Did In The Test Kitchen Win Friends With Salad?

Clip 00:00 I happen to be sitting with a lot of people who have very strong opinions about salads. Dave 00:11 This is the Extra Extra Hot Great Podcast, episode 425 for the August 22nd, 2026 weekend. I am White Lady Smitten by generic Asian salad David T. Cole, and I'm here with, oh I don't know how to say this word, tomato aspic, Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 00:34 What you call me Dave 00:36 And joyless chewing Tara Ariano Tara 00:38 Hell yeah Dave 00:44 I had an ass pick once and uh let me tell you it gets everything up. Tara 00:50 Welcome to Extra Hot Great for another weekend. Thank you so much for your support. Thank you for being here and thank you especially to Wendy, supplier of the August Forcening Topic. Wow. Sarah 01:15 Well shit Oh Tara 01:17 I'm just gonna wait. Sarah 01:34 Oh no. Dave 01:37 Oh no! Sarah 01:38 Uh don't get up, we'll divorce ourselves. Dave 01:38 Alright, well thanks for coming everybody. We'll see you next time at next extra. Mm-hmm Tara 01:47 Yes. Dave 01:49 Yeah. Tara 01:52 Thank you especially to Wendy, supplier of the August Forcening Topic. It is the In the Test Kitchen episode: What makes a salad exciting? Features hosts taking you behind the scenes of their bustling kitchen. Pretty much exactly what its title promises. A discussion of salad history, hosts' salad preferences, and a taste test of three different salads Wendy writes, it's four collegial people sitting together and talking about food and life. It made me think of EHG.this particular episode they talk about salad, which I know some of you make and eat regularly. But it's the very end of the episode that made me laugh and think of you all. It's just pleasant. Let's do the Chen check-in, Sarah. Should our listeners watch in the test kitchen? Sarah 02:41 I think if you are having trouble sleeping, this could be soothing slow TV.otherwise, no. Dave 02:48 I think if you're about to die, this is great because it make the last few minutes of your life feel like six months. Sarah 02:56 Wow. Tara 02:57 It's a no for me as well. Let's get into it. First things first. This is not a TV show, per se. I went looking for this on IMDB and Wikipedia. I tried drilling down both of those via the hosts' names. Nothing came up. I finally found that blog post. on the official website for America's Test Kitchen that I quoted earlier and found that this is in fact a video podcast, which had I realized this before we announced it would have made me switch topics, but we're here now and I don't blame Wendy for the chicanery. There's nothing on the actual page on Netflix that tells you What kind of program this actually is. So, Dave, when we were talking about this yesterday, it sounded like you could tell there was something off about it. Dave 03:41 Yeah, it's just a podcast with all that implies. Tara 03:42 Mm-hmm. Dave 03:44 I mean, it's just like a hang podcast with people that seem like they know what they're talking about, but apparently don't. A lot of the times. This show made me really angry. Tara 03:54 Yeah Dave 03:54 It made me want to apologize to Pete Davison. Tara 03:59 Let's let's not get crazy. Dave 03:59 I mean, there's worse out there, Pete. Sarah 04:00 That's angry. Dave 04:02 Thank you for your service. This made me so angry. Tara 04:06 Mm-hmm. Dave 04:07 I was so angry after I was watching this. Tara 04:09 Okay. Dave 04:09 Like, yeah. Tara 04:10 Why? Dave 04:11 Uh, because well first of all, and this is on me, reading the title, which is what again, the episode title Tara 04:14 Hm. It what makes a salad exciting Dave 04:20 Sounds like it was like Julia Child era show and that was just like a silly title that they were taking very earnestly back then. So first problem was I thought this was a retro show and then I turned it on and some nephthlike shit. Tara 04:32 Oh yeah. Dave 04:34 Problem number one, again, that's on me But the content is so fluffy and inconsequential and often just meaninglessly wrong and should have been on the editing floor. That the whole thing, even though I started watching at a sped up speed at a certain point, 'cause I was like homooo and huffin', it was Tara 04:56 And it's twenty-four minutes long, by the way. Dave 04:57 It's only 24 minutes long, but still. And then just a a lot of things that people say that that made me angry. It was just flabby. Tara 05:05 Mm-hmm. Dave 05:05 And it made me made me upset. Tara 05:06 Sarah, Sarah. Dave 05:08 On a personal level. On a meta molecular level. Tara 05:11 Uh-huh. Dave 05:11 Sarah? Sarah 05:12 Yes. Tara 05:13 Did you feel there was something off about it? Sarah 05:16 I did. It was when uh the one host got up and then another host was describing his outfit. And I was like, oh, this is really a podcast. This just seemed like the kind of HGTV Food Network After Dark show that is just like Filler. Tara 05:37 Mm-hmm. Sarah 05:37 I was annoyed that nobody spoke up to condemn Frisé, which I hate, like it's a person who slapped me one time. This was extremely slow. It was not all that informational. Like if they were sort of getting into the history of like You know, here's why raw vegetables were, quote, not popular for a long time. Like talk about how people thought tomatoes were poison, because they're relatives of the nightshade. anything that's not information that we already have and sort of lovingly but not lovingly enough shot salad. Like what makes a salad exciting? Nothing. Knowing that it'll be over soon and you can get to the protein. Dave 06:23 What if there was a hand grenade under all the salad stuff? And if you fork it the wrong way, you pull the pin. Sarah 06:31 That's not exciting exactly. That's traumatizing and scary. And okay, salad go boom. Nope, still not that exciting. Tara 06:41 Mm-hmm. Dave 06:41 What was the show where Salad goes boom? Dismantled? Tara 06:44 Yes, yes. Dave 06:44 But also I'm I'm thinking of the bowl in Hollywood game night. The bowl of glitter or whatever it was. Tara 06:49 Oh, yeah, yeah, mm-hmm. Dave 06:50 Yeah Sarah 06:50 Or it's like operation, but with salad, it takes a steady hand. Dave 06:52 Yeah, that's right. Sarah 06:55 Oh, there goes your hand. Dave 06:56 You only want the chicken parts. Uh oh Tara 07:01 Yeah Dave 07:01 Okay, there's some actual questions they bring up that also were part of the reason why I got angry at this. Tara 07:08 Mm-hmm. Dave 07:09 There is the what defines a salad conversation, which nobody was prepared for. Tara 07:12 Yeah. Yeah, that that was strange. Sarah 07:15 Yeah Dave 07:17 The definitions were all over the map from it's something at room temperature, which could describe the books on my bookshelf. Tara 07:24 mm Dave 07:25 And they were trying to come up with rules for salads, right? You know, what what actually is defined a salad. And they're going on about tuna salad and chicken salad and Potato salad, jello salad. And here's my rule to add to their list. If you stick your hand in your salad bowl and you throw that goo against the wall and it sticks, not a salad. Tara 07:50 Yeah, that's fair Dave 07:51 I want to see my salad bounce off the wall and fall on the floor and I'll just eat it there. Sarah 07:56 But also, did you just show up and get this topic five minutes before you started? Dave 07:59 Yes. Tara 08:01 Yeah Sarah 08:02 Like, okay, the history of salad as a starter versus a like palate cleanser. Talk more about that. Dave 08:08 But part of that was like the history of Salad. And the guy's like, the Romans gave us the origin of the word lettuce. Tara 08:11 Yeah. Dave 08:14 And they're like, alright, any follow-up to that? No, okay. Just some Roman word, I guess. Tara 08:19 Yeah. Sarah 08:19 Well, and on top of everything else, like watching this now, when like actually salads are bombs gut bombs. Like, you know, it's like iceberg is underrated. I'm like, you know, not really. Dave 08:32 Yeah. Sarah 08:33 Not by the makers of Tidy Bowl, it's not. Like when I'm getting a Update from Gothamist like every two weeks, and it's like, Bulletin, is it safe to eat salad yet? And they're like, no. Anyway, Mom Donnie did this. Like, oh my god. Tara 08:44 Mm-hmm. Sarah 08:46 Guys Dave 08:46 Madani started using cabbage. News at eleven. Sarah 08:51 I know absolutely Dave 08:53 Socialist cabbage Tara 08:57 This production also, in addition to how unprepared everyone seems, if you're watching with the captions They are clearly AI generated. They misspell all of the hosts' names. Like that's the level of oversight. Sarah 09:09 Yeah Dave 09:10 Mm-hmm. Tara 09:11 Everyone's name is spelled wrong in the captions I saw. Dave 09:13 Wow. There's a little game they play, and it's very special because they never play games on this show. And the guy has five jars of dressing, and he has to guess what everybody's dressing is. Tara 09:24 Yes Okay, first of all, let me interrupt. He he gives this game to himself and he says, I'm going to play therapist, which like if this is therapy, I guess I don't know how therapy works, but go on. Dave 09:33 Yes Well, in a in a therapy session, what you would usually do in this context is unscrew the jar of dressing and pour it all over that person's face and chest and kind of rub it in for a bit. Tara 09:51 Oh, okay. Dave 09:51 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I guess you've never been to therapy. Tara 09:52 Mm-hmm. Right, no, I haven't. Sarah 09:54 Emulsion therapy Tara 09:55 Hmm Dave 09:56 So this guy does this game, which is not really a game. He's like, okay, you seem like a vinaigrette person, you seem like a blue cheese person, with like such minimal reasoning. That it just could have been like, here's some product placement, just show it to the camera, sort of Waynes World style, and move on with your life. Tara 10:14 Yeah. Dave 10:17 Gets every single one wrong, and then that's the end of the game. Tara 10:19 Yes, he does. Dave 10:20 There's no like this is why I'm actually a blue cheese person, by the way, Fuck off blue cheese. Tara 10:20 Yep Sarah 10:21 Mm-hmm. How dare you? Tara 10:27 Okay, well I that was I was gonna ask if those were the five choices and they are creamy