's in quotes, Fontaine Elenore 53:17 Okay. Dave 53:18 the Third. Elenore 53:19 Alright. I'm gonna say that they I'm gonna take the low-hanging fruit here and say they met on Grey's Anatomy. Dave 53:26 Two points. Elenore 53:27 Eve Palastri, that's Christina Dave 53:33 That's fine. That's good. Elenore 53:34 okay. Dave 53:34 First names are good. Elenore 53:35 Uh Dave 53:36 Yang. Elenore 53:36 oh, Trip Fontaine. Uh Dave 53:41 Got four points so far. Elenore 53:44 Is Tripfontaine pass no a doctor? Dave 53:49 Yeah. Elenore 53:49 Oh my god. Dave 53:50 Probably, I don't know. I mean, good good really good chance. Elenore 53:53 Uh Dave 53:54 Hospital dweller. All right, gonna call you on time on that one. Elenore 53:58 All right, yeah. Dave 53:59 We're looking for George O'Malley. That is Elenore 54:03 Okay. Dave 54:04 TRknight. Elenore 54:05 Yeah Dave 54:05 And Dr. Meredith Gray, Ellen Pompeo. Quick correction. I think I said no points for Kim last one. She did name Boston Legal, so that is two points. Sarah C 54:12 Yeah. Dave 54:13 Back to Sarah. Bonnie Plunkett. Dr. Aaron Glassman, Tommy Mullaney. Three characters. Those actors came together on another show. She's shaking her head. Do you want the clue? Sarah C 54:27 Let me take the clue. Dave 54:28 All right, Bonnie Plunkett is from Mom. Dr. Aaron Glassman is from The Good Doctor. Sarah C 54:33 Oh Dave 54:36 Tommy Mullaney is from LA Law. Sarah C 54:40 All right, I wonder if that's Alison Janney. I don't know mom. I know Alice and Janney's in it and then the small one with big eyes, whose name I don't know. Dave 54:49 The small one with bigger eyes! Tara 54:51 The disrespect for the Star of Spa Dave 54:52 Oh my god! Elenore 54:53 Wow Dave 54:54 Sticker Tara 54:54 Weekend Dave 54:55 shirt something. The small one with bigger eyes. Sarah C 54:58 So I'm I'm just gonna take a why so that's the end of my clues. I don't get anything else. Dave 55:03 That's right, you gotta name the show and the characters now. Sarah C 55:06 Yes, I do. So I'm going to say what was the middle one? Dave 55:12 Dr. Aaron Glassman from The Good Doctor. Sarah C 55:15 Okay, let me say the West Wing. Dave 55:18 That's good for a point. Sarah C 55:19 Oh my God Dave 55:21 So, you know the show Sarah C 55:22 Well, I do know the show. So Alice and Jenny played the press secretary. A fine and noble profession, as we all know. Uh, I do not know. Oh, maybe was was what's his name in LAlaw and then he went and did that Dave 55:43 Are we gonna get an answer here? Sarah C 55:43 and he's now on Tara 55:43 Tommy Mullini Sarah C 55:44 Rena No Mama No, I'm out, I'm out. Dave 55:46 Alright. Well you picked up a point there. Anybody just want to say the elements for shits and giggles? Elenore 55:52 C J Craig, etc. Dave 55:54 Yeah. Kim 55:54 Tob Toby Dave 55:56 Yep. Kim 55:56 and uh Leo. Dave 55:57 Leo, yes. Kim 55:57 Leo McGarry. Dave 55:59 Alright. Kim 55:59 Yeah Dave 55:59 Okay, to Kim, you've got Richard Wayne, Gary Wayne. That's one person. June Osborne. Melissa Chartre. Kim 56:08 Okay Dave 56:08 C H A R T R E S Kim 56:11 So I know that Richard Wayne, Gary Wayne, that's John Ham. And June Osborne, I'm pretty sure, is um what's her name? Elizabeth Moss. Uh so I'm gonna guess Badman. Dave 56:24 Good for two Kim 56:25 So that'll be Dawn Draper. What was her name? Peggy Dave 56:31 Peggy Kim 56:31 Olson. Dave 56:32 Olson? Kim 56:33 And then I'm just gonna guess Joan for the third one. No? Dave 56:37 No, six out of eight points there. Melissa was on the last man on earth, played by January Jones. Kim 56:43 Oh, January Jones, okay. Dave 56:45 So that's Betty Draper Kim 56:46 Betty, okay Dave 56:47 Nicely done though. Six out of eight. Back to Eleanor. You've got Dinjarin, Ilana Mormont, Olivia Dunham Elenore 56:57 Oh my God. Okay. Dave 57:00 Dinjarin, Alana Mormont, Olivia Dunham Elenore 57:04 If you insist, uh I'll take the hint Dave 57:09 Okay. Din Jardin from The Mandalorian. Liana Mormont from Game of Thrones. Olivia Dunham Fringe All those actors came together on another show where they played different characters. Elenore 57:25 Alright, that didn't help me, so regrettably I have to pass. Dave 57:30 Oh, passing. Kim's out of steel mills. Would you know it if you had a steel meal, Kim? Kim 57:35 Well, I think it's the last of us, but I have no idea what those characters are. Dave 57:38 Yeah, yeah. Kim 57:40 I just know that that the little Mormont girl was on The Last of Us. Dave 57:44 That's right, she plays Ellie, Pedro Pascal plays Joel, and Anna Torov plays Tess with the creepy mushroom kiss. Sarah C 57:50 And thank you for not even suggesting that I might use my Eric 's meal. You're very tactful, Dave. Dave 57:58 Alright, Sarah, here's your chance. Your characters are Michael Scott, Madeline Martha Mackenzie , Rachel Green. Sarah C 58:07 Okay, well Rachel Green is the one with the hair in Friends. Dave 58:13 What size of her eyes do you think? Sarah C 58:15 I should medium, about Dave 58:16 Medium eyes, yeah. Sarah C 58:18 very very proportional to her face. Dave 58:18 I agree. Yeah, yeah, medium eyes, good. Yep. Sarah C 58:21 Okay, uh Michael Scott is in the office, an American workplace. Dave 58:27 Yeah. Sarah C 58:28 played by um that man. Dave 58:30 Yep. Sarah C 58:31 What did they do together? Dave 58:33 You're getting so much right here. Sarah C 58:35 Yeah. Uh Dave 58:36 All right, do you know the show? Sarah C 58:37 so to g Dave 58:38 Do you need the hint? Sarah C 58:38 I know all of the mix i I know two of them and I don't know the middle one. Dave 58:40 Yeah. Alright, well, do you know something where Steve where where those two uh actors have come together? Sarah C 58:47 I'm just trying to think. Steve Carell. Thank you for the first name there, Dave. Steve Carell. Dave 58:51 Oops. Sarah C 58:51 And the one who played Rachel. I don't know her oo very much. So let me say, oh, is it the one where No, b uh let me I I think I know the show, but let's stall by you giving me the hint. Dave 59:04 All right. Michael Scott is from the office, Colon America's office, or whatever the hell we're doing here today. Sarah C 59:10 Mm-hmm Dave 59:10 Madeline is from Big Little Eyes and Rachel Green is from Friends with the medium-sized eyes and the haircut. Sarah C 59:17 Medium size size, but the the very important uh haircut. I I uh uh uh there there's a show where She's not look, just p put me out of my misery, please. Somebody steal it. Elenore 59:30 I'll steal a meal. I'm feeling desperate. Dave 59:32 All right, steel mill from Eleanor. Sarah C 59:34 Like Dave 59:34 Here we go. Sarah C 59:34 you're feeling desperate, Eleanor. Elenore 59:36 Yeah. Uh the show is the morning show. Sarah C 59:40 That's the word I was thinking of. Can I have a point for thinking of it Dave 59:43 Nope. Elenore 59:44 Reese Witherspoon is Riley Jackson Um, she has one of those names. Dave 59:56 Sh she does, but you're you're very close, but not on Elenore 59:57 Um Dave 59:58 not on the mark. Elenore 59:59 Okay, and then um Jennifer Aniston is Alex Levy, and I Oh, Steve Carell's Mitch. Dave 01:00:07 Yes, all right. Three out of four, three points. Nicely done. Last name is Jackson. First name Tara 01:00:13 Bradley Dave 01:00:13 Bradley. Elenore 01:00:13 Bradley Kim 01:00:15 Oh, that hurts. Elenore 01:00:16 I knew it was one of those like unisex names that young people have. Dave 01:00:18 Yeah, you were really close. You were so close. All right, Kim. Chalky White, Chief Irvin Irving, Robert Zane. Listen to your friend Bobby Zane. He's a cool guy. Chalky Kim 01:00:32 Okay. Dave 01:00:32 White, Chief Irvin, Irving, Robert Zane. Kim 01:00:36 Robert Dave 01:00:36 Three characters. Those actors came together on another show. What's that show and who did they play on that fourth common show? Kim 01:00:47 None of these uh are ringing any bells for me, so I would like a hint, please. Dave 01:00:51 Alright, Chalky White, Boardwalk Empire. Kim 01:00:54 Okay. Dave 01:00:54 Chief Irvin Irving, ba-ba-ba-ba-bosh. Robert Zane, suits Kim 01:01:00 Okay. Let's see. Boardwalk Empire, Chalky White. Gosh, I think the Oh now I'm gonna get people's names wrong. I'm trying to think, do I know any I don't know anyone on Bosch other than Titus Welliver. I don't know what he might have done. Robert Zane on suits. Oh wait a minute. Is it uh what is the is it the wire? Dave 01:01:25 Good for one point. Kim 01:01:26 Okay, that's all I'm gonna get. Elenore 01:01:26 Nice Kim 01:01:28 I don't know anything else Dave 01:01:28 Okay. Alright, well you got the wire. Good for one point. Anybody wanna steal any of this action? No? All right, Michael K. Williams played Chalky White in Boardwalk Empire. He plays Omar Little on the wire. Chief Irvin Irving played by the Lake Great Lance Riddick. That was uh Cedric. And Robert Zane played Bunk. That's Wendell Pierce. To Eleanor, you got Sean Harrison, Julia Houston, or perhaps Houston Tara 01:01:58 It's a Dave 01:01:59 It's Houston, says Tara. Tammy Swanson, I want to remind you, nobody's used their Tara lifeline so far this week. Elenore 01:02:07 Sorry, the first one was Dave 01:02:09 Sean Harrison. Like f Elenore 01:02:11 Sha Dave 01:02:12 Harrison. Like Harrison Ford. Elenore 01:02:14 Okay. Dave 01:02:17 Yeah. Sean Harrison, Julia Houston, Tammy Swanson. Elenore 01:02:22 Okay , there only were Oh, oh well the only show I know that this person was on was Will and Grace. Will so Will and Grace is the show? Dave 01:02:34 Two points for Will and Elenore 01:02:35 Okay. Dave 01:02:35 Grace took a leaf. Now opens her up for two-point character names. Elenore 01:02:40 And then Tammy Swanson is Karen something Dave 01:02:46 Karen Walker. Elenore 01:02:48 And then for Julia, I'm just gonna go ahead and say Grace. Dave 01:02:53 Yep, all right, sweep it. Elenore 01:02:53 Okay. Dave 01:02:55 Here we