Caesar, blue cheese, balsamic vinaigrette, ranch, or hot sauce, which is Nick's out of the box choice. You're obviously not blue cheese, Dave. What are you having of those choices? Dave 10:42 I mean I like hot sauce and stuff, but not directly on a traditional salad. Tara 10:47 Yeah. Dave 10:47 Like w I have my standard salad that I make, which is cabbage based, because I like the crunch. Tara 10:54 Uh-huh. Dave 10:54 And I will put in wheat meat with hot sauce like marinated in hot sauce and that goes on top, just kind of like a chicken Caesar or something like that. But I don't think I would like actually dribble Frank's hot sauce on top of the salad. Tara 11:07 Yeah Dave 11:07 Of those, probably would have to go vinaigrette, just because I just tend towards the non-buttermilk-based ones Tara 11:13 Mm-hmm. Sarah sounds like your blue cheese would be your choice. Sarah 11:16 I think so, yeah. Tara 11:18 Ranch for me 'Cause they don't have craft creamy cucumber in America. And that is a problem with this country. I'm gonna say it, the biggest problem with this country right now. Sarah 11:28 What I would actually do is Dijon and a little oil, which someone mentioned. Tara 11:30 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sarah 11:34 Mustard greens. I like those. Tara 11:36 Mm-hmm. Nick did try to pander to you, Dave, with this. Let's hear clip three. Clip 11:41 Most exciting salad you've ever had. Oh gosh. Buffalo chicken salad. Really? Because of heat. Sweet screens, yeah. Really? Yeah from Sweet Creek. That's the most exciting sell. You know, it's I like fried chicken. I like the fact that I can get the textures I want and I need the protein and it has a little bit of that heat going on in there so it against all those different like Temperatures and everything. And by the way, there's some greens in there. There's some greens in there. No mixed greens. I'm not a huge mixed greens fan, but yeah, same, same. Sarah 12:11 So why do this episode if everyone is sort of like salad fae? Dave 12:18 Yeah. Tara 12:18 Yeah. Sarah 12:19 Like, I get it, but you don't have to do the episode then. Dave 12:21 Yeah It's like uh sassy magazine giving the rap review to somebody's like, I don't like rap, but here we go Yeah. And also if your favorite salad is the one you buy, I mean, are you really immersing yourself as a chef-adjacent personality in the process if you're just buying it from sweet creens? Tara 12:41 Right. Dave 12:41 There's a lot of that in this episode. There was a few things that I was like, okay, I mean, yes, that is right. Raw onions on a salad are very good and usually overlooked, as long as you don't go overboard with them. Sarah 12:51 Mm-hmm. Dave 12:52 I like to put both raw and pickled onions on my salad. And let me tell you, my fart stack Tara 12:58 Yes. I would love to know why red onion always has to enter the space. Cause I they it was in all three of the salads that they taste tested and I fucking hate it. I would never choose to put that in a salad myself. Sarah 13:08 I huh. I don't feel like there's any difference in taste, but if they are doing something visual, I suspect that that's why to Tara 13:17 Mm-hmm. Sarah 13:18 So that you can see it better, reads better on camera. Tara 13:21 Yeah. Sarah 13:22 Back in the day when um my brother and sister-in-law and I shared a domicile. Our birthdays are both in March, so we would go out for like a joint household, take each other out to dinner for your birthday place, usually at a fancy place that we wouldn't normally go. Tara 13:36 Yeah, Sarah 13:37 We went to Seuss or Lee's restaurant in the village one year and got that like signature salad that's like a foot and a half tall. It requires two people to sort of disassemble and serve it so it doesn't topple over Tower of Pisa style. Dave 13:54 Uh Tara 13:54 Mm-hmm. Sarah 13:55 And it really is delicious. Like the composition is really thoughtful. It's vegan, but they can add like a little fried chicken layer if you want, I believe. That was a pretty exciting salad. It was like appetizer and a show. Tara 14:13 Yeah, yeah Sarah 14:13 Get on Sucer Lee's level. That's all I'm saying. Dave 14:17 Oh, I I I'm sorry, I thought salads could not be exciting, and now I'm hearing there was an exciting salad in your life. Sarah 14:24 Uh, salads after that salad cannot be exciting unless there's a bomb Tara 14:28 Uh all right, so the first salad they taste test is the ultimate wedge salad. It's like half a head of iceberg lettuce cut into thirds with bacon, red onion, and roquefort. Obviously neither of you is gonna do bacon, but would you choose this salad if it was with fake bacon? Dave First. Dave 14:44 Alright, well first of all, the wedge salad is the second greatest trick the devil ever played on humanity Sarah 14:50 Yeah, I I know Dave 14:51 What's the laziest salad we could do at this restaurant to get this shit out of the door quick? I know we'll just cut the lettuce into a giant chunk and let them deal with it Sarah 14:56 mm Tara 14:59 Mm-hmm. Dave 15:00 Wedge salad is just like the wrong form for me. I just don't like it. And plus like if it's iceberg lettuce, the closer you get to the core, the more inedible it is as it turns into that weird yellowy white whatever. Tara 15:09 That's true. Mm-hmm. Dave 15:13 So just like stem to stern. Sarah 15:14 All ice, no burg. Dave 15:16 Yeah. Tara 15:16 Yeah Sarah 15:16 Yep. Dave 15:17 So stem to stern, no thanks, Sarah. Sarah 15:19 Yeah, that's not going to be my choice here. Dave 15:20 Yep. Tara 15:21 Mm-hmm. Same. I I don't really love any of the ingredients other than bacon, and I agree it is very unwieldy. The thing about living in New York is it is so easy to get a decent chopped salad like anywhere in a three-block radius of where you're standing any given time. Dave 15:33 Mm-hmm. Tara 15:37 So that really spoiled me for non-chopped salads, but I know Dave thinks a chopped salad is for babies. Sarah 15:41 Yeah. Well, then I then I am a baby because oh my god, like if I need a knife for this, also pit your olives. Tara 15:46 No, same Sarah 15:52 I am not a crackpot. Dave 15:53 Well by pit you mean throw into the pit, yes. Sarah 15:54 Something Greek Dave 15:58 My deal with chopped salad is that you never get a choice of what you taste. Tara 16:03 Mm-hmm. Dave 16:03 You know, every bite is the same and I realize that's why I think it's for babies. Tara 16:06 Or everybody's different. Dave 16:08 What? Tara 16:09 Everybody's different. Cause it's different stuff. It's so small. It's a different combination depending on how big your forkful is. Alright, moving on. Dave 16:17 Yep Tara 16:17 Next is a traditional Greek or village salad, aka Horiatiki. This is your classic cucumber, tomato, red onion, calamata, olive, feta cheese, which in this case is on top in giant wedges. Lon and Brian have a semantic argument about this salad we can get into in a second, but first I will say in theory I approve this form factor for cheese because it's a lot, but I think if you're getting a salad platter like we see in the episode and everyone just has to like break off a chunk from the cheese triangle, you're gonna be in, I think you should leave loaded nacho chip territory because everyone's gonna be like, Oh, they got more cheese than me. Dave 16:53 Yeah The Greek salad has the problem of olives again for me. Tara 17:00 Yes. Dave 17:01 And I don't usually have Greek salad anywhere because I don't want to be the person who's like You know what makes a Greek salad really taste like a Greek salad? One of the two things is olives, the other one is feta cheese, and I'm gonna be like, I want my Greek salad without the Greek stuff, please. Tara 17:11 Yes. Mm-hmm. But you can make that, you have made that at home with minus olives. Dave 17:18 Uh kinda. Tara 17:19 Have you not Dave 17:20 But I would say if that form factor appeals to you, what you want to do is sidestep to Fatouche. Tara 17:26 Yeah, I agree. Dave 17:27 Which is sort of like the Middle Eastern version of that. It has like pita chips in it. Tara 17:32 Mm-hmm. Dave 17:33 And I don't think it has cheese by default, but if you got some of that grilling cheese, what was it called? Uh Humuli. Tara 17:37 Hello, me. Sarah 17:38 Halloumi. Dave 17:38 Humuli? Yeah. Stick that in there. I think it would be delicious. So that's my recommendation. Sarah 17:43 Halloumi goes in any salad so well. Dave 17:45 Yeah. Sarah 17:46 I live down the street from Tannerine and they have a uh watermelon and halloomy salad that sounds like people are like, are you sure? And then they can't stop eating it, including my husband who is like, a fruit or vegetable? Hell no. And he loves it. There's also cucumber slices that have been not pickled quite, but just sort of like marinated in this dill. Dave 18:08 Yep. Sarah 18:09 Zatar situation that oh my god. Dave 18:11 Hmm, yeah. Tara 18:12 Mm-hmm. Sarah 18:12 Guys, I gotta go. Dave 18:13 Yeah, me too. Sarah 18:14 I'll be right back. Dave 18:14 That sounds good. Get me one. Sarah 18:15 Tannerine is a block away Dave 18:16 Yeah. Tara 18:17 Here's where Lon and Brian get into a fight, clip four. Clip 18:21 The tomatoes were salted ahead of time so all the excess water comes out so the dressing isn't diluted when it hits the plate. There's no dressing. What do you mean? What's the whole point of this salad? It's tossed with like some vinegar. That's dressed. Stop the dressing? I've dressed my vegetables. Isn't dressing emulsified? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. Well, I just feel like um Tara 18:42 Yes Clip 18:44 I think if you're not if you're adding all of the ingredients that would go to into a dressing separately, like if they're going in one at a time, it's not a dressing. I disagree. I think the salad is dressed. Well it's but no, I don't disagree that it's I uh you're right, it's dressed, but I don't think it's dressed with the dressing. I d think it's dressed with vinegar and olive oil. I'm still gonna disagree. No, so imagine this. Yeah. Parmesan cheese, salt, pepper, lemon juice, and olive oil. Lemon and olive oil is addressing olive oil. No, it's because you didn't combine them separately first. Yeah. They still are addressing just because All of these dressings that we buy, they're all combined. Like when you think about a vinaigrette, combined. I feel like it's just combined in a different vessel. It happens to be combined with the other ingredients so it still constitute a dressing. So you're thinking like shaken and stirred kind of makes a dressing? No, he's thinking as long as it's in there it's a dressing. Yes yeah that's a good idea. Dump it Sarah 19:43 Yeah. Oh my god. The word is deconstructed. Someone find it and get out of this conversation. Tara 19:51 Yeah. Sarah 19:51 We've been here for a week. Tara 19:52 You're saying the same thing Dave 19:54 Yeah. Tara 19:54 But also I do think he's kinda wrong. Sarah 19:55 Yeah. Tara 19:57 Like if it's just like the pieces add up to dressing, that's not the same as dressing. Dave 20:01 Yeah. Tara 20:02 Like I I think she is she's closer. Dave 20:04 I think what they're trying to say is dressing is a sort of considered concept. And that if you consider a dressing as a combination of things that'll get you closer to the spirit of dressing, then here are two things that go on top of your salad. Sarah 20:20 Also everyone despairing over the basic nature of tomatoes, tomatoing, uh I just really makes me tired. Like Tomatoes are like the earth. They're like two-thirds water. Please accept this and stop sort of like tomatoes always ruin everything except when they're essential. Please stop. That's it's not editorial. Dave 20:38 Yeah, you should look into sun-dried tomatoes. Well, I mean if you don't want the water, I'm saying we have a product. Tara 20:44 Mm-hmm. Sarah 20:45 Yeah. Tara 20:46 Finally, this is the third salad, clip five Clip 20:49 It's called Nom Sakmyan and it's a shredded chicken salad with a boatload of herbs, shredded cabbage, some red onion. What I love about it is the dressing is fish sauce, Thai chilies, garlic, and sugar. No oil. Real no real acidity here Tara 21:06 The subtitles on this are a mess. They do not get close. Sarah 21:10 Yeah, they just gave up. Tara 21:12 They did. Sarah 21:12 Yep Dave 21:13 Piece and carrots, peace and carrots. Tara 21:13 Again, neither of you is gonna be here for the chicken or the fish sauce, but otherwise, how does this one look and sound to you, Sarah? Sarah 21:20 I am absolutely there for the fish sauce, and if they were able to substitute with a white fish or even a like an oily fish, like a bluefish that's a little stronger, they could use that. They could Cut up some shrimp. I'm a little more portable in this regard than Dave, but a salad like this, which actually reads to me more like a Tara 21:36 Yeah Sarah 21:41 burrito bowl without or without the rice, kind of. Like I love that, that it's like a one-pot sort of dish that does bring me back to the Sucer Lee Tower of Green Power, because there wasn't that much green in it, and there were a lot of different sort of umami flavors happening in it. If they could find a way to do something with the tofu or seitan or again a fish that's gonna be able to hold its own with a lot of strong Asian spices, I would be into it. Like even with the chicken, I was like, I could hack this. for a for a non-walked on land outcome. Tara 22:20 Right. Sarah 22:20 That sounded delicious to me. Dave? Dave 22:22 Yeah, it's fine. You just have to make a lot of substitutions to get into the spirit of it and it's a lot of work, so pass. Tara 22:27 Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. Sarah 22:30 Yeah. Tara 22:30 T not to take it back to an earlier dispute on this podcast, but when I see cabbage, I think slaw and this looked like a slaw to me when they showed it from above, but this was the one that looked the best for me even though I would never go out of my way to eat cabbage personally. Sarah 22:38 Mm-hmm. Dave 22:44 Well, I mean the way she also describes it with a sugary dressing kind of makes me feel like but this would be for me sort of in the same general category as like a papaya salad, you know, which is great. Tara 22:56 Yeah, yeah, mm-hmm, mm-hmm Dave 22:58 I love them, but you know, it's like a sweet sort of thing. Sarah 23:01 Well, yeah, and that's one of the things that like in American Thai food at least or like Vietnamese food too, sometimes there are sometimes these like competing for me flavors that are like, well here we are with pineapple and a pizza. Like I get what they're trying to do, but something here, like either mint or peanut, but if Tara 23:23 Hmm. Sarah 23:23 If it's both then I have to order something else, I can't I can't do that. Tara 23:26 Right. Sarah 23:27 So Tara 23:28 So they're winding up when they get into grain salads. No thank you for me. And then dumpling salad, which I'm listening. And when they started talking about that, it reminded me of the time, Dave, you made a ravioli salad years ago and then never again. Sarah 23:35 Mm-hmm. Tara 23:41 And I still think about it, where it was basically just like cold ravioli in probably oil and vinegar, I assume, maybe not even oil. Dave 23:49 Yeah. Tara 23:49 And then with like diced different peppers and cheese and onion, probably. Dave 23:54 Yeah. Sarah 23:55 Yeah, I've done that. Dave 23:56 It's just a bunch of cubed things. Tara 23:56 Ugh, it was good. Mm-hmm. Dave 23:59 I make it make that again for you, Sweetie Pie. Tara 24:01 Please do, cause it was good. Dave 24:02 Alright. Tara 24:03 Finally, we arrive at what I think Wendy meant by the moment that made her think of us clip six. Clip 24:10 Ooh, let's play Mary Date Kill. Can we do that? Date. I thought it was something else. Well it is, but it's Mary Mary Date Kill. Sarah 24:18 Yes, Nick Clip 24:21 Wait. D are we marrying With the idea that we will get divorced eventually. He's trying to keep his options open. I'm sure. But then you have to tell us what salad you're getting remarried to. Brian, I'm gonna save you from answering. Thank you so much for joining us on our salad journey. Join us next time. I'm gonna marry this one. I'm gonna Date the um Horatiki. Okay. Kill the wedge. And you're gonna divorce this one and get remarried to a Caesar? Probably. Probably eventually. Yeah. 20 years? Yeah. Okay. Dave 24:58 Yeah, you know who likes that pivot? Sarah D Bunting, the one that doesn't follow rules for These games. Oh, a fourth option, sure, says Sarah. Let's go for that one. Sarah 25:08 You're gonna kill all the salad, so I don't know. Why why am I the rogue here? Tara 25:13 Yeah Dave 25:14 Who never wants to hear the two words salad journey again in their lives? Cause my hands up. Sarah 25:21 Mm-hmm. Tara 25:21 Same. Dave 25:21 Fucking Hell. Tara 25:22 Yeah. I mean I get where she's going, but I also was like, oh god, is that what we sound like? Dave 25:27 That was my first thought. Tara 25:28 I hope not. Dave 25:28 Uh-oh. Tara 25:30 We can wrap up after this, but what is each of your answers to the titular question of what makes a salad exciting? I will go first. It is the stuff that is l not good for you, meaning cheese, bacon, chicken, hard-boiled egg, cold pasta. There are also ingredients I cannot be bothered to chop at home, but that I like when they're in the buffet at soup plantation, like Julian radish or celery. And um I also have peas there, which I could do at home and probably should. Sarah. Sarah 25:59 Yeah, other items that sort of make the medicine go down, so cheese, onions, pickles, chickpeas, any like large dollop of creamy dressing, usually containing cheese. Tara 26:11 Mm-hmm. Sarah 26:13 Mostly what makes a salad uninviting is all the prep. So any salad I didn't have to make and could just sort of order off a menu of check boxes is uh a little more enticing or exciting, but yeah, I mean cheese, bottom line Tara 26:26 Yeah. Dave Dave 26:30 Two things that make a salad exciting. One, as you're eating the salad, your home or cafe is invaded by ninjas. Sarah 26:38 Mm-hmm. Yep. Tara 26:39 Uh huh, yep Dave 26:40 Yeah. And uh two is a grenade inside of it By the way, uh that show may be the angriest I might have been. Tara 26:55 You Dave really was in a bad mood for about an hour after you watched it. Sarah 26:58 Over Salad Dave 27:01 Actually the second thing that makes it exciting really is discovering new levels of stink that I can make. A couple hours later. Cause let me tell ya, it's fucking rank. Too much I got one in the chamber right now. Tara 27:24 God, don't. Dave 27:24 Can't I time it? Tara 27:26 No, don't Sarah 27:26 Throw some creamed onions on that wedge salad. Let's go. And Dave died. Dave go boom. Dave's dead. Tara 27:44 You're the one who's gonna have to edit this. Dave 27:46 Nope. Nothing Yeah, this is Ask E H G Sarah 27:59 Oh, my God Tara 28:04 My God. Dave 28:04 Before we get into your questions, we must answer the ask. No, we must judge the ask, Ask EHG question from last week. It came from Jovial Gent. What TV soundtrack would make good restaurant background music? And I'm just gonna go straight to the one that played to the judge. It wasn't even close. Bizarr Laura, the Sanford and Sun theme. But with made-up lyrics about whatever food you're eating. Eating chicken, eating chicken pot pie, sure is tasty, eating chicken pot pie. So there's your winner. Bizar Laura, thank you very much. Hit me up on Discord or you can email me for your stickers. All right, let's get into your questions for us this week. First one from Seth. Seth wants to know, where would you like to see Reacher go next season? Space? Underwater or another dimension? What will he investigate and who is he punching? Darn. Tara 28:59 Well he has to go somewhere that Toronto can credibly pass for, so I would say let's plop him down on the set of Star Trek Strange New Worlds, which already has a set there. And have him shoot his own space show between their shots. Like sometimes you can sort of see him in the background on Strange New Worlds, like just waiting for his turn. Dave 29:18 Yeah. Tara 29:18 And let's see him punch a damn gorn. Sarah Sarah 29:23 This wasn't an option technically, but I am rationalizing it because time is a dimension. I'm going to send Reacher Back in time to post-war Los Angeles to try to solve