go. Elenore 01:02:55 And then for whoever Sean Dave 01:02:56 Sean Harrison Elenore 01:02:57 Harrison is It's probably not Will, because that would be too easy. There was that other guy. I hate this show, no offense. Um, Will. Sarah C 01:03:11 Eric 's mail. Dave 01:03:12 Sarah with the steel mill opportunity here. Sarah C 01:03:14 Just Jack. It's Jack. Dave 01:03:16 Good for a two-point steal. Nicely done. Sarah C 01:03:18 Thank you Dave 01:03:18 Alright, this will take us into our scorebreak. It is for Sarah. You've got Barbara Cooper. Nina Van Horn and Elizabeth. Just Elizabeth. Sarah C 01:03:31 Um, okay , ringing some faint bells. Um, if I call my Tara Lifeline, how many of the answers is she allowed to give me Dave 01:03:41 She can run the board for you. Sarah C 01:03:43 Tara, I can't see your face, but is this a good one to ask Tara 01:03:46 Yes, yes Sarah C 01:03:46 you for? Dave 01:03:47 Whoa. Sarah C 01:03:47 Question mark? Tara, lifeline Dave 01:03:49 I don't I don't think that was a legal maneuver, but now that it's happened, I guess I have to allow it. Sarah C 01:03:50 please. Elenore 01:03:50 No table talk Tara 01:03:54 Okay, they were all in hot in Cleveland Dave 01:03:58 And who are they, Tara? Tara 01:04:00 Barbara Cooper is oh wait, I forgot I have to say the character names. I don't know any of the character names, I only know the actors. Dave 01:04:07 Oh boy, you blew it. Sarah C 01:04:09 Wow. Tara 01:04:09 I blew it Dave 01:04:11 Oh, that's karma. That's karma Sarah C 01:04:13 No no, it's 'cause you're playing for me, Tara. Dave 01:04:13 if everyone. Elenore 01:04:13 Wow, Sarah C 01:04:15 You were taking on my Elenore 01:04:16 collusion doesn't pay off. Tara 01:04:17 Sorry. Sarah C 01:04:17 inability to play this game. Dave 01:04:18 Do you want to throw three names out there? Just in case you can get it on the first name, Sarah. No, you're done. Tara 01:04:24 Oh. Dave 01:04:25 We're done with you now, Sarah. Uh, Tara. Sarah C 01:04:26 Uh let's say uh Crystal, Maggie and cilantro Dave 01:04:32 Whoa, very close. Melanie, Victoria, and Elka. Elka from Hot in Cleveland, Betty White. She played Elizabeth in life with Elizabeth. All right. Need a scores, please. Tara 01:04:45 Okay, well, Kim has twenty-one, Eleanor has thirteen, Sarah has five Dave 01:04:53 All right, so the difference really was that giant steel mill at the start of the game from Kim so far. So lots of game left, lots of opportunities. Everybody is entering the Equalizer Challenge Zone. Tara 01:05:04 What? Elenore 01:05:05 Ah whoa Tara 01:05:06 Everybody Dave 01:05:07 Yes. Elenore 01:05:07 can we all fit Dave 01:05:09 Can we all fit? It's like the Phantom Zone from Superman. You just y'all just in the paint of glass. We got lots of room. You just can't get it. Here's how it's gonna work. I have picked for you a random classic TV card, Trivial Pursuit. I'm giving you each of you two questions from this one card. One steel mill for every question you get right. So you each have opportunity to get two steel meals for your uh little steel meal piggy bang. Tara 01:05:34 But they're not actually playing to equalize their score in this game. Dave 01:05:36 No, no score changes, just steel meals, which I would say in this game are much more valuable. Sarah, we're going to start you off with classics. Who was the only regular What's My Line panelist to appear on both the network and syndicated versions? Sarah C 01:05:53 Absolutely no idea. Dave 01:05:54 Yeah, no idea. Sarah C 01:05:55 I couldn't name a single cast member. Dave 01:05:57 Arlene Francis, don't you know? Sitcoms. You can get another steel mill with sitcom question Whose cousin was Barney Fife? Who was Barney Fife's cousin? Sarah C 01:06:09 Uh fish Dave 01:06:11 Fish? Who the hell is Fish? Oh, you think it you're thinking Barney from uh Barney Miller. Sarah C 01:06:17 Yes, Dave 01:06:17 No, Barney Fife is from the Andy Griffith show. That's Andy Taylor. Sarah C 01:06:19 yes, yeah Dave 01:06:21 Alright, no steel mills for you there. Let's move on to Elinor with drama. What city does Fox 's alien nation see transformed in the future? Elenore 01:06:32 Transformed in the future Dave 01:06:34 Yeah. Elenore 01:06:34 or into the future? Tara 01:06:35 Don't overthink it. Dave 01:06:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where does alienation take place? Is the easier way to say that question? Elenore 01:06:39 What city? Roswell? New Mexico? Dave 01:06:43 Los Tara 01:06:44 That would have been them overthinking it. Dave 01:06:44 Angeles. Yeah. Elenore 01:06:46 Okay. Dave 01:06:47 Kids in Games, who, according to his theme song, is always in the Ranger's hair Elenore 01:06:55 Well, sounds like a kid, not a game. Always in the ranger's hair. Uh, Rocky the Squirrel Dave 01:07:04 Yeah, you had the spirit, right, but we're looking for Yogi Bear. Elenore 01:07:07 Ooh, okay. Closer than I thought. Dave 01:07:09 