the Black Dahlia murder, and he's gonna be punching LAPD because someone always should be. Dave. Dave 29:39 I'm gonna put Reacher in Hawaii because I'm really curious if Reacher gonna have what we call Hawaii Dave mode. Which is Dave's super friendly when he goes to Hawaii for some reason and he can't stop being nice. So if Reacher was that, what would happen to Reacher? I think it would be an interesting exercise. Dix and chants. This season of Reacher has become Look Who's Talking Now. Who do you cast as the voice of Reacher's Kitten? Sarah. Sarah 30:04 Sabrina Carpenter, Dave. Dave 30:07 Fran Dresher Tar. Tara 30:09 Kate Mikuchi. Dave 30:11 Oh wow Sarah 30:12 These are all good. Dave 30:13 Dan Cassino strap in, suppose lanterns is a hit, which of the following terrible slash ridiculous Green Lanterns should be featured next season? One, chip, that's without an eye, little we got a little glottal stop there. The squirrel who's a green lantern, G'Nort, G'Nort, as it's spelled, the incompetent anthropomorphic dog comic relief Green Lantern Liesel Pond, the sentient smallpox virus, who is a Green Lantern. Kyle Rayner, a human Green Lantern, eventually channels all the powers of colors combined, and dispatches enemies with the quote, White Power And then Eric added, number five, Rot Lop Fan, a being whose species evolved without visual sense organs, who goes by F sharp bell. So those are your five choices. So here's my here's my thinking. So we're gotta go with see how Americans like their superheroes that are both, all the colors of the rainbow, and white supremacist. I think it's gonna heal the nation's soul. Tara 31:15 I could not believe all of these are real, obviously, especially the white power guy, but uh that said the smallpox virus, cause Kate Mikucci can voice that character too. Sarah. Sarah 31:25 Agree, and while we're up, yeah, Sabrina Carpenter can do that. Dave 31:30 Drydendon has questions for each of us individually. Tara, you're up first. Tara! If you are asked to picture the friends opening credits, which actions are each of the six actors doing? For example, Drydendon always sees Monica putting her back in the fridge at the tropical Christmas party. So in your mind When you think of it, what's the canonical emotions for each character? Tara 31:51 Okay, Rachel doing a good for me gesture thinking she got a central perk order right early in her tenure there when she did not. From Monica, it's her reaction to Chandler walking in with a mustache from the Richard era in season two, where she just sort of sadly is like, uh Phoebe flipping her ponytail off of her face while lying on the floor drinking. Joey presenting himself in all of Chandler's clothes, of course. Chandler waking up from a nap because Joey is drilling through the wall right next to his head and Ross playing his bad keyboard music. Dave 32:26 Good answer. All right, Sarah, here's your question from Drydendon. What have been some of your best moments owning your bookstore Sarah 32:32 Oh well, thank you for asking. First of all, there is a guy in the genre, I'm not gonna say his name, but he's sort of this legal/slash authorial Zelig figure in major cases in the latter half of the 20th century. He first shows up in Mailer's Executioner song in the culture, I would say. Anyway, um he nearly 90 years old Is alive and bought a book for me a few months ago, not one of his own books. I have had authors buy their own books for me in the past But that was kind of a kick. Going on a book buying day out of town is fun, just being in someone else's house and seeing how they're valuing true crime, not just the literal pricing, but like where it is in the layout esteem. of another generalist chop. I love finding so-called freebies in books and seeing what people used as bookmarks, like Where you know, what flight was this used to pass the time on? What was being eaten for lunch when you couldn't put the book down? Was this taken to the beach or the pool? Can I tell? But mostly it's just being in my basement lair researching authors who were once leading figures in the genre and now nobody really remembers them. It's Kind of a shame, but also kind of fun because uh Egghead loves her bookie wooks. Uh the smellier the better Dave 33:52 Alright, and Drydendon's question for me is Dave, how many dogs is too many dogs? We for a long time when we had Gordon, the first dog, he was the only dog. And then we got Murray, and even though Gordon was a stick in the mud, sometimes they would play together. And I thought, I think maybe two dogs is the minimum we should have in a house, generally speaking. But then sometimes two dogs is too much. And usually that's when you have to walk them individually at night because Sandy is a terrible leashed dog creature. Tara 34:20 Yes. Dave 34:21 She is not happy on the leash when other dogs are living within a mile radius. Otherwise, really great with dogs. She's great at the daycare and everything. Tara 34:30 Love staycare. Dave 34:30 It's just on the leash. Yeah. Usually I'm gonna say too many dogs would be something approaching the number four, probably, but usually I'm gonna say two is okay, but not always. Johnny essay, Netflix recently announced a reality show called The Leftovers that appears to be entirely unrelated to the acclaimed HBO drama. Pitch a reality show that's actually based on the HBO drama, Tara. Tara 34:56 Oh, whoops. I missed that part of it. Because my answer is A competition show where you have to impress Michelin chefs with dishes made from leftovers. So how you make it actually based on the HBO drama is that if your dish is not chosen, you poof away and no one ever sees you again. Sarah 35:12 Or you have to use two percent milk. Tara 35:14 Mm-hmm, Sarah. Sarah 35:15 I don't know how you do this as a competition show. Actually, I think it has to be like longitudinal documentary reality, some kind of from or the prisoner but in real life scenario where an entire small town agrees to participate. And the show was just a running account of the townsfolk who weren't yeeted into whatever dimension, which is actually a nearby garden Hilton. They are provided for. Parents of children are not separated. They're just trying to figure out what happened to the two percent who were. And I'm not saying I wouldn't watch this, but I just don't know how you do it logistically from a production standpoint or for how long I don't know how you create a competitive element. Push Nevada tried. That didn't go well. So that's that's my idea. I don't think it's possible. Dave. Dave 36:02 Uh skilled ninjas silently take your baby from your back seat when you're not looking and you must find them. Sarah 36:09 Jesus, Dave 36:10 Jovial Gent, what 80s sitcom star do you want to see lay down a cover of an 80s song? Tara 36:10 Well Dave 36:16 Sarah Sarah 36:17 John Ratzenberger's putting on the Ritz. Now it's putting on the Ratz and Burger. Dave. Dave 36:24 BB New Earth covering White Snakes Here I Go Again. Sarah 36:28 Yes, winner. Dave 36:28 Gave myself a little boner just thinking about that one. Sarah 36:31 Mm-hmm. Dave 36:32 Try. Tara 36:33 You may be right, Billy Joel's, you may be right by Jerry Burns of Dear John Fame. Dave 36:38 Nice. Kara has a question for us. Please pick a John Williams movie soundtrack or a Moraconi soundtrack to play as your neighborhood's ice cream truck music. The ice cream truck coming, what's it playing? I think if y it actually played the theme from the mission, that would be really funny. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. But what I think would be even funnier Clip 37:20 Lucia come si vede. Tara 37:31 Uh it's gonna be Raiders of the Last Arc by John Williams and also thank you for rubbing it in that we don't have a neighborhood ice cream truck and that's the ice cream truck communities Big mistake. Huge, because I would be getting it, I'm gonna say, every other time. Dave 37:46 Why aren't there more ice cream trucks in Austin? It's perpetually two thousand degrees outside. Tara 37:51 Yes. Sarah 37:51 Mm-hmm Tara 37:52 Great question Dave 37:52 It yeah. Sir Sarah 37:54 Well, thanks to the dingus in my neighborhood who already made the Imperial March from Star Wars his carhorn to go with this tricked-out Hyundai Iroll. Dave 38:05 Wow. Tara 38:06 Are you sure this person is not a Sith Lord? Sarah 38:09 No, actually I'm not. Tara 38:09 Great. Well, look into that. Go on Dave 38:12 Yeah, look into it. Sarah 38:13 Yeah, I just I don't think so. Like the purple neon undercarriage, that's not a scythe thing. Dave 38:18 Look 'em up on the gram Tara 38:21 Anyway, go on. Dave 38:23 Sith Sith dot Sarah's neighborhood. Okay, go ahead. Sarah 38:26 Yeah. I'm sure I'm sure I'll find it in no time. I think actually the Superman theme would match the um reaction to the arrival of the ice cream truck, at least on my block, so let's go with that. Dave 38:34 Hm, yeah Rightwood, what would you call the class of show that was popular or well regarded in its time and and doesn't quite not exist anymore, but you would be surprised to hear that someone was currently watching it? Examples they provide hung or unreal So what would you uh classify that as Tara? Tara 38:56 I first started out with It's Something From Showtime because those shows like Sarah 39:00 Mm Dave 39:00 Yeah. Tara 39:01 They go on forever and then they just sink into the merc and are never seen again. Sarah 39:05 Yeah Dave 39:06 Yeah. Tara 39:06 And my answer is, for personal reasons, the United States of Terra. Dave. Dave 39:11 Uh I'm gonna go with a really shitty answer here, and because when I think about it, most shows you know like given how many shows actually get pumped out every month. Tara 39:17 Ajá, yeah, mhm Dave 39:23 Sarah? Sarah 39:25 This was a fun question. I immediately listed a bunch of shows I thought qualified and then was like, oh yeah, like Tara said, they are pretty much all on Showtime or were on FX. But what do you exactly call it? Like B list Empire? Memory Hole of Fornication was one I came up with that I think is bad shows of a certain age? Dave 39:41 Yeah Sarah 39:48 Like People really liked him. Dave 39:49 Yeah. Sarah 39:50 People watched the whole run, but like, would anyone go back to them if they hadn't seen weeds or damages? Dave 39:55 Yeah. Oh, I know what it is. Sarah 39:59 I don't think so. Dave 40:00 Wedge Salad chose. Tara 40:03 Speaking of which, you gotta close the food portal. Sarah 40:03 Hmm. Dave 40:05 No, I don't. Sarah 40:06 Yes, you do. Tara 40:06 Oh no, you don't! Dave 40:06 No, I don't. Sarah 40:07 Oh no, you you can't yet, that's right. Tara 40:08 You're right. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Dave 40:09 Yeah, that's right. Yeah, apology accepted. Sarah 40:10 Don't worry, I have that note coming up. Tara 40:11 Sorry. Dave 40:11 All right. Here's here comes your Ask EHG question to answer. It comes from me. I want to know: what are your pointless claims to fame? So go to our Discord, Ask Ask EHG channel, put your answer there, or go to the episode page on our site. And there is a little box there. You can send your answer in. All right. That's it for us. Thank you. Bye. For now, but wait, we're back. Here we go. What's happening? What's happening? It is time for the Extra Hot Great tiny cannon presenting this week is a tiny Sarah D Bunting. Sarah 40:50 Oh, hello! You may not remember the order of the elements in the periodic table. You may not remember how to make a mash cootie catcher or your sixth grade locker combo or whether your parents let you stay up to find out who did shoot JR eight months after that cliffhanger But if you are a Gen X English speaker, you fucking ain't know what's in a McDonald's Big Mac. Why is that? Get ready for an afternoon school bus flashback. Clip one Clip 41:21 McDonald's Big Mac. It's more than just another hamburger. There are two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, and onions on a sesame seed bun. Seven great ingredients working together to make one great taste. Two all beef patties, special sauce, cheese, lettuce, pickles, onions, and a sesame seed bun. Get the idea? Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, and a sesame seed bun. It's your McDonald's big Mac. You've got to taste it to believe it. You know what I mean? Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles on your dance as we see fun. Two all beef patties Let me say a few worries about McDonald's Big Mac. It's a it's it's two all beef paddy, special sauce, patties, cheese, pickles, onions, and a sesame seed bug. Too all. Well what what was that word again? Two old beef paddy special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, and a sesame seed bug. Lettuce cheese cheese pickles onions, lettuce Uh Gilma- Oh, what am I saying? You deserve a break today at McDonald's. Where your dollar gets a break every day. Sarah 42:20 I did not realize that this legendary jingle, paired here with another iconic McDonald's tag, You Deserve a Break Today. was written by hamburger creator Keith Reinhard of DDB Worldwide, whose team also authored State Farms Like a Good Neighbor jingle. I didn't know Mark Vieja composed the tune and apparently is singing in the original ad. I did not know Gordon Jump was in the shteze, and I definitely did not know. that the ad is as old as our esteemed baby co-host Tara and only ran until nineteen seventy six because in the eighties we sang this shit daily. We believed the promotion that granted a free Big Mac to a patron who could sing the jingle in four seconds or under was still active. And back then, as kids, we didn't understand the fundamentally mercenary nature of catchy jingles. We didn't know about food deserts. We didn't actually care whether the special sauce was just Thousand Island dressing Sidebar, it isn't. There's no tomato product in it, apparently. Dave 43:21 Oh Sarah 43:22 Second sidebar, please don't let me forget that we have to reclose the Extra Extra Hot Great food portal after this. Thanks. Bye All we knew was the jingle. Everyone knows this jingle. So do Sesame Seed Buntsy a favor and put this one on the menu in the Extra Extra Hot Great tiny commercial jingle cannon. Dave 43:44 Alright, thank you Sarah. And yes, sense memory unlocked right away. Not that I forgot this jingle existed, but I forgot the exact sort of feel of it in the moment, you know, that sort of old scratchiness and a little more country than I remember, but I'm sure there were uh multiple versions. Sarah 43:59 Yeah, same Dave 44:02 From a marketing perspective, two great things that this commercial does as shareholders in the process. Number one is they manage to repeat the theme seven times during the commercials, so you got four more than you're supposed to. Say it three times. People will start remembering it and they just go on and on. And then the last quarter of it with the kid who can't quite make it happen. Tara 44:24 Is that Dave 44:25 So every child, every precocious child with an earshot of the TV will then demonstrate to you how they can do it right. Mom, mom, look at me. I know the capitalist slogan So I think not only is it a very memorable commercial that speaks to childhood nostalgia, it's also pretty insidious in a like marketing way. Tara 44:48 Mm-hmm. The proof of how part of my DNA this jingle is, is that when Dave 44:55 Wait, literally your DNA is probably ten percent McDonald's by now. Tara 44:59 It is, but can I say I've never had a Big Mac and I never will because I don't like lettuce on a sandwich, as you know. Dave 45:04 Two too much bread. Tara 45:06 The the way you can tell how I know this Jingle on a like completely unconscious level is that when the guy is narrating it at the beginning, this haircut, he inverts cheese and Sarah 45:19 He reverses. Tara 45:21 He reverses cheese and lettuce and I'm like, what the Fuck? Like this is like that moment in lanterns where they prove the guy's an alien. Sarah 45:24 Yeah Dave 45:28 Did you just say wrapped up like a douche in the night Tara 45:31 Yes. I I've never seen this commercial before. I mean I've heard the jingle obviously a million times, but I and and I had never seen the old box, seeing it unfold like that instead of the clamshell. Sarah 45:41 Oh my God. Tara 45:42 It was like, what an artifact. Dave 45:42 Oh Sarah 45:43 Yeah. Dave 45:44 You know what I miss from those days, and I wish that they would bring back maybe yo my marketing days are long behind me. Sarah 45:44 Mm-hmm Dave 45:50 I used to be in this world. But honestly, do you remember when the Simpsons movie did the quickie marts? Tara 45:54 Yes. Dave 45:55 Like they turn 7 Eleven's signage into Quickie Mart. Tara 45:57 Yes Dave 45:58 They should take a few McDonald's here and there and 1970s retroise them so they have those Brown and yellow menus and all that kind of stuff again. Tara 46:04 Mm-hmm. Sarah 46:05 mm Dave 46:05 the Brown uniforms of the polyester, please don't let that flame anywhere near me. Uniforms. Tara 46:11 Yep. Dave 46:11 Uh I'd go just for the Hell of it. Tara 46:13 Yeah. Dave 46:14 Yep. Tara 46:14 I enjoyed the stressed out child as well. Dave 46:17 Yeah. Tara 46:18 That was amusing to me. Dave 46:18 Oh God, so much is writing on this. Sarah 46:21 I know. Give me a scotch. Dave 46:24 Hobbit is closed to you Tara 46:27 Of all of the things that McDonald's has contributed to culture, and you know, don't get me started, because I do go there at least, I'm gonna say, once every two weeks, if not more. Dave 46:39 Hmm. Tara 46:39 Uh yeah, this is undeniable to me. Dave 46:42 Alright, very good. Let's put this to the official vote. I'm gonna say yes. Tara, what about you? Tara 46:47 Yes, of course Dave 46:48 Alright, so Big Mac Jingle from McDonald's in 1974. You are hereby inducted into the Extra Hot Great tiny commercial jingle cannon. Clip 46:59 Americans love a winner Sarah 47:01 Oh gotta close the food portal. Clip 47:01 Yup And we'll not tolerate a loser. Nope Dave 47:06 Yes. No, not yet All right, let's let's continue the mystery, the food portal, as we talk about not quite winners and losers of the week. Sarah 47:12 Okay. Dave 47:19 I will go first by not quite winner, is 30 Rock Jokes in 2026. Here is a line that we recently discovered from Variety. The agent who told Alison Janney that due to her height she can only play aliens lesbians. Great. Sarah 47:36 And lesbian aliens Dave 47:39 Loser Demon Hunters, both kinds, as Christian metal band Demon Hunter claims that confused fans of K-pop demon hunters were buying tickets to their metal band shows, which is kind of funny to me. I just want to read this excerpt from the story because it made me laugh in context Formed in 2000, Demon Hunter has released 13 albums to date, featuring songs such as My Throat is an Open Grave, Dead Flowers, and Snap Your Fingers, Snap Your Neck. Tara 48:06 Yeah. Dave 48:10 Popular songs from K-Pot Demon Hunters include Golden, Takedown, and Soda Pop. Fantastic. I hope Demon Hunter gets all the money that is coming to them for that, which is probably zero dollars. Sure. Sarah 48:25 My not quite winners are two directors who turned down Harry Potter offers Ali Pankyu of Black Mirror publicly announced on her Insta that she turned down an offer to direct on the Harry Potter series and urged artists to quote say no to funding transphobia. And director Kate Heron of Loki commented that they asked her twice and she'd explained why her answer would never change from a no. Maybe you need to have some of your um fellow artists tattoo that information on their faces 'cause Dave 48:57 Yeah. Have they announced directors at all? Tara 48:59 Not yet, that I know of, not that I've seen. Dave 49:00 Yeah. Sarah 49:01 And the directors better hope they don't because boo. Tara 49:05 Yeah, I mean again insert James A. Sarah 49:06 Um Tara 49:08 Castor Rant where it's like, I just want to get away with it. Like I'm sure they all do, directors as well as stars. Sarah 49:14 Yeah, and there's literally a thousand people associated with this fucking goofy project now, so I guess they probably will. Not quite loser is Doctor Who, as uh past series writer Mark Gaddis says that he believes the show's return, quote, quietly won't happen. I guess that they're just gonna like wait for people to forget about the franchise. Dave 49:39 Yeah, put a