All right, Kim, here we go. Elenore 01:07:10 Yeah. Dave 01:07:11 How are you in baseball, Kim? Kim 01:07:13 Not very good. Dave 01:07:14 What baseball manager touted Slimfast Diet Chow on TV ads in 1990? Kim 01:07:19 Oh my God, I remember these Dave 01:07:22 Also had a video game franchise very shortly. Kim 01:07:24 Was it Tommy Lasorda? Dave 01:07:26 Yes it was. Elenore 01:07:27 Nice Dave 01:07:28 Wildcard, what US president's pop financed the pilot of the Dictyvant Dyke show? Before he answered, just let me figure out what they're saying. Pop as and father. What USpresident's father financed the pilot of the Dick Van Dyke Show? Kim 01:07:42 Okay. Um Dave 01:07:44 So we want the name of the US Kim 01:07:46 I'm just gonna guess it was John Kennedy's father. Dave 01:07:46 president. You are correct, John Kim 01:07:50 Oh gosh. Dave 01:07:50 F. Kennedy is the answer. Alright, the person who needed steel meals the least has just gained two. All right, back to Kim for the next question. We've got Dr. Kim 01:07:59 Okay Dave 01:07:59 Adam Mayfair, Jessica Pearson, and Jessica Brody. Three characters, three different actors. Those actors came together on a fourth common show playing what characters? And what is the show? Kim 01:08:13 The only one that sounds familiar is Jessica Pearson, and I think that was um on suits. I those other ones aren't I don't I would like a hint, please Dave 01:08:24 Dr. Adam Mayfair and Desperate Housewives Jessica Pearson, indeed, suits. Jessica Brody, homeland. Any idea here? Kim 01:08:33 I don't the only person I knew from Homeland was was the um uh Carrie Matheson, so that doesn't help me I I d I do not know. I have no idea. Dave 01:08:45 Alright, anybody want to steal mill this? Four points on the table. Elenore 01:08:48 Nope. Dave 01:08:49 The show is Firefly. Desperate Housewives, Nathan Fillion played Malcolm. Kim 01:08:52 Oh Dave 01:08:55 Gina Torres, Elenore 01:08:55 Yeah, of course. Dave 01:08:56 Jessica Pearson from Seuss, played Zoe, and Jessica Brody, Marita Bachron played Inara there. Kim 01:09:01 All right. I don't feel bad not knowing that. Dave 01:09:04 Eleanor, here we go. Nate Fisher, Lorelai Gilmore, Lori Colson. Those are your three characters. Elenore 01:09:12 More Laurie Colton. Dave 01:09:15 Put them through your arrow machine. Elenore 01:09:16 Okay. Dave 01:09:17 That character maps to that actor, and then they all came together on what show? Elenore 01:09:22 Well the show is Parenthood. Dave 01:09:23 You're correct, two points. Elenore 01:09:25 And whoo, the names really all blend together on that show. You won't accept just Mr. or Miss Braverman for any of them. Dave 01:09:32 In this case I will not. This is the only case in which that will not give you any points. Elenore 01:09:35 Okay. All right. Dave 01:09:38 I need first names here. Elenore 01:09:39 Um so Peter Krause Dave 01:09:42 Sorry, who? Elenore 01:09:43 oh Peter Sarah C 01:09:44 Peter Elenore 01:09:45 Krause. Sarah C 01:09:45 Krauser. Dave 01:09:45 Thank you. Elenore 01:09:47 Um, who do I who am I most likely to say correctly? Dave 01:09:49 Can I tell you how pleased I am that people knew what I was pausing for there? That's great. That really made my day. Okay, first names, three characters. Elenore 01:09:57 Yeah, I think I'm gonna I definitely won't get them all, so let me try Sarah Braverman. Dave 01:10:05 Another two Elenore 01:10:05 Okay Dave 01:10:05 points. Elenore 01:10:07 And then how about Nick? Okay. Dave 01:10:12 No. Okay, nobody's steel milling, so you get a last crack here. Tara 01:10:16 Lori Colson. Elenore 01:10:17 Other one was okay so oh Tara 01:10:19 Right? Lori? Elenore 01:10:20 Sarah Braverman Tara 01:10:20 Was that the first name? Dave 01:10:20 Yeah, Lori with an eye. Yep. Elenore 01:10:23 uh Gina Braverman Dave 01:10:26 Alright, so Nate Fisher, six feet under, played by Peter Krause, is Adam Braverman. You got Sarah played by Laura Lai, correct, of course, uh Lauren Graham. Lori Colson's character is from Boston Legal, played by Monica Potter, and she is Christina Braverman. Elenore 01:10:41 Great Dave 01:10:42 Sarah, are you ready? Sarah C 01:10:44 I am absolutely ready. Dave 01:10:47 Gia Goodman, Hazel Williams, Dawson Leary Sarah C 01:10:53 Um okay, I know one of those. So Dave 01:10:58 So you know what show it isn't? Sarah C 01:11:00 I know what show it isn't, and I'm just trying to think of what else he was on. Uh I do watch television, everybody Dave 01:11:07 Yeah. But it's upside down there, so it's right? That's the joke we're going with? Yeah. Sarah C 01:11:12 To to make out. Elenore 01:11:13 Yeah, it goes the other way. Sarah C 01:11:14 Let me Dave 01:11:15 Yeah, it starts from the end, it goes to the beginning there too, I think. And the hamburgers eat people. Sarah C 01:11:18 yes Yes, yes, yes, so true. Dave 01:11:21 Well, actually it is kind of true. Sarah C 01:11:22 Uh so true. Dave 01:11:23 That's