question Mark at the end of that. Sarah 49:40 Like good luck. Dave 49:41 For real. Can I just say while we're on the Doctor Who subject that Sarah 49:44 Good luck. Dave 49:47 Our number one Doctor Who fan listener, Dr. Calhoun, finally listened to Doctor How Many quiz from last week, and he was appalled. Tara 49:53 Mm-hmm, ajá Sarah 49:53 Mm-hmm. Dave 49:54 So good job, everybody. Add our knowledge, lack thereof. Sarah 49:58 Oh yeah, well Tara 49:59 I don't know why he was surprised if he was. Dave 50:01 I don't think he was. He was just appalled. Tara 50:03 Well. Dave 50:03 Yeah. I think he knew what was coming at him. Tara 50:06 Uh-huh. Sarah 50:07 Oh, speaking of appalling, I purchased Tara's uh winnings today, and uh I think she will be appalled by then. Dave 50:14 Great. All right, Tara, not quite winner. Tara 50:16 My not quite winner is Riley. Keough headlighting a new casino drama that's in the works at HBO. I love this idea. This is a very fruitful place setting for storytelling. Sarah 50:28 Mm-hmm. Tara 50:28 I think that'll be really interesting to watch no matter what they do with it. Dave 50:33 I want them to in each episode have just a blinking you miss it reference to other shows in Las Vegas like CSI, Vegas, or movies like Casino or whatever. Tara 50:40 Mm-hmm, yes, mm hmm Dave 50:43 Get that yes-no sign from Casino in the background. Sarah 50:45 Viva Laughlin? Tara 50:45 Yes. Dave 50:46 Yep, here we go. Sarah 50:46 Who doesn't want a reference to that? Tara 50:46 Yes. I'll also just tell our listeners who haven't done so yet, and even if they had, watch Heart 8. Speaking of uh excellent art set in a casino, it is on MGM+ L O L. Dave 50:59 With a library cop, right? Tara 51:01 Yes, yes, Philip Baker Hall. Dave 51:02 Thank you. Tara 51:03 May he rest, we miss him. Dave 51:03 Mm-hmm. Yep. Tara 51:04 And um it is also on Philo Dave 51:07 That's not real. Tara 51:08 It's re it's real. Dave 51:09 Oh, as in Farnsworth? Tara 51:10 It's the I think that's what it's named for. Dave 51:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Tara 51:13 I guess it's Philo, yes. Dave 51:14 Yeah. Tara 51:14 Good point. Um that is a free that's I think it's Sarah 51:16 Marvel Dave 51:17 It could be the pastry. Do you think Philo ever enjoyed Philo? Tara 51:21 Probably. Dave 51:21 Yeah, good for him. Tara 51:23 My not quite loser of the week. Sarah 51:25 Oh my God. Dave 51:25 It's really got off the rails. Tara 51:27 Okay. It's Cindy Crawford, and here's why. Her daughter, Kaya Gerber, she's been on the Shards Press Tour, as one does, and part of that was going on a podcast junk it and one of the things that she one of the stories she told was that when she went on to the set of American horror story Her mother, Crawford, made Gerber carry holy water onto the set because Crawford was worried that Gerber would get possessed. Which she previously had been as a child. And I her listening to the clip, the hosts are like, wait, were you just like a a really unruly child? She's like, no, I was just, you know, demon possessed, you know And how did they exercise you with a didgeridoo, she said. And I don't know if that was just improv because one of the hosts that she was talking to in the moment was Australian. Dave 52:19 Yeah. Tara 52:20 But yes, this is a story she told. Is it real? Who knows? The more that I heard of it, the more I thought, like, okay, Kaya Gerber is just having fun on the Shards Press tour because earlier in it Sarah 52:28 I yeah. Tara 52:30 She uh told in someone else a story that she writes erotic fanfiction online under a pseudonym So I I just think she's, you know, Robert Pattinsoning it up, like just m telling shit and seeing how far it can go. Dave 52:42 Yeah, Sarah 52:43 All right, bless. Tara 52:45 And if so, good for her. I'm glad she's Making her own fun. It certainly makes her seem more interesting than anything she's doing in the shards where she is. Dave 52:53 And way to drag your mother into it. Tara 52:53 Not great. And way to drag your mother into it. Sarah 52:57 Maybe they had a side bet though. Maybe Sidney Crawford's like, yeah, you could throw me under the bus for this. This must be so boring. Tara 53:02 Sure, yes, yeah. Sarah 53:03 Tell him this Dave 53:05 All right guys. Well speaking about getting possessed and then uh making up stories about your performance about getting possessed, do you know what that's terrible? Hey guys thinking about dumping on your mom. Do you know what time it is? Tara 53:21 It's non regulation game time Sarah 53:22 Jesus Dave 53:23 Yes, also is extra credit. Let's not forget that. Tara 53:26 No, let's not. Dave 53:38 I just want to say before Tara starts, we will have extra credits again. I know there's been a lot of game chunks recently, but David T. Cole is having a bad week, so we had to do a light load. But thank you, Tara, and we'll get back to it. Tara 53:50 Mm-hmm. Today's non-regulation game time is called Making TV Dinners, because yes, you really can't Still close the portal. Sorry, I forgot earlier. And related to our lead topic, this is a game about TV stars who have written cookbooks. So since cookbooks tend to have very generic titles, you're almost certainly not going to get any of these off those, but we will start there. If you somehow guess the author from the title alone, you will get five points. If not, I will describe an imaginary situation that they or their best known character might be cooking for, then it's worth three points. Sarah 54:18 Oh Tara 54:27 If you still don't know, I'll tell you the title of the show they're best known for, then it's worth one. I'm blanking out the parts of book titles that are potentially part of a clue. No equalizer challenge zones or steel meals. The winner gets a gift inspired by or related to one of their correct answers. Can you both please keep scores so that you can concur with one another? Sarah 54:47 Yes. Tara 54:48 Are you ready to play Making TV Dinners? Dave 54:51 I know I am Tara 54:52 Alright, let's throw it to PICCI to see who's going first. Sarah 54:53 Yes Clip 54:57 We will start with David. Tara 54:59 Okay, David. Your cookbook title is Does This Taste Funny? Dave 55:08 Cookbook from a TV actor. Does this taste funny? I'm gonna say that is the cookbook of Dave 55:19 Rob Tara 55:22 That is not correct. This author is traveling for Better Noah District and needs to butter up a formidable opponent with some butter cookies. Dave 55:35 Oh, uh, this is Stephen Colbert Tara 55:38 This is Stephen Colbert for three points. He co-wrote this book with his wife, Evelyn McGee Colbert. Dave 55:44 And candles Tara 55:46 Yes, Sarah, your cookbook title is Food, Health, and Happiness: 115 On-Point Recipes for Great Meals and a Better Life. Sarah 55:48 Yes Sarah 56:00 On point. Ah, Michelle Visage Tara 56:06 Gail's coming over so they can discuss a few of their favorite things over dinner. Sarah 56:14 Oh, uh Oprah Winfrey. Tara 56:15 Oprah Winfey is correct for three points. Dave, blanks Dave 56:19 Mm-hmm. Tara 56:21 Big Bad Book of Barbecue, Colonel 100 Easy Recipes for Backyard Barbecue and Grilling. Dave 56:28 Can I just ask a question and apologies if you have already gone over it? Does this exclude like cooking personalities? Tara 56:36 Yes. Dave 56:36 Okay. So like no guide for Aries or whatever. Tara 56:39 No, there's no celebrity chefs. Dave 56:41 Yeah, okay. Can I have that again, please? Sarah 56:43 Yeah. Tara 56:43 Of course, blank's Big Bad Book of Barbecue Colon, 100 Easy Recipes for Backyard Barbecue and Grilling. Dave 56:50 I'm gonna go with, and I hope this is his name, Cole Hauser. Tara 56:55 At someone's name, but not the author of this book. Sarah 56:56 Someone's name Tara 56:58 This author just bought a new party tent. So his cookout is happening no matter what the weather is like, and any neighbors who aren't invited will have to gawk through the window. Dave 57:10 Huh. He just bought a new party tent, so his cookout is happening no matter what the weather is like, and any neighbors who aren't invited will have to gawk through the window. Boy, those seem like really pointed clues. Tara 57:24 They're even capitalized. Dave 57:26 Yeah, yeah. Sarah 57:26 Mm-hmm. Dave 57:27 I don't know. Dave 57:28 Jon Hamm? Tara 57:30 This person is from The Today Show Dave 57:32 Oh. Um, is this Al Roker? Tara 57:35 This is Al Roker for one point. Sarah 57:38 Uh Roker. Tara 57:39 Sarah D. Bunting. Sarah 57:41 Yes Tara 57:42 My blank cookbook, Memories and Blank Food from my Blank to Yours. Sarah 57:49 Teresa Judice Tara 57:51 Great guess, she was in the draft for this, but spoiler, she is not in the game. This author's character is celebrating a farmhouse Thanksgiving with at least a half pint of gravy. Sarah 58:06 Melissa Gilbert Tara 58:08 It's Melissa Gilbert for three points. David T. Cole. This cookbook is simply titled, I love you. Dave 58:18 This is Kristen Bell Tara 58:24 That is a good guess. She would do that shit. This author's character is throwing a party for her 1000th ocean rescue, and she plans to decorate with lots of bouncy balloons. Sarah 58:27 Yeah Dave 58:37 Oh boy. Is this Pamela Anderson? Tara 58:39 It sure is, for three points. Dave 58:40 Okay. Tara 58:42 Sarah, your next cookbook title is Extra Lean Colon, the fat-burning plan that changes the way you eat for life. Sarah 58:52 It's in really poor taste to say Jared Leto, but he does lean grit. Tara 58:58 He does lean great. Sarah 58:59 He does lean great. It's not him. It's extra lean. I don't even oh my god. Fucking, what is that guy's name? Dave 59:06 Cole Hauser. Sarah 59:07 Polly from Jersey Shore. I don't know. Tara 59:11 This author's character wants to welcome his girlfriend, or mama, as he calls her, back from caffeine pill rehab, so no Brown sodas, please. Sarah 59:22 M is this Mark Paul Gosselar? Tara 59:26 Your next clue is save by the bell, so you're on the right track. Sarah 59:30 Okay, well, I hope it's Mario Lopez Tara 59:33 It is Mario Lopez. Good for one point. Back to Dave. Dave 59:36 Yeah. Tara 59:36 Your cookbook title is Cook with Clido. C-L-Y-C-L-Y-D-E-O. Dave 59:40 Clido? Tara 59:42 Possibly Clido. Dave 59:45 Isn't that like