what I'd hope at Australia. Sarah C 01:11:23 All right. Uh Dave 01:11:25 Everything's out to kill you. Sarah C 01:11:26 let me take the hint just to pull the pin on an eight point Dave 01:11:28 Okay. Sarah C 01:11:30 steel Dave 01:11:31 Gia is from Veronica Mars. He's a Williams gossip girl, Dawson Leary from Dawson's Creek. Sarah C 01:11:37 Right. Uh was it his creek Dave 01:11:40 Um, you know, he leased it. Sarah C 01:11:41 It was. Uh I'm just look, just I'm I'm gonna pass. Dave 01:11:43 You don't know any part of this? Sarah C 01:11:44 Somebody steal it. I don't know any part of it, somebody steal it. Dave 01:11:45 No? Hmm. Four points on the board. No. Okay. We were looking for the show Don't Trust the Bee in Apartment Sarah C 01:11:55 Oh, yeah. Tara 01:11:56 Twenty-three. Dave 01:11:56 Tw twenty-three. It says twenty-two here. I'm like, that's not right. It's supposed to rhyme. Sarah C 01:12:00 It's next Tara 01:12:00 You don't want to know what they call the person who lives in apartment twenty-two. Sarah C 01:12:01 door. Tara 01:12:04 It's an even worse name. Dave 01:12:05 Kristen Ritter played Gia on Veronica Mars. Chloe here. Hazel Williams is June on the show played by wow Dreema Walker. Tara 01:12:15 Yeah. Dave 01:12:16 Great name. And Dawson Leary played himself James Vanderbeek Sarah C 01:12:20 Yeah, uh Dave 01:12:21 on the show. Sarah C 01:12:21 okay. Dave 01:12:22 Kim, you've got Brenda Walsh , Ella Montgomery, Samantha Masselli. Kim 01:12:30 Oh, okay. So that is charmed. And um all right, there were the three Ps. So there was Piper Phoebe and Prue. Dave 01:12:46 Eight Tara 01:12:46 Wow. Dave 01:12:47 point answer, yes. Elenore 01:12:48 Wow Kim 01:12:48 I Tara 01:12:48 Nicely done. Kim 01:12:49 I almost I almost said the fourth one that that came later, but I cut myself Dave 01:12:53 Brenda from Beverly Hills played by Shando. You had Ella from Pretty Little Liars played by Holly Marie Combs. And Samantha, who 's the boss, Alyssa Milano. Alright, this is question 17. Tara 01:13:05 Smith Sarah C 01:13:05 Studio Dave 01:13:07 It is for Eleanor. Your characters are Leonard Winstone, Alex Russo, Clark Hayden. Tara 01:13:12 , Dave 01:13:16 Let's see, our three character names. Actors who betrayed those characters came together on a fourth show. Named the show and the characters they played. Elenore 01:13:25 Yeah, I need the hint. Dave 01:13:26 Alright, Leonard is from Damages, Alex is from Wizards of Waverly Place, and Clark is from The Good Wife Elenore 01:13:35 All right, so that is only murders in the building. Dave 01:13:38 You are correct, one point. And now for the character names. Elenore 01:13:43 Oh shit, I know the actors and I don't know the characters. Uh Dave 01:13:48 It's nice to know some people perceive TV like I do. Elenore 01:13:51 Yeah, yeah, I got none. I got no character names. Dave 01:13:53 There's old guy with banjo. Yeah, uh-huh. Elenore 01:13:55 Yeah, I'm like Martin Short, Selena Gomez, but yeah, no. Dave 01:13:58 All right, so I'm buzzing you out there? Elenore 01:14:00 Yep. Dave 01:14:01 Okay. Anybody want to steal mill that? Three points? No. Okay, we're looking for Leonard, played by Martin Short, is Oliver. Mabel played by Selena Gomez. Teddy played by Nathan Lane. Those are your answers, Sarah. All right, let's move on to Sarah. You've got Ruth Wilder. Ernest Ern Marks. Sylvester Pemberton. Sarah C 01:14:26 Uh, let me take the hint, please. Dave 01:14:27 Ruth is from Glow. Ern is from Atlanta. Sylvester is from Stargirl. Sarah C 01:14:36 Okay, community Dave 01:14:37 Community is correct. Yes, two points. Who are the character names here? Sarah C 01:14:43 Alright, so tell me the actors who played them and I'll tell you the characters. Dave 01:14:48 That's not part of the clue structure. Sarah C 01:14:50 Mm-hmm. Okay, alright. Uh Britta Dave 01:14:54 Nope, two more guesses unless somebody's gonna steel mill at this point. Sarah C 01:14:58 Uh, let me say then Dean Pelton Dave 01:15:03 One more guess. Sarah C 01:15:05 Uh, let me say a bid Dave 01:15:10 Just naming everybody else. You got all the names right, so we so that's good. Uh we're looking for Annie played by Allison Bree, Troy played by Donald Glover, Jeff played by Joel McHale, who was in Stargirl apparently. Sarah C 01:15:17 Yes. The other three, the other three. Dave 01:15:24 All right, this is Clips 01:15:26 Oh nine day. Oh nine oh nine eight nine eight oh nine days Dave 01:15:30 And it is the start of everybody's last question. Here is yours, Kim. You've got John Bennett. Paris Geller , Michelle Obama. Those are the characters. Kim 01:15:41 Oh, those are the characters. Dave 01:15:43 Yeah. Kim 01:15:45 Um Dave 01:15:45 Michelle Obama don't want to trip you up there and flip your brain. John Bennett, Paris Kim 01:15:48 Okay Dave 01:15:50 Geller, Michelle Obama, three characters, the actors that portrayed those characters showed up in another Common Fourth show. Name that show and name the characters they played. Kim 01:15:59 Pretty sure Okay. Well of course I know who Michelle Obama is, but I don't recall anyone playing her. Dave 01:16:05 Yeah. Kim 01:16:05 So and I the only other one I recognize is Paris Skeller, but I can't think of anything that she was also in. I'm gonna need a hint, please. Dave 01:16:13 John Bennett is from Orange is the New Black. Paris Geller is from Gilmore Girls. Michelle Obama as seen in The First Lady. Kim 01:16:22 The First Lady. Okay. Dave 01:16:25 This is a tough one. Kim 01:16:27 Um I think that the Paris Geller actress was in How to Get Away with Murder, I'm just gonna guess that. Dave 01:16:36 You are correct. Good for one point. Kim 01:16:37 Okay. I don't know anyone's character's name. Dave 01:16:40 Fantastic, great. Alright. Anybody want to take a crack of those character names? Steel mail it? Elenore 01:16:44 I will Dave 01:16:44 Alright, Eleanor, here we go. Elenore 01:16:46 uh start with most least confident Annalise Keating Bonnie Dave 01:16:53 Bonnie Winterbottom Elenore 01:16:54 something, and also Asher Dave 01:16:56 Yes, three, four, three. Elenore 01:16:57 something. Tara 01:16:57 Wow Kim 01:16:58 Wow, good Dave 01:16:59 Nicely done. Kim 01:16:59 job. Dave 01:17:00 All right, three points for you. Eleanor, here comes your last full question. You've got Bob Belcher. Dr. Tara or Tara Lewis, Kitty Sanchez, or Sanchez. Bob Belcher, Dr. Tara Lewis, Kitty Sanchez. Those are your three characters. Elenore 01:17:18 I'll take the hit. Dave 01:17:20 Bob Belter is from Bob's Burgers. Dr. Tara Lewis is from Friends. Kitty Sanchez is from Oppressive Development. Elenore 01:17:29 Okay. Um this would help if I ever watched Friends in my life, which I haven't. Uh Dave 01:17:38 That's from Friends. Elenore 01:17:40 Uh yeah. Um to avoid giving any hints, uh, I'm just gonna pass out. Not pass out, pass. Dave 01:17:50 Alright, and we are ending it there with how to get away with mud. Let's get the final scores. Asterisk. There were some technical difficulties. If you're scoring at home, it doesn't quite match up. But trust us, these are the scores. Clips 01:18:04 No, no, that's that's got the most Tara 01:18:05 Sarah had nine, Eleanor Clips 01:18:06 but not for it, not Tara 01:18:07 had twenty-one, Kim Clips 01:18:07 that bear it. Don't look and Tara 01:18:10 thirty Clips 01:18:10 do put not bear and come Dave 01:18:11 Wow, all right, so Kim takes the second game. Clips 01:18:11 let's not Elenore 01:18:12 Cheese Clips 01:18:12 go put both Dave 01:18:14 Let's play the tiebreaker here. First person to shout out the name of the show in question. We'll win a steel mill for future use this month. Are you ready? I'm gonna give you three character names. Elenore 01:18:25 Yes. Dave 01:18:27 First person to shout out. The show in common wins the steel mill. Here we go. The 11th Doctor. Dr. Dick Solomon, Dana Scully. Kim 01:18:39 The crown Dave 01:18:40 The crown is correct, yes. Doctor Who, played by Matt Smith, who is Prince Philip. Dr. Dick Solomon, third rock from the Sun, played by recent Disgreso John Lithgow. Tara 01:18:52 Yeah. Dave 01:18:53 He was Winston Churchill, and Dana Scully played Margaret Thatcher Well, she didn't. But it'd be great if Dana Sculley actually did play Margaret Thatcher. That I watch. Alright, today's second week again belongs to Kim. Clips 01:19:07 Valued guest. Elenore 01:19:08 Let's go, Grand Slam Clips 01:19:09 Valued guest. Elenore 01:19:10 Kim Sarah C 01:19:11 Yes, amazing. Dave 01:19:13 Thank you everybody. We'll see you again next week for Listener Game Time. Well guys, that is it for another episode of Extra Extra Hot Grade. We discuss if Flanagan's adaptation of Stephen King's Carrie should be on your bucket list before answering your burning ass E H Thank you. Before answering your burning ask EHE questions like, what Sarah 01:19:31 Get out. Dave 01:19:34 car is speaking at you funeral? And how are you adding more sharks to television? Colin from account's epic coffin flop was voted into the tiny funeral canon. We celebrated those who weren't quite the best and worst of the week. And Kim was the winner of this week's game time from Amy. Next up, it's Cooper Tino on EHGperime. Remember. Clips 01:19:59 We're listening. Dave 01:20:02 I am David T. Cole and on behalf of Tara Ariano Tara 01:20:06 And in white pants, too. Dave 01:20:08 and Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 01:20:10 We've got your cult of three right here. Dave 01:20:12 Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time right here on Extra, Extra Hot Great Clips 01:20:30 Is that all there is? If that's all there is, my friend. Then let's keep dancing Sarah 01:20:43 Oh, you didn't include the sack of shoes? That's too bad. Dave 01:20:46 The flop , no. Clips 01:20:54 This is Extra Hot Great Minis. Today's topic is the horror adaptation. So