a web like old video hosting service or something? Tara 59:51 No, no. Dave 59:52 Um let's see. This feels real B-list. Let's go with Kathy Griffith. Or Griffin, whatever her name is. All right. Tara 01:00:00 Griffin. This author's character is marking the anniversary of the wedding she ran out on, and don't worry, she's putting her famous hair in a ponytail during prep. Dave 01:00:11 Uh Jennifer Andiston? Tara 01:00:14 It's Jennifer Aniston for three points. Not B list. Sarah 01:00:17 Nice Tara 01:00:18 Clydo is apparently her dog's name. This is a cookbook for kids Dave 01:00:21 Oh. I think I think it'll be like Clipio or something like that, maybe. Tara 01:00:25 Oh, maybe. Dave 01:00:26 Yeah. Tara 01:00:26 Next question is for Sarah, and then we'll do a score break. I forgot to say there are 12 questions. Sarah, your title is In the Kitchen with Blank: a collection of blank family favorites. Dave 01:00:38 Don't you worry about blank. Let me worry about blank. Tara 01:00:40 Be weary of that blank. Sarah 01:00:42 In the kitchen with blank, a collection of blank family favorites. Uh Julie Bowen Tara 01:00:53 Your clue is all of Calabasas is turning out for one of her many famous daughters' birthdays. Tara 01:01:01 Who can remember whose? Sarah 01:01:05 Kris Jenner Tara 01:01:06 It is Kris Jenner for three points. All right. Let's get the scores. Sarah Sarah 01:01:14 Uh David T. Dave 01:01:14 Oh, Sarah, go. Sarah 01:01:17 Cole has ten, and Sarah D. Bunting also has ten Tara 01:01:19 Oh my god! Well you each have two questions left, so let's get into it. Oh Dave, do you concur? Dave 01:01:25 I concur. Tara 01:01:26 Great. Sarah 01:01:26 David T. Cole concurs. Tara 01:01:28 Nice. Dave, your next cookbook title is Don't Fill Up on the Antipasto Blank's Father-Son Cookbook Dave 01:01:38 Hmm. Is this Rob Lowe? Tara 01:01:42 No, but that's a good guess. Sarah 01:01:42 Sorry to bad guess. Tara 01:01:43 This Italian-American author's character wanted to celebrate his employer's latest promotion, or maybe she wanted to. Tara 01:01:50 It's hard to know which of them is Actually in charge Dave 01:01:55 Hmm. Uh yeah, who uh Fuck what's his name? Dave 01:02:03 I almost said Tony Danza, but that's not my answer. Dave 01:02:07 The care the person I'm thinking of is the following from Happy Days. Dave 01:02:12 They weren't all happy days. Scott Bayo. Fuck. Tara 01:02:19 The show you wanted to aim for is Who's the Boss? Dave 01:02:23 Well then why does it say actually in charge? Sarah 01:02:24 Oh, Dave 01:02:26 That's a shitty clue. Tara 01:02:27 Actually in charge, who's the boss? Dave 01:02:29 Hmm. Charles and church. Tara 01:02:31 Well, if it was Charles in charge, I would have said who's the boss so that you wouldn't get it. I didn't want to repeat it. Dave 01:02:36 All right. All right. Tara 01:02:38 It's the same way I didn't say keeping track in Sarah's Kris Jenner. Dave 01:02:39 Excuse me, I'm just going to fill out the forums for a uh official objection. Tara 01:02:45 All right. Anyway, what's your answer, Dave? Dave 01:02:49 Tony Danza. Tara 01:02:49 Tony dance is good for one point. Dave 01:02:51 I swear to God. Tara 01:02:53 Sarah Blank's kitchen colon cooking with love for family and friends Sarah 01:02:54 Yes. Dave 01:03:01 Somebody who loves. Dave 01:03:04 Has friends. Sarah 01:03:04 And has a family and friends. Dave 01:03:05 Yeah. Oh, I got it. It's Rob Lowe Sarah 01:03:10 Ed O'Neill. Stop Tara 01:03:12 Ed O'Neill. It's not Ed O'Neill. She's this is a mix of uh person and character, so she's He's throwing a party on Wisteria Lane for baseball's opening day out of respect for the player who almost shares her name. Sarah 01:03:27 Eva Longoria Tara 01:03:30 Good for three points. Both of you heading in for your final questions, Dave. Stirring up fun with food, colon, over 115 simple delicious ways to be creative in the kitchen. Dave 01:03:47 What was the first part stirring? Tara 01:03:49 Stirring up fun with food Dave 01:03:50 Stirring a fun with food. I'm gonna go with What's her name? Tiffany Ambertheson Tara 01:03:58 That is not correct. Sarah 01:03:59 Nice pull, though Tara 01:04:00 Your clue is for high school graduation, these stakes, this author's characters grilling, definitely are not rare. Dave 01:04:10 Uh can't get a spelling on stakes. Tara 01:04:13 Well, that's the question, isn't it? Dave 01:04:14 Hmm, is this God, why can't I remember anybody's name? Sarah Michelle Geller? Tara 01:04:20 It is Sarah Michelle Geller for three points. Sarah 01:04:22 Wow, nice pull. Dave 01:04:24 I was about to do Ghost Whisperer. I was like, oh, it's not her. Tara 01:04:27 Yep. She I I mean I didn't find that she wrote a cookbook, but she does seem like the type Jennifer Love Hewitt. Dave 01:04:34 Just before we get to our last question, Sarah is currently one point behind. Sarah 01:04:35 Mm-hmm. Tara 01:04:37 Yes. Oh boy, here we go. Sarah, your cookbook title is Pull Up a Chair, Colonel Recipes from My Family to Yours. So this is someone who has chairs and a family. Dave 01:04:48 Mm-hmm. Sarah 01:04:50 Mm-hmm. Tara 01:04:51 Or at least one chair. Sarah 01:04:52 And possibly pull-ups, I don't judge. Could I hear the subtitle again? Tara 01:04:58 Of course, recipes from my family to yours. Sarah 01:04:59 Sorry. Dave 01:05:03 Oh, it's Olivia Garden. Sarah 01:05:05 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Uh Robert Guillaume. Tara 01:05:08 It is not Robert Guillaume. Sarah 01:05:10 Had to get him in somewhere. Tara 01:05:11 Sure, your clue is: this author's character isn't just warming a house, she's blazing it, and avocado heads are definitely on the menu. Dave 01:05:11 Sure. Sarah 01:05:21 Oh, here's Tiffany Thesson Tara 01:05:23 Here's Tiffani Thiessen for three points. What are the final scores? Sarah 01:05:29 Well, it went back and forth a little bit, but uh I have David Ty Cole not tied with 14, and I have sixteen points. Tara 01:05:39 Sarah, you win Dave 01:05:41 Wait, didn't ask me if I concur. Sarah 01:05:42 Oh, yeah. Tara 01:05:42 Oh, do you concur? Dave 01:05:43 Yeah, I guess. Tara 01:05:46 Do you guys want to play the tiebreaker for fun? Dave 01:05:48 Sure Tara 01:05:49 Your title is In the Kitchen with Miss Piggy. What the Fuck? I forgot to blank that one. Dave 01:05:55 Good job, good job. Clip 01:06:00 Sarah! Sarah! Tara 01:06:01 Surprise! The answer is actually Kermit. No, it's not. I'm so sorry. Dave 01:06:05 I can't believe the person that just did that also came up with the who's the boss clue Well guys, that is it for another episode of Extra Extra Hot Great. I just want to point out when we first started this, we promised a looser show than the main show on Wednesdays, and here we are. Tara 01:06:21 Yeah Sarah 01:06:21 Yeah, this is loose, alright. Dave 01:06:23 We discovered the most potent ingredient in the test kitchen was RAGE!before answering your burning Ask EHG questions like who's voicing Reacher's Kitten and which lantern should pop up next? Sarah bumped up local McDonald's Big Mac sales by zero point zero one percent with her tiny commercial jingle can in order. We celebrated those weren't quite the best and worst of the week, and wrapped it all up with Taras TV Dinner Game Time. Stay tuned after this for the Promise Muppet Star Trek bit. We moved here from our discussion of the premiere back Tara 01:06:55 Yes Dave 01:06:58 In the olden days. Next up, Death. It comes from Sweden. Remember. Clip 01:07:06 We're listening. Dave 01:07:09 I am David T. Cole saying And on behalf of Tara Ariano Clip 01:07:12 Enough! I'm so sick and tired of hearing you people talk about food, food, food! Sarah 01:07:14 Thank God. Tara 01:07:18 You thought so? Is it the thing you have to eat before the good part of the meal? Dave 01:07:21 And serial D. Bunting. Sarah 01:07:23 Lettuce cheese, lettuce cheese Dave 01:07:26 Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time right here on Extra Extra Hot Great. Clip 01:07:34 That is cheese cheese shuttleberries, let us uh cheese shigles oh what am I saying? Dave 01:07:44 Alright, so episode five is called Level Five Transporter Accident or something like that. Tara 01:07:48 Yes, it is Sarah 01:07:49 Mm-hmm Dave 01:07:50 This is the Muppet episode that you saw in the trailer. Tara 01:07:53 Well, puppets. I don't think they're of official Muppets, are they? Dave 01:07:55 Oh they're Jim Henson. Tara 01:07:57 Oh they are? Dave 01:07:57 Oh yeah, okay. Yeah, it said Jim Henson's workshop in the credits. Tara 01:07:58 Oh okay. Well then I take it back Dave 01:08:00 Yep. Sarah 01:08:01 Mm-hmm Dave 01:08:02 There's a transporter accident involving Scotty's childhood doll friend. Tara 01:08:06 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:08:07 By the end of the episode, I'm not quite sure if it happened or not, but doesn't really matter. Fox out in the shuttle doing some shit. The puppet gets crossed with the transporter beam and everybody on ship turns into a Muppet. Sure, fine. Tara 01:08:20 Yeah, except Spark Dave 01:08:21 Except Spock, yeah, he's on the shuttle. Tara 01:08:24 Which is very funny. And it also acknowledges like the sort of memey like recast of production where everyone is a Muppet except for one character. Like that is the one character you would want to not be puppetized. Sarah 01:08:36 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:08:36 Right. And then for the rest of the episode, because there's this what I really like enjoyed about this episode is they just didn't turn everybody into a muppet. It was how practically do muppets do things in the Star Trek universe when they are Muppets And these are the kind of like Star Wars versus Star Trek, who would win in a space battle, sort of minutiae arguments that I enjoy seeing once in a while in shows like this. Sarah 01:08:52 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:09:03 So it's much like wearing normal gloves in the winter for humans. They have trouble using touchscreens. Sarah 01:09:09 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:09:10 They can't really feel things the same way. Some of them you know, lose arms and get cut in half and they could just be stitched together. They have no blood or viscera to contend with. Sarah 01:09:17 Mm-hmm. Tara 01:09:18 I love that. Dave 01:09:19 They can be ejected into space and they just have a really great time because they don't need to breathe because they have no lungs. Just Sarah 01:09:25 Yeah. But before they figure that out, there's that moment recalling Pike and Spock sort of touching each other like hands against the window and then he gets airlocked and then he's like, oh wait. Don't have to breathe. And then they hang a light on the fact that they're all floating in space talking to each other. Dave 01:09:43 Yeah. Yeah, the the hand moment was uh also a uh Wrath of Khan little flashback there. Sarah 01:09:48 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:09:49 And then because everybody except Spock is a Muppet, now Spock has to be the entire ship's gopher for the episode because Pike's got a new chair with his iPhone screen and he needs Spock to actually touch it to turn on the lights or whatever. He's gotta go to engineering and plug in a warp core. He's gotta go to emergency bay and physically stitch somebody up after they lose an arm in a transporter accident. A lot of nice little things like that where they're like how Actually would a Muppet exist in the structure universe on a starship with high technology? And I thought that was really great. And then the other great thing about the episode overall is something that Tara mentioned about the voice acting, and I thought that was a really great note. Tara 01:10:32 Oh yeah, that that um you can tell they're doing puppet voice acting. Dave 01:10:36 Yep. Tara 01:10:36 Like their their performances are themselves but also heightened in a very cartoony way that I've it was pleasing to me. Dave 01:10:40 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean usually I guess when you do animation you do the voice first and then you animate to the voice, but I imagine here they did the voices after the production was shot. I mean I'm sure they were on stage till they read it. Tara 01:10:54 Oh. No, I don't I think they probably did the voices first. Dave 01:10:57 You think? Tara 01:10:58 Yes. Dave 01:10:58 Oh I th it was so well mashed up. Alright, alright. Well either way, the results were great. Tara 01:11:02 I think that's just because the yeah, the puppeteers are very good. Dave 01:11:05 In the episode, that happens, a transporter accident, and then the conflict after that is Orion Space Pirates find the Enterprise somebody because they're a Muppet hits the wrong thing on their console and then the Orions can see on the bridge that everybody's a Muppet, so they're gonna come to steal all your stuff. And there's a moment where Pike is on the captain's chair and he's trying to put shields up and he's just flailing as a puppet. Ah! Shields, shields, computer spox, shields Spock, spox, computer and just the way he is doing that voice line was just perfect. Tara 01:11:36 Mm-hmm. Dave 01:11:37 And you can tell how Anson Mountain is heightening it like 30% because now he is a Muppet and he's got the Kermit energy about the whole thing. Tara 01:11:41 Yep. Yes. Yeah Dave 01:11:47 that I just really enjoyed. And I know this is a cheap gimmick episode, but it really worked. Tara 01:11:51 Yeah. Sarah 01:11:51 mhm Tara 01:11:53 Yes. Dave 01:11:53 Like this is the one where it hit on all cylinders, I thought Tara 01:11:55 Yeah, I also like to see them walking like Muppets where they're sort of bouncing and, you know, moving their heads more Dave 01:12:01 When the Orions first attack and there's, you know, that typical camera Dutch angle shift and you know they have little scenes of here and there in the hallways as sparks and explosions from the side of the hull happen. That was tailor made for Muppets. It is so much better. Tara 01:12:17 A hundred percent. Dave 01:12:17 Those scenes are better when there's Muppets flailing around with their mouths open. Ah than it was with real people. Tara 01:12:24 Yeah. Dave 01:12:24 I I really enjoyed that. Tara 01:12:25 So s Dave 01:12:26 And they milked it because they knew after they shot the first one that well we have to put three or four more of these in there because this is really funny. Tara 01:12:31 This is gold. Dave 01:12:32 And it was. Tara 01:12:32 Yeah, Sarah, you you mentioned the design of Pelia with her her uh her hair looking like um curly straw Sarah 01:12:39 Yeah. Tara 01:12:40 What else str struck you about the puppet episode? Sarah 01:12:40 Oh my gosh. Well, first of all, two of the pirates are played by Rachel Harris and Joe Latrullio, who are Tara 01:12:48 Yes. Sarah 01:12:49 sort of muppity in presentation like Letrulio Boyle from B99 Tara 01:12:52 Yeah Sarah 01:12:57 just has this like sort of bug-eyed aspect to him. And then it took me ages to place Rachel Harris, but she does have that like distinctive high voice. that she's playing this like forbidding pirate and like the I mean that the Muppets all have to or the puppets all have to like stack themselves up. in literally an overcoat uh to get anything done. The when they're trying to fight the pirates when they first arrive on the Enterprise, and uh it's like Brrrrr Like, are you even feeling this? And uh Rebecca Robain did a really wonderful job given that she's usually probably the tallest person on the set at any given time. Tara 01:13:38 Mm-hmm. Sarah 01:13:40 that she has her little teeny mupp at arms and is uh running them like a motor. But um I've I did feel like the choice to make it sort of make the subtext text in dialogue, like this allows us to do things that don't make sense. And also that w the minute to praying is like Fine, I will come and help you, but you must promise me no hijinks of any kind. Tara 01:14:04 Yeah. Dave 01:14:04 Yeah. Sarah 01:14:05 And it's like, I'm just happy that that actor is back. Dave 01:14:08 Yeah. Sarah 01:14:08 I loved her to pring. Tara 01:14:09 I agree Sarah 01:14:10 Then naturally she is immediately subjected to the highest jink. There is, and even she is like, the actor must have been so happy to just like really get to let it rip because the whole premise is like, if we're all puppets, then just like enjoy all the potential of that instead of the limitations. But oh my god. The and there was also kind of a um vision quest moment. Vision quest? No. Galaxy quest. That moment where they're like they're talking to each other and the the screen is still on and the aliens in that one are like, you know that's still on, right? We can hear you. Tara 01:14:50 Yeah, Sarah 01:14:51 Yeah, so I always enjoy a nod. Dave 01:14:53 Speaking about the view screen, if I had one note for this episode I thought could improve it, there is a scene early on just after they are turned to puppets and Pike is reporting to his admiral back on Starfleet Command. It would have been so much better if during that whole conversation the admiral was trying to stifle a laugh. Tara 01:15:11 Yes, yes. Sarah 01:15:11 Yes, I had the same note. Dave 01:15:13 Yeah, but that would have been really great. Sarah 01:15:14 Same note. Dave 01:15:15 I'm really surprised they didn't do that because that was a pretty obvious moment. Tara 01:15:19 Yep Dave 01:15:19 For me. Did anybody notice in the conclusion of the Orion battle on the bridge at the end of the episode that the doctor is just repeatedly hammering one of the Orion's balls? Tara 01:15:31 I know. Dave 01:15:32 Yeah. Just like three of them tackling the brute Orion in the background. He's just like wham, wham, wham, wham, just going nuts on his sack. Tara 01:15:42 Well, this is why you get a TV show. So you can do something absolutely idiotic like this and God bless everyone who decided they should bring it to us because it was a delight. Dave 01:15:46 Yep. Yep. Sarah 01:15:51 Mm-hmm. Yep, agree. Clip 01:15:59 This is Extra Hot Great Minis. Today's topic is Weird Questions Lightning Round. Alright, this is an extra credit from about seven people. Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding from uh EHG Assist on Twitter. I just asked, uh give me some really weird questions. Um I got a bunch, so I thought what we'd do is collect them all in one mini. and just do a lightning round with very quick answers. So without further ado, our first question from Ian, and we'll go to Tara first. The TV Hunger Games starts soon. What character would you field? Saul Goodman. Uh-huh. I'm gonna go with Jack Bristow. Bristow? Um, I didn't understand the question, so I said homeland's Brody kids. Sure. Mark? I said Ilana from Broad City because she would win. Yeah, I like that one. Alright, Peter asks, which TV character has the sexiest elbows? Tara. Uh Paul Spectre of the Fall, sorry. Clem from Buffy. Sarah. Michael Vaughn. Yeah. Uh Donna Meagle and Tom Haviford because they jeweled them. In the future. Alright, Will asks, which TV character would you like most to see eat fresh dog poop off the sidewalk a la divine in pink flamingos? Tara. Bevers from Broad City. Dragon Lady from Game of Thrones Nate Fisher Jr. six feet under. Eddie the dog. Oh. I'm asking, what's the one number that feels the wronggiest as a channel? Thirteen. Three. Twenty-four. Forty-two, actually. Hmm. Andy asks, which TV character would benefit most from only being able to say, I'd like to go to the county fair Uh Fitz from Scandal. Yeah. I'm gonna say Presto from the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon of the early 80s. Oh yes. Rust and Cole. Uh-huh. And Bert Cooper from Mad Men. Alright. Rounding us off here in the lightning round Weird Questions. Uh Sean asks, which TV character would you want Hannibal to cook and serve you and what's the recipe called? Uh Michonne from The Walking Dead, and I would call it beef in quotation marks, Borg Michon. Ooh. Yep. Dave. Uh then after that, um he's going to serve the conjoined twin from America uh American Horror Story. And it's a roasted affair called Second Helpings. Thought you would have gone with double happiness. Good. Sarah. Um, mine is fruit de Meredith Gray with a poured wine with us. Mark, take us home. And mine is bagels and sherlocks. Nice. Yep. That was so stupid. That was so stupid. That was fun.