since we're in a post Hannibal and Bates Motel and Penny Dreadful and Unnecessary Rosemary's Baby remake world with regard to TV. I thought we could Go around and talk about which other book or movie monsters or horror characters we would like to see starring in um their own TV series and who would we get to play them. Sarah. Well these this isn't really a monster because the monster in question is a Satan spawn and he's a six-year-old But I would like to see a TV version or extended miniseries of The Omen. Nice. I would like Michael Cudlett's and And Patricia Velazquez, who you will remember as Marta from Arrested Development, among other things, as the couple and as the priest who tries to help them won Cedric Daniels. That's right. That's right. I love it. And that is mine. Jeff, what you got in the horror vein? I'm thinking uh Go Historical, Jack the Ripper. Um but not a traditional uh who done it, but sort of uh multiple characters following different historical suspects uh for Jack the Ripper, whether it's like Walter Sickert or Dr. William Gull or the Duke of Clarence. Maybe all these characters, and we don't know as the viewer who Jack the Ripper actually is Um we jump around between these stories and they kind of weave together and blah blah blah. Um as far as who would play them, uh my dream project is uh kind of something that would have a lot of British actors who are better known in the States for playing Yankees. So like Hugh Lore or Jamie Bamber, have them all just bust out their British accents and you know, let it all hang out playing their various Jack Ripper suspects. Tim Roth maybe? There you go. Sarah, this sounds like a hundred percent bunt nip. This is bunt nip. All right. We'll have a meeting. Uh let's do it. This is isn't strictly horror, it's more in the Hannibal kind of vein. But and I don't think they made a movie out of it. I think they were threatening to, but they didn't. It was it was a it's a book. One half of the book is good. It's called the Devil in the White City. Uh-huh. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. There's one half of the book that's about the serial killer, and there's another half of the book that's about the exposition that's really boring. So if you take the half about Meaning the world fair, not narrative exposition. Oh yeah, sorry. The serial killer part was really interesting. It was really intricate. Yeah. And he had like a house with like secret corridors and all it was like he had basically like a mousetrap of a house and it's really interesting and it would make like a great like a miniseries, like a like a ten ten and done kind of s s season. If you get the book, trust me, just every time they're talking about tents and Ferris wheels and whatnot, skip it. Giant blocks of ice. Yeah, exactly. Skip it. Gets get to the killer part. I don't really know what that book was trying to do, but it failed. I will also add that um the I've seen a number of like history channel and investigation discovery like documentary shows about this guy, H. H. Holmes, and they're all so shitty. Like this guy was so interesting and they just can't seem to do a good And the time period's good too. I mean I think I feel like we've had a lot of shows recently that have hit that that general era. Turn of the century. Yes, eighteen eighties or nineties. Isn't that when that sh new show, The Nick, is set Two. Maybe that's a bit later. Might be. Well, you know, give or take. Yeah. But yeah, and it feels like, you know, like anything that looks like it could should be on a sepia postcard from that era. You know, you got anything from the eighteen eighties up to Br uh Boardwalk Empire kind of fits that. And I feel like the time is right for that. Well, mine is The Cabin in the Woods. Um one of my favorite movies of whatever year that was, twenty thir Eleven? Yeah. Um that was great. That's a good. So much fun. And I think it could work as a TV series because you potentially I mean, even though they established in the movie that it's sort of like all these monsters living underneath this specific cabin. Yeah. Yeah. Demonic franchise opportunity. Exactly. Or, you know Like whatever, you would you would need to have different I mean, they show them flashing to other other mayhem that's happening in other like the witnesses. It's an anthology. Yeah. Or a workplace drama. Where would it be set the control room? Yeah. It's the control room. It starts in the control room, yeah, yeah. And then it you know, i from week to week you could see them managing different you know, different m horrible scenarios that they have planned and how they play out. Maybe they all weave together at the end of the season. Maybe they don't. I don't really care. And the best part of this is that all four of the main Um office cast are not too good for TV. We have Bradley Whitford, Richard Jenkins, Amy Acker, and uh Brian White. Oh yeah, right Um and all of them I think would be great. They could all reprise their roles. Certainly they would be having more fun than Amy Acker probably was in Agents of Shield recently. Like once in a while you can do a monster bio episode where it's sort of like Yeah. Here's where the monster came from. Told from the monster's perspective. Exactly. Yep. So that's probably behind certified. This is a really good idea. Like it's installable. Thank you, Dave. Let's buy the rights for Cabin in the Woods. Cabins in the Woods is. Yes. This is Extra Hot Great Minis. Today's topic is citation needed. Jeffrey S, relatively new to the podcast, I believe, wants to know where all the evergreen clips we use come from. So I don't know if this is going to be completely exhaustive, but let's run it down. Uh, here we go. Yay! Chime in if you know what it's from. Foster's home for Imaginary Friends. Yes, that is uh Cheese. Cheese from Cheese. In a Penfriat That's late night with Conan O'Brien. Yes, that was from their uh cable new cable network shows, right? Yes. So great Brian Stack, who's now a writer and sometime Uh actor on Colbert. That particular sketch written by the guy who went on to create metallics. Yeah, Tommy Blacka. That's bullshit. Madman. Yeah. Forgiveness, please. Simpsons. Simpsons. That's from the Press episode. One of the greatest episodes ever. Dick Feud, right? Yeah. Family feud and I do believe I have the full one one here somewhere, which we'll maybe catch later Beep beep beep beep beep beep beep Oh time for another Torah update The in-betweeners. Yeah, that's from so good. Who will fight me? Three Dave points for the person who can actually pull the name of this show. Oh God, what was it called? It's not Olympus. No, it's a it's biblical. Yeah. King No, it's not kings. Yeah, I think it is. It's kings and prophets, I think, isn't it? Something and prophets. Gods and prophets. Gods and prophets. No, it's not gods and prophets. Alright, well somebody look that up as we go along. Okay. That was Sarah. We actually recorded her We all know what that is. The more you know, the more you know. Yeah. Say what That 's clone high, no. That's clone high, yeah. What that's playing house. Playing house, yeah That's a piece of music mostly well m from the John Adams. Yeah. The surprise chipmunk. What is it? John Adams. Well that's what I used it for. Those are both from Archer. Yeah, that's Lana from Archer. Yeah. Uh let's see here. Uh sweet Eminem Father! Joe asked me to collect that. That's from the good wife It is Kings and Prophets. Sarah was right. Not just Kings. Kings was a different show. But why? That's my niece Liv. Yeah. That was our that was our sound clip for uh Megan from Mad Men. Oh yeah. Not from anything, but that's what That's not that much cheese. That's from 30 Rock We all know that's from CSI Miami. CSI Miami. Simpsons. Simpsons. Remember this one? I saved it. Schlitz? Is that the beer? Some beer. It's Oh, is it Schlitz? Some beer. Yeah, something like that. God damn, Cole, how many ways are there for me to say shut the fuck up? True detectives is what? Uh looking forward to uh using this next week. Thank you. Hello Nasu. Futurama. Oh my god I need that. Frisky ding no extacles. Yes, the frisky dingo uh spin-off. Yeah Willy cares, yeah. Willy don't care. Yeah. Oh boy, what do we got here? Oh potato potato potato potato Uh arrested development. Yes, that is plus the wiggles. Yes, that is um from the Mr. F storyline. Um Timothy Off with his pants, his pants, original creation by yours truly, in honor of Sarah's unending owner For Timothy Oliver. No, mine, not Sarah's. I mean , it's totally Tara. Yeah, my boner occasionally takes a break. As I understand. We'll we'll check in with Sarah in about twenty years. She had a she had an unending boner on a different person from that show. Yes. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now Domer Domer I miss on dealing with that. No you to don't say that. No, I bring it back. They'll they'll they'll reboot it somehow. I am not a crackpot! Oh wait, that's the wrong one. Dog butt. Has Miss Bunting gone? Oh wait. There's another one. Downtown Abbey. Yep. Yes. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. Sometimes when we make a list. Yeah. Might hear that one next to me too. Once in a while this comes up. I think we all know what this is from. Sure do. Chung time. Haven't heard that one in a long time. Yay, Boardwalk Empire. Yeah Oh, for Christ's sake, fuck off, Cole. True D. Yep. Ha ha! Hoarders. Hey, head like this bookie walk My knee-jerk response was Joan Ramos. Oh, here we go. Give me a slang name for policeman. Dick! And finally, Dick Ending on an announcement. Miss Sarah Bunting. What on earth is she doing here? That's doubting Abby. And that's pretty good rundown of uh our evergreen. Whoops, nope, nope. That's our theme song. And here's what we end with.